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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 8 15:00:25 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello everyone | 15:00 |
| bswartz | who do we have? | 15:00 |
| vbellur | bswartz: hey there | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | vbellur: hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | Navneet: hi | 15:01 |
| vbellur | we seem to have dowillia too | 15:01 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:01 |
| Navneet | bswatrz:hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | so I sent out an annoucement yesterday | 15:02 |
| bswartz | it was kind of short notice so I'm not surprised if we don't get many people | 15:02 |
| dowillia | Doug Williams here as well | 15:02 |
| Navneet | dowillia:hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | the story is that many of the names on our list had trademark conflicts and we weren't able to get official approval on any name | 15:02 |
| vbellur | bswartz: ok | 15:02 |
| bswartz | hi dowillia | 15:02 |
| vbellur | Navneet: hi | 15:02 |
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| Navneet | vbellur:hi | 15:03 |
| bswartz | so I have settled on the name "manila" as a working name so we can get unblocked from legal/marketting issues | 15:03 |
| bswartz | we can always change it later if a serious conflict appears | 15:03 |
| vbellur | bswartz: sounds good. I wouldn't mind if this becomes the permanent name :) | 15:03 |
| bswartz | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ManilaMeetings | 15:03 |
| bswartz | Above is the agenda for the meeting | 15:04 |
| vbellur | bswartz: ok | 15:04 |
| bswartz | #topic project plan | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "project plan (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:04 | |
| bswartz | So I posted the project plan we (NetApp) came up with on the wiki as well | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | It is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ManilaProjectPlan | 15:05 |
| vbellur | bswartz: checking that out now | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | I established a github repo using the new name, and I copied a version of cinder containing all of the share-service work we've done so far | 15:06 |
| vbellur | bswartz: the launchpad project is happening? | 15:06 |
| vbellur | bswartz: ok | 15:06 |
| bswartz | Rob Esker created a LP project but I don't think he's done anything with it yet | 15:06 |
| bswartz | Rob Esker is travelling and I need to meet up with him to get control of the LP project so we can start using it | 15:07 |
| vbellur | ok | 15:07 |
| vbellur | what are the next items we want to knock off from the project plan? | 15:08 |
| bswartz | Regarding components to be moved into oslo -- that's a step that would simply the work we need to do, but many of the components that need to move to oslo are owned by others | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | We may want to (in the short term) skip that step and simply get the code working in its current form | 15:08 |
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| vbellur | ok | 15:09 |
| bswartz | we can always go back and move stuff to oslo later | 15:09 |
| dowillia | I think that's a good first step | 15:09 |
| vbellur | yeah, that sounds good to me. | 15:09 |
| bswartz | the main risk to not moving things into oslo early is that we end up with duplicated code that will diverge over time from cinder and/or other projects | 15:09 |
| vbellur | yeah, we can probably open a thread on openstack-dev as to how we can drive changes to oslo. | 15:10 |
| bswartz | we identified 5 areas where it might make sense to move things into oslo | 15:11 |
| dowillia | I'm also expecting some integration with Nova, similar to hypervisor assisted snapshots, depending on our network plumbing model | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | dowillia: absolutely, but that's a bit down the line | 15:11 |
| vbellur | which are the 5 areas? | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | dowillia: we need to start writing down designs for the future work -- in particular the network plumbing | 15:12 |
| bswartz | vbellur: sorry I got distracted | 15:12 |
| bswartz | 1) API server | 15:12 |
| bswartz | 2) Scheduler | 15:12 |
| bswartz | 3) Low level stuff like glue code, conf file management, etc) | 15:12 |
| bswartz | 4) python-*client | 15:13 |
| bswartz | 5) quotas | 15:13 |
| bswartz | And actually I think the conf file management has already largely moved into oslo | 15:13 |
| vbellur | ok, yeah that seems right. | 15:13 |
| bswartz | dowillia: I added network plumbing to the project plan | 15:14 |
| dowillia | Thanks | 15:15 |
| bswartz | dowillia: I have thoughts on what we should do, but all of that is lower priority to getting a working base | 15:15 |
| bswartz | Any other suggestions for changes to the project plan? | 15:15 |
| vbellur | bswartz: seems good to me. | 15:15 |
| bswartz | It's a wiki so you can edit it as needed | 15:15 |
| vbellur | right | 15:15 |
| bswartz | #topic resources | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "resources (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:16 | |
| bswartz | Okay so the next important thing to discuss is who is going to do what | 15:16 |
| vbellur | ok | 15:16 |
| bswartz | NetApp is still working on hiring some developers to help with this | 15:16 |
| bswartz | Navneet may be able to help after the blocks-related projects he's working on are wrapped up | 15:17 |
| bswartz | Are there any volunteers from RedHat who can help in the near term? | 15:17 |
| vbellur | Red Hat is also trying to identify developers to help with this effort. | 15:18 |
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| vbellur | will update you as we have more clarity on this aspect. | 15:18 |
| bswartz | vbellur: should we expect something in the next week or do you think it will take longer? | 15:18 |
| vbellur | bswartz: my expectation is that it will take slightly longer than that. | 15:19 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | well in the absence of resources I expect that things will move slowly for the next week or two | 15:19 |
| vbellur | what are the near term things that we can target? | 15:20 |
| vbellur | adapt cinder to manila? | 15:20 |
| bswartz | items 5 and 6 on the project plan | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | first we need to rip out blocks-stuff | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | then we need to do the global rename and make sure nothing broke as a result | 15:20 |
| vbellur | right | 15:20 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:21 | |
| bswartz | Is there anything else we need to discuss today? | 15:22 |
| vbellur | nothing more from me | 15:22 |
| bswartz | dowillia: I'll work on getting some of the network-plumbing design ideas written up on teh public wiki | 15:22 |
| dowillia | thanks | 15:22 |
| bswartz | you're welcome to do the same (please send me a link if you do) | 15:22 |
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| vbellur | let us send out a early notice for subsequent meetings | 15:23 |
| bswartz | we can discuss that next week, in addition to checking up on resourcing | 15:23 |
| bswartz | vbellur: typically we don't "announce" meetings in a weekly basis | 15:23 |
| vbellur | bswartz: yeah, got that. | 15:24 |
| bswartz | the weekly meeting is established now and we've announced our existence | 15:24 |
| dowillia | I'll also try to get the word out about the meeting. I know a number of others have expressed interest | 15:24 |
| bswartz | perhaps more people will have read the announcement by next week | 15:24 |
| vbellur | right | 15:24 |
| bswartz | we can notify interested parties directly as well | 15:24 |
| Sam__ | Hi, I just got doug's note. I'll try to attend weekly | 15:24 |
| bswartz | Sam__: hello | 15:24 |
| bswartz | we were just wrapping up I think | 15:25 |
| vbellur | Sam__: hello | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | the meeting log should be posted by the bot when the meeting ends so you can go back and read it | 15:25 |
| dowillia | Good timing Sam. Ben was looking for volunteers | 15:25 |
| bswartz | Sam__: are you interested in working on coding? | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | Oh one other thing: I've created an #openstack-manila channel | 15:26 |
| Sam__ | maybe, or I have some other resources here I can provide | 15:26 |
| bswartz | I will be there whenever I'm online if you want to grab me an talk about shared filesystems stuff | 15:26 |
| bswartz | if there's nothing else, I'll wrap up this meeting | 15:27 |
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| vbellur | sounds good | 15:27 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 8 15:27:38 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2013/manila.2013-08-08-15.00.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2013/manila.2013-08-08-15.00.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2013/manila.2013-08-08-15.00.log.html | 15:27 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | the savanna team meeting will be in here in a few minutes | 18:04 |
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| aignatov_ | hi, waiting for it | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | savanna folks, are you here? | 18:04 |
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| mattf | i am | 18:05 |
| ruhe | o/ | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting savanna | 18:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 8 18:05:50 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'savanna' | 18:05 |
| _tmckay | I am not here :) jk | 18:05 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | are there anyone from Hortonworks? | 18:06 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | let's wait for several minutes | 18:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Agenda | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info News / updates | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info Roadmap cleanup / update | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info Action items from the last meeting | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info General discussion | 18:08 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:08 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | the only update from me is that we are working on finalizing conductor module | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | what's about EDP news? | 18:10 |
| tmckayrh | small news, I should have a commit for job origin REST api today, and hopefully database objects tomorrow | 18:10 |
| tmckayrh | maybe implementation of "get" to hdfs early next week... | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckayrh, great! | 18:11 |
| aignatov_ | that's great, tmckayrh | 18:11 |
| tmckayrh | you're too kind :) | 18:11 |
| crobertsrh | I have some dummy skeleton impl done for the EDP UI. I'll be tweaking the forms over the next few days. | 18:11 |
| aignatov_ | I have one question for all edp mates: did we agree to use savanna sql db to store binaries? | 18:11 |
| akuznetsov | for EDP we add a model not it is on review | 18:11 |
| aignatov_ | in Joborigin I mean | 18:12 |
| akuznetsov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40227/ | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | want to ask everyone to split big changes to small ones | 18:12 |
| akuznetsov | also we start working on conductor layer for EDP | 18:12 |
| akuznetsov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40591/ | 18:13 |
| aignatov_ | also I have one patch on the review to creating map-reduce workflow.xml | 18:13 |
| tmckayrh | aignatov_, yes, I think we agreed to look at savanna db storage for binaries to support sites that don't have swift | 18:13 |
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| tmckayrh | aignatov_, I can pursue that first... | 18:13 |
| aignatov_ | great, thx | 18:13 |
| akuznetsov | now we have two workflows one for pig and classic for jar files | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | let's move edp to separated section | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | only news here, please | 18:14 |
| aignatov_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40590/ | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | are there any other updates on edp? | 18:14 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, are there any news about savanna in fedora? | 18:15 |
| mattf | anyone have opinions about giving savanna-api it's own uid/gid? | 18:15 |
| mattf | s/it's/its/ | 18:15 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mm, nope :) | 18:16 |
| mattf | fedora has two options for user/group, you can be added to the setup rpm and have a static id in /etc/passwd|groups, or you can have a dynamic id created when the package is installed. | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, I think static one could be helpful | 18:16 |
| mattf | i'm honestly ambivalent when it comes to using a static uid/gid. the package reviewer would like a static one to go along with other static ids for openstack components. | 18:17 |
| mattf | how would a static one be helpful? | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, no ideas now, just I think that it would be no worse than dynamic ones | 18:18 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, btw have no expertise in areas around this topic | 18:18 |
| mattf | my trajectory is to say we'll be dynamic for now, static if we find a specific need in the future. the fedora folks are sticklers when it comes to handing out static ids. | 18:19 |
| mattf | i do. typically shared files across a network filesystem need static ids. | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, yep, I think it's reasonable, agreed | 18:19 |
| aignatov_ | I think, mattf, you only know the best way how to do that in a right way :) | 18:19 |
| mattf | but the savanna-api service should be able to operate on local files | 18:19 |
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| mattf | in any event. sounds like we're all kinda ambivalent. let's move on. | 18:20 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | yep | 18:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | are there any other updates? | 18:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ok, next topic | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info Roadmap cleanup / update | 18:21 |
| mattf | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Savanna/Roadmap | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we have several discussions about it and decided to update it with bps | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | additionally, we decided to update it by discussions on our weekly irc meetings | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, the question is | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | are there any missed points in bp? | 18:23 |
| rnirmal | so as far as roadmap is concerned I have some comments and concerns about the current api | 18:23 |
| rnirmal | I haven't gotten to documenting it all but want to discuss it sooner rather than later | 18:23 |
| mattf | i'm comfortable w/ the roadmap items for this week. i do think we should keep buckets for the next two releases on the roadmap, e.g. 1.0 and 1.1 since we're working on 0.3 | 18:24 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, yes, I think it'll be good | 18:24 |
| aignatov_ | do we plan to move from 0.3 right to 1.0,1.1? | 18:24 |
| mattf | aignatov_, that's pretty much what the roadmap says | 18:25 |
| aignatov_ | ok)) | 18:25 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I think that it'll be clear in sep-oct, because maybe it'll be better to use icehouse-1, icehouse-2 releases and etc. | 18:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | additionally, I'm proposing the roadmap style update | 18:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | here is a draft of it - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Savanna/RoadmapNew | 18:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | (for only 0.3 section) | 18:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | the contents section will display some main goals and in each section we can add small description and links to bps | 18:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any concerns? | 18:27 |
| mattf | overkill imho. if we have roadmap items link to relevant BPs, we don't necessarily need to list out each sub bullet. | 18:27 |
| jmaron | +1 | 18:28 |
| mattf | i'm a fan of keeping the roadmap as high level highlights, very lightweight | 18:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I mean that we can have a description if it's needed and we'll a place to list links to bps | 18:28 |
| rnirmal | I'd think just having the blueprints marked for a service should be more than enough | 18:29 |
| rnirmal | service/series | 18:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ok, sounds reasonable to keep it lightweight | 18:29 |
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| mattf | ex: Enhanced scalability through scale-out architecture (bp1) (bp2) | 18:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, just list bps under the each item | 18:29 |
| mattf | if there are 5 bps, then have a bp to aggregate | 18:29 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ok, lgtm | 18:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any other comments / thoughts? | 18:30 |
| * mattf shakes | 18:30 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action aignatov to update edp-related part of roadmap (cleanup, add links to bps) | 18:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action slukjanov to update architecture-related part of roadmap (cleanup, add links to bps) | 18:31 |
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| aignatov_ | ok. will do | 18:31 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #info Update roadmap with links to bps, if there are 5 bps, then have a bp to aggregate [ex: Enhanced scalability through scale-out architecture (bp1) (bp2)] | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ok, next topic | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 18:32 |
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| mattf | btw, 5 was arbitrary. use good judgment. | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 1. _crobertsrh create blueprint for EDP Horizon dashboard (since Robert is working on UI part) | 18:33 |
| tmckayrh | crobertsrh, ^^ | 18:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 2. akuznetsov will rename the Job Source Component to Job Origin Component | 18:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 2. tmckayrh will make a blueprint for an uncompiled source code management component | 18:34 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 4. tmckayrh will update sequence diagrams and etherpad to show proper flow and the rename of Job Source Component to Job Origin Component | 18:34 |
| crobertsrh | I did that...looking for link now | 18:34 |
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| tmckayrh | 3 and 4 done | 18:34 |
| aignatov_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/savanna/+spec/edp-savanna-dashboard-ui | 18:34 |
| SergeyLukjanov | guys, if action items was completed, please ack it and publish links (if needed) | 18:34 |
| aignatov_ | my link was from crobertsrh | 18:35 |
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| tmckayrh | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/savanna/+spec/edp-job-build-component | 18:35 |
| tmckayrh | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Savanna/EDP_Sequences | 18:35 |
| crobertsrh | thanks aignatov_ | 18:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | akuznetsov? | 18:35 |
| aignatov_ | if we are talking about corresponding bp | 18:36 |
| aignatov_ | it's here | 18:36 |
| tmckayrh | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/savanna/+spec/edp-job-origin-component | 18:36 |
| aignatov_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/savanna/+spec/edp-job-origin-component | 18:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ok, thanks | 18:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | great, looks like all action items resolved | 18:37 |
| akuznetsov | yes I renamed this blueprint and made correction | 18:37 |
| tmckayrh | ah, I forgot the pound link. Should I repaste? | 18:37 |
| Nadya_ | no | 18:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yep | 18:37 |
| tmckayrh | lol, which is it? | 18:37 |
| aignatov_ | no or yep? :) | 18:37 |
| Nadya_ | ^) | 18:37 |
| tmckayrh | ok, I will repaste.... | 18:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckayrh, please, repost them with #link ... | 18:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckayrh, thx, it's needed to add them to meeting minutes | 18:38 |
| Nadya_ | it is not needed to add #link if message contains http | 18:38 |
| tmckayrh | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/savanna/+spec/edp-job-build-component | 18:38 |
| tmckayrh | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Savanna/EDP_Sequences | 18:39 |
| tmckayrh | for sure then :) | 18:39 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckayrh, thx! | 18:39 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic General discussion | 18:39 |
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| Nadya_ | may I begin? | 18:39 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yes, sure! | 18:39 |
| Nadya_ | I have one question about oozie+hive. Is it the normal case to start hive as a separate service and use it during oozie's workflow running? We have some conserns about it: it is not clear how to run metastore server and is it really needed? Maybe someone has an expertise in it? | 18:39 |
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| Nadya_ | I'm going to send the question on mail-list. but maybe someone is already here :) | 18:41 |
| rnirmal | hmm not sure don't think I've ever tried it without the metastore | 18:41 |
| aignatov_ | Since Oozie already has some Hive libs it may work witout separate hive service | 18:42 |
| aignatov_ | in my opinion) | 18:42 |
| aignatov_ | i may be wrong | 18:42 |
| aignatov_ | anyway we should check it | 18:42 |
| rnirmal | so those are listed as optional components | 18:43 |
| akuznetsov | possible if we deal we external data we should use a external metastore | 18:43 |
| Nadya_ | what is listed as optional? | 18:43 |
| rnirmal | metastore server | 18:43 |
| Nadya_ | really? interesting... | 18:44 |
| Nadya_ | ok. Let's continue discussions in mailing list | 18:44 |
| rnirmal | yep | 18:44 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ok, are there any other questions to discuss? | 18:46 |
| rnirmal | so I wanted to briefly talk about the current api | 18:46 |
| mattf | #idea we should setup a Savanna PTL election | 18:46 |
| mattf | obviously not official w/i openstack, but an elected representative for the savanna community | 18:46 |
| mattf | the person should function as if they were an official openstack ptl, including attending tc meetings etc | 18:47 |
| mattf | thoughts? | 18:47 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, is there any sense to make it before incubation? | 18:47 |
| mattf | for one, well the incubation request needs to specify a ptl | 18:48 |
| SergeyLukjanov | btw tc will be reelected soon and we'll not automatically contain all ptls | 18:49 |
| mattf | we can also follow the standard OS process here and demonstrate our commitment and ability to fit into it | 18:49 |
| SergeyLukjanov | (afaik in sep) | 18:49 |
| Nadya_ | Is it time to choose :)? | 18:50 |
| Nadya_ | or there will be a separate meeting? | 18:50 |
| mattf | if we think it's a good idea. i'm happy to go off and make a proposal for how we'd go about it. | 18:50 |
| IlyaE | +1 for following OpenStack process | 18:50 |
| mattf | i've only lightly reviewed how it has happened in the past, but deciding now is probably not the way to go. | 18:51 |
| IlyaE | I think this is a good idea | 18:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, we can follow the OS-style electing process | 18:51 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, that would be best | 18:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, I mail ttx about it | 18:52 |
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| mattf | is anyone already familiar with how that election process works? | 18:52 |
| aignatov_ | I like the idea to have ptl election | 18:52 |
| rnirmal | nope but we can find out from newly incubated projects like trove | 18:52 |
| rnirmal | mattf: if you're interested talk to hub_cap on #openstack-trove | 18:53 |
| aignatov_ | also we should have core team elecations | 18:53 |
| aignatov_ | *elections | 18:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, I read the doc about elections several days ago and mail ttx about it to ensure | 18:53 |
| hub_cap | heyo | 18:53 |
| IlyaE | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/TieBreaking | 18:53 |
| hub_cap | feel free to chat w me mattf | 18:53 |
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| mattf | hub_cap, will do | 18:53 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, will yuo cc me on the ttx thread? | 18:54 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, ok | 18:54 |
| mattf | sounds like no objections. i'll take the action to come back next week w/ a more formal proposal. | 18:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | hub_cap, please, could we talk about elections after the meeting? | 18:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | in some channel | 18:55 |
| hub_cap | sure i can join your channel, | 18:55 |
| hub_cap | just tell me where to go | 18:55 |
| mattf | we're #savanna | 18:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action slukjanov to prepare ptl / core team elections proposals | 18:56 |
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| mattf | ? | 18:56 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, oops, missed your msg | 18:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action mattf, slukjanov to prepare ptl / core team elections proposals | 18:57 |
| mattf | ok | 18:57 |
| hub_cap | you can #undo things too | 18:57 |
| hub_cap | if you make a mistake | 18:57 |
| hub_cap | and it will remove them so you dont have > 1 of the same #action | 18:58 |
| hub_cap | :D | 18:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | let's try it | 18:58 |
| mattf | how how? | 18:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | hub_cap, could it be done twice? | 18:58 |
| hub_cap | yes | 18:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #undo | 18:58 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x24e7dd0> | 18:58 |
| hub_cap | try it | 18:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #undo | 18:58 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x24e7050> | 18:58 |
| hub_cap | now redo | 18:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action mattf,slukjanov to prepare ptl / core team elections proposals | 18:59 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, imho, it's better if you just assist w/ the proposals | 18:59 |
| rnirmal | nice that's nifty | 18:59 |
| hub_cap | yar | 18:59 |
| mattf | in any event, we've successfully consumed all the time for api discussion. sorry. continue that on #savanna? | 19:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | let's move discussions to #savanna channel | 19:00 |
| mattf | +1 | 19:00 |
| rnirmal | that's fine :) | 19:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info JFYI you can always use openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailing lists and #savanna irc channel to find us and ask your questions | 19:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 19:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 8 19:01:34 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-08-08-18.05.html | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-08-08-18.05.txt | 19:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-08-08-18.05.log.html | 19:01 |
| mattf | ciao | 19:01 |
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| kgriffs | public service announcement: today's Marconi meeting has been postponed | 19:03 |
| kgriffs | until tomorrow | 19:03 |
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| kgriffs | Public service announcement: today's Marconi meeting has been postponed until tomorrow. Likely 1600 UTC (TBD). | 19:04 |
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| kgriffs | Public service announcement: today's Marconi meeting has been postponed until tomorrow. Likely 1600 UTC. | 19:09 |
| kgriffs | s/likely/at | 19:09 |
| kgriffs | Public service announcement: today's Marconi meeting has been postponed until tomorrow. Same channel, but 1600 UTC | 19:09 |
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| markwash | hi glance folks! jbresnah flaper87 iccha nikhil ameade | 20:01 |
| ameade | woo | 20:01 |
| jbresnah | wave | 20:01 |
| markwash | esheffield1 too | 20:01 |
| ameade | iccha is on vacation | 20:01 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 20:01 |
| esheffield1 | o/ | 20:01 |
| markwash | NobodyCam: Hi! | 20:01 |
| ameade | \ / | 20:01 |
| brianr | hello | 20:01 |
| markwash | #startmeeting glance | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 8 20:01:48 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markwash. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 20:01 |
| NobodyCam | hey :) | 20:01 |
| markwash | brianr: hello | 20:01 |
| markwash | let's do a quick item gathering again | 20:02 |
| markwash | since I'm perpetually behind on setting up the agenda | 20:02 |
| markwash | we want to talk about image_service in glanceclient | 20:02 |
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| markwash | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33327/ | 20:02 |
| jbresnah | quota please | 20:02 |
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| markwash | quota, got it | 20:03 |
| jbresnah | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37993/ | 20:03 |
| brianr | new branch for tasks work? | 20:03 |
| zhiyan | sorry, i'm little later. | 20:03 |
| markwash | and revisit where we are on tasks | 20:03 |
| markwash | anything else people want to mention first? | 20:03 |
| markwash | I have to leave a tiny bit early today, probably at 50 minutes past the hour | 20:03 |
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| markwash | NobodyCam: you're here to talk about image_service in glance client, correct? | 20:04 |
| markwash | NobodyCam: or did I make that up somehow | 20:04 |
| NobodyCam | yep. deva cann't make it so you get me :) | 20:05 |
| markwash | cool | 20:05 |
| markwash | #topic image-tools | 20:05 |
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| markwash | background: when cinder broke off from nova, it needed an image service, so it copied it from nova (like most other things) | 20:05 |
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| markwash | now ironic needs a similar service | 20:06 |
| markwash | and it was pointed out that this layer could go in oslo | 20:06 |
| NobodyCam | yes! | 20:06 |
| markwash | but its so close to what is provided in glance client, it could go in glance client as well | 20:06 |
| markwash | Looking through it again, I'd like to propose that we go ahead and put it in oslo rather than glance client, however | 20:07 |
| jbresnah | what exactly is 'image service' here? | 20:07 |
| jbresnah | nova.image.glance.GlanceImageService() ? | 20:07 |
| zhiyan | yes, i think it is | 20:07 |
| markwash | because I feel like the driver for this code is much more the needs of a service like nova and cinder, rather than what glance really is, or how it should be represented | 20:07 |
| markwash | jbresnah: spot on | 20:08 |
| jbresnah | ok cool | 20:08 |
| jbresnah | the name is weird, because it is really a client, but i understand | 20:08 |
| markwash | since this interface to me is bordering on legacy even in nova and cinder, I just don't want to take it on as a maintenance drag for glance client | 20:08 |
| jbresnah | i just added a patch to that which could complicate it a bit | 20:09 |
| markwash | ah indeed | 20:09 |
| jbresnah | it now has a notion of loading download modules | 20:09 |
| markwash | I saw that | 20:09 |
| zhiyan | markwash: what's the oslo folks position for this port? | 20:09 |
| jbresnah | which operate on the 'direct_url' info | 20:09 |
| markwash | zhiyan: :-( I'm not sure | 20:09 |
| jbresnah | and that all comes from entry points under the nova name space... | 20:09 |
| zhiyan | jbresnah: yes, i has one also, you know, image handlers. | 20:09 |
| jbresnah | but it does seem to make sense to me to have this in common code | 20:10 |
| jbresnah | nod zhi, but i dont think that effects this case | 20:10 |
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| jbresnah | zhi: moving the image service | 20:10 |
| jbresnah | markwash: if I have a vote I vote for glance client over oslo | 20:10 |
| zhiyan | jbresnah: if you check his bp, you can see maybe they want to do some port work on 'fetch' functions. | 20:10 |
| markwash | jbresnah: cool, can you go into that some more? | 20:11 |
| jbresnah | markwash: into why i vote that? | 20:11 |
| jbresnah | or into the patch that complicates it a bit? | 20:11 |
| markwash | yeah, elaborating on your position of oslo vs. glanceclient | 20:11 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 20:11 |
| flaper87 | sorry, I'm late | 20:11 |
| jbresnah | well.... if it went into oslo it would be copied into other components | 20:12 |
| jbresnah | (a model i dont like anyway) | 20:12 |
| NobodyCam | markwash: what is the patch that may complicate things | 20:12 |
| jbresnah | and it would have to keep in sync | 20:12 |
| jbresnah | when what it is specifically doing is being a glance client | 20:12 |
| jbresnah | it seems to me that the oslo model of syncing copied code shouldnt apply to clients | 20:13 |
| jbresnah | they are less resource intensive | 20:13 |
| markwash | NobodyCam: I believe it is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37817/ | 20:13 |
| jbresnah | why not just use the client lib? | 20:13 |
| jbresnah | yeah thats it | 20:13 |
| flaper87 | jbresnah: what client lib? Glance service ? | 20:13 |
| jbresnah | NobodyCam: I also have a blog post about it, https://tropicaldevel.wordpress.com/2013/08/07/download-modules-in-nova/ | 20:14 |
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| jbresnah | flaper87: why not put it into pythonglanceclient? | 20:14 |
| zhiyan | NobodyCam: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33409/ potential. | 20:14 |
| markwash | maybe I'm just being picky, but when I see that service interface, it just seems so hacky. . detail() -> returns you a list of images? | 20:14 |
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| markwash | it seems like folks specifically just named the methods after the old v1 http paths | 20:15 |
| jbresnah | markwash: i did not find it natural either | 20:15 |
| flaper87 | jbresnah: I'm a bit lost sorry, catching up. You're talking about moving nova's code into glanceclient ? | 20:15 |
| jbresnah | flaper87: if the other option is to move it to oslo, then yes | 20:15 |
| markwash | it really feels like folks just made something really quick in nova way back in the day | 20:15 |
| markwash | and then it just never changed | 20:15 |
| flaper87 | jbresnah: if it is glance specific, I'm +1 for having it in glance | 20:15 |
| jbresnah | markwash: what? in this industry?! no.... | 20:16 |
| flaper87 | glanceclient, that is | 20:16 |
| jbresnah | ;-) | 20:16 |
| markwash | jbresnah: right :-) | 20:16 |
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| jbresnah | markwash: tech debt | 20:16 |
| markwash | jbresnah: but, bringing tech debt like that into glanceclient implies we have to coordinate its changes with other projects and continue to provide support for it | 20:16 |
| jbresnah | markwash: good point | 20:16 |
| markwash | which is made harder by the fact that it seems to be an interface that is supposed to span versions | 20:17 |
| jbresnah | markwash: but just architecturally | 20:17 |
| markwash | I wish I understood why the projects can't "just use" glanceclient | 20:17 |
| jbresnah | markwash: yeah... thats where i was going too | 20:18 |
| flaper87 | markwash: we just merged the service lib, and I think projects will now be able to just use glanceclient | 20:18 |
| jbresnah | markwash: if the interfaces are broken, then lets fix them | 20:18 |
| flaper87 | that's the whole point about that code | 20:18 |
| jbresnah | markwash: i mean, if there is an effort to do a refactor in this realm, we may as well do it right | 20:18 |
| markwash | flaper87: I understand, but most of it seems cosmetic rather than real changes from the underlying | 20:19 |
| jbresnah | i dont think oslo should have component client implementations | 20:19 |
| jbresnah | that architecturally doesnt make sense to me | 20:19 |
| markwash | like, detail, instead of client.images.list() | 20:19 |
| jbresnah | but in full disclosure, i dont understand why oslo operates the way it does yet | 20:19 |
| jbresnah | tho i am sure there are good reasons | 20:19 |
| markwash | jbresnah: its not really a full client, just an interface adapter I think | 20:19 |
| NobodyCam | was this not rejected by oslo a month or more ago? | 20:20 |
| jbresnah | right, but that goes to the implication that the existing client has a less than usable interface | 20:20 |
| flaper87 | markwash: right, but that's just the first step. The idea is to clean-up that code | 20:20 |
| flaper87 | basically, w/ that code we can now make other modules use glanceclient directly, then we'll change it and upgrade those modules | 20:20 |
| flaper87 | they'll have to pin glanceclient version | 20:21 |
| jbresnah | markwash: or i suppose it is more about felxibilty of subbing out glance | 20:21 |
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| jbresnah | markwash: in which case i guess it really isn't something for glance to decide | 20:22 |
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| markwash | flaper87: k, so maybe I just don't understand how its easier to do the changes in a central place when everyone is depending on it, vs when only one project is depending on it | 20:22 |
| markwash | anyway, we should move on. if you all in favor could summarize again on the review | 20:23 |
| markwash | I'll not be a hard blocker :-) | 20:23 |
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| zhiyan | markwash: maybe we can also ask oslo guys to make sure this, how about put this adapter to oslo. | 20:24 |
| markwash | devananda: hi! | 20:24 |
| devananda | hi! | 20:24 |
| markwash | zhiyan: yes, at least we should find the review where it was rejected from oslo if it exists as well | 20:24 |
| devananda | sorry i'm late. let me see if i can find that review | 20:25 |
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| markwash | devananda: why can't ironic just use glanceclient directly, out of curiousity? | 20:25 |
| markwash | what features are missing | 20:25 |
| flaper87 | markwash: mmh, I think I got confused. I was talking about having that stuff in glanceclient | 20:25 |
| markwash | flaper87: no I think you were right on | 20:26 |
| markwash | at least, I understood you I thought | 20:26 |
| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31186/ | 20:26 |
| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30971/ | 20:26 |
| NobodyCam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30971/ | 20:26 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 20:27 |
| devananda | :) | 20:27 |
| devananda | markwash: the goal is for ironic (and nova, and cinder) to use glanceclient! exactly | 20:27 |
| zhiyan | aha, jbresnah, that my concern | 20:27 |
| esheffield1 | how important is the ability to flip between glance v1 and v2 for nova, cinder, etc.? | 20:27 |
| devananda | we dont want the same code in all three projects, which is what we have today | 20:27 |
| markwash | so why do we need this nova interface dinosaur? :-) | 20:27 |
| devananda | nova and cinder already copy this code, and ironic needs the same functionality | 20:27 |
| devananda | markwash: which dinosaur? | 20:28 |
| jbresnah | it seems like the point of this thing is to have an abstraction layer to image services | 20:28 |
| esheffield1 | I was under the impression that was a driving factor, but if not then it does seem like major overkill | 20:28 |
| markwash | I guess I'm trying to see, how is this functionality different from just using the client library? | 20:28 |
| zhiyan | jbresnah: #31186 | 20:28 |
| jbresnah | the assumption there being that we may have image services other than glance | 20:28 |
| devananda | markwash: aiui, the functionality does not exist today in the client lib | 20:28 |
| jbresnah | in which case, it makes no sense to put that in something glance specific | 20:28 |
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| jbresnah | otherwise one could just use the glance client directly | 20:28 |
| devananda | the glanceclient patch is adding the functionality that nova implements (and which cinder copied) | 20:29 |
| jbresnah | the other point to this could be a new interface to glance client | 20:29 |
| jbresnah | implying that the existing interface is not good | 20:29 |
| markwash | it looks like its just list, get, download, upload, update, delete | 20:29 |
| jbresnah | if so we should evaluate it on those points | 20:29 |
| markwash | and all of that exists in v1, and is about to in v2 if not | 20:29 |
| devananda | no... it's also open, inject, etc | 20:29 |
| devananda | it's the "modify what's in an image and repack it" that we need | 20:29 |
| devananda | and "open the image to copy certain things out of it" | 20:30 |
| devananda | (in addition to list, get, etc...) | 20:30 |
| markwash | oh, I didn't see that. . | 20:30 |
| devananda | :) | 20:30 |
| markwash | is that in the current review? | 20:31 |
| devananda | i thought it was ... | 20:31 |
| markwash | there's one feature in there that I know we don't support, namely we don't have the ability to proxy to multiple glance api servers | 20:32 |
| markwash | basically, its like overriding the os-endpoint flag with a list | 20:32 |
| markwash | but we could add that. . | 20:32 |
| markwash | I just hate to see this interface further ensconced :-( | 20:33 |
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| markwash | we might need to move on... | 20:33 |
| markwash | I think we can take up some more concerns in the review itself, but nevertheless this is a high priority for us to sort out | 20:34 |
| markwash | so no more slacking from me! | 20:34 |
| markwash | (on this issue) | 20:34 |
| jbresnah | heh | 20:34 |
| jbresnah | ok, i'll try to put together some coherant thoughts for the review as well | 20:34 |
| NobodyCam | Thank you all :) | 20:35 |
| markwash | thanks for joining, NobodyCam and devananda | 20:35 |
| markwash | #topic quota | 20:35 |
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| markwash | jbresnah: are we still blocked on figuring out about where in the code the quota enforcement should land? | 20:35 |
| jbresnah | yeah | 20:35 |
| jbresnah | for reference: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37993/ | 20:36 |
| devananda | thanks markwash :) | 20:36 |
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| jbresnah | markwash: you had some opinions on it because you did not like the db_api being introduced to the store/__init__ | 20:37 |
| jbresnah | markwash: iirc | 20:37 |
| ameade | use the storage quota enforcement design pattern, duh | 20:37 |
| jbresnah | heh | 20:37 |
| jbresnah | ameade: can you send me that book? | 20:37 |
| markwash | jbresnah: right. . | 20:37 |
| markwash | as I understand our architecture, the stores and the db are fairly separate entities | 20:37 |
| jbresnah | markwash: hard to argue with that | 20:37 |
| markwash | I *think* that this could be a great tiny domain layer | 20:38 |
| jbresnah | can you explain more? | 20:38 |
| markwash | but it maybe hasn't escaped my attention that folks aren't meshing very well with the domain layers approach in glance today | 20:38 |
| ameade | ya see, glance is like an onion | 20:38 |
| jbresnah | heh | 20:39 |
| zhiyan | markwash: also hard to agree with you, seems Scrubber-refactoring change also need db in store (adding location's status field). | 20:39 |
| jbresnah | nod | 20:39 |
| jbresnah | ameade: for sure | 20:39 |
| markwash | yeah, basically inherit a proxy layer (image, image repo, image membership, image member repo), and then change just the functions you need to provide quota enforcement | 20:39 |
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| markwash | zhiyan: why does it need it? I think the scrubber in that case has a reference to both the db and the store, but we'd still not need the store code to talk to the db | 20:40 |
| zhiyan | markwash: when using delay deletion, i need update 'status' in db, but queue-file. | 20:40 |
| jbresnah | markwash: so you would like to add a new proxy layer for this? | 20:40 |
| markwash | jbresnah: yes | 20:40 |
| jbresnah | markwash: i can probably do that | 20:40 |
| markwash | the idea of those layers is essentially that each captures a single cross cutting family of concerns | 20:41 |
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| flaper87 | I can see the quota code being a proxy layer as well | 20:41 |
| markwash | the division isn't quite right today, with policy and auth kind of separate | 20:41 |
| flaper87 | we've something similar for policies | 20:41 |
| jbresnah | markwash: and have it be in a new module under glance/ ? | 20:41 |
| markwash | jbresnah: module placement is my kryptonite | 20:41 |
| markwash | :-) | 20:41 |
| jbresnah | heh | 20:41 |
| flaper87 | lol | 20:42 |
| markwash | well so is naming maybe | 20:42 |
| markwash | :-) | 20:42 |
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| markwash | okay, so, wanna give that a try? | 20:42 |
| jbresnah | yeah | 20:42 |
| markwash | #topic tasks | 20:42 |
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| jbresnah | i'll figure out a place and run it though review | 20:42 |
| jbresnah | thanks | 20:42 |
| markwash | how's work going with asynchronous tasks? | 20:42 |
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| brianr | what did you decide about a branch for that? | 20:43 |
| markwash | we had a meeting on tuesday to cover some of the design work and an attempt to divide up the work that needs to be done | 20:43 |
| markwash | brianr: I'm not sure that I have a great answer there | 20:43 |
| markwash | I like the idea of feature branches, because I think we need to all collaborate outside of master | 20:43 |
| markwash | but there isn't a lot of good tooling to support that | 20:44 |
| markwash | and we'd still want to leave things in small enough chunks to be reviewable by others | 20:44 |
| markwash | brianr: so for now, it might be nice to start out working in github | 20:45 |
| ameade | should we make an openstack-glance team in github then? with a glance fork? | 20:45 |
| markwash | but it seems like we need another meeting, to figure out division of responsibility | 20:45 |
| jbresnah | could do a stackforge project | 20:45 |
| jbresnah | if gerrit is wanted | 20:46 |
| markwash | brianr: ^^ do you buy that? | 20:46 |
| jbresnah | and then bring it in once things are settled? | 20:46 |
| markwash | jbresnah: ameade ooh neat ideas | 20:46 |
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| flaper87 | mmh, I'd go with github org | 20:46 |
| flaper87 | stackforge might bring more complexity, it would have tests, though | 20:46 |
| markwash | for this, given how little time is left in h3, it might make sense to just do whatever comes easiest | 20:47 |
| brianr | markwash: i don't have a strong opinion | 20:47 |
| brianr | +1 on what is easiest | 20:47 |
| jbresnah | i think getting this into h3 is going to be a stretch | 20:47 |
| markwash | brianr: nikhil what is most needed to help unblock progress? just a place to work? | 20:47 |
| jbresnah | is that realistic? | 20:48 |
| jbresnah | if not we may want to go with what is best instead of what is fastest | 20:48 |
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| jbresnah | but i dont have a ton of skin in that game so i will be quiet | 20:48 |
| markwash | I"m concerned there as well | 20:48 |
| markwash | which is one reason why I like a feature branch | 20:48 |
| markwash | I don't want to have this feature half-landed | 20:49 |
| flaper87 | I don't think there's enough time to get this done before feature freeze | 20:49 |
| jbresnah | nod | 20:49 |
| markwash | very awkward to release note that :-) | 20:49 |
| flaper87 | I'd prefer to give this feature more time, more thoughts and make it right. | 20:49 |
| flaper87 | it'll be kind of important for glance once its done | 20:49 |
| nikhil | markwash: from rax 2 of us are planning to work in this bp dedicated | 20:49 |
| flaper87 | so we better get it right and dedicate enough time on it | 20:49 |
| markwash | okay, I have to run :-( | 20:50 |
| markwash | nikhil, brianr: when can we check in again? | 20:50 |
| nikhil | sure | 20:50 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: I'd love to help with that work, I didn't participate much in the design, sorry | 20:50 |
| brianr | markwash: how about tomorrow p.m. ? | 20:50 |
| nikhil | flaper87: sure, tomorrow we'r discussing a bit more in ET | 20:51 |
| nikhil | so let try and follow up with some possible schedule | 20:51 |
| markwash | let me know the time and I'll do my best :-) | 20:51 |
| markwash | #endmeeting | 20:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 8 20:51:36 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2013/glance.2013-08-08-20.01.html | 20:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2013/glance.2013-08-08-20.01.txt | 20:51 |
| markwash | sorry no open discussion today | 20:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2013/glance.2013-08-08-20.01.log.html | 20:51 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: awesoem | 20:51 |
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| mordred | markwash, jbresnah: we can make you a feature branch in gerrit | 20:54 |
| jbresnah | cool | 20:54 |
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| mordred | in the normal glance repo - I think a couple of other projects have one | 20:54 |
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| flaper87 | mordred: awesome! | 20:56 |
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| Vasiliy | Hi all, is there somebody from Glance team? | 22:23 |
| Vasiliy | I'd like to discuss blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/glance-nfs-storage-support | 22:23 |
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| hub_cap | Vasiliy: you might want to try #openstack-glance to ask your question/blueprint | 22:27 |
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| Vasiliy | hub_cap - thanks I will try | 22:28 |
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| hub_cap | np! | 22:29 |
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