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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 8 15:00:50 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| mattmceuen | #topic rollcall | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| mattmceuen | GM everyone! | 15:00 |
| lamt | o/ | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | Here's our agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-05-08 | 15:01 |
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| mattmceuen | please add in anything you'd like to discuss today | 15:01 |
| portdirect | o/ | 15:01 |
| jawonchoo | o/ | 15:01 |
| gmmaha | o/ | 15:01 |
| rwellum | o/ | 15:01 |
| jayahn | o/ | 15:03 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Senlin, Mistral, Magnum | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Senlin, Mistral, Magnum (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:03 | |
| mattmceuen | Thanks Pete :D | 15:03 |
| mattmceuen | Any comments to share on those guys other than mission accomplished? | 15:03 |
| portdirect | not really :) | 15:04 |
| portdirect | lamt was a great help | 15:05 |
| portdirect | for the senlin chart | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | thx lamt! | 15:05 |
| lamt | np | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | Next: | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | #topic release notes | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release notes (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:06 | |
| mattmceuen | At the PTG we had discussed the need for release notes as a gate for our 1.0 readiness (and moving forward with other releases) | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | I know that there has been some frustration with the way that Reno has been used / overused in some instances | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | However Reno's also the standard way of approaching release notes in openstack | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | I am open to any solution that saves developers effort and gets meaningful release notes (and no more!) into our users hands | 15:07 |
| portdirect | As long as we use reno as a tool, not a weapon I'm good :) | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | As I don't have experience with Reno in a project, leaning on you guys to share opinions | 15:07 |
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| srwilkers | o/ | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | Can you give examples of each portdirect? | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | hey srwilkers! Just in time to tell us how to Reno like Champions | 15:09 |
| srwilkers | you dont want me to tell you how to do that | 15:09 |
| portdirect | yeah - I've seen reno gates that have really made the admin overhead of contibuting to a project very high | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | Reno like it's HOt | 15:09 |
| portdirect | eg for a simple bugfix | 15:09 |
| srwilkers | exactly, reno like its hot -- throw ice water on it then throw it out the back | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | So to your point about using it like a tool -- | 15:10 |
| portdirect | but then I've also seen projects where when used to describe and document major functionality changes or enchancement its been great :) | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | 1) we need to define When we'd like to have release notes | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | 2) we need to use something e.g. Reno to do only that | 15:10 |
| portdirect | from the way the 1.0.0 spec is written - it looks like the versioning doc would be a good place to articulate this? | 15:11 |
| portdirect | s/doc/spec | 15:11 |
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| mattmceuen | I think that's a good idea, it's very related | 15:12 |
| portdirect | but yeah - if we get point 1 in place then i think we should be good | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | Cool. Any other Yeas / Neas on using Reno vs. an alternative, provided we have ground rules for whatever tooling we use? | 15:12 |
| jayahn | nothing particular | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | There's a WIP for adding Reno: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563481/ | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks to felipemonteiro_ for making it work :) | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | But I think we should hold off on merging it till we have ground rules defined | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | That's all I got on that topic | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Pike and Queens support | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike and Queens support (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:15 | |
| mattmceuen | all yours portdirect | 15:15 |
| portdirect | so - I've been doing some things on this side ;) | 15:15 |
| felipemonteiro_ | np, there's an infra follow-up if i recall correctly for the renos to be published | 15:16 |
| portdirect | and have been running a full queens lab | 15:16 |
| portdirect | and testing upgrade from newton to queens | 15:16 |
| portdirect | and with running workloads.... | 15:16 |
| portdirect | ...it works | 15:16 |
| portdirect | :) | 15:16 |
| srwilkers | nice portdirect | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | yay! | 15:17 |
| rwellum | +1 | 15:17 |
| portdirect | most of the changes i required are now in (or should hopefuly be in soon) | 15:17 |
| portdirect | and in the next two days - I'll get checks in place for both of them | 15:17 |
| portdirect | similar to how we do ocata | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | That is really fantastic. | 15:18 |
| portdirect | though i need to test with kolla - as all my work has ben loci based. | 15:18 |
| jayahn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566820/ >> this was only thing we found to do queens with kolla | 15:18 |
| jayahn | pike works | 15:18 |
| portdirect | yeah - loci did not have that issue :P | 15:18 |
| portdirect | :D | 15:18 |
| portdirect | thanks jawonchoo | 15:19 |
| portdirect | https://github.com/portdirect/openstack-helm/commit/b3f82f3d3e6a912b88ccf7bc3a53e36377211487 | 15:19 |
| jawonchoo | np | 15:19 |
| mattmceuen | To be clear, your test has been the full n->m->o->p->q, right? Is any stabilization between upgrade steps needed (beyond pods being ready) needed before moving on to the next upgrade? | 15:20 |
| portdirect | nope | 15:20 |
| portdirect | though my testing has been very simplistic | 15:20 |
| portdirect | just launch a cirros vm at easch stage | 15:20 |
| portdirect | and ssh into it, before moving on | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | neat | 15:20 |
| portdirect | the hardest thing was cellsv2 support | 15:21 |
| rwellum | Yeah that sucks portdirect - took me ages in kolla-k8s as well. | 15:21 |
| portdirect | as to get `hands off` and be able to take advantage of them fully at later stages we need to do some footwork about their mangement | 15:21 |
| portdirect | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565457/13/nova/templates/bin/_db-sync.sh.tpl | 15:22 |
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| mattmceuen | Anything else on the version/upgrade front? | 15:24 |
| rwellum | Is osh with loci images much quicker to deploy than with Kolla? | 15:24 |
| portdirect | think thats it for now :) | 15:24 |
| portdirect | rwellum: not really | 15:25 |
| jayahn | rwellum: not much when we tested | 15:25 |
| portdirect | you save a couple of minutes on the download | 15:25 |
| portdirect | but frankly thats not super-relivent | 15:26 |
| portdirect | what you really save on is simple builds, and improved security | 15:26 |
| rwellum | Got it | 15:26 |
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| mattmceuen | #topic hands-on demo | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "hands-on demo (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:27 | |
| mattmceuen | take it away jayahn | 15:27 |
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| jayahn | i talked with pete | 15:28 |
| jayahn | need communication and coordination needed as soon as possible. | 15:28 |
| jayahn | i did "bold and underline" for the things decided among options. | 15:29 |
| * mattmceuen is reading it now | 15:29 | |
| jayahn | use newton, and upgrade to ocata (since this is the most tested and stable stuff) | 15:29 |
| jayahn | basically prepare hands-on based on gate script | 15:30 |
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| jayahn | SKT will prepare VMs (100 VMs) | 15:30 |
| jayahn | I had to do openstack-helm semniar to prepare the fund. :) | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | ah I get the underlining - cool | 15:31 |
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| jayahn | need to discuss scenario, espeically with showing lma. | 15:32 |
| portdirect | does anyone else want to attend the meeting that jayahn is setting up on thurs? | 15:32 |
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| jayahn | i prettey sure we can deploy prometheus monitoring, but logging (with elasticsearch) requires quite a lot of resources. | 15:32 |
| portdirect | would be great to get input from new people to the community as well. | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | +1. Please add me too | 15:33 |
| rwellum | Me too | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | What time will it be? | 15:33 |
| jayahn | pls put your name and email (contact info) on etherpad, so that I can invite you] | 15:33 |
| jayahn | portdirect said he can be available either on thursday or friday. | 15:33 |
| jayahn | so sometime in thursday. i will work on the exact time | 15:34 |
| srwilkers | yeah, using the full lma stack + osh on top for the workshops going to get resource intensive | 15:34 |
| portdirect | thurday dring cst business hours is pretty much the only time i have this week :( | 15:34 |
| jayahn | (since Friday there is Satureday here in Korea) | 15:34 |
| portdirect | theres also a time constraint | 15:34 |
| portdirect | so we'll need people to get the scripts to both be informative, and possible in the 1:30 we have | 15:35 |
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| jayahn | srwilkers: true. we can managee to deploy, but it will barely usalble. so my opinion is leaning toward just deploy prometheus and grafana. | 15:35 |
| mattmceuen | I like that idea jayahn. We can always just tell people there's a full stack for logging as well. | 15:35 |
| srwilkers | jayahn: yep, that's the pretty dashboards anyway | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | And just deploy prom & grafana | 15:36 |
| jayahn | yeap. | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | Exactly :-D | 15:36 |
| jayahn | i will create etherpad entry to write things before the meeting, and invite all of you for thursday usa central time | 15:37 |
| jayahn | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-vancouver-handson | 15:37 |
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| jayahn | okay. that's it for now. | 15:39 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks jayahn | 15:39 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Test Migration to StoryBoard | 15:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Test Migration to StoryBoard (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:39 | |
| mattmceuen | show us what you got rwellum | 15:39 |
| rwellum | https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/project/195 | 15:40 |
| rwellum | It's a test migration. | 15:40 |
| mattmceuen | nice! | 15:40 |
| rwellum | Please check it out - and let me know what you think? | 15:40 |
| portdirect | it this 'live' or we need to pull again if things change in launchpad? | 15:41 |
| jayahn | certificaton warning. :) | 15:41 |
| rwellum | portdirect: It's live but a test I believe. In other words, until you commit to cutting over it will get stale. | 15:41 |
| rwellum | jayahn: really - not for me? | 15:42 |
| portdirect | roger - looks ok | 15:42 |
| portdirect | will poke for sure :D | 15:42 |
| rwellum | Yeah sounds good - also look at Ironic's - they are quite far along. | 15:42 |
| jayahn | will do | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | Awesome. Thanks for putting this together Rich. | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | I'll poke at this too | 15:42 |
| rwellum | np | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | #topic PS needing review | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PS needing review (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:43 | |
| mattmceuen | There was a lot of happy stuff up above | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | But when it comes to PS needing review it is a sad sad day | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | All our PS from last week are still needing review | 15:44 |
| srwilkers | this is why i stay sad all the time -- i never get caught off guard | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | smart, srwilkers | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | I am as guilty obviously as anyone else :) | 15:44 |
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| mattmceuen | Let's focus on rounding these out in the next couple days please | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559297/ | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563224/ | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543553/ | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556325/ | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560756/ > Need feedback on the last comment we put there. | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | This will insure maximum happiness in next week's meeting | 15:45 |
| * srwilkers schemes | 15:45 | |
| mattmceuen | Any other PS we need to call out for review? | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Roundtable | 15:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roundtable (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:46 | |
| mattmceuen | ok peeps - what else is on your minds? | 15:47 |
| rwellum | As soon as Pete is happy with Queens support - I'd be interested in trying it out. | 15:47 |
| portdirect | rwellum: next stop - master! | 15:47 |
| srwilkers | i probably shouldve thrown it in earlier, but the ldap stuff ive been working on for elasticsearch/kibana is almost ready for a proper review | 15:48 |
| srwilkers | need to tweak a few things, then can expect me to shout out for some eyeballs on it | 15:48 |
| rwellum | +1 portdirect | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | Alright guys - good meeting :) | 15:49 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks for all your effort | 15:49 |
| jayahn | one quick side note: people tends to think osh is tight sync with loci, not kolla. we might need to do better communication on that. :) | 15:49 |
| jayahn | but, we can chat later with this one. | 15:50 |
| portdirect | we are free agents - the best tool for the job at hand ;) | 15:50 |
| jayahn | yeap. that we need to let everyone know,. :) | 15:50 |
| mattmceuen | That should be a talking point for us in Vancouver -- point out that we are image-agnostic to the extent possible | 15:50 |
| jayahn | agreed | 15:51 |
| mattmceuen | Meeting adjourned - see you all in the osh channel | 15:52 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 8 15:52:16 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-05-08-15.00.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-05-08-15.00.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-05-08-15.00.log.html | 15:52 |
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