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samstav#startmeeting satori15:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 18 15:01:14 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samstav. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'satori'15:01
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samstavHello, who's here for satori?15:03
walker_o/15:04
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samstavMight just be us walker_15:05
samstav#topic action items15:05
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walker_I've had worse company samstav15:05
walker_:)15:05
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samstavI think most of the action items mentioned in the previous meeting have been completed15:06
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samstavOpen submissions have all been reviews15:06
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samstavreviewed*15:06
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samstavwalker_ drafted https://blueprints.launchpad.net/satori/+spec/allow-non-sudo-escalation15:08
samstavwalker_ shall we assign that to you?15:09
walker_Sure!15:09
samstavdone15:10
samstavLet me know if you have any questions on the workflow15:10
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samstav#action Implementation for blueprint: allow non sudo escalation15:10
samstav#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/satori/+spec/allow-non-sudo-escalation15:11
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samstavI've just assigned myself to this new blueprint15:11
* samstav #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/satori/+spec/remain-open-post-remote-execute15:11
walker_nice15:11
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samstav#action walker_ Implementation for blueprint: allow non sudo escalation15:12
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samstav#action samstav Implementation for blueprint: remain open post remote execute15:12
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samstavNot sure when Nico will have spare cycles again, but I'll go ahead and set this item15:13
samstav#action n1ck-o Implementation for blueprint: check if powershell version is supported before trying PoSh-Ohai15:14
samstav#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/satori/+spec/powershell-version15:14
samstav#topic general discussion15:15
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samstavI think that's really about it. Mostly assigning people to do things!15:15
samstavWere there any other features running in fork that we need to create blueprints for?15:15
samstavI think there's just the non-sudo escalation...15:16
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samstavThat is the only diff between stackforge/master and our fork15:16
samstavAlright then, until next week...15:16
samstavAdios15:16
walker_Thanks!15:18
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samstav#endmeeting15:18
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redrobot#startmeeting barbican20:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 18 20:01:31 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'barbican'20:01
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redrobotHi everyone, welcome to the Barbican weekly meeting20:02
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redrobotas usual the agenda can be found here:20:02
redrobot#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican20:02
redrobot#topic Roll Call20:02
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woodster_o/20:02
jvrbanac\o_20:02
rellerrellero/20:02
chellygel\o/ _o_ \o/ _o_20:02
SheenaG1o/20:02
lisaclark1o/20:03
redrobotI wonder if alee is here?20:03
aleeo/20:03
redrobotwoohoo!20:03
rm_worko/20:03
redrobotlots of barbicanneeers20:03
redrobotok, let's get the meeting started.20:04
redrobot#topic Juno Home Stretch20:04
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redrobotwoodster_ I saw your email to the dev list earlier and saved this spot to talk abou tit20:04
woodster_rellerreller actually got the ball rolling there20:04
woodster_basically what we are planning to get ready for M320:04
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woodster_Seems like secret-store features are in good shape (KMIP, Dogtag, HSM)20:05
redrobot#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/043360.html20:05
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aleeM3 deadline is September 4th, right?20:05
aleeor is it sometime before then?20:06
rellerrellerI think September 420:06
jvrbanac#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule20:06
redrobotalee correct, Sept 4 is Juno-3 release20:06
redrobotjvrbanac thanks!20:06
redrobotAlso, Sept 4 is feature code freeze20:06
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redrobotand String freeze20:07
redrobotbasically, a very cold day :)20:07
woodster_I believe that applies to the openstack/barbican repo20:07
rm_workbrrrrrr20:07
rm_workyeah, that doesn't apply to python-barbicanclient, right?20:07
woodster_openstack/python-barbicanclient is still slushy on that date,and can be modified20:07
rm_workkk thanks20:07
woodster_we think so20:08
redrobotrm_work correct, the release scheduled that jvrbanac linked above applies only to the Service API20:08
aleewhat are the deadlines on the client side?20:08
woodster_rm_work: but still get that stuff done by sept 4th just in case :)20:08
redrobotpython-barbicanclient does not have a release schedule.20:08
rm_workwoodster_: aye aye cap'n20:08
redrobotalee we can release python-barbicanclient on demand20:08
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woodster_I think it would be good to have the client synced with the service before the final release of course20:09
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aleeredrobot, thats good - because its highly unlikely that I will even really start the key wrapping features in barbican client by the 4th.20:09
aleebut betwen then and release may be doable.20:09
alee5 weeks -- quite doable in fact20:10
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redrobotOk, so any questions/comments regarding woodster_'s email?20:12
redrobotI think he put a good summary together20:12
rellerrellerI thought it was a good summary and thought it was good to post20:13
aleewoodster_, so I'm ok with pushing out some of the cert stuff ..20:13
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woodster_alee: nice!20:13
aleethat is - pushing out the advertising of what ca's are available.20:13
aleeand the addition of an interface for sub ca's20:14
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redrobotFeature Proposal Freeze is this Thursday, so if there are any yet-unsubmitted-blueprints, now would be the time to submit those.20:14
woodster_I'm working on a CR to have some of the certificate event modules for consideration20:14
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aleewhich wont be around till K timeframe in any case.20:14
rm_workredrobot: proposed but not yet merged BPs have longer, right?20:14
aleeredrobot, for K? or for J?20:14
woodster_I think that is just for Juno20:15
aleegood :/20:15
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redrobotalee proposal freeze is for J release20:15
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redrobotrm_work yes, but we should try to get those BPs merged if possible20:15
aleewoodster_, but we will need some way to differentiate between ca's20:15
rm_workredrobot: just thinking of yours :)20:15
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rm_workredrobot: which you still need to update20:16
aleewoodster_, specifically a client will need to be able to specify which ca it wants to use for its cert requests20:16
rm_workor I guess I could take it over...20:16
aleeand then we'll need server side code to make that happen.20:16
woodster_alee: that would be great if we could do it20:16
rm_workredrobot: would you rather I just took it over?20:16
aleewoodster_,  well - we need to if we want to be able to test cert issuance20:17
redrobotrm_work you can if you want to...20:17
redrobotrm_work sounds like you want to20:17
rm_work:P might speed things up20:17
aleewoodster_,  I'm going to suggest we use the subject key identifier for the ca signing cert20:17
aleewoodster_, thats a 20 byte string that is supposed to be unique for a ca20:17
aleewoodster_,  we'll need to handle it in any case when we start servicing revocation requests20:18
woodster_alee: that sounds good. So maybe we;d have two work efforts, one to add a supports() method to the cert plugin that pays attention to that field, and one to add the service to discover what plugins are available and return the schema?20:19
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aleewoodster_, yes - the first one should go in before J20:19
aleethe second can be deferred to K20:20
woodster_alee: that sounds cool to me20:20
aleeok20:20
atiwari__woodster_, alee are we talking about improving the support method to use meta (key-spec) to check support?20:21
woodster_other maybe-in-K items were: Keystone eventing, the json-home version resource, adding plugin validation method in our validators.py module?20:21
aleeof course, all this needs to land on top of arvind's patches20:21
aleeatiwari__, we're talking about a supports method that cert plugins need to implement20:21
atiwari__ok20:21
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rellerrellerWhich CR is arvind's?20:22
woodster_ha, yes! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87405/20:22
aleethere are two ..20:22
woodster_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87405/20:22
atiwari__rellerreller, I have just pushed another patch with fix for your comment20:22
alee#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111412/20:23
rellerrelleratiwari__ thanks20:23
woodster_That CR would be very good to land soon20:23
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woodster_The asymmetric CR would be nice thereafter20:23
woodster_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111412/20:23
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aleewoodster_, I put in a comments in the asymm CR at the end -- let me know what you think20:24
woodster_alee: will do20:24
redrobotawesome, sounds like we're in pretty good shape for J3.20:24
atiwari__alee, I think I have addressed all of your comments20:24
aleewoodster_, is the plan to try to get in logic to do both cert issuance and cert generation?20:25
redrobotI've also been trying to stay on top of the bugfixes for J320:25
aleeatiwari__, you might have missed the last one?20:25
atiwari__alee hmm20:25
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aleeatiwari__, oh I'll take that back ..20:25
aleenew patch since I looked last20:25
atiwari__alee :)20:25
woodster_alee: that would be nice, at least from the framework/api definition perspective.20:26
redrobotatiwari__ I see 3 bugs listed as In-Progress for you20:26
redrobot#link https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/juno-320:26
atiwari__let me take a look20:26
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redrobotwe also have 4 confirmed bugs that are unassigned20:27
aleeincidentally, there is a WIP CR for an extension to the dogtag plugin to do cert generation .. please take a look.20:27
atiwari__redrobot, woodster_ wondering why add more type bp is not listed for J3?20:27
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aleewoodster_, who is doing the certificate generation and issuance CR?  me, you, chellygel ?20:29
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redrobotatiwari__ it was listead for juno-1 for some reason, just changed it to target juno-320:29
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atiwari__redrobot, thanks20:30
woodster_alee: we can talk about that off this meeting if you'd like...we just have to coordinate that work. If you are doing Dogtag exclusively, that isn't as much a concern, but still integration of course20:30
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aleewoodster_, ok lets chat after this meeting20:30
woodster_alee: I think the main thing is scoping M3 vs beyond.20:31
woodster_alee: sounds good20:31
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atiwari__redrobot, I will look at bugs20:31
redrobotatiwari__ thanks!  Also, don't feel pressured to fix them all.  If there's any of them that you can't get to we can unassign them and have someone else pick them up.20:32
atiwari__ok20:32
aleeredrobot, I'll work with you post-J3 to get the dogtag chef work done.20:33
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redrobotalee sounds good!  I'm envisioning a 3rd party testing gate that can spin up dogtag instances so we can run tests against them for every CR20:34
aleeredrobot, sounds excellent20:35
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aleewoodster_, what is plugin validation?20:37
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woodster_That's asking the plugins to validate client request data20:37
woodster_A little different than the supports() contract20:37
aleewoodster_, for certs only or other operations?20:38
woodster_So supports() just says if a plugin can handle a process or not, and validate() would handle doing a detailed validation of the input data. The latter could be done in the API/synchronous processing, in addition to the validators.py json schema logic now20:38
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woodster_alee: it could be for all operations20:39
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aleewoodster_, so you'd like to land adding the framework before J3?  the plugin methods themselves wont get written by then for sure.20:40
woodster_alee: for example, right now we hard-code the key-type order checks (for algorithm, bit length) based on the one type we use now. In reality, the plugins should take on that validation, not hard coded logic in the common/validators.py module.20:40
aleethis sounds like something that goes to K ..20:40
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woodster_alee: it woudl be good to have a validate() method on the plugins my M3, to solidify those contracts20:41
woodster_alee: yeah, we are coming down to the wire for sure.20:41
woodster_alee: we might just have to say, we'll defer validation and just assume a one-plugin deployment approach for Juno20:41
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redrobot+1 one-plugin deployment for Juno20:43
woodster_if we had a validate() method on the plugins for M3 though, I'm thinking we could complete the integration into barbican core for the final release though?20:43
aleewoodster_, right now , we do some kind of validation based on the supports() method and the keyspec20:43
aleeor am I confused ..20:43
woodster_or is that stretching the feature freeze a bit? Does ice stretch??20:43
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woodster_alee: well, supports() is intended to select a plugin to do further processing. it wouldn't have to do a full validation check necessarily. Validation only has to be done when we receive the request. We'd call supports() on the worker side again, but a full validation would not be needed.20:45
woodster_alee: so the symantec plugin supports() would just have to check if it is the CA requested. The validate() could then look at each key/value pair to see if the data is complete/incorrect.20:46
aleewoodster_, sure -- lets leave aside cert issuance right now ..20:46
aleethere clearly more validation is needed20:46
aleeI'm interested in what you think should be there for key generation and for storage ..20:47
aleegiven that the supports methods we currrently have has a key_spec20:47
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woodster_I'd like to move this logic:20:48
aleewhich plugins use to determine if they support key algorithm , length etc.20:48
woodster_#https://github.com/openstack/barbican/blob/master/barbican/common/validators.py#L29020:48
woodster_...for example.20:48
aleeI see -- did not realize we only support "aes" here ..20:50
woodster_so key generation can only support aes cbc keys now, plugins be damn*d :)  Trying to put plugins in the driver's seat. This validation logic only needs to be done in the API node, not the worker node.20:50
rellerrellerIf there is a discussion about this then can you please list a date/time? I would like to know about this.20:51
rellerrellerI cannot discuss today as only 9 minutes left.20:51
aleewoodster_, yeah - lets table this and set up a meeting20:51
woodster_ah, got it...maybe tomorrow in IRC...2 or 3pm?20:51
rellerrellerAre those ET or CT?20:52
redrobotheh... yeah... time flies when you're having fun :)20:52
woodster_...looks at calendar...3 or 4pm CDT20:52
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rellerreller4 CDT works for me20:52
aleeI have meeting at 4:30 ET20:52
rellerrellerSorry I meant 3 CDT20:52
aleewhich is 3:30 CDT20:53
aleecan we start earlier?20:53
woodster_we have planning meetings until 3pm CDT tomorrow20:54
redrobotYeah... psrint planning day is never productive :-\20:54
woodster_maybe an etherpad would work to get us started?20:54
woodster_etherpad, then meet if needed?20:54
alee:) ok - how about wed ? and woodster_ can get an etherpad going with some ideas20:54
rellerrellerSounds good20:55
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woodster_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-validation-options20:56
redrobotok, guys, it's time to wrap it up for the weekly meeting20:56
redrobotthanks everyone!20:56
rellerrellerShameless plug but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101582/ has 2 +2s and only needs workflow approval :)20:57
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redrobotrellerreller I'll take a look at it :)20:57
redrobotsee you guys next week!20:57
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