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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 23 15:01:26 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:01 |
| gmmaha | o/ | 15:01 |
| icolwell | o/ | 15:02 |
| powerds0111 | o/ | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | Good morning/evening! | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | Here's our agenda for today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-01-23 | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Revisit onboarding ideas | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Revisit onboarding ideas (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:03 | |
| mattmceuen | So a couple weeks ago, we started an etherpad with some ideas on how to accelerate new team members' grokking of both OSH as well as the technologies it uses | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osh-onboarding-brainstorming | 15:04 |
| portdirect | o/ | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks for your ideas folks - there are a number of good things in there and I think we can treat this like a living document and continue to implement them one or two at a time | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | One I'd like to start with, which got a lot of positive feedback, is Office Hours | 15:04 |
| portdirect | ++ | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4UPK78jc/ | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | How would you all refine this? | 15:05 |
| portdirect | I mean the /me fu is a bit much | 15:06 |
| portdirect | but other than that :) | 15:06 |
| roman_g | o/ | 15:06 |
| portdirect | I think the wiki is pretty much /dev/null tbh | 15:06 |
| srwilkers | i think the only bit i'd add is the requirement you wear a blazer with elbow patches while you do it | 15:06 |
| portdirect | but announcing it in irc much like we do the meeting would be good | 15:07 |
| srwilkers | ++ | 15:07 |
| lamt` | am late but o/ | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | srwilkers I'll bring said blazer to our STL office, everyone else must fend for themselves | 15:08 |
| srwilkers | byob -- bring your own..blazer | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | portdirect I like putting it in the wiki because folks might find it via google, and just as importantly, it's more of a commitment from the office hour-er | 15:09 |
| portdirect | sure - I'm not saying dont do it - but we should advertise it more than that ;) | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | I'm going to try to find an hour on my outlook calendar and treat it like a first-class citizen of my schedule. Is that what you guys had in mind, or something more flexible? | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | gotcha -- agree! | 15:09 |
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| mattmceuen | Since the proposal would be for this to be a obligatory expectation of any core, and optional for anyone else -- any cores object to committing to this? | 15:11 |
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| portdirect | so would we have two - to account for tz diffs? | 15:12 |
| portdirect | if/when we require that | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | my thought is -- if each office hour-er picks a recurring, dependable time that works for them, then they could be all over the place. I.e. no set time for the "whole team", but rather some good coverage. | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | were you thinking a combined office hour for everyone? | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | (or two) | 15:13 |
| portdirect | i though thats what this was - but your propsal makes sense | 15:13 |
| portdirect | wfm | 15:13 |
| srwilkers | i think it should be everyone honestly | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | would you be willing to try both, simultaneously :-D | 15:14 |
| srwilkers | nope | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | get your thumbs then, it's time to wrestle | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | If we can find an hour that works for everyone, I'm happy to try that | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | Since we're good in principle with this, let's keep on moving for now, and sort out the deets separately. Let's plan on implementing office hours next week | 15:16 |
| mattmceuen | #topic PTG Agenda | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Agenda (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:17 | |
| portdirect | i think we should deceide in the meeting | 15:17 |
| portdirect | or punt the decision to next week? | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Office Hours Remix | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Office Hours Remix (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:17 | |
| portdirect | can we do a vote? | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | Yup | 15:18 |
| portdirect | 1 - combined or seperate office hours | 15:18 |
| portdirect | then depending on outcome - timeslot or timeslots | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | (or both combined and separate) | 15:19 |
| portdirect | is there a quorum here? | 15:19 |
| portdirect | think theres only 50% of cores here | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | We have 4 cores (who would bear the brunt of the responsibility) and I'm interested in votes from everyone else (who would be getting the value) | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | Let's vote and then seek feedback offline from folks not here. | 15:20 |
| alanmeadows | If separate hours, is it possible we would increase our time coverage? | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | for me - I vote separate office hours, and I'm open to "all of the above" | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | Yep, that's what I was thinking alanmeadows | 15:21 |
| srwilkers | i vote combined | 15:22 |
| alanmeadows | i vote the opposite of steve just to be contrary | 15:22 |
| roman_g | Vote separate hours | 15:22 |
| powerds0111 | i vote separate hours :) | 15:22 |
| portdirect | I vote for two combined - one in the USA, and one in ASIA tz | 15:22 |
| alanmeadows | and because I worry combined might be a burden given some of us share external responsibilities | 15:23 |
| mattmceuen | always the consensus builder, portdirect | 15:23 |
| portdirect | as an ex euopean i expect to be left out ;) | 15:23 |
| srwilkers | alanmeadows: fried cheese for lunch today? :) | 15:23 |
| alanmeadows | srwilkers: oh boy | 15:23 |
| roman_g | portdirect two combined sounds good | 15:23 |
| mattmceuen | Here's what we'll do | 15:23 |
| powerds0111 | oh two combined looks better | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | We'll try to cluster | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | I'll send out one of those calendar voting things in the ML, and drop a note in IRC | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | Of times that "in general work for me" as a office hour-er | 15:25 |
| alanmeadows | even better, less group think | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | Then we'll try to pick some times that give us good coverage | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | Sound good? | 15:25 |
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| mattmceuen | If it's just two - that would be the target number | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | #action mattmceuen to send out schedule gathering thing to get office hours clustered | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | #topic PTG Agenda | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Agenda (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:27 | |
| mattmceuen | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-ptg-rocky | 15:27 |
| powerds0111 | can we talk about armada at PTG? | 15:27 |
| portdirect | powerds0111: ++ | 15:28 |
| mattmceuen | Please add things you'd like to discuss to this! ^ Or, things you'd like to be discussed in your absence if you're not able to come | 15:28 |
| mattmceuen | Yup let's do that powerds0111 | 15:28 |
| powerds0111 | yeap | 15:28 |
| mattmceuen | Please add it to the agenda | 15:28 |
| mattmceuen | Anything else on this topic - would you like to discuss any of the agenda items, or just take a look / add offline? | 15:29 |
| srwilkers | mattmceuen: have you reached out to whomever required for getting official space for us at the PTG? | 15:30 |
| srwilkers | now that we're official, we should have access to a specific room that'll appear on the schedule | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | Yep, we will be good to go - thanks for bringing that up srwilkers | 15:30 |
| srwilkers | awesome | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | We'll be Monday and Tuesday | 15:30 |
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| mattmceuen | Which will give us the opportunity to also participate in other project team meetings | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | So we'll want to capitalize on that - looking for opportunities to involved project teams / get feedback on the different charts | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | Alright - your move, srwilkers! | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Adding Armada fullstack check | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Adding Armada fullstack check (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:32 | |
| srwilkers | ive been working on getting a check running to deploy OSH + the infra bits via armada | 15:33 |
| srwilkers | just another change or two, and it should be good to go. watching it run in the gate currently | 15:33 |
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| srwilkers | for now, it's aiming for parity with the multinode deployments we do in the gate where applicable | 15:33 |
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| mattmceuen | That's fantastic - can you paste the PS in for posterity? | 15:34 |
| srwilkers | yep | 15:34 |
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| srwilkers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535972/ | 15:34 |
| srwilkers | that gives us a manifest for OSH and the logging and monitoring components | 15:34 |
| srwilkers | i'd like to see this maintained going forward, because it's pointed out a few issues with armada along the way | 15:35 |
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| srwilkers | but thats it :) | 15:35 |
| mattmceuen | I added this to the Needs Reviews list. Thanks srwilkers! | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | On that segueway -- we have a hefty list of PS that need eyes this week: | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nhf4jFc7/ | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | #topic PS needing reviews | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PS needing reviews (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:37 | |
| mattmceuen | Anyone like to discuss any of those in particular? | 15:37 |
| srwilkers | yeah, a quick note on a few | 15:37 |
| srwilkers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536383/ this one tunes the Prometheus intervals and block durations, which seems to calm Prometheus down a bit in regards to resource consumption | 15:38 |
| srwilkers | it moves the defaults for those values to the prometheus service defaults | 15:38 |
| srwilkers | also | 15:39 |
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| srwilkers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535780/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535222/ remove the RWM requirement for alertmanager and prometheus | 15:40 |
| srwilkers | alertmanager doesnt need RWM now that the chart uses peer meshing | 15:40 |
| srwilkers | and as long as multiple prometheus replicas contain the same targets, they also wont require a shared pvc | 15:41 |
| srwilkers | thats it from me | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | Remind me, what's RWM? | 15:41 |
| srwilkers | readwritemany | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | gotcha | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | that's fantastic | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | Team - let's spend some time over the next couple days getting solid review and feedback on this list, please. | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Topics for future meetings | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Topics for future meetings (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:43 | |
| mattmceuen | Is there anything that was brought up today that piqued anyone's interest, that they'd love to learn more about next time? Or any other corners of OSH that could use some illumination | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | Sounds good - if anything comes to mind we'll get it on the schedule for next time. | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Roundtable | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roundtable (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:45 | |
| mattmceuen | Thanks srwilkers for covering for me last week :) | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | That's all I got | 15:46 |
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| srwilkers | no problem mattmceuen | 15:46 |
| roman_g | OSH docs list 2 installation paths; I would like to have something like operations and upgrade guides | 15:46 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 15:47 |
| roman_g | That's common for OS software to have only install guides | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | That'll become more important as we become increasingly productionalized | 15:48 |
| roman_g | whereas majority of problems you get during long time operations and upgrades/migrations | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | roman_g, could you please create a blueprint in launchpad detailing what you'd expect/need out of the documentation? Would be great to capture "requirements" ahead of time | 15:49 |
| roman_g | Will do. | 15:50 |
| mattmceuen | awesome - thanks! | 15:50 |
| mattmceuen | Any other topic y'all would like to discuss today? | 15:51 |
| gmmaha | the ceph multi-osd per node patch has gone through too many iterations. any suggestions on how to brinng to a wuivk closure would help | 15:51 |
| gmmaha | the patch is working as expected now thanks to dave and renmak | 15:52 |
| gmmaha | s/wuivk/quick/ | 15:53 |
| mattmceuen | Agree. Did you add that PS into the list of ones to get review gmmaha? | 15:53 |
| mattmceuen | I haven't looked at all of them individually yet :) | 15:53 |
| gmmaha | mattmceuen: i did not.. will do | 15:53 |
| gmmaha | it is there now. thanks. | 15:54 |
| portdirect | gmmaha: Id also invite you to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536215/ | 15:55 |
| mattmceuen | Perfect - thanks. Let's get reviews on that one quick. Thanks gmmaha, dave, renmak, and portdirect who have all put a lot of effort into the ceph chart recently | 15:55 |
| gmmaha | portdirect: will do. | 15:55 |
| gmmaha | thanks mattmceuen portdirect | 15:55 |
| mattmceuen | Ok folks - if there are no more topics, we can call it a day. Keep up the good work. :) | 15:56 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 23 15:56:43 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-01-23-15.01.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-01-23-15.01.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-01-23-15.01.log.html | 15:56 |
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