Tuesday, 2013-04-23

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SlickNik#startmeeting reddwarf20:59
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 23 20:59:50 2013 UTC.  The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'reddwarf'20:59
cp16nethola20:59
robertmyershello21:00
imsplitb1tgreets21:00
SlickNikhey there folks...21:00
datsun180bhowdy howdy21:00
SlickNik#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/RedDwarfMeeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting21:00
cp16netword21:00
SlickNik#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/reddwarf/2013/reddwarf.2013-04-02-20.59.html21:00
SlickNik#topic Action Items21:00
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juicehello21:00
SlickNikLet's quickly run through action items...21:01
esp1hey21:01
cp16netdoeet21:01
steveleonhello21:01
SlickNikI think Vipul's push is still in progress...21:01
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SlickNik#action Vipul to publish backup API to database-api21:02
SlickNikI got the security groups information pushed to the API docs.21:02
cp16netnice21:02
vipulyup, still need to do that21:02
cp16neti saw that today when i was running over the doc21:02
juicevipul - can do that today21:02
SlickNikCool, thanks vipul…21:03
juiceI can do that today21:03
vipulthanks juice :P21:03
vipuloh21:03
cp16nethaha21:03
vipulw00t, less work for me21:03
vipulthanks!21:03
SlickNikBackupRef vs BackupUUID, not sure about JorgeW, but steveleon had some discussions and I think we're going with backupUUID for now.21:03
SlickNikanything to add steveleon?21:03
steveleonyes21:03
robertmyersbackupID ?21:04
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steveleonbut from the API, we will call it "backup"21:04
steveleonit could be a ref or an UUID21:04
steveleonfor now it is an UUID21:04
robertmyersok21:04
SlickNikyes, robertmyers 'backupId' (which is a UUID)21:04
SlickNiksorry for the confusing nomenclature.21:04
juicedoes any other api use UUID?21:05
steveleonI have made changes in the client and API to use 'backup'...21:05
cp16netjuice: how about all the other apis?21:05
cp16netlol21:05
juiceit would vote for sticking with backupId21:05
juiceno need to get technical :)21:05
steveleonthe UUID will be obtained from it whether it is a UUID or Ref21:05
vipuli think backupId makes sense21:05
vipulno need to explicity state that's it's a uuid21:05
cp16net#agree with ev121:06
steveleonwe'll just use 'backup'21:06
steveleonwe will decide later whether it will contain and ID or a ref URL21:06
juicecp16net it was a rhetorical question :)21:06
cp16netand i am providing the thetoric21:06
cp16net:-P21:06
SlickNiklol, let's move on to the next item.21:07
SlickNikWe have VM gate!21:07
cp16net#action cp16net learn to speeel21:07
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datsun180bhooray21:07
cp16net<321:07
SlickNikVipul, Matty and I have been working on it.21:07
cp16netanything else to add?21:08
SlickNikThere were still some rough edges with the plug-in, but according to Matty they should have been ironed out yesterday.21:08
cp16netother than its working now?21:08
cp16netoh is the recheck not working on reviews now?21:08
SlickNikAh wanted to bring that up...21:08
datsun180bseems you have to mention a bug21:09
datsun180bor "no bug"21:09
SlickNikBasically the CI team changed it.21:09
SlickNikyup datsun180b21:09
cp16netoh ok21:09
SlickNik#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGithub#Test_Failures21:09
cp16netso you have to say recheck #####21:09
SlickNikfor more info.21:09
cp16netok and that will kick off the tox tests as well at the reddwarf vm tests?21:10
esp1cp16net: I think the reddwarf-gate job is still glitch21:10
esp1#link http://rdjenkins.dyndns.org:8080/job/Reddwarf-Gate/21:10
datsun180bno i'm going to own up to the user tests21:11
cp16netok thats helpful21:11
steveleonfake mode text has been failing for me21:11
SlickNikThe user tests there will fail until some of datsun180b's latest changes get merged...21:11
steveleontests*21:11
datsun180byeah, my latest repairs the compatibility that i broke a few weeks ago with the user hostname changes21:12
cp16netyeah you can blame datsun180b21:12
steveleonare the tox tests failures related to datsun180b's fix?21:12
cp16netlikely21:12
datsun180byes, because fake nova changes too21:12
SlickNikSo I guess we need to review those changes and get the tests running clean as soon as possible...21:12
datsun180bYES21:12
esp1k. will yell at datsun180b later :)21:12
SlickNikdatsun180b, can you post a link to the review?21:12
cp16net#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26781/21:12
SlickNiknice, thanks cp16net..21:12
SlickNikAlso, I don't eat skittles :)21:13
SlickNikIs grapex out?21:13
cp16nettaste the rainbow21:13
datsun180batm i'm looking at something strange about the xml serializer but i'm not really certain if it's really a problem or me just being paranoid21:13
cp16neti saw a double rainbow...21:13
SlickNik#action SlickNik to learn how to eat skittles?21:13
djohnstonegrapex is on vacation today21:13
SlickNikgotcha djohnstone...21:14
SlickNikmoving on...21:14
cp16netbut we had some conversations about the notifications with vipul21:14
SlickNikesp1, any update on re-enabling the quota tests w/XML?21:14
esp1that's complete.21:14
vipulcp16net: were you able to sync up with robertmyers on that?21:14
datsun180bgot it!21:14
cp16neti breifly mentioned it21:15
vipuli put some comments on that review btw21:15
cp16netbut we are on the same page21:15
SlickNikSweet… nice work!21:15
robertmyersI just looked at the wiki21:15
vipulif you guys have questions, feel free to bug me or juice21:15
cp16netfor sure!21:15
robertmyersif it is just adding fields it shouldn't be a problem21:15
vipulthere may be some renames.. but you could just to add them as duplicates ot make them work with internal21:16
robertmyerscause we can ignore anything we don't want21:16
vipulyup21:16
robertmyerswe already have a pre-processor21:16
cp16netyeah most of them can be default config values21:16
SlickNikDo you guys want to action anything related to the messages?21:17
robertmyerssure, I'll update my pull request21:17
robertmyers#action robertmyers update notifications21:17
juicerobertmyers: did you see any fields that vipul request that would be an issue?21:17
SlickNiksweet, thanks...21:17
juicerequest/requested21:17
SlickNik#topic Backup Status21:18
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robertmyersjuice: we may have to grab somem info from nova21:18
robertmyersother than that no21:18
juicecoo21:18
cp16netyeah i think its all good21:18
SlickNikI've pulled all the changes from the shared repo we were all working on and have put up a review in gerrit…21:19
robertmyerssweet21:19
steveleonthe client and API backup work awaits for your reviews too21:19
SlickNikIt's still a WIP wrt tests, but I wanted to get more eyes on it.21:19
cp16netsounds good21:19
juicekagan is working on a small change to the segment piece21:19
SlickNikSince it is a big change.21:20
steveleonjenkins and reddwarf didnt like the last patch but i think it is because of datsun180b's stuff21:20
cp16nethahah21:20
datsun180bright21:20
steveleonhaha21:20
steveleoni swear21:20
datsun180bhard to convey that the client and api changes were married21:20
SlickNikThere were a couple of questions kagan had for you robertmyers (regarding the swift streaming upload)...21:20
cp16netyeah that sucks21:20
SlickNiknot sure if he's around.21:20
cp16neti wish there was a way to make the 2 reviews from different projects related21:21
kaganworking on it ...21:21
kaganalmost done i think21:21
vipulcp16net: holy shit yes!21:21
vipulthere has to be a way21:21
SlickNikcp16net: Yeah no good way to do that as yet…21:21
datsun180bThere's dependency relationships but those are typically between patches to the same code21:21
datsun180bI'll try screaming about it more often21:21
SlickNik#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26288/21:21
juicecp16net: you've just hit vipul favorite topic i guess21:21
SlickNik#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27299/21:22
cp16nethahah yeah sounds like it21:22
SlickNik#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27291/21:22
datsun180bIf those failures are createuser then i'm to blame21:22
vipuli'm just happy i'm not the only one that thinks about that21:22
vipullol21:22
cp16netglad we share the same thoughts21:22
juicevipul (be scared)21:22
SlickNikThose are the reviews that need eyeballs — when you guys have a chance.21:22
vipulheh21:22
imsplitb1tvery scared21:22
datsun180bgah, that timeout thing in the rdjenkins jobs is a killer, these consoles are impossible to read21:22
cp16netSlickNik: all reviews need eye balls21:22
cp16net;)21:23
datsun180bbut yeah those failures are because of the hostname changes looks like, i'm sorry21:23
SlickNikcp16net: very true. I meant backup related. :)21:23
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SlickNikAnything else to add related to backups?21:23
vipuleveryone goes quiet at hub_cap enters21:23
datsun180bbest i can say is every verification method i have available short of rdjenkins has given the patch a clean bill of health21:23
cp16netshhhhhh21:24
cp16nethes here.21:24
cp16net:-P21:24
hub_capLol right :) I thought my phone was dorked up21:24
cp16netsounds like we can move on21:24
cp16netfrom the silence21:24
SlickNik#topic Notifications Plan21:24
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steveleonhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/26825/21:24
steveleonas well21:24
cp16netwe covered this a little earlier21:25
SlickNikvipul/robertmyers/juice: you guys were discussing this earlier.21:25
hub_cap#action hub_cap actually start workin on reddwarf again ;)21:25
SlickNikyeah…all good to move on?21:25
robertmyersyes21:25
cp16netsounds good21:25
SlickNik#topic RootWrap21:25
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SlickNikI saw the bp created by hub_cap21:26
hub_capWe should do it. That is all.21:26
imsplitb1tlol21:26
SlickNikBut I don't think we've done anything more wrt this..21:26
SlickNikI guess the first step is pulling it in from oslo?21:26
cp16net#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/reddwarf/+spec/parappa-the-rootwrappah21:26
cp16netthat?21:26
hub_capHahahahah. Yup21:27
datsun180bbarf, that name21:27
cp16netparappa rapper?21:27
SlickNiklol, yeah…the very one...21:27
imsplitb1triddled with details...21:27
hub_capGrapex said that's the best bp name ever21:27
imsplitb1thub_cap: thats because he liked the game I'm sure.  he loves cheesy video games21:27
hub_capX triangle y y21:28
SlickNikI think you're missing an 'h' at the end of 'parappa', hub_cap...21:28
imsplitb1tso what is this?21:28
hub_capGuest using rootwrapper21:28
imsplitb1tthe description is so extensive, it's almost silly that I have to ask21:28
cp16netoh for refguest21:28
vipullol21:29
vipulgotta love bps21:29
hub_capYup21:29
SlickNikIt's basically a way to manage sudo elevation without having "sudo this" and "sudo that" sprinkled all over the refguest...21:29
hub_capHp brought it up. Vipul I think21:29
vipulyea basically shouldn't be doing sudo all over21:29
vipulbetter to have those commands / privileges in code21:30
cp16netok i updated the bp with a little context21:30
SlickNikYup. Gonna keep it in the backlog for now and move on….21:30
imsplitb1tok I'm behind that.  are we borrowing the nova implementation or writing our own?21:30
SlickNikThanks cp16net...21:30
cp16netyeah...21:30
* cp16net was so confused21:30
vipuloslo impl which came from nova i suppose21:30
datsun180bi'm guessing we're borrowing since it's already there21:30
juicemore granular control than what sudoers file gives you21:30
SlickNikimsplitbit: oslo...21:30
imsplitb1tright sorry thats what I meant21:30
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juiceand easier to manage apparently21:30
cp16netcode reuse for the win21:31
SlickNik#topic Need to ensure Quotas works with XML, avoid skipping tests if the Quota tests fails.21:31
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imsplitb1tdef!21:31
SlickNikI think we have this in already, right esp/steveleon?21:31
cp16netesp1: ?21:31
esp1yeah that was covered before I believe.21:32
esp1as far as I know xml tests for quotas have been merged.21:32
SlickNiksweet, let's move on then…21:32
steveleonyup21:32
SlickNik#topic Actions / Action Events21:32
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SlickNikand hub_cap is here!21:33
hub_capheh21:33
hub_capya so ive got things working from a decorator perspective21:33
imsplitb1thub_cap: that was a perfect opportunity for you to log out21:33
hub_capand robertmyers had some awesome update suggestions21:33
hub_capimsplitb1t: did i log out?21:33
robertmyersyes21:33
hub_capso i have to make the changes21:34
hub_capand then fix the tests21:34
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SlickNiksweet…sounds good.21:35
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hub_capi had broken them cuz they didnt drop in anything to the local.store21:35
hub_capand i expect stuff in the local store21:35
hub_capwhere stuff is the action uuid21:35
hub_caphttps://gist.github.com/hub-cap/537436521:35
hub_capthats the basics for what its displaying21:36
hub_capi fixed the time stuff already21:36
SlickNik#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26386/21:36
hub_caphttps://gist.github.com/hub-cap/537496321:36
hub_capso once i get some time ill fix er up21:36
hub_capits quite simple to use.... so, it shoudl be easy to put everywhere21:36
cp16nethub_cap: looks like its coming along really well now21:37
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hub_capyar21:37
SlickNikNice.21:37
hub_capits very close21:37
SlickNikSweet. Let's move on...21:37
hub_capaye21:37
SlickNik#topic Open Discussion21:37
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djohnstoneI have something.  robertmyers and I were having problems with our VM's when using Ubuntu 12.04.2  Instances would be stuck in build forever.  Once we moved back to Ubuntu 12.04 creating instances worked fine.21:38
datsun180bOh that21:38
djohnstoneStill looking at why this is.21:38
robertmyersindeed, I lost of week of my life21:38
cp16netanyone of you guys seen this?21:38
SlickNikdjohnstone - ouch...21:38
hub_cap12.04.2?21:38
datsun180brobertmyers said something about updates to network-manager21:38
robertmyersI just scanned the release notes and that popped out21:39
cp16netwhat version we have running on the ci?21:39
SlickNikI think we've all been using 12.0421:39
SlickNikAnd that's the one running on the CI box as well.21:39
cp16netyeah thats what i have been using locally as wel21:39
datsun180bdjohnstone and i locked ourselves in a conf room for the better part of this morning and built new vms step by step21:39
robertmyerswhatever you do don't upgrade21:39
juicethe disk image builder just states "precise"21:39
juiceI don't think it nails down a specific version21:39
datsun180bi have 12.0.4.1 server 64 and no problems21:39
juiceare you speaking of the host os?21:39
cp16netyes21:40
datsun180bright21:40
juiceah21:40
juiceok thanks for the heads up ;)21:40
esp1datsun180b: yeah that's all I've tried21:40
hub_caprobertmyers: like, hangover style?21:40
esmuteI think it was really cool meeting the Rax guys last week21:40
robertmyersI don't remember anythin21:40
SlickNikJuice: I just checked and the guest instance is 12.04.121:41
cp16net#agreed esmute21:41
imsplitbitrobertmyers: we actually celebrated the fact that you *weren't* there21:41
cp16netit was nice meeting myself21:41
esp1I can try the latest 12.04.2 I guess were going to have to use it someday...21:41
cp16net:-P21:41
datsun180bwell i should hope cp16net thinks meeting rax guys is cool21:41
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juiceI don't know that craig guy was kind of a dick21:41
imsplitbitno just himself21:41
datsun180bthis is on record man21:41
juiceis he on this thing?21:41
cp16netjuice: takes one to know one... :-P21:41
hub_cap#agreed juice21:41
SlickNikYea, it was neat finally putting a face to an IRC nick...21:42
cp16net<3 you guys21:42
datsun180bwell i added to the agenda that i wanted to mention that the hostname things are sort of a stick in the spokes21:42
datsun180bbut we seem to have covered that pretty well already21:42
juice<3 you to cp16net21:42
juiceto/too21:42
SlickNiksorry datsun180b, I didn't refresh the agenda page… ;(21:43
SlickNikBut I'm glad we covered it already.21:43
cp16netwōōt21:43
datsun180bno problem, we talked about it21:43
hub_captwo?21:43
cp16netlast thing i would like to bring up21:43
SlickNikI see there's an update on incubation/openvz as well…21:43
cp16netplease review :)21:43
cp16netyeah i updated that21:44
datsun180byou mean in general? or that one in particular?21:44
datsun180bguess neither interpretation is bad advice21:44
imsplitbitI've applied for stackforge access for the openvz driver as a separate entity21:44
hub_capweak the internet here went from awesome to on par w/ openstack conf21:44
imsplitbitI'm sure that will get denied for some reason... :-)21:45
cp16netlol21:45
hub_caplol nobody gets denied to stackforge imsplitbit21:45
cp16netlets roll the dice imsplitbit21:45
imsplitbitfor sure21:45
imsplitbithub_cap: oh I will21:45
datsun180bfirst time for everything21:45
imsplitbityep21:45
hub_capimsplitbit: can u post the review?21:45
robertmyerswell, to help things along I started on a Horizon dashboard: https://github.com/rmyers/reddwarf-dashboard21:45
cp16netyeah i'd like to see it shared21:45
imsplitbit#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/117159421:45
robertmyerswe can make it flashy21:45
cp16netoh yeha robertmyers has a slick horizon intergration21:46
esp1cool :)21:46
imsplitbitnow thats cool21:46
datsun180bflashy GUIs? what is this, 1986?!?21:46
esmutenice nice21:46
hub_capis ther code for it yet imsplitbit?21:46
imsplitbitrobertmyers is my hero21:46
robertmyersplease test/break it let me know21:46
SlickNikNice robertmyers! Will play around with it...21:46
cp16nethub_cap: vipul you guys could show that off21:46
cp16net:-P21:46
robertmyersworking on backups integration21:46
hub_capimsplitbit: u need to create the group https://launchpad.net/~openvz-nova-driver-core21:46
datsun180bWake me up when we can provision instances with the Lawnmower Man interface21:47
imsplitbitif you really want to be my hero robertmyers you'll create an emacs mode for controlling reddwarf...21:47
juiceI haven't checked out rackspace public cloud yet21:47
juicedo you guys use horizon?21:47
imsplitbithub_cap: the instructions said to file a bug requesting it21:47
SlickNikhub_cap: did you want to update on incubation status?21:47
imsplitbitI was just going through the steps21:47
cp16netjuice: no its different21:47
hub_capimsplitbit: i just did21:47
robertmyersimsplitbit: exercise left for the user21:47
hub_caphttps://launchpad.net/~openvz-nova-driver-core21:47
hub_capdone and done21:47
imsplitbitbah21:47
hub_capnow yer a member21:47
imsplitbitthats what I get for following instructions21:47
hub_capi got u babe... bah bah bah bah21:48
imsplitbitlol21:48
hub_capyer cher, im sonny21:48
datsun180bhaha, now you're a core member! now you have to fix stuff!21:48
* hub_cap goes skiing... oh wait21:48
cp16netok anything else?21:48
hub_capimsplitbit: lets chat offline after21:48
hub_capabout this21:48
imsplitbitsure21:48
SlickNikOkay, I think we're good then… all other conversation to continue in #reddwarf...21:48
imsplitbitok!21:48
SlickNik#endmeeting21:48
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SlickNikthanks all!21:49
datsun180bman, ten till the hour, too! is that a record for us?21:49
cp16netyeah i think so21:49
cp16netthanks SlickNik21:49
datsun180bwe're on fire21:49
robertmyersyay!!21:49
datsun180bback to #reddwarf with us21:49
djohnstoneis that due to hub_cap not leading?21:49
djohnstone:-)21:49
hub_capLOL djohnstone21:49
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