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| ricolin | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 19 15:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
| ricolin | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:00 | |
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| kazsh | Hi team, sorry missed the last video call.. | 15:00 |
| zaneb | o/ | 15:01 |
| ramishra | Hey! | 15:01 |
| kiennt | o/ | 15:01 |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:01 |
| elynn | I missed the video either, too late to saw the email. | 15:01 |
| LanceHaig | o/ | 15:01 |
| ricolin | kazsh elynn , no worry, that's a meetup and people're free to join and out:) | 15:01 |
| ricolin | #topic adding items to agenda | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "adding items to agenda (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:02 | |
| ricolin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-07-19_1500_UTC.29 | 15:02 |
| ricolin | #topic weekly report | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "weekly report (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:04 | |
| ricolin | This week is for non client library release | 15:04 |
| ricolin | And next week will be feature freeze for heat | 15:05 |
| ricolin | so I think we should release heat-agents this week | 15:05 |
| ricolin | which add the py35 support for heat-agents | 15:05 |
| ramishra | there is nothing in the review queue for heat-agents | 15:06 |
| ricolin | yes | 15:06 |
| ricolin | so clean | 15:06 |
| ricolin | I will release it after this meeting | 15:07 |
| ramishra | May be a test patch to see if the py35 job is ok | 15:07 |
| ricolin | And gate report, we suffer two gate broken together, and rabi quick fix it:) | 15:07 |
| ramishra | heat-agents py35 job is added but we did not have anything in the queue to test it;) | 15:08 |
| ricolin | ramishra, I will use the exist one alrough it says no review:) | 15:08 |
| ricolin | ramishra, https://review.openstack.org/485234 done:) | 15:10 |
| ramishra | ok, IMO we should test the job before the release, though I don't expect any issues. | 15:11 |
| ricolin | ramishra, agree:) That code works but would be better to test on gate for check it out | 15:11 |
| ricolin | okay other update | 15:12 |
| ricolin | We might be able to do our meeting in our own irc channel | 15:12 |
| ricolin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485117/ | 15:12 |
| ricolin | once this landed | 15:12 |
| ricolin | That's all I got for update:) | 15:13 |
| ricolin | #topic video meetup feedback | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "video meetup feedback (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:13 | |
| ricolin | Any feedback on the meetup format?:) | 15:13 |
| ricolin | How about the sounds, screen share, or any other quality issue? | 15:15 |
| ramishra | It was quite late for me, else all good:) | 15:15 |
| ricolin | lol | 15:15 |
| zaneb | sound quality was average to poor I thought | 15:15 |
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| zaneb | screen sharing doesn't work on modern OSes | 15:16 |
| zaneb | remote control didn't work | 15:16 |
| zaneb | but it was still cheaper than flying to the PTG, so there's that I guess | 15:16 |
| ricolin | zaneb, I think that's because my fedora | 15:16 |
| zaneb | ricolin: or mine | 15:17 |
| zaneb | I did not disable wayland | 15:17 |
| ricolin | So yesterday was OpenStack Taiwan Day and I have raise this idea to Foundation | 15:17 |
| ramishra | yeah, we can surely use it for PTG if more people want to participate remotely | 15:17 |
| ricolin | Appear they might be able to provide some Hardware if that's what we going to run it | 15:18 |
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| ricolin | Also any other software suggestion here? | 15:18 |
| ramishra | Unless there is objection to using zoom, I used it the first time and it was ok. | 15:18 |
| ricolin | we currently try on Zoom btw | 15:19 |
| kazsh | WebEX ? | 15:19 |
| ricolin | kazsh, that might be on option too | 15:19 |
| kazsh | quality itself is good but need to pay money.. | 15:19 |
| ricolin | kazsh, then no:) | 15:20 |
| kazsh | or some one who has the contract need to be host | 15:20 |
| ricolin | ramishra, Foundation use Zoom as well, so I think we should be good | 15:20 |
| ricolin | kazsh, I don't have one:) | 15:21 |
| ricolin | I will write to Foundation and hope they can give us some good network in PTG:) | 15:22 |
| ricolin | So all of our members can join! | 15:22 |
| kazsh | Nobody join PTG onsite ? | 15:22 |
| ricolin | I will | 15:22 |
| kazsh | ricolin :) | 15:23 |
| ricolin | but not sure others | 15:23 |
| kazsh | well I'm planning | 15:23 |
| ricolin | ramishra, zaneb any settle down? | 15:23 |
| ricolin | kazsh, good! | 15:23 |
| kazsh | but still need to get my boss's approval haha | 15:23 |
| kazsh | ricolin: keep you updated ! | 15:23 |
| ricolin | kazsh, everyone suffer from that actually:) | 15:23 |
| ricolin | kazsh, thx:) | 15:23 |
| ricolin | that's move to next topic:) | 15:24 |
| ricolin | #topic Rolling upgrade and discussion | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rolling upgrade and discussion (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:24 | |
| ricolin | anyone wanna take over?:) | 15:25 |
| kiennt | Hi all. I want to discuss about rolling upgrade. | 15:25 |
| ricolin | :) | 15:25 |
| kiennt | The related patch sets | 15:25 |
| kiennt | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407989 | 15:25 |
| kiennt | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475853/ | 15:25 |
| kiennt | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482048/ | 15:25 |
| kiennt | What's your opinion about our rolling upgrade? Do you think we can merge it in this cycle? :) | 15:26 |
| ricolin | I have leave comment in the guideline one | 15:27 |
| kiennt | ricolin: I just saw it minute ago, will push new patch set | 15:28 |
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| kiennt | thank you | 15:28 |
| ricolin | that one looks good to me, but we still have to add some warning info in doc about what zaneb raised in comment | 15:28 |
| ramishra | zaneb, I saw your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475853, so if we wait for the last engine to finish all processing it has to do (as it's the only one listening on the old vhost) would not it be ok? | 15:28 |
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| zaneb | ramishra: it also has to drain the message queue | 15:29 |
| ramishra | all api's would be migrated to the new vhost and all other engines | 15:29 |
| ramishra | Would not it send to itlself to process those messages? | 15:29 |
| ramishra | we wait for the queues to be drained by themselves? | 15:29 |
| zaneb | in general I don't think our graceful shutdown waits for queues to drain (otherwise it would never shut down) | 15:30 |
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| zaneb | so if we tell the last engine to gracefully shutdown, it will finish what it is working on, which may post more messages to the queue (that only it is listening on), and then shut down leaving them unprocessed | 15:31 |
| ramishra | No I mean, if we wait till all messages in that vhost queues are processed by the last engine? | 15:31 |
| zaneb | ramishra: yes, if we can find a way to do that it'll work | 15:32 |
| ramishra | zaneb: Just wait for sometime? or find a way to check the queues for unprocessed messages? Probably add a note in the documentation. | 15:35 |
| ramishra | regarding the multinode grenade job, I'm not sure how much it would help with the rolling upgrade testing | 15:35 |
| ramishra | I've put my comment there. | 15:35 |
| ramishra | currently with the grenade job we don't run any tests after upgrade | 15:36 |
| ramishra | I've a patch to run api tests before and after upgrade https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460542/, may be we should land that. | 15:37 |
| kiennt | ramishra: I just pushed new patch this morning as you suggested. | 15:38 |
| ramishra | kiennt: OK, I'll check that | 15:38 |
| kiennt | +1 for ramishra's patch. | 15:38 |
| kiennt | api tests will be good. I notice we have heat_upgradetests directory | 15:39 |
| kiennt | but it do nothing. Just empty scripts. | 15:39 |
| kiennt | Can we remove it? | 15:39 |
| ramishra | kiennt: we used to run tempest heat tests earlier after upgrade, which was removed from tempest tree. | 15:40 |
| ramishra | so we don't do any testing after upgrade now | 15:40 |
| ramishra | Anyway, we should also check if adding a multinode job is enough to get the tag;) | 15:42 |
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| ricolin | So we might claim https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460542 as our basic after upgrade test? | 15:43 |
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| ricolin | s/might/may/ | 15:43 |
| ricolin | If yes, then we might get the tag:) | 15:44 |
| kiennt | ramishra: i think its enough. Because another projects that already got the tag, have gate job | 15:44 |
| kiennt | I asked Swift core team, one of them - cschwede told me: | 15:45 |
| kiennt | Swift rolling upgrades are not tested yet in the gate, but Swift supports that since the beginning | 15:45 |
| ramishra | ricolin: for rolling upgrade testing we need nodes in the multinode job to run different releases of heat(upgrade one and leave the other one with older version), which is not the case I think;) and then run the tests. | 15:45 |
| ramishra | But if that's good enough to get the tag, we should go for it:) | 15:47 |
| ricolin | I will ask QA about it:) | 15:47 |
| ricolin | kiennt, anything you wish to discuss now:)? | 15:48 |
| kiennt | ricolin: Great! :) No, that's all. | 15:48 |
| ricolin | kiennt, cool! | 15:49 |
| ricolin | #topic Open discussion | 15:49 |
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| ricolin | Anything would like to raise for discuss?:) | 15:49 |
| kazsh | Suppose not so much people will visit Sydney.. but I submitted a couple of Heat related CFP | 15:49 |
| kazsh | Just a heads-up.. | 15:49 |
| kazsh | Plz cross your fingers :) | 15:50 |
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| ricolin | kazsh, may the force of OpenStack be with you:) | 15:50 |
| kazsh | thank you ricolin, yep hope those will be pass in this time! | 15:51 |
| ricolin | I also got one talk" Advanced Orchestration for Containers Clusters | 15:51 |
| ramishra | zaneb: If you've not seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1705170 | 15:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1705170 in heat "test_stack_update_with_conditions failing with KeyError intermittently" [Undecided,New] | 15:51 |
| zaneb | 23 patches need review before next week to land the stack-definition series | 15:51 |
| ricolin | so if people can help to vote for these two:) | 15:51 |
| kazsh | Sounds really interesting >>" Advanced Orchestration for Containers Clusters | 15:52 |
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| kazsh | How to Make OpenStack Heat Better based on Our One Year Production Journey | 15:52 |
| kazsh | "Get Familar with OpenStack Heat Workshop" | 15:52 |
| kazsh | above two are mine :) | 15:53 |
| ricolin | kazsh, will look at those | 15:53 |
| zaneb | ramishra: hadn't seen that, will post a fix | 15:53 |
| kazsh | ricolin: thanks a lot ! | 15:53 |
| ramishra | zaneb: great:) | 15:53 |
| ricolin | Do hope to land stack-definition | 15:55 |
| ricolin | and get-reality | 15:55 |
| ramishra | let's land as many patches before it's broken again;) | 15:55 |
| ricolin | ramishra, thanks barbican and glance to contribute the fun:) | 15:56 |
| ramishra | I mean the gate is broken again:) | 15:56 |
| ricolin | ramishra, now? | 15:57 |
| ramishra | No.. no.. I meant review and land patches before the gate is broken again... too late for me... | 15:58 |
| ricolin | ramishra, don't scare me! | 15:58 |
| zaneb | lol | 15:58 |
| kazsh | haha | 15:58 |
| kiennt | lol | 15:58 |
| ricolin | Anyway, big goal these two week land goals, land BPs and hope no gate fix:) | 15:59 |
| ricolin | anything else? | 15:59 |
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| ricolin | if no, shall we call the meeting off:) | 16:00 |
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| ricolin | Okay thanks all, and please help on review:) | 16:00 |
| ricolin | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 19 16:00:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-07-19-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-07-19-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-07-19-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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