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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 15:04:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | hey guys sorry I spaced out | 15:04 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:04 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:04 |
| rushil | hi | 15:04 |
| csaba | hi | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | was debugging a script | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:05 |
| jasonsb | hi | 15:05 |
| diemt | hi | 15:05 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:05 |
| rraja | hi | 15:05 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:05 |
| vvechkanov | hi | 15:05 |
| bswartz | there's several things to dicuss today | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "dev status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:05 | |
| ganso | hi | 15:05 |
| bswartz | we'll start with last weeks status update | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | dev status: | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | 1) Share Drivers are able to make its own networking stuff now | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/network-helper | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | commit: #link https://github.com/openstack/manila/commit/36db3f39 | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | 2) Share driver parent class now implements "modes" for Share drivers | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/driver-modes | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | commit: #link https://github.com/openstack/manila/commit/28f311c9 | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | 3) Split service_instance module to compute and networking | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141760/ | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | status: ready for review | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | that's the main | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | thanks vponomaryov | 15:07 |
| bswartz | so 1 and 2 merged just in the last day | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | #topic Kilo-1 milestone review | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo-1 milestone review (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:08 | |
| bswartz | so several of the BPs targetted for K-1 did not merge :-( | 15:09 |
| bswartz | I think it's probably my fault for not giving people enough warning | 15:09 |
| bswartz | and not being as proactive on reviews as I could have been | 15:09 |
| bswartz | it's not a big deal to miss k-1 because we still have 2 more dev milestones | 15:10 |
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| jasonsb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/kilo | 15:10 |
| bswartz | however we should try to be better about getting stuff reviewed/merged earlier | 15:10 |
| csaba | bswartz: what is the actual deadline to hour precision? | 15:10 |
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| csaba | or nanosec :) | 15:11 |
| bswartz | because if this happens for k-3 we'll be forced to choose between granting a FFE or letting a feature slip out of kilo | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | csaba: 50 min left | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | 49 =) | 15:11 |
| bswartz | csaba: 1600 UTC -- and your change will be in check for probably an hour or more | 15:11 |
| bswartz | unless the gate is suddenly faster than yesterday | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: 20 min | 15:11 |
| bswartz | sorry I meant the check jobs are suddenly faster | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | 20 min for check jobs left | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | + 15 for merge set of gates | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | I won't press +2A unless it passes check job | 15:12 |
| bswartz | csaba: don't worry about it, we can still merge it today | 15:12 |
| csaba | bswartz: of course, cool | 15:13 |
| bswartz | maybe you'll have the honor of the first merge in K-2 | 15:13 |
| jasonsb | better link #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/kilo-1 | 15:13 |
| bswartz | jasonb: thanks | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | so after this meeting I'm getting together with ttx and he will press the button, and everything not done will push to K-2 | 15:14 |
| bswartz | any other question about k-1? | 15:14 |
| bswartz | #topic Kilo-2 planning | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo-2 planning (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:15 | |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:15 |
| bswartz | okay so here's what we have | 15:15 |
| bswartz | the stuff that's not done from K-1 will be joining this list soon | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | we'll have 7 weeks for k-2, but part of that time is holidays for most people | 15:16 |
| bswartz | k-2 will be open for new features and drivers | 15:16 |
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| esheffield | eld | 15:16 |
| bswartz | I'm hoping we will wrap up the rest of the stuff we talked about in paris | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | and get the rest of the drivers merged, so K-3 can be relatively quiet | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: quiet? not sure | 15:17 |
| bswartz | anyways if you're working on anything you hope to merge, please make sure it's on the list | 15:17 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: it's just a hope | 15:17 |
| bswartz | we'll see what actually happen :-) | 15:18 |
| bswartz | happens* | 15:18 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: same as today =) | 15:18 |
| jasonsb | can i get hds driver on list? | 15:18 |
| bswartz | there's one other thing I want to focus on in K-2, which is functional tests | 15:18 |
| bswartz | jasonsb: send me a link | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: manila or client? | 15:18 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: manila functional tests | 15:18 |
| jasonsb | ok i'll make and send | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: "manila functional tests" - tempest tests | 15:19 |
| bswartz | once all the driver-impacting changes are in, we should turn our attention to making our tests more stable, and making them actually gate changes | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | right now it's possible to pass jenkins even if tempest fails, and in fact tempest fails somewhat regularly | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is not related to manila directly | 15:20 |
| bswartz | usually it's timeout problems, but that's not acceptable | 15:20 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: some errors like VM has not been started, etc | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it will be more stable on third-party CI | 15:20 |
| bswartz | if there are tests that can't pass reliably, we need to remove those tests and replace them with tests that do pass reliably | 15:20 |
| bswartz | also I'd like to see tests that exercise more functionality | 15:21 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: no specific - VMs for Generic driver - main reason of fails | 15:21 |
| bswartz | right now there's no verification that the shares created are even mountable | 15:21 |
| vponomaryov | this not functional | 15:21 |
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| vponomaryov | it is scenario will be | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | perhaps | 15:22 |
| bswartz | but even so, then we need scenario tests to be automated and made part of the gate | 15:22 |
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| vponomaryov | agree | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | testing needs to gradually get better -- I'm not sure where we will get by K-2 but I want to set the goal where we want to be | 15:23 |
| bswartz | which is full end-to-end testing of drivers | 15:23 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:24 |
| bswartz | #topic NetApp cDOT driver refactoring | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "NetApp cDOT driver refactoring (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:24 | |
| cknight | #link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/netapp-manila-cdot-driver-refactoring | 15:24 |
| bswartz | cknight: you're up | 15:24 |
| cknight | We recently refactored the NetApp Data ONTAP drivers in Cinder. | 15:24 |
| cknight | The result is a four-layer driver (interface, library, client, API) with much shorter files for easier maintenance and readability and a fair bit of code sharing with the 7-mode driver. | 15:24 |
| cknight | We are planning to do the same thing for Manila. | 15:25 |
| cknight | The goals and work items are all in the blueprint. | 15:25 |
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| cknight | This work should be done early in the new year, so it would be good to know of any significant near-term changes planned in the Manila cluster-mode driver. | 15:25 |
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| cknight | If you want to see what it will look like, just look in Cinder now. | 15:25 |
| cknight | Any questions? | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: what will be first this one or support of single driver mode? | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | how is it planned to be? | 15:26 |
| bswartz | cknight: AFAIK there's only one open patchset which affects the netapp driver | 15:26 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: good question. Is single-driver mode ready to go in? | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: interface is merged, single SVM for cdot is unassigned task | 15:27 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: I think people on my team will be making the changes to the netapp driver | 15:27 |
| bswartz | you don't need to worry about that | 15:27 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz said NetApp team will work on it | 15:27 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: yes, we'd like to do that immediately after the refactoring. | 15:27 |
| vponomaryov | got it | 15:28 |
| bswartz | the only thing cknight needs to be aware of is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138689/ | 15:28 |
| cknight | bswartz: you are referring to the driver extension mechanism? | 15:28 |
| bswartz | and any other change which affects all the drivers | 15:28 |
| bswartz | cknight yes | 15:28 |
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| cknight | bswartz: I looked at it, and it should be straightforward to work with | 15:28 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:28 |
| bswartz | thanks cknight | 15:28 |
| bswartz | #topic Holidays | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Holidays (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:29 | |
| bswartz | so many of us have holidays coming up | 15:29 |
| bswartz | unfortunately not all at the same time | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | I'm sure it will be harder to reach people for the next 2-3 weeks | 15:29 |
| bswartz | and these meetings happen to fall right on the holidays here in the US | 15:30 |
| bswartz | so I plan to cancel the next 2 meetings and plan to meet back up on Jan 8 2015 | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | wow | 15:30 |
| bswartz | I hope you guys enjoy your holidays and take some time off | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | I'll still be on IRC most of the next week and you can grab me for code reviews, etc | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | #topic Syetem services | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Syetem services (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:32 | |
| bswartz | csaba: go ahead | 15:32 |
| csaba | this came up in context of ganesha, but the problem is generic | 15:33 |
| csaba | ie. in ganesha, there is a service to manage for the ganesha nfsd | 15:33 |
| csaba | and I observed interesting things | 15:33 |
| csaba | nilesh, for gpfs, set up the share for /sbin/service | 15:34 |
| bswartz | csaba: what exactly do you mean by "service" | 15:34 |
| csaba | *share filter | 15:34 |
| csaba | service command | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | you mean app within host? | 15:34 |
| csaba | so nilesh choice was to restart ganesha with "service <service-name> restart' | 15:34 |
| bswartz | you mean a systemd/upstart service? | 15:34 |
| csaba | yep | 15:34 |
| bswartz | ok | 15:35 |
| csaba | or whatever init system controlled service | 15:35 |
| csaba | now in ubuntu I found service is /usr/sbin/service ... | 15:35 |
| bswartz | yes that's true | 15:35 |
| csaba | so to make that code work on ubuntu, admin has to hack into share filters | 15:35 |
| csaba | and beyond that, we can't expect that system services are managed by service(8) | 15:36 |
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| csaba | because 1) with systemd prevalence it might be not present | 15:36 |
| bswartz | csaba: it sounds like the driver needs to autodetect what's it's running on and behave differently as a result | 15:37 |
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| csaba | 2) in more embedded-ish setup like a service vm there might be some custom mininal init system | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | or else there needs to be a config option for the admin to modify the behavior as needed | 15:37 |
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| csaba | bswartz: however, the question is so much general tthat I could imagine a common solution for whole openstack ecosystem | 15:38 |
| nileshb | csaba, I understand the problem, its the filter that needs to be managed dynamically changed | 15:38 |
| bswartz | I'm not sure what you mean by filter | 15:38 |
| nileshb | the share filters | 15:38 |
| bswartz | you mean the m-sch filters? | 15:38 |
| csaba | nileshb: I think your choice is OK ATM, I was just wondering how it could be better with a general approach | 15:39 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/etc/manila/rootwrap.d/share.filters | 15:39 |
| bswartz | you mean the rootwrap... | 15:39 |
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| nileshb | my choice is fine, but it may not work on all the systems | 15:40 |
| bswartz | can't wildcards be used? | 15:40 |
| csaba | I don't mean to start a new project, but at least I could imagine some oslo.* lib to address this... transparent system service management | 15:40 |
| bswartz | {/usr,}/bin/service ? | 15:40 |
| bswartz | {/usr,}/sbin/service | 15:40 |
| tbarron | there's a general dependency of rootwrap on OS paths, no? | 15:40 |
| csaba | bswartz: or add the rule for both paths? | 15:41 |
| nileshb | I think, this is a generic problem and might have been solved in other OpenStack projects | 15:41 |
| bswartz | yeah I expect that distros would tailor the rootwrap for their own distro anyways | 15:41 |
| bswartz | for upstream we can simply include both rootwrap paths | 15:41 |
| tbarron | bswartz: +1 | 15:41 |
| bswartz | this seems like a really simple problem that doesn't require a complex solution | 15:41 |
| csaba | nileshb: that's the question, is there prior art? | 15:42 |
| csaba | bswartz: how is it done in devstack eg? | 15:42 |
| nileshb | csaba: we will need to investigate | 15:42 |
| csaba | devstack has to be able to manage services both on ubuntu and fedora | 15:42 |
| toabctl | bswartz: +1 | 15:42 |
| bswartz | tbh I'm not sure | 15:42 |
| bswartz | I think devstack does have special cases depending on the OS | 15:43 |
| csaba | nileshb: +! | 15:43 |
| toabctl | csaba: devstack has a start/stop wrapper | 15:43 |
| csaba | +1 | 15:43 |
| csaba | toabctl: would it be reasonable to adopt that? | 15:43 |
| nileshb | bswartz: what you suggested, i.e. to add paths suitable to various supported OS platforms, looks like a workaround, but it will work | 15:43 |
| bswartz | yeah I'm in favor of just adding multiple paths to the rootwrap | 15:44 |
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| bswartz | having both /sbin/service and /usr/sbin/service in the rootwrap is not going to cause a security problem | 15:44 |
| toabctl | csaba: I would, as bswartz suggests, just add both path for now. | 15:44 |
| tbarron | KISS | 15:44 |
| csaba | bswartz: and do you think we can count on service(8) availability everywhere? | 15:44 |
| bswartz | csaba: I'm not sure of that, any SUSE folks here? | 15:45 |
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| nileshb | I believe, yes .. else we fail anyway | 15:45 |
| toabctl | csaba: suse has it. seems to be a wrapper arround systemctl | 15:45 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:45 |
| csaba | toabctl: OK so for now service with multple paths will be fine | 15:46 |
| bswartz | alright! | 15:46 |
| bswartz | anything else on this topic csaba? | 15:46 |
| tbarron | that was Keep It Simple Stupid (since somebody asked me) | 15:46 |
| csaba | no, I'm fine with this conclusion | 15:46 |
| bswartz | #topic open disucssion | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | any last things? | 15:46 |
| tbarron | not affection for anyone here :-) | 15:47 |
| toabctl | maybe you discussed that already - is next week a meeting? | 15:47 |
| nileshb | one thing | 15:47 |
| cknight | tbarron: :-* | 15:47 |
| bswartz | toabctl: next meeting will be 8 Jan 2015 | 15:47 |
| toabctl | bswartz: ok. thx | 15:47 |
| bswartz | I'll update the wiki | 15:47 |
| nileshb | I am just curious to understand what it takes to graduate manila from incubation status to integrated project status? | 15:48 |
| vponomaryov | nileshb: size of community and core group | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | nileshb: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/incubation-integration-requirements.rst | 15:48 |
| nileshb | do we expect to get to that state, in K release or L release? | 15:49 |
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| nileshb | Ok, I will look into the process offline | 15:49 |
| nileshb | thnx | 15:49 |
| bswartz | nileshb: we're trying to do it ASAP | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | the TC is going through some changes though, so I expect the goal line to get moved before we get there | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | I attend all the TC meetings and I'm trying to figure out what we should be doing | 15:51 |
| bswartz | priority #1 though is to make manila good and useful -- if we don't do that then nothing else will matter | 15:51 |
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| nileshb | bswartz: sure, thanks | 15:51 |
| bswartz | I'd like to thank all of the reviewers for their hard work on K-1 | 15:52 |
| nileshb | bswartz: lets all work towards it | 15:52 |
| bswartz | anyone whose patches didn't make it for K-1, we'll try to get them in early in K-2 | 15:52 |
| bswartz | maybe even as early as this afternoon in the case of csaba | 15:52 |
| bswartz | :-) | 15:52 |
| csaba | \o/ | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | that's all I've got | 15:53 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone | 15:53 |
| vponomaryov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124635/ can go right now =) | 15:53 |
| nileshb | Merry Xmas to all, enjoy the holidays | 15:53 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I'll review it right now | 15:53 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 15:53:42 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-12-18-15.04.html | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-12-18-15.04.txt | 15:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-12-18-15.04.log.html | 15:53 |
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| kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 16:00:29 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
| kozhukalov | hi everyone | 16:00 |
| kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:00 |
| meow-nofer | hi | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:00 |
| kozhukalov | agenda as usual | 16:00 |
| tdubyk | hi | 16:01 |
| docaedo | hey | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
| evgeniyl__ | hey | 16:01 |
| dpyzhov | hi | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic Announcements (dpyzhov) | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (dpyzhov) (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:01 | |
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| xarses | hi | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | dpyzhov: around? | 16:03 |
| dpyzhov | Hi. I’m pretty busy with agile trainings these days. As I see, we are pretty close to finally release 6.0 | 16:03 |
| dpyzhov | There are 3 High bugs in progress | 16:03 |
| dpyzhov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1403798 | 16:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1403798 in fuel "[Upgrade] Upgrade of fuel failed on upgrading openstack stage withHTTPError: 401 Client Error: Unauthorized " [High,In progress] | 16:03 |
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| dpyzhov | This one should be moved to 6.1 | 16:03 |
| dpyzhov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/6.0.x/+bug/1402641 | 16:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1402641 in fuel/6.0.x "No logs from neutron openvswitch agent" [High,In progress] | 16:04 |
| dpyzhov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/6.0.x/+bug/1393557 | 16:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1393557 in fuel/6.0.x "Quick Start scripts cannot locate Fuel ISO in 'iso' directory when executed inside Cygwin" [High,In progress] | 16:04 |
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| dpyzhov | I’m not sure about this bugs | 16:04 |
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| dpyzhov | But we have a rule to merge only Critical bugfixes | 16:04 |
| dpyzhov | Does anyone has info about this bugs? | 16:05 |
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| kozhukalov | looks like there are no criticals | 16:05 |
| angdraug | virtualbox scripts are not shipped with the iso, so we can fix them on master and publish that | 16:05 |
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| dpyzhov | AFAIK, bug with logs should be mentioned in release notes and moved to 6.1 | 16:06 |
| angdraug | +1 | 16:06 |
| dpyzhov | So for me it looks like we are ready for new RC | 16:07 |
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| angdraug | do you mean we keep #56? | 16:07 |
| kozhukalov | yep it is rc3 | 16:07 |
| dpyzhov | do we have any merged fixes after #56? | 16:08 |
| xarses | no logs from neutron agent? its that in master or locally or at all? | 16:08 |
| dpyzhov | xarses: on master. Actually logs are on master node. But in wrong place | 16:08 |
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| xarses | ok, but they are somewhere | 16:09 |
| dpyzhov | xarses: yes | 16:09 |
| evgeniyl__ | also we've got similar bug with sahara https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1403877 | 16:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1403877 in fuel/6.1.x "Sahara logs don't present in UI because it was renamed to "sahara-all"" [Medium,In progress] | 16:09 |
| xarses | ok thx, editing name to reflect that | 16:09 |
| docaedo | any risk of those logs, due to being in the wrong place not getting rotated leading to out of disk space eventually? | 16:09 |
| dpyzhov | User have to log in to the master node and read the file locally | 16:10 |
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| dpyzhov | It is a really annoying bug, but not Critical | 16:10 |
| angdraug | the only changes we have merged since #56 are two commits in fuel-main | 16:10 |
| dpyzhov | angdraug: anything critical? | 16:11 |
| xarses | i fixed name to make it not sound critical | 16:11 |
| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/142511 | 16:11 |
| bogdando | docaedo, unmatched logs are still at /var/log/remote of master node and this dir rotated as always | 16:11 |
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| xarses | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/6.0.x/+bug/1402641 | 16:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1402641 in fuel/6.0.x "No logs from neutron openvswitch agent" [High,In progress] | 16:11 |
| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/142483 | 16:11 |
| dpyzhov | angdraug: I see only test fixes | 16:12 |
| angdraug | yes, Medium and High priority | 16:12 |
| angdraug | so no, nothing Critical | 16:12 |
| dpyzhov | excellent, we don’t need to respin RC =) | 16:12 |
| dpyzhov | I don’t see nurla in the meeting. Does anyone know status of our acceptance tests? | 16:13 |
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| dpyzhov | Looks like raw estimate is about a week for testing | 16:14 |
| dpyzhov | Unfortunately there is noone here to confirm | 16:14 |
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| kozhukalov | dpyzhov, thanks | 16:15 |
| kozhukalov | are you done? | 16:15 |
| dpyzhov | thats all from my side | 16:16 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, moving on then | 16:16 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Ubuntu 14.04 update (msemenov) | 16:16 |
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| msemenov | hi all | 16:16 |
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| msemenov | So, it's official - we are moving to Ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) in 6.1 scope | 16:16 |
| msemenov | Now we can build ISO with trusty based on 6.0 branch | 16:16 |
| msemenov | Alexei Sheplyakov is working on it (asheplyakov) | 16:16 |
| msemenov | There is a heap of requests related to trusty | 16:17 |
| msemenov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138010 | 16:17 |
| msemenov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138110 | 16:17 |
| msemenov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138298 | 16:17 |
| msemenov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142404 | 16:17 |
| msemenov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142405 | 16:17 |
| msemenov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142406 | 16:17 |
| msemenov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142407 | 16:17 |
| msemenov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142408 | 16:17 |
| msemenov | For these and further requests we need assistance of fuel-main and fuel-library teams | 16:17 |
| msemenov | I mean review and some help if it's needed | 16:17 |
| msemenov | Also, today we scheduled a weekly cross-team sync up about Ubuntu 14.04 in MOS 6.0 | 16:17 |
| kozhukalov | msemenov: unfortunately, i did not have time today to review them | 16:17 |
| dpyzhov | msemenov: were you able to deploy on 14.04 with these fixes? | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | i hope tomorrow i will | 16:18 |
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| msemenov | dpyzhov: I think no, today we can just build iso and boot the master node. I'm not sure about the whole deploy | 16:18 |
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| dpyzhov | msemenov: Ok, looking forward for it | 16:19 |
| msemenov | ok | 16:19 |
| msemenov | any other questions on this topic? | 16:20 |
| mattymo | wait wait wait | 16:20 |
| dpyzhov | msemenov: we’ll review patches | 16:20 |
| mattymo | fuel master node on Ubuntu? | 16:20 |
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| msemenov | no, ISO containing trusty | 16:21 |
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| mattymo | oh just meeting requirements based on Trusty. got it | 16:22 |
| msemenov | deployment on the nodes doesn't work well | 16:22 |
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| msemenov | because of astute problems for example | 16:22 |
| msemenov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/1385079 | 16:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1385079 in mos "astute erroneously decides that puppet on nodes has hung and aborts the deployment" [High,Triaged] | 16:23 |
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| kozhukalov | msemenov: ok, looks like it is a wise decision to move this feature to 6.1 | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:24 |
| msemenov | + | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Artifact based build process (nmarkov) | 16:24 |
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| meow-nofer | so, I'm already working on POC of build system for several days | 16:25 |
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| meow-nofer | it's not really ready to show right now, but kozhukalov is also monitoring progress and we made multiple important architecture decisions | 16:25 |
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| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138994/2/specs/6.1/artifact-based-build-system.rst | 16:26 |
| kozhukalov | good to hear we are on the same page about its design now | 16:26 |
| meow-nofer | also, there were a couple of meetings with OSCI team on how their system is building packages and how we can integrate together in the future | 16:26 |
| meow-nofer | kozhukalov, mostly, yes | 16:26 |
| kozhukalov | angdraug: yes, thanks for link | 16:26 |
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| meow-nofer | so, our current target is to provide somewhat working POC next week and maybe some beautiful scheme of how it will work | 16:27 |
| meow-nofer | apart from spec itself | 16:27 |
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| kozhukalov | meow-nofer: ok, when ready, please ping me earlier to assist with assemblingPOC infrastructure | 16:28 |
| angdraug | is there a transition plan? | 16:28 |
| meow-nofer | as for me, current code looks promising, but I'm its author and may be not objective | 16:28 |
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| meow-nofer | kozhukalov have a side look | 16:28 |
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| angdraug | is it going to be a gradual transition or a single point where we introduce all artefacts? | 16:29 |
| meow-nofer | angdraug, transition from make, you mean? | 16:29 |
| angdraug | yes | 16:29 |
| kozhukalov | angdraug: gradual | 16:29 |
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| meow-nofer | angdraug, first of all, we'll be able to run our system on top of make | 16:29 |
| meow-nofer | and then move on step by step with no hurry | 16:29 |
| kozhukalov | at first we are going to split make system into a set of independent parts | 16:29 |
| kozhukalov | and create a set of jenkins jobs for them | 16:30 |
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| kozhukalov | next step is to run make scripts from inside new build system | 16:30 |
| meow-nofer | the first achievement should be, we'll be able to build ISO much faster than we do it now | 16:30 |
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| kozhukalov | meow-nofer: i think there will be many many questions during POC presentation | 16:31 |
| angdraug | sounds good, looking forward to see the POC | 16:32 |
| meow-nofer | kozhukalov, sure, but as for me, our current implementation is as simple as an axe | 16:32 |
| kozhukalov | meow-nofer: we need to start documenting architecture as well as cases | 16:32 |
| meow-nofer | kozhukalov, and test it | 16:32 |
| meow-nofer | unit testing is strongly required before we'll run something "in production" | 16:33 |
| meow-nofer | that's all from me on topic | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | ok | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | thanks | 16:33 |
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| kozhukalov | moving | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Open discussion | 16:34 |
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| kozhukalov | does anyone has any q? | 16:34 |
| angdraug | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/merge-openstack-puppet-modules | 16:34 |
| angdraug | can we talk about breaking up this bp? | 16:34 |
| angdraug | I think it's an ongoing effort, and since it's not something that requires much design discussions, we can track it as bugs | 16:35 |
| angdraug | one bug per module, e.g. "update puppet-haproxy to 0.9.0" | 16:35 |
| kozhukalov | aglarendil: around? | 16:35 |
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| angdraug | aglarendil raised a point over email that we agreed not to track non-defect work in bugs | 16:36 |
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| angdraug | I think we should be pragmatic about this case | 16:37 |
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| angdraug | (just to be clear, I think pacemaker-improvements should still be tracked in blueprints, not bugs) | 16:37 |
| angdraug | thoughts anyone? | 16:37 |
| adanin | There are 2 types of blueprints | 16:38 |
| adanin | simple and complex | 16:38 |
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| adanin | a complex blueprint must have a specification | 16:38 |
| adanin | but a simple one doesn't | 16:38 |
| adanin | we can track little improvements as simple blueprints | 16:39 |
| angdraug | good point | 16:39 |
| adanin | and let developer to file and implement them after FF but before SCF | 16:39 |
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| angdraug | that far, I wouldn't go | 16:40 |
| kozhukalov | is there special field in BP (simple or complex) or it is on BP reporter? how can i know which of them are simple? | 16:40 |
| angdraug | I'm quite ok with not doing upstream manifest merges after FF | 16:40 |
| angdraug | kozhukalov: I guess it just wouldn't have a link to specification | 16:41 |
| kozhukalov | angdraug: or maybe it is better to put that into description template we use now for all our BPs | 16:41 |
| adanin | angdraug, kozhukalov: we can explicitly specify that it’s a simple BP w/o spec | 16:42 |
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| xarses | i think this is not angdraug's point | 16:42 |
| angdraug | yes, explicitly specifying is better, would help to tell if we don't need a spec or simply haven't created a spec yet | 16:42 |
| xarses | we run massive bp cycle over cycle | 16:42 |
| xarses | its bad | 16:42 |
| xarses | its hard to trak | 16:42 |
| angdraug | xarses: I think even aglarendil has agreed that it's bad, based on his email from this morning :) | 16:43 |
| xarses | =) | 16:43 |
| angdraug | the only downside with tracking upstream merges as simple bp's instead of bugs is that there'll be a lot of them | 16:43 |
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| angdraug | (hopfully :) | 16:44 |
| kozhukalov | adanin: could you please put your idea about simple/complex BPs to ML thread | 16:44 |
| kozhukalov | ? | 16:44 |
| xarses | aren't we going to eventually stop merging upstream altogether though | 16:44 |
| adanin | kozhukalov: yes, I will | 16:44 |
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| angdraug | as I mentioned on that thread, we can only stop merging upstream when we continuously use latest upstream | 16:45 |
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| angdraug | and that's definitely not in scope for 6.1 | 16:46 |
| kozhukalov | angdraug: is it possible? isn't that going to break anything? i mean using latest upstream | 16:46 |
| angdraug | it is possible in theory, but a lot of work to get there in practice | 16:46 |
| angdraug | most of the changes we do to upstream manifests can either be pushed to upstream, or moved to the openstack module | 16:47 |
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| alex_didenko | +1 | 16:47 |
| angdraug | not to mention that we'll need a much better ci for puppet modules | 16:47 |
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| angdraug | so that we can quickly catch and fix breakage introduced by upstream changes | 16:48 |
| angdraug | same as we currently beginning to do with openstack master in mos | 16:48 |
| kozhukalov | angdraug: and if you are going to push your changes to upstream it means you are going to slow down your development process, am i right? | 16:48 |
| angdraug | kozhukalov: if you move most of your customizations to openstack module, you won't have to push to upstream that often | 16:49 |
| alex_didenko | nope, we can push change upstream and apply it on our copy of module | 16:49 |
| angdraug | you can implement an external fix first, then propose native fix to upstream, then remove external fix when upstream version having your fix lands | 16:49 |
| angdraug | and what alex_didenko said, too | 16:49 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, sounds like a great plan | 16:50 |
| angdraug | before we consider that we need to meet 2 large goals | 16:50 |
| angdraug | 1) finish catching up to upstream | 16:50 |
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| angdraug | 2) expand scope of ci for fuel-library | 16:50 |
| angdraug | that's why I don't think we can even consider this in 6.1 | 16:50 |
| kozhukalov | yes, it is not so easy | 16:51 |
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| angdraug | I think we're done with this topic, anyone else for open discussion? | 16:51 |
| OKosse | o/ | 16:51 |
| kozhukalov | OKosse: hi | 16:52 |
| OKosse | We've already finished acceptance tests of vcenter , vcenter+glance, nsx, vcenter+vlan on rc2. We are in progress of testing our features on rc3. we have 3 bugs in progress and moved to 6.1, but they are not critical | 16:52 |
| adanin | OKosse: please | 16:52 |
| angdraug | that's great news | 16:52 |
| kozhukalov | OKosse: good to hear, thanks | 16:53 |
| kozhukalov | anything else? | 16:53 |
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| kozhukalov | looks like we are done | 16:54 |
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| kozhukalov | thanks everyone | 16:54 |
| kozhukalov | closing | 16:54 |
| kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 16:54:42 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-12-18-16.00.html | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-12-18-16.00.txt | 16:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-12-18-16.00.log.html | 16:54 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 17:00:38 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:00 |
| sweston | o/ | 17:00 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:00 |
| elmiko | o/ | 17:00 |
| sicarie | o/ | 17:00 |
| gmurphy | o/ | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | Good turnout for a pre-holiday meeting :) | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | :) | 17:01 |
| tkelsey | well the rumour got out that you were back chairing hyakuhei :P | 17:01 |
| elmiko | nice | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | haha thanks tkelsey | 17:02 |
| nkinder | hey all | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | Hey nkinder nice to see you! | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | yo nkinder | 17:02 |
| nkinder | Yeah, finally a thursday without a conflict! | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | woo, nice | 17:03 |
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| bknudson | hi | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, what's the agenda for today then ? | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | allright so I missed a couple of meetings but I'd be curious about: 1) meeting date for OSSG mid-cycle 2) did we get any progress on that calibration exercise? | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | good points tmcpeak | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | 1) The meetup will not run concurrent with Barbican in the same location | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | They (Rack) couldn't get the funding for SFO and are holding it in Austin or San Antonio I forget which | 17:04 |
| nkinder | There were also some template changes discussed for OSSNs that we should discuss here | 17:04 |
| nkinder | Austin | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | We currently have space reserved at the Geekdom in SF for the _same_ week as Barbican | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | oh cool | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | I'm waiting to hear back if we can more that reservation for the week before or week after | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | although I guess that's no good for some | 17:05 |
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| nkinder | hyakuhei: so that's the week of Feb 16th currently? | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | So those who want to attend both can do | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: Yes. | 17:06 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: I can't do the first 2 days of the previous week | 17:07 |
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| nkinder | flying back from CZ on the 9th | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Ok I'm asking for availability for both | 17:07 |
| nkinder | but the rest of that week, or the week after are OK with me | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | I want you to be there if you can, you bring a lot of value | 17:07 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: collect availability on an etherpad? | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | maybe a similar approach to last time (availability marks on etherpad) could work | 17:07 |
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| nkinder | tmcpeak: jinx | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | ;) | 17:08 |
| bdpayne | ah shucks... you guys! | 17:08 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: does an etherpad already exist? | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | No sir I've been running around trying to coordinate the dates :( | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | is geekdom the only option for location? or is it just priced right? | 17:09 |
| bdpayne | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-kilo-meetup | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: price is free | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | hard to beat that | 17:10 |
| bknudson | they make it up in volume. | 17:11 |
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| hyakuhei | lol cool | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | So to tmcpeak's second point - OSSA metrics calibration | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | I'm asking the community to take a look at the metrics I created, take some previous OSSAs and score them | 17:12 |
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| bdpayne | hyakuhei sounds like the location is a lock then? is there still a desire for me to check it out? getting up there is kind of a pain, but I could do it if needed. | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | And see if the metric that comes out matches the perceived issue | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: Yes please, I'd really like it if you could check it out | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | come on bdpayne: cal train is *great* | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | If we can't move the date we'll have to overlap Barbican | 17:13 |
| bdpayne | ok, I'll see what i can work out | 17:13 |
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| hyakuhei | actually tmcpeak could possibly check it out ? | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | or are you gallavanting? | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | gallavanting | 17:13 |
| bdpayne | perhaps... how close are you to the space tmcpeak? | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | I can check it out | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | what should I find out? | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | I'm about a 20 min drive | 17:14 |
| nkinder | ok, I filled in some basics on the etherpad | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | Size, shape, smell | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | cool, yeah no problem | 17:14 |
| bdpayne | just take some pics, get a feel for the size of the space, etc | 17:14 |
| bdpayne | smell is important, yeah :-) | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | Basically will it work - you were at the last ossg meetup :) | 17:14 |
| bdpayne | and coffee options | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | will post everything to etherpad | 17:14 |
| tkelsey | +1 coffee :) | 17:14 |
| bdpayne | does it pass the "would you want to work there for a week" test | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | I can speak to coffee options - I used to work a block away. Lot's of good coffee and close drinks | 17:14 |
| bdpayne | stuff like that :-) | 17:14 |
| bdpayne | excellent | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: Yup exactly | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | ok will do | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | I can take an action | 17:15 |
| bdpayne | thanks tmcpeak... you just saved me several hours | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | no worries :) | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Superb, thanks guys! | 17:15 |
| bdpayne | ok, carry on with metrics | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/OSSA-Metrics | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | a couple of weeks ago there was talk on standardizing around 5 or so OSSA's | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Anyone want to take an action to take an OSSA and run it through the metrics? | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | and then whoever had bandwidth applying metrics to them | 17:16 |
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| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: I think you were away that week | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | was there any action on that front? | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | I've not seen it move much | 17:16 |
| bdpayne | someone was going to send out a list to review | 17:16 |
| bdpayne | I haven't seen that list | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, that's what I was wondering about, that list | 17:16 |
| bdpayne | but I still think it's a good idea | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, I like that idea | 17:17 |
| tkelsey | yeah a list was talked about, but I guess didnt get out | 17:17 |
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| bdpayne | no worries | 17:17 |
| bdpayne | who wants to do it now? | 17:17 |
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| gmurphy | i can probably spend a bit of time on this. i'm interested from a vmt perspective and have been working on getting a decent record of ossa data | 17:18 |
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| tkelsey | thanks gmurphy | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | Excellent - thanks gmurphy | 17:18 |
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| tmcpeak | awesome! | 17:18 |
| tkelsey | I would, but I did one already so I think we need others for a better representative set | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:19 |
| nkinder | so are these going to be added to the existing wiki page? | 17:19 |
| nkinder | It looks like 2 have been gone through already there | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | I've just been adding them as we go | 17:20 |
| bknudson | what's the page? | 17:20 |
| nkinder | bknudson: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Blueprints/IPABackend | 17:20 |
| nkinder | err, wrong paste | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | #link http://ttx.re/the-way-forward.html | 17:20 |
| nkinder | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/OSSA-Metrics | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | balls sorry | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | wrong link too :) | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | bahahaha | 17:20 |
| nkinder | haha, you did it too | 17:20 |
| bknudson | hehe | 17:20 |
| nkinder | double fail. Time to call it a year | 17:20 |
| bknudson | just getting random links | 17:21 |
| tkelsey | lol | 17:21 |
| bknudson | luckily safe for work. | 17:21 |
| gmurphy | haha | 17:21 |
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| nkinder | both OpenStack related at least! | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | paste roulette anybody? | 17:21 |
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| gmurphy | so i'd like to try and merge that data into our ossa repository that we've been working on - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ossa | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | Incidentally, you should all be aware of the changes the TC is going through http://ttx.re/the-way-forward.html | 17:21 |
| gmurphy | but i can add it to the wiki too | 17:21 |
| ttx | hyakuhei: that brings interesting questions on which projects in this larger upcoming group will be "security-supported" | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | Exactly | 17:22 |
| ttx | so far we (OSSG and VMT) roughly supported the integrated release | 17:22 |
| bknudson | I was surprised when I saw that ceilometer has essentially no security considerations. | 17:23 |
| ttx | hyakuhei: but we could now be more fine-grained | 17:23 |
| bknudson | other than, apparently, don't give access to ceilometer to anybody | 17:23 |
| ttx | and support based on audit results | 17:23 |
| ttx | and response times to security issues | 17:23 |
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| hyakuhei | It's a long post but worth reading. | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | Not 100% sure what I think of all the changes tbh | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | Anyway, OSSG Meetup and Metrics were the only things I wanted to bring up, not looking to add lots of actions before the holidays. | 17:25 |
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| bdpayne | ttx interesting, it will take me a bit to digest this all, but it sounds like the goal is to better scope what we support? | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | One thing to mention would be Anchor. Does it make sense for it to become more OSSG oriented in the same way that Bandit is | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | it seems like a good fit | 17:26 |
| ttx | bdpayne: the goal is to describe more accurately what we provide | 17:26 |
| bknudson | so we've got a couple of metrics... anybody else look at the 2 that are done and agree / disagree? | 17:26 |
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| bdpayne | hyakuhei perhaps, I'd like to look at it a bit more... it's on my (long) list | 17:26 |
| ttx | bdpayne: be more inclusive on one hand, be more precise on the other | 17:26 |
| bdpayne | ttx yeah, makes sense | 17:26 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: humm wouldnt hurt for sure, but worth getting input from a few people on it | 17:27 |
| ttx | rather than use a single definitiion to match all stuff | 17:27 |
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| hyakuhei | tkelsey: definintely | 17:29 |
| bknudson | "Discoverability always assumed to be 10 " -- makes sense since they're all public. | 17:29 |
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| hyakuhei | bknudson: yeah | 17:30 |
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| bknudson | so we've got 2 ossas scored and for some reason the score is different when they seem similar... | 17:32 |
| bknudson | e.g., Affected Users is 4 for one and 6 for the other | 17:33 |
| bknudson | but they both say it's same users affected (nova users) | 17:33 |
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| bdpayne | perhaps some nova users are more important than others? ;-) | 17:34 |
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| tkelsey | bdpayne: the second is nova users on the node. The first is nova API in general | 17:34 |
| bdpayne | ahh | 17:35 |
| bdpayne | well that kind of makes sense | 17:35 |
| bknudson | personally I think that "OSSA 2013-012" was worse than "OSSA 2014-038". | 17:35 |
| bknudson | but "Nova fails to verify image virtual size" is probably harder to exploit. | 17:35 |
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| tkelsey | bknudson: worth commenting on the discussion probably :) | 17:36 |
| bknudson | since you need to get the bad image in the system first. | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | This is exactly the conversation we need to have when we have a few more to calibrate against :) | 17:36 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:37 |
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| bdpayne | yeppers | 17:39 |
| bknudson | are we supposed to update the discussion part in the wiki with comments? I don't think wiki is the best place for a discussion. | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | We'll discuss on irc or a google hangout or something once we've got 5-6 | 17:39 |
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| tkelsey | bknudson: humm your probably right, hyakuhei +1 | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | I'd prefer to have discussion in one of these meetings or in the security room | 17:40 |
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| bknudson | are we just picking random OSSAs? | 17:41 |
| bknudson | or was there a list? | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | I think that previous idea to standardize on 5 or so for all of us to review might be more effective | 17:41 |
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| hyakuhei | bknudson: jut pick any you have a good feel for | 17:42 |
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| hyakuhei | once we have a few we'll address any obvious gaps | 17:42 |
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| gmurphy | ok. well i'll try to pick a few more and add them to the wiki. | 17:44 |
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| hyakuhei | Thanks guys | 17:44 |
| bknudson | I'll work on this one that I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossa/+bug/1354208 | 17:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1354208 in ossa "[OSSA 2014-029] Catalog replacement allows reading config (CVE-2014-3621)" [Medium,Fix released] | 17:45 |
| gmurphy | probably will go for a few different flaw classes etc. | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | I assume we aren't having a meeting btw? | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | next week I mean | 17:45 |
| nkinder | that's a safe assumption | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | (just trying to figure out by when I should recon geekdom) | 17:45 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah, this will be the last pre-xmas meeting | 17:47 |
| bknudson | week after that is new years day | 17:47 |
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| bdpayne | yeah, I vote for 2 weeks off | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:47 |
| tkelsey | +1 | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | ok :) | 17:47 |
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| tmcpeak | we can check out geekdom together the week after new years | 17:48 |
| bdpayne | anything else for today? | 17:49 |
| tkelsey | nothing from me | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | nope | 17:49 |
| gmurphy | nope. | 17:49 |
| elmiko | i just wanted to throw out the link for the pad i'm working on with ideas for the sahara sec doc | 17:49 |
| tkelsey | elmiko: ah cool | 17:50 |
| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-security-guide-notes | 17:50 |
| nkinder | elmiko: awesome | 17:50 |
| elmiko | it's a little sparse currently, but i'm hoping to have something ready for review early in january | 17:50 |
| tkelsey | elmiko: sounds good | 17:50 |
| elmiko | i'm having a little difficulty in determining/developing what is the default position of the project with regards to security | 17:50 |
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| elmiko | but i'm using the OSSG guide and a little common sense to develop a starting opinion, then i figure we can hash it out from there | 17:51 |
| elmiko | i welcome any comments, questions, criticism, in the pad. it really helps out =) | 17:51 |
| elmiko | that's all i had | 17:52 |
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| hyakuhei | Thanks elmiko we can always help with specific questions | 17:53 |
| elmiko | awesome, i'll try to work towards something a little more concrete for the SG | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | :D | 17:54 |
| hyakuhei | Anything else to discuss today peoples? | 17:54 |
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| nkinder | nothing here | 17:56 |
| tmcpeak | nope | 17:56 |
| nkinder | Happy Holidays all | 17:56 |
| tkelsey | nope | 17:56 |
| tkelsey | nkinder: and you :) | 17:56 |
| tmcpeak | happy holidays! have a good one all | 17:56 |
| elmiko | have fun all =) | 17:56 |
| sweston | o/ | 17:56 |
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| hyakuhei | Thanks all, happy holidays! | 17:59 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 17:59:55 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-12-18-17.00.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-12-18-17.00.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-12-18-17.00.log.html | 17:59 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 19:00:22 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:00 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Roll Call | 19:00 |
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| malini | o/ | 19:00 |
| mpanetta | o/ | 19:00 |
| catherineR | o/ | 19:00 |
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| obulpathi | o/ | 19:01 |
| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:01 |
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| miqui_ | hello | 19:01 |
| wbrothers | o/ | 19:01 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:01 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Review Last Weeks Action Items | 19:01 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-12-11-19.00.html | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | i had the only action item - amitgandhinz to set up a design discussion on the Message Queue Driver in early January | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | i'll set that up after the break | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | * as in the holiday break | 19:02 |
| tonytan4ever | Sounds good to me. | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | #action amitgandhinz to set up a design discussion on the Message Queue Driver in early January | 19:02 |
| miqui_ | where does the discussion take place? | 19:03 |
| miqui_ | in irc? | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui_: yes | 19:03 |
| miqui_ | ah k.. | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | i will set up a time probably arrange it at the next weekly meeting, and we can all chat about the design onthe normal irc channel at the agreed upon date/time | 19:03 |
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| cpowell | \o | 19:03 |
| miqui_ | +12 | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Review Blueprints and Bugs | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/kilo-2 | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | okay....going through the blueprints.... | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | miqui_: any update on the home doc? | 19:04 |
| miqui_ | not much....sorry guys, very slow progress on it...although spent some time doing reviews instead... | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | thanks for the reviews =) | 19:05 |
| miqui_ | sure.. | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | always great to get them and a great way to learn and keep up | 19:05 |
| miqui_ | indeed... | 19:06 |
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| amitgandhinz | malini: any update to moving the provider urls to conf files? | 19:06 |
| malini | no | 19:06 |
| malini | tht'll be in jan too | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | whats left on this one? | 19:06 |
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| malini | we currently have this for fastly & akamai | 19:07 |
| malini | need to add the rest of the providers too | 19:07 |
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| obulpathi | we have for dns too | 19:07 |
| malini | cool obulpathi | 19:07 |
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| amitgandhinz | sorry just updating the work items on that... | 19:09 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok... | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | py34 support (thats me!) | 19:09 |
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| amitgandhinz | this is implemented, i do need to update the gate jobs to start running the py3 packages | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | also relating to that, py33 jobs are currently failing in Jenkins due to an issue with sphinx stuff (unrelated to poppy) | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | someone upstream is working on it - there has been some discussion on the dev list regarding this | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: DNS plugin for Mimic | 19:11 |
| obulpathi | I finished the identity part of it | 19:11 |
| tonytan4ever | amitgandhinz: py34 will be affected by this issue too. | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: thats correct | 19:11 |
| obulpathi | make the identity plugin support global endpoints | 19:11 |
| obulpathi | and the rest is in same status | 19:11 |
| obulpathi | once I fix the dns bugs | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | will move to this one | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | any other blueprints in progress not captured/discussed here? | 19:12 |
| malini | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/endtoend-tests | 19:12 |
| wbrothers | should the akamai mimic be represented there? | 19:13 |
| malini | I was smart enough not to refer to tht in my commit message :-$ | 19:13 |
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| amitgandhinz | whats the status on this bp? | 19:14 |
| malini | amitgandhinz: the patch is merged - I have another patch for review eith some minor additions | 19:14 |
| malini | good progress | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | cool, anything else? | 19:15 |
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| malini | wbrothers had a question | 19:16 |
| malini | Shud we capture MImic + Akamai in bp? | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | wbrothers: yes i think it should | 19:16 |
| wbrothers | okie dokie | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | we should also update the wiki for providers to indicate that they should build mimic plugins for their api's | 19:16 |
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| malini | amitgandhinz: +1 | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | can you take care of that malini or wbrothers? | 19:17 |
| obulpathi | +1 for mimic api | 19:17 |
| malini | I can | 19:17 |
| wbrothers | I will assist malini | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | #action malini to add doc to cdn vendor wiki page on how to add a mimic plugin for their api | 19:18 |
| malini | thanks wbrothers | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | ok.... | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic bugs | 19:18 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1401306 | 19:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1401306 in poppy "returned links don't show https when required" [Critical,New] | 19:18 |
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| amitgandhinz | i believe this is waiting on nginx setup before poppy work begins? | 19:18 |
| tonytan4ever | This one seems to be in progress by Dev guys. | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | mpanetta: tonytan4ever ? | 19:19 |
| mpanetta | amitgandhinz: nginx is set up now. Is that one in master yet? | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | does poppy need updated code to look at the X-Forwarded-For header? | 19:19 |
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| mpanetta | If it does not have it, yes. And also X-Forwarded-Proto | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | mpanetta: no, i dont think code has been written yet. thats what we are trying to determine | 19:20 |
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| mpanetta | Ah ok | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | so its the X-Forwarded-For and X-Forwarded-Proto headers? | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | what do those contain? | 19:20 |
| tonytan4ever | I need to test this out in poppy to determine if any code is needed. | 19:20 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok tonytan4ever please work with mpanetta to figure this out and the changes needed | 19:20 |
| mpanetta | X-Forwarded-For contains the IP of the person connecting to the API, X-Forwarded-Proto is either http or https | 19:21 |
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| amitgandhinz | oic | 19:21 |
| mpanetta | In nginx I am currently forcing that header to https | 19:21 |
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| mpanetta | Much better then doing it in poppy config IMO... Once we get this working that is. | 19:22 |
| tonytan4ever | repose need to add that head to whitelist too, right ? | 19:22 |
| tonytan4ever | I mean header. | 19:22 |
| cpowell | no repose is fine | 19:22 |
| mpanetta | I don't believe so, but I can test to determine. | 19:22 |
| mpanetta | We didn't need to whitelist the other header. | 19:22 |
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| cpowell | we are not doing whitelisting, we are blacklisting | 19:23 |
| mpanetta | Yep | 19:23 |
| tonytan4ever | OK. I will work with you guys further to see if any code should be added. | 19:24 |
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| amitgandhinz | cool | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1394720 | 19:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1394720 in poppy "API Tests failing for Service Actions" [Medium,New] | 19:24 |
| tonytan4ever | If pecan is aware of this header then no code is needed. | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | this one requires the use of mimic to mimic the deploy status on the provider end | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | i think this is the last major chunk of apitests that are currently failing | 19:25 |
| malini | yeap | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | we probably just need tox to spin up docker instances with mimic linked and it should hopefully work | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | the next bug is... | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1401636 | 19:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1401636 in poppy "service gets struct in "create in progress" status" [Medium,New] | 19:26 |
| obulpathi | I am working on this one | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | ok cool | 19:26 |
| obulpathi | I am adding tests to make sure dns has 100% test coverage | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | awesome | 19:26 |
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| obulpathi | will roll out a fix tomorrow along with the tests | 19:26 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1375341 | 19:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1375341 in poppy "Error Messages in test logs" [Low,Invalid] | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui_: i saw your comments on this | 19:27 |
| miqui_ | yup | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | i had a look at the sample also, and saw the lines have TRACE, ERROR etc already assigned | 19:27 |
| miqui_ | i hope i made a good point... | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | so i think this was just a config setting missing when running the tests | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | you did =) | 19:27 |
| miqui_ | yeah... | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | i marked the bug as invalid | 19:27 |
| miqui_ | k | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | is that ok? | 19:27 |
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| miqui_ | sure +1 | 19:28 |
| miqui_ | is invalid = closed? | 19:28 |
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| amitgandhinz | kind of - there is no closed option | 19:28 |
| miqui_ | k | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1381114 | 19:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1381114 in poppy "Create Flavor - Flavor Limits not validated or saved" [Low,Confirmed] | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | im thinking of marking this as invalid too since we have a bp for this -> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/flavor-limits | 19:29 |
| malini | works for mw | 19:29 |
| malini | me | 19:29 |
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| obulpathi | good for me | 19:30 |
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| tonytan4ever | k | 19:30 |
| amitgandhinz | ok everything else has a patch needing review/merge or is already done | 19:30 |
| amitgandhinz | lots of bugs found and closed so good work =) | 19:30 |
| malini | wooot! | 19:30 |
| obulpathi | wooot :) | 19:31 |
| amitgandhinz | just need the py3 issue resolved upstream so more can be merged lol | 19:31 |
| wbrothers | Yay! | 19:31 |
| cpowell | yes | 19:31 |
| miqui_ | ...nice... | 19:31 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic New Items | 19:31 |
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| amitgandhinz | Nothing on the agenda here =P | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:32 |
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| amitgandhinz | anyone want to discuss anything - note there will be no meeting the next 2 weeks | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | Christmas Day and News Years Day both are on Thursday | 19:32 |
| miqui_ | amit | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | yes miqui_ | 19:33 |
| miqui_ | on the openstack project TC decision | 19:33 |
| tonytan4ever | That is not coincidence | 19:33 |
| miqui_ | then i think this is good for poopy right? | 19:33 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20141202-project-structure-reform-spec.html | 19:33 |
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| amitgandhinz | so for context, the TC has been reevaluating how projects are accepted into Openstack | 19:34 |
| amitgandhinz | the incubation and graduation process etc | 19:34 |
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| amitgandhinz | and how it stretches various parts of the openstack org as more projects come on board | 19:34 |
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| amitgandhinz | so we should start to see more fleshed out decisions on this in the new year | 19:34 |
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| amitgandhinz | but i think this is a good direction | 19:34 |
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| amitgandhinz | it means that new projects such as poppy have a better chance of being widely accepted | 19:35 |
| miqui_ | would this help in faster incubation for projects like poopy? | 19:35 |
| miqui_ | poppy... | 19:35 |
| miqui_ | gees i cant type today... | 19:35 |
| amitgandhinz | i think the concept of incubation and graduation go away | 19:35 |
| miqui_ | hmmm | 19:35 |
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| amitgandhinz | instead it becomes "are you following the openstack process" | 19:35 |
| miqui_ | ..interesting... | 19:35 |
| obulpathi | thats better | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | and if you meet certain requirements then you become "openstack" | 19:36 |
| miqui_ | make sense... | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | and there is a core openstack that is distributed | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | but then all these other projects that work within the ecosystem are also available | 19:36 |
| malini | it becomes sort of like publishing an app in the app store | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | they arent required to be installed by every openstack vendor | 19:36 |
| malini | the best app wins | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | but they are available | 19:36 |
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| amitgandhinz | and they will work with all distributions | 19:36 |
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| amitgandhinz | any questions/concerns on this | 19:38 |
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| amitgandhinz | i think we will get more info in the coming months on this | 19:38 |
| miqui_ | ..nope...thanks all clear | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | cool | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | thanks for bringing it up | 19:38 |
| miqui_ | our goal does not change: make poppy a good option to use | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | exactly | 19:38 |
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| amitgandhinz | To provide a generic, vendor-neutral API that wraps provisioning instructions for CDN vendors that support it. | 19:39 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:39 |
| amitgandhinz | anything else ya'll want to talk about? | 19:40 |
| obulpathi | nothing from me | 19:40 |
| malini | nothing from me | 19:40 |
| tonytan4ever | I am good | 19:40 |
| wbrothers | it's "y'all" | 19:40 |
| miqui_ | am good | 19:40 |
| catherineR | good here! | 19:40 |
| wbrothers | Good Here | 19:40 |
| malini | wbrothers: there is more than one right way | 19:40 |
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| amitgandhinz | okay, thanks ya'll ! =P | 19:41 |
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| amitgandhinz | happy holidays | 19:41 |
| malini | :S | 19:41 |
| miqui_ | thanks...and have a good break folks! | 19:41 |
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| wbrothers | :| | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 19:41:31 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-12-18-19.00.html | 19:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-12-18-19.00.txt | 19:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-12-18-19.00.log.html | 19:41 |
| miqui_ | thanks for gibing me opporutnity to collab with you.... | 19:41 |
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| malini | we are glad to have you miqui :) | 19:41 |
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| amitgandhinz | miqui_: thats what its all about | 19:42 |
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