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portdirect | lets give it a few mins for people to turn up | 15:01 |
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mattmceuen | hola! | 15:02 |
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lamt | o/ | 15:03 |
srwilkers | o/ | 15:05 |
srwilkers | sorry im late | 15:05 |
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portdirect | so lets get going :) | 15:06 |
portdirect | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:06 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 25 15:06:33 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:06 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:06 |
jamesgu__ | o/ | 15:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:06 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:06 |
portdirect | so this week is pretty light on the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-09-25 | 15:07 |
portdirect | feel free to add to it :) | 15:07 |
portdirect | #topic rollcall | 15:07 |
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portdirect | o/ | 15:07 |
mattmceuen | o/ | 15:07 |
srwilkers | o/ | 15:07 |
lamt | o/ | 15:08 |
portdirect | #topic Docs Repo | 15:09 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Docs Repo (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:09 | |
portdirect | so I'm a bit behind on this, but I'll be getting a ps up to infra today/tomorrow to kick of the docs repo | 15:09 |
evrardjp | o/ | 15:09 |
evrardjp | great news | 15:09 |
portdirect | and then the work can begin :) | 15:09 |
mattmceuen | nice | 15:10 |
portdirect | jay is not here today but I'm hoping to get another name for the korean editors | 15:10 |
evrardjp | portdirect: did you ask ianychoi ? | 15:10 |
portdirect | and both mattmceuen and srwilkers 's expert eyes will initially take care of the engish side | 15:10 |
evrardjp | he would be great help with the knowledge of korean + zanata | 15:10 |
portdirect | evrardjp: that is an EXCELLENT idea | 15:10 |
portdirect | I'll hound him straight after this | 15:11 |
evrardjp | probably at the end of your day too, as he might be sleeping during those hours | 15:11 |
portdirect | #action portdirect to pester ianychoi about becoming a documentation editor | 15:11 |
mattmceuen | ++ | 15:11 |
portdirect | ok - so i think the path is clear here? any further comments? | 15:12 |
evrardjp | sorry I didn't want to enroll him without asking him, I just mean he could be a great person/asset in this case | 15:12 |
portdirect | evrardjp: all good, I'm just being opportunistic ;) | 15:12 |
portdirect | #topic Gates | 15:14 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Gates (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:14 | |
portdirect | so we have made a tiny bit of progress on the gates | 15:14 |
portdirect | but i wonder if this week we may want to grab some of the low hanging fruit | 15:15 |
portdirect | and without changing the gate too much | 15:15 |
portdirect | get some of the horrible ansible rats nest un check | 15:15 |
evrardjp | so I am sorry on that part | 15:16 |
portdirect | i made a quick wip here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/602682/ | 15:16 |
evrardjp | I said I wanted to work on that this week | 15:16 |
portdirect | evrardjp: no worries dude | 15:16 |
evrardjp | I realise with my upcoming holidays and my current work I couldn't help (yet!) | 15:16 |
portdirect | now your just being mean, what are these holidays of which you speak? | 15:16 |
portdirect | anything else to add on this? | 15:17 |
mattmceuen | If you're visiting saint louis for any reason we have an office + desk you can visit >:-) | 15:17 |
srwilkers | :O | 15:17 |
evrardjp | haha | 15:17 |
portdirect | evrardjp: they told me the same thing. Its a trap! | 15:18 |
evrardjp | I will review this patch and suggest things, but this is indeed a good start | 15:18 |
evrardjp | portdirect: duely noted | 15:18 |
srwilkers | portdirect: i mean, i wasnt going to be the one to say it | 15:18 |
portdirect | ok - move on? | 15:18 |
evrardjp | yup | 15:18 |
evrardjp | oh | 15:18 |
portdirect | #topic Mariadb, the saga continues | 15:19 |
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evrardjp | next time don't hesitate to add me to reviews | 15:19 |
evrardjp | for these kind of things -- and ping. I don't mind :) | 15:19 |
portdirect | will do | 15:19 |
portdirect | so I've finally got round to having a look at the mariadb chart | 15:19 |
portdirect | and ended up pretty much completely redoing it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604556/ | 15:19 |
portdirect | was nice to write my 1st python again in two years | 15:20 |
portdirect | it uses a configmap to store state of the cluster | 15:20 |
srwilkers | its pretty nifty - no complaints thus far | 15:20 |
portdirect | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/e9lXRUCY/ | 15:21 |
portdirect | and ive been hammering it with mysqlslap | 15:21 |
mattmceuen | that's awesome | 15:21 |
portdirect | theres a few more things i need to account for | 15:21 |
portdirect | * setup vars for timers and set sane nyquest ratios between them | 15:22 |
portdirect | * get xtrabackup back up | 15:22 |
portdirect | * deal with potential for split brains (in follow up ps) | 15:22 |
portdirect | * deal with chart upgrade senario | 15:22 |
portdirect | * deal with chart removal and redeploy senario | 15:22 |
portdirect | * add sigterm handler | 15:22 |
portdirect | but i think its ready for some gentle test rides and reviews | 15:22 |
evrardjp | great work | 15:23 |
portdirect | dealing with the potential for split brains will require some work on the proxy infront of the cluster | 15:23 |
portdirect | so i think that will come as a follow up | 15:23 |
portdirect | i know there is a wip on it, but my python is so rusty - feel free to provide any course correction | 15:25 |
portdirect | and with that | 15:25 |
portdirect | #topic open discussion | 15:25 |
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evrardjp | I have a topic for open discussion | 15:27 |
portdirect | the floor is yours | 15:27 |
evrardjp | should we care about reducing the packages installed on host? If I am the only one to care, I can deal with it differently. | 15:28 |
portdirect | evrardjp: we certainly should | 15:29 |
evrardjp | ok | 15:29 |
mattmceuen | for doing the kubeadm-based install / gates, or something else evrardjp? | 15:29 |
evrardjp | I am assuming everywhere we do things on hosts. | 15:29 |
portdirect | ^^ by packages i assume you mean python ones for kubeadm playbooks? | 15:29 |
portdirect | (and the support for them) | 15:29 |
evrardjp | I should not have said packages as this is confusing | 15:29 |
evrardjp | let me rephrase | 15:30 |
evrardjp | In gates we have to do what we have to do -- i.e. setting k8s up, and maybe set storage up with ceph. | 15:30 |
evrardjp | I assume this can be done as "gating" functions, and convenience for users | 15:31 |
evrardjp | so shouldn't the rest be contained, or limited? | 15:31 |
evrardjp | My point would be reducing the writes to /tmp, reducing the pip packages installed, and others I have yet to see | 15:31 |
portdirect | ah gotcha | 15:32 |
evrardjp | if we say it's a guideline of something we must avoid in the future, we can regularily clean things up when something shows up | 15:32 |
portdirect | yeah I hope that improved docs will go a long way towards this | 15:32 |
evrardjp | it has a positive impact on host maintenance and security | 15:32 |
portdirect | as our docs essentially only describe what we do in the gates atm | 15:32 |
evrardjp | correct | 15:32 |
portdirect | and we have nothing that covers a 'production' deployment | 15:32 |
portdirect | I would never deploy OSH as we desribe today in a real senario | 15:33 |
evrardjp | I think that's what gates should be testing :D | 15:33 |
portdirect | agreed - to a point | 15:33 |
evrardjp | that is interesting and I'd like to discuss this in the channel | 15:33 |
portdirect | we need the gates to both cover basic functional testing | 15:33 |
portdirect | and richer ones that bring up realistic deployment | 15:34 |
evrardjp | my point in this open discussion was to know the alignment on the "avoid installing things on host" | 15:34 |
mattmceuen | where "richer" = "bigger"? :) | 15:34 |
portdirect | mattmceuen: not always :) I;m thinking more using armada to decalre the deployment | 15:34 |
evrardjp | portdirect: agreed there -- maybe I should have said testing. | 15:34 |
portdirect | and having things like tls in place | 15:34 |
mattmceuen | gotcha | 15:34 |
portdirect | what im getting out of this | 15:35 |
evrardjp | but we are generally in agreement, so the technical details can go into each review | 15:35 |
mattmceuen | ++ | 15:35 |
portdirect | should we get an etherpad to jot down this, so by next meeting we can dicuss a path forward? | 15:35 |
portdirect | i think we are all aligned, just need to work out how to articulate it | 15:36 |
evrardjp | yeah it doesn't matter it can be in the docs and we'll slowly move towards it, we can keep that in mind in reviews | 15:36 |
portdirect | wfm | 15:37 |
evrardjp | thanks | 15:37 |
portdirect | any other topics? | 15:38 |
portdirect | srwilkers: you scare me when you are quite | 15:38 |
srwilkers | >:) | 15:38 |
portdirect | ok to wrap up | 15:38 |
portdirect | thanks everyone, dont spend the next 21 mins to recklessly | 15:39 |
portdirect | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 25 15:39:17 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-09-25-15.06.html | 15:39 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-09-25-15.06.txt | 15:39 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-09-25-15.06.log.html | 15:39 |
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