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sarob#startmeeting training-manuals20:01
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openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 29 20:01:00 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'training_manuals'20:01
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colinmcnamarasarob: hello?20:01
sarobJust started, right on time20:01
colinmcnamaraperfect20:01
sarobI'm going to run down the agenda unless you have something else20:02
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colinmcnamarai'm good with you running down the agenda. I have nothing else20:02
sarob#topic update on getting training published to docs.openstack.org20:02
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colinmcnamaraso, still in progress20:03
colinmcnamaraI was reading through the jenkins documentation on ci.openstack.org20:03
colinmcnamarathere is a statement that a release has to be tagged for jenkins/zuul to copy the docs to the site20:04
colinmcnamarahowever, in github there are only releases for major releases (folsom, grizzly, etc)20:04
colinmcnamararelevant doc - release section - http://ci.openstack.org/zuul.html#zuul20:04
sarobInfra irc channel any help?20:05
colinmcnamarathat is my next step20:05
sarobSounds good20:05
colinmcnamaraalso to monitor logstash.openstack.org during the next merge20:05
colinmcnamarato see what gets pushed where20:05
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sarobGood idea20:07
sarobMove on?20:07
colinmcnamaraagreed20:07
sarob#topic update on contribution levels publish20:08
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sarobI will write this up today20:08
colinmcnamaracore / community / others?20:09
sarobRight20:09
sarob#action sarob write up contribution levels on wiki20:10
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sarobMoving on20:11
sarob#action update on xi:include xpointer20:11
sarobCrap20:11
sarob#topic update on xi:include xpointer20:11
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sarobIt looks like the content that xpath walks through using xpointer needs to have a structure defined20:12
colinmcnamarain the XML, or in the pom.xml file?20:13
sarobWith DTD or XMLschema namespace20:13
colinmcnamaraas in an import statement20:13
sarobIn the XML that is being pointed to20:13
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colinmcnamaraso, each item that we are pointing to needs to have an update to succesfuly import it into openstack-training?20:14
sarobWhich could mean all source XML would have to be modified20:14
sarobRight20:14
colinmcnamarasounds like that makes identifying the source docs in the users stories doubly important20:14
colinmcnamaraas well as submitting bugs for each one20:14
colinmcnamarado you think this is something that we should also raise up to Anne?20:14
sarobI'm going to run some tests this afternoon to verify20:14
sarobMaybe20:14
sarobI need to get some feedback from someone that has experience with xpath before I go to Anne20:15
colinmcnamaraI saw the response on the mailing list20:16
colinmcnamarais this something that we should be pulling from the external community on?20:16
sarobYup, cause I'd like bypass using namespaces if possible20:17
sarobHeavyweight for what we are doing20:17
colinmcnamaraany open source communities that impliment something like this?20:18
colinmcnamarawe could phone a friend20:18
colinmcnamaraor people within Yahoo, PayPal, Apple, etc?20:18
sarob#action sarob test and report xpath options20:18
sarobI'm going to try yahoo int next20:18
sarobNeed to find an XML user group next20:19
colinmcnamaragood idea20:19
colinmcnamarapossibly java users  too20:19
colinmcnamarasince mvn is key to dependancy management in Java20:19
colinmcnamaraany java / xml FOSS projects we can leverage experience on, maybe pop over to their IRC?20:20
sarobMoving on?20:20
colinmcnamaraMoving on20:20
sarob#topic doc-core team members update20:20
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sarobI haven't worked on getting anyone yet20:21
sarobHow bout you20:21
colinmcnamaraI've reached out to Mestery and Shannon Mcfaarland20:21
colinmcnamaramcfarland was on holiday, just got back in20:21
colinmcnamaramestery was in a sprint20:21
colinmcnamaraI need to get commitments this week20:22
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sarobI'm going to troll doc-core20:22
colinmcnamarathats smart, get a guru20:23
colinmcnamarawhat was our target membership for Core? 8 right?>20:23
colinmcnamara?20:23
sarobI was shooting for 10, thinking we would get half true partipation20:23
colinmcnamaraahh cool20:24
colinmcnamarathen I'll reach out to Cody too20:24
colinmcnamaraat rackspace20:24
colinmcnamarahe is working on a couch to openstack program20:24
colinmcnamaracould tie in20:24
colinmcnamara+ published the openstack ops guide20:24
sarobSounds good20:24
colinmcnamaratrying to go after a mix of operators / vendors20:24
colinmcnamaraI'd love to get Vinay in20:25
sarobIdeally20:25
colinmcnamarathough, he is swamped with PayPal stuff20:25
sarobGood mix20:25
colinmcnamaramaybe you can put a little pressure too20:25
sarobMost important firm commitment20:25
colinmcnamaraagreed20:25
colinmcnamaraI have lunch at Apple this week btw20:25
colinmcnamaraI'm going to bring this up with the guys there20:25
sarobcool20:25
sarobAt least get them to use would be good20:26
colinmcnamarayup20:26
colinmcnamarai'm working on recruiting both Core, as well as community to create / review / etc20:26
sarobI gots nothing else20:26
sarobCool20:26
colinmcnamaraI would be happy to see some of the beta sessions delivered to a mix of operators20:26
colinmcnamaraI can take a couple days away from my day job to help facilitate20:27
sarobOnce we get the content out there. I want to blast the community list and user groups for participation.20:27
sarobSo close20:28
colinmcnamaraI think we will still have to structure a couple of beta's for instructor delivered content20:28
colinmcnamarato kick start a bug squash20:28
sarobLets start brainstorming on that20:28
colinmcnamara#action rough out beta format20:29
sarobWant to assign an action to yourself?20:29
sarobSweet20:29
colinmcnamarasorry, wanted to try the command ;)20:29
sarobnp20:29
colinmcnamara#action rough out beta format : colinmcnamara20:29
sarobIf nothing else. I'm going run.20:30
colinmcnamaraone thing20:30
colinmcnamarathe HP instructor in SF openstack20:30
colinmcnamarahe may have some good idea's on the beta structure20:30
colinmcnamaraas well as my friend Joe20:31
colinmcnamarahe was the CTO of firefly20:31
sarobSure, lets socialize20:31
colinmcnamaratraining.. I am going to start pulling in idea's20:31
colinmcnamaraother then that, I am find to adjourn20:31
sarobCheers!20:32
colinmcnamaraCheers!20:32
sarob#endmeeting20:32
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