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| kgriffs | who's here to talk marconi? | 16:03 |
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| * kgriffs watches a tumbleweed roll by | 16:04 | |
| flwang | o/ | 16:04 |
| flwang | is it meeting time? | 16:05 |
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| kgriffs | flwang: yo | 16:08 |
| kgriffs | yes, but looks like a lot of people are on holiday | 16:08 |
| kgriffs | flaper87 is coming I think, waiting for him | 16:08 |
| flwang | kgriffs: hey | 16:08 |
| flwang | ok, sure | 16:08 |
| flwang | I'm Fei Long Wang, I'm always working on Glance as a core member | 16:09 |
| kgriffs | cool | 16:09 |
| flwang | recently, flaper87 invited me to join Marconi to find some fun :) | 16:09 |
| kgriffs | welcome! | 16:09 |
| flwang | haha, thanks | 16:09 |
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| kgriffs | standard issue ^^^ | 16:10 |
| flwang | hehe, I had taken one at the summit | 16:10 |
| flwang | it's a cool t-shirt, i mean the diagram | 16:11 |
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| flwang | oh, btw, may I get the chart you shown in the summit session? | 16:11 |
| kgriffs | glad u like it. We had to scramble to make those last-minute | 16:11 |
| flwang | seems it has not been uploaded to the website yet | 16:12 |
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| kgriffs | flwang: oh, the slides from the talk? | 16:12 |
| flwang | yep | 16:12 |
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| kgriffs | funny you should ask... | 16:12 |
| kgriffs | :p | 16:12 |
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| kgriffs | the laptop those were on was a loaner and for some reason dropbox foobarred on me, so I am trying to track down a copy. | 16:13 |
| flwang | hehe, ok, it would be nice if you can upload it or send it to me directly :) flwang@cn.ibm.com | 16:13 |
| kgriffs | will do | 16:13 |
| flwang | cool, thanks | 16:14 |
| flwang | kgriffs: so what's the direction of Marconi in Icehouse? Any low-hanging-stuff I can involve? | 16:15 |
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| kgriffs | my first thought was there is some polishing we are doing on the API - we would like to release a 1.1 for icehouse | 16:16 |
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| kgriffs | but, there is some API implementation refactoring going on at the moment | 16:16 |
| kgriffs | that will need to happen first | 16:16 |
| kgriffs | we have an intern working with flaper87 on that | 16:17 |
| kgriffs | let me see what else there is... | 16:18 |
| flwang | okay | 16:18 |
| kgriffs | heat templates | 16:19 |
| kgriffs | horizon integration | 16:19 |
| kgriffs | misc. performance optimizations (ensuring mongo queries are using indexes properly, a few other odds and ends) | 16:20 |
| kgriffs | we can also always use help with reviews | 16:20 |
| kgriffs | and flaper87 could maybe use some help on the client | 16:21 |
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| flwang | sure, I will review the code | 16:22 |
| kgriffs | flwang: just got the word that flaper87 will be a few more mins - got pulled into a call | 16:23 |
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| flwang | ok | 16:23 |
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| kgriffs | flwang: btw, where are you located? | 16:25 |
| kgriffs | (so I can get a feel for timezone and stuff) | 16:25 |
| flwang | Beijing, China | 16:25 |
| kgriffs | (I am in Austin, TX) | 16:25 |
| kgriffs | flwang: kk | 16:25 |
| flwang | cool | 16:25 |
| flwang | seems there is no east sphere guys working on Marconi | 16:26 |
| kgriffs | flwang: oh wow, you are up late! | 16:26 |
| flwang | yep, my time is 12:27 am now | 16:27 |
| kgriffs | Maybe we can move the marconi mtg back an hour or two | 16:28 |
| flwang | because i have to catch those community guys, you know, most of you guys live in west sphere :) | 16:28 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: ^^^ | 16:28 |
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| flaper87 | that sounds good to me | 16:28 |
| flaper87 | :D | 16:29 |
| flwang | or i should move to west sphere :) | 16:29 |
| flaper87 | 15 UTC ? | 16:29 |
| kgriffs | let me check with the guys in ATL | 16:29 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: but you're -7 | 16:29 |
| flaper87 | right ? | 16:29 |
| kgriffs | -6 | 16:30 |
| kgriffs | I can do 8 or 9am my time | 16:30 |
| kgriffs | that would be 1400 or 1500 UTC | 16:30 |
| flaper87 | flwang: 15 UTC, I think is 23 flwang time | 16:31 |
| kgriffs | let me check for conflicts with other projects | 16:31 |
| flaper87 | cool | 16:31 |
| flwang | oh, I don't want to cause any inconvenience for you guys | 16:31 |
| flwang | 15UTC is ok for me | 16:31 |
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| kgriffs | no conflicts that I can see from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings | 16:32 |
| kgriffs | only -alt mtg besides us on mondays is at 1900 | 16:32 |
| kgriffs | that means we can have longer meetings | 16:32 |
| kgriffs | ;) | 16:32 |
| kgriffs | flwang: I'm sure flaper87 wouldn't mind if it were earlier in the day | 16:33 |
| flaper87 | w000000000h000000000000000 | 16:33 |
| flwang | cool, thanks guys. hope my contributions (the coming) is deserved the changing for me :) | 16:34 |
| kgriffs | ok, let me see how the ATL guys feel about it... | 16:35 |
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| kgriffs | flwang: hopefully we can also encourage more people outside the US to contribute as well! | 16:35 |
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| flwang | yep, at least count me in :) | 16:36 |
| flaper87 | flwang: +1 | 16:36 |
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| flaper87 | flwang: hope to see you becoming core soon! | 16:36 |
| flaper87 | :) | 16:36 |
| kgriffs | so far we have US, Israel, Italy, and now China properly represented. :D | 16:37 |
| flwang | flaper87: yep, but seems there are a few patches can be reviewed :) | 16:37 |
| kgriffs | reviews++ | 16:37 |
| flaper87 | flwang: +1 | 16:37 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: are you available to to chat about notifications? | 16:38 |
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| kgriffs | guys, I think we better go ahead and call off today's mtg. We are missing a few key people who should be in on the notifications discussion. | 16:51 |
| kgriffs | They should be back in the saddle next Monday | 16:51 |
| kgriffs | flaper87, flwang: ^^^ | 16:51 |
| flwang | i'm ok | 16:53 |
| flwang | i will join again next week | 16:53 |
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| sadasu | #startmeeting PCI passthrough | 19:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 25 19:03:14 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sadasu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: PCI passthrough)" | 19:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 19:03 |
| sadasu | #chair baoli | 19:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: baoli sadasu | 19:03 |
| irenab | hi | 19:03 |
| baoli | hi everyone, welcome to the meeting | 19:03 |
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| baoli | now that we have a google doc:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EMwDg9J8zOxzvTnQJ9HwZdiotaVstFWKIuKrPse6JOs/edit?usp=sharing | 19:04 |
| sadasu | #topic design google doc | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "design google doc (Meeting topic: PCI passthrough)" | 19:04 | |
| baoli | can we go through the following?1: Any questions with current nova-passthrough 2: define pci assignable list on compute nodes: -- associate a device with a 'group' -- define pci-devfilter -- device 'feature' auto-discovery -- pci alias no longer defined on controller 3: scheduling -- based on 'group' -- pci requester -- lci passthrough onl | 19:04 |
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| baoli | first of all, any questions with current nova-passthrough implementation? | 19:05 |
| irenab | good summary in doc, no question from me | 19:06 |
| baoli | thanks, irenab. Looks like that we are all on the same page with the current nova-passthrough | 19:08 |
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| sadasu | regarding what is currently being proposed, appears everyone wants pci-alias | 19:11 |
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| sadasu | to be pci-group | 19:11 |
| sadasu | is that correct? | 19:11 |
| baoli | let's move on to the pci assignable list on the compute node | 19:11 |
| baoli | yes, pci-groug seems to be the term to go | 19:12 |
| baoli | sorry , pci-group | 19:12 |
| irenab | I am confused about terms that used for compute and controller | 19:12 |
| irenab | we use pci_alias for Controller and pci-group for compute? | 19:12 |
| baoli | compute node runs nova-compute, and controler runs nova-scheduler/nova-api | 19:13 |
| baoli | we are suggesting that PCI alias is no longer defined on the controller | 19:14 |
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| irenab | @baoli: no longer defined at all? | 19:14 |
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| irenab | pci-group will be used instead? | 19:15 |
| baoli | yes | 19:15 |
| baoli | an assignable list per compute node: <pci-devfilter, pci-group> | 19:15 |
| baoli | pci-group has cloud significance | 19:16 |
| irenab | @baoli: just to be sure, its up to admin to manage properly per each compute node? | 19:17 |
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| baoli | pci-group (the name, and it's underlying implementation) is defined cloud wise, mapping from devices per compute node is defined by the assignable list. | 19:18 |
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| irenab | @baoli: so pci-group will be used for scheduling purposes, while pci-devfilter will be used for getting the list of suitable devices on compute? | 19:20 |
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| baoli | That sounds about right to me. pci-group is used for both scheduling and actual allocation on the compute node that is to run the instance. It's also used by the feature to map to the physical network in the case of neutron | 19:21 |
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| irenab | @baoli: can you please define what you mean by feature? | 19:22 |
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| irenab | is it something like device-type in current implementation? | 19:23 |
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| baoli | I can not find a right term for it. But yes, it is similar to the device-type. On the other hand, it means neutron (for network), and possbile cinder (for storage), for example | 19:24 |
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| irenab | @baoli: so there is a predefined list of 'features' as you stated. | 19:26 |
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| baoli | That's the current thinking if device 'feature' auto-discovery is possible. It's possible for network devices since they are all mapped to ethernet interfaces on a linux host | 19:27 |
| irenab | I think it will be correct to say they are mapped to network interfaces, but not mandatory to ethernet. | 19:28 |
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| irenab | we have Infiniband interfaces if NIC connected to IB physical network | 19:29 |
| baoli | with mellanox, you mentioned infiniband type of interface. how are they represented in the linux device hierarchy? | 19:29 |
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| sadasu | irenab: yes, network interfaces and not a specific type of network interface | 19:29 |
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| irenab | @baoli: I'll put an example on the google doc tomorrow once have access to the machine | 19:30 |
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| itzikb | @baoli: You mean under /sys/class/net ? | 19:31 |
| baoli | #itzikb, yes | 19:31 |
| itzikb | @baoli: ib0,ib1 etc .. | 19:31 |
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| irenab | @baili: with link to actual device like the ethernet if | 19:32 |
| baoli | That sounds ok to me because following the symbolic link leads to an pci device and it's within the class 'net' | 19:33 |
| irenab | @baoli: correct | 19:33 |
| itzikb | @baoli: So the thinking is to go over /sys/class/net in the network 'feature' ? | 19:34 |
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| baoli | So if libvirt does it, we can use it as yl has commented on the doc. otherwise, I don't know why we can't as long as 'sys/class/net' is a portable implementation | 19:35 |
| itzikb | I think libvirt has it - but probably someone can correct me if I'm wrong | 19:36 |
| irenab | #baoli: I think both ways should work as long as there is no assumption for specific (Ethernet) network type | 19:37 |
| baoli | #itzikb, I didn't find it from the version of libvirt I have. Maybe the lastest libvirt version support that. Regardless, it's possible to figure out the 'class' of a pci device | 19:37 |
| baoli | And subsequently use that device for the feature | 19:38 |
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| irenab | my feeling that community will favor libvirt, but since here we have more than one way to solve, may continue to other item? | 19:39 |
| baoli | cool | 19:40 |
| baoli | let's discuss pci-devfilter | 19:40 |
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| baoli | does the name/term sound right to you guys? | 19:41 |
| irenab | #baoli: seems fine | 19:42 |
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| irenab | I think we miss here yongli who had some concerns | 19:43 |
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| baoli | #irenab, i'm hoping to have a meeting time that he can join | 19:44 |
| baoli | Any questions on scheduling? | 19:45 |
| sadasu | before that, I think there were concerns about the pci-devfilter format | 19:45 |
| irenab | @baoli: can we discuss a bit the request part prior to scheduling? | 19:46 |
| baoli | Sure | 19:46 |
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| sadasu | the goal here is not having the admin to keep entering repetitive fields | 19:47 |
| baoli | #sadasu, agreed | 19:48 |
| baoli | you can use * or range for each field, and the later parts can be missing | 19:48 |
| sadasu | I did not understand, yongli's concern here or even if he has a concern | 19:48 |
| sadasu | Ian does not seem to like the format | 19:49 |
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| baoli | #sadasu, it's just an option. it's open for better ideas | 19:49 |
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| irenab | #sadasu: Does he have some suggestion? | 19:50 |
| sadasu | baoli: agreed. I am just trying to understand the concerns so we can make it better | 19:50 |
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| irenab | @baoli: can you please explain the way you see admin request for VM with PCI device as vNIC on net1 on physical network=phynet? | 19:51 |
| sadasu | @irenab: not sure. | 19:51 |
| irenab | @baoli: I mean define any extra-spec on flavor, neutron-port is precreated, etc. | 19:52 |
| baoli | @irenab, sure. Assuming it's using VLAN | 19:52 |
| baoli | when you create a neutron network, it's assigned a vlan and thus mapped to the physical net, agreed? | 19:53 |
| irenab | @baoili: does not matter. I mean what managment operations admin does | 19:53 |
| irenab | he created network on phynet and it was allocated with VLAN. | 19:54 |
| irenab | Then he creates port with vnic_type SRIOV? | 19:54 |
| baoli | --nic net-id=<neutron net associated with physical net>, vnic-type=sriov | 19:55 |
| baoli | --nic net-id= <neutron net associated with phynet>, vnic-type=sriov, pci-group=net1 | 19:56 |
| irenab | @baoli: great. That's all? Or he should also define extra-spec for some flavor? | 19:56 |
| baoli | no | 19:56 |
| irenab | @baoli: meaning, that's all? | 19:57 |
| baoli | yes, no flavor is needed | 19:57 |
| baoli | I mean no flavor is needed for networking purpose | 19:57 |
| irenab | @baoli: great, thanks. | 19:57 |
| baoli | #irenab, would it work for mellanox? | 19:58 |
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| irenab | @baoli: for what we have discussed till now, seems very generic and will work. | 19:59 |
| baoli | I think that our time is up shortly. #itzikb, please let me know how to retrieve device 'class' or 'type' from libvirt if you find out. | 19:59 |
| baoli | #irenab, are you able to edit the google doc? | 20:00 |
| irenab | @baoli: for the rest described in doc regarding libvirt and neutron, we need to elaborate more | 20:00 |
| baoli | @irenab, I will try, or if you can edit, go ahead to edit it with what you think would clarify | 20:00 |
| sadasu | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
| itzikb | @baoli: sure | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 25 20:01:18 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2013/pci_passthrough.2013-11-25-19.03.html | 20:01 |
| irenab | @baoli: seems that I can only insert comment | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2013/pci_passthrough.2013-11-25-19.03.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2013/pci_passthrough.2013-11-25-19.03.log.html | 20:01 |
| baoli | thanks everyone for attending | 20:01 |
| irenab | thank you | 20:01 |
| sadasu | thanks | 20:02 |
| itzikb | thanks | 20:03 |
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