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| baoli | #startmeeting PCI Passthrough | 13:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 17 13:01:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:01 |
| baoli | Hi | 13:01 |
| beagles | good morning! | 13:01 |
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| irenab | hi | 13:02 |
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| baoli | Yongli will not join. Let's wait for rkukura | 13:03 |
| irenab | I think he said that he may not join | 13:04 |
| baoli | yea. He said he might miss it. | 13:05 |
| irenab | baoli: I want to discuss the bug fix comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59093/ | 13:06 |
| baoli | Irenab, sure. But first check this out: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Passthrough#BPs_.26_Patches and see I missed anything | 13:06 |
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| sadasu | baoli: thanks for putting links to all significant bps in one place | 13:07 |
| sadasu | will take a look | 13:07 |
| sadasu | irenab: regarding bug fix | 13:08 |
| baoli | sadasu, my pleasure | 13:08 |
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| irenab | please take a look at my response on Robert's comment | 13:09 |
| sadasu | irenab: didn't rkukura mention that due to multisegment network xtension, we cannot take segmentation id from network? | 13:09 |
| sadasu | are we assuming that we are not dealing with multisegment networks in icehouse? | 13:10 |
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| baoli | I think initially we'll make it work with providernet. | 13:10 |
| irenab | baoli: agree | 13:10 |
| baoli | irenab, I saw your reponse. I'm ok if it's needed now | 13:10 |
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| irenab | baoli: thanks! We need it to work for current mellanox MD,before all the nova support | 13:11 |
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| irenab | baoli: If you can please remove -1 | 13:12 |
| sadasu | irenab: agreed: I think it would help if the BP description was edited to reflect this fact | 13:12 |
| irenab | baoli: Did the part for getting physical_network seems suitable for what you planned? | 13:12 |
| baoli | not mention that nova bps won't be approved and any change may only be in juno | 13:12 |
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| baoli | irenab, yes. I'll take a close look at it again and remove -1. Agree with sadasu to add some comments about the future plan, etc. | 13:13 |
| irenab | sadasu: it is actually driven as bug fix, so will add more info to the bug and commit message | 13:13 |
| irenab | makeing it bp will result into Juno ... | 13:14 |
| irenab | baoli: so no hope for getting nova code into icehouse? | 13:15 |
| sadasu | irenab: agreed...bug description...because this important detail about supporting only providernet extension is hidden inside the comments... | 13:15 |
| sadasu | I guess it is a nit pick | 13:15 |
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| irenab | sadasu: Will update the bug description and mention future plans | 13:16 |
| baoli | irenab, I am not sure. You have seen the emails from the two cores involved in this so far | 13:16 |
| irenab | seen only from John | 13:17 |
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| irenab | regarding the listed bp there is also this one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/pci-extra-info-icehouse | 13:17 |
| beagles | baoli, are there links to the aforementioned email threads? | 13:18 |
| baoli | beagles, somehow that email was not on the ML | 13:19 |
| beagles | ah okay | 13:19 |
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| baoli | Because the originator didn't sent it to the ML | 13:19 |
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| irenab | baoli: Are you talking about mail from Russel? | 13:19 |
| baoli | irenab, that's the one Yunhong registered for the simplified plan. | 13:19 |
| baoli | irenab, yes | 13:19 |
| beagles | Where I am nova-focused, I would like to do what I can to mitigate/expedite the nova blueprint approval | 13:20 |
| beagles | it would be cool to "get that out of the way" ASAP. | 13:21 |
| baoli | beagles, that would be great. When is the deadline for BP approval? | 13:21 |
| baoli | Irenab, let me add it to the wiki | 13:21 |
| irenab | I guess if code if under review by tomorrow, its still maybe possible to make it to Icehouse | 13:22 |
| irenab | baoli: great, thanks for putting it all together | 13:22 |
| beagles | baoli, oops...I'm not certain, but knowing that detail would be a good start :) | 13:22 |
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| baoli | We need the nova change to make the whole thing work. I'm working on a patch that will make sure we can have SRIOV working. | 13:24 |
| baoli | So if we get all the essential neutron patches, I probably can do some integration testing in a week | 13:25 |
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| irenab | baoli: since we closed the API's between neutron and nova, I think its possible to put WIP nova parts + unit tests | 13:26 |
| irenab | from my experience unit testing takes more time than code itself ... | 13:27 |
| baoli | Irenab, that's right. | 13:27 |
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| baoli | From neutron side, we need the vnic_type, binding:profile and binding:vif_details ASAP. | 13:28 |
| baoli | we have patches for vnic_type and binding:vif_details | 13:29 |
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| irenab | there is also for binding:profile | 13:29 |
| sadasu | regarding binding:profile | 13:30 |
| irenab | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73500/ | 13:30 |
| baoli | Yea, just saw it. | 13:30 |
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| baoli | I'll take a look, and hopefully I can get something working this week | 13:30 |
| sadasu | irenab: do you need to differentiate between a PF and VF? | 13:30 |
| irenab | I am dealing with VF only | 13:30 |
| irenab | assuming that nova will allocate VF | 13:31 |
| sadasu | irenab: ok | 13:31 |
| baoli | sadasu, do you need PF? | 13:31 |
| irenab | sadasu: Do you need additional property on the pci_info or pci_slot? | 13:32 |
| sadasu | the NICs (cisco & intel) currently support allocation of the PF also for SR-IOV | 13:33 |
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| irenab | sadsu: does it matter on neutron side? | 13:34 |
| sadasu | but Nova would only allocate VFs, we can assume in Neutron that it is always going to be a VF | 13:34 |
| sadasu | just thinking if there might be a case in the future if we might have to support allocation of a PF | 13:35 |
| baoli | sadasu, do you mean to say that a VM can use the entire PF for passthrough? Does libvirt support this in its XML? | 13:35 |
| sadasu | in that case, do we want to pre-provision for this field in binding:profile | 13:35 |
| sadasu | baoli: apparently yes | 13:36 |
| irenab | sadasu: Do you see any different handling on neutron side? | 13:36 |
| irenab | Or its just for nova VIF Driver? | 13:36 |
| sadasu | irenab: not from my side...thats why I was checking with you | 13:36 |
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| irenab | sadasu: I think the same for me. | 13:37 |
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| baoli | sadasu, that will have a little implication on the nova side. | 13:38 |
| sadasu | ok..so the current approach is: Nova will allocate only VFs | 13:38 |
| baoli | sadasu, that's right | 13:38 |
| irenab | sadsu: I guess it depends on white list definition | 13:38 |
| sadasu | baoli: yes, Nova would be impacted...if we needed to PF support | 13:39 |
| sadasu | continuing... | 13:39 |
| sadasu | Neutron will assume only VFs are being allocated | 13:39 |
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| sadasu | binding:profile will not contain PF/VF info | 13:39 |
| irenab | so it maybe the problem, getting the wrong device | 13:40 |
| baoli | sadasu, any quick pointer to an example of the libvirt xml with PF? | 13:40 |
| irenab | and nova vifdriver trying to plug it | 13:40 |
| irenab | somewhere should be sanity check that device is suitable for vendor networking case | 13:41 |
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| sadasu | ok...will look for example and update | 13:41 |
| irenab | so adding vf/pf to pci_info or pci_slot or nova will allow to plug only VFs? | 13:42 |
| baoli | I think that we can add PF support in the next release. But let's find more information about it first | 13:43 |
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| irenab | baoli: agree | 13:43 |
| irenab | I sent few questions regarding vnic_type implementation earlier today. Shall we discuss it now or over email? | 13:43 |
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| baoli | irenab, let's see what Bob has to say. | 13:43 |
| baoli | I don't think that we need VNIC_AGENT. | 13:44 |
| irenab | baoli: fine. please also review the patch | 13:44 |
| baoli | vnic_type update before it's bound may be allowed. | 13:44 |
| irenab | baoli: it just seems stange that in port-show it shows virtio | 13:45 |
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| irenab | what about changing vnic_type? | 13:45 |
| irenab | baoli: just saw your answer. thanks | 13:47 |
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| irenab | it was my thoughts too | 13:47 |
| baoli | irenab, cool | 13:47 |
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| irenab | baoli: any more for discussion today? | 13:48 |
| baoli | irenab, I don't have anything left to discuss today. | 13:48 |
| irenab | next sync on Wed? | 13:49 |
| baoli | Maybe we should switch back to weekly? | 13:49 |
| baoli | irenab, if needed, we can have a sync-up on WEd | 13:50 |
| irenab | we missed Heyongli and rkukura today, maybe still do one more time this week? | 13:50 |
| baoli | irenab, sure. let me send an invite after this meeting | 13:50 |
| irenab | baoli: thanks | 13:50 |
| irenab | baoli: please keep in sync regarding nova progress and if there is some WIP that can be taken for testing | 13:51 |
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| baoli | Irenab, sure. | 13:52 |
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| baoli | If we switch back to weekly, which date do you guys prefer? | 13:52 |
| sadasu | yeah, sometime mid week for the weekly meeting would be good. | 13:52 |
| irenab | Tue? | 13:52 |
| sadasu | Tues/Wed | 13:53 |
| baoli | then, let's do Tue | 13:53 |
| irenab | great, so next week switching to weekly? | 13:53 |
| sadasu | I think we are meeting only tomorrow for this week too | 13:54 |
| irenab | Wed or tomorrow? | 13:54 |
| baoli | Unless somebody propose a sync-up, let's do weekly from next week. we'll do one on Wed this week. | 13:54 |
| irenab | baoli: great | 13:55 |
| sadasu | baoli: sounds good | 13:55 |
| * beagles nods | 13:55 | |
| baoli | Cool. | 13:55 |
| baoli | Thanks everyone | 13:55 |
| sadasu | thanks | 13:55 |
| irenab | Thanks | 13:55 |
| baoli | #endmeeting | 13:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 17 13:55:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-02-17-13.01.html | 13:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-02-17-13.01.txt | 13:55 |
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| dguitarbite | hey | 17:03 |
| dguitarbite | smemon: der? | 17:03 |
| smemon92 | yep | 17:04 |
| dguitarbite | I guess sean and colin are afk | 17:06 |
| smemon92 | ok | 17:06 |
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| smemon92 | so what about today meeting ? | 17:07 |
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| dguitarbite | chuck it, I'm sleeping :D | 17:07 |
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| smemon92 | ohk..by :) | 17:08 |
| dguitarbite | bye | 17:09 |
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| sarob | Dguitarbyte you still there? | 17:21 |
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| sarob | Startmeeting training-manuals | 17:23 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting training-manuals | 17:23 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 17 17:23:36 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:23 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:23 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_manuals' | 17:23 |
| sarob | #info holiday in the states, this week's is cancelled | 17:24 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 17:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 17 17:24:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2014/training_manuals.2014-02-17-17.23.html | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2014/training_manuals.2014-02-17-17.23.txt | 17:24 |
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| jraim | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 17 20:00:57 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jraim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:01 |
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| jraim | Alright, who all is here for the barbican meeting? | 20:01 |
| reaperhulk | o/ | 20:01 |
| jvrbanac | o/ | 20:01 |
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| redrobot | o/ | 20:01 |
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| jraim | hgedikli1: you around? | 20:01 |
| kris_h | o/ | 20:01 |
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| jraim | chadlung codekobe | 20:01 |
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| hockeynut | o/ | 20:02 |
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| codekobe | o? | 20:02 |
| chadlung | o/ | 20:02 |
| codekobe | o/ | 20:02 |
| SheenaG | o/ | 20:02 |
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| jraim | codekobe: shouldn't you be rearing your child? :) | 20:02 |
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| jraim | or sleeping | 20:02 |
| dstufft | o/ | 20:03 |
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| reaperhulk | Yeah, can that kid code yet or what. She's gotta earn her keep. | 20:03 |
| hockeynut | ZZZzzz,,,… | 20:03 |
| codekobe | haha i logged on to out baby on my insurance, and still had irc open | 20:03 |
| chadlung | <codekobe> Diapers, go change diapers and get off IRC | 20:03 |
| codekobe | bye! | 20:03 |
| lisaclark1 | o/ | 20:03 |
| woodster2 | see ya | 20:03 |
| jraim | Now that he's gone, we can get started :) | 20:03 |
| dstufft | Maybe codekobe needs diaper changing put on scrumdo :3 | 20:03 |
| jraim | Here is the agenda I have for today | 20:03 |
| jraim | * devstack gate integration | 20:03 |
| jraim | * containers status | 20:03 |
| jraim | * rub-tenant rbac | 20:03 |
| jraim | #topic devstack | 20:04 |
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| jraim | Alright, I think we have this pretty locked down now | 20:04 |
| jraim | #action jraim to talk with TC to see if the current code is right, or if we need to change to using solum's approach | 20:04 |
| jraim | correct? | 20:04 |
| chadlung | correct | 20:04 |
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| jraim | easy one | 20:04 |
| chadlung | Solum like changes for us can be seen here: https://gist.github.com/chadlung/8964037 | 20:04 |
| jraim | #link https://gist.github.com/chadlung/8964037 | 20:05 |
| chadlung | Otherwise, like Marconi we do this: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/commit/?id=0d9f4f37d689fbab89980a49155dc328a012c50c | 20:05 |
| jraim | cool. I'll try to get an answer today | 20:05 |
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| jraim | anyone have a preference on approach? Chad and I have been leading towards the marconi way as it doesn't require us putting devstack code in our repo | 20:06 |
| lisaclark1 | chadlung: once we have the decision, you still have about 30 min of work and a PR to submit? | 20:06 |
| * reaperhulk is agnostic. Whatever way they want | 20:06 | |
| redrobot | my preference would be for the TC and the DevStack folks to get on the same page :) | 20:06 |
| chadlung | <lisaclark1> yes, either PR won't take me long to do. Its more just then waiting for approval and making any further changes they want | 20:06 |
| reaperhulk | If they don't care then let's keep devstack out of our repo I guess? | 20:07 |
| jraim | that's my thinking, let's see what they want | 20:07 |
| jraim | #topic containers | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "containers (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:07 | |
| woodster2 | as long as they are cool with having a stackforge project in the mix, Marchoni seems like the easiest way | 20:07 |
| jraim | So I think we are getting close on landing this? | 20:08 |
| jraim | hgedikli1: you around? | 20:08 |
| chadlung | the namespace I think would be an issue, but thats just a guess | 20:08 |
| reaperhulk | I think we're missing hgedikli1 today, but I can provide a status update | 20:08 |
| jraim | go for it | 20:08 |
| reaperhulk | hgedikli1's containers PR is mostly ready now. We've settled on an immutable approach that only handles the current case (RSA) but is extensible for other fixed set groupings. We'll have to revisit this for arbitrary groups, but that's okay. | 20:09 |
| reaperhulk | There is one outstanding TODO in the current PR, so we need that to be resolved | 20:09 |
| jraim | reaperhulk: anything large? | 20:09 |
| reaperhulk | atiwari has a -1 on it as well at the moment, but I'm not sure I agree with his objections (or at least I believe they are better addressed in a future PR) so if all goes well hopefully we can land containers tomorrow | 20:10 |
| reaperhulk | No it's a small todo | 20:10 |
| jraim | atiwari doens't appear to be online now | 20:10 |
| jraim | okay, let's see if we can get it landed soon as IIRC it is blocking some other work on asym | 20:10 |
| jraim | everyone else okay with landing the work with the last todo fixed? | 20:10 |
| woodster2 | lgtm | 20:11 |
| * redrobot is behind on that review | 20:11 | |
| jraim | alright, let's move on to the last agenda item | 20:11 |
| jraim | #topic sub-tenant rbac | 20:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sub-tenant rbac (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:11 | |
| jraim | so we have a question from someone named kfox | 20:11 |
| jraim | who doesn't appear to be online now | 20:11 |
| jraim | about limiting access to secrets to individual users (or agents) | 20:12 |
| jraim | I've thought about this a bit with respect to the postern work | 20:12 |
| jraim | but it hasn't gotten past PoC stage | 20:12 |
| jraim | the issue seems to be that keystone doesn't really seem to offer any low level access control options | 20:12 |
| jraim | so if we want to offer it, we'll need to work with them and / or build something oursleves | 20:12 |
| woodster2 | was that one purpose of that tenant-secret relationship in barbican? | 20:13 |
| jraim | anyone have thoughts on this? something we want? should it be in keystone? or do we need to do it? | 20:13 |
| redrobot | my thoughts on this issue is that authZ/authN belongs in Keystone, not Barbican. I think the keystone model is flexible enough to allow any possible scenario you can think of | 20:13 |
| redrobot | kfox's questions was not necessarily that Barbican needs it, but rather wanting a guideline on how to approach his scenario | 20:13 |
| jraim | so all secrets should be owned by a tenant, they question is if we could allow limited access to a single secret to a particular user / agent without granting access to the rest of the secrets for that tenant/project | 20:14 |
| jraim | redrobot: from what I can tell, keystone only allows access on a project level. | 20:14 |
| jraim | so you woudl have to create projects for every secret grouping you wanted to share | 20:14 |
| jraim | that seems like it would get cumbersone | 20:14 |
| redrobot | jraim, yeah, it could also cause problems with cloud providers who don't have a flexible role/project setup | 20:15 |
| jraim | it feels like the first step here might be to talk with the keystone folks to see if they have ideas on how we coudl do this | 20:15 |
| chadlung | this seems like something that must've been brought up before with Keystone | 20:15 |
| jraim | that's what I'm thinking | 20:16 |
| jraim | I have some ideas, but it might be nice to see what dolphm and company think | 20:16 |
| jraim | #action jraim to reach out to keystone team to see what they think about sub-tenant access control | 20:16 |
| jraim | any other thoughts on this one? | 20:16 |
| redrobot | maybe a wiki entry with ideal keystone/barbican configurations to achieve different scenarios would be helpful | 20:17 |
| jraim | redrobot: that seems useful | 20:17 |
| jraim | something to poke at | 20:17 |
| jraim | cool. Anyone have any topics they like to bring up while we are all here? | 20:18 |
| jraim | okay. Let's call this one. If you have topics you'd like on the agenda, toss me an email or hit me up in #openstack-barbican | 20:19 |
| jraim | thanks all | 20:19 |
| jraim | #endmeeting | 20:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 17 20:19:11 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:19 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-02-17-20.00.html | 20:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-02-17-20.00.txt | 20:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-02-17-20.00.log.html | 20:19 |
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