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| rev | g'day | 02:06 |
| rev | Sarob will 7pm (Los Angeles) be the permanent time for the OpenStack training chat? | 02:07 |
| rev | i.e., should I change my reminder in Outlook? | 02:07 |
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| rev | ... or not. | 02:11 |
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| dguitarbite | hi rev | 02:13 |
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| dguitarbite | rev: is it not now ? | 02:21 |
| dguitarbite | hi colin | 02:24 |
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| alagalah | Morning all | 13:53 |
| colinmcnamara | Morning | 13:58 |
| colinmcnamara | Let's see how a 7am start works for everyone. We moved it to make it easier for overseas to participate | 13:59 |
| colinmcnamara | let's give it till 7:05 for people to log in | 14:00 |
| colinmcnamara | #meeting start training-manuals | 14:01 |
| colinmcnamara | err wrong command | 14:01 |
| colinmcnamara | #startmeeting training-manuals | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 1 14:02:00 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is colinmcnamara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-manuals)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_manuals' | 14:02 |
| colinmcnamara | lets give a few minutes for sean and prahnav | 14:03 |
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| colinmcnamara | good to see you threon | 14:04 |
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| colinmcnamara | we are waiting for sean and prahnav. I'm giving them a couple minutes (we just changed the meeting time, and there may be some confusion) | 14:05 |
| colinmcnamara | ok, time to be a schedule Nazi, starting the meeting | 14:06 |
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| colinmcnamara | Roll Call | 14:06 |
| colinmcnamara | Who is attending, chime in with #info and your name attending | 14:06 |
| colinmcnamara | #info colin attending | 14:06 |
| alagalah | #info alagalah attending | 14:07 |
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| colinmcnamara | Theron, did I see you logged in? | 14:07 |
| colinmcnamara | Ok, Sean and Prahnav aren't here :/ | 14:08 |
| colinmcnamara | I'm going to run down the items | 14:08 |
| colinmcnamara | so at least they are logged. And then follow up with Sean and Prahnav later | 14:08 |
| colinmcnamara | #topic proposed topics | 14:08 |
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| colinmcnamara | 1. Progress | 14:08 |
| colinmcnamara | 2. Blocking Items | 14:08 |
| colinmcnamara | 3. Focus work for next week | 14:08 |
| colinmcnamara | any other proposed items? | 14:09 |
| colinmcnamara | Keith? | 14:09 |
| colinmcnamara | Ok, moving on to topic 1, progress | 14:10 |
| colinmcnamara | #topic progress | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "progress (Meeting topic: training-manuals)" | 14:10 | |
| colinmcnamara | There was quite a lot of work done last week | 14:10 |
| alagalah | Hi, sorry was reading the wiki | 14:10 |
| colinmcnamara | no worries | 14:10 |
| theron_ | #info theron attending | 14:10 |
| colinmcnamara | hello threon | 14:10 |
| alagalah | Is there a run down on the new XML include format in an etherpad somewhere? | 14:10 |
| colinmcnamara | theron | 14:10 |
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| colinmcnamara | #topic - proposed topics | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "- proposed topics (Meeting topic: training-manuals)" | 14:11 | |
| colinmcnamara | 1. Progress | 14:11 |
| colinmcnamara | 2. Blocking Items | 14:11 |
| colinmcnamara | 3. Focus work for next week | 14:11 |
| colinmcnamara | any other topics that would like to be added to the list for discussion? | 14:11 |
| colinmcnamara | alagalah: it sounds like you want to discus xml include location? | 14:12 |
| colinmcnamara | Theron: any topics that you want to add to the list to discuss? | 14:12 |
| alagalah | Yes please, and also (I was waiting for blocking) how to include content that I don't think appears in the XML docs | 14:12 |
| theron | colinmcnamara, not today. I'm in watch and learn mode today. | 14:12 |
| colinmcnamara | ok, adding xml include location in wiki / and including non xml content to the topic list | 14:13 |
| alagalah | i.e. how would I include content for card018 from http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/ | 14:13 |
| colinmcnamara | Topics | 14:13 |
| colinmcnamara | Progress | 14:13 |
| colinmcnamara | Blocking Items | 14:13 |
| colinmcnamara | Focus work for next week | 14:13 |
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| colinmcnamara | xml include location | 14:13 |
| colinmcnamara | including non xml content | 14:13 |
| colinmcnamara | sounds good. let's hit them in order | 14:13 |
| colinmcnamara | #topic progress | 14:13 |
| alagalah | #aqgree | 14:13 |
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| alagalah | #agree | 14:14 |
| alagalah | #agreed | 14:14 |
| alagalah | 3rd times the charm | 14:14 |
| colinmcnamara | Most of the progress this week has been accomplished by Prahnav | 14:14 |
| colinmcnamara | though his work is waiting to be merged. Let me dig up the repo he is working in | 14:14 |
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| colinmcnamara | #info - aptira repo location - https://github.com/aptira/openstack-training-labs | 14:15 |
| colinmcnamara | he is teaching a class in india this week, but churned out a serious amount of scripts for base configuration, to assist in in person training | 14:16 |
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| colinmcnamara | also, the CTO of Aptira Sean and I met last week, and we are getting access to the indian user groups (1500 employees) | 14:16 |
| colinmcnamara | errr 1500 people | 14:16 |
| colinmcnamara | other then that, work inside the training-manuals repo has been very light, only one card completed | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Total Cards: 135 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Remaining Cards: 75 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Done Cards: 60 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Percent of cards done: 44.44% | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Hours at start: 80 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Hours est total: 135 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Hours remaining: 75 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Hours done: 60 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Percent of hours done: 44.44% | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | -------- | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Days Elapsed 61 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Daily Burndown 0.98 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Est. Days Left 76 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | Est. Completion Date 12/16/13 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | https://BurndownForTrello.com/share/9c3rfd2fu9 | 14:17 |
| colinmcnamara | This puts our estimated completion date at 12/16. | 14:18 |
| colinmcnamara | to continue to bring that date in, we need to focus on getting our average cards per contributor to 4 a week | 14:18 |
| colinmcnamara | any discussion about progress? | 14:18 |
| alagalah | I can do that, it's process that's holding me up | 14:19 |
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| colinmcnamara | so, lets make a target to coach you on progress | 14:19 |
| colinmcnamara | I'm working out of the san jose office on Thursday. (offsite for lunch) | 14:19 |
| colinmcnamara | if you want to also work out of that office, we can coach you through the process | 14:20 |
| colinmcnamara | maybe do a screencast | 14:20 |
| alagalah | That's perfect, I'm in meetings in the general locale, and plan to be in the office that afternoon before the meetup | 14:20 |
| colinmcnamara | ok | 14:20 |
| colinmcnamara | #topic blocking items | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blocking items (Meeting topic: training-manuals)" | 14:20 | |
| colinmcnamara | The biggest blocking item that I see is conversion of restructuredText (rst) to docbook XML | 14:21 |
| colinmcnamara | this ties into alagalah's proposed topic of how to import dev docs | 14:21 |
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| alagalah | Would it be useful to use the above URL I messaged as a reference? | 14:22 |
| alagalah | And card018? Or shall we table specifics until our 1:1 ? | 14:22 |
| colinmcnamara | Sean and I agreed that if there was no progress on a conversion tool by Thursday, that we would copy content directly into xml sections of training-manuals | 14:22 |
| colinmcnamara | let's keep discussions in the channel | 14:22 |
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| alagalah | Ok, so let's look at https://trello.com/c/Sid6xiQu/18-as-an-associate-trainee-i-need-to-be-able-to-understand-the-role-of-openstack-identity-service-in-the-controller-node | 14:23 |
| colinmcnamara | so, I'm assuming you found relevant docs in the dev docs tree | 14:23 |
| colinmcnamara | outside of the repo, correct? | 14:23 |
| alagalah | Most of the XML based docs are great on the install side, and I'm having trouble finding descriptive content for the "role" based cards | 14:23 |
| colinmcnamara | most of that is in developers docs | 14:24 |
| alagalah | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/ and http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-identity-service/2.0/content/ | 14:24 |
| colinmcnamara | exactly | 14:24 |
| colinmcnamara | my proposal is to continue work the translation tool. with a cut off of thursday at the meetup | 14:24 |
| alagalah | So I should plan to copy/paste into a card018 file and move from there | 14:24 |
| alagalah | #agreed | 14:24 |
| colinmcnamara | if we can't finish the conversion tool by thursday | 14:24 |
| alagalah | I have another question then. | 14:24 |
| colinmcnamara | then we need to create a sub section / article file | 14:24 |
| colinmcnamara | with the copied text / content | 14:25 |
| colinmcnamara | and include that into the card file | 14:25 |
| alagalah | It seems we have changed card naming convention from cardxxx.xml to cardxxx-descriptivetext.xml ... is this something we should continue? | 14:25 |
| colinmcnamara | basically need to easily see the difference between included information from source docs, vs copied in | 14:25 |
| colinmcnamara | yes, cardxxx-description.xml | 14:26 |
| alagalah | Can you cite a card example that uses the "(07:24:59 AM) colinmcnamara: then we need to create a sub section / article file | 14:26 |
| alagalah | (07:25:04 AM) colinmcnamara: with the copied text / content | 14:26 |
| alagalah | (07:25:09 AM) colinmcnamara: and include that into the card file" | 14:26 |
| alagalah | So I can use it as a "template" of sorts | 14:26 |
| colinmcnamara | #action if we can't get the rst conversion process down by Thursday evening then I will check in an example file with that structure | 14:27 |
| colinmcnamara | #action colinmcnamara if we can't get the rst conversion process down by Thursday evening then I will check in an example file with that structure | 14:27 |
| colinmcnamara | that make sense? | 14:28 |
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| alagalah | #agreed | 14:28 |
| colinmcnamara | so, after you get the process down. If you could coach Sam and Cindy through the process and try to get them contributing 1-2 cards a week | 14:28 |
| colinmcnamara | I think that would be a huge help | 14:28 |
| colinmcnamara | Cindy's goal is to get contributing to Neutron also, which I think aligns with your goals alagalah | 14:29 |
| alagalah | Yes | 14:29 |
| colinmcnamara | cool | 14:29 |
| colinmcnamara | that ends our active topics. | 14:29 |
| alagalah | Well, more python based contribution yes | 14:29 |
| colinmcnamara | #topic any other business? | 14:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "any other business? (Meeting topic: training-manuals)" | 14:29 | |
| alagalah | I think it may be useful to "ratify" (?) the various etherpads | 14:30 |
| colinmcnamara | ? | 14:30 |
| colinmcnamara | can you explain | 14:30 |
| colinmcnamara | or, expand on that statement | 14:30 |
| alagalah | Maybe it's just me but I find it hard to find process information from the various etherpads, it seems some are linked to others and you have to do a tree walk ... e.g. | 14:30 |
| colinmcnamara | etherpads are great for informal discussion and alignment | 14:31 |
| colinmcnamara | but stuff that persists needs to make it into the wiki | 14:32 |
| colinmcnamara | change control alone on etherpad is lacking (anyone can delete anything) | 14:32 |
| alagalah | I see, ok thanks that helps. | 14:32 |
| colinmcnamara | so, if there is content that you find valuable | 14:32 |
| alagalah | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Training-manuals ? | 14:33 |
| colinmcnamara | yes | 14:33 |
| alagalah | Perfect, thanks | 14:33 |
| colinmcnamara | if there is info that is valuable, find the appropriate section, or add it | 14:33 |
| colinmcnamara | and get it into the wiki | 14:33 |
| alagalah | Ack | 14:33 |
| alagalah | #agreed | 14:33 |
| colinmcnamara | I agree that etherpad sprawl is a limiter for a new commiter | 14:33 |
| alagalah | Use Trello to document any ideas for the wiki ? | 14:34 |
| colinmcnamara | ummm | 14:34 |
| colinmcnamara | good question | 14:34 |
| alagalah | That way someone else can take the work on or comment on it | 14:34 |
| alagalah | Or you can come up with something you want done and delegate it etc | 14:34 |
| colinmcnamara | ideally yes | 14:34 |
| colinmcnamara | so we can track the work | 14:35 |
| colinmcnamara | it will show up in the burn down chart | 14:35 |
| alagalah | That too | 14:35 |
| colinmcnamara | I do want to get a bit more strict about work showing up in the todo queue that isn't a strict priority | 14:35 |
| colinmcnamara | but stuff like that is project core that needs to get done | 14:35 |
| alagalah | The current labels are : Project core, Content, Graphics, (red label default), Noob contrib, Infra | 14:35 |
| colinmcnamara | so, yes. throw it in the doing queue when you are doing it | 14:35 |
| colinmcnamara | wiki work would be project core | 14:35 |
| alagalah | ty | 14:36 |
| colinmcnamara | side note, Turkeys are making a racket outside of my window | 14:36 |
| colinmcnamara | makes me want to grab my bow ;) | 14:36 |
| alagalah | I have Fur Elise and Moonlight Sonata playing at varying speeds :) | 14:36 |
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| alagalah | (mornings are the only time my daughter can practice piano regularly with the sports/homework in the evenings) | 14:37 |
| colinmcnamara | awesome | 14:37 |
| colinmcnamara | Any other business? | 14:37 |
| alagalah | It is actually | 14:37 |
| alagalah | I have none that a dose of face to face won't fix | 14:37 |
| colinmcnamara | cool | 14:37 |
| alagalah | Actually one more thing | 14:37 |
| colinmcnamara | ok | 14:37 |
| alagalah | Not openstack-training related but something I'd like to cover on Thu meetup, appropriate here ?> | 14:38 |
| colinmcnamara | sure | 14:38 |
| colinmcnamara | well, actually | 14:38 |
| alagalah | I'd like to get started on understanding the "assign a bug" / "work a bug" process. | 14:38 |
| colinmcnamara | we can talk later. this is logged so let's keep it on topic | 14:38 |
| alagalah | #agreed | 14:38 |
| colinmcnamara | we can cover that in a 1:1 | 14:38 |
| colinmcnamara | or at the meetup | 14:38 |
| alagalah | Then I'm good | 14:38 |
| colinmcnamara | Ok, I'll hunt sean and prahnav down, as well as document the status | 14:39 |
| colinmcnamara | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 1 14:39:10 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2013/training_manuals.2013-10-01-14.02.html | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2013/training_manuals.2013-10-01-14.02.txt | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2013/training_manuals.2013-10-01-14.02.log.html | 14:39 |
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| theron | thx colinmcnamara | 14:39 |
| alagalah | Thx | 14:40 |
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| colinmcnamara | welcome guys | 14:43 |
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| SpamapS | o/ | 19:00 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 19:00 |
| marios | o/ | 19:00 |
| lifeless | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 1 19:00:25 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lifeless. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:00 |
| lifeless | #topic agenda | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:00 | |
| lsmola | o/ | 19:00 |
| lifeless | bugs | 19:00 |
| lifeless | Projects needing releases | 19:00 |
| lifeless | Grizzly test rack status | 19:00 |
| lifeless | CI virtualized testing progress | 19:00 |
| lifeless | Insert one-off agenda items here | 19:00 |
| lifeless | Tuskar UI design update discussion | 19:00 |
| lifeless | CD proposal | 19:00 |
| lifeless | open discussion | 19:00 |
| lifeless | #topic bugs | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:00 | |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:01 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:01 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:01 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:01 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:01 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:01 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar-ui | 19:01 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:01 |
| lifeless | Hey everyone, welcome to the first unified meeting | 19:01 |
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| lifeless | so, in dib we have one critical | 19:02 |
| lifeless | which should be fix-released | 19:03 |
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| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config/+bug/1233656 looks like it will be a fun bug | 19:04 |
| lifeless | I'm going to bet it's global requirements time... | 19:04 |
| lifeless | I see https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar has lots of undecided bugs | 19:05 |
| lifeless | shadower: hey | 19:05 |
| lifeless | shadower: we haven't updated the tuskar bug teams I think; I can't triage on tuskar | 19:05 |
| lifeless | shadower: should we do the same thing we did for review teams? just merge, and update the projects to use the combined team? | 19:05 |
| lsmola | lifeless, I think he is not here | 19:05 |
| lsmola | lifeless, most of the brno team is on cloud party | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | DOH | 19:06 |
| matty_dubs | And they didn't invite us? | 19:06 |
| lsmola | well it's in Brno :-) | 19:06 |
| matty_dubs | Speaking as a not-in-charge Tuskar person, though, merging teams in LP makes sense to me | 19:07 |
| lifeless | ok | 19:07 |
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| lsmola | make sense for me too | 19:07 |
| rpodolyaka1 | +1 | 19:08 |
| lifeless | #action shadower to reconfigure tuskar,tuskar-ui,python-tuskarclient in LP to use the tripleo team for driver/bug triage etc. | 19:08 |
| tzumainn | +1 | 19:08 |
| lifeless | #action lifeless to pull into the tripleo team the existing tuskar team members | 19:08 |
| lifeless | those two things combined should DTRT | 19:08 |
| lifeless | so there's a bunch of triage needed in tuskar | 19:08 |
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| lifeless | and tuskar-ui | 19:09 |
| lifeless | python-tuskarclient is in better shape | 19:09 |
| lifeless | Reminder: everyone should triage; it doesn't need to be closely held :) | 19:09 |
| lifeless | Once the teams are sorted, I'm sure that will be easier | 19:09 |
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| lifeless | we have bug 1233596 | 19:11 |
| lifeless | hmm, no urlifier, pok | 19:11 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1233596 | 19:11 |
| lifeless | lets ensure thats fixed asap | 19:11 |
| rpodolyaka1 | should be an easy pie, AFAIK | 19:12 |
| lifeless | the existing POC bugs can be closed I think | 19:12 |
| lifeless | I think we're going to have to close https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1189385 as cannot-reproduce | 19:13 |
| lifeless | as it hasn't happened again | 19:13 |
| lifeless | any thoughts | 19:13 |
| lifeless | ? | 19:13 |
| marios | lifeless: seems like tuskar saw that "six < 1.4" issue too (https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config/+bug/1233656) @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44689/ | 19:13 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: agreed on POC bugs, they are too far away from any future-focused work to be useful and they don't have data points. | 19:14 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: re neutron/quantum wonkiness.. I think it is a data point and perhaps just deserves demotion to Medium until we see it again. | 19:16 |
| rpodolyaka1 | anyone but me and derekh seeing this https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1231930 ? | 19:17 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka1: I haven't heard of it no | 19:18 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka1: you see derekh's theory on gre? | 19:18 |
| lifeless | marios: interesting | 19:18 |
| rpodolyaka1 | lifeless: I applied the fix, he proposed in the bug description and it works. not sure, how correct this is | 19:18 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: where does the <1.4.0 come from for six? | 19:19 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: global reqs | 19:19 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: not anymore | 19:19 |
| SpamapS | I believe there is a patch in queue to address | 19:19 |
| SpamapS | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49194/1/requirements.txt | 19:19 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: six | 19:19 |
| rpodolyaka1 | lifeless: though derekh fixed this in Fedora by adding of an iptables rule (this doesn't fix the problem for Ubuntu 13.04/OVS 1.9) | 19:19 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: is whats in global-requirements. | 19:19 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka1: oh, you're seeing it in Ubuntu ? | 19:19 |
| rpodolyaka1 | lifeless: yep | 19:20 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: approve that and I'll tag a release | 19:20 |
| rpodolyaka1 | looks like an OVS bug to me, though I can be wrong | 19:20 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | we'd better ping Neutron guys to take a look at this one | 19:20 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: done | 19:21 |
| derekh | rpodolyaka1: if the iptable rule doesn't help for your situation then look like a different problem | 19:21 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka1: so, clearly something wrong | 19:21 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka1: I don't think the hard timeot is appropriate; the timeout is to prevent cruft building up over time | 19:21 |
| derekh | rpodolyaka1: I definatly had a VM I couldn't contact, and then could after allowing gre | 19:21 |
| derekh | rpodolyaka1: tested several times | 19:22 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | derekh: Fedora has kernel 3.11 and ovs 1.11 | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: sweet ty | 19:22 |
| * rpodolyaka1 is tired of fighting with ovs/neutron and blames versions of software... | 19:23 | |
| derekh | rpodolyaka1: yup | 19:23 |
| lifeless | is there anyone setup with an overcloud that *doesn't* show this problem ? | 19:23 |
| shadower | lifeless: sorry, yeah let's merge the LP teams | 19:23 |
| lifeless | shadower: if you change the owner of the tuskar teams, I can do the merging for you | 19:24 |
| lifeless | shadower: (to me that is)( | 19:24 |
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| shadower | lifeless: done for tuskar and tuskar-ui. I can't change the pythonclient, will ask the cli guys to do that tomorrow | 19:26 |
| derekh | rpodolyaka1: before ovs was updated on fedora, (and we had ovs 1.10, this command was returing a -1 | 19:26 |
| derekh | ovs-vsctl get Interface gre-1 ofport | 19:26 |
| lifeless | shadower: ack, thanks | 19:26 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | derekh: I checked neutron logs on compute/notcompute - all OVS calls exit codes equal 0 | 19:27 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka1: derekh: lets take this offline from the meeting. | 19:28 |
| rpodolyaka1 | sure | 19:28 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka1: derekh: I suggest expanding the eyeballs that look at it e.g. via the -dev list. | 19:28 |
| lifeless | ther's nothing obviously tripleo specific about the fail | 19:28 |
| derekh | okie dokie | 19:28 |
| lifeless | #topic Projects needing releases | 19:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects needing releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:29 | |
| lifeless | I've added this section because I want to ensure we don't leave useful things locked up in git HEAT | 19:29 |
| lifeless | bah | 19:29 |
| lifeless | HEAD | 19:29 |
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| SpamapS | etoomany names | 19:30 |
| lifeless | so | 19:31 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: is there a quick git command to say "show me everything since the last tag" ? | 19:31 |
| lifeless | git log 0.0.4..HEAD | 19:31 |
| lifeless | oh, last tag | 19:31 |
| lifeless | possibly | 19:31 |
| SpamapS | well getting the last tag isn't _that_ difficult | 19:31 |
| lifeless | so dib needs a release. | 19:31 |
| lifeless | occ needs a release | 19:32 |
| lifeless | oac needs one | 19:33 |
| lifeless | orc needs one | 19:33 |
| SpamapS | orc? | 19:34 |
| lifeless | Update stackforge references to openstack | 19:34 |
| lifeless | affects metadata | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | Yeah surprised that we have any changes. ;) | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | #action SpamapS release all the things | 19:34 |
| lifeless | shadower: / anyone with tuskar history :) - has python-tuskarclient done a release? | 19:35 |
| SpamapS | lets try and land anything in the patch queue first | 19:35 |
| lifeless | likewise the tuskar api and ui ? | 19:35 |
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| marios | lifeless: don't believe so | 19:35 |
| marios | (no) | 19:35 |
| lifeless | so, unreleased code is unusable code :> | 19:35 |
| marios | for any of them | 19:35 |
| shadower | yea | 19:36 |
| lifeless | I think we should put this out to the list for discussion, but I'd like to get the tuskar bits on the release train sooner rather than later | 19:36 |
| lifeless | python-tuskarclient isn't contentious | 19:36 |
| lifeless | however ttx may have opinions about incremental delivery of web services. | 19:36 |
| shadower | yea, it'd be great to point people to something we know works | 19:36 |
| shadower | first step: get it work :) | 19:36 |
| lifeless | if there are no objections, I'll raise the subject on the dev list | 19:37 |
| shadower | +1 | 19:37 |
| ccrouch | lifeless: speaking of releases | 19:37 |
| ccrouch | what about another t-i-e release? | 19:37 |
| lifeless | oh, I did not check it | 19:37 |
| lsmola | +1 | 19:37 |
| lifeless | and tht too probably. | 19:37 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: ^ ALL the things | 19:37 |
| SpamapS | tht needs one too | 19:38 |
| SpamapS | :) | 19:38 |
| marios | speaking of which, would be awesome if we could land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47589/ in there too | 19:38 |
| ccrouch | more things.... | 19:38 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: btw I think 'land everything first' is an antipattern. | 19:38 |
| marios | (tie) | 19:38 |
| ccrouch | t-h-t | 19:38 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: fair enough | 19:38 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: we have inventory, ship it. | 19:38 |
| ccrouch | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/refs/ no releases so far | 19:38 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: review shouldn't be rushed; and putting release after review pressures review. | 19:38 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: but its like, an entire command, _each_ repo.. to do a release. | 19:38 |
| SpamapS | _a whole command_ | 19:38 |
| rpodolyaka1 | marios: seems to be working now... going to try once again tomorrow and remove WIP status | 19:38 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I know, right. | 19:38 |
| marios | rpodolyaka1: awesome, was going to ping you about that tomorrow | 19:39 |
| rpodolyaka1 | marios: depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47826/ be merged into tuskar-api though | 19:39 |
| lifeless | ok, anything else on releases ? | 19:40 |
| ccrouch | SpamapS: thoughts on a t-h-t release ? | 19:40 |
| marios | rpodolyaka1: noted, lets talk tomorrow | 19:40 |
| SpamapS | ccrouch: its been a grab bag of fail for a while now... but I've been pondering adding tox support so it runs its tests in the gate... releases naturally would follow that. | 19:41 |
| * ccrouch grabs his bag of fail and runs | 19:42 | |
| lifeless | I agree; though I don't think we /have/ to have CI to do 0.y.z releases | 19:42 |
| lifeless | per semver. | 19:42 |
| lifeless | #topic Grizzly test rack status | 19:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grizzly test rack status (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:43 | |
| * ccrouch would be pretty stoked with just a tag :-) | 19:43 | |
| SpamapS | ccrouch: I'd love to have the first release have a merge.py that isn't god awful. | 19:44 |
| SpamapS | but that wouldn't be a first release would it? | 19:44 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: release early, release often :> | 19:44 |
| SpamapS | "if your first release isn't embarassing..." | 19:44 |
| lifeless | then it's not an MVP | 19:44 |
| lifeless | so the grizzly test rack is going to die | 19:44 |
| lifeless | I hope we'll agree to replace it with a trunk POC rack | 19:45 |
| lifeless | Please a) see my email to the list | 19:45 |
| lifeless | and b) give feedback! So far it's been an overwhelming silence... | 19:45 |
| lifeless | with a few direct IRC comments saying 'hell yeah'[6~ | 19:45 |
| * shadower should be able to find some code review & email time tomorrow | 19:46 | |
| lifeless | #topic CI virtualized testing progress | 19:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI virtualized testing progress (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:47 | |
| lifeless | pleia2: , clarkb:, mordred: and I spoke in person in Seattle about this | 19:47 |
| lifeless | there is a new plan | 19:47 |
| mordred | you have to say new plan in a loud deep voice | 19:47 |
| lifeless | New Plan | 19:47 |
| mordred | there you go | 19:48 |
| lsmola | hehe | 19:48 |
| lifeless | https://etherpad.openstack.org/tripleo-test-cluster | 19:48 |
| lifeless | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/tripleo-test-cluster | 19:48 |
| lifeless | I propose that the tooling for this can be brought up in parallel with the cloud we'll need to run it on | 19:48 |
| lifeless | we may have one machine already that it can run on | 19:48 |
| lifeless | and we have a (non-state-preserving) overcloud we can run it on already | 19:49 |
| lifeless | kindof | 19:49 |
| lifeless | pleia2: does that make sense to you? Are you able to push the infra glue forward if the tripleo folk push the cloud it'll run in forward? | 19:49 |
| lifeless | I'll make sure that we have a set of action items in the spec, and probably fairly specific kards for it in kanban | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | lifeless: yeah, working closely with clarkb on this so between the two of us we can get whatever you need done | 19:50 |
| lifeless | pleia2: ok cool; I will drill in in detail with you post meeting then ? | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | lifeless: sounds good | 19:50 |
| lifeless | #action lifeless and pleia2 to talk turkey on ci story | 19:50 |
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| lifeless | #topic Tuskar UI design update discussion | 19:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tuskar UI design update discussion (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:51 | |
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| lifeless | so there are some tuskar ui updates based on the list discussion | 19:52 |
| lifeless | the designers would love feedback | 19:52 |
| lifeless | " | 19:52 |
| lifeless | Updated processes in Tuskar-UI in order to be more flexible. | 19:52 |
| lifeless | Change is reflected in wireframes + there is a link for youtube stream (posted in openstack-dev list, with [Tuskar] prefix in subject). | 19:52 |
| lifeless | Change is demonstrated in UI but it affects API a lot. API needs to be as flexible as possible to support multiple architectures and concepts which were presented in the UI. | 19:52 |
| lifeless | " | 19:52 |
| lifeless | Please have a look at this and discuss on the list | 19:52 |
| lifeless | It's a high leverage chance to influence things for quite some time | 19:53 |
| lifeless | #topic CD proposal | 19:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CD proposal (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:53 | |
| lifeless | (Sorry for pushing through, we have a lot of content today) | 19:53 |
| lifeless | This is about running a reference TripleO cloud | 19:53 |
| lifeless | Which we'd all be collaboratively responsible for | 19:53 |
| * SpamapS loves the idea | 19:54 | |
| lifeless | I sent a mail to the list | 19:54 |
| lifeless | has anyone had a chance to see it and think through/got questions ? | 19:54 |
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| lifeless | ok, deferring to the list then | 19:56 |
| lifeless | #topic open discussion | 19:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:56 | |
| * matty_dubs reading that mail now | 19:56 | |
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| matty_dubs | As far as open discussion goes, and hearing a lot of silence, I should say that I'm excited that tuskar and tripleo are united! | 19:58 |
| lsmola | yaaay | 19:59 |
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| lsmola | :-) | 19:59 |
| lifeless | matty_dubs: cool :) | 19:59 |
| lifeless | ok, out of time | 20:00 |
| lifeless | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| lifeless | thanks everyone | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 1 20:00:02 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-10-01-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-10-01-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-10-01-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: ty | 20:00 |
| lsmola | thank you, good night | 20:00 |
| marios | thanks, 'night all | 20:00 |
| rpodolyaka1 | night | 20:00 |
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