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| irenab | hi | 13:01 |
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| irenab | anyone here for pci_passthough meeting? | 13:02 |
| rpothier | I am | 13:02 |
| sadasu | hello | 13:02 |
| irenab | #startmeeting pci_passthrough | 13:03 |
| sadasu | based on baoli's email he would be ablout 15 min late | 13:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 13:03:00 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is irenab. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:03 |
| irenab | I think we can discuss the current issues for integrating patches, till baoli joins | 13:03 |
| itzikb | Hi , I got Rob patch.Checked and had small Error | 13:05 |
| itzikb | Got a fix from Rob and checking it now | 13:05 |
| irenab | sadasu: does it work for you? | 13:05 |
| heyongli | hi | 13:05 |
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| irenab | heyongli: hi | 13:05 |
| sadasu | irenab: so far yes | 13:06 |
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| irenab | rpothier: when do you think the rest of the patches will be out for review? | 13:06 |
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| irenab | the nova vif_driver part? | 13:07 |
| rpothier | irenab: they should be out this week, just working on how to split them up | 13:07 |
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| irenab | rpothier: thanks a lot | 13:08 |
| irenab | I pushed updated MD for review, will upload the agent soon | 13:08 |
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| irenab | heyongli: did you have a chance to review? | 13:09 |
| rpothier | irenab: It will be easier to maintain if we could some of it pushed up | 13:09 |
| heyongli | irenab, which patch | 13:09 |
| heyongli | do you mean your "part 1" patch? | 13:10 |
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| irenab | heyongli: yes | 13:10 |
| irenab | it allows to run MD without agent | 13:10 |
| heyongli | i review, but mostly study process | 13:10 |
| irenab | thanks | 13:10 |
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| heyongli | i try to understand more till have any comments | 13:11 |
| irenab | rpothier: regarding patch splitting, I think the patch dependency can help | 13:11 |
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| baoli | Hi | 13:13 |
| irenab | baoli: hi, welcome back | 13:13 |
| heyongli | hi baoli | 13:13 |
| irenab | baoli: according to email you sent today, you have some issue to discuss | 13:15 |
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| baoli | I am working on the patch that involves the PCI area. | 13:15 |
| baoli | one last fix I have to make is due to the missing devspec module. | 13:15 |
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| baoli | one test failure, and the way it's written makes the mocking kind of difficult. | 13:16 |
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| baoli | I'm hoping that I can get it out today. | 13:16 |
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| heyongli | cool | 13:17 |
| baoli | another patch is for the changes made in the libvirt area. So in total we should have four patches to complete the nova change | 13:18 |
| irenab | baoli: great! menawhile we got patches from Rob to keep develoment environment working | 13:19 |
| baoli | Another issue is that I have a fix that has been there for months. It got approved by reviewers, but just not the core reviewers. Have been trying to reach out to the core reviewers several times. | 13:19 |
| baoli | irenab, heard from Rob on that. | 13:19 |
| heyongli | i remember there is | 13:19 |
| heyongli | i will try to give +1 once again, this might bring patch to top of review list | 13:20 |
| irenab | baoli: can you please add the list of all patches for review on team wiki page? | 13:20 |
| baoli | all of these: dividing up patches, merging with existing fix, etc, make the whole thing quite chanllenging. | 13:20 |
| baoli | irenab, sure will do. | 13:20 |
| irenab | I'll add the neuton side as well | 13:21 |
| baoli | heyongli, thanks | 13:21 |
| irenab | I updated on last meeting, that there is a bug with regards to binding:profile on neutron port-update, will send the fix soon | 13:21 |
| baoli | irenab, got that. Thanks for fixing it. | 13:22 |
| irenab | baoli: do you use patch dependency? | 13:22 |
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| irenab | I think to do it with neutron MD.. | 13:22 |
| baoli | irenab, I haven't | 13:22 |
| irenab | It seems to be helpful to have number of patches for same bp | 13:23 |
| irenab | and use patch dependency between them | 13:23 |
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| baoli | irenab, I think that I may have to do that to control the order of merges. | 13:23 |
| baoli | irenab, but would it help in passing unit test? | 13:24 |
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| irenab | baoli: I think so, will find out soon :-) | 13:24 |
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| irenab | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gerrit_Workflow#Add_dependency | 13:25 |
| heyongli | it should be dependency for patches in one set, but for unit test might get a little bit annoying | 13:25 |
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| irenab | heyongli: any advice for workflow? | 13:26 |
| heyongli | just follow the lingk | 13:26 |
| heyongli | you paste | 13:26 |
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| irenab | heyongli: ad what are the issue with unit tests? | 13:27 |
| heyongli | some unit test need split | 13:27 |
| irenab | ok | 13:27 |
| irenab | Is there something else to discuss today? | 13:28 |
| heyongli | #link http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Advanced_usage | 13:28 |
| baoli | irenab, I think that it should help with the unit test. | 13:28 |
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| heyongli | this work flow some time resolve strange things | 13:28 |
| baoli | that's all I have from my side. | 13:28 |
| heyongli | look forward to see whole patch set -:) | 13:29 |
| baoli | yep, it's coming up soon | 13:29 |
| irenab | baol: nothing else from my side as well | 13:29 |
| heyongli | great thing, lets review | 13:29 |
| heyongli | neither me | 13:29 |
| irenab | great, so we can work for extra 30 mins :-) | 13:30 |
| irenab | thank you all | 13:30 |
| baoli | thanks | 13:30 |
| heyongli | thanks | 13:30 |
| irenab | #endmeeting | 13:30 |
| sadasu | baoli: I thought we were going to discuss intel port behavior | 13:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 13:30:36 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-07-15-13.03.html | 13:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-07-15-13.03.txt | 13:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-07-15-13.03.log.html | 13:30 |
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| irenab | sorry, I probably colosed the meeting too soon? | 13:30 |
| sadasu | weren't we going to discuss intel port admin state | 13:31 |
| sadasu | ? | 13:31 |
| sadasu | baoli, heyongli: r u there? | 13:32 |
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| sadasu | ok...I guess this a topic for the next meeting? | 13:34 |
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| kgriffs | I know there's been some confusion re Marconi meeting time, so I'd like to ask who is here to chat about Marconi right now? | 15:00 |
| malini | o/ | 15:00 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:00 |
| sriram | o/ | 15:00 |
| ametts | o/ | 15:00 |
| malini | we are always around, no matter what time ;) | 15:01 |
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| kgriffs | ok, we'll go ahead with who's here today and sort out the meeting time on the mailing list | 15:02 |
| kgriffs | #startmeeting marconi | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 15:02:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kgriffs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'marconi' | 15:02 |
| kgriffs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Marconi#Agenda | 15:02 |
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| kgriffs | #topic new meeting time | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new meeting time (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 15:03 | |
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| kgriffs | so, if we want to keep the meeting time on the same day yet accommodate people on opposite sides of the planet, 1900 is our best bet | 15:04 |
| kgriffs | 1900 UTC | 15:04 |
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| kgriffs | a little later would be better, but that conflicts with TC and project release meetings | 15:05 |
| kgriffs | that is 7am NZT | 15:05 |
| peoplemerge_ | yay | 15:05 |
| kgriffs | flwang says that is a little early, but he could try to make it work | 15:05 |
| kgriffs | other thing we could try is move to a different day and do it at 2000 or 2100 UTC | 15:05 |
| kgriffs | let's assign something to someone who isn't here | 15:06 |
| kgriffs | :D | 15:06 |
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| kgriffs | #action flaper87 or kgriffs to send out email to finalize new team meeting time/day | 15:06 |
| kgriffs | so yeah, we'll have to get some feedback from everyone on that. I'd like to start meeting at the new time starting next week | 15:07 |
| kgriffs | any suggestions/questions/comments/rude remarks before we move on? | 15:07 |
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| kgriffs | #topic Juno-2 ends July 24! | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Juno-2 ends July 24! (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 15:08 | |
| kgriffs | any questions? :D | 15:08 |
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| kgriffs | #link https://launchpad.net/marconi/+milestone/juno-2 | 15:08 |
| malini | want to go thru the list of pending stuff? | 15:08 |
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| kgriffs | yeah, we will do that in a minute once we get through "Extra things" on the agenda | 15:09 |
| kgriffs | oh, also, FWIW, I updated the roadmap - moved some stuff out of j-2. | 15:09 |
| kgriffs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Roadmap_(Marconi) | 15:10 |
| kgriffs | anyway, we need REVIEWS | 15:10 |
| kgriffs | I'm personally going to be spending a lot of time on reviews this week. I'd love to see everyone else pitching in as well so we can get patches merged quickly | 15:10 |
| kgriffs | also | 15:10 |
| kgriffs | if you have a patch pending | 15:10 |
| malini | last I checked, many of the pending reviews had some kinda -1 | 15:11 |
| kgriffs | please update it quickly once you get teh reviewz | 15:11 |
| malini | then kgriffs went ahead & submitted a few more patches | 15:11 |
| kgriffs | heh | 15:11 |
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| prashanthr_ | kgriffs: Sure. I have done it just today. | 15:11 |
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| kgriffs | I will say... I tend to skip patches that have a -1 from Jenkins | 15:12 |
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| kgriffs | so please, get those fixed ASAP! | 15:12 |
| kgriffs | and please, ping me or another core reviewer if you are waiting on a review. we have lots of distractions and so it can be helpful to get some pokes. :D | 15:13 |
| kgriffs | cool? | 15:13 |
| prashanthr_ | kgriffs: Sure :) | 15:13 |
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| kgriffs | #topic API test organization | 15:14 |
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| peoplemerge_ | will do. | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | #link https://github.com/openstack/marconi/tree/master/tests/unit/queues/transport/wsgi | 15:15 |
| peoplemerge_ | :) | 15:15 |
| kgriffs | so.... | 15:15 |
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| kgriffs | if you look at, e.g., test_v1_1.py | 15:15 |
| kgriffs | we have all kinds of two-liner classes like this | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | class TestClaimsMongoDB(v1_1.TestClaimsMongoDB): | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | url_prefix = URL_PREFIX | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | It seems silly to write our real tests in a base class that is already specific to a certain version of the API, and then simply inherit from it under "tests" so that testunit will find it | 15:17 |
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| kgriffs | the original reason for the model as it now stands was to share the same base classes between 1.0 and 1.1, and then set a few class variables for minor variations in the test (e.g., url prefix) | 15:18 |
| kgriffs | however, now that we have copy-pasted all the base class tests between v1.0 and v1.1, this model seems like a waste of time | 15:19 |
| kgriffs | thoughts? | 15:19 |
| malini | we need to revisit the whole copy paste approach | 15:19 |
| malini | it works for now | 15:19 |
| malini | but is a lot of duplication | 15:19 |
| kgriffs | good point | 15:20 |
| sriram | hmm, we would probably need to do some analysis on which test belonging where. | 15:20 |
| peoplemerge_ | as a new dev, it confused me. | 15:20 |
| malini | I think we should revisit our entire test structure | 15:20 |
| malini | we have some tests in base.py - define what tests qualify to live there (if at all) | 15:21 |
| peoplemerge_ | couldn't we just move the test classes and mixin the url? | 15:21 |
| kgriffs | couple things | 15:21 |
| malini | peoplemerge_: as in specify the version in the actual tests? | 15:21 |
| kgriffs | first of all, I don't see what the url_prefix class variable is buying us at this point, since we already have duplicated the tests for 1.1 | 15:22 |
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| peoplemerge_ | malini: --^ | 15:22 |
| kgriffs | second of all, I think if we are sticking with the duplicated tests for now, we should just move them directly under the tests folder | 15:22 |
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| kgriffs | longer term | 15:23 |
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| kgriffs | I agree with malini | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | we need to rethink tests | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | lots of things about that | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | unit vs. functional | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | where they live | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | how to DRY | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | etc. | 15:23 |
| malini | is it an accident tht kgriffs thoughts look like a triangle? | 15:24 |
| * peoplemerge_ lol | 15:24 | |
| kgriffs | :D | 15:24 |
| vkmc | lol | 15:24 |
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| sriram | haha | 15:24 |
| kgriffs | TBH, I don't think we have time in Juno to do it, but I would like to see it as a major theme in K | 15:25 |
| kgriffs | I mean, the major test redux | 15:25 |
| malini | kgriffs: +1 | 15:25 |
| prashanthr_ | :D | 15:25 |
| kgriffs | we could do some smaller moves | 15:25 |
| kgriffs | in j-3 | 15:25 |
| peoplemerge_ | +1 | 15:25 |
| malini | kgriffs: +1 | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | ok. mind if I schedule a bug? | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | and malini: can you create a bp or something to help us remember the major refactoring work to do in K | 15:26 |
| malini | sure | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | #action kgriffs to schedule a bug | 15:26 |
| malini | There is also some chatter in the ML abt creating a common functional test structure for individual projects. We can be the guinea pigs, if we are anyways doing the revamp | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | #action malini to create a blueprint and start a wiki page or etherpad to keep track of ideas for testing redux | 15:27 |
| kgriffs | ok | 15:27 |
| kgriffs | next topic is "Move or copy _TRANSPORT_LIMITS_OPTIONS to pool catalog?" but I need flaper87|afk to be around for that. | 15:28 |
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| kgriffs | #topic Review actions from last time | 15:28 |
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| kgriffs | heh. looks like there weren't any | 15:28 |
| kgriffs | malini: btw, I moved rename the project to j-3 | 15:29 |
| malini | saw that ..thx :) | 15:29 |
| kgriffs | #topic Updates on blueprints | 15:29 |
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| kgriffs | #link https://launchpad.net/marconi/+milestone/juno-2 | 15:29 |
| kgriffs | malini: Tempest integration | 15:29 |
| malini | We have the graduation req complete (AFAIK) | 15:29 |
| malini | We now have coverage for all v1 APIs positive tests | 15:30 |
| malini | But Tempest will be an ongoing effort | 15:30 |
| malini | Next steps are v1.1 APIs & CLI tests | 15:30 |
| malini | But tht'll be for j-3 | 15:30 |
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| malini | But we really need the TC blessing to confirm tht we have met the grad reqs for Tempest - which I hope we'll do at the mid review | 15:31 |
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| malini | tht's all I had | 15:32 |
| malini | concerns/questions? | 15:33 |
| kgriffs | is this blueprint complete then? | 15:33 |
| kgriffs | are there other blueprints for those other items? | 15:33 |
| malini | yes - I'll create a new bp for other items | 15:33 |
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| kgriffs | ok. can you mark this bp as complete as well? | 15:33 |
| malini | sure..doing it now | 15:33 |
| kgriffs | I think it is important to celebrate our progress, and completing blueprints is one way to do that. :D | 15:34 |
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| kgriffs | sriram: API V1.1 - Treat a Missing Queue the Same as an Empty Queue | 15:34 |
| sriram | Yeah, I checked that. | 15:34 |
| malini | applause plzzz….The tempest bp is now 'Implemented' | 15:34 |
| sriram | its working as expected. | 15:34 |
| vkmc | \o/ | 15:34 |
| * kgriffs claps loudly | 15:34 | |
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| peoplemerge_ | :D | 15:34 |
| sriram | I'll go ahead and mark that as done. :) | 15:35 |
| * prashanthr_ Appalause :) | 15:35 | |
| kgriffs | sriram: w00t | 15:35 |
| kgriffs | malini: API v1.1 - Remove the endpoint to check if a queue exists | 15:35 |
| malini | I haven't started on tht yet.. | 15:35 |
| malini | But since it is removing existing functionality - I hope tht will be easy to get done | 15:35 |
| malini | I will submit a patch for it by tomorrow - or is it too ambitious? | 15:36 |
| kgriffs | sounds good | 15:38 |
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| malini | cool | 15:38 |
| kgriffs | kgriffs: API v1.1 Homedoc changes | 15:38 |
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| kgriffs | this is a catch-all to sanity-check the homedoc once all the other changes are done | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | I think this may slip to j-3 | 15:39 |
| malini | Alex has an outstanding patch for tht | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | since it depends on everything else being stable | 15:39 |
| sriram | exception handling :P | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | malini: oh darn, that never got merged? | 15:39 |
| * kgriffs hides | 15:39 | |
| kgriffs | ok, something else that needs teh reviewz! | 15:39 |
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| malini | It needs some updates from Alex - to address reviews | 15:41 |
| kgriffs | next | 15:41 |
| kgriffs | API v1.1 header changes. | 15:41 |
| malini | tht one also has a patch from Alex :D | 15:41 |
| kgriffs | yep | 15:41 |
| kgriffs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102007/ | 15:42 |
| kgriffs | let's get that reviewed ASAP | 15:42 |
| kgriffs | kgriffs: API v1.1 Response Document Changes | 15:42 |
| kgriffs | not started | 15:42 |
| kgriffs | hope to get a patch for that in a day or two | 15:42 |
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| kgriffs | kgriffs: API v1.1 Request Document Changes | 15:42 |
| kgriffs | halfway done | 15:42 |
| kgriffs | got a pending patch | 15:43 |
| kgriffs | please review! | 15:43 |
| kgriffs | :D | 15:43 |
| kgriffs | flaper87|afk: Support different types - flavors - of queues | 15:43 |
| kgriffs | iirc, Flavio asked for some eyes on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98793 | 15:44 |
| kgriffs | I'm pretty sure flavors is going to slip to j-3 | 15:44 |
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| kgriffs | esp. since it is going to require moving queue management to the control plane | 15:45 |
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| kgriffs | flwang: API v1.1 - Provide more detailed info with /health | 15:45 |
| kgriffs | I saw some code from flwang submitted yesterday | 15:45 |
| kgriffs | again, please review! | 15:46 |
| kgriffs | the plan is to provide two things | 15:46 |
| kgriffs | overall message stats for an entire pool | 15:46 |
| kgriffs | and a "deep health check" | 15:46 |
| kgriffs | the deep check will basically do a message lifecycle test | 15:46 |
| kgriffs | peoplemerge_: API v1.1 - Support application/x-msgpack | 15:46 |
| peoplemerge_ | thx for prioritizing the reviews, I wanted to take some on but didn't know which were (not) important. | 15:47 |
| peoplemerge_ | kgriffs: yes | 15:47 |
| peoplemerge_ | submitted test code for review only | 15:47 |
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| peoplemerge_ | got the hang of the review process | 15:47 |
| peoplemerge_ | will start implementation Thu/Fri | 15:48 |
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| peoplemerge_ | kgriffs: the last patchset can be reviewd (#..) | 15:49 |
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| peoplemerge_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106687/ | 15:49 |
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| peoplemerge_ | no sorry | 15:50 |
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| peoplemerge_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105830/4 | 15:51 |
| kgriffs | ok, thanks! | 15:51 |
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| kgriffs | you | 15:52 |
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| kgriffs | have probably seen these links, but we have some tips and tricks on the wiki | 15:52 |
| kgriffs | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Your_First_Patch_(Marconi) | 15:52 |
| kgriffs | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Your_First_Review_(Marconi) | 15:52 |
| kgriffs | prashanthr_: Redis Storage Driver (Basic) | 15:53 |
| prashanthr_ | kgriffs: All the controllers for redis storage driver | 15:53 |
| peoplemerge_ | kgriffs: have some other issues around implementation but can take them offline | 15:53 |
| prashanthr_ | are up for review now | 15:53 |
| peoplemerge_ | kgriffs: thx reading... | 15:53 |
| prashanthr_ | I guess we must have them for j-2. Just waiting for reviews | 15:53 |
| prashanthr_ | Test cases are also setup. | 15:53 |
| peoplemerge_ | when should I try to get impl done to have time for reviews by j2? | 15:54 |
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| prashanthr_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97178/ - Queue and Message Controllers. | 15:54 |
| prashanthr_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97701/ - Adding global dependencies. | 15:54 |
| prashanthr_ | https://review.openstack.org/104055 - Adding claims controllers | 15:54 |
| prashanthr_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104058/ - Implements Pools and Catalogue controllers for Redis | 15:54 |
| prashanthr_ | The following are the code patches | 15:54 |
| prashanthr_ | for the individual controllers | 15:54 |
| kgriffs | hmm.. usually takes a couple days to get a patch merged, even when we have lots of people doing reviews | 15:54 |
| kgriffs | peoplemerge_: ^^^ | 15:55 |
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| kgriffs | prashanthr_: great, nice work! Let's get those reviews | 15:55 |
| peoplemerge_ | k | 15:55 |
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| prashanthr_ | kgriffs: Sure. Thank you :) | 15:55 |
| kgriffs | we really should get everything merged by next wed | 15:55 |
| kgriffs | so we have a day for smoke testing or whatever | 15:56 |
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| prashanthr_ | kgriffs: That would really be awesome. Yes a smoke test will really help. | 15:56 |
| kgriffs | sriram: Basic Benchmarking | 15:56 |
| sriram | kgriffs: yes | 15:56 |
| sriram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98875/ -> the patch is here | 15:56 |
| sriram | The enivronment is setup here : 166.78.236.4 | 15:56 |
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| sriram | I have done some performance tweaking : https://gist.github.com/kgriffs/4027835 | 15:57 |
| kgriffs | prashanthr_: I think even the basic driver could be useful for single-app/private cloud deployments. Just a thought. | 15:57 |
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| kgriffs | cool | 15:57 |
| prashanthr_ | kgriffs: Totally agreed. | 15:57 |
| kgriffs | FWIW, I am researching those and more kernel tweaks for a future blog post. stay tuned. :D | 15:57 |
| sriram | so need we need to get it merged, for the next process to continue.. reporting patch | 15:58 |
| sriram | kgriffs: woohoo! :) | 15:58 |
| sriram | awesome | 15:58 |
| kgriffs | cool, thanks sriram. reviews please! | 15:58 |
| * kgriffs wonders whether anyone else is noticing a trend | 15:58 | |
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| kgriffs | ok, I will move "Reporting of Generated Benchmarks" to j-3 | 15:59 |
| kgriffs | sriram: with this, let's for the first patch do the "simplest thing that could possibly work" | 15:59 |
| kgriffs | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/gen-bench-reports | 15:59 |
| kgriffs | ok folks, we are outa time | 16:00 |
| sriram | cool | 16:00 |
| kgriffs | any final thoughts? | 16:00 |
| kgriffs | #topic open discussion | 16:00 |
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| kgriffs | 10 seconds. :) | 16:00 |
| kgriffs | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 16:01:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2014/marconi.2014-07-15-15.02.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2014/marconi.2014-07-15-15.02.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2014/marconi.2014-07-15-15.02.log.html | 16:01 |
| tomblank | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 16:01 |
| datsun180b | oh the robot may not be recognizing you as chair, how do we fix that? | 16:02 |
| tomblank | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 16:02:28 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tomblank. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| devkulkarni | really? I thought anybody who does start meeting is a chair | 16:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 16:02 |
| datsun180b | beats me then, guess it was asleep | 16:02 |
| tomblank | #topic Roll Call | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 16:02 | |
| paulmo | Paul Montgomery | 16:02 |
| datsun180b | Ed Cranford | 16:02 |
| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 16:02 |
| aratim | Arati | 16:02 |
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| peoplemerge_ | Dave Thomas | 16:03 |
| tomblank | Tom Blankenship, pro-tem Chair | 16:03 |
| stannie | Pierre Padrixe | 16:03 |
| james_li | James Li | 16:03 |
| PaulCzar | Paul Czarkowski | 16:03 |
| tomblank | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2014-07-01_1600_UTC our Agenda | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto - attention divided, will participate as much as I can. | 16:04 |
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| tomblank | thanks Adrian. | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2014-07-15_1600_UTC this week's agenda | 16:04 |
| tomblank | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| tomblank | anyone have any announcements? | 16:05 |
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| tomblank | since we don't have any open action items listed, let's jump to Blueprint/Task Review | 16:06 |
| tomblank | #topic Blueprint/Tasks Review | 16:07 |
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| tomblank | Any updates on the Build Farm | 16:08 |
| tomblank | #link https://review.openstack.org/100539 Build Farm Spec | 16:08 |
| devkulkarni | I guess the work continues on it | 16:08 |
| tomblank | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100539/ | 16:08 |
| stannie | Julien won't be available for the next days | 16:08 |
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| tomblank | stannie: thanks. do you have any update or should we wait until Julien returns? | 16:09 |
| stannie | last newt solum-infra-guestagent repository is now available in stackforge, last review (can't find the link) was merged | 16:09 |
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| stannie | going to see what I can do on guestagent this week | 16:09 |
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| devkulkarni | stannie: do we have a spec for guestagent? | 16:10 |
| tomblank | stannie: great, thanks. | 16:10 |
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| devkulkarni | or a blueprint? | 16:10 |
| stannie | it's in the build-farm link dev | 16:10 |
| devkulkarni | for the agent as well? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-build-farm don't see it there | 16:11 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100539/5/specs/juno/solum-build-farm.rst don't see it here as well | 16:11 |
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| stannie | but not really detailed for the moment indeed | 16:12 |
| devkulkarni | didn't mean to distract | 16:12 |
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| devkulkarni | okay, that's what I thought | 16:12 |
| devkulkarni | could you please then add some details in a bp or a spec before you start work on it? | 16:12 |
| stannie | sure | 16:12 |
| tomblank | stannie: thanks | 16:13 |
| devkulkarni | thanks stannie | 16:13 |
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| tomblank | anything else on this? | 16:14 |
| tomblank | Private git repo integration | 16:14 |
| tomblank | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/support-private-github-repos | 16:14 |
| devkulkarni | ravips has a WIP for this | 16:15 |
| devkulkarni | it looks good. remaining work items are the CLI changes, unit tests | 16:15 |
| muralia | i see he has made the changes that paulcz recommended | 16:15 |
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| muralia | the build is failing though. | 16:15 |
| devkulkarni | I thought it was because of the barbican client being absent from requirements.txt | 16:16 |
| muralia | he's included it in the new patch | 16:16 |
| devkulkarni | hmm.. lets try to touch base with ravips when is available | 16:17 |
| muralia | yup | 16:17 |
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| tomblank | muralia: can you reach out to ravips and see if there is something you can help with? | 16:18 |
| devkulkarni | but other than that it looks good to me. it is progressing, tomblank | 16:18 |
| muralia | i will | 16:18 |
| tomblank | devkulkarni: thanks.... | 16:18 |
| tomblank | muralia: thanks... | 16:18 |
| tomblank | the last one is Chained Trusts (julienvey, asalkeld) | 16:18 |
| tomblank | #link https://review.openstack.org/99908 | 16:18 |
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| devkulkarni | last I know about this was that we are getting around this issue | 16:19 |
| tomblank | i know that julienvey and asalkeld are both missing but does anyone else have any updates? | 16:19 |
| devkulkarni | by creating a heat stack upon startup | 16:19 |
| devkulkarni | it is part of one of the mistral patches by asalkeld | 16:19 |
| tomblank | devkulkarni: yes. | 16:19 |
| devkulkarni | so I guess we need to just take those patches forward | 16:20 |
| tomblank | any other blueprints/tasks that people have updates or questions on? | 16:20 |
| tomblank | devkulkarni: agree | 16:21 |
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| peoplemerge_ | any reviews that I can do? | 16:21 |
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| devkulkarni | peoplemerge_: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+solum,n,z | 16:21 |
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| adrian_otto | peoplemerge: you are welcome to review everything that's open | 16:22 |
| peoplemerge_ | devkulkarni: is there one useful yet suitable to a new reviewer? | 16:22 |
| devkulkarni | oh okay.. you could start with the spec reviews.. imo they are good place to get a feel for some problem without having to deal with code right away | 16:22 |
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| peoplemerge_ | adrian_otto: devkulkarni: ok | 16:23 |
| tomblank | #topic open discussion | 16:23 |
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| tomblank | I do have one topic for open discussion. | 16:24 |
| devkulkarni | also we have some refactoring stuff https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104637/ .. would be great to have more eyes on it | 16:24 |
| devkulkarni | peoplemerge_: also feel free to ping on #solum afterwards | 16:24 |
| noorul | peoplemerge_: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/solum,n,z | 16:24 |
| peoplemerge_ | devkulkarni: will start with that one, thx | 16:24 |
| devkulkarni | peoplemerge_: sounds good. | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | ooh, 104637 looks very interesting. I'm really happy to see that one. | 16:25 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b ^^ | 16:26 |
| datsun180b | bwuh | 16:26 |
| tomblank | what are everyone's thoughts about the need (or not) for a mid-cycle meet-up? | 16:26 |
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| devkulkarni | tomblank: what time-frame you have in mind? | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | datsun180b: we should probably have copyright notices in our shell scripts too | 16:27 |
| devkulkarni | I feel that right now is a bit early to meet — we are kind of clear what need to be done and where we are heading | 16:27 |
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| adrian_otto | that identify the license that they are covered by | 16:27 |
| devkulkarni | tomblank ^^ | 16:27 |
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| tomblank | i would think August or early September. any later and it's too close to the Paris summit. | 16:28 |
| devkulkarni | I vote for late August / early September, if we have to hold one | 16:28 |
| datsun180b | hey fixup-spec-repo merged | 16:28 |
| noorul | also it is important to take look at where we are after atlanta summit | 16:28 |
| stannie | yeah late August/early Sept. would be more appropriated than right now | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | tomblank: please elaborate on your rationale about "too close" to the summit | 16:29 |
| PaulCzar | adrian_otto: doesn’t this cover the copyright / license for anything in the repo - https://github.com/stackforge/solum/blob/master/LICENSE ? | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | my understanding is that we will have a relatively small number of Solum stackers attending in Paris. | 16:30 |
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| datsun180b | my French skills have slipped way under what i'd call conversational | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | PaulCzar: yes, for redistribution. It's just a best practice to label each file, so if they end up elsewhere, the provenance of them is more clear. | 16:30 |
| datsun180b | adrian_otto: then what purpose LICENSE at all | 16:31 |
| tomblank | adrian_otto: sure. i see a primary value in a f2f meeting is to sync on the juno deliverables, prioritize those deliverables and then have time to actually complete them prior to the Juno summit. | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | datsun180b: it applies when you have something that's not practical to label individually | 16:31 |
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| datsun180b | fair enough | 16:32 |
| tomblank | if we only have a month or so before the summit, we may not have time to course adjust or get things done prior to the summit. | 16:32 |
| datsun180b | those scripts will get a license soon | 16:32 |
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| tomblank | i am also aware of the time commitment for folks to travel in October and then potentially travel again in November (for those traveling to the summit). | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | tomblank: good reason. So, let's shoot for September? | 16:33 |
| noorul | I nova I see that shell scripts carry license header | 16:33 |
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| noorul | s/^I/In | 16:34 |
| tomblank | If we feel we need to meet then September would be appropriate. | 16:34 |
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| tomblank | I am also ok if folks feel that for this cycle, we don't need to meet. I know that some people were voicing that opinion last week... | 16:34 |
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| adrian_otto | we could always make a tentative plan, and ask attendees not to make any non-refundable travel plans until a final confirmation. If it does not make sense to meet as we approach that tentative date, we can cancel it. | 16:35 |
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| devkulkarni | we could try that and see how it goes.. | 16:35 |
| devkulkarni | we had also discussed doing a virtual meetup of sorts | 16:36 |
| tomblank | adrian_otto: that sounds like a plan. we should also set a trigger date where we make a decision (ex: 30 days prior to dates). | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | yes, exactly | 16:36 |
| tomblank | devkulkarni: the problem with a virtual meeting is the time zone logistics so that everyone interested could attend :) | 16:37 |
| iccha | round? | 16:38 |
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| devkulkarni | tomblank: oh that's right. we had talked about that issue. | 16:39 |
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| tomblank | devkulkarni: we could still do a virtual meeting because the time zone issue may be less than traveling to Austin... | 16:40 |
| devkulkarni | yeah.. and in that case we might do it for more days instead of typical two | 16:40 |
| tomblank | devkulkarni: agreed | 16:41 |
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| tomblank | sounds like we will tentatively plan on a meeting in mid-September but will make a final decision in Mid-August on if we need to meet or not. | 16:42 |
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| devkulkarni | +1 | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | +! | 16:42 |
| noorul | +1 | 16:42 |
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| tomblank | #agreed we will tentatively plan on a meeting in mid-September but will make a final decision in Mid-August on if we need to meet or not. | 16:42 |
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| tomblank | other topics? | 16:42 |
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| devkulkarni | noorul: how is the spec process working out for you? | 16:43 |
| noorul | hardly find time to review | 16:43 |
| devkulkarni | hmm.. I think for most of the big changes most of us have now gotten into the habit of creating a spec first. | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | I have been happy with it so far | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | the template challenges us to think about our plans throuroughly | 16:45 |
| noorul | but I see that nothing gets merge | 16:45 |
| noorul | s/merge/merged | 16:45 |
| tomblank | adrian_otto: +1 | 16:45 |
| devkulkarni | what do you mean? | 16:45 |
| noorul | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/solum-specs,n,z | 16:45 |
| devkulkarni | I think some of the unmerged specs are unmerged because of some minor points which the author needs to resolve | 16:45 |
| devkulkarni | this is same as any other review | 16:45 |
| noorul | isn't merge == approval ? | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:closed+project:stackforge/solum-specs,n,z | 16:46 |
| datsun180b | right, so work shouldn't officially start on unmerged repos | 16:46 |
| devkulkarni | yes, but we have also said that we can start code with WIP, and not merge it before the spec is merged | 16:46 |
| devkulkarni | thanks adrian_otto | 16:47 |
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| noorul | adrian_otto: that list has only one spec | 16:47 |
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| noorul | sorry two | 16:47 |
| datsun180b | for now! | 16:48 |
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| devkulkarni | I see 5 merged nd 2 abandoned | 16:48 |
| noorul | 3 is repo related not acutal spec | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: his point is that most of those are housekeeping reviews, not specs | 16:48 |
| devkulkarni | sure, only 2 are for core features I guess | 16:48 |
| devkulkarni | fair enough. but I would still disagree with the contention that specs are not getting merged. | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | noorul's comment is valid, we should make a concerted effort to clean up specs to the point that we merge them | 16:49 |
| tomblank | i think it is a valid point. we need to continue to focus on reviewing and approving (merging) the specs... | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | we naturally de-prioritize that, because these are not actually code | 16:49 |
| gpilz | +q | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | but if we treated them like code, then we could get to a merge point sooner | 16:50 |
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| tomblank | adrian_otto: +1 | 16:50 |
| gpilz | i have one other thing that I'd like to ask a question about | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | gpilz: in open discussion it's the wild west. ask away. | 16:51 |
| devkulkarni | gpilz: listening | 16:51 |
| tomblank | gpliz: of course... | 16:51 |
| gpilz | the following bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-camp-api | 16:51 |
| gpilz | has a note saying that it has be superseded by the "Pipeline" blueprint | 16:51 |
| gpilz | from my point of view, the two things have nothing to do with one another | 16:52 |
| gpilz | so I'm confused | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | I'll re-open it | 16:52 |
| gpilz | thanks | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | that point of view is rooted from the perspective that there was not a volunteer to contribute that | 16:53 |
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| adrian_otto | gpilz: what is your LP username? | 16:55 |
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| gpilz | gilbert-pilz | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | ok, you are now the assignee for the BP | 16:55 |
| gpilz | woot! | 16:55 |
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| tomblank | we have 4 minutes left... any other topics? | 16:56 |
| tomblank | ok, thanks everyone. we'll end a few minutes early. | 16:57 |
| tomblank | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 16:57:36 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
| devkulkarni | thanks tomblank | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-07-15-16.02.html | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-07-15-16.02.txt | 16:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-07-15-16.02.log.html | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | thanks Tom | 16:57 |
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| katyafervent2 | hi | 17:01 |
| ruhe | #startmeeting murano | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 17:01:11 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ruhe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:01 |
| ruhe | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda#Agenda | 17:01 |
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| ruhe | katyafervent2: hi | 17:01 |
| sergmelikyan | o/ | 17:01 |
| stanlagun | hi | 17:01 |
| iyozhikov | hi | 17:01 |
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| tsufiev | hi | 17:02 |
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| sjmc7 | hi | 17:02 |
| ruhe | ok. we have a quorum. i hope more people will join soon | 17:02 |
| ruhe | #topic action items review | 17:02 |
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| ruhe | first AI is - ruhe: create stackforge/murano-apps project for apps from murano-app-incubator | 17:03 |
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| ruhe | and it's done - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107071/ ; now we'll need to wait for this patch to be merged | 17:03 |
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| katyafervent2 | great! | 17:04 |
| ruhe | please note that this will be an empty repo, i've specifically excluded an option which allows to populate repo with upstream from murano-project on github | 17:04 |
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| sergmelikyan | ruhe, this is right. Currently our app-incubator is quite far from what we hope it is should be | 17:04 |
| ruhe | we didn't pay much attention to reviews in github repo, so we'll have a chance to review each app again | 17:04 |
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| ruhe | there are no more action item from previous meeting. let's move on | 17:05 |
| ruhe | #topic [katyafervent] provide an update on horizon/dashboard/selenium tests research | 17:05 |
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| ruhe | katyafervent2: please | 17:05 |
| katyafervent2 | it turns out, that there are just a few tests in horizon that use selenium | 17:06 |
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| ruhe | tsufiev: i believe you also researched this area in horizon? | 17:07 |
| tsufiev | ruhe, yep | 17:07 |
| katyafervent2 | in integration tests they prerared infrustructure, and currently just one test is ready in this section | 17:07 |
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| tsufiev | ruhe, there are integration tests and unit-tests | 17:07 |
| katyafervent2 | it uses page object model to make selenium tests clear and easier to refactor | 17:07 |
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| tsufiev | and it turns out (for horizon) that writing unit test using selenium is a hard thing because it is hard to mock out client calls using selenium | 17:08 |
| katyafervent2 | and i guess that we found the solution about hiw dashboard tests could be run on the openstack Jenkins | 17:08 |
| ruhe | and i guess we identified a few point we could imporve in our selenium tests: it's difficult to run these tests in development environemnt, it's impossible to run these tests in dsvm (devstack vm in gates) job | 17:09 |
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| * ruhe doesn't know how ruhe manages to make so many grammatical mistakes | 17:09 | |
| tsufiev | one can use @override_settings for SeleniumTestCase - so that is a way that new unit tests could be written with Selenium: to replace direct python imports with dynamic imports of client modules specified in config | 17:10 |
| katyafervent2 | right, and it will be possiable to run tests on devstack installation | 17:10 |
| ruhe | katyafervent2: when will it be possible? | 17:10 |
| sjmc7 | ruhe - let's do this in russian and see how i do with grammar :) | 17:10 |
| katyafervent2 | since all improvements will be tested and merged | 17:10 |
| ruhe | sjmc7: good idea, we should try that ;) | 17:11 |
| ruhe | katyafervent2: do you have a patch on review? | 17:11 |
| ruhe | i could test it on devstack | 17:11 |
| katyafervent2 | there are two of them right niw abd the third is coming | 17:12 |
| tsufiev | ruhe, but we don't need upstream horizon to adopt that approach, for murano it will be sufficient to move MURANOCLIENT to the setings.py - so we could mock it in Selenium | 17:12 |
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| tsufiev | then muranodashboard will be tested independently from murano-api | 17:12 |
| ruhe | tsufiev: do you say that there is a way to mock API calls in dashboard and run selenium tests on top of that? | 17:13 |
| tsufiev | ruhe, exactly | 17:13 |
| katyafervent2 | tsufiev but we still need in integration tests | 17:13 |
| tsufiev | katyafervent, i don't doubt that integration tests are needed | 17:14 |
| ruhe | tsufiev: katyafervent2: i think that we need to spend more time on this and try to conduct our plan with this in form of a blueprint | 17:14 |
| tsufiev | it's just an approach to writing Selenium unit tests | 17:14 |
| katyafervent2 | tsufiev thats a lit of work - you need to mock all calls | 17:14 |
| tsufiev | ruhe, katyafervent: that's how I did in the horizon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103895/6/horizon/test/tests/selenium_tests.py | 17:15 |
| ruhe | katyafervent2: tsufiev: will you please follow up on this in an etherpad document? | 17:15 |
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| tsufiev | I've mocked only openstack_auth | 17:15 |
| tsufiev | ruhe, yes | 17:16 |
| ruhe | tsufiev: this look promisiong | 17:16 |
| ruhe | ok. thank you | 17:16 |
| ruhe | #action katyafervent2 and tsufiev follow up on selenium testing in an etherpad document | 17:16 |
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| ruhe | #topic Current state of Murano testing | 17:17 |
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| ruhe | i'd like to provide a briefe update on murano-ci | 17:17 |
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| ruhe | murano-ci has been flaky for a long time. and there are several reasons for that | 17:17 |
| ruhe | we're working on stabilisation step by step | 17:18 |
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| ruhe | also, we hope to re-locate CI to the dedicated server in a new data center; that should make things more stable | 17:18 |
| ruhe | any updates or questions on this topic? | 17:19 |
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| sjmc7 | no. but we need it stabkle | 17:20 |
| tsufiev | what's about fix so that we can see test artifacts from gerrit? | 17:20 |
| sergmelikyan | tsufiev, done | 17:20 |
| tsufiev | sergmelikyan, hurray ) | 17:20 |
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| ruhe | sergmelikyan: is it really done? i haven't seen artifacts published along with job logs in case of job failure | 17:21 |
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| katyafervent2 | iyozhikov, working on that | 17:22 |
| iyozhikov | i'll just check | 17:22 |
| ruhe | ok. let's move on then | 17:22 |
| tsufiev | ruhe, check https://murano-ci.mirantis.com/logs/02/103502/6/check/murano-dashboard-integration-tests-centos/23a4ae6/ | 17:22 |
| tsufiev | the recent patchset, they are here | 17:22 |
| ruhe | #topic approval of BP dynamic-ui-specify-no-explicit-name-field | 17:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "approval of BP dynamic-ui-specify-no-explicit-name-field (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:22 | |
| sergmelikyan | + | 17:23 |
| ruhe | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/dynamic-ui-specify-no-explicit-name-field | 17:23 |
| ruhe | as we agreed on our last meeting, BPs should be approved by a consensus decision of the whole team | 17:23 |
| ruhe | BP was discussed in a mail thread | 17:23 |
| ruhe | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/040264.html | 17:23 |
| sjmc7 | the discussion was about versioning | 17:24 |
| ruhe | i'd like to let everyone comment on this BP before we move forward with the implementation | 17:24 |
| sjmc7 | the email was about incrementing versions | 17:25 |
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| ruhe | sjmc7: right, mail thread covered only a small part of this bp | 17:25 |
| tsufiev | sjmc7, agree, but that was the most dubious thing in that BP | 17:25 |
| sjmc7 | i agree that no UI specific fields should be passed to the engine | 17:25 |
| sjmc7 | but the reasoning seems wrong; it might be very useful to have 'name' for debugging | 17:26 |
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| sjmc7 | in terms of bumping the version number, no comment here, since we have no packages in the wild | 17:26 |
| tsufiev | stanlagun, are you here? | 17:26 |
| stanlagun | yep | 17:27 |
| ruhe | sjmc7: would you like to postpone implementation and spend some time to discuss implementation details in BP spec? | 17:27 |
| stanlagun | there should be name. Just not as a class property. | 17:27 |
| sjmc7 | i'm not really clear what the issue is | 17:28 |
| stanlagun | Maybe '?'/name will be the best place | 17:28 |
| sjmc7 | i think storing UI-specific stuff separately is probably an ok solution | 17:28 |
| stanlagun | the issue is that only declared properties can appear inside object model. For everything else there is a special hidden place - '?' | 17:29 |
| tsufiev | sjmc7, the issue is actually with default MuranoPL behaviour with unknown attributes in input JSON: should it reject them and fail or should it ignore them silently? | 17:29 |
| gokrokve | I don't see any problem to keep name as a class property | 17:29 |
| sjmc7 | tsufiev- if we know what they're called, they're not unexpected | 17:29 |
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| gokrokve | In fact we use names quite often internally in workflows to generate some resource names | 17:29 |
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| gokrokve | I think unexpected property should be ignored with warnings in logs | 17:30 |
| stanlagun | gokrokve: it is ok to have name where you want it and if you declare such property. The problem is that curent UI forces this property in every object no matter if it was declared or not | 17:30 |
| sjmc7 | nobody will look at logs | 17:30 |
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| stanlagun | gokrokve: this is how it works now and it is wrong | 17:30 |
| sjmc7 | i'm a fan of aggressive validation where possible | 17:31 |
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| tsufiev | gokrokve, dteselkin could tell you how much this approach is perilous :) | 17:31 |
| gokrokve | There is no good mechanism in Horizon to provide a feedback | 17:31 |
| stanlagun | because of such behavior it is very hard to catch type errors where you just mistype property name and default value was used instead | 17:31 |
| gokrokve | We will need to implement some form with results from API | 17:31 |
| ruhe | sjmc7: agree. turns out we had warnings about indexes being too long for a long time and one day those warnings turned into errors | 17:31 |
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| stanlagun | if deployment will fail it will be hard not to notice | 17:32 |
| sjmc7 | we're getting those warnings now | 17:33 |
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| gokrokve | I think in UI we need to have a form with validation. In this form we can show all errors and messages from API | 17:33 |
| stanlagun | if there are properties in object model that are not declared in MuranoPL it is 100% sign of programmer's mistake | 17:33 |
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| sjmc7 | the engine can refuse the deployment and make that clear in the deployment status. i don't like silent errors at all | 17:33 |
| stanlagun | sjmc7: 100% agree | 17:34 |
| tsufiev | I think the problem will partly go away when dynamic UI will be generated from MuranoPL classes | 17:34 |
| gokrokve | Agree. We need to have some reportings. | 17:34 |
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| ruhe | seem like we need to continue discussion on this blueprint elsewhere and postpone the implementation | 17:34 |
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| stanlagun | tsufiev: when it will be generated it will become even more important to fail because if unknown property occurs in OM this is guaranteed to be a bug | 17:35 |
| sergmelikyan | sjmc7, stanlagun, tsufiev let's discuss this later :) It's look like hot topic | 17:35 |
| tsufiev | on the other hand, UI always needs a name for every manageable entity - to show it properly... but it could calculate the entity's name from some other sources - explicitly given name is not the only option | 17:35 |
| stanlagun | ruhe: it seems that we all agreed. Why postpone? | 17:35 |
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| ruhe | i'd like to ask everyone invovled in this discussion to leave your vote on blueprint's whiteboard | 17:36 |
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| ruhe | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/dynamic-ui-specify-no-explicit-name-field | 17:37 |
| ruhe | meanwhile i've moved definition status to 'discussion' | 17:37 |
| ruhe | i suggest to move on | 17:37 |
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| ruhe | #topic [smurashov] BP cli-simple-read-only-tests | 17:38 |
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| ruhe | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/cli-simple-read-only-tests | 17:38 |
| ruhe | smurashov_: are you here? | 17:38 |
| smurashov_ | yep | 17:38 |
| sjmc7 | ruhe | 17:38 |
| sjmc7 | i just did this one | 17:38 |
| sjmc7 | er... wait, ignore that. this is CI ? | 17:39 |
| sjmc7 | sorry, thought it meant unit tests, ignore me | 17:39 |
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| ruhe | ok :) | 17:39 |
| ruhe | yes, these are tempest-like tests for client CLI interface | 17:39 |
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| ruhe | they're supposed to go into murano/functionaltests/cli and run in gate-murano-devstack-dsvm job | 17:40 |
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| ruhe | this job is triggered in every patch to murano, murano-dashboard and python-muranoclient | 17:41 |
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| ruhe | this BP has a good description and work plan | 17:41 |
| sjmc7 | agreed | 17:41 |
| ruhe | does anyone have conserns or improvement suggestions about it? | 17:42 |
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| katyafervent2 | no | 17:42 |
| ruhe | ok then. i'm going to approve it for juno-3 | 17:43 |
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| ruhe | #agreed to approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/cli-simple-read-only-tests | 17:43 |
| ruhe | #topic [sjmc7] Discsus auth trusts; how much of a big deal, pitfalls? | 17:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[sjmc7] Discsus auth trusts; how much of a big deal, pitfalls? (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:43 | |
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| ruhe | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/auth-for-long-running-requests | 17:44 |
| ruhe | sjmc7: please | 17:44 |
| sjmc7 | yeah.. i know this came up for Heat | 17:44 |
| sjmc7 | so they moved to using Trusts | 17:44 |
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| sjmc7 | it's slightly more complicated for murano since really it needs deferred trusts, but i think we can make do with what is there | 17:44 |
| sjmc7 | but HP's already had problems with launching deployments with horizon tokens where the user logs out and the token becomes invalid | 17:45 |
| sjmc7 | so in my opinion we need to try to reduce that risk, but i wanted some feedback | 17:45 |
| sergmelikyan | I think we need to start doing this BP and final solution will be shaped during implementation. We can start, as sjmc7 mentioned with partial solution and improve it alongside with Trusts improvements | 17:45 |
| katyafervent2 | thats sad( | 17:45 |
| sjmc7 | i put some more details onto the etherpad in there | 17:45 |
| sjmc7 | and i'm intending to implement it soon if everyone agrees it's something needs looking at | 17:46 |
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| ruhe | i kind of agree with sergmelikyan. since no one has a clear view how this can be done, we should continue with sjmc7's plan and see how it goes (hopefully, well) | 17:47 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 17:47 |
| sergmelikyan | + for approve | 17:47 |
| sjmc7 | ok | 17:47 |
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| ruhe | sjmc7: one of my colleagues involved with keystone might help with this. i'll point him to your BP and patches once they arrive | 17:48 |
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| sjmc7 | ok | 17:48 |
| ruhe | #agreed to approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/auth-for-long-running-requests | 17:48 |
| ruhe | nex topic is... | 17:49 |
| ruhe | s/nex/next | 17:49 |
| ruhe | #topic Important bugs we need to fix | 17:49 |
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| stanlagun | lets investigate cons and pros of trusts before implementing something | 17:49 |
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| ruhe | stanlagun: that's the plan. sjmc7 will work on this and it'll be the investigation part | 17:50 |
| sjmc7 | well, i don't know of any other solution | 17:50 |
| stanlagun | even if there are no other solutions I'd like to no cons of this one in advance | 17:51 |
| stanlagun | *to know | 17:51 |
| ruhe | i guess they'll show up soone and sjmc7 will notify us about them | 17:51 |
| sergmelikyan | http://j.mp/murano-j-bugs | 17:51 |
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| sergmelikyan | I think we don't have much new bugs since last meeting | 17:51 |
| ruhe | yes, let's get back to the topic | 17:51 |
| ruhe | i'm worried about those two critical bugs. sergmelikyan, stanlagun: do you have a plan how to fix those? | 17:52 |
| sergmelikyan | ruhe, stanlagun is working on one of them, and I will start on next one soon. | 17:53 |
| sjmc7 | just briefly, what's going to be the solution for tracking this better? | 17:53 |
| sergmelikyan | sjmc7, tracking bugs?\ | 17:53 |
| * sergmelikyan also suggest to review patches that are already submitted for some of the bugs | 17:53 | |
| ruhe | sergmelikyan: stanlagun: as we agreed during last meeting - please publish your plan before you jump into the implementation | 17:53 |
| sjmc7 | no. tracking deployments (and whether they fail) | 17:53 |
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| sjmc7 | and tracking environment deletion | 17:54 |
| sergmelikyan | ruhe, unfortunately I didn't started working on this issue yet | 17:54 |
| * sergmelikyan means investigating and writing plan | 17:54 | |
| stanlagun | ruhe: there is no plan. It is already implemented. But there is a strange bug in RPC code and message doesn't get sent. So just need to fix that bug | 17:54 |
| sjmc7 | ok, no worries. i'm interested in these two | 17:55 |
| sjmc7 | so i will read what is available | 17:55 |
| ruhe | sergmelikyan: i understand you had a lot on your plate, just please notify us when you're ready | 17:55 |
| sergmelikyan | sjmc7, regarding env deletion, briefly we need to convert delete phase to real action and make it behave as deploy (simular how Heat it does). | 17:55 |
| sjmc7 | splendid, ok | 17:56 |
| ruhe | any other 'hot' bugs to discuss? | 17:56 |
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| sergmelikyan | ruhe, i would say this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1334352 | 17:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1334352 in murano "package loading makes repeat API calls" [High,Confirmed] | 17:57 |
| sjmc7 | oh, yeah | 17:57 |
| sjmc7 | that one's fun | 17:57 |
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| sergmelikyan | but I am not sure that there is something to discuss about this bug. This is just need to be done. Really incorrect work with packages | 17:58 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i agree. i had some more thoughts i can add to the bug report, but doesn't need a big discussion | 17:58 |
| ruhe | this bug might turn into a blueprint about proper package caching mechanism | 17:58 |
| sergmelikyan | sjmc7, I would appreciate that. This code is mostly written by me :'( | 17:58 |
| ruhe | ok. let's have couple of minutes for open discussion | 17:59 |
| sjmc7 | yeah - there're two parts; caching, and not making loads of requests for one package | 17:59 |
| ruhe | #topic open discussion | 17:59 |
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| ruhe | did we miss something to discuss today? | 17:59 |
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| ruhe | folks, please don't forget to comment on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/dynamic-ui-specify-no-explicit-name-field | 18:00 |
| ruhe | all right. thanks everyone. i'll be travelling next week. sergmelikyan will chair the meeting | 18:00 |
| ruhe | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-07-15-17.01.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-07-15-17.01.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-07-15-17.01.log.html | 18:01 |
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| jdob | o/ | 18:59 |
| tchaypo | \o | 18:59 |
| bnemec | o/ | 19:00 |
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| rbrady | \o/ | 19:01 |
| lifeless | \o/ | 19:01 |
| shadower | hey | 19:01 |
| lifeless | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 19:01:59 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lifeless. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:02 |
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| chuckC | o/ | 19:02 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 19:03 |
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| greghaynes | O/ | 19:03 |
| pcrews | o/ | 19:03 |
| derekh_ | hi | 19:03 |
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| tchaypo | G'mornin | 19:04 |
| jp_at_hp | evening... | 19:04 |
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| slagle | morning | 19:04 |
| lifeless | ok we seem to have a bunch of o/'s | 19:06 |
| lifeless | #topic agenda | 19:06 |
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| lifeless | bugs | 19:06 |
| lifeless | reviews | 19:06 |
| lifeless | Projects needing releases | 19:06 |
| lifeless | CD Cloud status | 19:06 |
| lifeless | CI | 19:06 |
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| lifeless | Tuskar | 19:06 |
| lifeless | Specs | 19:06 |
| lifeless | Insert one-off agenda items here | 19:06 |
| lifeless | Please start adding items to the mid-cycle agenda on the etherpad at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup | 19:06 |
| lifeless | open discussion | 19:06 |
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| lifeless | #topic bugs | 19:06 |
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| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:06 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:06 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:06 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:06 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:06 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 19:06 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 19:06 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:06 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:06 |
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| tchaypo | Couple of new ones in tripleo | 19:08 |
| lifeless | is michael kerrin around ? | 19:09 |
| lifeless | jp_at_hp: ^ | 19:09 |
| lifeless | bug 1263294 | 19:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1263294 in tripleo "ephemeral0 of /dev/sda1 triggers 'did not find entry for sda1 in /sys/block'" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263294 | 19:09 |
| lifeless | GheRivero: how are you going on bug 1316985 ? | 19:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1316985 in tripleo "set -eu may spuriously break dkms module" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316985 | 19:09 |
| lifeless | hmm, where is rpodylka these days ? bug 1317056 | 19:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317056 in tripleo "Guest VM FS corruption after compute host reboot" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317056 | 19:09 |
| lifeless | TheJulia: how is bug 1336915 progressing ? | 19:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1336915 in tripleo "We can start multiple mysql masters if mysql.nodes is undefined" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1336915 | 19:10 |
| lifeless | and dprince - you have bug 1342101 | 19:10 |
| greghaynes | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104414/3 | 19:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1342101 in tripleo "Cinder volumes fail: No section: \'Filters\' errors" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342101 | 19:10 |
| tchaypo | I thought rpodylka had planned to close that after the second-previous alternate-time meeting | 19:10 |
| greghaynes | patch for the mysql one | 19:10 |
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| jp_at_hp | lifeless, its 8pm, so I wouldn't expect him. | 19:10 |
| TheJulia | lifeless: Just needs some reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104414/ | 19:11 |
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| GheRivero | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95151/ and dependencies in really good shape and waiting for some core reviews love :) | 19:12 |
| dprince | lifeless: bug 1342101 is an easy fix, just revert the original patch... | 19:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1342101 in tripleo "Cinder volumes fail: No section: \'Filters\' errors" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342101 | 19:12 |
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| lifeless | ok so | 19:13 |
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| lifeless | #info please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104414/3 for bug bug 1336915 | 19:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1336915 in tripleo "We can start multiple mysql masters if mysql.nodes is undefined" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1336915 | 19:14 |
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| lifeless | #info please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95151/ for bug bug 1316985 | 19:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1316985 in tripleo "set -eu may spuriously break dkms module" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316985 | 19:15 |
| lifeless | #info please review https://review.openstack.org/107041 for bug 1342101 | 19:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1342101 in tripleo "Cinder volumes fail: No section: \'Filters\' errors" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342101 | 19:15 |
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| tchaypo | This is my weekly reminder that anyone can use hash-info to add items to the minutes and save lifeless needing to summarise ;) | 19:15 |
| lifeless | no other criticals | 19:16 |
| lifeless | any other bug stuff to discuss? | 19:16 |
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| derekh_ | lifeless: ci is pretty much banjaxed | 19:17 |
| lifeless | derekh_: is that a banjo with an axe through it? | 19:17 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: yup, must be | 19:17 |
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| derekh_ | lifeless: anyways should we add tripleo to bug 1341420 | 19:17 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1341420 in nova "gap between scheduler selection and claim causes spurious failures when the instance is the last one to fit" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1341420 | 19:17 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: if that is the cause ? | 19:18 |
| derekh_ | also Could our recent switch to HA controller (more instances being booted) or 2G memory be magnifing the symptoms ? | 19:19 |
| lifeless | derekh_: I don't think so | 19:19 |
| greghaynes | seems like more nodes would magnify it | 19:20 |
| lifeless | no | 19:20 |
| lifeless | or rather | 19:20 |
| * derekh_ notes that the revert ov control scale from dprince passed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106852/ | 19:20 | |
| lifeless | the same number of UC nodes is in play | 19:20 |
| lifeless | ah | 19:20 |
| greghaynes | oh, I was seeing this in overcloud | 19:20 |
| lifeless | 3 nodes to -> 5 nodes | 19:20 |
| lifeless | at 3 nodes we physically cannot trigger it | 19:21 |
| dprince | derekh_: trying to get me fired up about that! | 19:21 |
| greghaynes | aha | 19:21 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: yup, the 3 to 5 is what I was talking about | 19:21 |
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| derekh_ | I've triggered a recheck to see if it passes again | 19:21 |
| lifeless | because with 3 nodes the 3rd retry of a node will fall on the 3rd node. | 19:21 |
| greghaynes | so basically, optimistic schedulers are hard? | 19:22 |
| lifeless | actually this is a pessimistic scheduler | 19:22 |
| lifeless | it presumes grants won't actually happen | 19:22 |
| derekh_ | dprince: I usually try to avoid it :-) | 19:22 |
| greghaynes | hrm, /me tries not to derail meeting | 19:22 |
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| dprince | derekh_: well, too late, You've gone and done it | 19:23 |
| lifeless | ok so | 19:23 |
| lifeless | we need a plan here | 19:24 |
| lifeless | options | 19:24 |
| lifeless | - revert to 1 ctl 2 hypervisor | 19:24 |
| lifeless | - put a workaround e.g. the sleep in Ic9f625398b30bcdf81fb2796de0235713f4d4aa6 in toci | 19:24 |
| tchaypo | lifeless: I thought we'd established that that sleep wasn't sufficient? | 19:25 |
| dprince | lifeless: I'd like to revert. I think we are premature in our chase for HA. | 19:25 |
| SpamapS | Long term I think we should consider a reservation concept. | 19:25 |
| * dprince notes that he can't even reboot an undercloud node successfully anymore | 19:25 | |
| * SpamapS drives by and then runs out again because of issues IRL | 19:26 | |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: lock the resouces in the scheduler? | 19:26 |
| dprince | not saying HA isn't important, but it falls well behind the simple case | 19:26 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: something like that. | 19:26 |
| greghaynes | yes, +1 - that is a lot easier type of scheduler to get correct IMO | 19:27 |
| lifeless | dprince: mmm, I very much disagree about the relative importance there, but reverting this wouldn't be about HA, it would be able velicity. | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: basically have actual consumable flavor-sized things that the scheduler can consume as a queue, rather than spraying hope everywhere. | 19:27 |
| lifeless | erm velocity | 19:27 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: so the scheduler was like that; can I suggest folk wanting to design a fix head to #openstack-nova | 19:27 |
| lifeless | since we can rabbit hole here super easily | 19:27 |
| * SpamapS happily goes away | 19:28 | |
| lifeless | are there any other right-now options to unwedge CI ? | 19:28 |
| dprince | lifeless: HA is causing us too much churn at this point. We can't even deploy our CI overclouds without hacks yet! | 19:28 |
| derekh_ | So right now if the revert fixes it, I'm for that (unless there is a nova fix pretty much ready), once where happy its good to go again I'm happy to trun back on 3 x controllers | 19:28 |
| dprince | lifeless: much less run HA in them! | 19:28 |
| greghaynes | Seems like no other option :( | 19:29 |
| lifeless | dprince: I'm interested in what churn you're seeing, but since HA is the current project focus on the path to removing the seed and really being fully deployed... lets talk out of the meeting timeline about that | 19:30 |
| tchaypo | lifeless: nice eccint | 19:30 |
| lifeless | so seems like we need to revert | 19:30 |
| lifeless | I'd like to suggest that we then put the 3 node HA patch back up again with an included hacky patch, and see if we can get some good runs with such a thing | 19:30 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: the recheck is still running, want to wait for a result to be sure it will help? probably an hour | 19:31 |
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| lifeless | derekh_: I'm absolutely sure it will, but yes. Also I want dprince to reword it because the revert is IMO strictly about CI being broken. | 19:31 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: k | 19:32 |
| lifeless | dprince: are you ok with that? | 19:32 |
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| dprince | lifeless: I'm happy to *add* a word or too. But not cool with changing what I've already written | 19:33 |
| derekh_ | I think when we're adding HA back in as default we gotta say something like X number of successfull CI runs in a row or something, not keep rechecking until it passes | 19:33 |
| derekh_ | not saying thats what happened, I havn't looked | 19:33 |
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| lifeless | derekh_: I don't believe thats what happened, I think actually it may be we turned it on and then whatever made this happen so much more landed. | 19:33 |
| lifeless | derekh_: we weren't seeing this in Helion builds last month, for instance - something has made it massively more common very recently. | 19:34 |
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| derekh_ | lifeless: k | 19:34 |
| lifeless | derekh_: perhaps heat efficiencies, perhaps oslo.messaging, I dunno | 19:34 |
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| lifeless | dprince: so your revert patch has a bunch of editorial about resources and defaults that are IMO entirely incorrect in this context. | 19:35 |
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| lifeless | dprince: and the vibe I've got from the development community is out of sync with what you say | 19:35 |
| dprince | lifeless: unless of course we rename devtest to something else. My revert is really about devtest being for developers, which with the new defaults can't actually run it anymore! | 19:35 |
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| lifeless | dprince: 6 2GB VMs fits in a 16GB machine, and we've been saying 16GB machines for a long time | 19:36 |
| dprince | lifeless: put it to the test, with the new defaults lets see who can actuall run the entire devtest: seed -> undercloud -> overcloud | 19:36 |
| tchaypo | lifeless: not if you have firefox open as well | 19:36 |
| dprince | lifeless: I don't have a 16G laptop | 19:36 |
| greghaynes | Seems like youre forcing either no revert to go through or a second revert to be made? I dont think we should assume we got consensus on that revert simply because we need to get CI passing again | 19:36 |
| lifeless | I can put up a revert that only talks about CI, but I do think getting some consensus around this is important | 19:37 |
| dprince | lifeless: I can run parts of devtest, sure. I know how to do that. But I think this is super unfriendly to the community. A barrier even | 19:37 |
| lifeless | I thought we had that from atlanta | 19:37 |
| tchaypo | I do have a 16Gb laptop, but with a browser and desktop environment open I only have about 10Gb useable for VMs | 19:37 |
| dprince | lifeless: If your revert is the same as mine you are just being silly | 19:37 |
| * dprince may -2 it | 19:37 | |
| lifeless | dprince: indeed, we'd be into silly territory | 19:38 |
| slagle | i don't see any concensus in the summit etherpad | 19:38 |
| slagle | is there some other record? | 19:38 |
| tchaypo | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-summit-tripleo-environment is the etherpad you're looking at? | 19:38 |
| slagle | the only "concensus" i recall about this topic, was that there was disagreement | 19:39 |
| derekh_ | how about we revert with the comment that we need to revisit default and then try to reach minimum requirments consensus on mailing list ? | 19:39 |
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| derekh_ | or and the sprint | 19:39 |
| derekh_ | *at | 19:39 |
| dprince | lifeless: there was no concensus | 19:39 |
| tchaypo | my memory is that there was consensus that we needed to pursue several options to try to find something that worked | 19:40 |
| slagle | tchaypo: i was actually looking at the CI one. but yea, that one too | 19:40 |
| tchaypo | hence the tripleo-on-openstack work | 19:40 |
| bnemec | Yeah, I don't know that we ever picked a number, although most people in the room were running on 16 GB boxes. | 19:40 |
| tchaypo | I think --no-undercloud might predate that session but I remember it being suggested as one way to decrease the requirements, and I've been using it pretty much ever since then | 19:40 |
| slagle | right, and 16gb is not sufficient for a default devtest | 19:40 |
| bnemec | And the agreement seemed to be that we wanted to support multiple deployment configurations to accomodate people with less hardware. | 19:40 |
| lifeless | --no-undercloud predates it | 19:40 |
| tchaypo | if I don't use --no-undercloud on my laptop I can't build the full stack | 19:41 |
| tchaypo | and it's a 16Gb laptop | 19:41 |
| lifeless | so right, I remember the vibe being supporting scaled down configs | 19:41 |
| lifeless | which I'm totally in support of | 19:41 |
| tchaypo | I've given up using it though, I pretty much only use my 32Gb machine in hetzner these days | 19:41 |
| lifeless | but this is about defaults - and look, its a good thing we're seeing this in CI, it means its *working*. | 19:41 |
| lifeless | we're seeing actual things that matter | 19:41 |
| tchaypo | I think dprince's point is that he feels the defaults should be aimed at developers testing their own setups; if CI needs different options we should add them in toci | 19:42 |
| derekh_ | ./devtest.sh --minimal|--full (user must select one) | 19:42 |
| slagle | i guess i'm just used to always overriding *something* | 19:42 |
| slagle | hence why i only +1'd the revert | 19:43 |
| bnemec | slagle: +1 :-) | 19:43 |
| slagle | we can't make everyone happy | 19:43 |
| slagle | and in doing so, we make no one happy | 19:43 |
| lifeless | The reason I'm pushing on having the default be scaled up enough to trigger all these things is so that we trigger these things where possible in front of devs | 19:43 |
| lifeless | not in CI where analysis is substantially harder | 19:43 |
| lifeless | s/not in CI/not JUST in CI/ | 19:43 |
| tchaypo | +1 slagle | 19:43 |
| tchaypo | I'm preparing a talk for pycon-au to introduce devs to tripleo | 19:43 |
| tchaypo | one line near the end that's very firmly in the talk is to tell them that tripleo isn't going to work for them | 19:44 |
| Ng | we know whether to use a single machine targetted config OOTB, because we'll have been told to use VMs not real hardware | 19:44 |
| tchaypo | it's designed to be production ready, but it's not designed for *their* production in particular | 19:44 |
| greghaynes | It seems pretty silly that as a developer with sufficient resources I need to override settings to dest what we would consider our ideal deployment... | 19:44 |
| lifeless | so dprince I'm fine with a commit that says we dont' have consensus on the default - we clearly don't, but we also don't have consensus on the status quo being better ;) | 19:44 |
| slagle | tbh, i think the devtest workflow should be, source devtest_varialbes, write-tripleorc, tweak tripleorc, etc | 19:44 |
| tchaypo | I'm going to be saying that they're going to need to look at where it breaks for them and start fiddling. To me this sounds like one of the ways they might expect it to break for them | 19:45 |
| dprince | lifeless: So my current commit says just that: "We spoke about this in Atlanta and there was not concensus" | 19:45 |
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| lifeless | dprince: ... about setting it to 3 - that implies there is consensus on the status quo, at least how I read it :) | 19:46 |
| lifeless | dprince: I'm saying we don't seem to have any consensus at all | 19:46 |
| bnemec | This sounds like something we _really_ need to discuss next week. | 19:46 |
| lifeless | dprince: we've got folk expecting to have to change something, we've got folk expecting it to not work | 19:46 |
| * greghaynes added this to meetup agenda | 19:46 | |
| lifeless | greghaynes: thanks | 19:46 |
| tchaypo | slagle: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Notes_for_new_developers slightly reverses that - aims to get ~/.devtestrc seeded with settings before the first run :) | 19:46 |
| dprince | lifeless: okay. I'll remove the clarification and leave it at that | 19:47 |
| tchaypo | Who is most local to raleigh? | 19:47 |
| tchaypo | can we ask them to supply popcorn? | 19:47 |
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| lifeless | dprince: thank you, I've removed my -2 already | 19:47 |
| jdob | tchaypo: there are similar snacking foods in the cafeteria that will suffice for that :) | 19:47 |
| lifeless | hah, so next week is going to be fun. | 19:48 |
| slagle | tchaypo: yea, my thing with that though is that i don't remember *what* to override, hence why i like the write-tripleorc that spits it all out for me nice and clean | 19:48 |
| * bnemec resists the urge to go off on a popcorn tangent | 19:48 | |
| lifeless | greghaynes: I think you need to add an experimental job with scale set to three. I have a few infra patches pending so I'll put one up | 19:48 |
| ccrouch | we'll make sure to setup metal detectors at all the meeting room doors | 19:48 |
| slagle | while in reality, just copy the same tripleorc around | 19:48 |
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| jp_at_hp | lifeless, if there are 2 configs, does CI have the resources to test both? | 19:48 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: actually, I mean non-voting not experimental | 19:49 |
| lifeless | jp_at_hp: no, but I think we have to. | 19:49 |
| greghaynes | lifeless: sounds good | 19:49 |
| lifeless | jp_at_hp: once I have SSL working again I think we'll have hp1 back up | 19:49 |
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| tchaypo | slagle: i like your thinking. | 19:49 |
| lifeless | which will bring online 12 96G hypervisors and 24 testenvs | 19:49 |
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| lifeless | derekh_: dprince: ^ thats about the right ratio, right ? | 19:50 |
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| lifeless | ok, lets move on since we have a plan | 19:50 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: the hp1 servers will have 8 TE per TE host | 19:50 |
| lifeless | #info CI breakage fix: revert the HA default patch, setup nonvoting job to track HA status while bug 1341420 is worked on | 19:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1341420 in nova "gap between scheduler selection and claim causes spurious failures when the instance is the last one to fit" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1341420 | 19:51 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: could bring TE hosts down a little and bump compute nodes | 19:51 |
| lifeless | hp2 is ready to be deployed as well, it has 20 hosts at the moment | 19:51 |
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| lifeless | and hopefully 80 more in a few weeks | 19:52 |
| derekh_ | sweet | 19:52 |
| lifeless | folk wanting to fix this PLEASE talk to me about specific things you can do | 19:52 |
| lifeless | #topic reviews | 19:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:52 | |
| lifeless | #info There's a new dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard" | 19:52 |
| lifeless | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:52 |
| lifeless | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 19:52 |
| lifeless | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 19:52 |
| lifeless | we're running very late | 19:52 |
| lifeless | so SpamapS did a meta review of a couple HP folk and there were no -1s and plenty of +1s on the list | 19:53 |
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| lifeless | I'll add them to -core later today unless anyone here objects? | 19:53 |
| lifeless | 19:53 | |
| lifeless | Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 : | 19:53 |
| lifeless | Average wait time: 10 days, 17 hours, 49 minutes | 19:53 |
| lifeless | 1st quartile wait time: 4 days, 7 hours, 57 minutes | 19:53 |
| lifeless | Median wait time: 7 days, 10 hours, 52 minutes | 19:53 |
| lifeless | 3rd quartile wait time: 13 days, 13 hours, 25 minutes | 19:53 |
| lifeless | we're basically in a holding pattern on 3rd quartile here. Lets talk more next week. | 19:53 |
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| lifeless | #topic projects needing releases | 19:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "projects needing releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:54 | |
| lifeless | do we have a volunteer? | 19:54 |
| jdob | I volunteer as tribute! | 19:54 |
| lifeless | thanks | 19:54 |
| lifeless | #topic CD cloud status | 19:54 |
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| lifeless | rh1 is fine AFAIK - I don't think we've deployed the new machines yet though. | 19:54 |
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| derekh_ | lifeless: rh1 cloud is having trouble, there seems to be a lot of instances getting double IP addresses, and also failing to be deleted. | 19:54 |
| derekh_ | I've been keeping it ticking over by calling nova reset-state on insatances that nodepool can't delete | 19:54 |
| lifeless | ugh | 19:54 |
| derekh_ | this wasn't happening in the past (nothings changed), so this may be getting progressively worse | 19:55 |
| lifeless | ok, we probably need to turn on debug logging and get a trace to file a bug | 19:55 |
| derekh_ | anyways, that all I have on it, so move on and we can discuss out of meeting | 19:55 |
| lifeless | hp1 has 2 bad machines but otherwise fine pending deployment | 19:55 |
| dprince | derekh_: yes, lets do. Is there a bug filed on this? | 19:55 |
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| lifeless | hp2 we haven't burnt in the machines yet,we're expecting it to be heterogeneous hardware, which will mean dev needed to use them. | 19:56 |
| lifeless | #topic CI | 19:56 |
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| derekh_ | dprince: nope, I havn't managed to find anythin relevant in the logs, will turn on dubuging later | 19:56 |
| tchaypo | lifeless: holding pattern on third quartile but average and median are blowing out | 19:56 |
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| tchaypo | anyone who hasn't updated https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup to confirm they're going to the dinner should do that *NOW* | 19:56 |
| lifeless | #info discussed earlier: nova bug 1341420 is killing us | 19:56 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1341420 in nova "gap between scheduler selection and claim causes spurious failures when the instance is the last one to fit" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1341420 | 19:56 |
| lifeless | #info please help with that! | 19:56 |
| lifeless | #topic tuskar | 19:56 |
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| lifeless | any tuskar business ? | 19:57 |
| lifeless | #topic specs | 19:57 |
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| lifeless | I propose we talk next week, lets try to get as much review consensus on them this week as we can | 19:57 |
| lifeless | also I really want to see the approved specs actioned :) | 19:57 |
| lifeless | #topic other business | 19:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "other business (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:57 | |
| tchaypo | #info anyone who hasn't updated https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup to confirm they're going to the dinner should do that *NOW* | 19:58 |
| lifeless | Jaromir asks that we put some effort into the agenda on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup and also there is a dinner thing there that you need to put your name on. | 19:58 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: dude | 19:58 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: like 10 seconds patience | 19:58 |
| lifeless | #topic open discussion | 19:58 |
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| tchaypo | sorry. suddenly realised I forgot to #tag it earlier | 19:59 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: it was more that you put it in the CI section | 19:59 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: which is a fairly big non-sequitor | 19:59 |
| tchaypo | yeah, I got confused about which section we were at :( | 19:59 |
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| greghaynes | CI - continuous ingestion | 20:00 |
| lifeless | mmm breakfast time | 20:00 |
| lifeless | streaky bacon | 20:00 |
| lifeless | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 20:00:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-07-15-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-07-15-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| lifeless | thanks everyone | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-07-15-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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| dprince | lifeless: thanks | 20:00 |
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| erw | #startmeeting containers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 22:00:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is erw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:00 |
| apmelton | o/ | 22:00 |
| thomasem | o/ | 22:00 |
| erw | Roll call | 22:00 |
| thomasem | Thomas Maddox | 22:00 |
| apmelton | Andrew Melton | 22:00 |
| erw | Eric Windisch | 22:01 |
| erw | that’s it? | 22:01 |
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| erw | alright. | 22:01 |
| iqbalmohomed | Hello everyone | 22:01 |
| erw | hello | 22:01 |
| erw | #topic Announcements | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: containers)" | 22:02 | |
| s1rp_ | o/ | 22:02 |
| s1rp_ | Rick Harris | 22:02 |
| erw | anyone that shows up is welcome to announce themselves at any point. | 22:02 |
| iqbalmohomed | Iqbal Mohomed, IBM Research | 22:02 |
| erw | Announcing the mid-cycle meetup for July 28th-21st | 22:02 |
| erw | *31st | 22:02 |
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| erw | Beaverton, Oregon (outside of Portland). Intel campus. | 22:03 |
| erw | co-located with the Nova meetup, but note that we have one extra day. | 22:03 |
| erw | don’t make a mistake and only book for the 30th… we’re staying until the 31st. :) | 22:03 |
| erw | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/040095.html | 22:03 |
| erw | any questions / issues/ concerns with the mid-cycle? | 22:04 |
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| erw | okay then… if anyone has issues or concerns, bring it up in open discussion. | 22:04 |
| erw | any other announcements? | 22:04 |
| thomasem | What's the schedule looking like for the 31st? I have a flight out at 6PM that day. | 22:05 |
| Guest80176 | Maxim Nestratov, Parallels | 22:05 |
| erw | thomasem: I believe we have a breakout room all week, so tbd. | 22:05 |
| thomasem | Okay, cool. | 22:05 |
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| thomasem | If that's the case, then awesome | 22:06 |
| thomasem | =] | 22:06 |
| erw | thomasem: from the Icehouse mid-cycle, however, I’d say that we tend to get out by 5pm. | 22:06 |
| thomasem | Ah | 22:06 |
| thomasem | Wells, I'll have to keep that in mind. Might just have to bugger off a bit early. | 22:07 |
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| erw | sorry. I’m sure we’ll all have a better idea for the next meetup, after we do this one. | 22:07 |
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| erw | last call for announcements | 22:07 |
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| erw | #topic Review Action Items | 22:07 |
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| thomasem | Okey dokey | 22:07 |
| erw | "Eric Windisch to check with Mikal for guidance on the best approach for submitting specification drafts for community discussion" | 22:07 |
| erw | I spoke to Mikal, and he deferred to the mailing list and the mid-cycle meetup. | 22:08 |
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| erw | the mid-cycle is where Nova has, in general, decided to make this determination - as to where/when to take K specs | 22:09 |
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| erw | John Garbutt actually sent out an email just today about a similar topic. He wants to start discussing and locking down how K will handle specs. | 22:09 |
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| erw | Mikal suggests we sound-off in response to that thread | 22:09 |
| erw | no other action items, and this segways to Status on Proposal Process | 22:10 |
| funzo | o/ - late | 22:10 |
| erw | (btw, our agenda is: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers) | 22:10 |
| erw | #topic Status on Proposal Process | 22:10 |
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| erw | has anyone made progress on proposals? | 22:10 |
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| erw | last meeting, we were discussing the creation of an etherpad and individual efforts to create these specs | 22:11 |
| erw | I volunteered to work on a spec, but I have not yet had the cycles to do it. | 22:12 |
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| erw | adrian_otto had also suggested he would work on a spec, but he is on PTO | 22:12 |
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| erw | if nobody else… then I will propose we link an etherpad for further collaboration offline | 22:13 |
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| erw | beuller? | 22:13 |
| apmelton | +1 on the etherpad, it would allow people to contribute when they're free | 22:13 |
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| thomasem | +1 from me also | 22:13 |
| apmelton | instead of at these specific times | 22:13 |
| dguryanov | +1 | 22:13 |
| Guest80176 | +1 | 22:14 |
| thomasem | Yep, it'll let us utilize our more productive cycles | 22:14 |
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| dguryanov | Let's create it right now, so all people here will have a link | 22:14 |
| funzo | sure, makes sense | 22:14 |
| erw | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/containers-service-k-spec-discuss | 22:14 |
| dguryanov | Thanks | 22:14 |
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| thomasem | perfect | 22:14 |
| erw | lets have a moment to fill in some basics there | 22:14 |
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| erw | okay- done. | 22:17 |
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| erw | attendees: if you think someone might want to contribute to this spec process, please bring it to their attention and have them contact either Adrian Cole or myself. | 22:17 |
| thomasem | Sounds good to me. | 22:18 |
| erw | anything else? | 22:18 |
| erw | #topic Open Discussion | 22:18 |
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| erw | so I’d like to also suggest we put together and etherpad of topics we’d like to discuss at the mid-cycle | 22:19 |
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| erw | I think the spec discussion will be a big part of that, but we can work on listing any other concerns, questions, etc that we might have as a group. | 22:19 |
| thomasem | I added one regarding libvirt-lxc tempest test support to the main mid-cycle one... would that fit in both? | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | sorry to drop in late. I just have a moment to share one idea | 22:20 |
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| funzo | erw: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/containers-service-juno-midcycle-topics | 22:20 |
| erw | thomasem: it’s almost a good point that we might simply extend that one | 22:20 |
| erw | (that is, if that was your point: it would be a good one) | 22:20 |
| erw | adrian_otto: please. | 22:21 |
| thomasem | Okay, yeah. I'll reference it. | 22:21 |
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| erw | should we decide/vote on our own etherpad, or sharing in NOva’s? | 22:21 |
| thomasem | Oh, I think I see what you mean | 22:21 |
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| thomasem | lol | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | I had suggested that we meet on 7/31 after the Nova Meetup concludes. After discussing with Mikal, I think maybe we should not | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | we will get a dedicated breakout room for 7-28 - 7/30 | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | but apparently Nova devs get grouchy after 3 days. | 22:22 |
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| erw | adrian_otto: you might have just scored me a free day in Portland | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | Might be counter-productive to try to meet too long | 22:22 |
| thomasem | I don't think the main mid-cycle etherpad is too crowded to include our stuff, tbh: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-nova-mid-cycle-meetup | 22:22 |
| thomasem | And it'll get more visibility | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | plus, I have a conflict that will prevent me from staying on the 31st. | 22:23 |
| erw | thomasem: that’s virtually empty, but if it grows as it did last mid-cycle, I’d concur. | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | so I'll be there to help out the first 3 days. | 22:23 |
| erw | lets link our etherpad from the main one | 22:23 |
| thomasem | I see | 22:23 |
| thomasem | okay | 22:23 |
| erw | done | 22:24 |
| thomasem | cool | 22:24 |
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| erw | adrian_otto: if we won’t do the 31st, could you send out an update to the ML? | 22:25 |
| apmelton | I've got a question, how's parking/getting into the building going to work at the mid-cycle? have any of those details gone out | 22:25 |
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| adrian_otto | I know that, apmelton | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | the intel campus has lots of parking | 22:25 |
| erw | apmelton: some of the detailed logistics were discussed during the Nova meetings, but I don’t think much of it has trickled out of there. | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | you just drive up, there is no perimeter gate | 22:25 |
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| apmelton | adrian_otto: sounds good | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | the event leads met by conference yesterday to address a list of concerns | 22:26 |
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| adrian_otto | there will be internet wifi for guests, lunch provided, coffee breaks. | 22:27 |
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| adrian_otto | three rooms, with a 4th that will be added for the Ironic+Nova joint discussions | 22:27 |
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| adrian_otto | so one room for Nova, another for Ironic, one for Nova+Ironic, and one for Containers | 22:27 |
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| adrian_otto | you check in in the lobby with the security desk, and there MAY be an Intel escort to bring you a short walk to the meeting room. | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | no red flags came up. | 22:28 |
| apmelton | cool | 22:29 |
| thomasem | Sounds good | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | ok, sorry to swoop and run, but time for me to go | 22:29 |
| erw | adrian_otto: thanks. will you send that email? | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | thanks for chairing erw! | 22:29 |
| erw | np | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | erw: yes, at my first opportunity, probably tomorrow | 22:30 |
| erw | thanks | 22:30 |
| erw | #action adrian_otto to send email amending dates of mid-cycle | 22:30 |
| apmelton | take care adrian_otto | 22:30 |
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| erw | finally, just some update from the Docker side... | 22:30 |
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| erw | Ian Main and Chris Alfonso updated and tested the glance patch, so we can eliminate the docker-registry piece. | 22:31 |
| erw | no other important news, otherwise. | 22:31 |
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| erw | anyone have anything else? | 22:31 |
| apmelton | on the libvirt-lxc side of things, s1rp and I still have a few patches, but slow progress is being made on getting them merged | 22:31 |
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| apmelton | it seems like always, theres a burst of review activity then nothing | 22:32 |
| apmelton | or the gate just isn't working :-/ | 22:32 |
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| thomasem | Trying to find the links | 22:33 |
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| thomasem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106405/ | 22:33 |
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| thomasem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102324/6 | 22:34 |
| thomasem | apmelton: You have that userns one handy? | 22:34 |
| apmelton | thomasem: there's a bunch, we probably shouldn't link them all :) | 22:34 |
| thomasem | oh okay | 22:34 |
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| erw | if you guys do need reviews, though, it’s okay to link them. Maybe not all of them | 22:35 |
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| thomasem | Or slap them on the etherpad | 22:35 |
| erw | but I think it’s okay to link particaruly blocking issues that need eyes | 22:35 |
| apmelton | what I really need reviews on is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98888/ | 22:35 |
| erw | *particularly | 22:36 |
| apmelton | it's the very base of the userns patch | 22:36 |
| s1rp_ | those two have been sititing a while so good to highlight | 22:36 |
| apmelton | and I haven't heard anything from the reviewer who -1'd it | 22:36 |
| apmelton | so I kinda need more opinions | 22:36 |
| erw | apmelton: and I’m actually +2 on requirements, so I’ll take a look at that | 22:36 |
| apmelton | thanks erw! | 22:37 |
| erw | apmelton: yeah but Sean isn’t someone I’d want to cross. ;) | 22:37 |
| erw | anyway... | 22:37 |
| erw | anything else ? :) | 22:37 |
| erw | if not, we’ll call it a wrap. | 22:37 |
| erw | conversation can continue in #openstack-containers if desired | 22:38 |
| erw | #endmeeting | 22:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 22:38:14 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-07-15-22.00.html | 22:38 |
| erw | Thanks everyone :) | 22:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-07-15-22.00.txt | 22:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-07-15-22.00.log.html | 22:38 |
| apmelton | take care everyone! | 22:38 |
| thomasem | Have a great one! | 22:38 |
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| s1rp_ | later everyone! | 22:39 |
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