Tuesday, 2018-08-14

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mattmceuen#startmeeting openstack-helm15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 14 15:00:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm'15:00
mattmceuenHello everybody15:00
mattmceuen#topic Rollcall15:00
*** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:00
mattmceuenWelcome to ye olde osh team meeting15:00
mattmceuenOur agenda may be found here -- I'll give a couple minutes for folks to add additional topics if they'd like15:00
mattmceuenhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-08-1415:00
srwilkershello15:00
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portdirecto/15:02
mattmceuenAlright let's get started15:05
mattmceuen#topic Congrats to our new PTL15:05
*** openstack changes topic to "Congrats to our new PTL (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:05
mattmceuenCongratulations to portdirect -- he has been voted in as our next leader!15:05
john_WWhoo Hoo!!15:05
portdirectnot so fast mattmceuen - you're still ptl atm15:06
mattmceuenI'm sure I speak for all of us when I say I'm looking forward to working with you as PTL15:06
mattmceuenportdirect and I will be working closely to ensure a smooth transition15:06
* mattmceuen throws PTL hat at portdirect and runs15:06
* mattmceuen juuuuuust kidding15:06
* portdirect as his 1st act declares tuesday helm day, everyone gets a day off work.15:07
mattmceuenHappy helm day everybody.15:07
jamesgucongrats, portdirect!15:07
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portdirectthx guys, honestly following in mattmceuen 's footsteps will be a hard act to follow15:08
portdirectand I'm really looking forward to leaning on his experience15:08
mattmceuenI could go on and on about how qualified portdirect is for this, but since I sit next to him it would just get awkward15:08
portdirectsometimes literally, if i can find him15:08
mattmceuenTY portdirect, and it's been a pleasure and an honor serving as PTL this cycle15:08
srwilkerscue the bromance music15:09
* srwilkers plays a pennywhistle solo15:09
* mattmceuen queasy15:09
portdirecti think the only major change i'd like to see - is moar stickers15:09
mattmceuen#denver15:09
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john_Wlike lethal weapon - all over again15:09
portdirectand also lets try and get the 1.0 release done this cycle15:09
mattmceuen++15:09
evrardjpo/15:09
portdirect^ how many times will we say this15:09
mattmceuenthis time it's for real15:10
portdirecthey evrardjp o/15:10
mattmceuenOk15:10
mattmceuen#topic Galera - where we at15:10
*** openstack changes topic to "Galera - where we at (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:10
mattmceuenTake it away srwilkers15:10
portdirectthats me i think?15:10
srwilkersyeah thats portdirect15:10
portdirect(etherpad is being funny today)15:10
srwilkersi hijacked his color somehow15:10
mattmceuengood work srwilkers15:11
mattmceuenportdirect all you15:11
portdirectso - I've been working away on galera for some time15:11
portdirecttrying to use upstream mariadb image15:11
portdirectand to be honest, it not working out15:11
portdirectwe can do it - but its a super ugly system of bind mounts and gaffer tape15:11
portdirect(duct tape to you yanks)15:11
portdirectas a result, I'd like to build an image with python and the k8s client in it15:12
portdirectas this is honestly the only sane way to do it15:12
portdirectironicly, we started with a similar approach back in 201615:12
mattmceuenwould you base it off the upstream mariadb image, or from scratch?15:13
portdirectare people ok with using an  'osh' mariadb image?15:13
portdirectwould be based off upstream i think15:13
evrardjpportdirect: that's more thing to carry15:13
portdirectand then i'd try and push those changes up there15:13
portdirectevrardjp: i know :(15:13
evrardjpportdirect: I am curious if kolla or loci could help out there?15:13
portdirectthis is where loci would actually be great - but I think that convo belongs in the loci channel evrardjp15:13
portdirect++ lol15:13
portdirectmariadb in bindep, kebernetes in python packages15:14
evrardjpI think loci should be restricted to openstack building, but I meant both those tools must have the same issues.15:14
evrardjpsorry for the interruption, go ahead15:14
srwilkersi think rolling a sane image would be a better approach than what we had explored before (something like proxysql)15:14
portdirectwell we have been looking at building infra images with loci15:14
portdirectSamYaple has done most of the groundwork there15:15
srwilkersid rather maintain an image than have something like an extra chart helping out15:15
mattmceuenI suppose it's technical debt either way15:15
srwilkersit is15:15
mattmceuenSo better to do it "right"15:15
portdirectyeah - I feel the overhead of managing an image, and sane chart is less than managing an insane chart...15:15
srwilkerscan confirm: did proxysql chart, was insane15:15
evrardjpagreed there15:15
portdirectok - I'll get a poc up this week - and we can hash it out in gerrit?15:16
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srwilkersportdirect: yep15:16
evrardjpI am fine with that -- please ping for reviews if need be15:17
portdirectwill do15:17
portdirectwould be great to get your eyes on it evrardjp15:17
mattmceuenThanks portdirect, evrardjp15:17
evrardjpportdirect: I will probably eventually need to build images for it, so better know it the earlier, that's not really free : p15:18
evrardjphahah15:18
mattmceuenAny other Galera thoughts before we move on?15:18
mattmceuenok15:19
mattmceuen#topic Do we want to move the weekly team meeting to #openstack-helm ?15:19
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mattmceuenI believe I've heard this is the direction many projects are going15:20
mattmceuenAnd it would be one less chat room to juggle15:20
portdirectim on the fence here15:20
portdirectbut perhaps im just oldskool15:20
mattmceuenWhat's the con, portdirect?15:20
evrardjpif you have no problem with this room and timings, I'd say keep it15:20
portdirectjust noise15:20
mattmceuenI'm fine with it either way15:20
evrardjpyeah -- the more ppl you'll have, the more noise15:20
portdirectand gerrit etc, whats quite nice is being able to chart to evrardjp in three places on diff topics at the same time15:21
mattmceuenahh, gotcha15:21
portdirect*chat - charts on the brain15:21
evrardjpalso different logging15:21
srwilkersyeah.  i like having the meetings here, as it prevents off-topic conversations from popping up during the meeting15:22
mattmceuenYeah, we'd have to set up the meeting bot in #openstack-helm -- sounds like "a little bit of work" plus "not a lot of gain"15:22
mattmceuen#agreed OSH <3 #openstack-meeting-515:23
evrardjpmattmceuen: the meetbot setup is not that hard. But I think it's better to keep things here :)15:23
evrardjpjust my opinion, and it's already agreed anyway!15:24
mattmceuenDo not underestimate my laziness, evradjp15:24
mattmceuen:D15:24
srwilkersa fools folly15:24
mattmceuenAlright moving on:15:25
mattmceuen#topic Is there appetite for an ocata based armada gate?15:25
*** openstack changes topic to "Is there appetite for an ocata based armada gate? (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:25
srwilkersoh hey, this is me15:25
srwilkersi was wanting to see if there was appetite for introducing an armada gate for deploying ocata15:25
srwilkerslargely because i want a gate that shows us running the oslo log fluentd handler/formatter for the openstack services15:26
portdirect^^ YES!15:27
mattmceuenI am starving for an Ocata armada gate srwilkers15:27
srwilkersthis accomplishes two things:  shows how we can use the handler/formatter with our LMA stack instead of relying on fluentbit picking up pod logs, and we can also use it to further refine the filters we run in fluentd (ie: tag specific log level events, remove duplicate entries, throw away tagged events we may not care about)15:27
mattmceuenI think it pairs well with Ocata default images15:27
evrardjpsrwilkers: for the fluentd that's nice :)15:27
portdirectsrwilkers: i thinkl this would be great15:28
portdirectit also shows a clear path to how you can use osh in a more production like way15:28
srwilkerscool -- glad the receptions positive.  been chewing on it for a few days15:28
portdirectwhich we are really lacking atm15:28
srwilkersportdirect: yeah, it does15:28
evrardjpmore gating is always positive when it doesn't block flows of commits15:29
evrardjp:)15:29
srwilkersi also hope to use this as an opportunity to explore using the logging components to gather the logs from this gate, as expanding the filters in fluentd can potentially make this easier15:30
srwilkersso its a win/win in my mind (ie: here's how to use this in a more production oriented way, and here's what the LMA stack can provide you in the form of tangible output as part of the post-run jobs)15:30
srwilkersanyway, that's all i really had15:30
mattmceuenThat's awesome15:31
mattmceuenThe gate scripts are good for learning and testing in isolation, but the armada manifst will be a much more reusable reference15:31
mattmceuenThanks srwilkers15:32
mattmceuenAlright:15:32
mattmceuen#topic PS needing review15:32
*** openstack changes topic to "PS needing review (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:32
mattmceuenHere are a few patchsets that would appreciate some careful scrutiny:15:33
mattmceuen    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591730/ - Elasticsearch ingress15:33
mattmceuen    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581152/15:33
mattmceuen    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543958/ - Prometheus auth to multinode armada15:33
mattmceuenAny others we'd like to add?15:34
srwilkersyeah, one second15:34
srwilkersactually, nevermind15:35
srwilkerswill rebase these and call out in the openstack-helm chat15:35
mattmceuenCool - we can add them retroactively to the agenda in case some folks check there15:35
mattmceuen#topic Roundtable15:36
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mattmceuenAny additional topics all?15:36
mattmceuenOK!15:38
mattmceuenThanks everyone - have a great day and see you back in #openstack-helm15:38
mattmceuen#endmeeting15:38
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