Tuesday, 2017-07-25

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srwilkers#startmeeting openstack-helm15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 25 15:00:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is srwilkers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm'15:00
korzenhello15:00
xeko/15:00
srwilkershello everyone o/15:00
jayahno/15:00
alraddarlao/15:00
dulek_mobileHi.15:01
srwilkersheres the agenda for today:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2017-07-2515:01
srwilkersfeel free to add to it as we move along15:01
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srwilkers#topic PTG reminder15:01
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srwilkersjust a reminder, we've got an etherpad started to start drafting topics to chat about in denver for those who will be present:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-denver-ptg-topics15:02
srwilkersmyself, lrensing and portdirect will be there for certain15:02
jayahndan from skt will be there, i am not sure I can go or not yet.15:02
srwilkersi hope you can make it jayahn :)15:03
srwilkersbut feel free to add to this etherpad, and any topics you place in there can be included in the weekly meetings.  we dont necessarily need to wait until september to chat about them15:04
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jayahntwo main blockers; my company's funding, my wife's approval. :)15:04
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srwilkersim all too familiar with the second in that list :)15:05
srwilkers#topic Spec directory patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482643/715:05
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srwilkersi cant see who added this topic as they're unnamed in the agenda etherpad15:05
korzencan we gat this merged15:05
korzenget*15:06
srwilkersyeah15:06
korzenI did add it ;)15:06
srwilkersi noticed there was some feedback left by you and dulek_mobile :)15:06
srwilkersill get that addressed, then we can get it moved in15:06
dulek_mobileYeah, don't mind my review too much, we can fix up docs in follow up patch.15:06
korzenI wanted to start work on more specs15:06
srwilkerskorzen: awesome15:06
jayahnway to go korzen15:06
srwilkersduleks mention of the exporter stuff for prometheus would also make it nice to get merged in if he wants to draft one15:07
dulek_mobileYup!15:07
korzenso I have checked why the spec is not rendered15:07
korzenand would be simpler if spec directory would be under doc15:08
korzennot outside of it15:08
korzenbecause we cannot create the rendered list15:08
srwilkersyeah, that makes sense15:08
srwilkersthat'd be an ideal placement i think15:08
korzenin other OpenStack projects, specs are placed in separate repos15:09
korzenlike for example: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs15:09
korzenand then you have: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs/tree/master/specs15:10
korzenwhich is containing the release name15:10
korzenbut for our use, we can take it simple15:10
korzenale hold the specs inside docs15:11
srwilkersyeah, i think that'd be a better fit for now15:11
srwilkersas soon as we wrap up today, ill get it moved and link for reviews15:11
korzenok, I guess we are ok15:12
srwilkers #topic Neutron multiple SDN bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-helm/+spec/neutron-multiple-sdns15:12
korzenthat is another one from me ;)15:12
srwilkersawesome :) floors yours15:13
korzenso I have created the bp for multiple SDN work15:13
korzenI have updated portdirect's patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48122515:14
korzenwhich I like very much15:14
korzenI am currently wrapping up the idea in a spec15:14
jayahnkorzen: awesome15:14
korzenso that we can agree on how to continue work with multiple SDN15:14
srwilkersokay, cool15:15
korzenwhen we settle down the spec and above patch, we can continue with my Linuxbridge implementation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46629315:15
korzenalso SONA work is related15:16
korzenwhich can benefit from decomposable neutron chart15:16
jayahntrue.15:16
korzenAs I commented in SONA review15:17
korzenmost stuff is reusable from neutron chart15:17
jayahnwe saw that, and really appreciate your effort.15:17
korzenI'm planning to work on calico SDN as an example of how multiple SDNs can fit into OSH15:18
korzenjayahn, yes, thanks for the patch of SONA it really helped to see what are requires to base neutron chart15:19
korzenrequirements*15:19
korzenany questions?15:20
jayahnnot for now.15:21
srwilkersnot from me -- im looking forward to seeing where this all goes :)15:21
korzenok, so we can proceed :)15:21
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srwilkers#topic opencontrail helm chart15:21
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srwilkersblueprint referenced is here:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-helm/+spec/opencontrail-helm-chart15:21
srwilkersv1k0d3n: i think this was yours.  floors yours :)15:22
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korzenis he online?15:23
srwilkersit doesnt appear so15:23
srwilkerswe can check back at the end to see if he's here15:23
srwilkers#topic chart orchestration15:24
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srwilkersjayahn: floors yours :)15:24
jayahnthis is just our note for chart orchestration requirements.15:24
jayahnat skt, we have tried landscaper, but not happy with it. now, we are again exploring this space.15:24
jayahnat&t armada is also an important activity for openstack-helm.15:25
jayahnthus, anyone who are interested in this discussion, pls put your idea/ story / requirements in etherpad.15:25
jayahnhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-chart-orchestration-discussion15:25
jayahnthat is all from me.15:26
jayahnwe ca surely discuss during ptg event15:27
srwilkersyeah, i see that being a big part of the discussion there15:27
srwilkerswould be awesome to get more feedback before then :)15:27
korzenI will take a loot15:28
korzenlook*15:28
jayahnfrom our experience, this is not just "how to deploy" problem, it will affects how operator operate openstack and how developers use this tool at development phase.15:28
jayahnand how CI will leverage this tool as well.15:29
jayahnso, we tends to go deep when we discuss this topic inside skt. ;)15:29
jayahnany further question?15:30
srwilkersnot from me :)15:30
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srwilkersreached out to v1k0d3n -- he's going to hop online15:31
v1k0d3nok15:31
v1k0d3nsorry...here now15:31
srwilkers#topc opencontrail helm chart15:31
srwilkers#topic opencontrail helm chart15:32
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v1k0d3nso was just wondering if there was a status on the opencontrail, or if there was any need for help.15:32
srwilkerswords are hard today -- floors yours :)15:32
srwilkersv1k0d3n: i haven't heard any updates on the status here.  might be something to ping portdirect about in openstack-helm later today15:32
srwilkersare there acceptable images for opencontrail?  i haven't dug deep enough to know for certain15:33
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srwilkersill put this on next week's meeting agenda and follow up with madhukar about the blueprint he filed15:36
srwilkersany other questions?15:36
v1k0d3nok. i guess nobody can speak to this.15:37
v1k0d3nthat works.15:37
v1k0d3nthanks man15:37
srwilkersno problem :)15:37
srwilkers#topic open discussion15:37
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srwilkersany other topics/questions/concerns anyone would like to chat about?  we've got about 20 minutes left15:37
dulek_mobileMy usual fernet review beg? :) I would love to close that topic.15:38
srwilkersdulek_mobile: i'd really like to get it closed too15:39
dulek_mobile:)15:39
srwilkersill try to rally everyone today and get consensus here15:39
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korzenany plans to have a release schedule for OSH?15:40
dulek_mobileGreat, thank you!15:40
jayahnthat would be really good discussion on release stuff. i see that is in ptg agenda.15:41
srwilkersdulek_mobile: no problem :)15:41
v1k0d3nyes....omg please yes releases15:41
srwilkersjayahn: korzen: yeah, that'd be best suited for PTG i think15:41
srwilkersi think that's a perfect topic15:41
dulek_mobileSo no releases till September?15:42
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srwilkersi dont think we're too far off from having a chat about targeting a time line15:43
srwilkerspersonally, id like to see the operational bits, like LMA, get in a better spot first.  the neutron backend stuff will help quite a bit as well15:44
dulek_mobileOkay, got you.15:45
korzenyes, it would be good to see some list what should be be completed to call it a release readyness15:45
v1k0d3nwe should have some potential dates, and communicate these15:45
jayahnare there any plan to include "openatack version" in osh release policy?15:45
v1k0d3ngood question15:46
jayahnbecause of differences on various stuff, it will be difficult to make a "generalized" chart to cover multiple versions of openstack, or is it possible?15:46
srwilkerswe haven't broached that topic yet.  for now, we've just been focused on one version to keep development moving along15:47
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srwilkersbut it's defiintely something that will need to be considered further down the road15:47
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jayahni was just curious, since the upstream release policy probably affects how we do internal release in our ci pipeline, including versioning.. :)15:48
jayahnnot high priority.15:49
srwilkersyeah, thats a good point.  more reason to have this chat in person at the PTG :)15:49
jayahnyeap, agreed.15:50
v1k0d3nyeah great topic for PTG.15:50
srwilkersany other topics?15:51
v1k0d3nit would minimize some of the confusion users would have on what works, what does, etc. plus it would give the team breathing room, because they can say use version xyz. less fire drills.15:51
v1k0d3nno more from me.15:51
jayahnno more from me15:51
korzenI'm good15:51
srwilkersyeah v1k0d3n, fair point :)15:52
srwilkersawesome.  ill go ahead and close out the meeting then.  we can continue any further discussion in openstack-helm15:52
srwilkersgood chat as always :)15:52
srwilkers#endmeeting15:52
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korzenthanks15:52
jayahnthanks15:53
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