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| baoli | #startmeeting PCI Passthrough | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 7 14:00:49 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 14:00 |
| heyongli | hello | 14:00 |
| ijw | o/ | 14:00 |
| baoli | hello, everyone | 14:01 |
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| irenab | hi | 14:01 |
| baoli | Let's wait for a couple of more minutes | 14:02 |
| heyongli | seems John not here, | 14:02 |
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| baoli | He asked about this week's meeting time | 14:02 |
| baoli | I was hoping that he would join | 14:02 |
| ijw | Mailed him, anyway | 14:03 |
| baoli | thanks, ijw | 14:03 |
| baoli | About today's agenda, I sent an email to the mailing list. | 14:04 |
| ijw | I wondered if we could do it a slightly different way, work out what we agree on and get those bits moving | 14:04 |
| heyongli | i missed that, could you please paste here , sorry | 14:05 |
| heyongli | ijw, +1 | 14:05 |
| ijw | baoli's mail basically said we should try and clear up what we're not settled on | 14:05 |
| irenab | baoli: regarding daily meeting, do you want to suggest time? | 14:05 |
| baoli | Same time? | 14:05 |
| ijw | We probably need our own channel for it | 14:06 |
| irenab | baoli: one hour earlier better | 14:06 |
| baoli | Irenab, that sounds good to me. | 14:06 |
| heyongli | what's your guys time? i also want earlier one hour,but yunhong will miss this | 14:06 |
| baoli | Yes, it's not a good time for Yunhong | 14:07 |
| ijw | I'm CET so I'm easy | 14:07 |
| ijw | This is midafternoon | 14:07 |
| baoli | Regarding the agenda, we should agree on the key design points, which we havn't been able to achieve yet. | 14:07 |
| baoli | Let's get started | 14:08 |
| irenab | I am at GMT+2 | 14:08 |
| ijw | I guess we'll want to skip Friday too, irenab? | 14:08 |
| irenab | and Saturday :) | 14:09 |
| baoli | So agreed, let's do one hour earlier. It will be great if yunhong can join. Otherwise, he can comment on the logs. | 14:09 |
| irenab | baoli: agree | 14:09 |
| ijw | cool | 14:09 |
| heyongli | sure | 14:09 |
| baoli | #topic auto discovery | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "auto discovery (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 14:10 | |
| ijw | Right, what we agree on is that we need to find all the PCI devices, match them by a match expression, and then assign a group/flavor/whatever we like to call it to them | 14:10 |
| baoli | two key points: first, discover class of VFs; second, define default pci groups based on their class | 14:11 |
| ijw | How would you mark a PCI device as being up for discovery and passthrough without also labelling it a group? (I know you covered this but remind me) | 14:12 |
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| irenab | I also want to verify if we consider auto-discovery as a show stopper, since if we can provide a way to use deployment tools to define these groups it can be resolved later. | 14:14 |
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| baoli | ijw, one simple way is to set a nova config variable, something like sriov_auto = true. Once that's said, all the SRIOV VFs will be used for PCI passthrough. by doing so, configuration of whitelist is not required | 14:14 |
| ijw | OK - but that's a refinement too, really (nice but not necessary) | 14:14 |
| ijw | irenab: I don't think it's the end of the world if we don't have it, but heyongli, yunhong and co have already done most of the discovery work in the sense of finding devices, I thought, it's just a matter of how we use the information that's up for debate | 14:15 |
| irenab | ijw: OK. | 14:15 |
| baoli | ijw, configuration of whitelist with some matching criteria as descibed in the google doc will be a separate task. | 14:16 |
| heyongli | ijw: yeah, auto discory the class can group by the class's name | 14:16 |
| ijw | OK. | 14:16 |
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| baoli | guys, let's focus on the two points I mentioned earlier. | 14:17 |
| heyongli | discover class of VF: sure | 14:17 |
| irenab | so for networking , how the auto-discovered VFs will be used with neutron? | 14:17 |
| ijw | baoli: your points are great but they wouldn't solve my use cases - we either need the static list that irenab is talking about or the dynamic list based on autodiscovery and both of those fairly promptly, I'm afraid | 14:17 |
| irenab | PCI-group = net? | 14:18 |
| heyongli | yeah | 14:18 |
| ijw | irenab: I think baoli's case is the simplest one for now, where all network devices are equivalent, then we refine the code from there | 14:18 |
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| baoli | irenab, if a VF has a 'net' class, then it's used for networking. We define a default group called "network" | 14:19 |
| baoli | So the second point is that a SRIOV VF belongs to a default (or pre-defined) group | 14:19 |
| irenab | baoli: so actually need to make sure that there is only one SRIOV NIC on the Host? | 14:19 |
| ijw | And you have to use VFs, and you have to be careful that your Openstack control interfaces are *not* VFs - which is why I think that's quite a limited use case | 14:19 |
| baoli | Irenab, it doesn't have to be | 14:20 |
| heyongli | irenab: you can group by 'net' and the 'PF' | 14:20 |
| baoli | ijw, the rest can be built on top of that | 14:20 |
| ijw | baoli: I couldn't test what you're proposing | 14:20 |
| irenab | heyongli: understand | 14:20 |
| baoli | ijw, can you elaborate? | 14:21 |
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| ijw | You'd need VF configured NICs which I generally don't have on the machines I have handy | 14:21 |
| baoli | ijw, can be give more details? | 14:22 |
| ijw | Which is why I'd like to get to the case where we can pick and choose our groups quite quickly. | 14:22 |
| baoli | About your machine, what do you mean about VF configured NICs? | 14:22 |
| ijw | I'd like to help with the testing and dev, but if we can't pass through an entire PCI device that's not operating in SRIOV then that's not going to be possible | 14:22 |
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| irenab | ijw: for our case, only VF is relevant as vNICs | 14:23 |
| heyongli | ijw: pass through the PF is also be possible, why we can not ? | 14:23 |
| heyongli | jiw, even not VF enabled | 14:23 |
| ijw | We can, absolutely, but I think baoli's proposing that we automatically detect and group NICs that are VFs and call that the starting point. A better way of phrasing what I'm saying is - that's totally fine, but I think we have to move on from there quickly | 14:24 |
| irenab | ijw: are talking about PCI for networking or general one? | 14:24 |
| ijw | Right, I'm derailing this. Ignore what I said. I would sooner see us take the step forward. baoli, let's do what you suggest. | 14:25 |
| heyongli | with autodiscovry the class utilize the whitelist group, we can flexable define the group in any way you want | 14:26 |
| baoli | ijw, thanks. in a matter of fact, if we have enough helping hand, whitelist configuration with match cretaria can be worked on in the same time | 14:26 |
| baoli | Yongli, let's discuss that shortly | 14:27 |
| heyongli | baoli: +1 | 14:27 |
| baoli | Sounds like that we'll be doing auto discovery with predefined pci groups? | 14:28 |
| ijw | I would see baoli's case as ultimately being a default rule in the grouping that we override, by the time we've finished - sound about right? | 14:28 |
| heyongli | baoli: i don't like predefined group,just let whitelist do that | 14:29 |
| irenab | heyongli: can you elaborate? | 14:29 |
| baoli | ijw, whitelist configuration can use any pci group that is created | 14:29 |
| baoli | yongli, default or predefined pci group is the basis of the discussion | 14:30 |
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| heyongli | why predefine? in whitelist you say "class=net group to a" is better | 14:30 |
| ijw | So to clarify terms, we're talking about a whitelist being the matching expression and the group as being the tag the matching expression assigns, right? | 14:30 |
| baoli | ijw, correct | 14:30 |
| heyongli | so, it's sound group defined by a pre defined group, this group just a 'class' 's name, this not neccessary | 14:31 |
| heyongli | perfer "class=net group to a" style | 14:32 |
| ijw | heyongli: how close is that to working right now? | 14:32 |
| baoli | yongli, doing that will allow a user to use SRIOV without configuring any thing | 14:32 |
| heyongli | ijw: ready | 14:32 |
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| ijw | The baoli can propose a set of default rules and we can debate the wisdom in a separate patch, can't we? | 14:33 |
| heyongli | ijw: +1 | 14:33 |
| ijw | Saves us taking the meeting up | 14:33 |
| irenab | heyongli: ca yu please share how net class is managed now? | 14:34 |
| heyongli | net class is not ready | 14:34 |
| baoli | Cool. One key point that I want to make is that the entire implementation should be based on PCI group | 14:34 |
| heyongli | net class belong to auto discovery class we discuss here . | 14:35 |
| ijw | baoli: +1 | 14:35 |
| heyongli | +1 | 14:35 |
| baoli | Great! | 14:35 |
| ijw | One big point of debate was whether the group/whitelist should be in the database or on the compute node. You know my opinion but where do we stand on that? | 14:36 |
| baoli | We'll have predefined pci groups, and user can explictely define groups | 14:36 |
| baoli | ijw, let's come to that | 14:36 |
| heyongli | any way they should saved in db | 14:36 |
| heyongli | only disagree is if we allow API to modify that | 14:37 |
| baoli | #topic pci group | 14:37 |
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| baoli | Agreed on predefined pci groups? | 14:37 |
| heyongli | -1 | 14:37 |
| baoli | we'll have "net" for SRIOV | 14:37 |
| irenab | baoli: based on class, yes | 14:37 |
| irenab | baoli: any other criteria? | 14:38 |
| heyongli | with the autodiscovery, we will had the new pci device k,v: class='net' | 14:38 |
| ijw | I don't like them, but as I said, I think they can be implemented after the general case | 14:38 |
| baoli | irenab, not really. | 14:39 |
| heyongli | with this property, i suggest define group in the whitelist | 14:40 |
| baoli | ijw, like I said before, it's the basis of the design. Please allow me to finish my thoughts on this | 14:41 |
| heyongli | if use some pre define group, this may need configuration this: is it be enable | 14:41 |
| heyongli | baoli, go on | 14:41 |
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| baoli | ok. So you have predefine pci groups, and you may or may not have user defined pci groups. A SRIOV device will anyway belong to a pci group. | 14:42 |
| baoli | Therefore, you have everything in place to support PCI groups | 14:43 |
| ijw | An SRIOV device may not want to be in a PCI group. I could be using it for things other than passthrough. | 14:43 |
| ijw | Which is fine if the default can be disabled. | 14:43 |
| baoli | ijw, correct. | 14:43 |
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| heyongli | ijw: +2 | 14:43 |
| baoli | that's when the whitelist kicks in | 14:43 |
| irenab | so maybe we need an exclude list? | 14:43 |
| baoli | irenab, that' s good idea too | 14:44 |
| ijw | But that's not the question. The question is, clearly this default is one line in heyongli's scheme. And I presumably need one line of config to enable it in the first place. Why is it worth adding? | 14:44 |
| heyongli | exclude: no , we had a simple regular expresion support all value, | 14:44 |
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| heyongli | ijw: good point | 14:45 |
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| irenab | coming back to the basic requirement, we need to find and bind VF to specific physical network (can be defined by PF on each compute node). What should be defined with regards to VFs suitable for allocation? | 14:46 |
| irenab | with as much as less configuration definitions | 14:46 |
| ijw | irenab: I see three possibilities for network binding. One, all net devices in one group are bound to the same physical network. Two, Neutron does the binding and programs the PF to do it. Three, Neutron does the binding and needs some arbitrary information to do it (like switch port). | 14:47 |
| heyongli | irenab: if we requement more and more pre defined thing, ... this is not worthy | 14:47 |
| irenab | ijw: I am not talking about configuration, but allocation | 14:48 |
| ijw | How do you mean, allocation? | 14:48 |
| irenab | nova should pick the VF, neutron should be responsible to configure it | 14:48 |
| baoli | ijw, yongli, the point is that with predefined pci groups, you don't need to configure whitelist | 14:48 |
| heyongli | nova pick the vf, just by the requiments, not care what it is | 14:49 |
| heyongli | all define in whitelist | 14:49 |
| heyongli | baoli: i know, that's not worthy and redundant | 14:49 |
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| baoli | yongli, if it's a pre existing knowledge, why do you need to add the line you proposed into the whitelist? is it a special syntax? | 14:50 |
| ijw | baoli: your proposal is a refinement to save the Openstack configurer from adding a specific whitelist to match all network VFs because it makes the config a bit simpler for a commonly encountered case, right? | 14:50 |
| baoli | ijw, not really | 14:50 |
| baoli | ijw, it's good for both the coding and the admin | 14:51 |
| ijw | irenab: on your allocation point, what precisely were you getting at? | 14:51 |
| heyongli | baoli, i think ijw 's description is your idea exactly , to me | 14:51 |
| heyongli | not good for coding, definitely | 14:51 |
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| irenab | ijw: just seems that I am ot following what need to be managed for the simp,e networking case that I need a VM with VF NIC | 14:52 |
| heyongli | you will need more configration to define your pregroup | 14:52 |
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| irenab | ijw: scheduler should be able to choose the suitable Host to bring up the VM, meaning that it has access to this network and has available VF | 14:53 |
| baoli | yongli, do you need a special syntax for it? | 14:53 |
| irenab | ijw: this part is before neutron invocation | 14:53 |
| ijw | OK, so this is just how we specify we need a NIC and then how we find somewhere that's got one forus | 14:54 |
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| heyongli | baoli: this pre define group, if you coding, that is not worthy just to avoid a simple configration in whitelist | 14:54 |
| baoli | yongli, can you explain why? | 14:55 |
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| irenab | ijw: for this case, we do not want the admin to go to each Host and configure white lists, right? | 14:55 |
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| irenab | baoli: we are running out of time. Please, send an update on time and place (IRC chanel) for next meeting. | 14:57 |
| heyongli | baoli: i just think that is not necessary, that would help admin a lot, even a little bit more constrain to be added to the pre defined group, and in this way, whitelist is more mass | 14:57 |
| baoli | Well, time is almost up. Let's wrap up for today, and we'll resume UTC 1300 tomorrow. | 14:57 |
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| baoli | Agreed? | 14:58 |
| ijw | irenab: actually, yes, I think we do - that's what an admin would do with provider networks, for instance, and hosts are not all identical | 14:58 |
| irenab | ijw: any tool cna be used here? | 14:58 |
| ijw | It's better that, when you add a new compute noe to the cluster, it brings its configuration with it, rather than that configuration being stored in the DB | 14:58 |
| irenab | ijw: agree | 14:58 |
| baoli | I think that we are confusing ourself with different use cases | 14:58 |
| ijw | irenab: when I do installs I use puppet, which makes it easy to set multiple machines up with the same, correct config, so storing it centrally in Openstack gets you nothing | 14:59 |
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| irenab | baoli: I guess we better put the list of use cases and go one by one | 14:59 |
| ijw | If you're adventurous you can use an autodiscovery tool that audits the machine before it installs things and chooses config accordingly | 14:59 |
| baoli | If you think about it, we can cover all the use cases discussed today with: predefined PCI groups, user-defined PCI groups, whitelist configuration. | 15:00 |
| baoli | irenab: sure | 15:00 |
| sc68cal | might have to take this into neutron - got a meeting at 10AM for the ipv6 team | 15:00 |
| ijw | I think that's the time you'd want to get that sort of configuring done, not with an openstack API (and heyongli, this was my problem with a lot of the API you had) | 15:00 |
| heyongli | ijw: good to know that | 15:00 |
| irenab | ijw: need more clarification :) | 15:00 |
| baoli | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 7 15:00:13 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-01-07-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-01-07-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-01-07-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| ijw | Maybe we could focus on that tomorrow | 15:00 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 7 15:00:40 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| heyongli | sure, see you next meeting | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ipv6)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:00 |
| ijw | yo Sean | 15:00 |
| sc68cal | Good morning! | 15:00 |
| aveiga | hello | 15:00 |
| ijw | it was | 15:00 |
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| xuhanp | hello, Xu Han is here | 15:01 |
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| sc68cal | Good Evening as well! | 15:01 |
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| baoli | Hello, everyone | 15:01 |
| dzyu | hi Sean | 15:01 |
| sc68cal | Agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-IPv6-Subteam#Agenda_for_Jan_7th | 15:01 |
| sc68cal | #topic recap last meeting | 15:02 |
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| sc68cal | Technically last meeting was last week, but I think the holiday, so not much occured | 15:02 |
| sc68cal | So we'll just hop right into blueprints | 15:03 |
| flaper87 | mmh, guys, are you sure this is your time slot? | 15:03 |
| flaper87 | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Marconi | 15:03 |
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| sc68cal | flaper87: was this changed recently? | 15:03 |
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| kgriffs | we have had this slot for about a month | 15:04 |
| kgriffs | (marconi) | 15:04 |
| flaper87 | what kgriffs said | 15:04 |
| sc68cal | I don't see it on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings | 15:04 |
| kgriffs | ah crap | 15:04 |
| sc68cal | which I used to double check before moving our meeting | 15:04 |
| kgriffs | somehow the day didn't get updated | 15:04 |
| kgriffs | was supposed to be tuesday | 15:04 |
| kgriffs | my bad | 15:04 |
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| kgriffs | Marconi (queues) team meeting | 15:05 |
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| kgriffs | it used to be mondays but was changed a while back to tuesdays | 15:05 |
| kgriffs | looks like the wiki wasn't updated. | 15:05 |
| kgriffs | hmmm | 15:05 |
| flaper87 | sc68cal: when did you guys moved it? | 15:05 |
| flaper87 | move* | 15:05 |
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| sc68cal | flaper87: earlier this week, and we updated our section on the wiki | 15:05 |
| * ijw makes popcorn and settles down for the fight | 15:06 | |
| kgriffs | heh | 15:06 |
| kgriffs | well, i think this one is our fault for missing the day change under our section | 15:06 |
| flaper87 | what about you guys doing the meeting here today and finding another slot for next week? | 15:06 |
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| flaper87 | we can take our meeting to #openstack-marconi this week | 15:07 |
| flaper87 | I guess, kgriffs thoughts ? | 15:07 |
| kgriffs | sounds fine, but it is our fault so this would be asking a favor. :D | 15:07 |
| sc68cal | Sure - sorry for running over you guys | 15:07 |
| aveiga | you guys legitimately had it before | 15:07 |
| aveiga | just a mix up in docs | 15:07 |
| ijw | I think we're fairly flexible for next week, but maybe we can sort this out on the ML afterward. | 15:07 |
| aveiga | sounds fair to me | 15:07 |
| flaper87 | thanks a lot guys! Sorry for the whole mess | 15:08 |
| kgriffs | yeah. sorry guys for the misunderstanding. carry on. We'll move our party over to #openstack-marconi this week | 15:08 |
| ijw | kgriffs: is there beer? | 15:08 |
| kgriffs | lol | 15:08 |
| * kgriffs wishes | 15:08 | |
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| sc68cal | #topic blueprints | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blueprints (Meeting topic: neutron_ipv6)" | 15:08 | |
| flaper87 | ijw: If you contribute to marconi, I'll make sure you get beer | 15:08 |
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| sc68cal | #undo | 15:09 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x30e63d0> | 15:09 |
| sc68cal | OK need to do another ML to find a new day | 15:09 |
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| sc68cal | I think Fridays are way open | 15:09 |
| ijw | Sounds good if it's going to be around this time | 15:09 |
| sc68cal | #action sc68cal create new thread, find new meeting slot - current slot conflicts with marconi | 15:10 |
| shshang | Does Tuesday 9am work? | 15:10 |
| ijw | ... which 9am... | 15:10 |
| sc68cal | 1400 UTC doesn't work for #alt | 15:10 |
| shshang | I see. | 15:10 |
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| aveiga | let's take time selection to the ML, there's a lot to cover catching up from a break | 15:10 |
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| sc68cal | openstack meeting might be free at 1400 UTC | 15:11 |
| sc68cal | we'll put it on the ML | 15:11 |
| sc68cal | #topic blueprints | 15:11 |
| baoli | we may change pci passthough to utc 1300 permanently, so utc 1400 may be available | 15:11 |
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| sc68cal | xuhanp: ping | 15:12 |
| xuhanp | pong | 15:12 |
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| sc68cal | First time we've been able to chat in real time - quite a bit of work we've done on the subnet mode keyword | 15:12 |
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| sc68cal | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/dnsmasq-mode-keyword,n,z dnsmasq-mode-keyword reviews | 15:12 |
| shshang | @xuhanp, welcome! | 15:13 |
| sc68cal | Thankfully we were able to get things straightened out with the Tail-F jenkins third party test - all the -1's have been reviewed | 15:13 |
| sc68cal | *removed | 15:13 |
| dzyu | sc68cal, I saw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52983/ just some monir comments | 15:13 |
| xuhanp | yep. including my -1 :-) | 15:14 |
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| sc68cal | yep - some good points that both you and Carl Baldwin made about the code - I plan on integrating the suggestions | 15:15 |
| sc68cal | dzyu: have anything to add - sorry, mixed up a bit | 15:16 |
| dzyu | And maybe we should involve more guys to review the two code change | 15:16 |
| ijw | That does still seem to have the problem of too many options available and all tied to dnsmasq | 15:16 |
| ijw | What's the plan, do that then refine it? | 15:16 |
| xuhanp | Also I have some concerns about how to support SLAAC and DHCPv6 at the same time ( one port having two kinds of addresses), and the code seems doesn't handle this right now. So maybe worth mentioning here. | 15:17 |
| sc68cal | ijw: I believe that once shshang and Randy__ work on their blueprints for adding v6 modes to dnsmasq, that'll give us a good idea of what options are really going to be used, then perhaps prune it down | 15:18 |
| dzyu | xuhanp: yes, we need more consider about the combination of dhcp mode | 15:18 |
| shshang | How are these variables passed to the code? Via CLI command? | 15:18 |
| xuhanp | both CLI and API, I think | 15:19 |
| ijw | shshang: they'll come in on the API call that's equivalent to subnet-create, I think | 15:19 |
| sc68cal | yeah it's an extra couple flags to the CLI | 15:19 |
| Randy__ | should be CLI and via Horizon dash | 15:19 |
| dzyu | yes | 15:19 |
| aveiga | should we wait for the definitions first? If it's going to be passed via cli, we shouldn't change the keywords very frequently | 15:19 |
| sc68cal | which I believe dzyu has a review for | 15:19 |
| shshang | If they are passed via CLI, how are about Horizon? | 15:20 |
| shshang | On dashboard, we should provide the same options, right? | 15:20 |
| sc68cal | Yep | 15:20 |
| aveiga | yes | 15:20 |
| shshang | Is there any plan to cover dashboard too? | 15:20 |
| xuhanp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54250/ dzyu's CLI code change | 15:21 |
| aveiga | so the UI will need to reflect the defnitions as well, which is why we should get them out the door first | 15:21 |
| ijw | shshang: absolutely, but the steps need to be first the Neutron API, then the python-neutronclient command, and then Horizon, I think - they have to be three separate changes because they're in the three projects | 15:21 |
| aveiga | ijw: +1 | 15:21 |
| aveiga | though we should get a blueprint started for the Horizon part too | 15:21 |
| ijw | Indeed | 15:21 |
| shshang | yes, this is what I am concerning | 15:21 |
| shshang | I only saw the keywords for CLI. Would like to make sure we cover API and Dashboard too | 15:22 |
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| sc68cal | cool - someone want to volunteer to create the BP for horizon? | 15:22 |
| dzyu | +1, need support in Dashboard | 15:22 |
| ijw | In that first patch there's not even CLI commands, that's the JSON. | 15:22 |
| xuhanp | ijw: which first patch? | 15:23 |
| sc68cal | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54250/ Neutron CLI - subnet mode keyword support review | 15:24 |
| ijw | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52983/14 (versus the one on the commandline client) | 15:24 |
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| sc68cal | #action sc68cal register blueprint for horizon support | 15:25 |
| xuhanp | I think we got the CLI subnet input change covered in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54250/ | 15:25 |
| xuhanp | am I missing something? | 15:26 |
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| shshang | @xuhanp, yes, I can see CLI part is covered by your code submission | 15:26 |
| ijw | No, we're just talking at cross purposes. Carry on | 15:26 |
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| sc68cal | I'll try and coordinate with dzyu more on those patch sets | 15:27 |
| dzyu | sc68cal: I will restore https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54250/ later, and I think we need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52983/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56184/ be merged ASAP | 15:27 |
| sc68cal | dzyu: +1 | 15:27 |
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| sc68cal | as shshang asked on the mailing list - time is a bit tight | 15:27 |
| aveiga | so just out of curiosity, there's no option in there for not setting it at all? | 15:27 |
| aveiga | what about people using provider networks and their own router for the RAs? | 15:27 |
| sc68cal | aveiga: It supports not being set at all | 15:28 |
| Randy__ | isn't there a default? | 15:28 |
| sc68cal | In fact, provider nets and routers, we do not set it, and disable dhcp | 15:28 |
| ijw | Well, similarly, the issue of two routers on a network, or none | 15:28 |
| Randy__ | ..when not provided, right | 15:28 |
| sc68cal | ATTR_NOT_SPECIFIED is the default | 15:28 |
| Randy__ | sc68cal: thx | 15:28 |
| aveiga | sorry, I'm not as well versed in the actual code part of this | 15:28 |
| aveiga | my forte is more protocol/network engineering... | 15:29 |
| dzyu | cool | 15:29 |
| sc68cal | OK - I'll be working to clean up my patches, and coordinate with dzyu so we can get this merged ASAP | 15:29 |
| shshang | So as long as sc68cal and dzyu and xuhap's code can save the user's selection to somewhere, which can be retrieved by dnsmasq, it should be fine. | 15:30 |
| sc68cal | shshang: Randy__: How is the rebase going, for the work that you guys did, on top of the subnet mode bp? | 15:30 |
| ijw | This doesn't make sense to me. | 15:30 |
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| shshang | if I undrstand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52983/ correctly, it will be subnet attributes, right? | 15:30 |
| ijw | I mean, we've gone quite a long way down the path of giving the user control of dnsmasq-specific modes and options that they shouldn't have access to, and we agreed that they shouldn't have access to | 15:31 |
| sc68cal | shshang: yes | 15:31 |
| aveiga | ijw: user, or admin? | 15:31 |
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| ijw | aveiga: user | 15:32 |
| sc68cal | ijw: I don't recall that specifically, I do recall your concern about the modes being tied to the dnsmasq implementation | 15:32 |
| aveiga | I agree that the user shouldn't have access here, but admins need to be able to set these modes | 15:32 |
| ijw | API user at least, but unprivileged users can play with subnet attrs | 15:32 |
| shshang | @sc68cal, cool, thanks | 15:32 |
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| sc68cal | ijw: We can lock that down via policy.conf | 15:32 |
| ijw | That's not really the point | 15:32 |
| sc68cal | ijw: While I respect your viewpoint, do you have a concrete proposal to fix? | 15:33 |
| ijw | The user is going to want to elect to use RAs, DHCPv6 or both on their networks, and that's fine - there's a limited number of combinations that are going to work for them, and that's also fine | 15:33 |
| sc68cal | We're getting close to Icehouse-2, I would appreciate code that addresses the problem | 15:33 |
| aveiga | ijw: there might be a need for user access. Say a user creates a tenant-only network with a load balancer on it to act as a gateway, we need to let the user set the modes there | 15:33 |
| aveiga | so policy.conf might actually be the right method | 15:34 |
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| ijw | aveiga: there's always a need for user access, any user can create a network and subnet and will want to configure the addressing mode. | 15:34 |
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| ijw | This is not something you would lock the user away from, in fact | 15:34 |
| ijw | It's not locked away from them right now | 15:34 |
| aveiga | so do you have something specific to point out that we shouldn't be providing? | 15:35 |
| sc68cal | ijw: If i recall correctly, updating a subnet is a admin or owner only operation | 15:35 |
| ijw | Nope | 15:35 |
| xuhanp | so I think we are talking about creating some sort of mapping between IPv6 words to dnsmasq mode? | 15:35 |
| ijw | sc68cal: sorry, I didn't mean to start screwing up the timeline, but I thought the plan here was to divorce the options we gave to that addressing mode from the options that we passed to dnsmasq - and that's particularly important if xuhanp is already changing the neutronclient code based on what's going to go in | 15:35 |
| aveiga | xuhanp: I think the issue might be backward in that we should specify IPv6 modes | 15:35 |
| aveiga | and then implementations can map them (one implementation being dnsmasq) | 15:36 |
| ijw | aveiga: indeed | 15:36 |
| aveiga | which is why defining the modes should be a priority | 15:36 |
| Randy__ | can we table user priv from the keyword discussion?? | 15:36 |
| aveiga | and I believe I was assigned that as an action item and apologize for not getting to it | 15:36 |
| aveiga | I know it's not an excuse, but I was out of commission due to surgery for the past two weeks | 15:36 |
| shshang | aveiga, hope you get well soon | 15:37 |
| aveiga | shshang: thanks, I'm better now | 15:37 |
| ijw | faster. stronger. | 15:37 |
| ijw | .me hums the 6 million dollar man tune | 15:38 |
| aveiga | in any case, the question remains: push the patches to acceptance and change their usage after definition, or push the definition quickly? | 15:38 |
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| aveiga | and by quickly I mean this week, and harp on it until we get acceptance or rejection | 15:38 |
| ijw | I'm good either way, I think even what we have is a statement of intent | 15:38 |
| aveiga | so in the interest of expediency, let's push what we have | 15:39 |
| aveiga | and retrofit it | 15:39 |
| aveiga | knowing I-2 is soon | 15:39 |
| xuhanp | +1 | 15:39 |
| sc68cal | Anyone who wants to take on that task, feel free to create a patch on top of the topic, that redefines the keywords to a more neutral usage | 15:39 |
| * aveiga raises hand as volunteer | 15:40 | |
| sc68cal | since we're using the constants, the change should be easy | 15:40 |
| shshang | I can volunteer | 15:40 |
| shshang | agree with aveiga's suggestion | 15:40 |
| sc68cal | #action ijw aveiga shshang work on vendor neutral dns mode keywords | 15:40 |
| sc68cal | OK - open discussion? | 15:41 |
| sc68cal | or any other blueprints we want to discuss? | 15:41 |
| shshang | back to the use case we discussed prior to the holiday | 15:41 |
| shshang | we already got code in place to differentiate the use case aveiga and sc68cal referred to | 15:42 |
| ijw | There's the annoying hairpin thing - anyone who wants to, weigh in on the mailing list, but we need that patch or something like it in by I2 | 15:42 |
| ijw | shshang: have you got the code up somewhere? I was looking | 15:42 |
| aveiga | I think ijw's comments on the ML about the hairpin are spot on | 15:43 |
| aveiga | but there's a -1 on that review that is also valid | 15:43 |
| aveiga | depending on if nova-networks gets deprecated or not | 15:43 |
| shshang | Randy and I are working on the triggering point now to cover the scenario that, when tenant network is attatched to the router, we need to reload the dnsmasq in different mode | 15:43 |
| ijw | aveiga: the patch as it is works either way | 15:43 |
| ijw | shshang: I have an issue with your theory, I think | 15:43 |
| aveiga | ijw: does it work for a neutron-owned nova-network mode? | 15:44 |
| ijw | aveiga: no such thing - you're either Neutron or not | 15:44 |
| ijw | aveiga: we're in the clear all ways around, anyway, I think | 15:44 |
| aveiga | ijw: they're talking about a mode in neutron that replicates the functionality of nova-network for upgrade path's sake | 15:44 |
| ijw | shshang: I know you're attached to the one namespace thing, but I still think that having a DHCP namespace for solely DHCP would be a good idea | 15:45 |
| ijw | aveiga: that should be fine, it'd still need a router | 15:45 |
| ijw | Well, it'd still use a router, they wouldn't be adding port rewrite rules, I would hope | 15:45 |
| aveiga | floats would still need it for the time being | 15:46 |
| ijw | Firstly, I think the number of routers on a network is going to be 0+ at some point - we're already talking about multiple external networks - which means you don't have just the one router namespace | 15:46 |
| aveiga | I think it's something worth bringing up in #openstack-neutron though | 15:46 |
| ijw | Secondly the DHCPv4 server has to have a home namespace too | 15:46 |
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| Randy__ | ijw: the two namespaces will remain. you're either attached to the dhcp namespace with 0 routers or to qrouter namespace | 15:46 |
| ijw | Can't we just have one namespace and process for DHCPv* and then an RA process in each router? | 15:46 |
| shshang | ijw, just want to clarify one more time, there is no such thing called one namespace | 15:46 |
| ijw | OK, so then it's one process. Why not two processes? | 15:47 |
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| ijw | (noting there is not exclusively one qrouter process if there's more than one attached router) | 15:47 |
| ijw | qrouter namespace) | 15:47 |
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| ijw | Please, feel free to shoot down the idea, but I'm trying to understand | 15:48 |
| baoli | One question, an ipv6 subnet is added into a network. Until it's attached to a router, it has not relationship with a router, right? So until it's added to the router, it's restricted to the the dhcp namespace, right? | 15:48 |
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| shshang | As aveiga and sc68cal suggested prior to the holiday, we changed the code in the way that, in case there is no router for tenant network, we will launch dnsmasq in qdhcp namespace; In other cases, we launch it in qrouter namespace. | 15:49 |
| shshang | What I referred to is purely ipv6 dnsmasq process | 15:49 |
| ijw | Yes - so why not launch a separate process in each namespace with different responsibilities? | 15:49 |
| shshang | for ipv4, still stayin qdhcp | 15:49 |
| sc68cal | ijw: shshang: is it possible that this can be an additional patch - to make it so it launches more processes in new namespaces? | 15:51 |
| sc68cal | My concern is that we're getting bogged down, making perfect the enemy of the good | 15:51 |
| aveiga | sc68cal +1 | 15:51 |
| ijw | Yes, indeed, though I think shshang has to stop the process in the qdhcp namespace and start it in the qrouter namespace when a router is first added | 15:51 |
| sc68cal | If we just sit around arguing about how to make it perfect, we're never going to get things merged, and we'll go through yet another release where neutron ipv6 is broken and unusable | 15:51 |
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| ijw | So my point is this might make what he's doing slightly *less* complicated | 15:51 |
| shshang | sc68cal, agree | 15:52 |
| shshang | plus, I don't think we have time right now | 15:52 |
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| dzyu | sc68cal:+1 | 15:52 |
| ijw | Okay | 15:52 |
| ijw | Let's get the patch up then | 15:52 |
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| shshang | ijw, we can always associate more ideas in the ML or offline. | 15:53 |
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| shshang | sorry, socialize | 15:53 |
| ijw | shshang: I think it'll actually be easier to discuss when we have code to point too, too | 15:54 |
| shshang | agree, | 15:54 |
| shshang | right now, the keywords has to be in and approved first | 15:54 |
| ijw | yup | 15:54 |
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| shshang | afterwards, my focus is to refine the code based on keywords, so everybody can test it | 15:54 |
| shshang | I like your ideas, and let us revisit it again when we at least have some common ground to start with | 15:55 |
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| aveiga | ok, sounds like this one is in the bag and we can move on next week | 15:56 |
| aveiga | anything else to bring up for the last 3 minutes? | 15:56 |
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| ijw | shshang: how do you feel about just laying down the options we want on subnets, then sticking a couple of very very small patches that just implement those attrs with no backend functionality? I imagine if we did it that way we could get it in in a day or two because there'd be nothing to object to | 15:56 |
| sc68cal | #topic open discussion | 15:57 |
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| shshang | only one thing, happy new year to everybody! | 15:57 |
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| xuhanp | Thank you, happy new year! and Chinese new year is coming!!! | 15:57 |
| dzyu | :) happy new year! | 15:57 |
| baoli | happy new year to you all. | 15:57 |
| shshang | Yup! look forward to it, xuhanp and dzyu | 15:57 |
| sc68cal | xuhanp: dzyu: thanks for joining! | 15:57 |
| baoli | My lights are still up for Chinese new year | 15:58 |
| xuhanp | very glad to be here, guys | 15:58 |
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| shshang | feel excited to see IBM teams here today | 15:58 |
| ijw | shshang, aveiga: you likely to be in #openstack-neutron after? | 15:58 |
| aveiga | I should be around most of the day, in and out | 15:58 |
| ijw | OK, let's clear up the options thing | 15:58 |
| aveiga | lots of meetings this week thanks to the holiday | 15:58 |
| shshang | ijw, too bad, I will have a meeting in 2 mins | 15:58 |
| shshang | :( | 15:58 |
| ijw | shshang: later's also fine? | 15:59 |
| ijw | Just pick a time | 15:59 |
| ijw | If we can get this done today that will be one hurdle out of the way | 15:59 |
| shshang | I will be free this afternoon around 4pm EST. Which time zone are you in, ijw? | 15:59 |
| shshang | I can start webex meeting, so we can talk to each other. typing is a pain | 16:00 |
| ijw | CET physically. Mentally, I'm never sure | 16:00 |
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| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| ijw | Let me check my calendar | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 7 16:00:23 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-01-07-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-01-07-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-01-07-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| ijw | 10 would be great, let's do that | 16:00 |
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| shshang | ijw, what's your email? | 16:02 |
| ijw | iawells@cisco.com will do nicely, and get aveiga on too | 16:02 |
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| lsmola | mobster | 19:01 |
| jomara | oh, that kind of mob | 19:02 |
| jcoufal-mob | I should change that :) | 19:02 |
| marios | o/ 'evening tripleoers | 19:02 |
| jomara | ahoy | 19:02 |
| matty_dubs | \o | 19:02 |
| tzumainn | hi! it's cold | 19:02 |
| lsmola | hello | 19:02 |
| matty_dubs | You guys I did it; I waved correctly on IRC! | 19:02 |
| jomara | what does \o mean | 19:02 |
| jomara | and o\ | 19:02 |
| jomara | o\\\ | 19:02 |
| tzumainn | but being here warms my heart | 19:02 |
| jomara | \\\\o | 19:02 |
| dkehn | hi | 19:02 |
| jomara | //////o | 19:02 |
| rpodolyaka | o/ | 19:03 |
| tzumainn | jomara, what are you, an octopus? | 19:03 |
| jomara | is it sonic the hedgehog? | 19:03 |
| jcoufal-mob | O/ | 19:03 |
| matty_dubs | jomara: They are waves | 19:03 |
| lsmola | jomara, too many hands | 19:03 |
| jomara | that doesnt look like a wave to me | 19:03 |
| matty_dubs | Head + arm | 19:03 |
| marios | jomara: (think head and arm in air) | 19:03 |
| jdob | tzumainn: ya, "cold" is an understatement | 19:03 |
| jomara | matty_dubs: have ou ever even SEEN the ocean | 19:03 |
| matty_dubs | \o | 19:03 |
| jomara | oh, | 19:03 |
| matty_dubs | | | 19:03 |
| jomara | that kind of wave | 19:03 |
| matty_dubs | /\ | 19:03 |
| jomara | \\\\pp\\\\0 | 19:03 |
| bnemec | \\o// | 19:03 |
| bnemec | Goro Wins! | 19:03 |
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| jdob | bnemec: hahahaha | 19:04 |
| tzumainn | lol | 19:04 |
| jomara | haha | 19:04 |
| jomara | jdob: my heat is broken, i win! | 19:04 |
| lsmola | lol | 19:04 |
| jdob | jomara: i saw that, brutal day for it | 19:04 |
| jcoufal-mob | That's THE meeting! | 19:04 |
| jomara | yes, the worst | 19:04 |
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| jcoufal-mob | :) | 19:04 |
| tzumainn | jomara, can we have a live feed of your misery? | 19:04 |
| marios | so i guess lifeless is human after all :) - he was up late today/yesterday/whatever it is for him | 19:04 |
| jomara | jdob: i just hit 49F inside | 19:04 |
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| tzumainn | marios, I think lifeless is at LCA, but SpamapS volunteered to chair? | 19:05 |
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| marios | ah didn't know | 19:06 |
| jdob | jomara: oof, that's cold even by my standards. i like a brisk 65ish in my office | 19:06 |
| jomara | is LCA someplace..warm? | 19:06 |
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| jtomasek | hey | 19:06 |
| jomara | jdob: 65 is a tropical paradise! | 19:06 |
| jomara | jdob: 49 is oppresive tundra | 19:06 |
| akrivoka | hi | 19:06 |
| matty_dubs | jomara: Yeah, LinuxConf Australia == LCA, IIUC | 19:06 |
| jomara | ahhh | 19:07 |
| lsmola | ahh | 19:07 |
| jcoufal-m | Aaah? | 19:07 |
| lsmola | so .. | 19:07 |
| matty_dubs | Aaaah! | 19:08 |
| lsmola | lol | 19:08 |
| jcoufal-m | Oh! | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | oh | 19:08 |
| lsmola | that was too much | 19:08 |
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| jomara | OOOOOooh | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | I did volunteer to chair | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | and then forgot to come to the meeting | 19:08 |
| lsmola | SpamapS, yaaaay | 19:08 |
| marios | nice. best kind of volunteering | 19:08 |
| tzumainn | lol | 19:08 |
| lsmola | hehe | 19:08 |
| jdob | SpamapS: right on time, we were degenerating rapidly | 19:08 |
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| SpamapS | #startmeeting TripleO | 19:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 7 19:08:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:08 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | #topic bugs | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:09 | |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar-ui | 19:10 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:10 |
| SpamapS | Please review all crits at this time. :) | 19:10 |
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| SpamapS | we have picked up a lot of criticals in tripleo | 19:10 |
| SpamapS | Please if you have opened it but cannot fix it raise it in #tripleo | 19:11 |
| marios | SpamapS: so the oslo messaging one seems to have hit a wall https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1261253 | 19:11 |
| marios | SpamapS: in so far as i opened against glance and waiting for global requirements, which was rejected.. sec | 19:11 |
| marios | (mentioning it as it was AI for me last time) | 19:12 |
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| SpamapS | thanks | 19:12 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1265807 has a workaround | 19:13 |
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| SpamapS | which is "use pypi-openstack or pypi with a local mirror" | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1263297 was fixed in Heat so closing | 19:14 |
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| SpamapS | any other bugs people want to bring up? | 19:15 |
| SpamapS | #topic reviews | 19:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:15 | |
| SpamapS | http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:15 |
| SpamapS | Holidays have messed up all the stats | 19:16 |
| SpamapS | But we're still in good shape. | 19:16 |
| SpamapS | pausing for comments | 19:16 |
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| jomara | no comments! | 19:18 |
| SpamapS | #topic Projects needing releases | 19:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects needing releases (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:18 | |
| SpamapS | Would still love to have a script that just tells us how many commits since last tag for everything :) | 19:18 |
| rpodolyaka | I'm working on one :) | 19:19 |
| SpamapS | Unless anybody wants to request we do releases for things, I'll just move on. | 19:19 |
| SpamapS | (as in, releases right now, as opposed to later) | 19:19 |
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| SpamapS | #topic CD cloud status | 19:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CD cloud status (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:19 | |
| SpamapS | We're in a state of flux as we try to get state preservation working. | 19:19 |
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| SpamapS | tripleo-cd is off, because it wants to do an update, not delete/create, and the elements have not been updated to reflect state preservation fully | 19:20 |
| SpamapS | mysql is preserving state now (woot) | 19:21 |
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| SpamapS | we still need to update nova | 19:21 |
| SpamapS | and there are patches that need to get into Heat so we can do updates more reliably | 19:21 |
| SpamapS | #topic CI virtualized testing progress | 19:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI virtualized testing progress (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:21 | |
| SpamapS | nobody who is working on this is here AFAIK | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | #topic Open Discussion | 19:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:22 | |
| SpamapS | anything? | 19:22 |
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| dkehn | i have nothing | 19:23 |
| SpamapS | very existential | 19:23 |
| dkehn | cue crickets | 19:23 |
| SpamapS | thanks all | 19:24 |
| SpamapS | #endmeeting | 19:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 7 19:24:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-01-07-19.08.html | 19:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-01-07-19.08.txt | 19:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-01-07-19.08.log.html | 19:24 |
| lsmola | thanks everybody | 19:24 |
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| marios | night all | 19:24 |
| jomara | thanksg uys | 19:24 |
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| lsmola | good night | 19:24 |
| rpodolyaka | gnight | 19:24 |
| jistr|mobile | night all | 19:24 |
| tzumainn | night! | 19:24 |
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| jcoufal | night all | 19:24 |
| matty_dubs | Au revoire! | 19:24 |
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