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| vipul | o/ | 21:01 |
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| vipul | anyone here? | 21:01 |
| imsplitbit | o/ | 21:01 |
| cp16net | hola | 21:01 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 21:01 |
| cp16net | 0/ | 21:01 |
| kevinconway | \o/ | 21:01 |
| imsplitbit | cp16net: you got a big head | 21:02 |
| vipul | where is hub_cap? | 21:02 |
| imsplitbit | the dark ages | 21:02 |
| vipul | oh yea! still?? | 21:02 |
| SlickNik | I though he had electricity back yesterday? | 21:02 |
| SlickNik | thought* | 21:02 |
| vipul | i thought that was supposed ot be done last week | 21:02 |
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| imsplitbit | nope this week | 21:02 |
| imsplitbit | tomorrow | 21:02 |
| cp16net | imsplitbit: whats new? | 21:03 |
| cp16net | :-P | 21:03 |
| kevinconway | #action get electricity => hub_cap | 21:03 |
| SlickNik | Feel free to update the agenda items: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/RedDwarfMeeting | 21:03 |
| cp16net | lolz | 21:03 |
| vipul | SlickNik: wanna get this partay started? | 21:04 |
| SlickNik | Sounds good | 21:04 |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 21:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 25 21:04:59 2013 UTC. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 21:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 21:05 |
| SlickNik | #topic Action Items | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items (Meeting topic: trove)" | 21:05 | |
| vipul | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-06-18-21.04.html | 21:05 |
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| SlickNik | thanks Vipul. | 21:05 |
| SlickNik | 1.esmute and SlickNik to look into what happened to devstack-vm-gate integration. | 21:05 |
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| SlickNik | I was mostly busy with the rename changes among other things, so I didn't have much time to look into this. | 21:06 |
| SlickNik | esmute isn't here yet, but I don't think he's made much progress on this front either. | 21:07 |
| SlickNik | Gonna action it again to look into it for this week. | 21:07 |
| vipul | o | 21:07 |
| vipul | whoops | 21:07 |
| vipul | ok | 21:07 |
| cp16net | sounds good | 21:07 |
| SlickNik | #action esmute and SlickNik to look into what happened to devstack-vm-gate integration. | 21:07 |
| SlickNik | 2. juice / vipul to look into how Heat achieves packaging / repo organization for its agent | 21:08 |
| vipul | I haven't had a chance to look into this yet | 21:08 |
| vipul | now that we have the trove renamed, might be logical next thing to split up repos | 21:08 |
| vipul | but will need more time to look into Heat's approach | 21:09 |
| kevinconway | what's the desire to split up trove? | 21:09 |
| esmute | no progress yet on that. | 21:09 |
| vipul | primarily makes packaging easier kevinconway | 21:09 |
| kevinconway | let me rephrase that, what things did you plan to break out of trove? | 21:10 |
| vipul | also easier from a review perspective, to look at code that only effects guest | 21:10 |
| vipul | guest agent | 21:10 |
| SlickNik | kevinconway: only the guestagent | 21:10 |
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| vipul | #action juice / vipul to look into how Heat achieves packaging / repo organization for its agent | 21:10 |
| SlickNik | okay, moving on. | 21:11 |
| kevinconway | so if we decide to split up trove and trove-agent, what is the process for getting the new repo on openstack github? | 21:11 |
| vipul | that part is handled by openstack infra | 21:11 |
| SlickNik | we can get the openstack infra guys to do that for us. | 21:11 |
| vipul | need to send a patch to openstack-ci project, and it takes care of it | 21:11 |
| SlickNik | yup | 21:12 |
| SlickNik | 3. imsplitbit, SlickNik, vipul and others to discuss the replication and clustering API | 21:12 |
| imsplitbit | that didn't happen :) | 21:12 |
| imsplitbit | been busy | 21:12 |
| imsplitbit | I'd like to do that this week tho | 21:12 |
| vipul | let's try to get to it | 21:12 |
| SlickNik | So we had some discussion, but not enough methinks. | 21:12 |
| imsplitbit | I'm out next week getting my knee whittled on | 21:12 |
| vipul | i had a couple of additional items i'd like to bring up | 21:12 |
| vipul | but i can hold them for that conversaion | 21:13 |
| imsplitbit | ok | 21:13 |
| imsplitbit | is tomorrow good for you guys? | 21:13 |
| vipul | Tomorrow it is :) | 21:13 |
| imsplitbit | I'm basically open all day | 21:13 |
| kevinconway | 8:00am? | 21:13 |
| SlickNik | Tomorrow sounds good. | 21:13 |
| SlickNik | PST? | 21:13 |
| vipul | 8am is not cool | 21:13 |
| imsplitbit | sure I'm up and online at 630 CST | 21:13 |
| kevinconway | #agreed Meet tomorrow 8:00am CST | 21:13 |
| imsplitbit | lol | 21:13 |
| SlickNik | heh | 21:13 |
| vipul | 1pst? | 21:14 |
| imsplitbit | as I understand it nothing happens until after 11CST due to pst folks | 21:14 |
| imsplitbit | we have a meeting tomorrow from 3-4pm | 21:14 |
| imsplitbit | cst | 21:14 |
| datsun180b | Well, when you phrase it in terms of CST, yeah | 21:14 |
| imsplitbit | thats all I have going on all day | 21:14 |
| imsplitbit | 11CST? | 21:15 |
| vipul | i get in at 10 pst :p | 21:15 |
| datsun180b | exactly | 21:15 |
| imsplitbit | ahhh | 21:15 |
| imsplitbit | late riser | 21:15 |
| imsplitbit | I'd start working at 4am if they'd let me | 21:15 |
| vipul | we dont' get the sun very much, so makes it easier to sleep in til late :) | 21:15 |
| imsplitbit | ok well then lets do 1pm pst thursday | 21:15 |
| vipul | ok that works | 21:16 |
| SlickNik | I'm fine with 1pm PST Thurs | 21:16 |
| imsplitbit | works for me too | 21:16 |
| kevinconway | 11:00AM CST 1:00PM PST? | 21:16 |
| SlickNik | I think that's 3pm CST | 21:16 |
| imsplitbit | 3pm cst | 21:16 |
| imsplitbit | they're 2 hours behind *us* | 21:16 |
| kevinconway | one of these days i'm going to get this meeting super early | 21:17 |
| imsplitbit | and by *us* I mean those in the civilized state of texas :) | 21:17 |
| robertmyers | ha | 21:17 |
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| kevinconway | #agreed 1pm PST | 21:17 |
| SlickNik | #action imsplitbit, SlickNik, vipul and others to discuss the replication and clustering API at 11a.m. PST / 3p.m. CST on Thursday Jun 27 | 21:17 |
| imsplitbit | done and done | 21:17 |
| imsplitbit | next | 21:17 |
| SlickNik | 4. SlickNik look into publishing to pypi based on tags. | 21:17 |
| SlickNik | So, I looked into this, and it looks like the awesome infra team has hooked us up real good here. | 21:18 |
| SlickNik | Easy publish to pypi based on a tag of the code-base. | 21:18 |
| SlickNik | Right now, the only one allowed to do this is hub_cap. | 21:18 |
| annashen | and git tag will override the version in setup.cfg | 21:18 |
| SlickNik | The permissions are based off of groups in gerrit. | 21:18 |
| annashen | maybe we are talking about diff thing | 21:19 |
| annashen | forget about that | 21:19 |
| * cp16net is confused how many hours are there between PST and CST? | 21:19 | |
| yidclare1 | 2? | 21:19 |
| annashen | 2? | 21:19 |
| SlickNik | annashen: you speak correctly. | 21:19 |
| imsplitbit | cp16net: 2 IIRC | 21:20 |
| cp16net | ok and that action SlickNik said is 4 hours difference | 21:20 |
| annashen | slicknik: thx :) | 21:20 |
| cp16net | lol | 21:20 |
| SlickNik | whoops | 21:20 |
| imsplitbit | ah | 21:20 |
| SlickNik | mistake in action tag. | 21:20 |
| imsplitbit | didn't check that | 21:20 |
| imsplitbit | :) | 21:20 |
| cp16net | as long as you know what the times are :-P | 21:20 |
| grapex_ | We need to get a clock up in the Austin office that's set to PST and labeled "HP Time" so we stop having to think about this. :) | 21:20 |
| cp16net | haha | 21:20 |
| SlickNik | irc://15.185.114.44:5000/#action imsplitbit, SlickNik, vipul and others to discuss the replication and clustering API at 1p.m. PST / 3p.m. CST on Thursday Jun 27 (really) | 21:20 |
| SlickNik | gah | 21:20 |
| vipul | woah | 21:21 |
| cp16net | LOL | 21:21 |
| cp16net | try again | 21:21 |
| SlickNik | #action imsplitbit, SlickNik, vipul and others to discuss the replication and clustering API at 1p.m. PST / 3p.m. CST on Thursday Jun 27 (really) | 21:21 |
| SlickNik | better now? | 21:21 |
| SlickNik | swee | 21:21 |
| SlickNik | t | 21:21 |
| SlickNik | need more coffee :) | 21:21 |
| yidclare1 | HP + hub_cap time | 21:21 |
| imsplitbit | yep | 21:21 |
| grapex_ | We'll get a custom clock from Cafe Press with hub_cap's smiling face on it. | 21:22 |
| SlickNik | So that covers action items. | 21:22 |
| SlickNik | #topic Next Meeting Time | 21:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next Meeting Time (Meeting topic: trove)" | 21:22 | |
| SlickNik | take it away datsun180b! | 21:22 |
| datsun180b | Okay, I closed the poll at http://doodle.com/fvpxvyxhmc69w6s9 | 21:23 |
| vipul | lol and we don't have an unanimous choice | 21:23 |
| vipul | i feared this would happen | 21:23 |
| datsun180b | The resulting winner is 3pmC/1pmP on Wednesday, but it isn't a shutout | 21:23 |
| annashen | what's shutout? | 21:24 |
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| imsplitbit | I'll be the tie breaker | 21:24 |
| grapex_ | datsun180b: Not quite a knock out. | 21:24 |
| datsun180b | a complete victory | 21:24 |
| imsplitbit | 8am monday morning CST | 21:24 |
| grapex_ | imsplitbit: Sounds good! | 21:24 |
| datsun180b | ^^ banned | 21:24 |
| vipul | one way to make these meetings short :) | 21:24 |
| datsun180b | Runner-up is 3pm/1pm Tuesdays, with 13 votes | 21:24 |
| grapex_ | Will Tuesday conflict with an other OpenStack meetings? | 21:25 |
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| SlickNik | hub_cap was mentioning that he'd rather not do Tuesday | 21:25 |
| yidclare1 | per hub_caps comments I think wed is the better option | 21:25 |
| imsplitbit | I thought tuesday was out because of hub_cap's other meetings | 21:25 |
| grapex_ | Does anyone have carrier pigeons or smoke signals we can send to hub_cap to confirm that? ;) | 21:25 |
| datsun180b | Since hub_cap is the missing 14th vote on Tuesday, I'd think so | 21:25 |
| SlickNik | grapex_: yes, it will. | 21:25 |
| imsplitbit | 8am cst mondays it is | 21:25 |
| datsun180b | So then, I ask you, Democratic Process, how do we proceed? | 21:25 |
| grapex_ | Would anyone be broken-hearted if we chose Wednesdays? | 21:26 |
| imsplitbit | :-P | 21:26 |
| yidclare1 | Wed got the most votes | 21:26 |
| imsplitbit | so there you have it | 21:26 |
| SlickNik | we can try asking the reds… | 21:26 |
| datsun180b | Well, is that slot absolutely impossible, reds? | 21:26 |
| SlickNik | (kevinconway, esp, annashen, Riddhi) | 21:27 |
| robertmyers | peer pressure | 21:27 |
| kevinconway | wednesday works for me i guess. | 21:27 |
| annashen | i am fine with wednesday | 21:27 |
| SlickNik | lol@robertmyers | 21:27 |
| Riddhi | me too:) | 21:27 |
| kevinconway | i feel like my vote didn't have the weight it deserved though | 21:27 |
| datsun180b | For the record I'm glad that Vipul asked me to knock the half-hours out | 21:27 |
| kevinconway | every weekday at 12:00pm CST | 21:27 |
| grapex_ | This poll is biased too because it didn't include the weekends | 21:28 |
| datsun180b | kevinconway: if you could convince us all of that what are you doing not running for President | 21:28 |
| SlickNik | okay, in effect next week? | 21:28 |
| robertmyers | new poll | 21:28 |
| vipul | Wednesdays @ 1 PST / 3 CST ? | 21:28 |
| datsun180b | sounds good, would you prefer to make the action # ? | 21:28 |
| SlickNik | yeah, vipul | 21:28 |
| SlickNik | go for it datsun180b, all yours | 21:29 |
| datsun180b | #action Trove meetings now Wednesdays, 3pm C/1pm P | 21:29 |
| grapex_ | Ahhhhh yeeaaaah | 21:29 |
| vipul | datsun180b: plz update the openstack meetings wiki page | 21:29 |
| datsun180b | oh, now you want me to do TWO things?! | 21:29 |
| vipul | can't let you off that easy | 21:29 |
| datsun180b | It's a <Bender> quote, just ask cp16net | 21:30 |
| kevinconway | #agreed | 21:30 |
| SlickNik | okay, moving on? | 21:30 |
| imsplitbit | next | 21:30 |
| SlickNik | #topic Reddwarf -> Trove move | 21:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reddwarf -> Trove move (Meeting topic: trove)" | 21:31 | |
| datsun180b | augh, UTC? Aren't we at -5 during DST? | 21:31 |
| kevinconway | datsun180b: yes | 21:31 |
| datsun180b | danke | 21:31 |
| SlickNik | The rename happened. Thanks hub_cap / datsun180b. | 21:31 |
| datsun180b | Renaming that wiki page too fyi | 21:32 |
| kevinconway | now that we have an official name and official github, can we get on the official project lists | 21:32 |
| SlickNik | I noticed some files still had older name (possibly due to changes merged between when hub_cap made the change and when it actually got merged). | 21:32 |
| vipul | kevinconway: what do you mean? | 21:33 |
| SlickNik | Actually esmute noticed it, thanks! | 21:33 |
| kevinconway | if you don't search for trove you will never find it by looking through openstack docs | 21:33 |
| vipul | hmm i notice we're here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Projects | 21:33 |
| SlickNik | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34459/1 should get the remaining of it. | 21:33 |
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| kevinconway | we should be at the top of the page though, and <h1> at least | 21:34 |
| vipul | #agreed | 21:35 |
| robertmyers | kevinconway: <h1> is asking too much | 21:35 |
| SlickNik | heh | 21:35 |
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| SlickNik | we're on the unofficial list as well. | 21:36 |
| vipul | lol good catch | 21:36 |
| SlickNik | okay, any more discussion regarding the rename? | 21:37 |
| vipul | #action vipul to update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove and remove 'reddwarf' | 21:37 |
| SlickNik | #action SlickNik to check on rdjenkins to make sure it's working okay with the rename | 21:37 |
| kevinconway | #link #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-projects.html | 21:38 |
| vipul | kevinconway: how is that generated? docbook? | 21:38 |
| vipul | we don't have a developer doc, that's probably why we are left out | 21:39 |
| SlickNik | vipul: I think there is a CI-infra job that generates them (per project). | 21:39 |
| SlickNik | I think we still need to set this up for trove. | 21:39 |
| vipul | can you look into it? | 21:40 |
| vipul | #action SlickNik to look into developer docs so we are visible here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove | 21:40 |
| SlickNik | yeah, I was talking to clarkb about it earlier last week, will dig in to it some more. | 21:40 |
| vipul | aah crap, bad link | 21:40 |
| vipul | #action ^^ http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-projects.html | 21:41 |
| SlickNik | cool, thanks for the action. | 21:41 |
| SlickNik | anything else to do with renaming? | 21:41 |
| vipul | i think we good | 21:41 |
| SlickNik | ... | 21:41 |
| SlickNik | okay moving on | 21:41 |
| SlickNik | I think this is left over from last meeting | 21:42 |
| SlickNik | API Validation update | 21:42 |
| SlickNik | #topic API Validation update | 21:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API Validation update (Meeting topic: trove)" | 21:42 | |
| vipul | old news i think | 21:42 |
| SlickNik | Yah, juice completed it and it was merged. | 21:42 |
| SlickNik | so, moving on... | 21:43 |
| SlickNik | everyone's favourite topic... | 21:43 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 21:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: trove)" | 21:43 | |
| vipul | I did want to bring up that we should now probably use the ML more | 21:43 |
| vipul | so wonder if the Clustering stuff is a good candidate for ML discussion | 21:44 |
| SlickNik | +1 | 21:44 |
| vipul | imsplitbit: ? | 21:44 |
| imsplitbit | hai! | 21:44 |
| imsplitbit | ML... | 21:44 |
| vipul | \o | 21:44 |
| SlickNik | mailing list | 21:44 |
| imsplitbit | oh | 21:45 |
| imsplitbit | yes mailing list | 21:45 |
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| kevinconway | do we have one? | 21:45 |
| imsplitbit | good call | 21:45 |
| kevinconway | it's not on launchpad | 21:45 |
| vipul | openstack-dev | 21:45 |
| imsplitbit | I wasn't aware we had one | 21:45 |
| imsplitbit | thats pretty open | 21:45 |
| imsplitbit | my fear would be it would get lost in the noise | 21:45 |
| vipul | right, teams don't have spearate ones | 21:45 |
| imsplitbit | wow | 21:45 |
| imsplitbit | why not? | 21:45 |
| SlickNik | it's at openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org | 21:45 |
| vipul | [trove] in the subject line | 21:45 |
| kevinconway | just title it [Trove] | 21:45 |
| imsplitbit | ah | 21:45 |
| imsplitbit | okie | 21:45 |
| imsplitbit | for sure we can discuss things there | 21:46 |
| imsplitbit | I just find that if you can tie people down for one hour you tend to get more done | 21:46 |
| SlickNik | #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo for subscription info | 21:46 |
| imsplitbit | email arguments can go on for days | 21:46 |
| imsplitbit | I'm not opposed to discussing it there tho | 21:46 |
| vipul | imsplitbit: agreed, but you tend to get a larger audinece | 21:46 |
| datsun180b | imsplitbit: are you related to Snidely Whiplash, tying people down | 21:46 |
| vipul | which is a good and a bad thing | 21:46 |
| vipul | we can definitely discuss #trove, but we're pretty quiet for an incubated project | 21:47 |
| imsplitbit | yeah vipul | 21:47 |
| vipul | on ML that is | 21:47 |
| imsplitbit | ok well lets nail down some details on thurs | 21:47 |
| imsplitbit | then I'll spam the mailing list | 21:47 |
| vipul | ok | 21:47 |
| imsplitbit | with "this is what we're thinking..." | 21:47 |
| SlickNik | sounds good imsplitbit. | 21:47 |
| imsplitbit | kk | 21:48 |
| imsplitbit | I've kept everything in the openstack wiki | 21:48 |
| imsplitbit | so it's all open | 21:48 |
| vipul | nice, hopefully we'll get some good feedback | 21:48 |
| SlickNik | Any other orders of business at hand? | 21:49 |
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| SlickNik | going once | 21:49 |
| SlickNik | going twice | 21:50 |
| kevinconway | $10 | 21:50 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 21:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings (alternate)" | 21:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 25 21:50:16 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:50 |
| vipul | heh wrong game | 21:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-06-25-21.04.html | 21:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-06-25-21.04.txt | 21:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-06-25-21.04.log.html | 21:50 |
| SlickNik | lol @ kevinconway | 21:50 |
| SlickNik | thanks all! | 21:50 |
| imsplitbit | kthxbai! | 21:50 |
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| SlickNik | see you back in #trove | 21:50 |
| SlickNik | #openstack-trove even | 21:50 |
| vipul | ?o | 21:50 |
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