Tuesday, 2018-09-25

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portdirectlets give it a few mins for people to turn up15:01
mattmceuenhola!15:02
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lamto/15:03
srwilkerso/15:05
srwilkerssorry im late15:05
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portdirectso lets get going :)15:06
portdirect#startmeeting openstack-helm15:06
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 25 15:06:33 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:06
jamesgu__o/15:06
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm'15:06
portdirectso this week is pretty light on the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-09-2515:07
portdirectfeel free to add to it :)15:07
portdirect#topic rollcall15:07
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portdirecto/15:07
mattmceueno/15:07
srwilkerso/15:07
lamto/15:08
portdirect#topic Docs Repo15:09
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portdirectso I'm a bit behind on this, but I'll be getting a ps up to infra today/tomorrow to kick of the docs repo15:09
evrardjpo/15:09
evrardjpgreat news15:09
portdirectand then the work can begin :)15:09
mattmceuennice15:10
portdirectjay is not here today but I'm hoping to get another name for the korean editors15:10
evrardjpportdirect: did you ask ianychoi ?15:10
portdirectand both mattmceuen and srwilkers 's expert eyes will initially take care of the engish side15:10
evrardjphe would be great help with the knowledge of korean + zanata15:10
portdirectevrardjp: that is an EXCELLENT idea15:10
portdirectI'll hound him straight after this15:11
evrardjpprobably at the end of your day too, as he might be sleeping during those hours15:11
portdirect#action portdirect to pester ianychoi about becoming a documentation editor15:11
mattmceuen++15:11
portdirectok - so i think the path is clear here? any further comments?15:12
evrardjpsorry I didn't want to enroll him without asking him, I just mean he could be a great person/asset in this case15:12
portdirectevrardjp: all good, I'm just being opportunistic ;)15:12
portdirect#topic Gates15:14
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portdirectso we have made a tiny bit of progress on the gates15:14
portdirectbut i wonder if this week we may want to grab some of the low hanging fruit15:15
portdirectand without changing the gate too much15:15
portdirectget some of the horrible ansible rats nest un check15:15
evrardjpso I am sorry on that part15:16
portdirecti made a quick wip here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/602682/15:16
evrardjpI said I wanted to work on that this week15:16
portdirectevrardjp: no worries dude15:16
evrardjpI realise with my upcoming holidays and my current work I couldn't help (yet!)15:16
portdirectnow your just being mean, what are these holidays of which you speak?15:16
portdirectanything else to add on this?15:17
mattmceuenIf you're visiting saint louis for any reason we have an office + desk you can visit >:-)15:17
srwilkers:O15:17
evrardjphaha15:17
portdirectevrardjp: they told me the same thing. Its a trap!15:18
evrardjpI will review this patch and suggest things, but this is indeed a good start15:18
evrardjpportdirect: duely noted15:18
srwilkersportdirect: i mean, i wasnt going to be the one to say it15:18
portdirectok - move on?15:18
evrardjpyup15:18
evrardjpoh15:18
portdirect#topic Mariadb, the saga continues15:19
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evrardjpnext time don't hesitate to add me to reviews15:19
evrardjpfor these kind of things -- and ping. I don't mind :)15:19
portdirectwill do15:19
portdirectso I've finally got round to having a look at the mariadb chart15:19
portdirectand ended up pretty much completely redoing it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604556/15:19
portdirectwas nice to write my 1st python again in two years15:20
portdirectit uses a configmap to store state of the cluster15:20
srwilkersits pretty nifty - no complaints thus far15:20
portdirecthttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/e9lXRUCY/15:21
portdirectand ive been hammering it with mysqlslap15:21
mattmceuenthat's awesome15:21
portdirecttheres a few more things i need to account for15:21
portdirect * setup vars for timers and set sane nyquest ratios between them15:22
portdirect * get xtrabackup back up15:22
portdirect * deal with potential for split brains (in follow up ps)15:22
portdirect * deal with chart upgrade senario15:22
portdirect * deal with chart removal and redeploy senario15:22
portdirect * add sigterm handler15:22
portdirectbut i think its ready for some gentle test rides and reviews15:22
evrardjpgreat work15:23
portdirectdealing with the potential for split brains will require some work on the proxy infront of the cluster15:23
portdirectso i think that will come as a follow up15:23
portdirecti know there is a wip on it, but my python is so rusty - feel free to provide any course correction15:25
portdirectand with that15:25
portdirect#topic open discussion15:25
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evrardjpI have a topic for open discussion15:27
portdirectthe floor is yours15:27
evrardjpshould we care about reducing the packages installed on host? If I am the only one to care, I can deal with it differently.15:28
portdirectevrardjp: we certainly should15:29
evrardjpok15:29
mattmceuenfor doing the kubeadm-based install / gates, or something else evrardjp?15:29
evrardjpI am assuming everywhere we do things on hosts.15:29
portdirect^^ by packages i assume you mean python ones for kubeadm playbooks?15:29
portdirect(and the support for them)15:29
evrardjpI should not have said packages as this is confusing15:29
evrardjplet me rephrase15:30
evrardjpIn gates we have to do what we have to do -- i.e. setting k8s up, and maybe set storage up with ceph.15:30
evrardjpI assume this can be done as "gating" functions, and convenience for users15:31
evrardjpso shouldn't the rest be contained, or limited?15:31
evrardjpMy point would be reducing the writes to /tmp, reducing the pip packages installed, and others I have yet to see15:31
portdirectah gotcha15:32
evrardjpif we say it's a guideline of something we must avoid in the future, we can regularily clean things up when something shows up15:32
portdirectyeah I hope that improved docs will go a long way towards this15:32
evrardjpit has a positive impact on host maintenance and security15:32
portdirectas our docs essentially only describe what we do in the gates atm15:32
evrardjpcorrect15:32
portdirectand we have nothing that covers a 'production' deployment15:32
portdirectI would never deploy OSH as we desribe today in a real senario15:33
evrardjpI think that's what gates should be testing :D15:33
portdirectagreed - to a point15:33
evrardjpthat is interesting and I'd like to discuss this in the channel15:33
portdirectwe need the gates to both cover basic functional testing15:33
portdirectand richer ones that bring up realistic deployment15:34
evrardjpmy point in this open discussion was to know the alignment on the "avoid installing things on host"15:34
mattmceuenwhere "richer" = "bigger"? :)15:34
portdirectmattmceuen: not always :) I;m thinking more using armada to decalre the deployment15:34
evrardjpportdirect: agreed there -- maybe I should have said testing.15:34
portdirectand having things like tls in place15:34
mattmceuengotcha15:34
portdirectwhat im getting out of this15:35
evrardjpbut we are generally in agreement, so the technical details can go into each review15:35
mattmceuen++15:35
portdirectshould we get an etherpad to jot down this, so by next meeting we can dicuss a path forward?15:35
portdirecti think we are all aligned, just need to work out how to articulate it15:36
evrardjpyeah it doesn't matter it can be in the docs and we'll slowly move towards it, we can keep that in mind in reviews15:36
portdirectwfm15:37
evrardjpthanks15:37
portdirectany other topics?15:38
portdirectsrwilkers: you scare me when you are quite15:38
srwilkers>:)15:38
portdirectok to wrap up15:38
portdirectthanks everyone, dont spend the next 21 mins to recklessly15:39
portdirect#endmeeting15:39
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