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mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:04 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 21 15:04:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:04 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:04 |
srwilkers | o/ | 15:05 |
lamt | \o | 15:06 |
mattmceuen | #topic rollcall | 15:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:06 | |
srwilkers | o/ | 15:06 |
lamt | \o | 15:06 |
mattmceuen | Sorry for the late start guys, US time change took my calendar by surprise :) | 15:06 |
mattmceuen | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2017-11-21 | 15:06 |
portdirect | \o\ | 15:06 |
mattmceuen | ^agenda -- please go ahead and add anything you'd like to discuss today! | 15:06 |
mattmceuen | also a holiday week in the US, so we may be missing a few familiar faces | 15:10 |
mattmceuen | #topic Summit highlights for OpenStack-Helm | 15:11 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Summit highlights for OpenStack-Helm (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:11 | |
mattmceuen | Alright -- so a few notes we should share about the summit of interest to the OSH crew | 15:11 |
mattmceuen | First, we sure did get Keynote mention, with some live demo goodness | 15:12 |
mattmceuen | #action mattmceuen will get links into the meeting notes | 15:12 |
mattmceuen | There were several talks either directly or tangentially related to OSH | 15:13 |
portdirect | overall feedback was very +ve i felt | 15:13 |
jayahn | o/ sorry, late. | 15:13 |
mattmceuen | portdirect, alanmeadows, & bommen gave a talk on OSH, which was really my favorite talk from the summit period | 15:14 |
portdirect | I spoke to a couple of folks who are planning on moving their production workloads to osh | 15:14 |
mattmceuen | Definitely recommend that one | 15:14 |
mattmceuen | that's fantastic. | 15:14 |
jayahn | I was able to talk with sprint, orange, nec at lcoo working group meeting. they were so positive on osh. | 15:15 |
portdirect | thats awesome jayahn - we should start a support company ;) | 15:16 |
jayahn | and, skt had a presentation on kubespray and openstack-helm. :) | 15:16 |
* jayahn that is my big plan b. | 15:16 | |
srwilkers | :D | 15:16 |
mattmceuen | Hey now don't anyone stop developing :) | 15:16 |
mattmceuen | We need something to be supported after all! | 15:17 |
mattmceuen | We also had a great OSH workshop session | 15:17 |
jayahn | that is why it is plan b. we need plan a >> make everyone use osh. | 15:17 |
jayahn | workshop was fantastic. | 15:17 |
mattmceuen | me agrees with plan a 100% :) | 15:18 |
portdirect | plan c - sit by the pool drinking tequila | 15:18 |
mattmceuen | I feel like these plans area actually sequential | 15:18 |
mattmceuen | Can't spell today, with this meeting a whole hour earlier | 15:18 |
portdirect | the workshop was great for a few reasons | 15:18 |
portdirect | 1) it tested out the new dev env I've been working on which deployed 150 machines with a single provision failure | 15:19 |
portdirect | 2) it then deployed osh about ~125 times on top of that without a single failure | 15:19 |
portdirect | 3) there were cat pictures | 15:19 |
mattmceuen | Does it count as the cat pic going viral if we are copying it via automation? | 15:20 |
portdirect | https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Cute-Cat.jpg | 15:20 |
mattmceuen | Really great job on all the prep work portdirect | 15:20 |
portdirect | I was wondering - should we rework the dev env docs to use a version of the scripts we developed for this? | 15:21 |
mattmceuen | For anyone who'd like to play along at home: https://github.com/portdirect/sydney-workshop | 15:21 |
mattmceuen | I think so | 15:21 |
srwilkers | portdirect: yes | 15:22 |
mattmceuen | Let's get reuse out of this - made for a very educational experience, and goes a few steps farther than the dev docs to date | 15:22 |
mattmceuen | e.g. cat picture | 15:22 |
portdirect | cool - I can try to get that going this week - and I also need to document the `infra` work thats been ging on too | 15:22 |
lamt | portdirect I started a ps for the doc work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521370/ - will submit the ps to remove the legacy multinode gate from infra today | 15:23 |
mattmceuen | awesome - if there's anything any new OSH developers can do to help with that work, portdirect, might be a good opportunity for them | 15:24 |
portdirect | lamt: thats awesome! | 15:24 |
mattmceuen | nice, thanks lamt! | 15:25 |
portdirect | mattmceuen: agreed - getting new folks writing the docs is awesome - they ask the right questions! | 15:25 |
mattmceuen | Speaking of which - we had an OSH project onboarding session as well :) | 15:25 |
mattmceuen | at the summit. Went quite well. | 15:25 |
mattmceuen | Do we happen to have any new folks interested in OSH joining us today? If so, welcome! | 15:26 |
v1k0d3n | o/ sorry late | 15:27 |
mattmceuen | hey v2k0d3n no worries, you're in good company! | 15:27 |
mattmceuen | v1k0d3n | 15:27 |
mattmceuen | didn't mean to upgrade you | 15:27 |
* srwilkers resists the urge to make a joke | 15:28 | |
portdirect | hes got laser vision now | 15:28 |
* jayahn ditto with srwilkers | 15:28 | |
* portdirect failed | 15:28 | |
srwilkers | and you didnt even fail fast | 15:29 |
srwilkers | you're so outdated | 15:29 |
portdirect | i did shift left | 15:29 |
mattmceuen | that's shift-tab, right? | 15:29 |
mattmceuen | #topic V3 Gate/Dev env in infra is done - now we just need docs | 15:29 |
*** openstack changes topic to "V3 Gate/Dev env in infra is done - now we just need docs (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:29 | |
mattmceuen | I will get portdirect back on topic by giving him the stick | 15:29 |
* portdirect ohhh errr | 15:30 | |
portdirect | so the gate in infra is pretty solid now i hope | 15:30 |
portdirect | lamt and some others are using it for local dev as well | 15:30 |
portdirect | it does away with the old kubeadm-aio and its continerised kubelet and replaces it with a pretty (I hope) solid set of ansible roles | 15:31 |
portdirect | that sets up a k8s cluster with some services deployed as charts - dns, tiller etc | 15:31 |
portdirect | tin has been working on the docs here: | 15:32 |
portdirect | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521895/ | 15:32 |
portdirect | which so how to use the makefile to simply setup a dev env | 15:32 |
portdirect | we have also been working on pulling this into osh itself | 15:33 |
portdirect | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516450/ | 15:33 |
srwilkers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521370/1 is the right doc link | 15:33 |
portdirect | whoops | 15:33 |
portdirect | cheers srwilkers | 15:33 |
portdirect | the work to use this in osh is close - we just need to publish logs | 15:33 |
mattmceuen | fantastic | 15:34 |
portdirect | and then can start to retire the oiginal gate scripts i hope | 15:34 |
lamt | \o/ | 15:34 |
portdirect | the primary advantage the new work brings is that we can use an `armada` liek format to instantiate charts - and test upgrades | 15:34 |
* portdirect eg: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm-infra/blob/master/tools/gate/chart-deploys/default.yaml | 15:35 | |
portdirect | meaning we can test many more combos that we did previously - and also address some big gaps we had | 15:35 |
portdirect | 1) upgrade testing | 15:35 |
portdirect | 2) node/cluster reboot | 15:36 |
mattmceuen | So right now, the new OSH gate scripts delegate to the (updated) existing setup_gate.sh. Are you saying that script would be retired, or just the old invocation of that script? | 15:36 |
mattmceuen | (by right now, I mean right now in your and lamt's new PS) | 15:36 |
portdirect | when possible the old scripts would be totally retired | 15:36 |
portdirect | but I think we need to move there gradually | 15:37 |
mattmceuen | gotcha. I like the migration path. | 15:37 |
portdirect | ++ | 15:37 |
portdirect | this work also needs to go hand in hand with updating the docs | 15:37 |
portdirect | so that we smoothy retire the original kubeadm-aio | 15:38 |
portdirect | it would be good to get an idea of how many people are using that outside of att at present | 15:38 |
portdirect | are you folks jayahn ? v1k0d3n ? | 15:38 |
v1k0d3n | using what, armada or kubeadm-aio? | 15:39 |
v1k0d3n | sorry, was distracted. | 15:39 |
* v1k0d3n reads back | 15:39 | |
portdirect | the current kubeadm-aio | 15:39 |
v1k0d3n | haven't touched it in a while. | 15:40 |
jayahn | we are not using the current kubeadm-aio | 15:40 |
portdirect | nice - what are you guys using? bootkube v1k0d3n ? | 15:40 |
v1k0d3n | bootkube projects only. although will look at kubeadm self-hosted at some point...but it's a mess in it's current state. | 15:40 |
v1k0d3n | bootkube as a base. starting a custom deployment projects around self-hosted concepts. | 15:41 |
jayahn | we are all kubespray here in skt | 15:41 |
portdirect | awesome | 15:41 |
portdirect | one of the things we added with the new work was a `make dev-deploy charts` | 15:42 |
portdirect | that should work with any k8s env | 15:42 |
jayahn | although we have some plan to get serious with osh gate tools. | 15:42 |
portdirect | w00t :) | 15:42 |
jayahn | okay. good to know. :) | 15:42 |
mattmceuen | #topic default docker version | 15:43 |
*** openstack changes topic to "default docker version (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:43 | |
mattmceuen | all you srwilkers | 15:43 |
srwilkers | just wanted to point out that the default docker version for ubuntu is 1.13, which caused some issues with k8s <1.8 if i recall. portdirect mentioned a patchset that lamt has in flight for using whats in the gates as the version we pin to, which makes this a nonissue i think | 15:44 |
srwilkers | that's all really | 15:44 |
mattmceuen | Excellent. Here's the RFC so y'all can C: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521233/ | 15:44 |
srwilkers | was going to mention it in the docs, but the docs rework already covers it | 15:45 |
mattmceuen | #topic reviews needed | 15:45 |
*** openstack changes topic to "reviews needed (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:45 | |
mattmceuen | So - the summit got us a bit behind | 15:45 |
mattmceuen | also some vacation, and we're entering the holiday season for some of us | 15:45 |
srwilkers | just in time for the holidays to let us play catch up :) | 15:46 |
v1k0d3n | nice work portdirect on keeping the kube env agnostic. | 15:46 |
mattmceuen | Yeah, some folks will probably do more reviews over the holidays rather than less :-D | 15:46 |
* srwilkers is guilty | 15:46 | |
mattmceuen | But we def need a concerted effort to catch up & clean up our backlog of WIP | 15:46 |
mattmceuen | In the meantime: any PS that need eyes sooner than later, or are stuck and anyone present would like to call out? | 15:47 |
mattmceuen | As mentioned, tlams RFC: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521233/ | 15:47 |
srwilkers | im going to review the fluent-logging stuff after this -- vacation took me away, and the hotel wifi was a bit dodgy | 15:47 |
srwilkers | but think that's just a matter of getting the rbac stuff tied in | 15:47 |
mattmceuen | And to get the gate work completed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521895/ | 15:48 |
jayahn | I think I am officially good at forking cores. | 15:48 |
jayahn | :) | 15:48 |
srwilkers | i've got a few changes to make to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517645/, then will be ready for a proper review | 15:48 |
jayahn | srwilkers: fluent-logging stuff is okay, but we are having some probleme with fluent-bit - fluentd version matching. | 15:48 |
srwilkers | hmm | 15:49 |
jayahn | we will probably need to be away from kolla-image, and using official fluent images. | 15:49 |
srwilkers | jayahn: right. that's been an issue with their non-openstack images for awhile | 15:49 |
jayahn | chart itself is okay and working :) | 15:49 |
srwilkers | ES was the same way I think | 15:49 |
portdirect | a lot of the outstanding reviews are to do with opencontrail - mattmceuen can we invite them to the next meeting to ensure we get a good strategy in place | 15:50 |
mattmceuen | OH | 15:50 |
portdirect | would a be good tie in to our first ci/cd focused meeting | 15:50 |
srwilkers | ++ | 15:50 |
jayahn | ++ | 15:50 |
v1k0d3n | ++ | 15:51 |
mattmceuen | portdirect: yep | 15:51 |
v1k0d3n | and this is something we would really like to be included in | 15:51 |
mattmceuen | cool beans v1k0d3n will do | 15:51 |
v1k0d3n | we're doing a lot of work around CI/CD, although we're taking a bit of a different approach. and on the opencontrail bits...we're trying really hard to work with juniper on this as well. | 15:52 |
mattmceuen | #topic open discussion | 15:52 |
*** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:52 | |
jayahn | does anyone go to kubecon? | 15:52 |
v1k0d3n | i know some discussions are happening with skt and att on ci, but if there are meetings that could be open...it would really help us as well. | 15:52 |
srwilkers | jayahn: yeah, ill be there | 15:52 |
v1k0d3n | yes, we have 3 coming to kubecon. | 15:53 |
srwilkers | v1k0d3n: as far as im aware, the meetings mentioned would be part of the OSH community meeting | 15:53 |
v1k0d3n | ah, actually 4 coming. | 15:53 |
srwilkers | unless im mistaken? | 15:53 |
mattmceuen | v1k0d3n - def take a watch of the summit presentation I mentioned above -- that had some great OpenContrail live demoing | 15:53 |
v1k0d3n | yeah saw that mattmceuen | 15:53 |
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jayahn | i happen to meet with some deis related folks here in asia area. it seems like we are probably having a meeting with them at kubecon. | 15:53 |
v1k0d3n | beyond demo...working together with juniper would help | 15:53 |
v1k0d3n | we're getting a sales wall | 15:53 |
srwilkers | jayahn: does this mean i get to drink with you? in austin? | 15:54 |
jayahn | anyone will be welcome to join that meeting, once it is confirmed | 15:54 |
v1k0d3n | and we would like to break through that. meaning, they don't even know what work is occurring in this community, and are recommending things that don't really fit. | 15:54 |
jayahn | noep, i cannot go to Austin this time. sadly.. | 15:54 |
portdirect | v1k0d3n: we'll we are beynd that, they are really starting to do some cool things now | 15:54 |
srwilkers | jayahn: :( | 15:54 |
jayahn | one of my team will be there. | 15:54 |
* srwilkers will be sure to send jayahn tons of drinking photos with the crocodiles he never knew existed in austin | 15:54 | |
v1k0d3n | and srwilkers on the ci parts...not sure they're happening here. maybe some...maybe some nit? | 15:54 |
portdirect | v1k0d3n: they are all happening in the open | 15:55 |
* jayahn crocodiles.. damn i was away from Austin too long | 15:55 | |
portdirect | andreys ps's are really worth a look ;) | 15:55 |
v1k0d3n | oh...i thought there was mention of a followup meeting with CI in denver that i never heard anything else on. | 15:56 |
v1k0d3n | ok...well, i guess i'll just look out for them. nevermind then :) | 15:56 |
jayahn | srwilkers: I will make sure my colleague contacts you for a drink. | 15:56 |
srwilkers | jayahn: that would be great :) | 15:57 |
portdirect | jayahn: mattmceuen and i will be in austing as well ;) | 15:57 |
mattmceuen | looking forward to seeing you @ kubecon v1k0d3n! | 15:57 |
jayahn | v1k0d3n: that has not been happen. there were only saying, not happening. :) | 15:57 |
jayahn | this ci focused meeting will be the first one | 15:57 |
jayahn | austing.. good word | 15:57 |
v1k0d3n | ah that works. didn't really hear see anything else on it, so just figured we missed it. | 15:57 |
v1k0d3n | yeah mattmceuen see you there too. | 15:58 |
mattmceuen | it's a verb now! "Let's go austing the heck out of kubecon" | 15:58 |
v1k0d3n | larry will be there as well. | 15:58 |
portdirect | yup 27th for the 1st ci/cd meeting | 15:58 |
mattmceuen | awesome | 15:58 |
mattmceuen | 2 minute warning all | 15:58 |
mattmceuen | anything else? | 15:58 |
mattmceuen | sounds good - thanks everyone, have a great Thanksgiving! | 15:59 |
mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:59 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 21 15:59:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-11-21-15.04.html | 15:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-11-21-15.04.txt | 15:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-11-21-15.04.log.html | 15:59 |
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