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| salv-orlando | should there have been a chat on service agents now? | 15:40 |
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| salv-orlando | just asking - if anybody's there | 15:40 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando: I think we were the only one here | 15:47 |
| salv-orlando | so - does this mean there's no interest in service agents and we should not worry about them? | 15:48 |
| salv-orlando | or people on the west coast are still stuck in the traffic? | 15:48 |
| markmcclain | I think it is probably too early for the west coasters | 15:49 |
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| salv-orlando | was it supposed to be a brainstorming chat or was there an agenda? | 15:50 |
| markmcclain | part brainstorming and part how do we combine the variants of the l3 agents we have into one | 15:50 |
| markmcclain | we've now got FW, VPN, and soon metering versions | 15:50 |
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| salv-orlando | so far the direction is that we're moving toward a single, multi-purpose agent? | 15:53 |
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| markmcclain | that's my hunch, but wanted to discuss with everyone | 15:53 |
| salv-orlando | that's in line with the concept of agent as a namespace manager | 15:54 |
| salv-orlando | it's also better to not explode the number of agents for not complicating further deployments | 15:55 |
| markmcclain | agreed | 15:55 |
| salv-orlando | what would be the downsides of a single agent? | 15:55 |
| markmcclain | I think the trick will be coordinating the services | 15:55 |
| markmcclain | ie ensure routes are correct | 15:56 |
| markmcclain | and having the services update the state asynchronously | 15:56 |
| salv-orlando | right. But would that be much easier if each service has its own agent? | 15:57 |
| markmcclain | possibly | 15:58 |
| markmcclain | it really depends on what the flow looks like | 16:00 |
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| SlickNik | o/ | 19:59 |
| SlickNik | oh, a bit early | 19:59 |
| hub_cap | geeeeez SlickNik | 19:59 |
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| SlickNik | what, I was a _whole_ minute early :P | 20:00 |
| KennethWilke | overacheiver | 20:00 |
| esp1 | hehe | 20:00 |
| hub_cap | #startmeeting trove | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 31 20:00:29 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hub_cap. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 20:00 | |
| vipul | o/ | 20:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 20:00 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 20:00 |
| KennethWilke | o/ | 20:00 |
| datsun180b | o/ | 20:00 |
| esp1 | o/ | 20:00 |
| kevinconway | \o | 20:00 |
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| SlickNik | thanks for not leaving me hangin' kevinconway | 20:01 |
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| hub_cap | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 20:01 |
| hub_cap | short meeting | 20:01 |
| hub_cap | #topic action items | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "action items (Meeting topic: trove)" | 20:02 | |
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| SlickNik | the one action item, I still have to work on. | 20:02 |
| grapex | o/ | 20:02 |
| hub_cap | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-07-24-20.00.html | 20:02 |
| SlickNik | Will get that done this week. | 20:02 |
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| imsplitbit | o/ | 20:02 |
| SlickNik | #action SlickNik to change the group for pypi upload | 20:02 |
| hub_cap | lol SlickNik | 20:02 |
| hub_cap | ok done w/ the action items | 20:02 |
| hub_cap | #topic clustering api update | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "clustering api update (Meeting topic: trove)" | 20:03 | |
| hub_cap | imsplitbit: yer on | 20:03 |
| imsplitbit | I've got a clustertype api mocked up | 20:03 |
| imsplitbit | I'm writing the unittests now | 20:03 |
| vipul | sweet | 20:03 |
| imsplitbit | then I'll create some CI tests | 20:03 |
| esp1 | nice | 20:03 |
| imsplitbit | should be done by EOB friday for cluster types | 20:03 |
| KennethWilke | sounds good | 20:03 |
| imsplitbit | then I'll move onto clusters | 20:03 |
| hub_cap | wow this is a stupid short meeting................................................. | 20:03 |
| vipul | what is the first impl? | 20:04 |
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| vipul | mysql replication? | 20:04 |
| imsplitbit | I think we talked about everything over the last few days | 20:04 |
| hub_cap | cassandra vipul | 20:04 |
| SlickNik | imsplitbit: looking forward to seeing it. | 20:04 |
| esp1 | hub_cap: lol | 20:04 |
| vipul | :| | 20:04 |
| konetzed | hub_cap: thought we were supposed to stay on track | 20:04 |
| hub_cap | :P: | 20:04 |
| KennethWilke | lololol | 20:04 |
| hub_cap | LOL | 20:04 |
| imsplitbit | the default clustertype is master-slave it's description is "Master/Slave Replication/Clustering" | 20:04 |
| esp1 | cool so my cassandra db book might get some love soon | 20:04 |
| imsplitbit | but I'll be implementing master slave mysql replication | 20:04 |
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| * hub_cap added a item to the agenda, refresh | 20:05 | |
| hub_cap | ok so next item | 20:05 |
| KennethWilke | do we get to see this beautiful api soon? | 20:05 |
| hub_cap | #topic incubation update | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "incubation update (Meeting topic: trove)" | 20:05 | |
| hub_cap | so i talked w/ the TC | 20:05 |
| hub_cap | and they said that there dont seem to be issues w/ amending to go nosql | 20:05 |
| hub_cap | assuming we push up the POC i published for redis | 20:06 |
| hub_cap | so im doing that today | 20:06 |
| KennethWilke | woohoo, that sounds exciting | 20:06 |
| hub_cap | and they will rule on it next wk | 20:06 |
| SlickNik | are they done with discussion, or discussing again next week? | 20:06 |
| SlickNik | ah, okay | 20:06 |
| hub_cap | but things are looking good | 20:06 |
| vipul | cool | 20:06 |
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| hub_cap | ok any Qs w that? | 20:07 |
| SlickNik | hope that allays some of the concerns mordred may have had. | 20:07 |
| SlickNik | sounds good. | 20:07 |
| hub_cap | yes it does | 20:07 |
| hub_cap | or should | 20:07 |
| hub_cap | #link h3 blueprints | 20:07 |
| mordred | what? | 20:07 |
| hub_cap | oops | 20:07 |
| hub_cap | mordred: we <3 u | 20:08 |
| mordred | w00t! | 20:08 |
| KennethWilke | are there any docs for the clustering api? i know it's a work in progress but i'd like to see what it's looking like so far | 20:08 |
| hub_cap | just talking about nosql+trove mordred | 20:08 |
| hub_cap | yes KennethWilke ask imsplitbit | 20:08 |
| hub_cap | he can send to you | 20:08 |
| KennethWilke | kk will do | 20:08 |
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| * hub_cap dodges and parrys | 20:08 | |
| imsplitbit | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove-Replication-And-Clustering-API-Using-Instances | 20:08 |
| * hub_cap socks mordred with an impervious sheet of paper | 20:08 | |
| vipul | KennethWilke: +1, we had some changes that might not be reflected on the original doc | 20:08 |
| hub_cap | ok moving on? | 20:09 |
| vipul | imsplitbit: i see what you did there | 20:09 |
| hub_cap | #topic h3 blueprints | 20:09 |
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| hub_cap | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/havana-3 | 20:09 |
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| hub_cap | so we have _no_ low blueprints | 20:09 |
| hub_cap | only essential/high/medium | 20:09 |
| hub_cap | core team, lets go thru and deprio any we dont feel are 100% necessary for h3 / havana release | 20:10 |
| hub_cap | ie, SlickNik grapex vipul ^ ^ | 20:10 |
| vipul | I think 3 of those at least have reviews up | 20:10 |
| vipul | but yes, I'll see if anything needs to be lowered | 20:10 |
| hub_cap | if they have reviews up, they should be in "codr review" status | 20:10 |
| hub_cap | *code | 20:10 |
| hub_cap | we need to get better about that | 20:11 |
| hub_cap | and thats everyone. i think you can edit the status of a BP if its assigned to you | 20:11 |
| imsplitbit | brb | 20:11 |
| hub_cap | ok so thats really everything... | 20:11 |
| hub_cap | any Qs on h3? | 20:11 |
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| hub_cap | next is open discusion | 20:11 |
| vipul | when's the deadline | 20:12 |
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| SlickNik | 2013/09/05 | 20:12 |
| SlickNik | is the expected cut, I believe. | 20:12 |
| vipul | cool | 20:12 |
| grapex | hub_cap: Will do. That minor extensions fix (not the topic of the recent meetings, but something unrelated) should be done very soon. | 20:12 |
| hub_cap | remember the deadline is always on the page | 20:12 |
| hub_cap | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/havana-3 | 20:12 |
| vipul | duh | 20:12 |
| hub_cap | ^ ^ "Expected" | 20:12 |
| hub_cap | ya i think it was asked like 2 meetings in a row for h2 lol | 20:12 |
| hub_cap | great grapex | 20:12 |
| hub_cap | #topic open discussion | 20:13 |
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| hub_cap | ok do we have anything we need to discuss? | 20:13 |
| hub_cap | its time now | 20:13 |
| datsun180b | well i've got something | 20:13 |
| SlickNik | I don't have anything. | 20:13 |
| hub_cap | everyone. go. at once. | 20:13 |
| hub_cap | datsun180b: go | 20:13 |
| imsplitbit | :) | 20:13 |
| vipul | SlickNik: can you link the devstack patch | 20:14 |
| datsun180b | concerning https://github.com/ed-/trove-vagrant-vmware and its use outside our very specific env at rax | 20:14 |
| hub_cap | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38169/ | 20:14 |
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| datsun180b | for now, it's built with vmware fusion in mind but should we have more success in say vbox i'd like to gauge interest on adding it into maybe trove-integration as it's proven fruitful for us at rax so far | 20:15 |
| SlickNik | thanks hub_cap | 20:15 |
| vipul | datsun180b: thanks for sharing this! | 20:15 |
| hub_cap | datsun180b: id like to keep it separate | 20:15 |
| hub_cap | id like to see trove-integration get smaller | 20:15 |
| hub_cap | instead of having stuff added to it | 20:16 |
| imsplitbit | +1 | 20:16 |
| datsun180b | okay, so then another option is it's simply a fourth component/repo for trove | 20:16 |
| datsun180b | i mean, i love owning it because i can push to master whenever i like, but i'd like more oversight from anyone else that finds it useful | 20:16 |
| hub_cap | are you asking if it should go in the openstack org? | 20:16 |
| imsplitbit | I think theres alot of value there for us at rax but maybe we need to figure out what makes the best general purpose solution | 20:16 |
| datsun180b | no, i'm not going to reach that far | 20:16 |
| hub_cap | im fine w/ you owning it | 20:16 |
| hub_cap | you can always add people you deem necessary to push to the repo | 20:17 |
| datsun180b | the goal is to remove "worked on my box" syndrome | 20:17 |
| hub_cap | def | 20:17 |
| grapex | hub_cap: What about contrib? | 20:17 |
| datsun180b | especially between trovers that don't share a building | 20:17 |
| imsplitbit | I'm def on board with removing that | 20:17 |
| imsplitbit | :) | 20:17 |
| hub_cap | it doesnt belong _in_ the trove codebase grapex | 20:17 |
| kevinconway | +1 datsun180b | 20:17 |
| cp16net | what about a submodule? (oh no!...) | 20:17 |
| hub_cap | LOL | 20:18 |
| cp16net | :-P | 20:18 |
| datsun180b | right, not in the codebase, but it's at least a development tool that should come packaged in specially marked boxes of trove and apple cinnamon trove | 20:18 |
| SlickNik | datsun180b: maybe we should talk on how we can get some more hp'ers to use / contribute to this. | 20:18 |
| hub_cap | the contrib codebase will be gone soon too | 20:18 |
| SlickNik | And I guess I should start with myself. | 20:18 |
| hub_cap | err contrib folder | 20:18 |
| datsun180b | SlickNik: the vbox stuff is skeletal, but the vmware stuff is hand-built | 20:18 |
| hub_cap | i think its great to have, and to advertise on the ML if you'd like. but its not integral to trove | 20:19 |
| datsun180b | agreed wrt not being integral | 20:19 |
| imsplitbit | datsun180b: I'd like to contribute to the vbox stuff | 20:19 |
| imsplitbit | soon | 20:19 |
| hub_cap | just like people have built ones for the rest of the openstack stuff | 20:19 |
| vipul | yea i see devstack is kinda separate too https://github.com/bcwaldon/vagrant_devstack | 20:19 |
| datsun180b | so then i guess the question is, where does it live | 20:19 |
| imsplitbit | after I finish with unittests for clustertype I will need to run a vm to run integration | 20:19 |
| datsun180b | well, answers that question | 20:19 |
| hub_cap | datsun180b: http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2012/10/28/cloudenvy-vagrant-for-openstack/ | 20:20 |
| hub_cap | maybe talk to them | 20:20 |
| datsun180b | so final answer, i get to remain as emperor of my tiny planet | 20:20 |
| vipul | unless vagrant has some community repo or something | 20:21 |
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| hub_cap | it doesnt vipul | 20:21 |
| hub_cap | its always been "outside" the reach of openstack itself | 20:21 |
| SlickNik | not that I'm aware of. | 20:21 |
| datsun180b | i built that vmware box myself | 20:21 |
| vipul | http://www.vagrantbox.es | 20:21 |
| datsun180b | uh huh | 20:21 |
| hub_cap | datsun180b: id say your best bet is twofold | 20:21 |
| cp16net | vagrant has plugins for anything now | 20:21 |
| hub_cap | 1) search the ML archives for anyone who houses common vagrant repos | 20:22 |
| hub_cap | 2) announce it on the ML if you want to get more people to use it | 20:22 |
| cp16net | you can make it work with openstack/rackspace/hp/amazon | 20:22 |
| cp16net | anything | 20:22 |
| SlickNik | is possible at zombo.com | 20:22 |
| datsun180b | well i know it works with vmware fusion, that's all i'm putting on the sign | 20:22 |
| cp16net | although i would never want to use it with a public cloud... | 20:23 |
| kevinconway | hub_cap: houses vagrants? can you do that? | 20:23 |
| hub_cap | WTF SlickNik | 20:23 |
| kevinconway | are they still vagrants at that point? | 20:23 |
| hub_cap | as in, the configs etc | 20:23 |
| hub_cap | like his code | 20:23 |
| hub_cap | not the boxes | 20:23 |
| hub_cap | like a common codebase for it so he doesnt have to own it kevinconway | 20:23 |
| kevinconway | vagrant: Noun | 20:23 |
| kevinconway | A person without a settled home or regular work who wanders from place to place and lives by begging. | 20:23 |
| esp1 | SlickNik: did you just rickroll us? | 20:24 |
| hub_cap | LOL kevinconway | 20:24 |
| hub_cap | nice | 20:24 |
| SlickNik | lol, nice | 20:24 |
| hub_cap | esp1: yes yes he did | 20:24 |
| SlickNik | esp1: sorry, after what cp16net said, it was too tempting. | 20:24 |
| esp1 | damn, I always fall for those. | 20:24 |
| hub_cap | so SlickNik whats up w/ devstack? | 20:25 |
| hub_cap | yo shiz be abandoned | 20:25 |
| SlickNik | haven't had a chance to work on it last week. | 20:26 |
| SlickNik | need to make a couple more changes to split out some of the testing specific configuration. | 20:26 |
| hub_cap | k. still on the radar i assume? itll be nice ot have before we leave incubation | 20:26 |
| SlickNik | Yes, it's def on the radar. | 20:26 |
| hub_cap | great | 20:26 |
| SlickNik | Hope to get to it by end of this week. | 20:26 |
| datsun180b | i guess i've got my work cut out for me if i want to see wider adoption of vagrant for trove then | 20:26 |
| cp16net | SlickNik: lolz | 20:26 |
| esp1 | datsun180b: I'll try it out. seems pretty cool. | 20:27 |
| datsun180b | glad to hear it | 20:28 |
| hub_cap | and for the record, https://github.com/cloudenvy/cloudenvy looks cool too | 20:28 |
| hub_cap | you may look into that datsun180b in your free time ;) | 20:29 |
| esp1 | yep, that look interesting as well | 20:29 |
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| hub_cap | not sure if it still has active development tho lol | 20:29 |
| hub_cap | ok so anything else? | 20:30 |
| datsun180b | i'll keep it in mind | 20:30 |
| KennethWilke | i like the principles there | 20:30 |
| hub_cap | seems similar to vagrant but tied directly to openstack, and looks the keystone ptl + last glance ptl wrote it | 20:30 |
| vipul | uses fabric ? | 20:30 |
| hub_cap | LOL | 20:31 |
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| hub_cap | does it? | 20:31 |
| SlickNik | looks like it | 20:31 |
| KennethWilke | yep | 20:31 |
| hub_cap | https://github.com/cloudenvy/cloudenvy/blob/master/requirements.txt | 20:31 |
| hub_cap | KennethWilke: shouldve used salt right? ;) | 20:31 |
| KennethWilke | on it already :) | 20:31 |
| hub_cap | HAHAHAH | 20:31 |
| vipul | salt FTW! | 20:31 |
| hub_cap | ok so im going to call this | 20:31 |
| KennethWilke | vipul: +1 | 20:31 |
| KennethWilke | ;)_ | 20:31 |
| SlickNik | sounds good | 20:32 |
| hub_cap | before everyone goes salt fabric chef puppet crazy | 20:32 |
| hub_cap | anyone else have anything /useful/ to add | 20:32 |
| hub_cap | going once | 20:32 |
| grapex | Oh my god, thirty minutes left | 20:32 |
| grapex | is this a dream? | 20:32 |
| hub_cap | i know crazy right? | 20:32 |
| hub_cap | #endmeeting | 20:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 31 20:32:55 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-07-31-20.00.html | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-07-31-20.00.txt | 20:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-07-31-20.00.log.html | 20:33 |
| esp1 | thx! | 20:33 |
| cp16net | tty | 20:33 |
| cp16net | thx | 20:33 |
| KennethWilke | gg wp | 20:33 |
| grapex | See you later guys! | 20:33 |
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| grapex | o | 20:33 |
| grapex | I\ | 20:33 |
| jasonb365 | we are not using cfengine? | 20:37 |
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