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| samstav | #startmeeting satori | 15:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 23 15:38:08 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samstav. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:38 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: satori)" | 15:38 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'satori' | 15:38 |
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| samstav | Just wanted to drop in (40 minutes late), to say that we don't have an agenda to cover today. We' | 15:40 |
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| samstav | We'll try again next week. | 15:40 |
| samstav | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 23 15:40:27 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/satori/2014/satori.2014-06-23-15.38.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/satori/2014/satori.2014-06-23-15.38.txt | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/satori/2014/satori.2014-06-23-15.38.log.html | 15:40 |
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| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 23 20:00:36 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
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| redrobot | Hi Everyone! It's time for the weekly Barbican meeting again | 20:01 |
| rellerreller | hi | 20:01 |
| redrobot | can I get a show of hands from attendees? | 20:01 |
| jvrbanac | o/ | 20:01 |
| chellygel | o/ | 20:01 |
| arunkant | o/ | 20:01 |
| redrobot | hi rellerreller | 20:01 |
| tsv | o/ | 20:01 |
| woodster__ | o/ | 20:01 |
| kaitlin | o/ | 20:01 |
| redrobot | Awesome! | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | As usual, the agenda can be found here: | 20:02 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican#Agenda | 20:02 |
| redrobot | #topic Action Items | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | Let's start by revisiting some action items from last week | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | Hopefully you all saw the invite for the mid-cycle meetup I sent to the mailing list | 20:03 |
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| redrobot | I'll talk a little more about that after the action items | 20:03 |
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| atiwari | o/ | 20:03 |
| redrobot | woodster__ have you had a chance to set up an etherpad for the eventing discussion? | 20:04 |
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| woodster__ | I had sent that out before, I'll send again though.... | 20:05 |
| bubbva | yep, thanks, redrobot! | 20:05 |
| bubbva | o/ | 20:05 |
| woodster__ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican_event_processing | 20:05 |
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| redrobot | woodster__ sorry I may have missed it... | 20:05 |
| redrobot | woodster__ thanks for the link | 20:05 |
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| tsv | woodster, thanks for your etherpad link on the keystone client v3 support work for barbican client | 20:06 |
| woodster__ | tsv: just trying to keep track of the many discussion that happened on that CR! :) | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | tsv regarding the action item from last week's meeting. have you had a chance to start a blueprint for removing the tenant id from the URI? | 20:07 |
| tsv | redrobot, yes | 20:07 |
| tsv | link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100386/4 | 20:07 |
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| tsv | redrobot, there were good review comments. i cleaned it up based on comments and submitted again | 20:08 |
| tsv | more reviews please :) | 20:08 |
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| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100386/ | 20:08 |
| redrobot | tsv I see it now, thanks | 20:08 |
| redrobot | I talked to jraim about the need for backwards compatibility | 20:08 |
| tsv | ok. i also mentioned about an optional middleware if backwards compatibility is desired | 20:09 |
| redrobot | he asked the TC about it and their response was that we can choose to break it, but that we should communicate that to the community | 20:09 |
| tsv | ok, how should we do that ? | 20:09 |
| jraim | And explain why we are breaking it including our plan around Python-barbican client. | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | I'm going to send an email to the dev list explaining what we're trying to do, include a link to the BP and let everyone know that we don't plan to provide backwards compatibility for this | 20:10 |
| redrobot | ohai jraim! I thought you'd be out otday. | 20:10 |
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| tsv | redrobot, thanks | 20:10 |
| jraim | I'm on my phone. | 20:10 |
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| redrobot | #action redrobot will email list about plans to remove the tenant id from the URI | 20:11 |
| tsv | jraim, got you. thanks | 20:11 |
| atiwari | tsv, redrobot, jraim and woodster, we have discussed one use case in summit around order order | 20:11 |
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| redrobot | atiwari use case regarding the tenant ID in the URI? | 20:12 |
| atiwari | where we need an ability to specify x-keystone-id in header for Orders POST case | 20:12 |
| atiwari | yes | 20:12 |
| atiwari | and we had a verbal approval from jraim | 20:12 |
| redrobot | atiwari I think the keystone middleware takes care of that? | 20:12 |
| atiwari | that is not included in tsv bp | 20:12 |
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| atiwari | I don't think so | 20:13 |
| atiwari | let me add my concern in bp | 20:13 |
| redrobot | atiwari ok, sounds good | 20:13 |
| redrobot | let's move on | 20:13 |
| redrobot | #topic Mid-cycle meetup | 20:13 |
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| redrobot | hopefully everyone knows about this already... it will be in two weeks in San Antonio, TXS | 20:14 |
| redrobot | *TX | 20:14 |
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| bubbva | yes | 20:14 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Barbican/JunoMeetup | 20:14 |
| redrobot | also, please RSVP if you're planning on coming to the meetup/hackathon | 20:15 |
| redrobot | we want to make sure we have enough room for everyone | 20:15 |
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| redrobot | any questions/concerns about the meetup? | 20:16 |
| rellerreller | Is there an agenda or anything yet? | 20:16 |
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| redrobot | rellerreller we don't have a set agenda... I've only been to one of these before, for the Swift project. I was thinking we'll probably be discussing outstanding blueprints, or trying to merge some of the larger CRs that are in flight. | 20:18 |
| rellerreller | OK, I didn't know what to do if we have something we want to talk about. I guess we just bring it up when we get there? | 20:18 |
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| redrobot | rellerreller yeah, or bring it up here, or at next week's meeting if you feel we need some time to prepare before the meetup | 20:20 |
| rellerreller | OK, sounds good | 20:20 |
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| woodster__ | maybe we need an etherpad to capture issues folks have? | 20:20 |
| notmyname | redrobot: we've now done 2. we jsut had the second one in the Denver area a few weeks ago | 20:20 |
| redrobot | woodster__ that's a good idea | 20:21 |
| rellerreller | They had an etherpad for the Nova one I went to | 20:21 |
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| redrobot | #action redrobot will add an etherpad page for meetup discussion | 20:21 |
| notmyname | in our experience, starting the first day with a whiteboard/flipchart list of stuff people wanted to cover is really good. then self-organize to do that, allowing for a little structure to guide things that need more participation | 20:21 |
| redrobot | notmyname that sounds like a good plan. thanks! | 20:22 |
| reaperhulk | strangely this notmyname character seems to know what's up ;) | 20:22 |
| notmyname | reaperhulk: it's a clever facade ;-) | 20:22 |
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| reaperhulk | people make entire careers out of such façades! *eyes dart back and forth* | 20:23 |
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| notmyname | redrobot: and as to types of things to do would include design discussions, in-person code reviews (_really_ useful for major patches), and logistics. in my mind the best thing is just that a bunch of smart people get in the same room together :-) | 20:23 |
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| tsv | notmyname, meetup at Denver, hmm...closer to where I and atiwari live/work | 20:23 |
| redrobot | notmyname I agree... especially the in-person code reviews. | 20:24 |
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| notmyname | redrobot: ya, but the balancing act is that with 20-30 people in the room, you can't effectively have good participation on just one thing at a time. 6-8 is generally the best for covering a single thing | 20:25 |
| woodster__ | I really liked that Swift hackathon last year, just sayin' ;) | 20:26 |
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| notmyname | great to hear! | 20:27 |
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| redrobot | ok, that's all I have on the agenda for this week | 20:28 |
| redrobot | does anyone want to bring up anything? | 20:29 |
| woodster__ | Just keep on reviewing...a few blueprints and CRs out there for your reviewing pleasure | 20:29 |
| tsv | redrobot, one question | 20:30 |
| redrobot | tsv yes? | 20:30 |
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| tsv | we have few CRs around pecan based issues. do we need to open CR with pecan instead of using hooks to fix it ourself ? | 20:31 |
| redrobot | #topic Pecan issues | 20:31 |
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| redrobot | tsv I think it depends on which issues we're talking about... woodster__ and jvrbanac were having an interesting discussion about that this morning | 20:32 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac ping | 20:32 |
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| tsv | redrobot, here is one of my CR review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100814 | 20:32 |
| redrobot | tsv, yes I think that's the one we were talking about today... | 20:33 |
| redrobot | hockeynut ping | 20:33 |
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| tsv | redrobot, is there an action item to open CRs with pecan ? or should i open one for this CR ? | 20:34 |
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| jvrbanac | redrobot, so I think that there were a couple of concerns across some of these CR's. It seems like we're using hook behavior when it should probably be dealt with elsewhere in Barbican or upstream | 20:35 |
| redrobot | tsv I was hoping jvrbanac or hockeynut would respond to this. I know hockeynut (Steve Heyman) has talked to the Pecan folks about issues before | 20:35 |
| tsv | redrobot, ok. thanks | 20:36 |
| woodster__ | I think hockeynut was going to approach Pecan about this issue | 20:36 |
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| tsv | woodster, makes sense. i remember falcon handling this automatically | 20:37 |
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| jvrbanac | tsv, woodster__, yeah I think hockeynut was going to see if there was a proper way of dealing with this in Pecan or discover if it's something we should help them with. | 20:38 |
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| tsv | jvrbanac, thanks. will wait to hear what they say | 20:38 |
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| tsv | redrobot, jvrbanac, woodster, so no code change, but could we have the tests that expects 405 in ? | 20:39 |
| jvrbanac | tsv, I think there will be some sort of code change, but hopefully not where we are trying to intercept the calls and test them manually. | 20:40 |
| redrobot | #action hockeynut will follow up with Pecan devs about index function side-effect | 20:40 |
| tsv | jvrbanac, ok | 20:41 |
| jvrbanac | tsv, we really just need to chat with the Pecan folks a bit on this as this seems like it affects more than just us. | 20:41 |
| redrobot | jvrbanac how do you feel abotu adding the 405 tests? | 20:41 |
| woodster__ | won't those tests fail now without some code behind it? | 20:42 |
| tsv | woodster, yes it would. it makes sense to add those after the pecan fix is in | 20:43 |
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| jvrbanac | tsv, agreed. Whatever the solution is for pecan, I think the tests should follow that | 20:43 |
| tsv | jvrbanac, thanks. | 20:43 |
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| redrobot | ok, guys, we have about 15 still. are there any other topics we want to discuss? If not we can call it a day | 20:46 |
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| redrobot | I'll take that as a no. Thanks everyone! See you all back here next week. | 20:49 |
| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 23 20:49:40 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-06-23-20.00.html | 20:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-06-23-20.00.txt | 20:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-06-23-20.00.log.html | 20:49 |
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| jvrbanac | thx redrobot | 20:49 |
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| hockeynut | redrobot I'm back now. Was trying to use colloquy from Dr office but connection was horrible | 21:06 |
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