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| srwilkers | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 1 15:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is srwilkers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| korzen | hello | 15:00 |
| srwilkers | hello everyone o/ | 15:00 |
| alraddarla | o/ | 15:00 |
| srwilkers | got the link out late -- here's the etherpad for today. let's take about 5 minutes and add any agenda items we'd like to discuss today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2017-08-01 | 15:00 |
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| lrensing | o/ | 15:01 |
| jayahn | o/ | 15:01 |
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| srwilkers | nice :) let's get to it then | 15:05 |
| srwilkers | #topic release schedule | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release schedule (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
| srwilkers | v1k0d3n: floors yours | 15:05 |
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| srwilkers | portdirect: ill defer to you since i've seen you've left comments here | 15:07 |
| v1k0d3n | hey all o/ | 15:07 |
| srwilkers | hey dude :) | 15:07 |
| srwilkers | floors yours | 15:07 |
| v1k0d3n | crazy morning, sorry for being late. | 15:07 |
| portdirect | oh - its started -lol | 15:07 |
| v1k0d3n | so i see that this is a topic at PTG too... | 15:07 |
| v1k0d3n | but can we at least get the ball rolling a bit on RC releases? | 15:08 |
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| portdirect | I think we need to define what we mean by a release | 15:08 |
| portdirect | and what that entails | 15:08 |
| portdirect | from my perspective there are two criteria: | 15:08 |
| portdirect | 1) we work :D | 15:08 |
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| v1k0d3n | it would help first with point in time releases, and it would also help with getting vendors involved...because they can reliably say "use this rc release with our code". contrail is a good example of this, who is currently using tiller v2.4.2. as we keep moving forward...they are left behind, and this can be frustrating. | 15:09 |
| portdirect | 2) we are locking in a version of our format/layout of charts | 15:09 |
| portdirect | v1k0d3n: they are using tiller 2.5 on their master | 15:09 |
| portdirect | i"ll push them to update their public code | 15:10 |
| v1k0d3n | yes...working is good. i think identifying _what_ works is good enough for RC releases though. and of course documenting what we know _doesn't_ work. | 15:10 |
| v1k0d3n | would that be ok? | 15:10 |
| v1k0d3n | i thought i was using master when attempting to package. i will check again. | 15:10 |
| v1k0d3n | i am starting to work with them here as well. also folks on the ODL side. | 15:11 |
| v1k0d3n | thanks for the extra push portdirect :) | 15:11 |
| portdirect | nice - we have a bm lab that we are working with juniper here | 15:11 |
| v1k0d3n | but would RC releases be acceptable for the team? | 15:11 |
| v1k0d3n | under the conditions that we document what does/doesn't work for that RC? | 15:12 |
| portdirect | I'd be more comfortble defining the criteria for a release before pushing for one | 15:12 |
| portdirect | can we make this a topic at ptg | 15:12 |
| jayahn | +1 on portdirect | 15:12 |
| srwilkers | there are some things that need tied up before i think setting releases is appropriate | 15:12 |
| v1k0d3n | that works too. but to be fair, we've had a few releases that were mostly working at one point...and ever really branched/tagged anything. it would be nice to capture those when we hit a milestone. | 15:12 |
| portdirect | currently master always works :D | 15:13 |
| v1k0d3n | with conditions ;) | 15:13 |
| jayahn | should make that way. :D | 15:13 |
| jayahn | i also would like to discuss what "dependencies" we would like to present with our release/tag policy. for exmpale, openstack version info. | 15:14 |
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| portdirect | if you were abloe to start working n the code again v1k0d3n it would be awesome - would help us get there quicker | 15:14 |
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| portdirect | *able | 15:14 |
| v1k0d3n | as a user explores openstack-helm...there's no real snapshot view of what works and what doesn't. | 15:14 |
| v1k0d3n | i am trying portdirect. changing jobs is pretty....disruptive. :) | 15:15 |
| v1k0d3n | so, i guess no on the RC releases is what i'm hearing. | 15:15 |
| v1k0d3n | which is fine...but how do we proceed. what is expected or what is the schedule, besides AT&T's 1710 and 1802? | 15:15 |
| srwilkers | i think it'd be appropriate to discuss this more in detail during the PTG -- i think timeboxing that decision to part of a weekly meeting is difficult | 15:15 |
| korzen | in order to reliably release anything, the gates and functional tests should be improved | 15:16 |
| korzen | to make sure that ceph, ingress or any OpenStack project is working correctly | 15:16 |
| v1k0d3n | ok, well i guess it will have to wait until PTG. | 15:17 |
| srwilkers | any other points of discussion here? | 15:18 |
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| srwilkers | #topic list of reviews | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "list of reviews (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:19 | |
| srwilkers | korzen: floors yours to start :) | 15:19 |
| korzen | ok, so I like I have told you last meeting | 15:20 |
| korzen | I have prepared the specs for the Neutron multi-SDN approach | 15:20 |
| korzen | I would like to have some review there | 15:20 |
| korzen | if everybody is on the same page | 15:21 |
| srwilkers | korzen: glanced at it this morning. looking good :) | 15:21 |
| korzen | there are general approach captured: | 15:21 |
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| korzen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487427/1 spec: Neutron multiple SDNs design | 15:21 |
| korzen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489580/2 spec: Add linux bridge to Neutron chart | 15:21 |
| korzen | as well as detailed implementation: | 15:22 |
| korzen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481225 Neutron: Enable decomposition of chart into descrete manifests | 15:22 |
| korzen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466293/14 Neutron: add linuxbridge daemonset and config script | 15:22 |
| korzen | for those specs | 15:22 |
| korzen | so you can take a look at general idea | 15:22 |
| korzen | as well as the implementation details | 15:22 |
| portdirect | I need to review the working of the 1st two - but am totally happy with the direction. | 15:22 |
| portdirect | we should get infra to provide another three node gate for lb | 15:23 |
| portdirect | and reture the two node i think | 15:23 |
| portdirect | *retire | 15:23 |
| srwilkers | yeah, two node can go as far as im concerned | 15:23 |
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| korzen | thanks jayahn for updating the SONA chart | 15:23 |
| korzen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489500/ SONA | 15:23 |
| korzen | in that link, you can see how external SDN integration would look like | 15:24 |
| jayahn | not me, it is siri. :) | 15:24 |
| portdirect | ^^ lets get that in the gate too :) | 15:24 |
| portdirect | as without its hard for many people to review | 15:24 |
| korzen | yes | 15:25 |
| srwilkers | +1 | 15:25 |
| jayahn | any thing we need to follow up to do "lets get that in the gate too"? | 15:25 |
| korzen | and the docs | 15:25 |
| korzen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470326 | 15:25 |
| korzen | docs: Neutron multiple SDN approach design | 15:25 |
| portdirect | jayahn: i'll ask for a three node for osh infra as well | 15:26 |
| korzen | this is my old documentation around | 15:26 |
| korzen | I would need to rewrite it | 15:26 |
| korzen | and it should contain the overall information about networking inside OSH | 15:27 |
| portdirect | korzen: if you could that would be awesome - thanks for really moving this forward | 15:27 |
| srwilkers | korzen: nice | 15:28 |
| korzen | ok, I guess I'm doen here | 15:28 |
| korzen | done* | 15:28 |
| korzen | really hoping for the review | 15:28 |
| korzen | :) | 15:28 |
| srwilkers | any other review related topics from anyone? | 15:29 |
| korzen | I do not see dulek around, but his fernet tokens? | 15:29 |
| korzen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463730/ | 15:30 |
| korzen | Add support for Keystone's fernet tokens | 15:30 |
| portdirect | I kinda dropped the ball there | 15:31 |
| portdirect | really want it | 15:32 |
| portdirect | but also want it in the gate properly | 15:32 |
| portdirect | if dulek could add support and the docs for cron jobs then we should merge asap | 15:32 |
| portdirect | but I'll try to find a window to complete my ps there | 15:32 |
| korzen | ok | 15:32 |
| portdirect | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484958/ | 15:33 |
| portdirect | though if anyone wanted to take that over I'd be greatful :) | 15:33 |
| srwilkers | #topic open discussion | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:35 | |
| srwilkers | any other topics not listed to cover? | 15:35 |
| jayahn | not from me | 15:36 |
| jayahn | ah. | 15:36 |
| jayahn | one question about liveness check | 15:37 |
| jayahn | what is the current status on implementing liveness check? | 15:37 |
| jayahn | for each service? i was following up, then it seems like ended with "we need operator feedback on this". correct? | 15:38 |
| srwilkers | i think the takeaway was that we'd tie that in to some of the prometheus work that was targeted | 15:39 |
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| srwilkers | anything else? | 15:42 |
| korzen | we agreed that the liveness should be reproted via log analyzing | 15:43 |
| korzen | thus the work on LMA | 15:44 |
| srwilkers | yep. there's been some feedback left on the LMA spec in flight. I'll get that updated accordingly today | 15:44 |
| jayahn | setting up liveness probe on each pod, that should be reported via log analyzing? | 15:44 |
| korzen | we have the first idea that we should check DB connection, rabbitmq | 15:45 |
| korzen | and service reporting in the server, like nova-manage service list | 15:45 |
| korzen | as liveness check | 15:46 |
| korzen | but then the conclusion was, if service is not able to connect to the DB/rabbit/nova api - can we restart the pod and expect to fix the situation? | 15:46 |
| korzen | so second idea is to report that some service has issues as alarms | 15:47 |
| jayahn | okay, i got the idea on how discussion went. :) I will also think about this more. | 15:48 |
| portdirect | yeah its a tricky one | 15:48 |
| srwilkers | yeah, feedback would be awesome. :) can adjust as necessary | 15:48 |
| jayahn | can be very service / case specific. | 15:48 |
| portdirect | personally I'm very worried about restarting the pod if a dep goes down | 15:49 |
| portdirect | as I have nightmares of a situation cascading out of control | 15:49 |
| lrensing | ++ portdirect | 15:49 |
| portdirect | in the event of a small outage of say rabbitmq | 15:49 |
| lrensing | domino effect | 15:49 |
| korzen | true | 15:49 |
| jayahn | yeah, true. | 15:50 |
| korzen | so we are currently working on LMA infra | 15:51 |
| korzen | prometheus, fluentd | 15:51 |
| korzen | to be able to support such use-case | 15:51 |
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| jayahn | okay, we can end this one now, only 7min left. obviously, this requires more thinking. | 15:54 |
| srwilkers | sounds good :) | 15:54 |
| srwilkers | ill go ahead and close out the meeting. we can carry over any remaining conversation to openstack-helm. see you there :) | 15:55 |
| srwilkers | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 1 15:55:29 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-08-01-15.00.html | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-08-01-15.00.txt | 15:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-08-01-15.00.log.html | 15:55 |
| korzen | thanks, bye | 15:55 |
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