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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 27 15:00:51 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:01 |
| gmmaha | o/ | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | Agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-03-27 | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | I'll give it a minute, because several of us in saint louis just got kicked out of our meeting room :) | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | Please add anything you'd like to discuss today to the agenda! | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | do we have jayahn in the house? | 15:04 |
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| portdirect | o/ | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | GM / GE everyone | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Multiline LMA functionality | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Multiline LMA functionality (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:06 | |
| mattmceuen | This was a topic Jay wanted to discuss but I don't think he was able to join today. Unless anyone wants to cover for him? | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | We can table it till next time unless he is able to join in a bit. | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | That's a segueway into our next topic :) | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Team meeting time | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Team meeting time (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:08 | |
| mattmceuen | At the PTG, it was brought up that our current meeting time is "morning in US" and "midnight in east asia", and opened the door to considering other timing. | 15:09 |
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| mattmceuen | I know not everyone is here (and timing is probably part of the reason), but how do we gathered feel about timing? Would a "afternoon US" time be good or bad? | 15:10 |
| srwilkers | i'd be fine with afternoon | 15:11 |
| portdirect | `afternoon US` = evening europe | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | gmmaha - would that timing work for you? | 15:11 |
| gmmaha | afternoon/morning shouldn't be too much of an issue in the US | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | to portdirect's point - there's no time that will be good for everyone, but I think "evening for some folks" is probably better than "midnight for /anyone/" if possible | 15:12 |
| portdirect | ++ | 15:12 |
| gmmaha | mattmceuen: yes afternoon would be fantastic. i don't have to run away in the middle of the meeting to drop the kid off at school.. | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | awesome :D | 15:13 |
| gmmaha | ++ | 15:13 |
| portdirect | I'm down with that - long as we dont end up midnight in turkey etc | 15:13 |
| srwilkers | ^ | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | Good deal. Let me take an action item to set up a poll thingie with some potential times so the team can vote | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | #topic PS needing review | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PS needing review (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:15 | |
| mattmceuen | We have a few PS needing review, and they are probably some topic-lets in themselves | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | I took a stab at organizing the thoughts we'd had at the PTG around OSH 1.0 release requirements: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556325/ | 15:16 |
| mattmceuen | So that we can have broader discussion, nail them down, and then divvy them up as work items | 15:16 |
| mattmceuen | If we can get some feedback / fill in gaps in that over the next week, it would be awesome | 15:16 |
| * mattmceuen pauses briefly to sip coffee before moving on to the next PS | 15:17 | |
| mattmceuen | Next is powerds0111's values ordering PS -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552485/ | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | There is some good discussion there so far, but I'd like for that to get broad input before we call it done | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | (spec I should say, not yet implementation) | 15:18 |
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| SamYaple | o/ | 15:19 |
| SamYaple | bit late sorry | 15:19 |
| mattmceuen | hey SamYaple no problemo! | 15:19 |
| mattmceuen | Final PS that I think would be really good to get broad understanding/review of is the nginx sidecar PS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555386/ | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | do we have lamt present? | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | I think he may actually be tied up in a conflict today. | 15:21 |
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| mattmceuen | portdirect do you think this one is deserving of a quick spec to give context / promote discussion? | 15:21 |
| SamYaple | i can give it a review, we deploy nginx+uwsgi loci in production outside OSH | 15:22 |
| portdirect | there should already be a spec i think | 15:22 |
| portdirect | SamYaple: thats the next step on from this ps | 15:22 |
| portdirect | as we need to remain compatible with Kolla | 15:22 |
| portdirect | I'd like us to be able to have ` nginx+uwsgi` as an option (turned on by default) | 15:23 |
| portdirect | but also support images without uwsgi | 15:23 |
| SamYaple | sure, i was more speaking to the configs needed to make it work | 15:23 |
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| portdirect | +++ | 15:23 |
| mattmceuen | Spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524013/ | 15:23 |
| portdirect | :) | 15:23 |
| mattmceuen | That still accurate for the new PS? | 15:24 |
| portdirect | yup | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | awesome | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks in advance SamYaple - let's all give the PS some review | 15:24 |
| portdirect | though we need a follow up for uwsgi | 15:24 |
| portdirect | as this simply deals with stage one | 15:24 |
| SamYaple | getting nginx without uwsgi and nginx with uwsgi as deploy options might be... difficult | 15:25 |
| SamYaple | can nginx only do uwsgi? other options for non-uwsgi? | 15:25 |
| portdirect | I've been giving it some thought | 15:25 |
| portdirect | I think it shouldnt be too hard | 15:25 |
| SamYaple | ok cool | 15:25 |
| portdirect | (mostly by going through home-salt... :D ) | 15:26 |
| SamYaple | sounds familiar | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | Any other PS that you all would like to get some wide feedback on? (or are otherwise languishing for review :-) ) | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Roundtable | 15:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roundtable (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:28 | |
| mattmceuen | Light agenda today - what else would we like to chat about | 15:28 |
| portdirect | heat bootstrap? | 15:28 |
| SamYaple | versioning strategy? | 15:28 |
| srwilkers | templates in templates | 15:28 |
| gmmaha | ceph chart plans? | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | versioning strategy - someone is deep in speccing that out | 15:29 |
| portdirect | SamYaple: I'm starting to pull together a versioning spec | 15:29 |
| portdirect | Soon as I have a ps, you'll be the 2nd to know :) | 15:29 |
| SamYaple | got it | 15:29 |
| portdirect | would be great for OSH and LOCI to follow the same one | 15:30 |
| portdirect | (or variants thereof) | 15:30 |
| SamYaple | right, thats why im curious | 15:30 |
| SamYaple | i want to 1.0.0 | 15:30 |
| portdirect | I promise to have that up by next meeting | 15:30 |
| lamt | o/ | 15:30 |
| SamYaple | ++ | 15:30 |
| portdirect | and plan to before EOW | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | thanks portdirect | 15:31 |
| portdirect | gmmaha: we really need to split out the ceph chart into three (at least) | 15:31 |
| portdirect | one for mons, another for osds, and one(or more) for fun extras | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | (do we have renmak_ -- he was interested in learning more about ^) | 15:31 |
| gmmaha | portdirect: right. sorry i have been out of action for a few weeks.. hence thought we shall sync | 15:31 |
| renmak_ | yes | 15:31 |
| renmak_ | I am here | 15:31 |
| portdirect | which will allow is to follow the same upgrade workflow as ceph-deploy et al. | 15:32 |
| gmmaha | ohh hey renmak_ | 15:32 |
| renmak_ | I believe we should have user stories for those splitting up Ceph | 15:32 |
| portdirect | we do *internally* ;) | 15:32 |
| renmak_ | :) | 15:32 |
| portdirect | and we should have a bp really | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | is the ceph chart split 100% for ordering/upgrade reasons, or are there additional reasons too? | 15:33 |
| gmmaha | portdirect: i saw you had a wip for getting the mon chart out. guess that's a good place to start for now | 15:33 |
| d|k | seems like it might also be good to get ceph-helm people (like @rootfs?) to provide input on the design | 15:33 |
| portdirect | mattmceuen: 50% upgrade 50% resiliency | 15:33 |
| portdirect | d|k: we are doing this in line with sage's thoughts | 15:34 |
| mattmceuen | the Arnold Palmer of production-grade software | 15:34 |
| d|k | fair enough, i just figured they might the heads up. | 15:34 |
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| mattmceuen | what kinds of fun extras would go in the third ceph chart? | 15:35 |
| d|k | rgw seems like one | 15:35 |
| gmmaha | mattmceuen: i am guessing rgw, rbd, etc | 15:35 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 15:35 |
| portdirect | ^^^ | 15:35 |
| d|k | in fact, rgw could be a component all by itself, i think. | 15:36 |
| portdirect | hence - one (or more :) ) | 15:36 |
| d|k | yah | 15:36 |
| portdirect | but lets go for: mons, osds, client things | 15:36 |
| portdirect | as a 1st step | 15:36 |
| gmmaha | ++ | 15:36 |
| portdirect | theres a LOT of work in that alone.. | 15:36 |
| d|k | there's probably also key management and mgr. | 15:36 |
| portdirect | we also have to do this rapidly | 15:37 |
| portdirect | as its def on the critical path for a 1.0 | 15:37 |
| portdirect | so anyone taking this on should be aware of that | 15:37 |
| gmmaha | portdirect: have you had a chance to write down your thoughts on how this will all playout?. | 15:37 |
| gmmaha | just to understand the design | 15:38 |
| gmmaha | guessing there will be a common ceph chart that will host keys, conf etc which we might inherit on all of the individual ones. | 15:38 |
| portdirect | no! | 15:39 |
| SamYaple | lol | 15:39 |
| portdirect | you cant upgrade that | 15:39 |
| gmmaha | :+ | 15:39 |
| portdirect | we need them to be seperate | 15:39 |
| portdirect | if we bundled them together, we'd have the same problem we have today | 15:40 |
| portdirect | where we cannot upgrade each component individually | 15:40 |
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| renmak_ | Pete, can you suggest/discuss design for this effort? It would be great to understand clear picture of what is needed | 15:41 |
| gmmaha | yeah, that will put us back to the where we are now. | 15:41 |
| portdirect | I'll get a BP up | 15:42 |
| renmak_ | Awesome! | 15:43 |
| gmmaha | portdirect: thanks. sorry for loading more on your plate | 15:43 |
| portdirect | np | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | Any other roundtable topics, or things you'd like to get on the agenda for next time? | 15:46 |
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| mattmceuen | cool beans -thanks everyone! have a good day | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 27 15:48:50 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-03-27-15.00.html | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-03-27-15.00.txt | 15:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-03-27-15.00.log.html | 15:48 |
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