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sarob | #startmeeting training-manuals | 20:01 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 29 20:01:00 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-manuals)" | 20:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_manuals' | 20:01 |
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colinmcnamara | sarob: hello? | 20:01 |
sarob | Just started, right on time | 20:01 |
colinmcnamara | perfect | 20:01 |
sarob | I'm going to run down the agenda unless you have something else | 20:02 |
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colinmcnamara | i'm good with you running down the agenda. I have nothing else | 20:02 |
sarob | #topic update on getting training published to docs.openstack.org | 20:02 |
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colinmcnamara | so, still in progress | 20:03 |
colinmcnamara | I was reading through the jenkins documentation on ci.openstack.org | 20:03 |
colinmcnamara | there is a statement that a release has to be tagged for jenkins/zuul to copy the docs to the site | 20:04 |
colinmcnamara | however, in github there are only releases for major releases (folsom, grizzly, etc) | 20:04 |
colinmcnamara | relevant doc - release section - http://ci.openstack.org/zuul.html#zuul | 20:04 |
sarob | Infra irc channel any help? | 20:05 |
colinmcnamara | that is my next step | 20:05 |
sarob | Sounds good | 20:05 |
colinmcnamara | also to monitor logstash.openstack.org during the next merge | 20:05 |
colinmcnamara | to see what gets pushed where | 20:05 |
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sarob | Good idea | 20:07 |
sarob | Move on? | 20:07 |
colinmcnamara | agreed | 20:07 |
sarob | #topic update on contribution levels publish | 20:08 |
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sarob | I will write this up today | 20:08 |
colinmcnamara | core / community / others? | 20:09 |
sarob | Right | 20:09 |
sarob | #action sarob write up contribution levels on wiki | 20:10 |
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sarob | Moving on | 20:11 |
sarob | #action update on xi:include xpointer | 20:11 |
sarob | Crap | 20:11 |
sarob | #topic update on xi:include xpointer | 20:11 |
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sarob | It looks like the content that xpath walks through using xpointer needs to have a structure defined | 20:12 |
colinmcnamara | in the XML, or in the pom.xml file? | 20:13 |
sarob | With DTD or XMLschema namespace | 20:13 |
colinmcnamara | as in an import statement | 20:13 |
sarob | In the XML that is being pointed to | 20:13 |
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colinmcnamara | so, each item that we are pointing to needs to have an update to succesfuly import it into openstack-training? | 20:14 |
sarob | Which could mean all source XML would have to be modified | 20:14 |
sarob | Right | 20:14 |
colinmcnamara | sounds like that makes identifying the source docs in the users stories doubly important | 20:14 |
colinmcnamara | as well as submitting bugs for each one | 20:14 |
colinmcnamara | do you think this is something that we should also raise up to Anne? | 20:14 |
sarob | I'm going to run some tests this afternoon to verify | 20:14 |
sarob | Maybe | 20:14 |
sarob | I need to get some feedback from someone that has experience with xpath before I go to Anne | 20:15 |
colinmcnamara | I saw the response on the mailing list | 20:16 |
colinmcnamara | is this something that we should be pulling from the external community on? | 20:16 |
sarob | Yup, cause I'd like bypass using namespaces if possible | 20:17 |
sarob | Heavyweight for what we are doing | 20:17 |
colinmcnamara | any open source communities that impliment something like this? | 20:18 |
colinmcnamara | we could phone a friend | 20:18 |
colinmcnamara | or people within Yahoo, PayPal, Apple, etc? | 20:18 |
sarob | #action sarob test and report xpath options | 20:18 |
sarob | I'm going to try yahoo int next | 20:18 |
sarob | Need to find an XML user group next | 20:19 |
colinmcnamara | good idea | 20:19 |
colinmcnamara | possibly java users too | 20:19 |
colinmcnamara | since mvn is key to dependancy management in Java | 20:19 |
colinmcnamara | any java / xml FOSS projects we can leverage experience on, maybe pop over to their IRC? | 20:20 |
sarob | Moving on? | 20:20 |
colinmcnamara | Moving on | 20:20 |
sarob | #topic doc-core team members update | 20:20 |
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sarob | I haven't worked on getting anyone yet | 20:21 |
sarob | How bout you | 20:21 |
colinmcnamara | I've reached out to Mestery and Shannon Mcfaarland | 20:21 |
colinmcnamara | mcfarland was on holiday, just got back in | 20:21 |
colinmcnamara | mestery was in a sprint | 20:21 |
colinmcnamara | I need to get commitments this week | 20:22 |
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sarob | I'm going to troll doc-core | 20:22 |
colinmcnamara | thats smart, get a guru | 20:23 |
colinmcnamara | what was our target membership for Core? 8 right?> | 20:23 |
colinmcnamara | ? | 20:23 |
sarob | I was shooting for 10, thinking we would get half true partipation | 20:23 |
colinmcnamara | ahh cool | 20:24 |
colinmcnamara | then I'll reach out to Cody too | 20:24 |
colinmcnamara | at rackspace | 20:24 |
colinmcnamara | he is working on a couch to openstack program | 20:24 |
colinmcnamara | could tie in | 20:24 |
colinmcnamara | + published the openstack ops guide | 20:24 |
sarob | Sounds good | 20:24 |
colinmcnamara | trying to go after a mix of operators / vendors | 20:24 |
colinmcnamara | I'd love to get Vinay in | 20:25 |
sarob | Ideally | 20:25 |
colinmcnamara | though, he is swamped with PayPal stuff | 20:25 |
sarob | Good mix | 20:25 |
colinmcnamara | maybe you can put a little pressure too | 20:25 |
sarob | Most important firm commitment | 20:25 |
colinmcnamara | agreed | 20:25 |
colinmcnamara | I have lunch at Apple this week btw | 20:25 |
colinmcnamara | I'm going to bring this up with the guys there | 20:25 |
sarob | cool | 20:25 |
sarob | At least get them to use would be good | 20:26 |
colinmcnamara | yup | 20:26 |
colinmcnamara | i'm working on recruiting both Core, as well as community to create / review / etc | 20:26 |
sarob | I gots nothing else | 20:26 |
sarob | Cool | 20:26 |
colinmcnamara | I would be happy to see some of the beta sessions delivered to a mix of operators | 20:26 |
colinmcnamara | I can take a couple days away from my day job to help facilitate | 20:27 |
sarob | Once we get the content out there. I want to blast the community list and user groups for participation. | 20:27 |
sarob | So close | 20:28 |
colinmcnamara | I think we will still have to structure a couple of beta's for instructor delivered content | 20:28 |
colinmcnamara | to kick start a bug squash | 20:28 |
sarob | Lets start brainstorming on that | 20:28 |
colinmcnamara | #action rough out beta format | 20:29 |
sarob | Want to assign an action to yourself? | 20:29 |
sarob | Sweet | 20:29 |
colinmcnamara | sorry, wanted to try the command ;) | 20:29 |
sarob | np | 20:29 |
colinmcnamara | #action rough out beta format : colinmcnamara | 20:29 |
sarob | If nothing else. I'm going run. | 20:30 |
colinmcnamara | one thing | 20:30 |
colinmcnamara | the HP instructor in SF openstack | 20:30 |
colinmcnamara | he may have some good idea's on the beta structure | 20:30 |
colinmcnamara | as well as my friend Joe | 20:31 |
colinmcnamara | he was the CTO of firefly | 20:31 |
sarob | Sure, lets socialize | 20:31 |
colinmcnamara | training.. I am going to start pulling in idea's | 20:31 |
colinmcnamara | other then that, I am find to adjourn | 20:31 |
sarob | Cheers! | 20:32 |
colinmcnamara | Cheers! | 20:32 |
sarob | #endmeeting | 20:32 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 29 20:32:20 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:32 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2013/training_manuals.2013-07-29-20.01.html | 20:32 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2013/training_manuals.2013-07-29-20.01.txt | 20:32 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2013/training_manuals.2013-07-29-20.01.log.html | 20:32 |
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