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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 31 15:00:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | GM/GE all! | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Rollcall | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| jayahn | o/ | 15:00 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:00 |
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| mattmceuen | Here's our agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-07-31 | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | have at it | 15:00 |
| anticw | o/ | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | howdy anticw srwilkers jayahn | 15:01 |
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| portdirect | o/ | 15:01 |
| gmmaha | o/ | 15:01 |
| jgu__ | 0/ | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | Alright | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Use Case for external Ceph Cluster | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Use Case for external Ceph Cluster (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:02 | |
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| jayahn | we heard from the previous meeting. :) | 15:02 |
| jayahn | did PS on document, it might need to fix some of English, and reviews from you guys. | 15:03 |
| mattmceuen | Jaesang gave us a patchset for documenting external ceph -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586992/ | 15:03 |
| mattmceuen | I have not taken a look yet, but will! | 15:03 |
| jayahn | pls give us review.. will follow up. | 15:03 |
| anticw | i think the idea is sound, how much testing have we done for that? do we want/need a gate for it? | 15:03 |
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| anticw | it's documentation + 1 optional gate script at present right? | 15:04 |
| portdirect | anticw: it would be nice to get it gated for sure | 15:04 |
| jgu__ | jayahn: nice, will review too. | 15:04 |
| portdirect | but i think that could follow? | 15:04 |
| jayahn | gate script.. need an existing ceph cluster. | 15:04 |
| lamt | o/ | 15:04 |
| portdirect | you could use a helm deployed one | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | That's a really good idea | 15:05 |
| jayahn | okie. i htink that is also very doable, | 15:05 |
| anticw | ok, follow-up works for me | 15:05 |
| portdirect | and just do all the setup manually for openstack, rather than deploy the helper chart | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | Doc + Gate > Doc :) | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | And the hard part is done already | 15:05 |
| portdirect | but Doc > no doc :) | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | but No Doc > Dental Work | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | Moving on | 15:06 |
| anticw | when i scanned it earlier i didn't see anything about which ports are required | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | Sorry, I don't follow anticw | 15:07 |
| anticw | np, i comment in the PS .. you can move on | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | Ok cool - thanks dude | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Rally Test Followup | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rally Test Followup (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:07 | |
| mattmceuen | Go for it jayahn ! | 15:07 |
| jayahn | nothing more than what I wrote. | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582463/ >> Add rally test gate. | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586783/ >> Upgrade rally to 1.2.0, and test scenario cleanup | 15:08 |
| jayahn | did rally test gating job, and upgraded rally to the most recent one, and clean up the scenairo | 15:08 |
| jayahn | pls review, and let us know if there is more followup works necessary. | 15:09 |
| srwilkers | nice. | 15:09 |
| srwilkers | im going to kick the tires on this today | 15:09 |
| anticw | i see one of the gate runs exploded, rabbitmq ? | 15:09 |
| portdirect | yeah - I'd really like to see it pass once before we merge :( | 15:10 |
| srwilkers | ive noticed the rabbitmq tests via armada have been a bit shaky | 15:10 |
| srwilkers | to the point ive disabled them locally | 15:10 |
| portdirect | on the other one, looks great - though wehere does that image come from? | 15:10 |
| anticw | http://logs.openstack.org/63/582463/7/check/openstack-helm-armada-fullstack-deploy/2c4dbd0/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-07-27_01_49_32_386805 (for reference) | 15:10 |
| portdirect | whats super werid about these it when you look at the log, it almost loks like the wring image is being used sometimes | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | omy | 15:11 |
| anticw | yeah, i don't really have a strong opinion either way, i would merge as-is :) | 15:11 |
| portdirect | http://logs.openstack.org/63/582463/7/check/openstack-helm-armada-fullstack-deploy/2c4dbd0/primary/pod-logs/openstack/osh-cinder-rabbitmq-test/osh-cinder-rabbitmq-rabbitmq-test.txt.gz | 15:11 |
| anticw | right | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | I'd say we definitely want to see the gate passing first | 15:12 |
| anticw | how about we take this to #openstack-helm and talk about that specific error and why it might be occuring? | 15:12 |
| anticw | i'm assuming once we clear that we can +2 and merge? | 15:13 |
| portdirect | id say so | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | Yep, once we figure that out, sounds good to me | 15:13 |
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| portdirect | to be clear, the whole gate would need to run green | 15:13 |
| anticw | that's the only error i see | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | Anything else on the Rally topic? | 15:14 |
| srwilkers | that gate is also the only one that exercises a rabbitmq-per service, so i'd like to see it pass with the rally changes being added for the sake of sanity and curiosity | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | ++ | 15:16 |
| mattmceuen | #topic FWaaS | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:16 | |
| jayahn | I got the answer. :) | 15:16 |
| jayahn | from etherpad | 15:16 |
| mattmceuen | Yep, just catching up on that now :) | 15:16 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks portdirect | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Calico v2 -> v3 transition | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Calico v2 -> v3 transition (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:17 | |
| mattmceuen | anticw is working toward adapting the OSH-Infra Calico chart to support Calico v3 | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | It will likely be a breaking upgrade of Calico, so I wanted to socialize that among everyone to make sure everyone is aware | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | Any thoughts / concerns, and anything else you'd add to enlighten us anticw? | 15:18 |
| anticw | adding to this ... it looks like in theory it should be possible to upgrade-in-place from 'v1 api' to the current 'v3 api' though testing of that hasn't worked well | 15:19 |
| portdirect | was there a v2? | 15:19 |
| anticw | the newer chart for dev/testing doesn't come with it's owen etcd anymore, and some of the configuration of ipip, mesh, asn, etc has moved from calicoctl config xxx to yaml | 15:19 |
| anticw | no v2 | 15:19 |
| anticw | v2 api only works over ipv5 | 15:19 |
| portdirect | roger | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | so calico v3 uses the k8s etcd? | 15:20 |
| anticw | on the whole 3.1 is cleaner but a bit different ... we have strong reasons to upgrade, we need some of the newer policy stuff and i don't think anyone is really using older calico | 15:20 |
| portdirect | its totally unsupported now afaik? | 15:21 |
| anticw | mattmceuen: for developers is can ... for production the discussion i've had is that we will use a separate etcd | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | excellent | 15:21 |
| portdirect | have you looked into using k8s for state storage (crd?) as opposed to directly hitting etcd? | 15:21 |
| anticw | i don't think mark is here (?) but he commented that from a credentials PoV it would be better to have a separate etcd ... and for larger clusters probably better for load | 15:21 |
| anticw | portdirect: not yet | 15:22 |
| portdirect | that would solve the creds issue | 15:22 |
| anticw | i think for production unless there is a strong reason not-too we would have a separate etcd cluster | 15:22 |
| portdirect | and i think also is recommened for large clusters | 15:22 |
| portdirect | but as long as we have the option of toggle wfm :) | 15:22 |
| anticw | 50+ nodes | 15:23 |
| anticw | so again we need to separate for production but dev/testing doesn't | 15:23 |
| portdirect | thats still small ;) | 15:24 |
| portdirect | big in k8s = 1000 | 15:24 |
| anticw | sure, but people usually partition before that point | 15:25 |
| anticw | ok ... so ... no other questions on that? | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | None here | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks anticw | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Core Reviewers | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Core Reviewers (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:26 | |
| mattmceuen | Take it away portdirect | 15:26 |
| portdirect | it just came to my attention that there is some cw guy in gerrit | 15:26 |
| portdirect | and hes doing really good work | 15:27 |
| portdirect | leading both in reviews | 15:27 |
| portdirect | and direction, eg doing things like calico v3 | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | What is calico v3, I haven't heard of that one | 15:27 |
| portdirect | and also helping out a lot in irc | 15:27 |
| portdirect | he never seems to turn up to the meetings though | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | I will say that many of my most substantial and valuable and thorough reviews have come from that guy | 15:28 |
| mattmceuen | Thank you for the thought portdirect - I will take this into consideration | 15:28 |
| portdirect | mattmceuen: now ive forced your hand, pretty please can we get a mail out on the ml. | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | I said "consideration" | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | I will send out an email :) | 15:29 |
| portdirect | -1 | 15:29 |
| portdirect | :P | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | #topic PS Needing Review | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PS Needing Review (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:30 | |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585982/ >> Fix ceph version check error in jewel version. | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581980/ >> Tempest: change manifests.pvc to pvc.enabled from pvc-tempest.yaml | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580272/ >> Running agents on all nodes | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586954/ >> make it possible to use "node-role.kubernetes.io/ingress: true" as node label | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | In addition to the ones mentioned earlier! | 15:30 |
| jayahn | kudos on "new" core... | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | No kudos! There is a process | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | I consider portdirect to have offered a suggestion | 15:31 |
| jayahn | since that mail will be out while I am sleeping. | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | Potential kudos later? | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | :D | 15:31 |
| jayahn | I did a bit earlier. | 15:31 |
| jayahn | :D | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | We did a good job getting some stuck reviews unstuck last time | 15:32 |
| jayahn | i know. thanks everyone. | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | Let's get some eyeballs on these PS today or tomorrow! | 15:32 |
| srwilkers | would still like some eyes and thoughtful feedback on this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559417/ | 15:32 |
| srwilkers | needs a rebase, but still | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | That's still on my to-play-with list, sorry srwilkers :( | 15:33 |
| anticw | srwilkers: i think for larger self-contained things it'a hard to get eyeballs | 15:33 |
| srwilkers | anticw: yeah, it is. i consider this one pretty important for elasticsearch's long term health | 15:33 |
| srwilkers | as without it, we're stuck with the trashy pvc implementation i introduced originally | 15:34 |
| anticw | well, we want to use s3 for other things as well so it's good to have that | 15:34 |
| srwilkers | yep | 15:34 |
| anticw | other than installation is there anything that needs to be done to test it? | 15:34 |
| anticw | it looks reasonable, the gates seem ok with it ... | 15:35 |
| srwilkers | http://logs.openstack.org/01/572201/12/check/openstack-helm-armada-fullstack-deploy/db2940f/primary/pod-logs/osh-infra/elasticsearch-s3-bucket-ks9lx/create-s3-bucket.txt.gz | 15:35 |
| srwilkers | http://logs.openstack.org/01/572201/12/check/openstack-helm-armada-fullstack-deploy/db2940f/primary/pod-logs/osh-infra/elasticsearch-register-snapshot-repository-dp6qq/register-snapshot-repository.txt.gz | 15:36 |
| srwilkers | im working on getting the docs to a place they're functional, as a lot of the big functional changes across the stack have been introduced save for that one | 15:37 |
| mattmceuen | nice | 15:37 |
| anticw | wfm (even as-is) | 15:37 |
| portdirect | i left a fe wcomments, looks solid from a workflow pov, but a few things could do with cleaning up | 15:38 |
| srwilkers | cool, thanks anticw and portdirect | 15:38 |
| portdirect | once we have that would be great to abstract out to htk | 15:38 |
| portdirect | so other services could benifit from this | 15:38 |
| mattmceuen | good idea | 15:40 |
| mattmceuen | Ok -- | 15:40 |
| anticw | that works as a follow-up | 15:40 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Roundtable | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roundtable (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:40 | |
| mattmceuen | I have one item | 15:40 |
| mattmceuen | As I mentioned in the mailing list, I've decided to pass the PTL baton for the next cycle! | 15:40 |
| mattmceuen | It has been a pleasure working with you all, and I won't be going anywhere | 15:40 |
| jayahn | I just saw the email.. how can I live without you on openstack-helm. :( | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | Aside from focusing on Airship a bit more from a work focus perspective | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | I may get a tshirt that quotes you jayahn! Thank you! | 15:41 |
| srwilkers | jayahn: alcohol | 15:41 |
| jayahn | good one. :) | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | I will still be very active in OSH do not worry | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | That is all from me :) | 15:42 |
| john_W | https://gerrit.mtn5.cci.att.com/#/c/47079/ | 15:42 |
| jayahn | all the people in skt team will have alcohol to overcome this absence. seriously. :) | 15:42 |
| john_W | can i ask to get some eyeballs on a few PS for cloud Core | 15:42 |
| john_W | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577298/ | 15:43 |
| john_W | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577293/ | 15:43 |
| john_W | Tin has been waiting a while for some feedback | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks john_W! | 15:43 |
| john_W | thank you all and Matt - i will certainly miss you | 15:43 |
| anticw | re: readiness checks ... my comment here and also on the PS was i don't think we should be so aggressive | 15:43 |
| anticw | it feel like the cluster will spend more time healthchecking than doing useful work | 15:44 |
| srwilkers | jayahn: are you coming to the denver ptg? | 15:44 |
| gmmaha | thanks for steering this ship through rough waters mattmceuen :) | 15:44 |
| anticw | mattmceuen: thanks for your efforts so far | 15:44 |
| jayahn | srwilkers: not sure. I have to solve a budge problem | 15:44 |
| srwilkers | mattmceuen: bye felicia | 15:44 |
| jayahn | budget | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | thx anticw gmmaha john_W srwilkers :) | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | jayahn d'oh :( | 15:45 |
| jgu__ | could I poke a question if osh already supports external load balancer? I could have missed in the doc or is it some to be added? | 15:45 |
| portdirect | jgu__: we have not done any work with external lb | 15:46 |
| portdirect | either a cloud provider provided one, or things like f5 | 15:47 |
| mattmceuen | Nothing should prevent the work from being done - just noone's done it :) | 15:47 |
| portdirect | simply as far as im aware no one to date has had access to them, or the need | 15:47 |
| jgu__ | we needed to expose the openstack service end points off the cluster ndoes. is there a better way to do that in OSH other than thru external LB? | 15:47 |
| portdirect | but would be nice to have for sure :) | 15:47 |
| portdirect | jgu__: we use the ingress controllers as our lb, from within the cluster | 15:48 |
| jayahn | we also use ingress controllers | 15:48 |
| portdirect | if you set them up as daemonsets on a set of nodes at the edge | 15:48 |
| jayahn | soon, we will get our hands on F5 though. | 15:48 |
| portdirect | then you can direct traffic to them | 15:48 |
| portdirect | recently we added support for using keepalived to create a vip | 15:49 |
| portdirect | which is really nice | 15:49 |
| jgu__ | thanks jayahn and portdirect. is there any pointers how to set up the ingress controller or this purpose? | 15:50 |
| portdirect | if you have the supporting infra - the work cw and alanmeadows did also allows you to set up bgp peering of a vip created on each node to the fabric | 15:51 |
| jgu__ | the charts provisioned the cluster ip for jeystone for example, but the cluster ip or host name is not accessible off the clsuter | 15:51 |
| portdirect | jgu__: this needs some update, and does not include the above methods: https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-helm/latest/install/ext-dns-fqdn.html | 15:51 |
| portdirect | but is a good starting point | 15:51 |
| jgu__ | thanks portdirect! | 15:51 |
| jayahn | https://sktelecom-oslab.github.io/Virtualization-Software-Lab/ExposeService/ >> this is written in Korean, but you can use google translation just to get an idea. :) | 15:52 |
| jayahn | can be supplemental info. | 15:52 |
| mattmceuen | awesome - thanks for the references | 15:52 |
| jgu__ | or I can ask my boss to pay for my Korean language classes. thanks Jayahn | 15:53 |
| jgu__ | :-) | 15:53 |
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| mattmceuen | Any other topics guys? | 15:54 |
| portdirect | korean docs | 15:54 |
| portdirect | jayahn: does docs.openstack.org support korean docs? | 15:54 |
| jayahn | yeah, but not for every project. | 15:54 |
| portdirect | can we get some for osh? :D | 15:54 |
| portdirect | would mean that we could get this done a bitt better | 15:55 |
| portdirect | your blogs have awesome stuff in them | 15:55 |
| portdirect | we could use the english speakers here to to the tx to english | 15:55 |
| portdirect | if we get the content in gerrit | 15:55 |
| jayahn | I have tried.. there was some road block on translation side to include osh as a project i18n team can translate.. | 15:55 |
| jayahn | i will check again. | 15:55 |
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| portdirect | if theres anything we can do to unblock | 15:56 |
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| jayahn | I know members from doc / i18n team. I will check. | 15:56 |
| portdirect | we should also get this on the ptg agenda | 15:58 |
| mattmceuen | ++ | 15:58 |
| mattmceuen | K folks, we're about out of time -- any closing thoughts? | 15:58 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks everyone! Great meeting - have a good week | 15:59 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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