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kiall | Heya - DST fail happened | 17:22 |
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kiall | #startmeeting designate | 17:23 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 30 17:23:04 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:23 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:23 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:23 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:23 |
eankutse | here | 17:23 |
vinod1 | here | 17:23 |
kiall | Again - Apologies.. DST switched here, and both myself and mugsie we're thinking it was still at 6pm local! | 17:23 |
eankutse | :-) | 17:23 |
betsy | here | 17:23 |
kiall | Graham is on another call at the minute .. DST makes things painful :) He might be along | 17:24 |
artom2 | that saved daylight better be worth all this trouble ;) | 17:24 |
betsy | We got off daylight savings this coming weekend | 17:24 |
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kiall | Since we're going to keep this short, and most people with action items are AFK, I'll skip that until next week. | 17:24 |
kiall | #topic Havana Release | 17:25 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Havana Release (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:25 | |
kiall | I added this item earlier today, I'd like to see us get a solid release, including .deb's, released over the next few days - before the Summit. | 17:25 |
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kiall | The idea being A) We can mail out to the openstack and openstack-dev lists, possibly getting more traction | 17:26 |
eankutse | I saw those. Looking over them to learn | 17:26 |
eankutse | :-) | 17:26 |
betsy | Sounds like an excellent idea | 17:26 |
betsy | Anything we can do to help? | 17:26 |
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kiall | and B) demo the install at the simmit | 17:27 |
kiall | (sorry - distracting phone call) | 17:27 |
kiall | So - I'm working through getting out deps in sync with the "official havana" list today | 17:27 |
artom2 | enovance will have guys at the summit | 17:27 |
artom2 | some might have deb packaging experience | 17:28 |
betsy | kiall: Are you going to the summit? | 17:28 |
kiall | But, proper testing is going to be tough given the time.. I'd love to get some help from everything making sure it works | 17:28 |
kiall | betsy: yea, leaving on Sunday | 17:28 |
kiall | artom2: .deb's are a personal specialty of mine - you should see what happens when someone puts something unpackaged (aka unclean) on a server I maintain ;) | 17:28 |
kiall | It ain't pretty | 17:29 |
artom2 | hahaha | 17:29 |
artom2 | ok then | 17:29 |
kiall | Anyway - I'm hoping to get the .deb's out, using all the deps from the Ubuntu Havana cloud archive tomorrow morning | 17:29 |
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kiall | But there's no way any of us at HP will have enough time to fully test them before the week is out | 17:30 |
betsy | I'll be happy to help with the testing | 17:30 |
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betsy | Let me know when it's ready and if you want me to test a certain functionality | 17:30 |
kiall | betsy: lifesaver :) | 17:30 |
betsy | or just in general | 17:30 |
artom2 | I can test too | 17:30 |
kiall | artom2: excellent! | 17:31 |
kiall | I'll have some install notes on the install using .deb's, but there probably going to be pretty rough! I'll ping you both tomorrow when there ready | 17:32 |
betsy | kiall: sounds good | 17:32 |
artom2 | k | 17:32 |
kiall | So .. Moving on to part 2 of "Havana Release" - I think now, after cutting a release and announcing, and with the summit soon, is a great time to try and bring in more people and users.. | 17:33 |
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artom2 | I'm about to open up a proof of concept setup with nsd4 over here | 17:34 |
artom2 | so more users | 17:34 |
kiall | I'm hoping to try and "hijack" the "We've released a Havana version" thread to pull people in .. I expect we'll see a bunch of general questions, install help etc type mails after.. I'd love to see everyone answering these and showing people from outside HP are involved :) | 17:34 |
artom2 | albeit in an "existing" company | 17:34 |
kiall | i.e. if your not subscribed to the openstack and openstack-dev lists .. http://lists.openstack.org/ :) | 17:35 |
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artom2 | I'll sub to the list | 17:35 |
betsy | I'm on openstack-dev, but not openstack. | 17:36 |
betsy | I'll add that one | 17:36 |
eankutse | Kiall: good idea. We'll do our best | 17:36 |
kiall | And, all this leads up to post-summit discussion around incubation.. I know RAX is dying to have that one ;) | 17:37 |
artom2 | rack space? | 17:37 |
betsy | Definitely :) | 17:37 |
betsy | artom2: yes | 17:37 |
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kiall | Okay .. So, Graham is still stuck on another call - I know there was some Q's for him around pools etc.. If he's finished up before this, we'll move back to that.. But, for now.. | 17:39 |
kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:39 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:39 | |
kiall | So - Anyone else besides myself going to the Summit? :) | 17:39 |
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betsy | None of us on the Designate project from Rackspace | 17:40 |
betsy | :( | 17:40 |
kiall | Myself and Patrick will be giving a talk on Designate - I'm going to try and squeeze a "Look how easy this is" demo in there to bring some users on, and a general overview of Designate. But .. Does anyone have suggestions for things to cover? | 17:40 |
kiall | betsy: ah well, will Nicole be over again? | 17:41 |
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eankutse | Mention future features - DNSSEC, etc | 17:41 |
betsy | kiall: Nope | 17:41 |
kiall | i.e. what would you guys have found useful to hear at a talk a few months ago :) | 17:41 |
tsimmons | hmmm | 17:42 |
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kiall | eankutse: noted. We have a slide on future but.. nothing to much yet | 17:42 |
kiall | nothing too much* | 17:42 |
betsy | Maybe -- Designate represent's the whole stack -- from API to backend and has extentions for different backends (powerdns, Bind) | 17:43 |
tsimmons | I would have liked to see it in action and a solid overview of the architecture. | 17:43 |
betsy | A demo is always the most helpful | 17:43 |
tsimmons | Perhaps focusing a lot on the future, exciting things that folks can get involved in? | 17:43 |
kiall | tsimmons: yea, that's something we didn't cover too well last year (the demo bit), and I plan on doing a demo from Install -> actually serving traffic | 17:43 |
eankutse | Server Pools to enable Private DNS | 17:43 |
tsimmons | kiall: Nice, that would be cool. | 17:44 |
betsy | kiall: So I assume you're demoing v1? | 17:44 |
kiall | betsy: yea.. I'm going to demo using the client, People can't reason JSON from the other side of the room | 17:44 |
kiall | can't read* | 17:45 |
kiall | tsimmons: yea, I think we had a 50/50 mix of dev and users at the talk last year, so we'll try and use the talk to bring both kinds of people in :) | 17:46 |
kiall | so - other than demo, future and architecture overview - anything else that would have been useful a few months back? (or still might be useful?) | 17:47 |
eankutse | Would it be OK to mention who are currently looking into using Designate? | 17:48 |
tsimmons | For people looking to contribute, a slide or two about the available tools, the client, the docs, guides, launchpad links, stuff like that. That's all standard though. | 17:48 |
kiall | Only if those people give explicit permission to myself or patrick saying it's OK | 17:48 |
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tsimmons | Would it be helpful to say that RAX was involved? | 17:49 |
kiall | So .. Speaking of permission, if anyone here wants to let us drop your company name/logo onto the slides.. drop me and email saying so - kiall@hp.com :) | 17:50 |
kiall | tsimmons: noted, We'll have a bunch of links to that kinda stuff at the end.. But .. I'm thinking we link to http://designate.readthedocs.org/en/latest/related.html | 17:50 |
kiall | and make sure that list is complete in advance | 17:50 |
tsimmons | kiall: that works. | 17:50 |
kiall | tsimmons: I'd love to, if you guys can get me permission to say/use RAX's name :) | 17:50 |
tsimmons | We'll work on it. Our managers aren't in the meeting... | 17:51 |
kiall | tsimmons: sure :) | 17:51 |
kiall | artom: same goes to you ;) | 17:51 |
betsy | kiall: Yeah. We'll ask them to send you something | 17:51 |
artom | I'll ask around :) | 17:51 |
kiall | Totally OK if the answers from mgmt come back as a NO .. It happens ;) | 17:51 |
kiall | Anyway, If we manage to find enough time to finish the slides this week.. I'll drop a link into the openstack-dns room, hopefully you guys can review for us! | 17:52 |
kiall | So .. Any other topics? or more on this? or .. :) | 17:52 |
eankutse | Cool :-) | 17:52 |
eankutse | looking forward to seeing the slides | 17:52 |
artom | Unrelated to summit, but can I push for a decision re import/export API endpoint? | 17:53 |
artom | Or are we missing too many people today? | 17:53 |
kiall | I think the HP crowd prefer the option for using POST /zones with COntent-Type: text/dns etc | 17:54 |
kiall | what do others think? | 17:54 |
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eankutse | Let's go for it | 17:54 |
kiall | (I'm the only HP person here today, everyone else is on holidays or stuck on another call) | 17:54 |
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tsimmons | That's the approach I like as well. | 17:55 |
kiall | Okay .. artom .. the current review uses /zonefile/ correct? | 17:55 |
artom | Yep. | 17:55 |
kiall | I *think* the general consensus is to use POST /zones with COntent-Type: text/dns and GET /zones/{id} with Accept: text/dns | 17:55 |
kiall | Let's update it for that, and we'll get it merged ASAP :) | 17:56 |
artom | Awesomesauce. | 17:56 |
artom | I'll start working on the change. | 17:56 |
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kiall | Thanks! | 17:56 |
eankutse | Mugsie/Kiall: On Server Pools/Async - Would we be departing from any OpenStack conventions if we rename the Pool Scheduler to "Pool Allocator" or "Pool Assigner" or something along those lines? | 17:56 |
kiall | #action kiall to get slides into openstack-dns room as soon as there done. | 17:56 |
kiall | #action kiall to ping artom / betsy with .deb's when completed tomorrow morning | 17:56 |
kiall | #action artom to update import/export review for POST /zones etc rather than POST /zonefiles | 17:57 |
tsimmons | ^ I wasn't here but I'd like to help with that too if you need it. ( The .deb's) | 17:57 |
kiall | eankutse: Yea, I think the scheduler name is pretty embedded in other openstack projects.. | 17:57 |
eankutse | Ok. Thx | 17:58 |
kiall | I actually dislike the name too, but it seems to have stuck elsewhere | 17:58 |
kiall | And, functionally, it's way to similar to nova-scheduler to call it anything else | 17:58 |
eankutse | ok. | 17:58 |
betsy | kiall: Yeah. Even tho it doesn't exactly function as a scheduler, as I think of one | 17:58 |
kiall | tsimmons: great :) I'll ping you too | 17:58 |
betsy | That's what Nova calls it | 17:59 |
kiall | betsy: exactly. Lots of names have been given new meanings within openstack! It's awful, but too late for some things :) | 17:59 |
betsy | kiall: Sad, but true | 18:00 |
kiall | Yup! Okay, Anything else from anywhere else before I close up? Not sure if this room is used now or not :) | 18:00 |
eankutse | done | 18:01 |
betsy | Good luck at the summit! | 18:01 |
artom | I'm not going to the summit, but should I try to get the eNovance people who are going to... I dunno, do something? | 18:01 |
kiall | thanks betsy :) | 18:01 |
kiall | artom: ehh .. | 18:01 |
kiall | no idea :) | 18:01 |
artom | Hah | 18:01 |
kiall | Get them to come to the talk ;) | 18:01 |
artom | I'll bring the Designate/summit thing up to management, they can figure out what to do. | 18:02 |
betsy | I know other Rackspace folks will be there | 18:02 |
betsy | -- at your talk | 18:02 |
kiall | betsy: cool, the more the merrier :) | 18:02 |
kiall | Okay .. I guess that's it then! Thanks all | 18:02 |
kiall | #endmeeting | 18:02 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 30 18:02:34 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:02 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2013/designate.2013-10-30-17.23.html | 18:02 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2013/designate.2013-10-30-17.23.txt | 18:02 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2013/designate.2013-10-30-17.23.log.html | 18:02 |
artom | Have fun in Hong Kong kiall! | 18:02 |
kiall | artom: I'll try :) | 18:02 |
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hub_cap | hi all | 19:59 |
datsun180b | hello | 19:59 |
imsplitbit | o/ | 19:59 |
SlickNik | hey hub_cap | 19:59 |
cp16net | elo | 19:59 |
yogeshmehra | hello | 19:59 |
hub_cap | so i dont see anything on the agenda for this wk. i think itll be a slow meeting | 19:59 |
hub_cap | #startmeeting trove | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 30 20:00:10 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hub_cap. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 20:00 |
grapex | o/ | 20:00 |
cp16net | o^/ | 20:00 |
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SlickNik | o/ | 20:00 |
amcrn | o/ | 20:00 |
kevinconway | o/ o/ o/ o/ | 20:00 |
hub_cap | kevinconway: has multiplied | 20:00 |
hub_cap | #topic action items | 20:01 |
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hub_cap | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-10-23-20.01.html | 20:01 |
hub_cap | grapex to fix issue where instances in BUILDING_ERROR_DNS cannot be deleted. | 20:01 |
grapex | hub_cap: Sorry, was tied up with a few other things. | 20:01 |
hub_cap | k | 20:01 |
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hub_cap | #action grapex to fix issue where instances in BUILDING_ERROR_DNS cannot be deleted. | 20:01 |
hub_cap | datsun180b to make conductor no longer optional | 20:02 |
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datsun180b | working on it | 20:02 |
hub_cap | k | 20:02 |
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hub_cap | write up wiki article wrt testing + tempest + trove <--- fail, i didnt do any of it | 20:02 |
datsun180b | review's up, but i've got one more patchset to push | 20:02 |
SlickNik | yep, some good progress on it datsun180b! | 20:02 |
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hub_cap | but i suspect a good bit will be done at the summit, since SlickNik has a talk on it | 20:02 |
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vipul | o/ | 20:03 |
hub_cap | ok time to move on | 20:03 |
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grapex | hub_cap: make sure your talk isn't just a bunch of sketches of the sea. | 20:03 |
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hub_cap | So... the only thing i have on the list is to talk about the summit | 20:03 |
kevinconway | hub_cap: did you want to retask that item? | 20:03 |
hub_cap | grapex: shit | 20:03 |
imsplitbit | or pictures of chicken and waffles | 20:03 |
SlickNik | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53972/ <= started on some of the pieces to get the ball rolling | 20:03 |
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hub_cap | #action write up wiki article wrt testing + tempest + trove (hub_cap SlickNik) | 20:03 |
hub_cap | #topic talk about the summit | 20:04 |
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hub_cap | so one thing to note | 20:04 |
denis_makogon | o/ | 20:04 |
kevinconway | summit |ˈsəmit| noun | 20:05 |
kevinconway | 1 the highest point of a hill or mountain. | 20:05 |
kevinconway | 2 a meeting between heads of government: | 20:05 |
juice | o/ | 20:05 |
SnowDust | hub_cap : some draft review was shared with you around tempest cli test | 20:05 |
hub_cap | the core team will be mostly radio silent for the next week (starting next week) | 20:05 |
hub_cap | SnowDust: yes for some of it | 20:05 |
hub_cap | im more concerened about the integration tests | 20:05 |
hub_cap | err | 20:05 |
hub_cap | the scenario tests | 20:05 |
SnowDust | ok | 20:05 |
hub_cap | and how to parallelise them | 20:05 |
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cweid | [0] | 20:06 |
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hub_cap | SnowDust: but u should totally add that to the summit session etherpad | 20:06 |
hub_cap | SlickNik: can u link them | 20:06 |
SlickNik | Yes | 20:06 |
SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Trove | 20:06 |
SlickNik | ^^All the summit etherpads | 20:06 |
hub_cap | ok cool | 20:07 |
hub_cap | so does anyone else have anything to really discuss? | 20:08 |
hub_cap | or have questions / comments about the summit | 20:08 |
ashestakov | datastore types? | 20:08 |
vipul | So do we have names for the session leads? | 20:08 |
hub_cap | names vipul? | 20:08 |
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vipul | everyone know which sessions they are leading? | 20:08 |
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vipul | and are there sessions without leads.. that we can assign people to | 20:09 |
hub_cap | oh its the one u submitted :) | 20:09 |
hub_cap | it says "submitted by" | 20:09 |
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vipul | ok.. i know which one i'm doing.. jsut making sure other do too :) | 20:09 |
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hub_cap | #link http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/trove | 20:09 |
* juice is happy to volunteer | 20:09 | |
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amcrn | will the etherpads be updated during the conference? that way folks like myself, who were sabotaged by calendar conflicts, can review them after the fact? | 20:10 |
grapex | I'm leading the Guest Agents in Trove | 20:10 |
SlickNik | amcrn: yes! | 20:10 |
hub_cap | amcrn: yes they will be updated | 20:10 |
amcrn | stellar | 20:10 |
hub_cap | hey whos going to the summit? | 20:10 |
SlickNik | speaking of calendar conflicts. | 20:10 |
hub_cap | id like ot get a feel for whos gonna be there | 20:10 |
vipul | o/ | 20:11 |
juice | o/ | 20:11 |
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hub_cap | \o | 20:11 |
* SlickNik will be there | 20:11 | |
grapex | o/ | 20:11 |
hub_cap | i think isvidriov will be there too, right dmakogon? | 20:11 |
hub_cap | denis_makogon: ^ ^ | 20:11 |
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imsplitbit | I'm stowing away in grapex's luggage | 20:12 |
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denis_makogon | hub_cap, yes | 20:12 |
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hub_cap | imsplitbit: if he packs like you, he will def have enough luggage | 20:12 |
SlickNik | FYI to all going: this year there are _two_ calendars. | 20:13 |
SlickNik | #link http://openstacksummitnovember2013.sched.org/ | 20:13 |
hub_cap | ok so do we have more stuff to talk about wrt the summit? | 20:13 |
SlickNik | #link http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/ | 20:13 |
SlickNik | make sure you look at both when picking which sessions to go to. | 20:13 |
hub_cap | also there is like a 10 minute walk between the 2 sched's | 20:14 |
hub_cap | ok ill open this up to open discussion now | 20:14 |
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hub_cap | #topic open discussion | 20:15 |
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hub_cap | lets chat anything | 20:15 |
SlickNik | I've got something | 20:15 |
imsplitbit | I'll take the mic after SlickNik | 20:15 |
SlickNik | There's a time change coming up this weekend | 20:15 |
hub_cap | lol yes there is | 20:15 |
hub_cap | which means meeting time change right :) | 20:15 |
SlickNik | yup. | 20:16 |
cp16net | silly UTC.... | 20:16 |
hub_cap | for the DST'ers | 20:16 |
cp16net | :-P | 20:16 |
SlickNik | for the DST'ers | 20:16 |
vipul | why can't it always be DST | 20:16 |
hub_cap | arizona, youre not invited to this conversation | 20:16 |
imsplitbit | because when everyone is DST then noone is DST | 20:16 |
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vipul | woah imsplitbit | 20:16 |
kevinconway | it's so kids don't have to wait for the bus in the dark | 20:17 |
grapex | imsplitbit: That's deep | 20:17 |
kevinconway | momma says... | 20:17 |
SlickNik | So is the plan then to keep to the same UTC time? | 20:17 |
hub_cap | maybe we should try another 'redo' w the time | 20:17 |
imsplitbit | no we're moving them to 9am CST | 20:17 |
imsplitbit | right kevinconway | 20:17 |
imsplitbit | ? | 20:17 |
hub_cap | since we actually have multiple continents who are contributing now | 20:17 |
kevinconway | at least imsplitbit | 20:18 |
vipul | so is that 12pm or 2pm for us | 20:18 |
SlickNik | 12 noon, I believe for PST | 20:18 |
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imsplitbit | man I wish I could mozy into work after 10am... | 20:19 |
* imsplitbit is jealous | 20:19 | |
SlickNik | actually let me double check | 20:19 |
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vipul | imsplitbit: you work from home :p | 20:20 |
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hub_cap | so lets keep the same time for now | 20:20 |
SlickNik | yup it's noon | 20:20 |
imsplitbit | vipul: I wish | 20:21 |
SlickNik | I'm fine with it keeping it the same for now. | 20:21 |
SlickNik | Heads up that if you follow DST, the meeting time will be different for next week. | 20:21 |
hub_cap | correct ^ ^ | 20:22 |
vipul | is there a meeting next week? | 20:22 |
vipul | i wonder what time that is in Hong Kong time | 20:22 |
hub_cap | and obvi we skip next wks meeting | 20:22 |
grapex | vipul: I vote we change the meeting time for one week while we're in HKG and then change it back afterwards. Would that be fair? | 20:22 |
vipul | totally | 20:22 |
SlickNik | 4:00 am HKT :) | 20:22 |
datsun180b | isn't putting all the core members in one building the plot of the newest star trek movie | 20:23 |
hub_cap | #link https://www.google.com/search?q=what+time+is+it+in+hong+kong | 20:23 |
imsplitbit | ok so have we decided? | 20:23 |
SnowDust | its 2 AM IST .. my time .. already ! | 20:23 |
imsplitbit | can I get the mic? | 20:23 |
imsplitbit | I'll be relatively quick | 20:23 |
hub_cap | imsplitbit: talk | 20:23 |
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cweid | SPIT IT DAWG | 20:23 |
imsplitbit | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove-Replication-And-Clustering-API | 20:23 |
hub_cap | we will be discussing this in the summit for sure | 20:24 |
imsplitbit | ok well then I'll hold off until it has been discussed | 20:24 |
imsplitbit | see that was fast. | 20:24 |
vipul | I think this is pretty good | 20:25 |
hub_cap | lol imsplitbit | 20:25 |
vipul | don't forsee much change after the summit | 20:25 |
hub_cap | also, just so everyone knows, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54510/ | 20:25 |
hub_cap | that should fix our build | 20:25 |
hub_cap | right SlickNik? | 20:25 |
SlickNik | yup | 20:25 |
imsplitbit | should/can I at least start adding the metadata attribute to the instances?? | 20:25 |
* imsplitbit is chomping at the bit to get started | 20:26 | |
SlickNik | once we have a new pbr pushed to pypi | 20:26 |
hub_cap | imsplitbit: if u want to risk throwing code away, start on anything u want ;) | 20:26 |
grapex | SlickNik: Thanks! | 20:26 |
imsplitbit | dude I just threw away a bunch of code | 20:26 |
imsplitbit | I'm totally ok with that | 20:26 |
imsplitbit | at the risk of getting ahead of the game?? | 20:26 |
imsplitbit | I'll take that | 20:26 |
hub_cap | SlickNik: your review is merged | 20:27 |
ashestakov | guys, can we discuss datastore types review now? | 20:27 |
grapex | PS: I want the mic after ashestakov. | 20:27 |
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imsplitbit | :) | 20:28 |
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SlickNik | hub_cap: waiting for mordred to push a new release to pypi. He said he'd get to it after he gets out of meetings. | 20:28 |
* grapex hands the mic to ashestakov | 20:28 | |
hub_cap | aww grapex u forgot to pick up the mic | 20:28 |
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hub_cap | -10 exp | 20:28 |
ashestakov | vipul: did you saw my answer for your comment? | 20:28 |
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grapex | hub_cap: harsh | 20:28 |
hub_cap | -5 more for whining grapex | 20:29 |
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hub_cap | ashestakov: lets brign up the topic, explain it | 20:29 |
amcrn | where's the talking pillow | 20:29 |
hub_cap | *bring | 20:29 |
ashestakov | ok, this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47936/ | 20:29 |
hub_cap | amcrn: /me needs to watch breaking bad | 20:29 |
ashestakov | commants at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47936/15/troveclient/v1/datastore_types.py L91 | 20:30 |
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amcrn | hub_cap: word | 20:30 |
hub_cap | ashestakov: bring up the topic more than showing links | 20:30 |
hub_cap | whats the issue | 20:30 |
hub_cap | what do u want to talk about | 20:30 |
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grapex | ashestakov: You should probably requote your comments for everyone's convience. | 20:31 |
hub_cap | vipul: whats the issue? | 20:31 |
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ashestakov | will better if vipul describe issue againe, maybe i missung something | 20:31 |
hub_cap | k ashestakov | 20:32 |
hub_cap | vipul: go | 20:32 |
SlickNik | The issue seems to be that there are 2 different routes, one for types and a separate one for versions. | 20:32 |
esp | vipul has stepped away for a min. | 20:32 |
esp | I can go hunt around the office for him | 20:32 |
SlickNik | When really, the versions are linked to the types and not independent of them. | 20:33 |
hub_cap | lol esp we can give him a few min | 20:33 |
vipul | back | 20:33 |
esp | phew, thought I was gonna have to check the restrooms | 20:33 |
SlickNik | lol esp | 20:33 |
kevinconway | so on the type and version deal, what was the reason for not simply using glance images? | 20:33 |
vipul | ok my concern on that was.. why do we need that route? | 20:33 |
vipul | by keeping that route in place we are treating versions as a higher level resource.. | 20:34 |
vipul | if we agree that vesions are sub-resources of Types | 20:34 |
vipul | then a valid route would be /datastore_types/{id}/versions/{v_id} | 20:34 |
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SlickNik | I agree with vipul on this — it hardly makes sense to request a list of all versions without type information. | 20:36 |
robertmyers | SlickNik: vipul: +1 | 20:36 |
amcrn | +1, even if you added a filtering mechanism, the version "belongs" to the type | 20:36 |
ashestakov | SlickNik: you cant list all versions | 20:36 |
ashestakov | SlickNik: only for certain type | 20:37 |
vipul | ashestakov: that route doesn't alllow you to specify the type | 20:37 |
ashestakov | you can list like: trove datastore-verion-list Mysql | 20:37 |
ashestakov | vipul: that route only for one specified version | 20:37 |
amcrn | [13:36:44] <amcrn> +1, even if you added a filtering mechanism, the version "belongs" to the type | 20:38 |
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SlickNik | ashestakov: That's exactly it. I believe, the RESTful way to do this is not to specify it as a separate query param, but have it as part of the URI of the resource. | 20:39 |
robertmyers | +1 versions are a sub resource | 20:39 |
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ashestakov | but if use this /datastore_types/{id}/versions/{v_id}, then need to specify type and version to get info about version | 20:40 |
grapex | ashestakov: There are already cases where people must specify two ids | 20:41 |
vipul | yes.. take for example 'instance' and 'users' | 20:41 |
robertmyers | ashestakov: exactly | 20:41 |
grapex | the database and user calls always force you to specify instance IDs | 20:41 |
ashestakov | ok, that was my single point | 20:41 |
SlickNik | ashestakov: And a GET on /datastore_types/{id}/versions would list all version of a particular datastore type. | 20:41 |
ashestakov | yes | 20:42 |
ashestakov | if decided, ill fix it | 20:42 |
ashestakov | any other issues? | 20:42 |
vipul | ok cool | 20:42 |
vipul | nope looks good otherwise | 20:42 |
ashestakov | will you approve it? | 20:43 |
vipul | maybe | 20:43 |
vipul | of course :P | 20:43 |
SlickNik | if you fix it, they will come :) | 20:43 |
amcrn | i'll but this on the review, but why datastore_types vs. datastores | 20:43 |
amcrn | s/but/put | 20:43 |
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vipul | amcrn yea that's a good point | 20:44 |
vipul | type seems redundant | 20:44 |
hub_cap | lol @ amcrn where were u like a wk ago | 20:45 |
amcrn | dealing with internal infra stuff :P | 20:45 |
amcrn | sowwy | 20:45 |
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hub_cap | so ashestakov its called a datastore { "type".., "version"..} in the create, right? | 20:46 |
ashestakov | hub_cap: yes | 20:46 |
vipul | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47936/15/troveclient/v1/instances.py | 20:46 |
vipul | seems to be | 20:46 |
hub_cap | see to me, if we are putting that "datastore" as the object, it should also be the collection, like /datastores, and should return type and avail versions in a single call | 20:46 |
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kevinconway | do we really want to call it datastore? i like informationstation | 20:48 |
grapex | kevinconway: Oh my God that's pefect! | 20:48 |
hub_cap | kevinconway: lol | 20:48 |
ashestakov | it killing me | 20:49 |
hub_cap | informationstation: { dial1: blah, dial2: blah} | 20:49 |
amcrn | hub_cap: so to summarize: /datastores is a summary of all datastores, /datastores/:id is a summary of one datastore, /datastores/:id/versions is for a list of versions for one datastore, and /datastores/:id/versions/:id is the verbose information for a particular version of a datastore | 20:49 |
hub_cap | yes | 20:49 |
hub_cap | ill let yall duke it out after todays stuff | 20:49 |
amcrn | ok, just typing it out for posterity's sake | 20:50 |
vipul | amcrn: +1 | 20:50 |
SlickNik | amcrn: I like that | 20:50 |
cp16net | sounds logical | 20:50 |
hub_cap | id almost say that amcrn should do the work to fix it tho since hes so late to the party | 20:50 |
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cp16net | heh | 20:50 |
hub_cap | poor ashestakov has been going rounds w/ it already | 20:50 |
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amcrn | +/u/bitcointip @ashestakov $1 | 20:51 |
grapex | hub_cap: I | 20:51 |
grapex | 'd like to discuss something | 20:51 |
hub_cap | grapex: K | 20:51 |
ashestakov | i think just datastores is confusing | 20:51 |
hub_cap | ashestakov: amcrn duke it out after the meeting in #openstack-trove | 20:52 |
grapex | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54565/ <-- This is a tiny fix for backups and the testing of backups. | 20:52 |
SlickNik | grapex: I'll take a look this afternoon. | 20:52 |
grapex | SlickNik: Thanks | 20:52 |
robertmyers | I have a slightly larger review, which could use some eyes | 20:53 |
robertmyers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53381/ | 20:53 |
robertmyers | Basically removing a bunch of tests that are Rackspace specific and general cleanup | 20:53 |
amcrn | nice | 20:53 |
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* SlickNik will spend some time reviewing tests this afternoon/evening. | 20:55 | |
* SlickNik adds robertmyers review to list | 20:55 | |
hub_cap | ok so we good to go? | 20:55 |
kevinconway | did we decide on if we're having a meeting next week? | 20:55 |
robertmyers | SlickNik: thanks! | 20:55 |
cp16net | there is a list of reviews on the site too :-P | 20:55 |
hub_cap | kevinconway: no meeting | 20:55 |
hub_cap | by decree of me | 20:55 |
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SlickNik | I know cp16net, I'm gonna take a look at everything that looks ready for review. | 20:56 |
kevinconway | decree |diˈkrē| noun | 20:56 |
kevinconway | an official order issued by a legal authority. | 20:56 |
kevinconway | verb | 20:56 |
kevinconway | order (something) by decree: | 20:56 |
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cp16net | i can make them show up at the top | 20:56 |
kevinconway | LGTM | 20:56 |
cp16net | well the gate needs to be rerun on everything... | 20:56 |
hub_cap | #endmeeting | 20:56 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 30 20:56:43 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-10-30-20.00.html | 20:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-10-30-20.00.txt | 20:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-10-30-20.00.log.html | 20:56 |
hub_cap | cu guys one way or another next wk! | 20:56 |
grapex | Bye! | 20:57 |
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esp | thx! | 20:57 |
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SlickNik | later guys | 20:58 |
SlickNik | thanks! | 20:58 |
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