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| jiangfei | #startmeeting tripleo | 06:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 26 06:19:48 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jiangfei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:19 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 06:19 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 06:19 |
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| tchaypo | \o | 07:56 |
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| lsmola2 | o/ | 07:57 |
| d0ugal | \o | 07:57 |
| d0ugal | lsmola2: Who are you and what did you do with lsmola? | 07:58 |
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| lsmola2 | d0ugal I am his morning double :-) | 07:59 |
| tchaypo | pre-caffeine? | 07:59 |
| d0ugal | lsmola: Just checking for impostors ;) | 08:00 |
| tchaypo | I’d love to have a double to handle the pre-caffeine parts of the day | 08:00 |
| d0ugal | lol | 08:00 |
| lsmola2 | hehe | 08:00 |
| d0ugal | tchaypo: I quit caffeine which solved that issue. | 08:00 |
| marios_ | o/ morning all | 08:00 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 08:00 |
| tchaypo | For my part you’ll just have to imagine me recreating a scene from Brokeback Mountain | 08:00 |
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| * marios_ gets caffeinne | 08:00 | |
| tchaypo | specifically the “i just cain’t quit you” bit | 08:01 |
| d0ugal | lol | 08:01 |
| d0ugal | I've not seen it | 08:01 |
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| tchaypo | it had beautifully camerawork capturing beautiful scenery. | 08:01 |
| gfidente | what is this talking about brokeback mountain | 08:01 |
| shardy | o/ | 08:02 |
| gfidente | am I in the right bar? | 08:02 |
| d0ugal | gfidente: tchaypo can't quick caffeine just like somebody can't quit something in brokeback mountain... | 08:02 |
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| tchaypo | okay, we’re two minutes over time, shall we start? | 08:02 |
| marios_ | gfidente: donno were you looking for the fabulous bar? | 08:02 |
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| tchaypo | #startmeeting tripleo | 08:03 |
| openstack | tchaypo: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 08:03 |
| * tchaypo facepalms | 08:03 | |
| GheRivero | do'h | 08:03 |
| tchaypo | #help | 08:03 |
| tchaypo | #endmeeting | 08:03 |
| gfidente | topic set to tripleo though | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 26 08:03:38 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-11-26-06.19.html | 08:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-11-26-06.19.txt | 08:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-11-26-06.19.log.html | 08:03 |
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| tchaypo | okay, that’s confusing | 08:03 |
| StevenK | Well, that was a quick meeting | 08:04 |
| tchaypo | #startmeeting tripleo | 08:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 26 08:04:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tchaypo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 08:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 08:04 |
| * marios_ dejavu | 08:04 | |
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| tchaypo | Did someone do that earlier and I didn’t notice? | 08:04 |
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| tchaypo | I’m very confuse | 08:04 |
| GheRivero | let me check the logs.. | 08:04 |
| gfidente | tchaypo, I joined at .55 and topic was already set to it | 08:05 |
| marios_ | 06:19 < jiangfei> #startmeeting tripleo | 08:05 |
| GheRivero | someone two hours ago started the meeting | 08:05 |
| marios_ | jiangfei had a tripleo meeting couple hours ago | 08:05 |
| tchaypo | I noticed this morning that https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings said the meeting started at 0700UTC | 08:05 |
| d0ugal | lol | 08:05 |
| tchaypo | while the ical said 0800 UTC | 08:05 |
| StevenK | And he didn't even invite us | 08:05 |
| tchaypo | so I was going to raise that as the first issue in the meeting | 08:05 |
| StevenK | It's now 7pm, I'd prefer the meeting be two hours earlier | 08:06 |
| tchaypo | I’ve fixed the wiki to match the iCal which matches https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO which matches the email sent in september | 08:06 |
| gfidente | yeah I think we should strip the part where it says: 'Next meeting scheduled for' from wiki as that is never accurate | 08:06 |
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| tchaypo | stevenk: it’s now 9am CET, 8AM GMT | 08:06 |
| marios_ | StevenK: 2 hrs is a bit harsh for EU though, would make it 0700 for them | 08:06 |
| marios_ | StevenK: which is kinda the point of having this meeting (eu friendly) | 08:06 |
| d0ugal | marios_: or 0600 for the UK | 08:07 |
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| marios_ | d0ugal: right, thx | 08:07 |
| tchaypo | that said - I think we used to have better attendance when this meeting was an hour earlier | 08:07 |
| StevenK | Just makes it difficult to organise anything on Wednesday night every fortnight | 08:07 |
| StevenK | Since I'm effectively blocked from 7pm until 8pm | 08:07 |
| gfidente | well if I can spare mine, 9am is not good even though it is supposedly to help people in EU | 08:07 |
| d0ugal | StevenK: That's the issue we have on Tuesday nights :) | 08:07 |
| tchaypo | StevenK: so don’t, attend the other meeting instead | 08:08 |
| gfidente | and the alternating schedule always makes me miss some meetings | 08:08 |
| marios_ | StevenK: heh yeah, my tripleo alternate is at 2100 and neutron is at 2300 :/ | 08:08 |
| gfidente | if we were to vote again, I'd drop the alternating schedule | 08:08 |
| tchaypo | How about we kick this off on the list again? | 08:08 |
| d0ugal | =1 | 08:08 |
| d0ugal | +1 | 08:08 |
| tchaypo | or even perhaps | 08:08 |
| marios_ | +=1 | 08:08 |
| tchaypo | revisit what the meeting is for? | 08:09 |
| shardy | fwiw we've been through this multiple times with heat, and it's impossible to please everyone | 08:09 |
| shardy | at least with an alternating schedule you're not permanently excluding some tz's | 08:09 |
| StevenK | Indeed | 08:09 |
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| StevenK | We cover most of the world | 08:09 |
| shardy | My .02 GPB FWIW ;) | 08:09 |
| tchaypo | a lot of what we do seem to be simple status updates - perhaps we could just delegate one person to give a weekly report to the list, and save the meeting for something more focused like hitting the top priority reviews? | 08:09 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: +2 +A | 08:09 |
| GheRivero | +1 | 08:09 |
| greghaynes | Maybe even make a doodle :) | 08:09 |
| gfidente | I had some one-off topic though | 08:10 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: Bring that up on the list too, it could also make meetings quicker | 08:10 |
| tchaypo | at my second-last job we solved this problem by splitting the team in 13 pieces, each separated by no more than ~10 hours, so that it was possible for each team to find one single weekly meeting time | 08:10 |
| gfidente | at least today | 08:10 |
| tchaypo | unfortunately that doesn’t work for this kind of team :) | 08:10 |
| tchaypo | okay | 08:10 |
| tchaypo | #action tchaypo to raise meeting time and purpose on list | 08:10 |
| tchaypo | now let’s get started | 08:10 |
| d0ugal | \o/ | 08:10 |
| tchaypo | #topic agenda | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | * bugs | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | * reviews | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | * Projects needing releases | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | * CD Cloud status | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | * CI | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | * Tuskar | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | * Specs | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | * open discussion | 08:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 08:11 | |
| tchaypo | Remember that anyone can use the link and info commands, not just the moderator - if you have something worth noting in the meeting minutes feel free to tag it | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | #topic bugs | 08:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 08:11 | |
| tchaypo | I’ve noticed the untriaged bot has been very noisy lately | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | I think it would be valuable if we could tidy that up right now | 08:11 |
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| marios_ | tchaypo: apologies I will hopefully have more time to look at +bug/1188067 later today | 08:11 |
| tchaypo | I was about to say something similar - I think the dnsmasq issue i saw in hp2 may have been me manually misconfiguring something. If so I think we can drop that back to high | 08:13 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: (sure, i meant more generally think about it and then we can discuss, perhaps we need a spec(s)) | 08:13 |
| tchaypo | +bug/1374626 - changing uids - owned by spamaps - | 08:14 |
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| GheRivero | we never discuss that in the summit. It's a hard topic | 08:15 |
| tchaypo | Yeah. I’ll ping spamaps and ask for an update on the bug | 08:15 |
| greghaynes | We had a good ml discussion about that a while back, im not sure if any progress was made on implementing it | 08:16 |
| greghaynes | but yes, clint or ng would probably know that | 08:16 |
| tchaypo | https://review.openstack.org/136894 just landed which should close off https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1394956 | 08:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1394956 in tripleo "ConfigFileValueError: IP address cannot be an empty string" [Critical,Fix committed] | 08:16 |
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| StevenK | \o/ | 08:17 |
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| tchaypo | Switching tracks slightly - I’m looking at the list of things the bot is complaining about | 08:18 |
| tchaypo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1391218 | 08:18 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1391218 in tripleo "Configuration Dependent on HAProxy" [High,In progress] | 08:18 |
| tchaypo | had no importance, so I’ve set it to high | 08:18 |
| greghaynes | hrm, I dont think thats a high, I think thats just an issue where were bad at naming things | 08:19 |
| StevenK | Yes, triage involves *both* Importance and Status | 08:19 |
| StevenK | greghaynes: Then fix it, dear Henry? | 08:19 |
| * greghaynes will comment on bug | 08:19 | |
| tchaypo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1387061 is unassigned and has no priority | 08:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1387061 in tripleo "deploy under cloud failure due to pacemaker " [Undecided,New] | 08:20 |
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| tchaypo | I’m not sure what to do with that. | 08:22 |
| tchaypo | any suggestions? | 08:22 |
| GheRivero | I can take a look to it after the meeting | 08:22 |
| tchaypo | thanks ghe | 08:23 |
| tchaypo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1393643 had an assignee but no priority, I’ve set it to high | 08:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1393643 in tripleo "haproxy start failed loop with 'Starting proxy horizon: cannot bind socket'" [High,New] | 08:23 |
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| StevenK | tchaypo: You need to move it from New as well | 08:24 |
| tchaypo | same with https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1391412 - i wish jiangfei was still around, because i think i hit the same issue myself this morning. I’ll follow up on that | 08:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1391412 in tripleo "devtest deploy overcloud successfully,but there have one baremetal in Maintenance state" [Undecided,New] | 08:24 |
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| StevenK | If they stay New, the untriaged bot will keep bringing it up | 08:25 |
| tchaypo | thanks StevenK | 08:25 |
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| tchaypo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1387487 seems to be tuskar, so I’m changing the component | 08:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1387487 in tripleo "tripleo-image-elements/elements/tuskar-ui /os-refresh-config /post-configure.d/101-tuskar-ui needs authentication from Keystone" [Undecided,New] | 08:26 |
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| StevenK | tchaypo: But it talks about t-i-e? | 08:27 |
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| tchaypo | *hand-waggle* I dunno. I’m open to other suggestions. | 08:28 |
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| tchaypo | d0ugal: any comments? | 08:28 |
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| d0ugal | tchaypo: hmm, I can take a look into it | 08:29 |
| StevenK | So, the metting is half over, can haz moving on? | 08:29 |
| marios_ | d0ugal: yeah so i think this isn't a tuskar one | 08:30 |
| marios_ | StevenK: err sorry i meant tchaypo ^^ | 08:30 |
| StevenK | Hah | 08:30 |
| marios_ | lol | 08:30 |
| * marios_ puts keyboard down, enough | 08:30 | |
| d0ugal | lol | 08:30 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: i mean sounds like this could be about the tuskar-ui element | 08:31 |
| d0ugal | marios_: Yeah, that's what I thought | 08:31 |
| tchaypo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1393304 - I’ve given it an assignee and a priority | 08:32 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1393304 in tripleo "create-nodes failure for customised pool" [High,Confirmed] | 08:32 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: will try and circle back to +bug/1387487 later this week | 08:32 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: Looks good, re that bug | 08:32 |
| tchaypo | yes, let’s move on. Do we have any other criticals that need to be discussed? | 08:32 |
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| tchaypo | #info There's a new dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard" | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 08:33 |
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| tchaypo | Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 : | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | Average wait time: 6 days, 15 hours, 58 minutes | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | 1st quartile wait time: 0 days, 19 hours, 58 minutes | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | Median wait time: 4 days, 20 hours, 39 minutes | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | 3rd quartile wait time: 7 days, 6 hours, 53 minutes | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | which is great. | 08:34 |
| tchaypo | Queue growth in the last 30 days: 49 (1.6/day) | 08:34 |
| tchaypo | not so great. | 08:34 |
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| tchaypo | As per discussion at mid-cycle, we’re planning to find 5 reviews that need help and assign them to people for action, whether that’s shepherding them to completion or marking them as abandoned. | 08:35 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: Change the meeting topic? | 08:35 |
| StevenK | Since it's still bugs, but you've moved on | 08:35 |
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| tchaypo | #topic reviews | 08:36 |
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| tchaypo | whee. | 08:36 |
| tchaypo | I can’t find the link we used two weeks ago to find reviews to assign, and it seems like last week they brushed past it | 08:37 |
| StevenK | hashaction tchaypo to bookmark a link on the wiki ... ? | 08:37 |
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| tchaypo | #action tchaypo to follow up to list about finding old reviews | 08:38 |
| tchaypo | I think we used the “based on latest revision” on http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 08:38 |
| tchaypo | 19 days, 14 hours, 43 minutes https://review.openstack.org/133094 (Specify a signal transport for the SwiftStorageDeployment) | 08:39 |
| tchaypo | 15 days, 21 hours, 6 minutes https://review.openstack.org/133435 (Don't replace OS::Neutron::Port on update of undercloud) | 08:39 |
| tchaypo | 15 days, 18 hours, 43 minutes https://review.openstack.org/118220 (Added a MySQL logrotate configuration) | 08:39 |
| tchaypo | 14 days, 14 hours, 56 minutes https://review.openstack.org/133755 (Tuskar role components spec) | 08:39 |
| tchaypo | 13 days, 14 hours, 53 minutes https://review.openstack.org/133554 (Add Overview subsection to Proposed Change section) | 08:39 |
| tchaypo | Could we get some volunteers to push those along? | 08:40 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: just landed the #/c/133435/ | 08:40 |
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| tchaypo | woo | 08:41 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: /133094 has been rechecked | 08:41 |
| marios_ | re the logrotate one, alexis comments are outstanding (graham are those suggestions required?) | 08:42 |
| marios_ | #/c/118220/ | 08:42 |
| tchaypo | Given the time I think we need to move on | 08:42 |
| tchaypo | #topic Projects needing releases | 08:42 |
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| tchaypo | volunteer? | 08:42 |
| marios_ | o/ i can do it, though i'd prefer someone new to learn | 08:42 |
| marios_ | (and I can help them) | 08:42 |
| tchaypo | i believe StevenK has been wanting to do it for a while, but would need to be given permissions so he can do it | 08:43 |
| marios_ | i can give perms if he wanted to do so this week | 08:43 |
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| StevenK | Sure, why not | 08:44 |
| greghaynes | its super easy, you can also ping me if you need info on how | 08:44 |
| tchaypo | #topic CD Cloud status | 08:44 |
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| StevenK | I can look at it tomorrow if marios_ grants access tonight | 08:45 |
| marios_ | StevenK: exactly what greghaynes said, you will wonder what the issue was about | 08:45 |
| marios_ | StevenK: feel free to ping | 08:45 |
| tchaypo | hp2 is an ongoing hamster wheel, every time I work around one bug I find another. | 08:45 |
| StevenK | I'm not sure if hp1 is being used yet | 08:46 |
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| tchaypo | This is an example of something where I feel like a weekly update email would give us more value - there’s really nothing to discuss in the meeting | 08:47 |
| tchaypo | Same for CI, so I’m going to jump to | 08:47 |
| tchaypo | #topic Tuskar | 08:47 |
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| tchaypo | marios_: I here tripleo people have been shoving bugs that have nothing to do with you over the fence and trying to make them your problem. how do you feel about that? | 08:48 |
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| marios_ | tchaypo: sorry was distracted momentarily, reads back | 08:48 |
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| marios_ | tchaypo: heh, what do you mean? | 08:48 |
| marios_ | oh you mean with the tie one :) | 08:49 |
| tchaypo | yes :) | 08:49 |
| marios_ | i've only had 3 shots of espresso so forgive me | 08:49 |
| marios_ | StevenK: you should now have the necessary perms for release | 08:50 |
| StevenK | \o/ | 08:50 |
| * marios_ imagines what he would look like with a perm | 08:50 | |
| tchaypo | Any other tuskar news? :p | 08:50 |
| StevenK | marios_: The 80's are calling | 08:51 |
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| shardy | tuskar-api support is coming to devstack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131218/ | 08:51 |
| shardy | If anyone's interested in hacking on it via devstack ;) | 08:52 |
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| tchaypo | Huzzah! | 08:52 |
| marios_ | shardy: that's excellent | 08:52 |
| d0ugal | Awesome | 08:52 |
| tchaypo | Sorry to rush things along, but I know gfidente has a one-off item and we’re running out of time | 08:52 |
| shardy | personally I found it more convenient for quick tests and hacking vs devtest | 08:52 |
| StevenK | But devtest is fast | 08:52 |
| gfidente | not a very long one though, no worries | 08:53 |
| tchaypo | #topic specs | 08:53 |
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| tchaypo | Anything? | 08:53 |
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| StevenK | Mind you, I have eight cores and 24GiB of RAM | 08:53 |
| gfidente | yes on specs | 08:53 |
| gfidente | the cinder/ha stuff, I started pushing some template/tie changes | 08:53 |
| gfidente | I updated the spec too after summit but isn't approved yet, | 08:53 |
| gfidente | so please leave there your comments or upvote it | 08:54 |
| gfidente | (the spec) | 08:54 |
| gfidente | https://review.openstack.org/101237 | 08:54 |
| tchaypo | link? | 08:54 |
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| tchaypo | thanks | 08:54 |
| StevenK | #link https://review.openstack.org/101237 | 08:54 |
| StevenK | ... I think? | 08:54 |
| tchaypo | #info https://review.openstack.org/101237 (spec for cinder/ha stuff) desperately needs reviews | 08:55 |
| tchaypo | #topic open discussion | 08:55 |
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| gfidente | the one-off topic I had is, again cinder/ha, but this time I'm talking about my actual code submissions | 08:56 |
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| gfidente | do we want cinder/ceph be the default for controlscale>1 ? to test it in CI ? with an isolated ceph-osd node or with ceph-osd running on controllers too ? | 08:56 |
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| StevenK | I think that should be on the list for a wider audience | 08:57 |
| gfidente | better to send email to the list maybe ? | 08:57 |
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| gfidente | okay :) | 08:57 |
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| gfidente | so for people interested, you could track progress here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/tripleo-kilo-cinder-ha | 08:58 |
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| StevenK | Hmm, where has tchaypo gone | 09:00 |
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| tchaypo | #endmeeting | 09:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 26 09:01:11 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-11-26-08.04.html | 09:01 |
| gfidente | :) | 09:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-11-26-08.04.txt | 09:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-11-26-08.04.log.html | 09:01 |
| GheRivero | :) | 09:01 |
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| tchaypo | I thought we could try for another two hours | 09:01 |
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| StevenK | Hah | 09:01 |
| StevenK | Thanks guys | 09:01 |
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| Swami | hi dvr folks | 15:00 |
| Swami | ping mrsmith | 15:00 |
| Swami | ping vivek | 15:00 |
| Swami | #startmeeting distributed-virtual-router | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 26 15:01:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: distributed-virtual-router)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 15:01 |
| Swami | #topic Agenda | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: distributed-virtual-router)" | 15:01 | |
| Swami | DVR technical debts | 15:02 |
| Swami | 1. VLAN Support for DVR | 15:02 |
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| Swami | 2. VPNaaS support for DVR | 15:02 |
| Swami | 3. Migration of Legacy routers to DVR | 15:02 |
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| Swami | 4. HA for Service Node | 15:03 |
| Swami | 5. DVR to work with IPv6 in neutron | 15:03 |
| Swami | 6. L3 Agent Refactor | 15:03 |
| Swami | 7. Agent Restart | 15:03 |
| Swami | 8. Distributed DHCP | 15:04 |
| Swami | 9. Functional and Scenario Tests | 15:04 |
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| Swami | 10. Firewall as a Service East-West | 15:04 |
| Swami | 11. Performance tuning. | 15:04 |
| Swami | There are more items in the list that can be achieved in the Kilo time frame. | 15:05 |
| Swami | But based on the Kilo design summit and the items prioritized we will choose the high priority items and try to finish it by Kilo. | 15:06 |
| Swami | #topic Legacy to DVR Migration | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Legacy to DVR Migration (Meeting topic: distributed-virtual-router)" | 15:06 | |
| Swami | mrsmith: are you here | 15:06 |
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| Swami | This patch to migrate from Legacy to DVR routers got merged couple of days back. | 15:07 |
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| Swami | Rajeev: hi | 15:08 |
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| Rajeev | Hi Swami | 15:08 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105855/ | 15:09 |
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| Swami | This is the link to the migration patch that got merged. | 15:09 |
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| Swami | There is an additional patch to go along with the migration that will validate the services before migration. That patch is up for review. | 15:10 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123273/ | 15:11 |
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| Swami | that's all from the migration of legacy to dvr routers. | 15:11 |
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| Swami | So one of the item from our backlog list can be marked as done. | 15:12 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: great job for working on this migration patch. | 15:12 |
| Rajeev | Swami: mrsmith: Great work | 15:12 |
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| Swami | #topic DVR to work with IPv6 | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DVR to work with IPv6 (Meeting topic: distributed-virtual-router)" | 15:13 | |
| Swami | Rajeev: any update on this | 15:13 |
| Rajeev | we have couple of patches up for review | 15:13 |
| Rajeev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134676/ | 15:13 |
| haleyb | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136947/ | 15:14 |
| Swami | haleyb: hi | 15:14 |
| Rajeev | These enable IPv6 with DVR | 15:14 |
| haleyb | hi swami | 15:14 |
| Rajeev | for devstack | 15:14 |
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| Rajeev | haleyb: HI and thanks | 15:14 |
| haleyb | I will file another bug for the duplicate ip rule issue, since this happens before this is well | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: is this related to IPv6? | 15:15 |
| haleyb | no, just a bug rajeev noticed | 15:15 |
| haleyb | i was trying to fold it into my patch, but time is short this week | 15:16 |
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| Swami | ok, then go ahead and file the bug in launchpad and we can take it from there. | 15:16 |
| Swami | haleyb: sounds good. | 15:16 |
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| Swami | So with these two patches up, will this solve turning on IPv6 with DVR. | 15:17 |
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| haleyb | I think we still might need a plan for optimizing IPv6 w/DVR in Kilo. There was a blueprint filed by robert, but it needs a little work. | 15:17 |
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| Rajeev | Swami: there are quite a few things being worked out in Ipv6 group | 15:18 |
| Rajeev | This patch enables initial deployment with devstack | 15:18 |
| Swami | But then we do have some dependencies on the IPv6 team. | 15:18 |
| Rajeev | so that further dev can be done | 15:18 |
| haleyb | Swami: it should get it working, but as rajeev said, there are some other IPv6 things to get working before we claim victory | 15:18 |
| Swami | Are these patches a candidate for backport to Juno Stable. | 15:19 |
| haleyb | Rajeev: if you haven't read roberts spec, please do, or maybe we have to create another | 15:19 |
| Swami | haleyb: do you have the link, can you post it here for us to track. | 15:19 |
| Rajeev | haleyb: will take a look at it | 15:20 |
| Rajeev | after the holidays | 15:20 |
| haleyb | Swami: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136878/ is the IPv6/DVR spec | 15:20 |
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| Swami | haleyb: thanks for the link | 15:22 |
| haleyb | Swami: as far as backport, they are pretty contained so could be done | 15:22 |
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| Swami | haleyb: Rajeev : thanks for the update | 15:22 |
| Swami | Moving on to the next agenda topic | 15:22 |
| Swami | #topic VLAN support for DVR | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "VLAN support for DVR (Meeting topic: distributed-virtual-router)" | 15:23 | |
| Swami | I don't see vivek in here. | 15:23 |
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| Swami | vivek is currently working on the VLAN support for DVR. | 15:23 |
| Swami | He posted wip patch | 15:24 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129884/ | 15:24 |
| Swami | I need to check with vivek on the progress. | 15:25 |
| Swami | he also had a spec for VLAN support | 15:26 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131800/ | 15:26 |
| Swami | Ok I can collect the status from him later and will update next week. | 15:26 |
| Swami | Moving on to the next topic. | 15:26 |
| Swami | #topic VPNaaS support for DVR | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "VPNaaS support for DVR (Meeting topic: distributed-virtual-router)" | 15:27 | |
| Swami | I worked on a wip patch for VPNaaS support for DVR. | 15:27 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127133/ | 15:28 |
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| Swami | This patch had some issues and i have fixed it and the VPN is working along with DVR in the service node. | 15:28 |
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| Swami | I will push another wip today with the changes and I am also working on the UT for this patch. | 15:29 |
| Swami | So this should be all done by next week. | 15:29 |
| Swami | #topic L3 Agent Refactor | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "L3 Agent Refactor (Meeting topic: distributed-virtual-router)" | 15:29 | |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin has posted a spec for the L3 agent refactoring | 15:30 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131535/ | 15:30 |
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| Swami | The team to work on the L3 agent refactoring will be amuller, mrsmith, carl_baldwin and probably rajeev | 15:31 |
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| Swami | This is work in progress and carl_baldwin has some patches out there for the L3 agent refactoring. | 15:32 |
| Swami | Moving on to the next topic | 15:32 |
| Swami | #topic Functional test and Scenario test | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Functional test and Scenario test (Meeting topic: distributed-virtual-router)" | 15:33 | |
| Swami | I brought in this topic now is because it is related to the l3 agent refactor. | 15:33 |
| Swami | Before we handle any major change in L3 agent refactor we have to complete the functional tests for the DVR. | 15:33 |
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| Swami | Yesterday we had a meeting with marun, amuller, adolfo, rajeev, mrsmith and carl_baldwin regarding the testing approach. | 15:34 |
| Swami | The plan is the first work on the functional test. Adolfo will be working on it and will push the patch upstream for review. | 15:35 |
| Swami | Then once the functional tests are completed, then we will move on to the scenarion test in tempest. This has some dependencies, so we will help the community to speed up the process. | 15:35 |
| Swami | Also we want to review the test plan based on either scenario or functional and move it to the right modules. | 15:36 |
| Swami | The team mentioned above will keep track and review it until a proper process is in place in the community for reviewing the test plan. | 15:37 |
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| Swami | #topic L3 HA and DVR | 15:38 |
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| Swami | Rajeev: do you want to give an update on this | 15:38 |
| Rajeev | mrsmith and I are looking into HA for DVR | 15:39 |
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| Rajeev | this would address the SNAT HA because rest of the functionality is distributed already | 15:40 |
| Swami | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DVR/ServiceNode-HA | 15:40 |
| Rajeev | Currently, L3-HA is not working with L2POP, this will be a blocker for us | 15:41 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365476 | 15:41 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1365476 in neutron "HA routers interact badly with l2pop" [High,In progress] | 15:41 |
| safchain | Rajeev, Swami Hi | 15:42 |
| safchain | yes working it | 15:42 |
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| Rajeev | safchain: Thanks | 15:42 |
| Swami | safchain: Yes saw your activity in the launchpad. | 15:43 |
| safchain | Rajeev, the main issue here is to have port/multiple host binding | 15:43 |
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| Swami | safchain: thanks, it would be great if have fix for it, while we will be working on the other aspects of the Service node HA. | 15:43 |
| safchain | so more a work around ml2 | 15:43 |
| Rajeev | safchain: ok, anything you can draw from how DVR handles L2POP | 15:43 |
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| safchain | Rajeev, not for now but I'll ping you if needed | 15:44 |
| Swami | safchain: do you have a wip patch that we can use for our testing or are you still working on it. | 15:44 |
| safchain | Swami, still working on it | 15:44 |
| Rajeev | it seems DVR has a similar situation of same port on multiple nodes | 15:44 |
| safchain | Rajeev, yes you added a special table for that | 15:45 |
| safchain | Rajeev, ? | 15:45 |
| Swami | safchain: Ok we will wait for your response then. | 15:45 |
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| Swami | safchain: Yes vivek added a port binding table in the ml2 that handles a single port being used in multiple hosts. | 15:46 |
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| safchain | Swami, yes so there will be a kind of overlap here, so i'll check how to address that | 15:46 |
| Rajeev | safchain: the router ports appear on multiple nodes with the same MAC address. From your prev. comment it looks like you have seen into it | 15:47 |
| safchain | Rajeev, yes | 15:47 |
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| Swami | safchain: if you need any help ping vivek for it. | 15:47 |
| safchain | Swami, ok thx | 15:48 |
| Rajeev | safchain: sounds good. drop an email if you need more info | 15:48 |
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| safchain | sure, i'll do | 15:48 |
| Swami | ok, sounds good. | 15:49 |
| Rajeev | Swami: that is all on HA that I know of | 15:49 |
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| Swami | Here is the link to the wiki that we maintain to share the ideas on knowledge with the HA team. | 15:50 |
| Swami | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DVR/ServiceNode-HA | 15:50 |
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| Swami | moving on to the next topic | 15:51 |
| Swami | #topic Firewall as a Service East West with DVR | 15:51 |
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| Swami | We had some preliminary talk with the FWaaS team in Paris. | 15:51 |
| Swami | there were two ideas that we had to implement the East-West routing for DVR. | 15:51 |
| Swami | The first one would be to route the return traffic back into the qr and the forward it to the VMs. | 15:52 |
| Swami | The second one will be like a bump in the wire, to add another bridge in between the br-int and the br-tun and apply the firewall rules in there. | 15:52 |
| Swami | I have an action item to send a high level picture on our proposal to the FWaaS team. | 15:53 |
| Swami | I will talk to them today in their FWaaS IRC meeting. | 15:53 |
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| Swami | #topic Documentation | 15:54 |
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| Swami | We will be working with the documentation team to review the DVR documentation. | 15:54 |
| Swami | The DVR documentation will be included in the networking guide and we will be in the reviewers list to review the document. | 15:54 |
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| Swami | I am currently working with Matt Kassawara, Phil Hopkins, Edgar Magana and Elke Vorheis to provide our feedback on the DVR documentation. | 15:56 |
| Swami | So we are almost at the end of the hour. | 15:56 |
| Swami | #topic Open Discussions | 15:56 |
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| Swami | Any other topics | 15:57 |
| Swami | If no other topics, we can end the session. | 15:58 |
| Swami | Thanks everyone for joining the meeting. | 15:58 |
| Swami | We did not have enough time to do the bug scrum, probably we will do it next week. | 15:58 |
| Swami | See you all next week. Bye | 15:58 |
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| Swami | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 26 15:58:47 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-11-26-15.01.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-11-26-15.01.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-11-26-15.01.log.html | 15:58 |
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| rkukura | hi ML2’ers! | 15:59 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 15:59 |
| Sukhdev | Hello everybody | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | hello | 15:59 |
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| yamahata | hello | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | We'll give a minute or so for others join in | 16:00 |
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| mlavalle | Sukhdev: you liked Venice? | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | mlavalle: that was a blast :-) | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | Sukhdev: :-) | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | I guess we should start | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 26 16:02:51 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Agenda | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | Two announcements - | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | There is mid-cycle code sprint in first week of Dec | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/NeutronKiloSprint | 16:04 |
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| mlavalle | Sukhdev: it is actually the second week :-) | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | Some of the folks from this sub-committee are participating - feel free to sign up if you can spare time | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | mlavalle: thanks for correcting me | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | It is Dec 8-10 | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | Kilo release schedule is out - | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | Anybody have any other announcements? | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Action items from last week | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | We have two items on agenda - based upon last week's discussions. | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | Hope the owners are present | 16:07 |
| irenab | hi, sorry for being late | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Rate limit discussion (QoS) | 16:08 |
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| irenab | I wanted to raise this topic | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | irenab: please take the stage and explain | 16:08 |
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| irenab | What we plan in relation to SR-IOV is to enable setting of rate limit per SR-IOV VF, which is neutron port | 16:09 |
| irenab | Initially considered to use already proposed patches for QoS (by Sean Collins) | 16:09 |
| irenab | But actually it is more than we need for SR-IOV. So another alternative is ML2 extension | 16:10 |
| irenab | Ability to set rate limit on neutron port | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | irenab: do you have spec/BP for this? | 16:11 |
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| irenab | Not yet, probably next week. So the first question is what would you guys suggest regarding the API | 16:11 |
| irenab | QoS Extension or Ml2 port rate limit extension | 16:12 |
| irenab | Does it makes sense for other ML2 drivers as well? | 16:12 |
| irenab | the second question is regarding get_device_details extention to propogate additional value (from port extension) | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: is this being addressed through the policy framework which you have been working on? | 16:13 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: Not in GBP, if that is what you are refering to | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: yes referring to GBP | 16:14 |
| rkukura | The 2nd phase of the extension driver work would address making sure the limit, if set, was enforced by the port binding, even if some drivers didn’t understand it. | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | irenab: please go on | 16:15 |
| rkukura | But we haven’t decided whether that will go in kilo or not. | 16:15 |
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| irenab | rkukura: can you please elaborate on what is 2nd phase | 16:16 |
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| irenab | I am talking about tx_rate_limit and bw_guarantee for traffic, not for neutron resources | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | irenab: 1st phase was in juno and enabled extension drivers to define attributes on core resources | 16:17 |
| rkukura | but nothing guarantees the port binding provide the semantics implied by the values of those extended attributes | 16:17 |
| rkukura | evolving ML2 to enforce those semantics is the 2nd phase | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | irenab: These would be extended attributes on the port resource, wouldn’t they? | 16:18 |
| irenab | rkukura: yes | 16:18 |
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| irenab | And seems this is already possible with phase 1 | 16:18 |
| rkukura | Its possible as long as all configured MDs that can bind understand the extension | 16:19 |
| irenab | What is required is to propagate the value to L2 agent on compute node to enforce it | 16:19 |
| rkukura | irenab: Sounds like the MD that understands the extension and binds the port would need to pass the info to the agent, right? | 16:19 |
| irenab | rkukura: I see. So this maybe a problem to mix then if not all understand the extension? | 16:20 |
| rkukura | So we probably need to have the get_device_details call into the bound MD(s) as we had discussed a while ago. | 16:20 |
| rkukura | We seem to need two things: 1) the ability for the MD to propagate the info to the agent (or controller or whatever) | 16:21 |
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| irenab | rkukura: This is exactly what I had in mind | 16:21 |
| rkukura | and 2) the framework to make sure the port binding enforces the extension semantics | 16:21 |
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| irenab | rkukura: or ignores it if not relevant | 16:21 |
| rkukura | We can live without 2 as long as the deployment only configures MDs that understand the EDs that are configured. | 16:22 |
| matrohon | i'm +1 on using get_device_detail to propagate extensions info! | 16:22 |
| rkukura | irenab: agreed - that’s why the proposal is to let the ED decide whether the value requires enforcement | 16:22 |
| rkukura | +1 | 16:22 |
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| irenab | So on the general approach, seems beter go with ML2 extension? | 16:23 |
| rkukura | Is the QoS work going forward in kilo? | 16:23 |
| rkukura | Or is it on hold? | 16:23 |
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| irenab | I talked to Sean, and seems he is not optimistic regarding this in Kilo with all rework in general | 16:24 |
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| matrohon | I understood that sc68al proposal will be merged with only rate_limiting | 16:24 |
| irenab | I tend to choose dedicated ML2 extension | 16:24 |
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| irenab | matrohon: I do not think he resubmitted this spec for Kilo | 16:25 |
| matrohon | salv-orlando proposed to rename it rate-limiting extension! | 16:25 |
| virtuallynathan_ | is there a link to the proposal? | 16:25 |
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| matrohon | irenab: me neither :( | 16:26 |
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| matrohon | it was an agreement during friday afternoon design session, so no etherpad | 16:26 |
| irenab | but in ML2 area, we still need ML2 extension for binding port and QoS policy | 16:26 |
| salv-orlando | folks, if you wish it to be included in the kilo release cycle you need to resubmit the spec… it’s not a bureaucratic thing, it’s that we need to assess priorities also according to how are active are the various work items | 16:26 |
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| virtuallynathan_ | matrohon: ah ok | 16:27 |
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| salv-orlando | also I suggested rate limiting because QoS was attracting so much interest that it became something impossible to define. And definetely something a lot bigger than what we need, which is pretty mucj just rate limiting | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | salv-orlando: irenab said she is going to submit a spec next week | 16:27 |
| irenab | I'll recehck with sc68al, but tend to go for rate limit ML2 extension and not QoS Service | 16:27 |
| matrohon | salv-orlando : ^^ can you sum up the agreement you had with sean about Qos extension? | 16:27 |
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| salv-orlando | it’s just to resubmit his spec as it is - just scoped down to rate-limiting only. | 16:28 |
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| manishg_ | like salv-orlando said, QoS has a lot of implications | 16:28 |
| irenab | salv-orlando: if this is only rate limit, why need to go via QoS Resource? | 16:28 |
| rkukura | salv-orlando: Does it extend port with a rate limit attribute? | 16:28 |
| salv-orlando | looking forward to review the spec. Keep in minding SPD and SAD for neutron | 16:28 |
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| salv-orlando | those are questions you should ask sc68cal. He owns the current proposal. | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | irenab: can you please take this offline and submit the spec accordingly? | 16:29 |
| irenab | OK, so seems we can come to the discussion once spec will be out for review next week | 16:29 |
| irenab | Sukhdev: sure, thanks | 16:30 |
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| rkukura | I’d suggest irenab contact sc68cal and see if what she proposes is at least a start on what he needs | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | In the interest of time - lets move on to the next topic | 16:30 |
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| irenab | rkukura: agree | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: discuss port security | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | this is the second action item | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | I do not see the owner for this topic present here | 16:31 |
| yamahata | hi | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: hi | 16:31 |
| yamahata | I think portsecurity extension | 16:31 |
| yamahata | Now -2 on the spec was removed by Kyle as the related parties agreed to unite. | 16:32 |
| yamahata | So we are now able to make progress. | 16:32 |
| yamahata | To be precise, I haven't received any reply from Ian. | 16:32 |
| rkukura | yamahata: Is this the existing portsecurity extension API, or a different one? | 16:33 |
| yamahata | But other cisco developers will arbitrate with him. | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: link, please? | 16:33 |
| yamahata | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99873/ | 16:33 |
| yamahata | rkukura: yes | 16:33 |
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| yamahata | So the tech details can be discussed there. | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | Do we want to discuss it now or shall we put it on next week's agenda? - have few critical things to cover | 16:35 |
| yamahata | I'm fine with the next week. | 16:35 |
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| Sukhdev | Is everybody OK with that? | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: can you put this on next week's agenda? | 16:36 |
| yamahata | anyway we can continue discussion with spec review. | 16:36 |
| yamahata | Sukhdev: sure | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | OK moving on | 16:36 |
| rkukura | sounds good to me | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | #topic Bugs | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | Shiv is not here today | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | anybody wants to discuss any critical bug? | 16:37 |
| * Sukhdev waiting | 16:37 | |
| Sukhdev | Moving along then…. | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | I am going to skip the specs section and go to the next import topic | 16:38 |
| matrohon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116924/20 | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | matrohon: you made it :-):-) | 16:38 |
| matrohon | if anybody wants to review ^^ | 16:38 |
| matrohon | Shukdev : :) | 16:39 |
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| Sukhdev | matrohon: I remember discussing this in the past | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | matrohon: anything specific you have in mind? | 16:39 |
| matrohon | Shukdev : it was a terirble mess :) | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | matrohon: :-) | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | I think we need this fix, right? | 16:41 |
| matrohon | it's important for ML2 mech driver | 16:41 |
| matrohon | whitout this they are not away of gw port removal when a router gets deleted | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | matrohon: I am bit confused - if I do delete_router() I see delete_port() on my MD | 16:42 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Since deleting the router deletes its ports, the MDs should see this. | 16:43 |
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| matrohon | Shukdev : you shouldn't be aware of the the ext gw port | 16:43 |
| matrohon | Shukdev : you shouldn't be aware of the ext gw port removal | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | matrohon: my bad - I was not thinking about gateway port | 16:43 |
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| Sukhdev | yes, agree | 16:44 |
| rkukura | Why is the gateway port special? | 16:44 |
| rkukura | If the gw port is deleted, MDs still need to see this | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: good question | 16:44 |
| rkukura | I think the router cannot be deleted until the “internal” networks are removed, so their ports are already gone | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev | I can test this and report back, if you like | 16:45 |
| matrohon | rkukura : +1 | 16:45 |
| matrohon | but you canb delete a router with an ext gw port on it | 16:45 |
| matrohon | and it deletes the ext gw port | 16:45 |
| manishg_ | I had reviewed something like this. My questions - why is gw port special, and why is there check specifically to check with vpn service only... and not a generic mechanism. | 16:45 |
| rkukura | Lets keep in mind that not all deployments use the external bridge for the external network - they can use any normal provider network | 16:45 |
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| rkukura | I think the historic behavior is that deleting the router removes it from the external network, hence auto-deleting the gw port is required | 16:47 |
| matrohon | rkukura : that's the way I understand it too | 16:47 |
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| matrohon | but I agree that forbiding the router deletion if any port is still attached would make more sense | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | matrohon: So, the question is - do we block router_delete() or ensure that MDs know when a GW port is auto deleted? Did I get it right? | 16:49 |
| rkukura | matrohon: agree in principle, but that would be an incompatible change. I think it is important that this auto-deletion is done via the core plugin rather than directly via the DB. | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I seem to agree with your assertion | 16:51 |
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| matrohon | Shukdev : as rkukura just said, blocking the router deletion would be incompatible | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | Looks like we are almost there - | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | We can now matrohon patch to match with this understaing | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | ^review^ | 16:52 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: do we want to see if the team is OK with the proposed charter? | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | Folks - we are running out of time - need to really move on | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: yes | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: ML2 Charter for Kilo | 16:53 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks, Bob put our the charter for the ML2 sub-comittee for Kilo | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ML2_Subteam_Charter | 16:54 |
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| Sukhdev | Did you have a chance to review it? | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | Do we all agree with it - I reviewed it and liked it | 16:54 |
| rkukura | If the team is OK with this, I’ll move it to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronSubteamCharters later today | 16:54 |
| yamamoto | it looks reasonable to me. | 16:55 |
| mlavalle | rkukura: I read it and seems very comprehensive to me | 16:55 |
| irenab | rkukura: +1 | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | As rkukura says, we have an action item to move it to the wiki - wanted to get everybody's agreement before doing it | 16:55 |
| rcurran | looks good to me ... are you looking for names to go along w/ the md's? | 16:55 |
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| Sukhdev | Shall we say we all agree? | 16:55 |
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| matrohon | l2 agent refactoring will be homed in another subgroup? | 16:56 |
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| mlavalle | matrohon: yes, rosella is writing a spec for that | 16:56 |
| matrohon | mlavalle : thanks; | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | #agreed: Team agrees to the ML2 charter for KIlo as listed in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ML2_Subteam_Charter | 16:57 |
| rkukura | mlavalle, matrohon: I’m not sure if the refactoring is the same as the modularization we have been discussing for several cycles, so we should coordinate these efforts | 16:57 |
| manishg_ | mlavalle: which subgroup? | 16:57 |
| manishg_ | Sukhdev: +1 on charter. | 16:57 |
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| rkukura | Please add any comments/corrections to the etherpad soon before I copy it | 16:58 |
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| manishg_ | rkukura: at the summit l2 modular agent was discussed. I was assuming 'refactor' was loosely implying that | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | We are almost out of time | 16:58 |
| manishg_ | but good to get the clarification. | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | rkukura: ok, i'd be happy to help with that | 16:58 |
| rkukura | manishg_: agreed | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | Please ensure to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134680/ | 16:59 |
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| Sukhdev | This spec talks about the vendor code split - I wanted to spend more time on this, but, we are out of time - so, please review this spec and post your comments | 16:59 |
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| rkukura | there is also an email thread on that | 17:00 |
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| sadasu | do we have to say in the ML2 charter that we will have work to do based on what happens in that spec? | 17:00 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: correct - unfortunately, I do not have link handy | 17:00 |
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| rkukura | sadasu: The draft charter does refer to this | 17:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Time is up folks - thanks for attending | 17:01 |
| sadasu | rkukura: ok...now I see it | 17:01 |
| manishg_ | thanks. | 17:01 |
| irenab | thanks | 17:01 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev! | 17:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
| matrohon | thanks | 17:01 |
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| yamamoto | bye | 17:01 |
| sadasu | +1 for charter | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 26 17:01:58 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-11-26-16.02.html | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-11-26-16.02.txt | 17:02 |
| sadasu | thanks! | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-11-26-16.02.log.html | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 26 17:02:26 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | whos here? | 17:02 |
| betsy | \o | 17:02 |
| vinod | o/ | 17:02 |
| rjrjr | o/ | 17:02 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:02 |
| ekarlso- | i'm here :) | 17:02 |
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| johnbelamaric | hello | 17:02 |
| Anand_ | Anand from ebay/PayPal | 17:03 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:03 |
| jmcbride | o/ | 17:03 |
| pk_ | prabhakhar from Anand's team | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | Kiall is stuck in another meeting, he should be along soon | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #topci Action Items from last week | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | all - check and confirm dates above | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | I think we can push this down a bit until Kiall can join | 17:04 |
| Kiall | Heya | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | oh | 17:04 |
| mugsie | ok, did everyone get to check the dates? | 17:04 |
| Kiall | We've got a green light from HP, not sure exactly who yet, but we'll make it | 17:04 |
| rjrjr | 01/19 - 01/22 | 17:05 |
| mugsie | (for the mid cycle) | 17:05 |
| jmcbride | From Rackspace, the dates are OK, I just need to get approval on the funding. | 17:05 |
| rjrjr | M - Th | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | jmcbride: any idea when you might have a yay or nay? :) | 17:06 |
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| jmcbride | It might be challenging for me to lock down within the next 2 weeks. | 17:06 |
| Kiall | kk.. | 17:07 |
| jmcbride | Worse case (absolute worse) would be that we are only able to send 1 or 2 people (or we just attend remotely). | 17:07 |
| mugsie | ok, so shall we call this as our confirmed mid cycle dates / location then ? I assume the funding issue will take time no matter where or when | 17:07 |
| rjrjr | joe: think you can let us know by 12/10? | 17:07 |
| jmcbride | mugsie: I'm good with that. | 17:07 |
| mugsie | mon 19 - > thurs 21 in Pheonix. | 17:07 |
| mugsie | ok. Great to have this done so soon. | 17:08 |
| Kiall | :) | 17:08 |
| rjrjr | i'll send out a formal invite with location information by Friday. | 17:08 |
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| mugsie | cool | 17:08 |
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| mugsie | when that is in I will put iot on the wiki | 17:08 |
| Anand_ | Ron, I will wok on the budget for the event. no worries | 17:08 |
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| mugsie | #topic Pools - Where are we? (kiall) | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | so, any updates for this? | 17:09 |
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| rjrjr | i pushed code friday and today. | 17:09 |
| mugsie | rjrjr: I saw. Will look today / tomrrow morning hopefully | 17:09 |
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| rjrjr | fixing a few bugs with mdns and adding a 'delay'. | 17:09 |
| mugsie | anything blocking anyone? | 17:09 |
| betsy | Not for me | 17:09 |
| rjrjr | have a few bugs with central, but they shouldn't hold up a review of the code. | 17:10 |
| mugsie | k | 17:10 |
| mugsie | anyother issues with pools? | 17:10 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: I had a quick look an hour or so ago, it looks like were very nearly there.. If it merged as is, would you be upset? (i.e. should I give it a full review in the morning? :)) | 17:10 |
| rjrjr | kiall: that would be idea! 8^) | 17:10 |
| Kiall | KK.. | 17:10 |
| mugsie | #topic Mid-Cycle Dates/Locations/Topics (kiall) | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | i think we can call this done ;) | 17:11 |
| Kiall | I think we can skit this one ;) | 17:11 |
| Kiall | sjip* | 17:11 |
| Kiall | skip* | 17:11 |
| Kiall | -_- | 17:11 |
| mugsie | #topic Record Deletion/Recreation on a PUT - 2014-11-13T17:55:10 at http://bit.ly/1vxa6u3 (timsim) | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Record Deletion/Recreation on a PUT - 2014-11-13T17:55:10 at http://bit.ly/1vxa6u3 (timsim) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:11 | |
| timsim | So we discovered in the course of some SQL testing, it seems that when you modify a recordset with multiple records, it deletes and recreates them. We talked about it in the IRC in that link there, I just wanted to circle back and make sure this is tracked :) | 17:11 |
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| mugsie | timsim: you have the floor | 17:11 |
| Kiall | timsim: Have you looked into a possible fix? | 17:11 |
| rjrjr | timsim: did you open a bug for it? | 17:12 |
| mugsie | best fix (in my mind) JSON+Patch. | 17:12 |
| Kiall | We do handle this in the storage layer, but the way the API layer works effectively breaks it and causes a full delete/create for all the records | 17:12 |
| timsim | I haven't, I seem to remember you saying there was something needed at the API level, but I that's the extent of it. I just wanted to make sure we don't forget about it. I added this item to make sure we're agreed there's a bug, and I'd file a bug for it. | 17:12 |
| mugsie | can we look at a way to do _obj_changed in the API layer? | 17:12 |
| mugsie | I think that is definitly a bufg | 17:13 |
| vinod | Complete disclosure: I borrowed the same piece of code for pool attributes - so pool attributes too has the same issue | 17:13 |
| mugsie | bug* | 17:13 |
| betsy | Also, wanted to add that vinod based the pool_attribute code on this, so they are treated in the same way — ie, any updated causes them to be deleted and recreated | 17:13 |
| Kiall | mugsie: Well, the issue is we build "new" Record objects in the API layer | 17:13 |
| Kiall | those don't have the "id" field, so the storage layer doesn't correlate the existing rows with the "new" Record objects | 17:13 |
| betsy | ah - I was too slow | 17:13 |
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| Kiall | betsy: Dooh, sounds like my dodgy code is spreading ;) | 17:14 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:14 |
| timsim | So if we all agree (it seems like it) I'll file a bug, and we can talk more about it later. | 17:14 |
| mugsie | ok, i think we are agreed | 17:14 |
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| timsim | Action me :P | 17:14 |
| rjrjr | agree | 17:14 |
| Kiall | #action kiall to file bug for delete/recreated issues | 17:14 |
| mugsie | #action timsim file bug for PUT behavior in the API | 17:14 |
| Kiall | lol | 17:14 |
| timsim | hah. | 17:14 |
| Kiall | timsim: you win ;) | 17:14 |
| mugsie | #topic Totalcount metadata field, how/if to deal with the second query(timsim) | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | timsim again ;) | 17:14 |
| timsim | mugsie and I talked about this yesterday | 17:14 |
| timsim | Basically, the totalcount relies on the number of objects returned from storage | 17:15 |
| timsim | and when you paginate, that number is not the *total* count. | 17:15 |
| timsim | So there's going to need to be a second query. | 17:15 |
| timsim | The discussion needed is a. Is that worth it? b. Where should the query happen (completely separate call to storage, somewhere in the SQLA plugin for building list objects) c. Should it be default behavior | 17:16 |
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| mugsie | a - yes b - in SQLA, c - yes | 17:16 |
| mugsie | (IMHO) | 17:16 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:16 |
| betsy | mugsie: +1 | 17:16 |
| mugsie | any other thoughts? | 17:16 |
| timsim | Personally, I'm of the opinion that a. Yes b. Separate call. c. configurable to the operator (or user) but I could be swayed easily :P | 17:16 |
| Kiall | mugsie: +1 | 17:16 |
| Kiall | So - we could update the storage later to do both upon fetching, and attach the total_count to the *List objects | 17:17 |
| mugsie | Kiall: yeah, thats what i think is best | 17:17 |
| Kiall | I had a mockup of that I sent to jaycaz back when he first started that patch | 17:17 |
| timsim | If we want to do all list objects, might as well. | 17:17 |
| Kiall | I wonder if I can still find it | 17:17 |
| timsim | Kiall: that'd be nice. | 17:17 |
| vinod | Kiall: +1 | 17:17 |
| mugsie | timsim: yeah, i think that could be useful for listed objects | 17:17 |
| timsim | Easy enough. | 17:17 |
| mugsie | #action: Kiall give timsim mockup code | 17:17 |
| timsim | Do we want it to be default, non-turn-offable behavior? | 17:17 |
| mugsie | #action: Kiall give timsim mockup code for totalcount | 17:17 |
| vinod | default | 17:18 |
| Kiall | Not sure "#action:" works mugsie ;) | 17:18 |
| timsim | With really large datasets, that might add time to API requests. | 17:18 |
| mugsie | I woudld err on the side of default | 17:18 |
| mugsie | #action Kiall give timsim mockup code for totalcount | 17:18 |
| mugsie | just to make sure | 17:18 |
| Kiall | vinod: so, with LARGE datasets, I think MySQL "solves" that by giving estimated numbers back.. | 17:18 |
| timsim | It also caches that value pretty effectively, so subsequent queries in a given timeframe are much faster. | 17:19 |
| timsim | I'm fine with it being default behavior, if it becomes a problem, we can address it later. | 17:19 |
| timsim | We can move on :) | 17:19 |
| mugsie | ok. are we agreed then? a: we want it, b: SQLA Should do it, c: default, non removable funcxtionality | 17:19 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:20 |
| mugsie | #topic mdns poll_for_serial_number and notify_zone_changed - do we need a delay parameter? (ron) | 17:20 |
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| mugsie | rjrjr: the floor is yuours | 17:20 |
| rjrjr | vinod and i discussed this an hour back on chat. i'll add a delay and push it with the next code push for pool manager. | 17:20 |
| rjrjr | so, we can move on. 8^) | 17:21 |
| mugsie | sweet. any dissent? | 17:21 |
| mugsie | if not.. | 17:21 |
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| Kiall | Happy to move on if they have a solution :) | 17:21 |
| mugsie | #topic Status of Designate Horizon GUI (ron/prabhakhar) | 17:21 |
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| rjrjr | pk is on as well as anand. | 17:21 |
| mugsie | this is kinda me / rjrjr / Anand_ | 17:21 |
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| Kiall | So.. We have a Horizon dashboard at HP, and even approval to OpenSource it, but getting a home for it has proved difficult :) | 17:22 |
| mugsie | ok, we have a panel set, and we need to push out | 17:22 |
| Anand_ | Hi All, I have Prabhakhara dedicated to work on Horizon GUI for designate | 17:22 |
| mugsie | I am going to suggest we create stackforge.designate-dashboard | 17:22 |
| mugsie | stackforge/ | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | Anand_: Interesting.. We really should push the one we have out so we're not re-inventing the week | 17:22 |
| Kiall | wheel* | 17:22 |
| mugsie | unless there is any dissent I will get that repo in the works tonight | 17:23 |
| Anand_ | Ron mentioned me that HP is already working on it. I would love to colloborate | 17:23 |
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| rjrjr | kiall, we want to evaluate the HP donated code and enhance it with the community's input. | 17:23 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: absolutly :) | 17:23 |
| mugsie | rjrjr: cool | 17:23 |
| timsim | Seems like a stackforge repo would be a lovely place for it. | 17:23 |
| Anand_ | Please let me know if we could push the baseline code to stackforge and Prabhakhar could start from there | 17:23 |
| Kiall | The code we haven't isn't amazing ;) | 17:23 |
| mugsie | so, can we say we are agreed on stackforge/designate-dashboard for the timebeing | 17:23 |
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| Anand_ | that's ok. we could make it better and fill the gaps | 17:24 |
| rjrjr | agree on stackforge | 17:24 |
| Kiall | mugsie: Maybe | 17:24 |
| Kiall | The TC want us to put it in contrib/horizon | 17:24 |
| Kiall | (in the designate repo) | 17:24 |
| Anand_ | In fact, Ron created a nice DNS Management app for PayPal | 17:24 |
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| Kiall | The reasoning was to avoid repos which won't last very long | 17:24 |
| mugsie | and i think that is a terrible idea. they objectsed to the openstack/ repo | 17:24 |
| Kiall | The objected to the short-lived repo | 17:24 |
| Anand_ | all PayPal Ops team and Product dev team are usign this today | 17:24 |
| Kiall | Which still happens in stackforge/ | 17:24 |
| Anand_ | for managing DNS infra for critical PayPal business | 17:25 |
| mugsie | ok then. do we want to push the code into contrib then? | 17:25 |
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| mugsie | we need to decide. | 17:25 |
| Kiall | mugsie: FYI - I also think contrib/horizon is a terrible idea, but it's what we've been asked to *at least try make work* | 17:25 |
| Anand_ | if we all agree, I could have Ron to demo the GUI and if everyone likes, we could start the GUI design from that point | 17:25 |
| rjrjr | what are the drawbacks to contrib/horizon? | 17:25 |
| timsim | It can probably work for the short term, someone can talk to the TC if/when there are difficulties? | 17:25 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: reusing any of the Jenkins jobs for testing UI pieces | 17:25 |
| Kiall | timsim: yes, I can if it proves too awkward. | 17:26 |
| mugsie | potentially having the main project blocked when horizon chnages something | 17:26 |
| mugsie | and breaks the tests | 17:26 |
| rjrjr | mugsie: that would be extremely annoying. | 17:26 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:26 |
| Kiall | Yea, another issue.. non-voting can "solve" that if we respect the failures rather than ignoring them | 17:26 |
| Anand_ | unfortunately, we need to write OpenStack GUI in Horizon. is it true for all projects? | 17:26 |
| Anand_ | or pick & choose | 17:27 |
| Kiall | Anand_: Yes, Horizon is the official UI framework | 17:27 |
| mugsie | Anand_: nope. the TC decided (again) the make things different for us | 17:27 |
| rjrjr | how do other projects do this? | 17:27 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: another repo | 17:27 |
| Kiall | -_- | 17:27 |
| mugsie | they have *-dashboard | 17:27 |
| timsim | ...... | 17:27 |
| rjrjr | and they objected to us doing the same? | 17:27 |
| Anand_ | Kiall: Is HP code built on top of Horizon FW? | 17:27 |
| rjrjr | frustrating... | 17:27 |
| mugsie | tbh, the TC should have no input, as we are a program, with full control over our own repos | 17:27 |
| Kiall | Anyway, Let's try the contrib/horizon see if it works, and if not, push for openstack/designate-dashboard again | 17:27 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie push horzion code upstream | 17:28 |
| mugsie | anything else on this? | 17:28 |
| Kiall | mugsie: can you do a quick dump of the code after this meet? | 17:28 |
| rjrjr | appreciate it guys! | 17:28 |
| Anand_ | mugsie: Thanks | 17:28 |
| mugsie | Kiall: see actionm ;) | 17:28 |
| Kiall | (Ideally, getting it into the DevStack VM too so people can try it) | 17:28 |
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| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:28 |
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| Anand_ | pk_: please co-ordinate with mugsie | 17:28 |
| mugsie | anyone have anything else? | 17:28 |
| pk_ | sure | 17:29 |
| rjrjr | what is december 8th date? | 17:29 |
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| timsim | I'd love to have an eye or two on http://docs-draft.openstack.org/30/131530/3/check/gate-designate-specs-docs/e0ad530/doc/build/html/specs/kilo/new-agent.html if anyone had a the time :) | 17:29 |
| Anand_ | Ron, do you have emails or contact number(s) for mugsie | 17:29 |
| rjrjr | sorry, december 8th is looming, what needs to be done by then? | 17:29 |
| Anand_ | ? | 17:29 |
| mugsie | pk_: I will give you a ping after this | 17:29 |
| rjrjr | anand: i do. | 17:29 |
| pk_ | sure | 17:29 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: maybe you mean dec 18th? | 17:29 |
| Kiall | Thats kilo-1 | 17:29 |
| Anand_ | rjrjr: thx | 17:29 |
| Kiall | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 17:29 |
| rjrjr | okay, december 18th. | 17:29 |
| rjrjr | LOL - been working toward december 8th. | 17:30 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:30 |
| Kiall | timsim: I'll review along with rjrjr's poolmgr stuff in the morning | 17:30 |
| rjrjr | what is the expectation with regards to pool manager. | 17:30 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: hah :D | 17:30 |
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| timsim | Kiall: Appreciate it. | 17:30 |
| mugsie | I would like to have it working on a single pool by k-1 | 17:31 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: expectation is it can be used, but might not be the default.. If it falls short, that's still OK | 17:31 |
| mugsie | (pools) | 17:31 |
| rjrjr | okay. we will meet that date. i'd like to be about wrapped up by then myself. 8^) | 17:31 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:31 |
| mugsie | any thing else? | 17:31 |
| Kiall | Yep.. Everyones noticed the rally gate job? | 17:31 |
| Kiall | (I may have brought it up before..) | 17:32 |
| rjrjr | the job that fails... | 17:32 |
| Kiall | Yes.. That one! | 17:32 |
| rjrjr | it says it is a non-voting job! | 17:32 |
| Kiall | It passes for me locally, but fails in the gate.. I believe it's because my PC is faster than the RAX/HP VMs ;) | 17:32 |
| Kiall | Anyway.. Any help figuring our the perf/locking issues causing the fails would be appreciated! | 17:33 |
| rjrjr | i might have time this weekend. i'll let you know. | 17:33 |
| mugsie | cool. anything else before we finish? | 17:33 |
| Kiall | Not from me | 17:33 |
| timsim | I'm good. | 17:33 |
| johnbelamaric | i had a question... | 17:33 |
| mugsie | shoot | 17:33 |
| johnbelamaric | we (Infoblox) have implemented a driver as we discussed at the summit | 17:33 |
| ekarlso- | So, I have a question as well, I need lab rats for v2 client and secondary zones :) | 17:34 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:34 |
| johnbelamaric | we haven't upstreamed it yet but would like to - so I assume we just need a BP for that? | 17:34 |
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| mugsie | yeap, that would be the best route | 17:34 |
| johnbelamaric | also, there are a lot of changes in Kilo - should we expect any major refactoring to get up to that code leevel | 17:34 |
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| Kiall | johnbelamaric: Yep, a BP would be good.. Ability to test would be *great*, that way we can know we're not breaking it :) | 17:35 |
| rjrjr | johnbeamaric: i'm guessing this is a traditional backend driver? | 17:35 |
| mugsie | yes, but it should be doable. there has been alot of code churn though. | 17:35 |
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| rjrjr | or maybe i'm missing what the driver is... | 17:35 |
| johnbelamaric | ok, any pointers would be helpful or we can just start digging in | 17:35 |
| johnbelamaric | yes | 17:35 |
| mugsie | if you want to put in a bp / spec, you can put code up before anything is approved, and we can help guide you | 17:36 |
| Kiall | johnbelamaric: simplest way to create a BP is to create a "stub" on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/ | 17:36 |
| johnbelamaric | ok, great, that would help a lot | 17:36 |
| johnbelamaric | will do | 17:36 |
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| Kiall | then create the detailed BP itself in the designate-specs repoi | 17:36 |
| timsim | johnbelamaric: We're also in #openstack-dns normally if you have questions :) | 17:36 |
| mugsie | just mark the review as WIP | 17:36 |
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| johnbelamaric | k | 17:36 |
| Kiall | Something like this: https://github.com/openstack/designate-specs/blob/master/specs/kilo/secondary-zones.rst | 17:36 |
| Kiall | Ideally, explaining what Infoblox's product does etc for those than don't know :) | 17:37 |
| johnbelamaric | i saw a BP something about "moving PowerDNS backend to MiniDNS" what does that mean exactly? Do new drivers need to integrate with MiniDNS somehow? | 17:37 |
| johnbelamaric | ok | 17:37 |
| mugsie | and, any problems just shout in #openstack-dns ;) | 17:37 |
| johnbelamaric | got it :) | 17:37 |
| mugsie | johnbelamaric: yes, ideally. We talked about you replacing the current SQLA storage backend, as you need to t=be the sourdce of truth | 17:38 |
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| johnbelamaric | mugsie: yes, first BP will just be for a basic backend driver though | 17:38 |
| johnbelamaric | mugsie: still need to study the storage-level one | 17:39 |
| mugsie | ok :) | 17:39 |
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| mugsie | if you want to push up what you have we can help though for the basic one | 17:39 |
| johnbelamaric | mugsie: great, thanks, we can do that | 17:39 |
| mugsie | cool. | 17:39 |
| mugsie | ekarlso-: you had a q? | 17:39 |
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| rjrjr | traditional backend drivers are going to be phased out for pool backend drivers. but, not immediately. mini-dns drivers were for testing mini-dns. | 17:40 |
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| johnbelamaric | rjrjr: ok, so we can move forward with current one and adapt later | 17:41 |
| rjrjr | correct. | 17:41 |
| johnbelamaric | thanks | 17:41 |
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| rjrjr | pool backend drivers are even simpler to code. | 17:41 |
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| rjrjr | <fingers crossed> | 17:41 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:41 |
| johnbelamaric | rjrjr: great! | 17:41 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: well, not for infoblox's case sadly.. (they do some IPAM products, and can't quite fit into that model from memory) | 17:41 |
| rjrjr | hence my <fingers crossed> | 17:42 |
| mugsie | (hence the replace storage thing) | 17:42 |
| Kiall | (I'm basing ^ on conversations from 2 summits ago ;)) | 17:42 |
| johnbelamaric | ah hah | 17:42 |
| johnbelamaric | we'll start with the current driver and see where it goes | 17:42 |
| rjrjr | okay, we'll worry about it at the appropriate time. we should see what johnbelamaric has. | 17:42 |
| Kiall | ++ | 17:42 |
| mugsie | ok. that sounds like a plan. ekarlso- you have the floor | 17:42 |
| ekarlso- | I'd like some feedback on the v2 cli and secondary zones | 17:43 |
| ekarlso- | https://review.openstack.org/133682 < api code, https://review.openstack.org/133683 central / mdns | 17:43 |
| ekarlso- | https://review.openstack.org/133675 < v2 bindings and https://review.openstack.org/133676 < cli | 17:44 |
| mugsie | ok, | 17:44 |
| ekarlso- | There's a blog post on secondary zones https://cloudistic.net/blog/designate-secondary-zones.html < there and using v2 cli on transfers here: https://cloudistic.net/blog/designate-zone-transfers.html | 17:44 |
| ekarlso- | i've added tests to it but some other peeps to test it is always better then oneself :) | 17:44 |
| mugsie | #action people review ekarlso- 's secondary zones / v2 API bindings | 17:44 |
| ekarlso- | kewl | 17:45 |
| mugsie | any other issues / bugs / problems | 17:45 |
| mugsie | ? | 17:45 |
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| rjrjr | i'm good. | 17:45 |
| mugsie | ok. | 17:45 |
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| mugsie | thanks everyone for coming! | 17:45 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 26 17:45:59 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-11-26-17.02.html | 17:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-11-26-17.02.txt | 17:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-11-26-17.02.log.html | 17:46 |
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| SlickNik | startmeeting #trove | 18:00 |
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| SlickNik | Giving folks a few minutes to trickle in | 18:00 |
| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | Meeting agenda at: | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting#Agenda_for_Nov_26th | 18:01 |
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| denis_makogon | o/ | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | Should be a fairly light agenda today. | 18:02 |
| peterstac | o/ | 18:02 |
| dougshelley66 | all of our friends in the US already gearing up for turkey? | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | dougshelley66: yup, seems to be the case. :) | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | #topic Dates for Trove Kilo Mid-Cycle sprint | 18:03 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | So we should be all set for having the mid-cycle sprint on Feb 3-5, 2015 | 18:04 |
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| schang | :) | 18:04 |
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| dougshelley66 | sounds good - Tue-Thurs - thx | 18:04 |
| dougshelley66 | what is the venue | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | I'm still getting the logistics of the exact place worked out, but it will most likely be at the Washington State Convention Center (http://www.wscc.com/) | 18:05 |
| dougshelley66 | are you expecting 1,000s of attendees :) | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | dougshelley66: That's where the HP Seattle offices are :) | 18:06 |
| dougshelley66 | SlickNik, ah ok | 18:06 |
| denis_makogon | nice place =) | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | And we have room to expand in case we get 1000s of attendees, so there's that. | 18:06 |
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| SlickNik | #action SlickNik to update the Mid-cycle wiki and set up an event page where folks can register at. | 18:07 |
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| SlickNik | ^ Should help with getting a count of folks who will be able to make it. | 18:07 |
| denis_makogon | what about remote participation ? | 18:08 |
| denis_makogon | regular question for me =) | 18:08 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:08 |
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| amrith | denis_makogon, there's place for 1000's of people. you should be able to squeeze into the room. | 18:09 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, yeah =) | 18:09 |
| denis_makogon | but seriously | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: Will try to figure something out once I know exactly what location I'm working with. | 18:10 |
| SlickNik | will keep you guys posted. | 18:10 |
| SlickNik | ANd the wiki updated. | 18:10 |
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| denis_makogon | i will ask Illya, if he'd approve my travel, but i'm not sure | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | Okay, that's all I had for an update. Any other questions on this? | 18:12 |
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| dougshelley66 | can you drop some hotel recommendations on the wiki page for it | 18:12 |
| denis_makogon | oh, that'll be useful | 18:13 |
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| SlickNik | dougshelley66: Will do — Am seeing if I can find a group rate for a couple of hotels nearby as well. | 18:13 |
| dougshelley66 | SlickNik, great thx | 18:13 |
| amrith | thx SlickNik | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | np | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | #topic Trove BP meeting -- to bp or not to bp? | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | So this is a continuation of the discussion we were having on Monday. | 18:14 |
| dougshelley66 | I like the proposal to move an BPs that need to be highlighted or discussed back to this meeting | 18:14 |
| dougshelley66 | and possibly including a caveat that they must be listed on this meeting's agenda by monday? | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | dougshelley66: I second that. | 18:15 |
| dougshelley66 | so folks have time to digest | 18:15 |
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| peterstac | +1 | 18:15 |
| johnma | I like that as well but will we still stick with the 1-hr wed meeting | 18:15 |
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| peterstac | johnma: that's the idea | 18:16 |
| dougshelley66 | johnma, i would think so - we just need to be focussed ?) | 18:16 |
| dougshelley66 | : | 18:16 |
| dougshelley66 | :) | 18:16 |
| dougshelley66 | sorry can't type today | 18:16 |
| amrith | this is different, how? | 18:16 |
| amrith | oh, sorry, wrong channel ;) | 18:16 |
| amrith | <really> | 18:16 |
| johnma | I agree. anything more than an hour is too much I guess | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | johnma: Yes, we'll continue having this weekly meeting, and any BP discussions (either contentious ones, or simply one needing more feedback) can happen at this meeting. | 18:17 |
| SlickNik | Okay, so it seems most folks are in agreement. | 18:18 |
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| dougshelley66 | +1 | 18:18 |
| amrith | +1 | 18:18 |
| SlickNik | #action SlickNik to update the meeting wiki pages, and send out email to the ML so folks not attending this meeting are aware. | 18:18 |
| denis_makogon | ++ | 18:18 |
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| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:20 |
| amrith | that's a good improvement, I think. | 18:21 |
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| denis_makogon | i've got one | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | go for it denis_makogon | 18:22 |
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| denis_makogon | i spoke with Auston yesterday about writing clustering int tests, and he told that he's pretty busy on internal stuff, so he don't mind if i would take it over | 18:23 |
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| denis_makogon | and another thing, as you know we have problem with our dsvm-gate | 18:23 |
| denis_makogon | it take too long, more than 95 mins | 18:24 |
| amrith | it is testing thoroughly. | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: Looks like after the token fix, most of the builds shouldn't time out. | 18:24 |
| denis_makogon | i've spoke with infra folks, and they told me that we're not allowed to increase timeout, so we have to re-organize out black-box tests | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: every now and then we get a slow machine and the tests don't run in time. | 18:25 |
| denis_makogon | i tried to figure out how can we reduce time in gate, and, i guess, i know how | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: Let me chat with the infra folks, IIRC the patch I saw out there increased the timeout to 3 hours which was way too long. | 18:25 |
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| denis_makogon | SlickNik, i abandoned it | 18:26 |
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| denis_makogon | because we can do better optimization in our tests =) | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | I'm open to optimizations in the tests as long as we're not hurting coverage. | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | (i.e. removing tests) | 18:27 |
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| denis_makogon | it is mostly about correct test grouping | 18:27 |
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| denis_makogon | correct dependencies can fix it | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | dependencies? | 18:28 |
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| denis_makogon | between tests | 18:28 |
| denis_makogon | proboscis stuff | 18:29 |
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| denis_makogon | that's all | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | I see, so you're saying that there may exist a re-ordering of tests that is more time optimal than the ordering we currently have. | 18:30 |
| denis_makogon | yes =) | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | That may be the case — let's talk about what that re-ordering may be, and how it would help. | 18:30 |
| denis_makogon | we have 5 tests that are taking like 32 mins | 18:30 |
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| SlickNik | If so, I'd be totally up for it. | 18:30 |
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| SlickNik | Let's talk about the details offline. | 18:31 |
| denis_makogon | sure | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | Anything else for Open Discussion? | 18:32 |
| denis_makogon | that's pretty much all from me | 18:32 |
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| SlickNik | . | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | Thanks all! | 18:32 |
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| amrith | Thanks SlickNik | 18:33 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, thanks to you too | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | And for the US folks: have a happy Thanksgiving! | 18:34 |
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| johnma | Happy Thanksgiving. thank you | 18:34 |
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| georgelorch | o/ | 18:40 |
| georgelorch | oops, too late :) | 18:40 |
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