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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 10 15:01:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Rollcall | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| tdoc | o/ | 15:01 |
| jayahn | o/ | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | GM / GE all! | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-07-10 | 15:02 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:02 |
| srwilkers | hello | 15:02 |
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| vadym | hi | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | Please go ahead and add anything you'd like to discuss into the agenda | 15:02 |
| jayahn | sorry, i have been missing meetings. | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | No problem jayahn :) I know you guys were really busy with the conference - how did it go? | 15:02 |
| jayahn | we had a big openstack (openinfra) event in Korea, and there has been some vacation, urgent works... etc. | 15:03 |
| jayahn | sigh | 15:03 |
| jayahn | it was great. we had 900 people show up on the first day, and 600 on the second day | 15:03 |
| mattmceuen | that's awesome! | 15:03 |
| mattmceuen | I saw a picture of you on stage :) | 15:03 |
| jayahn | also had hands-on workshop on openstack-helm, | 15:03 |
| jayahn | also introduction for airship | 15:04 |
| srwilkers | can alexa deploy airship yet? | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | congrats on all that | 15:04 |
| jayahn | not yet.. | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | Alright let's get started | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Approriate behavior of KS endpoints when using fqdn_overrides | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Approriate behavior of KS endpoints when using fqdn_overrides (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:04 | |
| mattmceuen | I will be totally honest, I forget the context of this one, even though I added it a week ago :) anyone remember? | 15:05 |
| jayahn | we might have "kakao - one of the biggest social service and internet company in korea" on board with openstack-helm | 15:05 |
| jayahn | I am trying.. :) | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | that's outstanding! If any kakao folks are here or catching up on the logs - welcome :) | 15:05 |
| tdoc | I had some questions last week on those endpoints, it appeared specifying fqdn overrides didn't change public endpoints. | 15:06 |
| tdoc | But this week I did more testing, and it does actually put that fqdn in public endpoint... | 15:06 |
| tdoc | (Not entirely sure what happened the first attempt.) | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | Oh awesome | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | I love it when problems sort themselves out :) glad to hear that | 15:07 |
| tdoc | what may have caused it is that a helm delete --purge keystone, and then re-install that chart, does not wipe the db by default.... | 15:08 |
| portdirect | ah - this is a known bug | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | ah yes | 15:08 |
| portdirect | keystone endpoints are a one time deal atm | 15:08 |
| portdirect | (for the keystone chart) | 15:08 |
| portdirect | all others update | 15:09 |
| tdoc | and then keystone bootstrap does not replace the endpoints | 15:09 |
| portdirect | I'm working n a fix | 15:09 |
| portdirect | which should be in within the next week | 15:09 |
| portdirect | as you point out - the keystone-boostrap util does not udpate endpoints | 15:09 |
| piotrrrr | does this have a bug entry somewhere we can track the resolution of? | 15:09 |
| portdirect | it just creates them in the db if they dont exist | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | yay portdirect | 15:09 |
| portdirect | piotrrrr: honestly not sure | 15:09 |
| piotrrrr | ok | 15:10 |
| tdoc | another thing I ran into today actually is that the default values.yaml doesn't make it very clear how to change the port for the public endpoint | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | piotrrr or tdoc if you're interested in watching the status feel free to put one on storyboard and assign it to portdirect | 15:10 |
| tdoc | ok | 15:11 |
| tdoc | so, other than that, I don't have anything else on endpoints | 15:11 |
| srwilkers | tdoc: i think portdirect has recently updated the docs for the endpoint foo. it's pretty helpful | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | portdirect is also in the process of adding a lot of great documentation inline in the helm toolkit functions - that will help with understanding how to change that sort of setting | 15:12 |
| srwilkers | it cleared some things up even for me | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | ++ | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | Spells out the values.yaml structure and the invocation signature for the different HTK functions | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | This will be a great resource (thx portdirect) | 15:12 |
| portdirect | though alwayscan do with more hands :) | 15:12 |
| portdirect | I'm just going through it all as quick as possible | 15:12 |
| tdoc | yup noticed some of that already, thanks! | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | Alright next topic: | 15:13 |
| portdirect | but lets enchance them | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Values yaml schema and validation | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Values yaml schema and validation (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:13 | |
| mattmceuen | jayahn do you know whether powerds will have some time to get this one going? Or should we look for a new owner? | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | There was some good discussion last week around automating schema validation, so this got brought up | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | Or do we have powerds0111 here? | 15:15 |
| jayahn | he is here, i think. he said he is terribly sorry for not able to take this. | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | Oh it's no worries | 15:15 |
| portdirect | np | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | All good | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | Just need to know if we need to reassign it or not -- everyone's been busy | 15:15 |
| powerds0111 | o/ | 15:15 |
| portdirect | as its one of the biggest items for 1.0.x - can we get someone to take this on? | 15:15 |
| powerds0111 | in the etherpad, srwilkers said can go on the ps | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | yeah srwilkers said he can pitch in on this, but he's also pretty slammed with other LMA work so I know it might be some time before he can get to it | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | So if anyone else gets time - this spec would be a great way to get into spec writing for OSH, and it'll help crystallize the OSH public interface so it can be stable post-1.0 | 15:19 |
| portdirect | ++ | 15:19 |
| srwilkers | agreed | 15:19 |
| portdirect | without this locked in, we cant really move to supporting multiple os versions in a clean, stable, manner | 15:19 |
| mattmceuen | And there's fun opportunity to implement automated values validation afterwards, which will be great for all developers | 15:20 |
| portdirect | so really ties into things like rally testing etc | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | I think we can move on, anything else on this topic? | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | #topic All qemu processes for instances are killed when restart libvirt pod (kubectl delete pod libvirt) | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "All qemu processes for instances are killed when restart libvirt pod (kubectl delete pod libvirt) (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:21 | |
| mattmceuen | Dan had a Q on this PS: | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578099/ | 15:21 |
| powerds0111 | yes. I wanna to know what the solution about the issue | 15:22 |
| portdirect | ok - if you are using kvm | 15:23 |
| portdirect | you can restart the container, without impacting vms | 15:23 |
| portdirect | if using qemu then, yeah you cannot restart the pod without killing the vm | 15:24 |
| portdirect | *kvm via qemu | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | Make sense powerds0111? Or any concerns with that approach? | 15:25 |
| powerds0111 | ah ok | 15:25 |
| powerds0111 | you mean the issue is on qemu not KVM | 15:25 |
| powerds0111 | then do we have plan to support qemu without killing the vm? | 15:26 |
| portdirect | thats not possible | 15:27 |
| portdirect | :( | 15:27 |
| portdirect | the change to enabling mount propogation, is to enable pod restart while using kvm, and say nfs to mount a cinder volume | 15:28 |
| portdirect | as without mount propogation, the nfs mount would be ripped out... | 15:28 |
| powerds0111 | ah. for nfs mount case | 15:29 |
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| portdirect | or many other cinder backends | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | Cool - I think we're good to move on to the next topic unless there's more | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Touchpoint on Rally multi-version support | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Touchpoint on Rally multi-version support (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:30 | |
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| mattmceuen | jayahn I haven't read the full notes yet :) there is some discussion in the agenda if anyone wants to check that out now | 15:31 |
| jayahn | I did my best to summarize team's feedback from a "shadow" etherpad note. :) | 15:31 |
| jayahn | a shadow etherpad = https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-07-10-KR | 15:32 |
| jayahn | lol | 15:32 |
| jayahn | anyway, | 15:32 |
| jayahn | summing up, as pete pointed out, rally is version independent. if we keep using latest rally version, it should support some of previous openstack releases as well. | 15:33 |
| jayahn | well, test cases can be different though | 15:33 |
| jayahn | one small problem is on kolla rally image. | 15:33 |
| jayahn | one question here: can loci provide a clean and updated rally image? | 15:34 |
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| portdirect | I'd need to check | 15:35 |
| portdirect | but last time i did, it could not | 15:35 |
| portdirect | as rally did not follow openstack standards | 15:35 |
| portdirect | and did not use openstack/requirements | 15:35 |
| portdirect | i had a ps to build a lightweight rally/tempest image | 15:35 |
| portdirect | that i should get out of limbo though | 15:35 |
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| jayahn | okay. let's check that later then. | 15:36 |
| portdirect | did you read the notes from the last meeting? | 15:36 |
| portdirect | as i think that covered most of the points raised | 15:36 |
| jayahn | yeap. | 15:36 |
| portdirect | im afraid my korean is not good :( | 15:36 |
| portdirect | can you help with updating rally version? | 15:37 |
| jayahn | i did "Ref_1" "Ref_2"... on etherpad note, that will track back to your original comments. | 15:37 |
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| jayahn | we can certainly discuss what we need to do. to-do #1: have updated rally image, to-do #2: agree on a way to provide "rally test cases that might different per version" | 15:39 |
| jayahn | I did upload a sample armada manifest that has rally test case in it. | 15:40 |
| jayahn | https://github.com/sktelecom-oslab/armada-manifests/blob/master/osh-single-sample.yaml | 15:40 |
| jayahn | we want to discuss what would be the best way to provide rally test. | 15:40 |
| portdirect | would any of that be applicable upstream? | 15:41 |
| portdirect | it would be nice to benefit from any advances you have made internally? | 15:41 |
| jayahn | I think it is possible. we just need to discuss what would be best way. "to provide a single rally test scenario can be applied to most of openstack release a.k.a common set" vs. "to provide a rally test per openstack release". | 15:43 |
| portdirect | a common set would be perferable | 15:43 |
| jayahn | if it is later case, then we need to have a way to provide switchable switchable based on the Openstack release | 15:43 |
| portdirect | as remember these tests are not ment to be more than a deployment validation tool | 15:44 |
| portdirect | and we have a rally chart for full testing | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | I need to step away for 2min - I'll kick this off and be back in a sec | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Galera doesn't survive cluster restart. A known issue? | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Galera doesn't survive cluster restart. A known issue? (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:45 | |
| portdirect | yeah a known issue | 15:45 |
| portdirect | again i expect to have this fixed within the next week | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | Jay already weighed in in the etherpad too to that effect | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks portdirect | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Queens support status update? ETA? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567468/ | 15:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Queens support status update? ETA? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567468/ (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:46 | |
| portdirect | which will use this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562080/ | 15:46 |
| portdirect | queens again is close | 15:46 |
| portdirect | we just need to push some testing images | 15:46 |
| portdirect | but other than that | 15:46 |
| portdirect | I think we are gtg | 15:46 |
| jayahn | portdirect: I will followup soon with applying rally test with armada deployment on upstream gating. (this is MUST followup item, right?) :) | 15:47 |
| portdirect | whoops for the mariadb work i should have posted this link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567008/ | 15:47 |
| portdirect | jayahn: i dont follow? | 15:48 |
| portdirect | there is work in progess to use helm-test in the upstream gates if thats what your refering to: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579652/ | 15:49 |
| jayahn | i feel like discussion on rally test, especially applying what we have on upstream gating, is stopped in the middle of discussion. | 15:49 |
| portdirect | that srwilkers is leading the charge on | 15:49 |
| jayahn | so i think it is hightly doable. | 15:49 |
| jayahn | want to followup with actual work we need to do.. | 15:49 |
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| * jayahn is confused a little bit. need to have a time to sort out today's meeting. | 15:52 | |
| mattmceuen | Want to continue the discussion on the ML jayahn? | 15:53 |
| mattmceuen | May help just to reframe the conversation instead of having a few weeks of meeting logs back and forth | 15:53 |
| jayahn | anyway, your ps https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579652/ looks like test is ready. will it be like "putting testing scenario, do helm test leveraging rally"? | 15:53 |
| portdirect | could you rephrase that? | 15:55 |
| portdirect | i think something is lost in translation :) | 15:55 |
| jayahn | I just want to follow up with pete's request | 15:55 |
| jayahn | "can you help with updating rally version?" & "would any of that be applicable upstream? | 15:55 |
| jayahn | it would be nice to benefit from any advances you have made internally?" | 15:55 |
| jayahn | yeap. :) | 15:55 |
| jayahn | something is lost.. :( . | 15:56 |
| portdirect | so - it wouldbe great if you guys could audit the tests | 15:56 |
| portdirect | and select a set that work with mast rally | 15:56 |
| portdirect | and 0.8.0 | 15:56 |
| portdirect | *master | 15:56 |
| srwilkers | ^ that patchset simply tells armada to do what we do in the gates for the standard multinode deployment -- exercise the default helm tests defined in a chart | 15:56 |
| portdirect | based on what your teaam is saying, heve they already done this within SKT? | 15:56 |
| jayahn | okay, i think this is highly doable for us. I will take it to the team tomorrow (in my time), and get back to you with more detail tomorrow (in your time) | 15:59 |
| mattmceuen | Awesome thanks jayahn! | 16:00 |
| mattmceuen | Looks like we're out of time unfortunately | 16:00 |
| mattmceuen | I'll paste the PS requested for review in the team chat | 16:00 |
| mattmceuen | Have a great week everyone | 16:00 |
| jayahn | yeap. thansk. | 16:00 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 10 16:00:47 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-07-10-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-07-10-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-07-10-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
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