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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 3 15:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Rollcall | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | GM all | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | Agenda today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-07-03 | 15:00 |
| tdoc | hi | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | Please add antyhing you'd like to discuss in there | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | We will be a little light today as a lot of folks in the US are taking off due to Independence Day being tomorrow | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | o/ tdoc srwilkers | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | do we have jayahn yet? | 15:03 |
| portdirect | Or back in their homelands ;) | 15:03 |
| srwilkers | ! | 15:03 |
| srwilkers | a wild portdirect appears! | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | you know you're 100% american by now portdirect | 15:04 |
| portdirect | Be warned, the letter of today is WHISKY | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | see, you're celebrating july 4th remote | 15:04 |
| srwilkers | i think the letter of the day is `E` -- the one the whiskey made you forget to include | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | LOL | 15:05 |
| portdirect | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/4yGIWfC3/irccloudcapture485639533655189030.jpg | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | portdirect is winning today | 15:05 |
| * srwilkers grumbles | 15:05 | |
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| mattmceuen | we'll come back to jayahn's topic and start with srwilkers | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Progress on values standardization | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Progress on values standardization (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:06 | |
| mattmceuen | tell us about chart testing! | 15:06 |
| srwilkers | was just curious if there had been any progress on the work to standardize our values.yaml format | 15:06 |
| srwilkers | as it's been targeted as a 1.0 requirement, and working across multiple charts lately has made me realize how much i really want this | 15:06 |
| tdoc | I ~. | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | The spec for that is still under review | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | So there is plenty of opportunity to get good ideas into it :) | 15:07 |
| srwilkers | okay | 15:07 |
| portdirect | Not that I have seen, the spec has been languishing in review | 15:07 |
| srwilkers | ill take a peek at it today then | 15:07 |
| portdirect | I've started making an attempt to get docstring like comments for helm toolkit | 15:07 |
| srwilkers | portdirect: yeah, huge fan. :) | 15:07 |
| srwilkers | portdirect: looks clean and nice | 15:07 |
| portdirect | And would really like to see us start to unit test the toolkit properly | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552485/ | 15:07 |
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| srwilkers | was mostly curious because itd be nice to potentially use something like https://github.com/kubernetes-helm/chart-testing to be able to lint values | 15:08 |
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| srwilkers | it sounds like you can define the schema expected with it, but haven't verified that for certain beyond a precursory glance | 15:08 |
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| mattmceuen | Can be used with Helm 2 right? | 15:09 |
| srwilkers | but would help enforce the structure we want | 15:09 |
| srwilkers | yeah | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | Neat | 15:09 |
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| portdirect | I'd like to look into it, but between this and the unit testing plugin | 15:09 |
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| portdirect | I think we could shore up things a lot | 15:09 |
| srwilkers | me too | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | ++ | 15:09 |
| srwilkers | if you want to action item me mattmceuen, ill spend some free time this week poking at the chart-testing bits | 15:10 |
| srwilkers | and at least see what it's capable of | 15:10 |
| portdirect | It would be great to get a summary of what it gives us | 15:10 |
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| srwilkers | word | 15:10 |
| * mattmceuen looks up meetbot docs | 15:11 | |
| portdirect | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/wTTAqDns | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | #action srwilkers to look into chart-testing for helm and values.yaml order standards and enforcement | 15:11 |
| portdirect | Is powerds0111 still working this at all? | 15:12 |
| srwilkers | not sure | 15:12 |
| portdirect | Or would it make sense for srwilkers to take over the spec? | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | a few weeks ago he said he still wanted to contribute to it but has been tied up and/or on vacation | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | I will reach out, but I'm sure he wouldn't mind some help with it | 15:13 |
| srwilkers | mattmceuen portdirect: whatever works. happy to help if required | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | Let's plan to circle back next week with a plan to close it out | 15:13 |
| srwilkers | works for me | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | alright - do we have jayahn in the house by chance? | 15:14 |
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| mattmceuen | #topic Progress on documenting setting up bridges (hooking up provider network) in the multi-node manual? | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Progress on documenting setting up bridges (hooking up provider network) in the multi-node manual? (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:15 | |
| mattmceuen | Thanks vadym for adding this | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | We have added the first batch of multinode doc updates in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576342/ | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | This one cleans up a lot of the little things | 15:15 |
| portdirect | Is rwellum about? | 15:16 |
| mattmceuen | Next big change will be to split out the kubernetes setup into its own sub-guide, with appropriate verbiage around picking a production-grade k8s installer | 15:16 |
| vadym | thanks guys! | 15:16 |
| mattmceuen | for hooking up a provider network -- I haven't added anything to the guide for that yet, although it would be a good add. At the bottom of the multinode guide we now basically punt out to the openstack configuration guide for site-specific config | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | To set expectations that "things still need to be configured right" | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | But, an example provider network setup is still something I think would be good to add to the end of the multinode guide | 15:18 |
| tdoc | yup | 15:18 |
| portdirect | Yeah, we do need to also cover cases without a provider net as well | 15:18 |
| portdirect | Using somthing like we have in the AIO guide for people with a single gateway node, or the mirad of other fun things people come up with | 15:19 |
| mattmceuen | vadym - if you'd like to add the provider net example, that would be much appreciated as well! | 15:20 |
| portdirect | ++ | 15:20 |
| vadym | ok, I'll look into it | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | awesome - thanks! Please ping me if/when you have any q's | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | Anything else on the doc front, team? | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Is "nginx" a good default for namespace ingress class? | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Is "nginx" a good default for namespace ingress class? (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:22 | |
| mattmceuen | Take it away tdoc | 15:22 |
| tdoc | well, this is something i kinda ran into... | 15:22 |
| tdoc | we deploy a 'default' nginx ingress controller | 15:22 |
| tdoc | which means it does not set an ingress class for that controller | 15:23 |
| tdoc | which means it will pick up those namespace ingress objects, as 'nginx' is the default class | 15:23 |
| tdoc | or at least that's my understanding so far... | 15:24 |
| tdoc | So it made me wonder if using "nginx" is a sensible default? | 15:24 |
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| mattmceuen | sorry tdoc my boss tapped me on the shoulder :) I'm back | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | so functionally, it would be a no-op to make that change, but it would be more explicit if we set nginx as the default? Am I understanding right? | 15:28 |
| tdoc | well, for the cluster ingress 'nginx-cluster' is used, but for the namespace 'nginx'... | 15:29 |
| tdoc | that all works fine, but if there is another ingress controleller deployed, which is setup without a specific class, it uses 'nginx' | 15:30 |
| tdoc | so it seems to me something like 'nginx-openstack' (or maybe even 'nginx-$namespace'?) might make more sense? | 15:31 |
| portdirect | $namespace might make sense | 15:31 |
| portdirect | But we would need to be careful with it | 15:32 |
| portdirect | Could you make a ps, so we could explore this? | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | I may be missing the point, apologize - is there a conflict if the two different ingresses both have nginx class? They'd both be in different namespaces, right? | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | A line of code is worth a thousand words :D | 15:33 |
| tdoc | well, I'm not a 100% sure, but I think it is a problem, because that class is how a ingress object inside a namespace can be picked up by a controller in another namespace | 15:34 |
| mattmceuen | I think you may be onto something then | 15:37 |
| portdirect | We specifically limit the controllers to listen in only their ns dir this reason tdoc | 15:38 |
| portdirect | *dir/for | 15:38 |
| tdoc | hmm, i may have missed this part then... | 15:39 |
| portdirect | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/ingress/templates/bin/_ingress-controller.sh.tpl#L26 | 15:39 |
| tdoc | aha, ok... | 15:40 |
| tdoc | still though, i would argue that using 'nginx' is a somewhat unfortunate default? | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | What would you recommend as a sane default? | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | The $namespaced version still, or something else? | 15:42 |
| tdoc | anything but 'nginx' really ;) | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | hahaha | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | Put in a PS with what you think is good -- I for one am not wedded to it :) | 15:42 |
| tdoc | ok (will look into how to do so) | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | awesome - ping me in the osh channel or on the side if you run into any issues | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Roundtable Discussion | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roundtable Discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:44 | |
| tdoc | ok, thanks | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | What else is on your mind, guys | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | The fact that tomorrow's a holiday? :) | 15:45 |
| srwilkers | ++ | 15:45 |
| tdoc | i have another question on fqdn overrides, but can also ask on the main channel.. | 15:46 |
| mattmceuen | Go for it - you have eyeballs now | 15:46 |
| srwilkers | we've still got 14 minutes yet -- fire away | 15:46 |
| tdoc | so, when I specify those fqdn overrides, I can see that domain appear in ingress rules.. but shouldn't it also change entries in keystones endpoint lists? | 15:47 |
| tdoc | or do i need to override those separately? | 15:47 |
| lamt | is the public endpoint in ks not using the fqdn overrides? | 15:49 |
| tdoc | that's kinda what I expected, but not what seems to happen for me... | 15:49 |
| mattmceuen | Let me take that one back and poke at it a bit | 15:51 |
| mattmceuen | Ok if we revisit next week with an answer? | 15:51 |
| tdoc | sure, thanks | 15:53 |
| tdoc | i'll keep poking on my end as well ;) | 15:53 |
| mattmceuen | Deal :) | 15:54 |
| mattmceuen | Alright guys - thanks much and have a great rest of the week! | 15:54 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 3 15:54:32 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-07-03-15.00.html | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-07-03-15.00.txt | 15:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-07-03-15.00.log.html | 15:54 |
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