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| dkoryavov | Hello folks. | 14:59 |
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| dkoryavov | Muranoers, are you here? | 14:59 |
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| ativelkov | Hi, I am here | 15:00 |
| * IgorYozhikov here | 15:00 | |
| dkoryavov | Let's wait several minutes for guys who are late and then let's start | 15:02 |
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| katyafervent | Hi! | 15:02 |
| dkoryavov | #startmeeting Murano | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 2 15:02:23 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkoryavov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| akuznetsova | Hello all | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Murano)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 15:02 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | Hi all! | 15:02 |
| dkoryavov | Here is summary from previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-08-19-15.04.html | 15:03 |
| dkoryavov | We have no action items from the previous meeting. o_O | 15:03 |
| tsufiev_ | hi! | 15:04 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | Need to fix it on this meeting ) | 15:04 |
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| tnurlygayanov_ | the main action item from the last meeting - preparation for release-0.2 | 15:05 |
| dkoryavov | OK | 15:06 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | and today we have new tag on git repositories for all Murano components | 15:06 |
| dkoryavov | tnurlygayanov_ please, tell us about the quality of Murano v0.2 RC1 | 15:06 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | with rc1 tag. | 15:06 |
| dkoryavov | Yep. | 15:07 |
| dkoryavov | tsufiev_ should write an email about this to the openstack-dev@ ML | 15:07 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | Murano release-0.2 RC1 have many fixed bugs and new services and features. | 15:07 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | In RC1 we have finished to fix all blocker and critical bugs. | 15:08 |
| dkoryavov | Folks, I think we need to create a good 'getting start' guide for our users | 15:10 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bugs?orderby=-status&start=0 | 15:10 |
| tsufiev_ | btw, here is an email: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/014522.html | 15:10 |
| dkoryavov | tsufiev_ cool! thanks! | 15:10 |
| ativelkov | Nice idea | 15:10 |
| ativelkov | Getting started guilde - and probably a "tutorial video" or something | 15:11 |
| dteselkin | dkoryavov, we are working on "Getting Started" guide | 15:11 |
| ativelkov | deploying Murano is complicated stuff: we need to make it simple | 15:11 |
| IgorYozhikov | tutorial video - great | 15:11 |
| dkoryavov | dteselkin Good. Should we create a blueprint for this? | 15:12 |
| IgorYozhikov | Blueprint for text manual or for video tutorial? | 15:13 |
| dteselkin | dkoryavov, I'm not sure if it's a good topic for blueprint. | 15:13 |
| dteselkin | But we definitely can :) | 15:14 |
| dkoryavov | #info dteselkin and IgorYozhikov are working on Getting Started guide for Murano v 0.2 | 15:15 |
| IgorYozhikov | May be it nice/must to have, it could make install and understanding of the configuration steps easier | 15:15 |
| akuznetsova | One more blueprint will not be superfluous | 15:16 |
| dkoryavov | akuznetsova +1 | 15:16 |
| dteselkin | Ok, I'll create it | 15:16 |
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| akuznetsova | ativelkov: did you discuss with igor marnat our screencasts? | 15:18 |
| dkoryavov | Btw, we have many new blueprints. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/security-groups | 15:19 |
| dkoryavov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/combined-roles | 15:19 |
| dkoryavov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/custom-workflows | 15:19 |
| dkoryavov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/linux-agent | 15:19 |
| dkoryavov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/operations-on-deployed-service-or-environment | 15:19 |
| ativelkov | Yes, I did | 15:19 |
| ativelkov | as a result, it seems like I have to create a new screencast, a merged version of mine and Timur's | 15:20 |
| dkoryavov | Did somebody see them? | 15:20 |
| * IgorYozhikov saw | 15:20 | |
| dkoryavov | OK. They are not very informative. So, if someone knows more about them, feel free to update them. | 15:22 |
| dmyznikov | ativelkov: and we will have one screencast instead two? | 15:23 |
| dkoryavov | OK. I suggest to discuss the date for Murano v 0.2.1 - bug fix release for Murano v 0.2. | 15:23 |
| ativelkov | yes, it seems so | 15:23 |
| ativelkov | plus the one which was created by IgorYohikov | 15:23 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | #action need to update https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/linux-agent - need to describe messages format for agent, because now it is shudow logic for everyone who wants to help with this task | 15:24 |
| akuznetsova | We haven't got a lot of bugs | 15:24 |
| katyafervent | How will you share with ready screencast? Will you add link to launchpad? | 15:25 |
| dkoryavov | I suggest to release it 19th September. Folks, what do you think - will it be enough? | 15:25 |
| dmyznikov | ativelkov: and yet two screencasts... :) | 15:25 |
| dkoryavov | katyafervent ativelkov IgorYozhikov I suggest YouTube. :) | 15:26 |
| dkoryavov | akuznetsova it is normal. :) We will see many other bugs after the release (when users will start to use Murano in production :) | 15:29 |
| dkoryavov | OK, what about 19th september? | 15:29 |
| dkoryavov | Any other opinions? | 15:30 |
| IgorYozhikov | why not | 15:30 |
| dmyznikov | dkoryavov: not so much bugs... | 15:30 |
| akuznetsova | IgorYozhikov: +1 | 15:30 |
| dmyznikov | dkoryavov: And I hope, none of critical bugs ^) | 15:31 |
| dkoryavov | tnurlygayanov_ tsufiev_ dteselkin ativelkov katyafervent ? | 15:32 |
| dmyznikov | I agree | 15:32 |
| katyafervent | it's more then enough) | 15:33 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | I belive that we should wait for users feedback and after that estimate 'bugs-fix' iteration | 15:34 |
| ativelkov | Yes, I think so | 15:34 |
| akuznetsova | But if we won't have time, we can publish 'known issues' | 15:34 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | probably we should estimate two weeks for 'the first steps of users' | 15:34 |
| dkoryavov | akuznetsova we'll do this anyway | 15:34 |
| dkoryavov | tnurlygayanov_ we can create 2.0.2 for this :) | 15:35 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | ok ) | 15:35 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | what about the our estimates for blueprints? | 15:36 |
| dkoryavov | OK, most of all Muranoers are agreed with me | 15:36 |
| tsufiev_ | 2 weeks should be enough | 15:36 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | have we the road map with describing different blueprints ? Lets discus this ) | 15:37 |
| dkoryavov | #info The release date for 'bug fix' release - Murano v 2.0.1: Sep. 19th 2013 | 15:37 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | I think that we can work with bugs in parallel with the main development of new features | 15:37 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | because new features it is very important | 15:37 |
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| dkoryavov | tnurlygayanov_ the ROADMAP is here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Murano/Roadmap | 15:38 |
| dkoryavov | As you can see I already added 19th sep. as the date for bug fix release :) | 15:38 |
| dkoryavov | On the previous meeting I suggested to sync our releases with releases of OpenStack, but this Idea is not very popular as I can see. | 15:40 |
| akuznetsova | version 0.2.0.1 ? maybe 0.2.1 because we have strange numbering | 15:40 |
| dkoryavov | akuznetsova what release should be after 0.2.9? | 15:41 |
| dkoryavov | 0.3 or 0.2.10? | 15:41 |
| IgorYozhikov | 0.3 | 15:42 |
| dmyznikov | without serious new features - 0.2.10 | 15:42 |
| tsufiev_ | 0.3 | 15:43 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | without bugs ) 0.3 ))) | 15:43 |
| akuznetsova | oooh, 0.3 | 15:43 |
| dmyznikov | without bugs - this is 1.0 ^) | 15:43 |
| tnurlygayanov_ | ok, what we also plan to discus today? | 15:44 |
| dkoryavov | I suggest the next release strategy: if core components are not significantly changed we should use 0.2XX. 0.2 -epoch, XX- the number of release. | 15:45 |
| dkoryavov | tnurlygayanov_ nothing more | 15:45 |
| dkoryavov | 0.X.YY.ZZZZ | 15:46 |
| dkoryavov | ZZZZ - the number of bug fix release | 15:46 |
| dkoryavov | So, 0.2.0.1 should be the first bug fix release for v 0.2 | 15:46 |
| tsufiev_ | omg, is it a linux kernel? | 15:46 |
| dkoryavov | tsufiev_ yep! :) | 15:47 |
| katyafervent | 0.2.1 will suit | 15:47 |
| akuznetsova | What means YY? | 15:47 |
| dkoryavov | akuznetsova the number of 'minor' release. | 15:48 |
| tsufiev_ | i'll suggest using X.Y.Z where X is a major feature release, Y is a minor feature release and Z is a bugfix release | 15:49 |
| tsufiev_ | it implies that we haven't yet any major feature release... | 15:50 |
| dkoryavov | tsufiev_ and this is my proposal too. | 15:50 |
| dkoryavov | OK. | 15:51 |
| dkoryavov | We have no time. Do we agreed or we need more time to discuss? | 15:51 |
| IgorYozhikov | + | 15:52 |
| katyafervent | Thanks to all for the discussion | 15:52 |
| dkoryavov | heeey! | 15:52 |
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| dkoryavov | what about my last question? | 15:53 |
| dkoryavov | ohh… | 15:53 |
| dkoryavov | ok, next time. | 15:53 |
| tsufiev_ | about number versioning? | 15:53 |
| dkoryavov | #info to discuss release strategy on the next meeting. | 15:53 |
| dkoryavov | Thanks for all. | 15:54 |
| dkoryavov | The next meeting will be Sep. 9ht. | 15:54 |
| dkoryavov | #endmeeting Murano | 15:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings (alternate)" | 15:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 2 15:54:32 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-09-02-15.02.html | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-09-02-15.02.txt | 15:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-09-02-15.02.log.html | 15:54 |
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