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| baoli | #startmeeting PCI Passthrough | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 5 13:00:47 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:00 |
| baoli | Hi there | 13:00 |
| rpothier | hi | 13:01 |
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| b3nt_pin | \o | 13:02 |
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| sadasu | hello | 13:03 |
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| baoli | For current status, we are looking pretty good with the first three patches. Another +2, we can get two of them cleared. | 13:05 |
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| baoli | Anything you guys want to talk about today? | 13:07 |
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| sadasu | cool | 13:08 |
| sadasu | I was debugging testbed issues for a couple of days...now I am over the hump | 13:09 |
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| sadasu | I had pep8 errors because I was using constants defined in the Ucs SDK that are not visible to tox | 13:09 |
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| sadasu | fixed them too by creating a seperate file re-defines these constants in neutron | 13:10 |
| baoli | sadasu, that sounds great | 13:10 |
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| sadasu | baoli: do you need this fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82206/ to complete your changes? | 13:11 |
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| baoli | sadasu, not really. That's mainly for restarting compute service. So it can be tackled separately | 13:12 |
| sadasu | ok...thanks | 13:12 |
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| baoli | sadasu, are you inheriting from Irenab's class? | 13:12 |
| sadasu | as far as I remember, irenab won't be attending today's meeting | 13:12 |
| baoli | sadasu, that's right. | 13:12 |
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| sadasu | yongli also will not be attending | 13:13 |
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| baoli | sadasu, but my question is about your MD's parent class. | 13:14 |
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| sadasu | baoli: yes..I know...do you want to discuss this today? | 13:16 |
| baoli | sadasu, we don't have to discuss it today. I actually just want to know what your plan is. | 13:16 |
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| sadasu | my current plan is not to inherit from the sr-iov-nic-switch class | 13:17 |
| baoli | sadasu, that should be fine | 13:17 |
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| sadasu | this class can be modified as part of a bugfix after Juno 3 and when that is merged, I can inherit from this via another bug fix | 13:18 |
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| sadasu | does that sound ok? | 13:18 |
| baoli | sadasu, yes. | 13:18 |
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| sadasu | we still have to figure out some details regarding the sr-iov base class | 13:19 |
| baoli | sadasu, let's discuss that later. | 13:20 |
| sadasu | I thought in the previous meeting, there was a discussion about the base class keeping track of all the sr-iov drivers in the cloud | 13:20 |
| sadasu | not sure if that is solidified yet | 13:20 |
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| sadasu | baoli: ok | 13:20 |
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| baoli | unless we have anything else to talk about, we can get back to work. | 13:20 |
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| baoli | see you guys next week | 13:21 |
| baoli | #endmeeting | 13:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:22 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 5 13:21:59 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-08-05-13.00.html | 13:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-08-05-13.00.txt | 13:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-08-05-13.00.log.html | 13:22 |
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| sadasu | thanks!! | 13:22 |
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| erw | hello | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#startmeeting containers | 16:03 |
| s1rp | o/ | 16:03 |
| erw | o/ | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 5 16:03:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:04 |
| erw | o/ | 16:04 |
| funzo | o/ | 16:04 |
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| s1rp | o/ | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers Agenda | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:04 |
| erw | Eric Windisch | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | hi funzo, erw, and s1rp | 16:04 |
| funzo | hi! | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | first, we had the Midcycle meetup last week. | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | I set an intent to email the dev list summarizing our activity there | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | but have not been back in the office since I left Oregon, so I have not completed this yet | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | so what we will do today is give a quick high level summary, and follow that up with additional detail on the ML | 16:06 |
| funzo | excellent | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so the good news is that we have an outline for a proposal for adding containers support to OpenStack that the Nova team is happy with | 16:07 |
| erw | there is bad news? | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | the virt drivers for containers stay on the same track they are on | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | no, this is not paired with bad news ;-) | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | so we still continue with efforts related to nova-docker and libvirt/lxc | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | we use Nova for producing an instance | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | which can be of any virt type that nova has drivers for | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | so it can be a bare metal instance, a VM, a container, etc. | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | within that instance we place an agent | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | it uses a relay to connect to the control plane where it can be controlled by the (drumroll please) | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | containers service | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | which has a containers centric API for handling OS level things, including shell ENV vars, exit status, stdio, etc. | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | we are producing spec documents that detail the API, and the system architecture | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | you should expect to see drafts of those for review next week. | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | comments or questions so far? | 16:11 |
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| funzo | adrian_otto: will the conatiner service load the nova-docker plugin, and provide extensions to it? | 16:12 |
| s1rp | the nova guys like the agent because it fits in with a long-term goal of having an 'openstack-agent' in instances | 16:12 |
| funzo | or is this all net new for docker container management | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | funzo: excellent question, no. | 16:12 |
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| adrian_otto | the virt drivers in Nova are only intended to provide the level of features that the current Nova drivers do, not more. | 16:13 |
| thomasem | o/ | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | the container specific features will go into the containers service, and the host agent. | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | we will make an effort to reuse existing art to implement early versions of those | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | so things like docker, libswarm, libct, etc will be under consideration as building blocks. | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | but this plan should not require extensions to Nova | 16:14 |
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| adrian_otto | s1rp: +1 | 16:14 |
| funzo | adrian_otto: what do you think the timeframe will play out as for getting a container service incubated? | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | funzo: another great question... | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | we did discuss this with the Nova team | 16:15 |
| funzo | adrian_otto: i know the timeing thing is always hard to guestimate | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | while we are building it, we will run it as a stackforge project, and then propose it as a new project under the existing Compute program | 16:15 |
| funzo | adrian_otto: I'm assuming when the container service is up to snuff, we'll depricate the nova-docker driver | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | so it can have its own core reviewer team | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | funzo: actually no, that's a funny detail | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | this plan assumes nested containers | 16:16 |
| erw | funzo: to clarify on your earlier question… this does not eliminate the need for nova-docker | 16:16 |
| funzo | ah ok | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | and that we will get features into Linux to allow unprivileged nesting | 16:16 |
| iqbalmohomed | Is there a link to the plan? | 16:16 |
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| iqbalmohomed | Sorry .. Joined a bit late | 16:17 |
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| Slower | o/ | 16:17 |
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| iqbalmohomed | That would be great. | 16:18 |
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| Slower | sounds good to me | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | ok, be back in a moment. | 16:18 |
| mtesauro | +1 | 16:18 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/5/51/Containers_Proposal.pdf Containers in OpenStack Draft Proposal | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, the document above is the one we presented to the Nova team, and that we were able to build healthy consensus around | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | some key takeaways from that dicsussion... | 16:21 |
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| iqbalmohomed | So .. If the top level thing is a docker host, create via nova-docker, it doesn't get the benefits of the container service? | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | strang agreement to avoid writing a duplicate scheduler in the Containers service, and just offering extremely basic provisioning capability. When Gantt exists as a standalone resource, we can leverage that for advanced scheduling capability. | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | iqbalmohomed: only if you nest another container inside of it | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | so if you just create the noda-docker instance, it will be about as useful as a Nova KVM intance | 16:23 |
| thomasem | iqbalmohomed: It'd be a docker image with the agent on it, then you could. | 16:23 |
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| adrian_otto | but if you use the Containers service to produce it, then it can nest another container inside and get a full containers feature set | 16:23 |
| thomasem | If the agent doesn't exist on the docker image, then the container service API wouldn't be able to communicate with the instance. | 16:23 |
| iqbalmohomed | Yup .. Makes sense. What about networking for the inner containers? | 16:23 |
| iqbalmohomed | Can one assign them IP address as via neutron? | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | iqbalmohomed: the plan is to iterate toward a solution that will use Neutron | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | and wire up neutron ports. The outer instance is the one you assign interfaces to. | 16:24 |
| erw | iqbalmohomed: initially, the outer-container will support Neutron and management of the inner-containers will allow mapping into the neutron ports | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | and those can be mapped to the inner ones | 16:24 |
| erw | ultimately, it makes sense to be able to provide facilities to directly map neutron ports to the inner containers. | 16:25 |
| rcleere | What about auth to the service running inside the container? Who/What would be able to communicate with it? | 16:25 |
| thomasem | That the outer instance operates not unlike a regular box with Docker or LXC on it as it works now. | 16:25 |
| erw | rcleere: the nova key_pair can be used to provide PKI auth | 16:25 |
| thomasem | that way* | 16:25 |
| iqbalmohomed | Cool .. As I understand it, the first iteration of the container, there are no major breaks with the way nova-docker currently works? | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | iqbalmohomed: yes, exactly | 16:26 |
| erw | rcleere: but we might use keystone+tokens or something as well or instead. | 16:26 |
| thomasem | Shouldn't be... as long as it supports the basic start/stop stuff | 16:26 |
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| iqbalmohomed | ..if one doesn't happen to use container images with the agent | 16:26 |
| erw | iqbalmohomed: no breaks… and I think that’s a long-term goal, not just a short-term one. | 16:27 |
| iqbalmohomed | You just would not get any of the benefits either :) | 16:27 |
| iqbalmohomed | That is good news | 16:27 |
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| erw | iqbalmohomed: with the containers service available you could still use nova-docker for “dumb” containers | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so any more questions on this we can revisit in Open Discussion | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | I plan to email our ML on Monday with a summary, and kick off in-depth discussion then | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | that will give our time this week to write the specs up, and have discussion at our level | 16:29 |
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| adrian_otto | then we can pull in guidance from our wider community | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Status on Proposal Process | 16:29 |
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| adrian_otto | in progress, I will keep this on the agenda while we continue the spec creation process. | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Discuss how to set resource limits (ulimits) on containers | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | who proposed this agenda topic? | 16:30 |
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| rcleere | me | 16:30 |
| thomasem | Just in time, sew | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | rcleere: good, you have the floor | 16:30 |
| rcleere | Containers inherit the base OS ulmits which are set pretty low. Containers probably should have a way to specify the limit of the container maybe with regard to the flavor size. | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | flavors are a good place to put a set of defaults, for sure. | 16:32 |
| rcleere | The specific ulimit we are dealing with is the open file descriptor limit, but other limits may need to be adjusted too. | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | we might want to allow the Containers Service API to supply alternate values for those parameters, if the cloud operator allows that | 16:32 |
| rcleere | I have more of a techincal problem right now as to how to set them at container creation. | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | do tools like docker allow for those to be set using parameters, or is inheriting the only mechanism to set them? | 16:33 |
| erw | adrian_otto: but it’s an issue for nova regardless, for the outer-container provisioning | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | erw: good point | 16:33 |
| rcleere | I have a hack to create a wrapper script for libvirt_lxc that sets them higher or i have a patch to libvirt to supply it via XML and set it at container creation | 16:33 |
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| adrian_otto | rcleere: makes sense | 16:34 |
| erw | relevant docker bug: https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/4717 | 16:34 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/4717 Docker set ulimit / file limit / nproc limit / sysctl #4717 | 16:35 |
| erw | adrian_otto: on docker, it needs to be set by docker, or via a -privileged flag (“real root" | 16:35 |
| erw | one isn’t yet supported, the other is unsafe. | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | erw: tx | 16:36 |
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| rcleere | we run in an idmap so the container doesn't run as root, and a user cannot set a higher limit | 16:36 |
| thomasem | user namespaced ^^ | 16:37 |
| rcleere | Just thought I'd get thoughts from the container community, I guess this is more of an issue to bring up with the libvirt-lxc folks. | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | rcleere: I do have a concern about this | 16:38 |
| rcleere | Whats that? | 16:38 |
| erw | implementing the underlying support on the libvirt-lxc side is something probably best discussed with them. | 16:38 |
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| adrian_otto | we want to have some way to control whether limits can or can not be set by users at container creation time | 16:38 |
| erw | the Nova side, however… poses some challenges in terms of security, how it’s exposed to users, etc. | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | solving that concern may require a concept of a soft quota and hard quota, or equivalent mechanism | 16:39 |
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| adrian_otto | that the cloud operator can control | 16:39 |
| rcleere | Well if it is running with a username space then they can only set them lower never up | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | agreed | 16:39 |
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| erw | flavors are the best option there, but it would need to be an extension specific to the needs of containers. Somewhat the opposite of what we discussed with the Nova team last week. | 16:39 |
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| adrian_otto | flavors can have metadata to control this | 16:39 |
| rcleere | Can't you set arbitrary key:values on a flavor? | 16:40 |
| rcleere | yeah | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | and an extension for this is probably fine | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | we should set expectations that some things like this will need to be added to Nova | 16:40 |
| erw | adrian_otto: which is mangled by various scheduler filters. Using arbitrary metadata implies using a custom scheduler filter, in my experience. | 16:40 |
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| adrian_otto | ideally in the main tree, and not as extensions once they are demonstrated to work nicely | 16:40 |
| rcleere | I don't think that would affect scheduling | 16:41 |
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| erw | adrian_otto: agreed, but it will be easier to sell as we can demonstrate the bulk of features will go into a containers service | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | erw, you are right that we use the metadata for the scheduler today, but the metadata should be allowed for other reasons too | 16:41 |
| erw | rcleere: at the very least, using flavor metadata breaks AggregateInstanceExtraSpecsFilter | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | erw, exactly. Our default place for stuff is the containers service. | 16:42 |
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| rcleere | It would still need to be set on the base container. | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | erw: we should consider patching AggregateInstanceExtraSpecsFilter | 16:43 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any more on this topic? | 16:44 |
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| erw | adrian_otto: also applies to ComputeCapabilitiesFilter, etc.. | 16:44 |
| rcleere | Not from me | 16:44 |
| erw | adrian_otto: granted, not unfixable... | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | feel free to continue on this | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:44 |
| erw | oh, an announcement from the nova-docker team... | 16:44 |
| thomasem | cupcakes? | 16:44 |
| erw | Tempest is now passing | 16:44 |
| thomasem | for all? | 16:44 |
| thomasem | oh | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | erw: WHOOT!! | 16:45 |
| thomasem | well that's good too | 16:45 |
| thomasem | :) | 16:45 |
| Slower | woot! | 16:45 |
| funzo | erw: I thought we still had the unicode failures | 16:45 |
| erw | it’s running as a check job for nova-docker, but I have reviews to set it as a gate for nova-docker | 16:45 |
| erw | and to run it as an experimental job for nova itself | 16:45 |
| erw | funzo: I fixed them. | 16:45 |
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| funzo | erw: oh ok. I was looking at your patch and had no idea why those tests would still fail | 16:45 |
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| funzo | erw: thanks for fixing that | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | that's definitely a milestone to be proud of, guys. | 16:46 |
| erw | funzo: there is an intermittent problem with either networking or security groups… where intermittent means I saw it happen once-and-only-once. | 16:46 |
| funzo | erw: interesting, maybe we can talk about the details offline - and I'll watch for it | 16:46 |
| Slower | yeah it's awesome, and now we have a real CI test we can use to help guage patches | 16:46 |
| erw | thanks to funzo and Slower for a lot of heavy lifting | 16:47 |
| Slower | so this new container agent, it will have to implement all that nova-docker driver does now plus the new stuff? That's my understanding, is that right? | 16:48 |
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| Slower | since it will be responsible for complete container creation | 16:48 |
| erw | Slower: initially, the basic stuff like boot, shutdown, etc.. not neutron. | 16:48 |
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| Slower | and we are going to keep the nova-docker driver as well? | 16:49 |
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| erw | Slower: yes. | 16:49 |
| Slower | are there plans to share code? | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | Slower, yes, it will need to CRUD containers, and allow for connection of STDIO streams, collect exit status, and stuff, so it will be beyond what nova-docker does not | 16:49 |
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| erw | Slower: a big differentiation here is that the containers service agent runs in the provenance of the tenant. | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | s/not/now/ | 16:49 |
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| erw | Slower: whereas Nova runs on admin-controlled systems on a trusted control plane, the containers API will provide command-and-control for tenant-owned agents. | 16:50 |
| Slower | erw: so that allows mounting etc to be "secure".. correct? | 16:51 |
| Slower | eg they can only break their own VM | 16:51 |
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| adrian_otto | Slower: yes, assuming the CAP_SYS_ADMIN thing is fixed in the kernel to something like CAP_MOUNT | 16:51 |
| erw | Slower: if you use a VM as the bucket, yes. If you use a container as the bucket, then you still have some security issues with that | 16:51 |
| erw | until we get safe container mounting | 16:51 |
| Slower | you could just run the containers privileged at that point I'd think.. | 16:51 |
| Slower | right | 16:52 |
| erw | Slower: that’s deployment-specific. | 16:52 |
| Slower | erw: right | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | oh, we also would like to select a name for the containers service, and possibly a second name for the agent that runs in the Nova instance. | 16:52 |
| Slower | it would be great if the drivers had the same interface for the agent and nova-docker.. | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | generically, we are referring to it as "Containers Service" but it deserves a good code name | 16:52 |
| erw | Slower: the plan is that users will be able to manage the outer-container directly via Nova and login to it, etc... | 16:52 |
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| erw | Slower: BUT deployers could do a fully-managed solution and make that outer-container priviledged and restrict access to Nova and the outer-container… | 16:53 |
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| iqbalmohomed | @erw ... that would be like pods in Kubernetes, I suppose? | 16:54 |
| Slower | we could even create a new API for the driver and then call it from both nova-docker and container service | 16:54 |
| erw | iqbalmohomed: yes ;-) | 16:54 |
| erw | iqbalmohomed: but pods here can be containers, VMs, or bare-metal. | 16:54 |
| iqbalmohomed | very cool | 16:54 |
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| erw | so… the name ;-) | 16:55 |
| erw | I still like “Cargo” but it seems it is already taken. | 16:55 |
| Slower | hmm, this is a major undertaking, there's a lot of code in nova we are dependant on | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | I looked at Capsule, but the trademark issues are a major concern for that name | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | so I urge us all to think on the name and come up with some ideas | 16:56 |
| s1rp | cog is easy to type :) | 16:56 |
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| iqbalmohomed | Pallet for the agentt :-p | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | iqbalmohomed: :-) | 16:56 |
| thomasem | Not Forklift? | 16:56 |
| thomasem | :P | 16:56 |
| Slower | containule | 16:57 |
| erw | pallet isn’t bad. | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | oh, damn | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | Forklift! | 16:57 |
| thomasem | It's a pun! | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | you guys are really good at this. | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | yeah, that's hilarious | 16:57 |
| erw | https://github.com/infoxchange/docker-forklift | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | ;-) got it | 16:57 |
| erw | I like it. Not sure how the infoxchange people would feel :) | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | so let's have that thread run async, and revisit it when you have an epiphany | 16:59 |
| iqbalmohomed | Before we end, I wanted to point people to a summit proposal from some of us at IBM | 16:59 |
| iqbalmohomed | https://www.openstack.org/vote-paris/Presentation/building-a-container-cloud-experiences-running-docker-containers-in-openstack-on-multiple-hosts-with-heat-and-neutron-networking | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending today | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | any stragglers wanting to be recorded in attendance | 16:59 |
| erw | thanks! | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | chime in now | 16:59 |
| iqbalmohomed | Votes would be appreciated :) We wanted to describe our great experience with nova-docker in the session | 16:59 |
| funzo | adrian_otto: thanks for putting the meeting together | 16:59 |
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| adrian_otto | funzo: my pleasure | 16:59 |
| erw | oh yeah, 45 summissions for “Docker” related talks in Paris. | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | ok, see you all next Tues at 2200 UTC | 17:00 |
| funzo | whoa | 17:00 |
| thomasem | Take it easy! | 17:00 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| iqbalmohomed | Weird ... it isn't showing the transcript | 17:02 |
| adrian_otto | did the bot fall asleep? | 17:02 |
| iqbalmohomed | topic is still for the containers meeting | 17:02 |
| ruhe | adrian_otto: did you start the meeting? | 17:02 |
| adrian_otto | yes | 17:02 |
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| adrian_otto | and my nick remained the same | 17:03 |
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| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:03 |
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| adrian_otto | the openstack bot answers when I send it a PRIVMSG | 17:03 |
| adrian_otto | but it is not responding to the endmeeting keyword in the channel | 17:04 |
| ruhe | i've asked infra folks to help with this | 17:04 |
| adrian_otto | tx ruhe | 17:04 |
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| adrian_otto | do I need to stick around, or can they force it to finish without me? | 17:05 |
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| ruhe | can you stay for a couple of minutes? (just in case) | 17:05 |
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| katyafervent | what if we start another meeting (and the previous should close automatically) ? :) | 17:06 |
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| jeblair | #endmeeting | 17:06 |
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| jeblair | there is no meeting running | 17:07 |
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| ruhe | #startmeeting murano | 17:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 5 17:08:14 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ruhe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:08 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:08 |
| adrian_otto | jeblair, I did a #endmeeitng three times, but the openstack bot did not respond with links to the transcript | 17:08 |
| jeblair | the bot died at 1617 | 17:08 |
| ruhe | ah, thanks jeblair! probably meeting ended, but didn't reply on that | 17:08 |
| adrian_otto | oh, damn | 17:08 |
| jeblair | followup in #openstack-infra | 17:08 |
| ruhe | murano team, are you still here? | 17:09 |
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| sjmc7 | hello | 17:09 |
| slagun | hi | 17:09 |
| * tsufiev doesn't know to which degree he's still in murano team, but yes ) | 17:09 | |
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| katyafervent | Hello | 17:10 |
| ruhe | tsufiev: you're driving rich UI which we need in Murano. you're part of the team! | 17:10 |
| ruhe | #topic Action Items Review | 17:10 |
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| ruhe | katyafervent Extend the description of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-api-exception-handling | 17:10 |
| ruhe | imho this BP still needs more details. thoughts? | 17:11 |
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| tsufiev | ruhe, ok ) | 17:11 |
| katyafervent | Right | 17:11 |
| katyafervent | What exactly need to be provided? | 17:11 |
| katyafervent | List of all exceptions? | 17:11 |
| katyafervent | Or anything else? | 17:11 |
| sjmc7 | before we do that, i'd like to define what we expect to see | 17:11 |
| sjmc7 | currently if an error happens, as a user, it's really hard to tell | 17:12 |
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| ruhe | should we handle error handling and reporting as part of this BP? (i guess so). but then it becomes much bigger | 17:13 |
| sjmc7 | maybe it's different, but technical decisions should come from what we want to see happen where possible | 17:14 |
| katyafervent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1328662 we also have this bug | 17:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1328662 in murano "[api] Should return JSON/XML error response bodies" [High,Confirmed] | 17:14 |
| sjmc7 | we have LOTS of exception modules | 17:14 |
| ruhe | i agree that we need to spend more time on desing of error handling. let's put this BP on hold and take this discussion to other appropriate channel | 17:16 |
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| ruhe | ok? | 17:16 |
| katyafervent | ok | 17:17 |
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| katyafervent | we can left it as part of design of new APi | 17:17 |
| ruhe | #topic Juno-3 and release schedule | 17:17 |
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| ruhe | i've added this topic just to make sure that everyone's aware of the release schedule | 17:17 |
| ruhe | #link https://launchpad.net/murano/+milestone/juno-3 | 17:18 |
| ruhe | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 17:18 |
| sjmc7 | unfortauntely our internal release schedule is a bit off that | 17:18 |
| ruhe | sjmc7: what's the official date? | 17:18 |
| sjmc7 | depends when i ask :) i think dashboard code is frozen end of august, api sometime in september | 17:19 |
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| ruhe | so, it's almost the same as release of juno-3 | 17:19 |
| ruhe | but doesn't catch the time for bug fix window | 17:20 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. i'm not sure why we've ended up offset. most stuff is based of juno.2 | 17:20 |
| sjmc7 | we'll deal with it somehow | 17:20 |
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| ruhe | ok. that was just a reminder. blueprints we have assigned for juno-3 are the only blueprints we'll be able to merge in juno. the rest of the time is dedicated for bug fixes and release candidates | 17:22 |
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| ruhe | let's move on | 17:22 |
| ruhe | #topic defer https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/engine-test-based-on-murano-pythonclient | 17:22 |
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| ruhe | this blueprint suggest to use python-muranoclient in murano integration tests. initially it was written with custom REST client in the spirit of similar tests in Tempest | 17:23 |
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| ruhe | but from our practise running integration tests with actual python client helps to catch integration issues and make sure the client is compatible with the API | 17:24 |
| ruhe | but | 17:24 |
| ruhe | due recent (or long running) issues in murano-ci, i'd like to defer this BP for at least 2 weeks and make sure murano-ci is stable | 17:24 |
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| ruhe | thoughts? | 17:25 |
| ruhe | i'll take that as a silent agreement :) | 17:26 |
| ruhe | #agreed to defer https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/engine-test-based-on-murano-pythonclient to let murano-ci to become stable | 17:26 |
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| ruhe | #topic discuss new BP for juno-3 - migrate to oslo.db | 17:26 |
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| ruhe | most of core projects have done the migration or are in the process of migration to oslo.db | 17:27 |
| ruhe | i think it'll help downstream deployments. i there is a bug found in the openstack/common/db, there is no need to patch every project, we'll only need to patch oslo.db | 17:28 |
| sjmc7 | and it's definitely going to be maintained? | 17:28 |
| sjmc7 | there's stuff in some oslo projects that seems to get written then abandoned | 17:29 |
| ruhe | sjmc7: yes, i think so. what i definetely can say is - openstack/common/db is not going to be maintained | 17:29 |
| ruhe | * in the long term | 17:29 |
| ruhe | one of examples is oslo.messaging. it was a part of osloincubator for some time and was named rpc (afair), but it graduated to oslo.messaging and now all the projects are using it | 17:31 |
| sjmc7 | ok. yeah, we should keep up with other projects | 17:31 |
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| ruhe | anyone else? | 17:33 |
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| ruhe | i'll file a blueprint and approve it if there are no objections? | 17:33 |
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| sjmc7 | do it! | 17:34 |
| ruhe | i know that serge supports this BP too :) | 17:35 |
| ruhe | ok | 17:35 |
| ruhe | #agreed to migrate to oslo.db in juno-3 | 17:35 |
| ruhe | #topic Open discussion | 17:36 |
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| ruhe | unfortunately Serge and Stan were occupied with an internal product activities for a few days. I hope they'll get back in a day or two | 17:37 |
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| sjmc7 | for open discussion.. we have some UI tweaks i got asked about last week. i listed them on the agenda (but only 2 minutes before the meeting, sorry) | 17:38 |
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| ruhe | ok. let's walk through each of them | 17:39 |
| ruhe | 1. Dashboard rename | 17:39 |
| ruhe | BP is approved and i think that we'll merge it as soon as pep8 issues are addressed | 17:39 |
| sjmc7 | ok | 17:40 |
| ruhe | 2. Removing/hiding stats panel, at least for non-admins | 17:40 |
| ruhe | i don't have any objections towards this feature. katyafervent, tsufiev what about you? | 17:40 |
| sjmc7 | not a huge deal, but it was felt it's a bit distracting in its current form, and needs some more thought | 17:40 |
| katyafervent | No | 17:41 |
| tsufiev | no objections | 17:41 |
| tsufiev | is gokrokve_ fine with removing it? | 17:41 |
| sjmc7 | is this something best done at a settings level for now? | 17:41 |
| sjmc7 | assuming other people are using it | 17:41 |
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| ruhe | tsufiev: it's not about removing. it's about an option to hide statistics from users | 17:41 |
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| tsufiev | ruhe, and showing it to admins? | 17:42 |
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| gokrokve_ | We need a way to provide these stats | 17:42 |
| sjmc7 | can we make it an admin-level thing? | 17:42 |
| gokrokve_ | The reason of hiding is not because it is not valuable but because API works nasty | 17:43 |
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| sjmc7 | the reason we've been asked to hide it is that we don't see it as being useful to us right now | 17:43 |
| gokrokve_ | I am ok with showing it to admins only | 17:43 |
| sjmc7 | though i accept it is of use to others, so i'm not suggestng removal | 17:43 |
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| ruhe | config option to hide/show stats panel for users would be a nice solution | 17:44 |
| tsufiev | gokrokve_, ruhe, sjmc7: 'API works nasty' sounds to me like a bug | 17:44 |
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| sjmc7 | where did i say 'api works nasty'? | 17:44 |
| ruhe | gokrokve_: said that :) | 17:44 |
| gokrokve_ | I told this | 17:44 |
| gokrokve_ | It works nasty because of sessions. | 17:45 |
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| sjmc7 | personally i don't think it should be in the murano API at all, best left to ceilometer, but that's not an argument i want to have | 17:45 |
| tsufiev | sjmc7, i just wanted to point that it's not ok as it may seem | 17:45 |
| ruhe | sjmc7: +1 | 17:45 |
| sjmc7 | the session stuff also is something i don't like, but again, another day | 17:45 |
| ruhe | now i feel that we shouldn't let statistics to land in their current form | 17:46 |
| slagun | Don't blame session until you have a better idea how to implement or avoid them :) | 17:46 |
| sjmc7 | right slagun, that's why i said another day :) so if people are ok in principle with either always limitign to admins, or making it configurable, we cna do either | 17:46 |
| tsufiev | my opinion: is there is serious bug which cannot be fixed soon, it should be removed | 17:46 |
| ruhe | did we agree to introduce a cofnig option to hide/show stats panel to users? | 17:46 |
| ruhe | sjmc7: gokrokve_: tsufiev ^^ | 17:46 |
| gokrokve_ | +1 hide it for now | 17:47 |
| gokrokve_ | allow only admin to see it | 17:47 |
| ruhe | gokrokve_: hide it by default? | 17:47 |
| gokrokve_ | To non admin user - yes | 17:47 |
| slagun | +1 for hiding, +100500 for API feature freeze | 17:47 |
| tsufiev | gokrokve_, will showing it only for admins help to live with that bug? | 17:47 |
| sjmc7 | ok | 17:47 |
| ruhe | gokrokve_: do you need a config option to show it for non admin users? | 17:47 |
| gokrokve_ | No | 17:48 |
| ruhe | cool | 17:48 |
| gokrokve_ | Let's keep it bound to admins only | 17:48 |
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| ruhe | #agreed to hide stats panel from non-admin users by default | 17:48 |
| gokrokve_ | Eventually we just need to send these stats data to Ceilometer | 17:48 |
| ruhe | 3. Mark images - can do it via glance CLI so not urgent, but it needs to be more flexible (email thread, no conclusion) | 17:48 |
| sjmc7 | there was some email discussion on this. stan had some good suggestions but they're beyond the scope of what we can do in the next few weeks | 17:49 |
| gokrokve_ | As there is no Ceilometer integration page for all OpenStack compoennts we need to show these stats by outselfes | 17:49 |
| ruhe | that discussion didn't end with a conclusion | 17:49 |
| sjmc7 | so i think we may just limit ourselves to doing it via the glance CLI for now | 17:49 |
| sjmc7 | but i do think that it needs improvement | 17:49 |
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| gokrokve_ | sjmc7: As you are using image based deployment we probably need more effectve image filtering in UI | 17:50 |
| ruhe | graffiti might be what we need for image filtering | 17:51 |
| sjmc7 | yeah.. even if it was just free text it'd be easier | 17:51 |
| sjmc7 | yes, could be. so for now i think we can agree we'll just do it with the glance cli | 17:51 |
| ruhe | sjmc7: ok | 17:51 |
| ruhe | 4. Moving to Projects panel | 17:51 |
| ruhe | i support that | 17:51 |
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| ruhe | just because we need to comform with the rest of the dashboard | 17:52 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. but it probably needs some more thought; packages, for example, don't belong to a project | 17:52 |
| ruhe | i'm not sure about the amount of work, but i'd like this to be done at least early in K | 17:52 |
| sjmc7 | yeah | 17:52 |
| ruhe | tsufiev: what do you think about this? | 17:53 |
| sjmc7 | i need to discuss it more with our prodct people. they may want to keep it separate | 17:53 |
| tsufiev | ruhe, I know that the same thing was done for Sahara when it became integrated project | 17:54 |
| ruhe | sahara had a separte dashboard. but once they became integrated and started to integrate sahara dashboard into horizon, they were told to move it under projects panel | 17:54 |
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| katyafervent | so we could be prepared | 17:55 |
| sjmc7 | right. so likely we will need to | 17:55 |
| tsufiev | ruhe, the short answer is 'yes, we can' ) | 17:55 |
| gokrokve_ | True, but after they are incubated, not before | 17:55 |
| sjmc7 | so let's agree to start thinking about it, get a plan during the summit if not before | 17:55 |
| sjmc7 | ok. that's me done | 17:56 |
| ruhe | yeah, on one side we have the common layout of openstack dashboard on the other hand we have input from our product owners. we need to balance between both :) | 17:56 |
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| sjmc7 | yup | 17:57 |
| ruhe | anything else to discuss today? | 17:57 |
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| sjmc7 | not from me | 17:57 |
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| ruhe | thanks everyone! | 17:59 |
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| ruhe | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 5 17:59:56 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-08-05-17.08.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-08-05-17.08.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-08-05-17.08.log.html | 18:00 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 5 22:00:21 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum Our Agenda | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 22:00 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 22:00 |
| muralia | Murali Allada | 22:00 |
| tomblank | tom blankenship | 22:00 |
| ravips | Ravi Sankar Penta | 22:00 |
| james_li | James Li | 22:00 |
| datsun180b | Ed Cranford | 22:01 |
| asalkeld | o/ | 22:02 |
| adrian_otto | welcome everyone! | 22:02 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 22:03 | |
| adrian_otto | (none prepared, any from the team?) | 22:03 |
| adrian_otto | I am on ETO this week, and will be returning to work on Monday | 22:03 |
| adrian_otto | but I have not checked in much in the past few weeks, so I wanted to touch down with you today | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | Ed, did we have action items from last week? | 22:04 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 22:04 |
| datsun180b | oh let me go check | 22:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 22:04 | |
| adrian_otto | tx | 22:04 |
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| datsun180b | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum/2014/solum.2014-07-29-16.03.html | 22:05 |
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| datsun180b | just one, ravips to add testing docs to repo | 22:05 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, status of that? | 22:05 |
| ravips | I did not add testing docs to the repo, I was able to update the wiki directly | 22:06 |
| ravips | updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/Testing, please review | 22:06 |
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| adrian_otto | ravips: so to add something to the repo, we need to submit it through Gerrit for review. Did you attempt that? | 22:07 |
| ravips | I did not find the corresponding rst file in the repo | 22:07 |
| datsun180b | I think the original attempt was to update the docs, and it was assumed that the repo was the route for that | 22:08 |
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| datsun180b | but the wiki is just a wiki, there's no repo behind it | 22:08 |
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| adrian_otto | ok | 22:08 |
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| adrian_otto | so we can consider that action item complete | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | if we do have a gap in our docs, lets submit a bug ticket and then submit patches against that to resolve the gap | 22:08 |
| ravips | do we want to move our wiki content to rst files or leave it in wiki for editing? | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | Do members of our team feel the Wiki is sufficient? | 22:09 |
| asalkeld | most projects use rst files | 22:09 |
| asalkeld | not really wiki | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | I think if something feels like it belongs in the repo, and it's not changing rapidly, then we should put it in the repo docs, and link to that from the wiki | 22:09 |
| asalkeld | as they get forgotten | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | asalkeld: +1 | 22:09 |
| datsun180b | i like having the wiki offhand as a reference | 22:09 |
| datsun180b | at worst we just copy and rstify the wiki to INSTALLING.rst and call it good | 22:10 |
| datsun180b | no dibs on that | 22:10 |
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| muralia | ya, im ok with copying the same to rst | 22:10 |
| tomblank | my 2 cents is that the Wiki is sufficient. | 22:10 |
| ravips | when to use wiki vs rst vs dockbook https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HowTo#What_Docs_Go_Where.3F | 22:10 |
| asalkeld | it's not a big issue, I like our readthedocs tho' | 22:10 |
| asalkeld | http://solum.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 22:11 |
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| adrian_otto | ravips: according to that guideline this really is RST content for us, yeah? | 22:11 |
| ravips | yeah, I think RST is better for us | 22:12 |
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| adrian_otto | ravips: are you willing to take a new action to put that into RST? | 22:12 |
| ravips | I will create rst files for the existing content this week | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | it's okay if you table it for later | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | the action item could just be to file the bug ticket if you want to revisit it another time | 22:13 |
| tomblank | ok i withdraw my 2 cents.. and let's put it in the repo :) | 22:13 |
| datsun180b | they'll have to be manually updated in the future should something change so it's understood that it's ongoing | 22:13 |
| datsun180b | so which is to become the authority, the repo or the wiki? | 22:14 |
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| adrian_otto | #action ravips to submit a bug ticket to track conversion of testing related Wiki content to RST, when convenient. Entered as a wishlist item. | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | datsun180b: the RST would be authoritative, and we can put links to it in the wiki for convenience | 22:14 |
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| datsun180b | thanks, just wanted it in writing | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | the rationale is that our team should be comfortable merging patches | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | if we have content sourced by non-developers, we can look at alternate approaches | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | ok, next topic | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 22:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint/Task Review (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 22:15 | |
| adrian_otto | #link https://launchpad.net/solum/+milestone/juno-2 Juno Development Tasks | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | Subject: Pipelines | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | updates on this? | 22:16 |
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| asalkeld | adrian_otto, it's in and works | 22:16 |
| asalkeld | did a demo over the weekend | 22:17 |
| asalkeld | at pyconau | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | asalkeld: sweet! | 22:17 |
| datsun180b | nice | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | oh, that's awesome | 22:17 |
| asalkeld | so unittest is not in | 22:17 |
| asalkeld | but build and build_deploy are in and work | 22:17 |
| datsun180b | i was about to ask about de-fire-brigading those methods | 22:17 |
| tomblank | asalkeld: is there a video or anything you could share? | 22:18 |
| datsun180b | since build calls to unittest and then deploy | 22:18 |
| asalkeld | tomblank, they will be uploading soon | 22:18 |
| tomblank | of the pyconau demo? | 22:18 |
| asalkeld | https://www.youtube.com/user/PyConAU | 22:18 |
| tomblank | asalkeld: great, thanks! | 22:18 |
| asalkeld | all kinds of talks there | 22:18 |
| asalkeld | interesting one about zerovm | 22:18 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so what are our next steps with Pipelines, add the unittest module? | 22:18 |
| asalkeld | adrian_otto, yip | 22:18 |
| asalkeld | and ui | 22:19 |
| adrian_otto | do we already have an assignee? | 22:19 |
| asalkeld | not yet | 22:19 |
| asalkeld | also need some integration with the infra stuff | 22:19 |
| datsun180b | i'm guessing the rpc methods in worker need to be updated | 22:19 |
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| adrian_otto | asalkeld: are you referring to integration with the build farm resources? | 22:20 |
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| muralia | I'm investigating UI and horizon integration | 22:20 |
| asalkeld | yip | 22:20 |
| asalkeld | we need to get the outputs from the infra farm heat stack and feed that into the mistral context | 22:21 |
| asalkeld | (pipeline_handler) | 22:21 |
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| asalkeld | muralia, even something simple to start with would be good | 22:21 |
| asalkeld | and integrates with mistal UI | 22:21 |
| asalkeld | and heat stacks | 22:22 |
| muralia | yup. I'm taking what paul was working on to help us create a simple mistral workflow and use that | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | ok, good. | 22:22 |
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| adrian_otto | any more thoughts on Pipelines before we advance to the next topic? | 22:22 |
| asalkeld | no, I am done | 22:22 |
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| adrian_otto | Subject: Build Farm | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | what's happened here in the past few weeks? | 22:23 |
| asalkeld | guest agent reviews | 22:24 |
| asalkeld | and some docker setup stuff | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | anything we should touch base on together today? | 22:24 |
| asalkeld | (not a good time for julienvey I guess) | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | I think he is/was out on vacation | 22:24 |
| asalkeld | stannie not in | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | ok, will come back to that next week | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | Subject: Private git repo integration (ravips) | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | ravips: how is this coming along? | 22:26 |
| ravips | completed the task last week, need code reviews from the team: https://review.openstack.org/105605 , https://review.openstack.org/109468 , https://review.openstack.org/111846 | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | ok, good! | 22:26 |
| muralia | ravips, were you able to figure out why the f20 gate keeps failing? | 22:26 |
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| ravips | yes, look at this change https://review.openstack.org/111846 | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | Jenkins did not vote on 109468? | 22:27 |
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| datsun180b | probably waiting for us to move on it first | 22:27 |
| muralia | i see a +1 from jenkins | 22:28 |
| ravips | adrian_otto: barbican was not installed on devstack and that causing functionaltests to fail | 22:28 |
| datsun180b | oh nevermind, i see muralia there | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | ravips: I see, so 109468 addresses that? | 22:28 |
| ravips | muralia was talking about the same issue, https://review.openstack.org/111846 should fix jenkins problem | 22:28 |
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| muralia | cool. i think most people were waiting for jenkins to +1 before they revire. | 22:29 |
| ravips | then i need +1 for 111846 :) | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so I aded a +2 on 109468 | 22:30 |
| muralia | I've been testing your code ravi. I'm having a few issues with hookinh up the trigger url with my git repo to test git push, but seems to be working. good stuff. | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | muralia: that's exciting! | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | This is going to be a really slick feature. Let | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | Let's help ravips finish it up by getting those reviews in | 22:31 |
| datsun180b | can do | 22:31 |
| muralia | we dont support branches yet though. solum will always pull from master. | 22:31 |
| ravips | muralia: lets chat on solum after the call about the issues you faced | 22:31 |
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| adrian_otto | muralia: we might want to track our caveats like that one in tech tebt task/bug tickets | 22:32 |
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| datsun180b | i added some code to unittest-app and slugtester to pave the way for specifying branches | 22:32 |
| muralia | ravips: sure. | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | sweet | 22:32 |
| muralia | yup. will add bugs. | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | muralia: tx!! | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | any more on the subject of private repos? | 22:32 |
| ravips | i'm done | 22:32 |
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| adrian_otto | I think we are finished checking in on chained trust things, right asalkeld? | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | is there anything outstanding there we should be keeping track of? | 22:33 |
| asalkeld | no | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 22:34 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks asalkeld | 22:34 |
| gpilz | i finally got the Solum CAMP API spec in for review | 22:34 |
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| gpilz | https://review.openstack.org/112154 | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | thanks Gil | 22:35 |
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| gpilz | sorry for the multiple commits - i should have used —amend | 22:35 |
| datsun180b | no problem, we can sort it all out. glad you're on the contrib list now | 22:36 |
| ravips | we have 20+ bugs that needs to be triaged | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | ravips: I will get that in order starting on Monday | 22:36 |
| datsun180b | yeah, i just threw one on the pile yesterday--deploys have been failing for me | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | anything urgent that I should fit in before I come back to work? | 22:36 |
| ravips | adrian_otto: ok, thanks | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | you are welcome to start in on a bug even before triage between now and then | 22:37 |
| adrian_otto | please don't perceive that as a showstopper. | 22:37 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I suggest we wrap up a bit early today | 22:38 |
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| adrian_otto | next week there will be some news on the dev list about the addition of Containers as a new project in the OpenStack compute program | 22:39 |
| datsun180b | no quarrel from me | 22:39 |
| PaulCzar | sorry I’m late :) | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | so please keep an eye out for that. | 22:39 |
| tomblank | adrian_otto: sounds good. thanks for taking the time off from your holiday (ETO) to chair the meeting. | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | the Containers team met at the Midcycle meetup, and presented to the nova team to drive early consensus on an approach to adding containers as a first class resource in OpenStack. | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | tomblank: you are welcome. Thanks for helping out when I was away before. | 22:40 |
| asalkeld | zerovm in there too? | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | asalkeld: not yet | 22:40 |
| asalkeld | might not be as easy to model | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | zerovm might not fit into that plan | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | but it's worth thinking about | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | zerovm fits best into swift I think | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | anyway, thanks for attending everyone. I look forward to getting back to normal again next week. | 22:41 |
| asalkeld | I have to go, kids to school ... | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | anyone need to chime in for attendance before I end meeting? | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone! | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 5 22:42:31 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-08-05-22.00.html | 22:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-08-05-22.00.txt | 22:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-08-05-22.00.log.html | 22:42 |
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