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| portdirect | o/ | 14:59 |
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| jayahn | o/ | 14:59 |
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| portdirect | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 6 15:00:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| roman_g | o/ | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| lamt | o/ | 15:00 |
| portdirect | lets give it a few mins for people to trickle in | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | o/ | 15:01 |
| jaesang | o/ | 15:01 |
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| evrardjp | o/ | 15:03 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:03 |
| srwilkers | pete's wifi is being dodgy, he'll be back in a moment | 15:04 |
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| evrardjp | give me time to recheck all my meetings timezones. | 15:04 |
| portdirect | ok - i think im back | 15:04 |
| portdirect | lets go ! | 15:05 |
| portdirect | the Agenda for today is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-11-06 | 15:05 |
| portdirect | #topic Images repo | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Images repo (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
| portdirect | so - we are running a bit behind on what we planned to do last week, though it looks like things are moving now :) | 15:06 |
| portdirect | srwilkers is planning on colating the dockerfiles we have todate in this repo this week | 15:06 |
| portdirect | and i know evrardjp has a spec up that we should review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615623/ | 15:06 |
| portdirect | i have quickly gone over it - though have been caught up in production fun this week | 15:07 |
| jayahn | production fun it is.. same here | 15:07 |
| portdirect | following the meeting it's really important we get eyes on this - as I hope it will make osh a lot easier to consume | 15:08 |
| evrardjp | So, my spec here doesn't explain how the multiple distros should happen | 15:08 |
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| portdirect | as well as generally a higher quality product | 15:08 |
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| portdirect | over to you evrardjp | 15:08 |
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| evrardjp | I strongly believe that separating images is better for the project, but it's not without its downsides | 15:08 |
| evrardjp | I think we can overcome them by being careful in our +W reviews | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | I suppose if we agree on the spec here above, we can continue our trajectory with the addition of multiple distros | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | this should give a generic idea of how I intend to do things on multiple distros (but needs to happen after the spec) | 15:10 |
| evrardjp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615571/ | 15:10 |
| evrardjp | please have a look at both | 15:10 |
| evrardjp | thanks | 15:10 |
| portdirect | will do evrardjp | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | thanks evrardjp, will take a look today/tomorrow | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | I am happy to collabore with srwilkers on the dockerfile migration | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | collaborate* | 15:11 |
| srwilkers | works for me | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | that's all I have for now | 15:11 |
| portdirect | ok, so onto the next topic | 15:12 |
| portdirect | #topic Docs repo | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Docs repo (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:12 | |
| portdirect | jayahn: i think this one should be yours? | 15:12 |
| portdirect | again - gettimg some movement before the summit would be great | 15:12 |
| portdirect | even though as we go into berlin, the current documentation will still be the primary source | 15:13 |
| jayahn | well, one thing for sure, jaesang and myself will focus on doc repo running | 15:13 |
| jayahn | however, we need help to initially setup doc building process. not familiar with it yet. | 15:14 |
| portdirect | jayahn: i think lamt and ianychoi would be great there | 15:14 |
| lamt | I have an initial patch set there | 15:14 |
| ianychoi | portdirect, jayahn : oh hello | 15:14 |
| portdirect | if you get a placeholder ps up, we can use that to build out the publisher | 15:14 |
| jayahn | i remember we discussed to make "index" somewhere in the past, should be running that aging. | 15:14 |
| lamt | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614425/ | 15:14 |
| lamt | it is just a basic sphinx structure | 15:15 |
| ianychoi | Sorry I missed #airshipit meeting one hour ago because of a conflict | 15:15 |
| jayahn | hey, ianychoi | 15:15 |
| lamt | it does have a job that build the docs though | 15:15 |
| jayahn | lamt: great | 15:15 |
| ianychoi | jayahn, which part would you like to know on doc repo running? I think I can help this | 15:15 |
| jayahn | ianychoi: cloud you please give a bit of your time for us to start this documentation? | 15:16 |
| jayahn | f2f probably for the initial teaching | 15:16 |
| jayahn | I will buy a great lunch | 15:16 |
| portdirect | jayahn: now thats somthing i look forward to! | 15:17 |
| ianychoi | jayahn, thanks seems that a meeting were delayed. How about on this Thursday lunch time? | 15:17 |
| jayahn | ianychoi yeap i can do that | 15:18 |
| evrardjp | portdirect: the lunch? Why am I not surprised? :p | 15:19 |
| jayahn | portdirect: lamt: we need an initial draft to start index proposal. do you have any initial idea? | 15:19 |
| portdirect | gotta keep my physique somehow evrardjp | 15:19 |
| evrardjp | :) | 15:19 |
| evrardjp | jayahn: what do you mean there? | 15:19 |
| jayahn | index proposal means.. how we are going to structure osh documents, right? | 15:20 |
| portdirect | jayahn: maybe your korean index translated would ab a great place to start the conversation there? | 15:20 |
| ianychoi | jayahn, good :) I am on Probation Period as a new employee so I couldn't go to your office area exactly, but our offices are very near. Let's see on this Thursday lunch time! | 15:20 |
| jayahn | portdirect: okay, jaesang, ianychoi, and myself will bring something up | 15:21 |
| jayahn | ianychoi: 20min walk from my office. totally can make it. | 15:21 |
| portdirect | ianychoi: you at skt now? | 15:21 |
| ianychoi | jayahn, sounds great - thanks :) | 15:21 |
| jayahn | nope. ms | 15:21 |
| jayahn | :) | 15:21 |
| ianychoi | portdirect, a different company :) | 15:21 |
| portdirect | nice - hope you have a great time there :) and still have lots of upstream time ! | 15:22 |
| portdirect | we ok to move on? | 15:23 |
| ianychoi | Thanks :) | 15:23 |
| jayahn | yeap | 15:23 |
| ianychoi | +1 :) | 15:23 |
| portdirect | #topic Summit overlap | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit overlap (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:23 | |
| portdirect | so next week theres the summit | 15:23 |
| portdirect | personally i think we should take a one week break on the irc meeting | 15:23 |
| portdirect | though happy to be over-ruled | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | I'm good with a week off | 15:24 |
| jayahn | +1 on a week off | 15:24 |
| portdirect | srwilkers just went to get coffee, but i know hes also in favor of a break | 15:25 |
| jayahn | who's coming to the summit? | 15:25 |
| evrardjp | I am | 15:25 |
| jayahn | great! | 15:25 |
| srwilkers | i will not be | 15:25 |
| jayahn | sad.. | 15:26 |
| roman_g | not coming | 15:26 |
| roman_g | jayahn: are you in Germany? | 15:26 |
| portdirect | mattmceuen, alanmeadows, mark-burnet, and myself will be there from ATT | 15:26 |
| jayahn | right now? nope, however, i will be next week | 15:26 |
| evrardjp | Skipping the meeting is natural :) | 15:26 |
| evrardjp | I mean during event time | 15:26 |
| evrardjp | not the rest :p | 15:26 |
| evrardjp | OMG that's not clear at all. I guess you understood me anyway | 15:27 |
| portdirect | lol | 15:27 |
| portdirect | it does actually bring up a point | 15:27 |
| portdirect | we ok to move on? | 15:27 |
| evrardjp | ok | 15:27 |
| portdirect | #topic Meeting attendance, by core team | 15:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meeting attendance, by core team (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:28 | |
| jayahn | ? | 15:28 |
| portdirect | so I know everyone is very busy, esp at this time of year | 15:28 |
| portdirect | but I think its apparent that we have several cores who have not been able to make the meetings for quite some time | 15:29 |
| portdirect | this is fine as far as im concerned | 15:29 |
| portdirect | but comes with some downsides | 15:29 |
| portdirect | and I'll reach out to these people to see if they can attend more often | 15:30 |
| portdirect | and also encourage them to read the minutes of these meetings | 15:30 |
| portdirect | there have been a lot of parallel efforts recently | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | attendance on the #openstack-helm channel is also low. | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | IMO | 15:30 |
| portdirect | and its resulted in people stepping on each others toes more than we should | 15:31 |
| portdirect | evrardjp: i agree | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 15:32 |
| evrardjp | stepping on each other toes happen in open source projects, but it should not be the rule. Good communication is a general fix, whatever the media is. | 15:32 |
| portdirect | ++ | 15:32 |
| evrardjp | ofc, using IRC channels/ML should be encouraged | 15:32 |
| portdirect | Thats all i got to say on that really | 15:32 |
| evrardjp | thanks for handling that | 15:33 |
| jayahn | +1 on encouraging irc/ml | 15:33 |
| evrardjp | It's not always easy when most of the cores are colleagues. | 15:33 |
| evrardjp | I trust you'll keep an eye on this, and do your best, as usual, portdirect ! :) Don't worry too much! | 15:33 |
| portdirect | ok lets move on | 15:34 |
| evrardjp | agreed | 15:34 |
| portdirect | #topic Forum etherpads | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Forum etherpads (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:34 | |
| portdirect | mattmceuen: your up! | 15:34 |
| mattmceuen | Sorry for delay | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | So! | 15:36 |
| * evrardjp images western movies with the tumbleweed rolling. | 15:36 | |
| mattmceuen | THat's my office evrardjp | 15:37 |
| mattmceuen | We have a wonderful cross team Forum in Berlin on container security topics | 15:37 |
| mattmceuen | I think I've shared this before, but there are many ways to get containerized security wrong, and this forum is for different openstack projects to try to help each other get them right | 15:37 |
| mattmceuen | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-container-security | 15:38 |
| mattmceuen | Please add any topics you'd like to discuss in that forum to the etherpad, and please share it with folks who might be interested in other teams! | 15:38 |
| jayahn | okay, and I will be there | 15:38 |
| mattmceuen | awesome jayahn | 15:39 |
| roman_g | interesting | 15:39 |
| mattmceuen | that's all from me portdirect unless anyone has questions/comments | 15:39 |
| jayahn | it will help me to talk with security team afterwards. thanks. | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | what is the outcome of said discussion? | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | Do we want to document best practices to handle to the openstack security team, or OSH wants to put decisions into some kind of OSH manifesto | 15:40 |
| portdirect | evrardjp: i'd strive for the former if possible | 15:40 |
| mattmceuen | the biggest goal is just helping all the container openstack teams learn from each other, and codifying that in best practices would be an awesome way to capture that for posterity | 15:41 |
| evrardjp | we should invite people from the security SIG then | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | agree | 15:41 |
| evrardjp | I think as long as document said conversation and end up with some 'written' decision on how OSH will do things, this is already a win. | 15:44 |
| evrardjp | After that, it can be used for Security SIG as guidelines | 15:44 |
| jayahn | and any companies after that.. :) | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | really glad you all see it as valuable :) looking forward to it, and your input to the discussion would be really welcome | 15:46 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen: I just pinged triple-o too. | 15:50 |
| evrardjp | let's see how it goes | 15:50 |
| portdirect | evrardjp: nice - i think theres a lot we can learn from each other | 15:50 |
| portdirect | esp at the lower levels | 15:50 |
| portdirect | ok - lets move on | 15:51 |
| portdirect | #topic Review needed | 15:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review needed (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:51 | |
| portdirect | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603971/ >> Service-Proxy: Bring a external endpoint | 15:52 |
| portdirect | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/607822/ >> Fix rally deployment config to rally 1.2.0 | 15:52 |
| portdirect | would bre great to get some eyes on this | 15:52 |
| mattmceuen | thanks for making that connection evrardjp | 15:53 |
| portdirect | #topic parkinglot | 15:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "parkinglot (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:54 | |
| portdirect | anything else we missed this week? | 15:54 |
| evrardjp | deadlines? | 15:54 |
| portdirect | i heard a few woosh by | 15:54 |
| mattmceuen | for anyone just joining us from the USA: due to daylight savings this is an hour "earlier" now ;-) | 15:54 |
| * mattmceuen ba-dum-ching | 15:55 | |
| portdirect | thats in the eu too | 15:55 |
| evrardjp | I was just joking because I have short deadlines :) | 15:55 |
| mattmceuen | I'm sorry EU | 15:55 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen: haha -- this Daylight saving should be abolished | 15:55 |
| mattmceuen | +1000 | 15:55 |
| evrardjp | or do it EVERYWHERE at the same time | 15:55 |
| portdirect | utc ftw | 15:55 |
| jayahn | EU and US, why you are saving daylight?... | 15:56 |
| evrardjp | utc is nice :) | 15:56 |
| portdirect | we let it back out during summer jayahn | 15:56 |
| evrardjp | jayahn: money | 15:56 |
| jayahn | night fall.. is good. time to go home. time to drink. lol | 15:56 |
| evrardjp | US was for lamp makers :p | 15:56 |
| portdirect | i keep mine in a box in the basement | 15:56 |
| portdirect | and with that - lets end the meeting | 15:57 |
| evrardjp | I will stop making bad jokes | 15:57 |
| portdirect | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 6 15:57:09 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-11-06-15.00.html | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-11-06-15.00.txt | 15:57 |
| evrardjp | thanks | 15:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-11-06-15.00.log.html | 15:57 |
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