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| baoli | #startmeeting PCI Passthrough | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 23 13:00:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:00 |
| baoli | Hello | 13:01 |
| yongilhe | hello | 13:01 |
| irenab | Hi | 13:01 |
| pczesno | Hi | 13:01 |
| beagles | hi | 13:01 |
| yongilhe | i guess next meeting should cancel | 13:01 |
| ijw | ello | 13:01 |
| yongilhe | hi, ijw | 13:02 |
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| baoli | I will be off until after new year. | 13:02 |
| baoli | Should we have the next meeting on Jan. 6th, then | 13:03 |
| yongilhe | baoli, sure, happy new year. | 13:03 |
| baoli | yonilhe, you too, and merry christmas and happy holidays to everyone | 13:03 |
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| pczesno | thanks, happy holidays to everyone | 13:04 |
| irenab | happy holidays | 13:04 |
| baoli | Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Passthrough | 13:04 |
| baoli | #topic, bugs | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ", bugs (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 13:04 | |
| baoli | any update? | 13:05 |
| baoli | no new bugs | 13:06 |
| baoli | #topic, reviews | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ", reviews (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 13:06 | |
| irenab | baoli: I updated status of neutron specs | 13:06 |
| baoli | irenab, you mean the blueprints? | 13:07 |
| baoli | on the agenda? | 13:07 |
| irenab | baoli: yes | 13:07 |
| irenab | baoli: sorry, it is next topic | 13:08 |
| baoli | irenab, no problem. | 13:08 |
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| baoli | One issue with PCI passthrough that has been there for a long time is the pci init. | 13:09 |
| baoli | We opened a few bugs | 13:09 |
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| baoli | but we need to come to consensus on the solution. and drive it to completion | 13:09 |
| yongilhe | to resolve the critical bug, i had to collection the status from db | 13:10 |
| irenab | baoli: all new bugs are tagged for pci, do you want to provide a link? | 13:10 |
| yongilhe | and the new patch is released, in this way, we don't need reading back the db at the pci manager init. | 13:11 |
| yongilhe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131321/ | 13:12 |
| baoli | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82206/ | 13:12 |
| baoli | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102298/ | 13:12 |
| baoli | a couple of reviews on the issue: | 13:13 |
| baoli | The first one is abandoned, but provides some context/comments on the issue | 13:13 |
| baoli | yongilhe, I think that the reconciliation should be performed explicitly during init time. | 13:14 |
| yongilhe | baoli, why | 13:14 |
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| baoli | yongilhe, the purpose is to make sure that the contents in the DB table and the PCI devices on a node are the same. | 13:16 |
| yongilhe | boali, it's ture, but don't neccessary to sync it at init, this way is also works:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131321/ | 13:17 |
| yongilhe | in this way, we colleciton the pci device back from instance, just like vcpu/memory resource | 13:18 |
| yongilhe | then help to reduce the resize resource management | 13:18 |
| yongilhe | complex | 13:19 |
| yongilhe | and use mem/vcpu like resouce management method help pci better fit to current resource traker | 13:20 |
| baoli | yongilhe, I'll take a further look and comment on the patch offline. | 13:20 |
| yongilhe | baoli, thanks, and think of this method, it does help us in further resource management like resize, db sync ... | 13:21 |
| baoli | yongilhe, sure. | 13:22 |
| baoli | anything on the reviews? | 13:22 |
| baoli | #topic Blueprints | 13:23 |
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| baoli | I attended the last nova meeting, and ask for considerations for the BPs we submitted so far. Later I sent an email to the alias for the same. | 13:24 |
| irenab | baoli: thank you for pushing it | 13:24 |
| baoli | irenab, so yours is rejected | 13:25 |
| yongilhe | thanks,baoli | 13:25 |
| irenab | baoli: yes | 13:25 |
| baoli | We had the similar debate long back, and it came back again. | 13:25 |
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| irenab | baoli: vnic_type setting? | 13:25 |
| pczesno | baoli: is there hope to get anything in? | 13:25 |
| baoli | irenab, yes. | 13:25 |
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| baoli | So one of the concerns is about the CI tests | 13:26 |
| irenab | baoli: I think that initially have this setting on network lavel was a compromise, we actually want https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/api-specify-vnic-type | 13:26 |
| yongilhe | baoli, irenab, CI became very ugent thing now | 13:27 |
| shaohe_feng | baoli: can I get exception? for the deadline has passed. | 13:27 |
| baoli | shaohe_feng, the thing is that it's not us to decide. We need core's sponsorship, and the cores insist SR-IOV is not kilo's priority. | 13:28 |
| baoli | So we can only hope and continue our work. | 13:28 |
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| baoli | yongilhe, yes, so CI is very important | 13:28 |
| irenab | baoli: same is for neutron side, but I think we should be more visible on each other blueprint reviews | 13:29 |
| yongilhe | i recently push our CI to online, hope we get it soon | 13:29 |
| baoli | yongilhe, what kind of tests do you have right now? | 13:29 |
| irenab | yonglihe: I saw yout tests on github. Great job! | 13:29 |
| yongilhe | basic pci testcases | 13:30 |
| yongilhe | irenab, thanks, we had to land some test cases, when it works, we add more | 13:30 |
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| irenab | https://github.com/intel-hw-ci/Intel-Openstack-Hardware-CI/tree/master/pci_testcases | 13:30 |
| yongilhe | irenab, thank it just this link. | 13:31 |
| baoli | yongilhe, that's great. Just noticed your stuff on Github. | 13:31 |
| yongilhe | baoli， just uploading today | 13:32 |
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| irenab | I wanted to have short discussion regarding this rejected spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138753/ | 13:33 |
| yongilhe | irenab, had a question want to consult you. | 13:34 |
| baoli | irenab, just thinking the same argument could be used agaist https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138808/6/specs/kilo/approved/api-specify-vnic-type.rst | 13:34 |
| irenab | I am worried regarding note from neutron driver team: suggests that you continue to work on building consensus and propose in a later cycle | 13:34 |
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| baoli | irenab, we implemented https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138808/6/specs/kilo/approved/api-specify-vnic-type.rst initially, but got rejected, and had to create port first. | 13:35 |
| yongilhe | irenab, how does your Inc's CI been approved to comments to neutron/nova? | 13:35 |
| baoli | irenab, so the basic question is: who is going to be the user, and should he/she be allowed to specify the vnic-type, is this just a backend implementation? | 13:36 |
| irenab | yonglihe: please chat with omrim regarding any CI tech details | 13:36 |
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| yongilhe | irenab, ok, then, i will catch him some day later, thanks. | 13:37 |
| irenab | baoli: I actually though we already after this discussion, at least in neutron. We had long discussion during Icehouse time frame | 13:37 |
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| irenab | I do not think it is backend implementation, but actually request for certain vNIC type | 13:39 |
| pczesno | baoli, the user specifies nova boot --nic , so he should also specify vnic_type | 13:39 |
| baoli | irenab, I agree. so the assumption is that a cloud allows sr-iov ports and non-sriov-ports to coexist | 13:40 |
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| irenab | baoli: exactly | 13:40 |
| irenab | But I am not sure how we can get consensus to make some progress | 13:41 |
| pczesno | baoli, irenab, i think we should work on providing admin controll via qoutas etc. and use that as a argument to give vnic_type controll to the user | 13:41 |
| irenab | pczesno: did you see the objections on the spec I proposed? | 13:41 |
| pczesno | irenab, yes i did | 13:42 |
| pczesno | irenab, and i agree it's wierd to set vnic_type on logical network | 13:42 |
| baoli | the overarching concern is the exposure of vnic_type to the users. | 13:42 |
| irenab | pczesno: I think it could improve user experience, but the spec you propose is better option | 13:43 |
| pczesno | irenab, yes i agree :) | 13:44 |
| baoli | irenab, pczesno, if it's ok to expose the vnic_type to the user, then both proposals are complimentary. | 13:44 |
| baoli | that's how I think about it. | 13:44 |
| pczesno | baoli, sure, from our perspective | 13:45 |
| irenab | the bottom line is that user experice if very unfriendly now, and seems we cannot improve it in Kilo | 13:45 |
| irenab | pczesno: is there any work on quota proposal you mentioned? | 13:46 |
| pczesno | irenab, i don't think so | 13:47 |
| baoli | irenab, pczesno, may be we can look at the flavor proposal again. | 13:47 |
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| baoli | But in any case, I think that exposure of vnic-type to use is fine. And to compromise, flavor may be enhanced to support vnic_type as well. | 13:48 |
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| baoli | s/to use/to user/ | 13:48 |
| pczesno | baoli, if there is no other way, then let's try with flavors | 13:48 |
| irenab | baoli: but it is less flexible, since we want vnic_type per --net and not per VM | 13:49 |
| baoli | When I look at the offload proposal, it appears to be possible to support the syntax port.? in the flaovr. | 13:49 |
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| irenab | pczesno: your spec is still under review, so maybe there is some hope | 13:49 |
| baoli | irenab, pczesno, I agree it's not flexible, but does address the concerns. | 13:50 |
| pczesno | irenab, not much hope i'm afraid | 13:50 |
| irenab | baoli: right. | 13:50 |
| pczesno | baoli, i think what we have right now is better than flavours | 13:50 |
| pczesno | baoli, at least the user can do what he wants | 13:51 |
| baoli | pczesno, irenab, may be all of them have reasons to coexist | 13:51 |
| baoli | And it may be a way to convince others so that we can continue the owrk | 13:51 |
| baoli | s/owrk/work | 13:52 |
| irenab | baoli: by flavor you mean VM flavor, right? | 13:52 |
| pczesno | baoli, if the spec is not approved i'll try to start a discussion | 13:52 |
| yongilhe | baoli， coexist or what ever, does we had good use cases to show, how that is neccessary? | 13:52 |
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| baoli | irenab, yes. | 13:53 |
| baoli | But it's just a quick thought of mine. | 13:53 |
| baoli | So let's consider the merits of each proposal | 13:54 |
| irenab | baoli: I guess it depends how much work it will require. If it requires nova changes, I think it should worth the efforts | 13:55 |
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| pczesno | baoli, time is almost up, can we jump to next topic | 13:56 |
| pczesno | ? | 13:56 |
| baoli | pczesno, sure | 13:56 |
| irenab | neutron split? | 13:56 |
| pczesno | irenab, yes | 13:56 |
| baoli | $topic neutron split | 13:56 |
| irenab | I discussed this durng ML2 meeting, got vague answers | 13:56 |
| pczesno | irenab, does the MD have to be in separate repo now , or can it stay in tree for kilo? | 13:57 |
| irenab | So then discussed on neutrin IRC, and intially it was agreed to keep it in the tree | 13:57 |
| pczesno | irenab, ok | 13:57 |
| irenab | check here to validate I understood correctly: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2014-12-17.log | 13:58 |
| irenab | Starting at 2014-12-17T18:52:44 | 13:58 |
| pczesno | irenab, thanks | 13:58 |
| irenab | pczesno: np | 13:58 |
| baoli | irenab, so all the srioc MDs will stay in tree? | 13:58 |
| irenab | baoli: The one which is already upstream | 13:59 |
| baoli | ireanb, I see. thanks | 13:59 |
| irenab | but I must admit, it is first release I find it hard to understand what is going on in neutron ... | 14:00 |
| baoli | Ok, time is up. So we'lll have our next meeting on Jan. 6th. | 14:00 |
| yongilhe | sure, bye, everyone | 14:00 |
| pczesno | happy new year everyone | 14:01 |
| irenab | bye, enjouy the holidays | 14:01 |
| baoli | thanks everyone, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays again! | 14:01 |
| baoli | #endmeeting | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 23 14:01:34 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-12-23-13.00.html | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-12-23-13.00.txt | 14:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 23 16:02:24 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers Our Agenda | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:03 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:03 |
| diga_ | Digambar Patil | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | hello Diga | 16:03 |
| hongbin | Hongbin Lu | 16:03 |
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| diga_ | Hi Adrian | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | I expect attendance to be thin today. Few Americans are at work this week due to the holidays. | 16:04 |
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| diga_ | yep | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | hi hongbin | 16:04 |
| hongbin | Hi Adrian | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | any announcements from team members? | 16:05 |
| diga_ | Nothing from my side | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint Review | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/milestone-1 M1 Blueprints | 16:07 |
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| diga_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-backend-docker | 16:08 |
| diga_ | almost code is checked in | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | Diga, that's excellent news. I have seen progress on your review on this topic. | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | so I'm looking forward to additional contributions, and will be ready to review them by Friday. | 16:08 |
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| diga_ | yes | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | you might also want to update https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-backend-docker-api once we complete implementation | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | do you need assistance from any other Stackers? | 16:10 |
| diga_ | yes | 16:10 |
| diga_ | some of the code is already implemented | 16:10 |
| diga_ | I'll try to oush all the code by this friday on the docker-api | 16:10 |
| diga_ | see this code is merged for docker backend - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143145/ | 16:11 |
| diga_ | push** | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | ok, and if there is anything I can do to help, please let me know | 16:11 |
| diga_ | I am adding some extra functionality to docker backend for the remaning functions | 16:11 |
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| diga_ | sure | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | any other work items that require team discussion? | 16:12 |
| diga_ | but you willl be on leave for next two days, right ? | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | I will be out for most of that time | 16:12 |
| diga_ | okay | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | but I will be able to get messages form you on Hangouts, and I will occasionally show up on IRC | 16:13 |
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| adrian_otto | I will make it a point to greet the #openstack-containers channel at the times I am around. | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | I expect to work business hours US/Pacific on Dec 26 though | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:14 |
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| diga_ | Good, then I'll contact you on hangout when I need help | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: how are things with you? | 16:14 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto, I want to know if anything I can help for the dev | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | yes, indeed. first I ask that you take a look at the open reviews here: | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+magnum,n,z Magnum Code Reviews | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | the more actionable input provided on the reviews, the better our software gets | 16:16 |
| hongbin | sure | 16:16 |
| hongbin | but I am not familiar with the code base now | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | I could also use some help in identifying parts of Magnum that do not have unit tests or functional tests (this is almost all of the code) | 16:17 |
| hongbin | I will try | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | I'd like to arrange to find a "Tech Debt" bug against each of them. | 16:17 |
| hongbin | ok | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | this is a way that we can track our debt, and a way to reference those work efforts and measure them to completion | 16:17 |
| hongbin | k | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | during milestone-2 we aim to get "good" test coverage of the Magnum code. | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | we view this as valuable, because our gate tests can alert us of regressions as we iteratively add features | 16:19 |
| hongbin | kk | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | if we don't invest in tests, then we get very little value from the gating system | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | thansk, those are the top ones in my list right now | 16:19 |
| diga_ | yep | 16:19 |
| hongbin | k, one more thing | 16:19 |
| hongbin | do you have a chance to look at the review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142508/ | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | another area you could help is by commenting on the spec, to be sure we have all of your potential use cases addressed | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | exactly what I meant! | 16:20 |
| hongbin | yep | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, I will study that and make remarks in Gerrit. Thanks so much for contributing that. | 16:21 |
| hongbin | k | 16:21 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, let's wrap up early today. I expect to review all open items today. | 16:25 |
| diga_ | yes | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, team. Take care and enjoy a couple of quiet days. | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 23 16:26:02 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-12-23-16.02.html | 16:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-12-23-16.02.txt | 16:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-12-23-16.02.log.html | 16:26 |
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| serg_melikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 23 17:00:39 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serg_melikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| serg_melikyan | Hi, folks! | 17:00 |
| serg_melikyan | o/ | 17:00 |
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| serg_melikyan | I am alone today on this meeting? | 17:03 |
| katyafervent | I'm here | 17:04 |
| ruhe | o/ | 17:04 |
| ruhe | sorry, i haven't seen start of the meeting | 17:04 |
| serg_melikyan | :) | 17:04 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:05 |
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| serg_melikyan | #info no action items from previous meeting | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Discuss candidate blueprints for the K2 | 17:05 |
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| ruhe | is Stan here today? | 17:06 |
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| serg_melikyan | We already started K2 with work on the bugs and blueprints moved from the K1, but I think we also to review and assign blueprints to the K2 milestone start with = | 17:07 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: nope | 17:07 |
| ruhe | serg_melikyan: i agree with your plan | 17:08 |
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| serg_melikyan | I propose to start doing today and continue on the next week. This should be enough to discuss all blueprint that we plan to implement in K2 | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | *doing this | 17:09 |
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| ruhe | no objections | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | And we need to have all specs (at least in draft state) for all Blueprints that we would assign to the K2 until the next meeting | 17:10 |
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| ruhe | ++ | 17:10 |
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| serg_melikyan | Let's start? | 17:11 |
| StanLagun | hello | 17:11 |
| ruhe | Hi StanLagun! | 17:11 |
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| ruhe | serg_melikyan: let's start :) | 17:13 |
| serg_melikyan | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-agent-timeouts | 17:13 |
| serg_melikyan | this one is actually moved from the previous milestone and it's lack proper specification | 17:13 |
| ruhe | serg_melikyan: who's going to implement this? | 17:14 |
| serg_melikyan | I think Dmitry Dovbii is started working on this blueprint | 17:14 |
| ruhe | is he around? | 17:15 |
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| serg_melikyan | No, | 17:15 |
| serg_melikyan | I think he is working on his graduation work, he is graduating from university in few weeks. | 17:15 |
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| serg_melikyan | Probably that is why he is not here today\ | 17:16 |
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| ruhe | ok. graduation is more important :) | 17:16 |
| serg_melikyan | I think we can include this blueprint to the K2, and if would not have spec for this BP until next week, we will just remove milestone | 17:17 |
| ruhe | agree | 17:17 |
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| serg_melikyan | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-agent-timeouts will be included to the K2, but will be removed if we would not have specification until next week | 17:18 |
| serg_melikyan | #action Dmitry Dovbii, write specification for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-agent-timeouts | 17:18 |
| serg_melikyan | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/migrate-to-yaql-vnext - is next one | 17:19 |
| StanLagun | serg_melikyan, maybe we need to split this blueprint into 2: timeouts and rabbitmq auth server that may be used to also control timeouts | 17:19 |
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| ruhe | migration to new yaql doesn't seem to be feasible in K2 because yaql is not ready yet | 17:19 |
| serg_melikyan | StanLagun: Possibly | 17:19 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe, what do you mean? | 17:19 |
| StanLagun | ruhe: this also includes developing yaql 1.0 | 17:20 |
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| StanLagun | so the task is to write new yaql and migrate Murano to it | 17:20 |
| ruhe | yeah, how can murano migrate to new yaql, if new yaql is not released yet | 17:20 |
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| serg_melikyan | StanLagun: I think we need to split migrate-to-yaql-vnext to the two blueprints. One in Murano scope and another one is in YAQL scope | 17:20 |
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| katyafervent | So we need one more task) | 17:21 |
| StanLagun | we can release yaql before K2 | 17:21 |
| ruhe | there probably should be a separate spec for yaql itself | 17:21 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: +1 | 17:21 |
| serg_melikyan | katyafervent: ? | 17:21 |
| ruhe | StanLagun: i remember you wanted to create yaql-specs? | 17:21 |
| katyafervent | I meant we need to split this blueprint | 17:21 |
| StanLagun | ruhe: I will write spec as soon as I finish yaql PoC so that I know exactly what to write there :) | 17:22 |
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| ruhe | ok | 17:22 |
| serg_melikyan | So what about blueprint? Should we postpone it until YAQL will be released? | 17:23 |
| ruhe | yeah, i think it should be postponed | 17:23 |
| serg_melikyan | other votes? | 17:23 |
| StanLagun | We should finish all yaql-related tasks before K2 | 17:24 |
| StanLagun | including migration | 17:24 |
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| ruhe | StanLagun: we should, but, when is new yaql going to be released? | 17:25 |
| StanLagun | the plan is to develop new yaql and yaql-migration by NY and then we will have 2 weeks to finilize it, write spec, review and make changes according to review | 17:25 |
| ruhe | this plan sounds good to me | 17:26 |
| StanLagun | ruhe: before K2 so that migration can be released in K2. Another option is to release yaql in K2 and have migration code in gerrit and release it in K3 | 17:26 |
| serg_melikyan | I would say that we need to start with spec for Murano, to create yaql-specs + write BP + implement it + release YAQL 1.0, and return to the BP implementation in the Murano | 17:26 |
| StanLagun | but anyway we need to write everything in K2 | 17:26 |
| serg_melikyan | Once we will have both specs, we can assign this bp to the milestone | 17:27 |
| serg_melikyan | StanLagun: +1 | 17:27 |
| serg_melikyan | do we agree on this approach? | 17:28 |
| ruhe | ok. so the plan it to wait for a spec for yaql, code for new yaql, new release of yaql, a spec for murano to migrate to yaql and then assign that spec to K2. right? :) | 17:28 |
| StanLagun | I just cannot write spec before I finish yaql PoC and this is 90% of implementation. I also need to write migration in parallel to make sure new yaql is good for Murano | 17:28 |
| serg_melikyan | I would say that we need to wait for specs | 17:28 |
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| ruhe | StanLagun: btw, would it cause incompatible changes in muranopl? | 17:29 |
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| StanLagun | ruhe: in theory - yes. In practice nothing is going to break. At least now. And then we will have versioning that would allow us to break things without loosing compatibility | 17:30 |
| StanLagun | But after we migrate to yaql 1.0 there would be new features in MuranoPL based on yaql 1.0 | 17:31 |
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| ruhe | StanLagun: then i suggest you to think about making sure that applications on stackforge/murano-apps don't get broken once murano migrates to new version of yaql | 17:31 |
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| ruhe | maybe versioning should be added first? | 17:32 |
| StanLagun | ruhe: I do think of this. But there is no 100% guarantee | 17:32 |
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| ruhe | serg_melikyan: please let us know if we're taking too much time per to discuss one BP | 17:32 |
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| StanLagun | Versioning would not help because we cannot use 2 versions of yaql in one project | 17:32 |
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| serg_melikyan | ruhe: I have only one more BP to discuss | 17:33 |
| ruhe | ok | 17:33 |
| serg_melikyan | so it's oke | 17:33 |
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| ruhe | i guess we can move on. we'll discuss details of this BP in spec | 17:34 |
| ruhe | at this moment we have general agreement on approach to this | 17:34 |
| serg_melikyan | #info we agreed to have two specs for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/migrate-to-yaql-vnext in yaql-specs and in Murano | 17:36 |
| serg_melikyan | #action StanLagun is going to write specs | 17:37 |
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| serg_melikyan | #action StanLagun is going to write specs for migrate-to-yaql-vnext | 17:37 |
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| StanLagun | serg_melikyan, but not by the next community meeting | 17:37 |
| ruhe | serg_melikyan: jfyi, you can use undo prefixed with # | 17:37 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: didn't know that, thank you | 17:38 |
| serg_melikyan | #undo | 17:38 |
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| serg_melikyan | #action StanLagun is going to write specs for migrate-to-yaql-vnext | 17:38 |
| serg_melikyan | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-versioning | 17:39 |
| serg_melikyan | This is really big blueprint/spec | 17:40 |
| serg_melikyan | I think we need to define smaller scope to implement in K, and in K2 particularly | 17:40 |
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| serg_melikyan | ruhe? StanLagun? katyafervent? | 17:41 |
| ruhe | i'd prefer to hear from StanLagun first | 17:42 |
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| StanLagun | agree | 17:43 |
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| serg_melikyan | #info we agreed to discuss smaller scope for murano-versioning | 17:46 |
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| serg_melikyan | Any other blueprints that we need to discuss? | 17:46 |
| ruhe | is that all work planned for K2? | 17:47 |
| serg_melikyan | I will send e-mail with details about todays discussion and agreements. | 17:47 |
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| serg_melikyan | ruhe: yes, plus tons of bugs that we shifted from k1 | 17:47 |
| serg_melikyan | plus work on Policy Guided Fullfilment & Chef/Puppet Configuration | 17:48 |
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| ruhe | serg_melikyan: would it make sense to update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Murano/Roadmap and map each feature with kilo milestone? | 17:48 |
| serg_melikyan | But unfortunately Radek and Henar are not on todays meeting | 17:48 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe, thank you for suggestion | 17:48 |
| serg_melikyan | #action serg_melikyan will update roadmap mapping BPs to milestones | 17:49 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:49 |
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| katyafervent2 | will we enable category management? | 17:49 |
| ruhe | katyafervent2: category management from UI? | 17:50 |
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| katyafervent2 | yes | 17:51 |
| ruhe | i personally think that's a very good improvement for UI | 17:51 |
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| serg_melikyan | katyafervent2: link to the bp? | 17:52 |
| katyafervent2 | i have a spec for that. this feature will be avaliable for admins only | 17:52 |
| katyafervent2 | so please approve so we will implement it someday in kilo | 17:52 |
| ruhe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139630/ | 17:53 |
| serg_melikyan | We will approve them on the next meetings | 17:53 |
| katyafervent2 | i mean review first and than approve :) | 17:53 |
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| ruhe | serg_melikyan: i think we owe katyafervent2 a review of this spec | 17:53 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: for sure | 17:54 |
| serg_melikyan | katyafervent2: sorry, will do it ASAP | 17:54 |
| ruhe | i don't think we need to wait for next meeting to approve it | 17:54 |
| ruhe | katyafervent2: you also have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137340/ (Remove name field from fields in dynamic UI) | 17:55 |
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| ruhe | katyafervent2: would you like to implement it in K2 too? | 17:55 |
| serg_melikyan | I think it's actually on review | 17:56 |
| serg_melikyan | and included to K2 (actually moved from K1) | 17:56 |
| ruhe | ah, ok | 17:56 |
| ruhe | katyafervent2: any other work you plan to do in k2? | 17:56 |
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| serg_melikyan | we run out of time :( | 17:59 |
| serg_melikyan | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 23 17:59:25 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-12-23-17.00.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-12-23-17.00.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-12-23-17.00.log.html | 17:59 |
| serg_melikyan | Let's discuss further details in #murano | 17:59 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum team meeting | 21:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 23 21:05:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum team meeting)" | 21:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:05 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic roll call | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: Solum team meeting)" | 21:05 | |
| muralia | murali allada | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | devdatta kulkarni | 21:05 |
| akshayc | Akshay Chhajed | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | hi akshayc | 21:05 |
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| _ramin | Ramin Barati | 21:05 |
| akshayc | hi | 21:05 |
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| devkulkarni | hi Ramin | 21:06 |
| _ramin | hi | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | lets wait for a minute to see if anyone else joins us | 21:06 |
| akshayc | ok | 21:07 |
| keyvan_ | Keyvan Sadeghi | 21:07 |
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| devkulkarni | akshayc, _ramin: do you want to introduce yourselves? | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | hi keyvan_ | 21:07 |
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| devkulkarni | glad you could make the meeting finally :) | 21:07 |
| keyvan_ | hi devdatta | 21:07 |
| _ramin | well, we and keyvan_ are from the same team realy | 21:08 |
| keyvan_ | yeah finally :) cheers | 21:08 |
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| devkulkarni | oh okay | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | :) | 21:08 |
| _ramin | so i'll let him do the the introduction | 21:08 |
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| devkulkarni | a warm welcome to your team | 21:08 |
| keyvan_ | thank you very much | 21:08 |
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| devkulkarni | in solum community. looks like most of the team is out due to holidays | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | should we meet, or wait until next week? | 21:09 |
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| devkulkarni | we have new contributors today.. we could chat for few minutes understanding their interest and use case may be? | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:10 |
| openstack | adrian_otto: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | what does everyone think? | 21:10 |
| keyvan_ | hi adrian | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | let me end meeting first | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | I had started one | 21:10 |
| akshayc | and dev environment | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | yes — that too akshayc | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: I will end meeting and you can start again | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:11 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 23 21:11:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-12-23-21.05.html | 21:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-12-23-21.05.txt | 21:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-12-23-21.05.log.html | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: now you can start it again | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | oh, you did not need to do that | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 23 21:12:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:12 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:12 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:12 |
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| devkulkarni | devdatta kulkarni | 21:12 |
| muralia | murali allada | 21:12 |
| keyvan_ | keyvan sadeghi | 21:12 |
| akshayc | Akshay Chhajed | 21:12 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum Our Agenda | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | (updating that, one moment) | 21:14 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:15 | |
| adrian_otto | agenda updated, reload. | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | no announcements prepared. Any announcements form team members? | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | Since we changed the meeting time I've been having trouble with my calendar entry | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | I thought I had it fixed, but I missed the meeting reminder again this week | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | please accept my deepest apologies for my late arrivals. | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | I'll be sure that's resolved and that we begin on time next week. | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | next week we are scheduled to meet on 2014-12-30 at 2100 UTC | 21:16 |
| akshayc | ok | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | will that work for everyone? | 21:17 |
| keyvan_ | fine for us | 21:17 |
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| muralia | yes | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | ok, the week after would be 2015-01-06 at the same time — 2100 UTC | 21:18 |
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| adrian_otto | so there is no reason to cancel meetings for holidays, correct? | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | right | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | ok, cool. | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | unless folks want to cancel next week's meeting | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | #topic New Contributors | 21:18 |
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| adrian_otto | welcome to keyvan_ and akshayc | 21:18 |
| keyvan_ | thanks adrian | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | would you like to give a quick introduction to the team? | 21:19 |
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| adrian_otto | perhaps about where you reside, and a description of your interest in Solum | 21:19 |
| keyvan_ | sure, Keyvan Sadeghi, 26, current loc: Iran, graduated Artificial Intelligence from Southampton | 21:20 |
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| akshayc | hi. I am Akshay. I have used Openstack part of my master's project at NJIT (graduated) | 21:20 |
| akshayc | i am located in NJ. | 21:20 |
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| keyvan_ | CEO of the yet to be named startup trying to create the Heroku of Iran | 21:21 |
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| adrian_otto | we are thrilled to have you join us. I understand you also have a couple of other team members who may also participate? | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | cool. nice to know your backgrounds! | 21:21 |
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| keyvan_ | yes, _ramin, who just ran out off allowed internet traffic | 21:21 |
| keyvan_ | and back :) | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | welcome _ramin | 21:22 |
| _ramin | sry | 21:22 |
| _ramin | I'm back | 21:22 |
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| keyvan_ | ramin would you like give an intro? | 21:23 |
| _ramin | well | 21:23 |
| keyvan_ | age, location, why you are interested in solum? | 21:23 |
| _ramin | me and keyvan are trying to start startup | 21:23 |
| _ramin | here in Iran | 21:23 |
| _ramin | and we can use Solum and Openstack combined power and promise for our platform | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | so if you need a little help getting started, please find us in #solum, and you can always reach out to me individually if there is something I can do to lend a hand. | 21:24 |
| _ramin | sure, will do | 21:24 |
| muralia | welcome guys. this is exciting. | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | I'm sure keyvan_ has my contact details | 21:25 |
| keyvan_ | sure thing, thanks adrian | 21:25 |
| keyvan_ | i do | 21:25 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 21:25 |
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| _ramin | tnx muralia | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | any open items to check from last week? | 21:25 |
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| keyvan_ | do we just reference bug numbers like #1308690 in here? | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | keyvan_: just a moment, we will get there in just a moment | 21:27 |
| keyvan_ | sorry | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | there were no actions last week | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 21:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint/Task Review (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:28 | |
| adrian_otto | keyvan_: this is where we cover specific work items like bugs and blueprints that require team discussion | 21:28 |
| keyvan_ | nice | 21:29 |
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| keyvan_ | and the referencing convention is? | 21:29 |
| adrian_otto | you put in #link http://url/to/item Title Here | 21:29 |
| adrian_otto | and we can cover each one | 21:29 |
| muralia | heres the bug keyvan_ is talking about. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1308690 | 21:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1308690 in solum "Improvement: Add a Dockerfile for deploying Solum" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 21:29 |
| keyvan_ | yes, thanks, that is the one | 21:30 |
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| adrian_otto | irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1308690 Improvement: Add a Dockerfile for deploying Solum | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | ack | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1308690 Improvement: Add a Dockerfile for deploying Solum | 21:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1308690 in solum "Improvement: Add a Dockerfile for deploying Solum" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | ok, that's what we needed for it to be recorded in the minutes | 21:31 |
| adrian_otto | keyvan_: how are things going with this? | 21:31 |
| keyvan_ | what i did was to set up a dev environment | 21:31 |
| keyvan_ | i have a vmware ubuntu 14.04 box with devstack installed | 21:32 |
| keyvan_ | i believe next step is to decode vagrantfile and re-write it in docker | 21:32 |
| keyvan_ | that is, do what setup.py does via docker, if im right | 21:32 |
| keyvan_ | am I? | 21:33 |
| devkulkarni | sort of.. | 21:33 |
| devkulkarni | let me pull up the details.. | 21:33 |
| devkulkarni | here is what I have in mind for that bug: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87782/ | 21:34 |
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| devkulkarni | the Vagrantfile sets everything up | 21:34 |
| devkulkarni | to start all the solum services and the other openstack services required by solum | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/87782 Make solum buildable into docker container | 21:35 |
| keyvan_ | well, above was my understanding of your comment | 21:35 |
| devkulkarni | it uses local.conf.vm/local.conf.docker | 21:35 |
| keyvan_ | right | 21:35 |
| devkulkarni | and also sets things up using the scripts from here https://github.com/stackforge/solum/tree/master/contrib/devstack | 21:35 |
| devkulkarni | right | 21:35 |
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| muralia | devkulkarni: your suggestion mentions running all services in one container. do we want to do that or run them in separate containers? | 21:35 |
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| _ramin | well, that's sth that we wanted to ask here | 21:36 |
| keyvan_ | aha, that was something i actually wanted to ask | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: we might need both. simpler would be to start with all in one probably | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | at least that is what I think. could be wrong | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | keyvan_: | 21:36 |
| muralia | sure, the right thing would be to use separate containers. thats the docker model. | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | I think whether to do it in a single setup or separate could be done as part of the investigation | 21:37 |
| devkulkarni | sure | 21:37 |
| muralia | but i get what you are saying, it should be easy to run all services in one go. | 21:37 |
| muralia | so maybe a script to run different containers and hook them up would be nice | 21:37 |
| _ramin | should we chack for the existaqnce of the required services? | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | depends on what is the easier path as the first step | 21:38 |
| _ramin | cuz u know, they might be available already | 21:38 |
| keyvan_ | and in the different containers, we don't just invoke setup.py for the module, like the previous patch, right? | 21:38 |
| muralia | yes, the dockerfile will start the right service with 'Docker run' | 21:39 |
| keyvan_ | i mean, connecting bits and pieces from different services shall be done in docker? | 21:39 |
| keyvan_ | and do the dockerfiles for different services exist? | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | if we are going with separate container per service | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | then the connection bits would be outside of Docker, right? | 21:39 |
| keyvan_ | seems so | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | no, they don't exist for different services. — at least not for solum services | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | there might be Dockerfiles for Heat etc. | 21:40 |
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| devkulkarni | but we haven't looked into them | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | so one approach could be we define separate Dockerfiles for each service | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | in this, we will need DFs for: solum-api, solum-builder-api, solum-worker, solum-conductor, solum-deployer, heat, keystone, glance, neutron | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | nova | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | rabbit and mysql could be in their own DF | 21:41 |
| keyvan_ | so in this case, we decode setup.py for each service, heat, keystone, etc first, ack? | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | ask | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | ack | 21:42 |
| keyvan_ | ok | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | the main connecting bits actually are | 21:42 |
| keyvan_ | that might be somthing to benefit these projects as well | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | to connect each solum service to rabbit and mysql | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | connect solum-deployer to heat | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | there is a project that has all the regular OpenStack services working in docker containers | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | connect heat to nova | 21:43 |
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| akshayc | we should try to sepearate devstack step and solum step | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | it's the greek word for "Glue" | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | starts with K | 21:43 |
| akshayc | so we isolate the problems…. | 21:44 |
| adrian_otto | Lolla | 21:44 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://github.com/stackforge/kolla Kolla | 21:44 |
| _ramin | I've to agree with akshayc | 21:44 |
| keyvan_ | nice K there :) | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | keyvan_: yes — that should be helpful to other projects as well | 21:44 |
| adrian_otto | so you might look at that in terms of getting the basic OpenStack environment in docker | 21:44 |
| adrian_otto | and then see how Solum could be fit into it | 21:45 |
| _ramin | we need to diffrentiate between an openstack install and a solum install somehow | 21:45 |
| adrian_otto | and for development purposes, nobody really wants to run a whole bunch of containers | 21:46 |
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| adrian_otto | they probably just one one for the equivalent of devstack, and one for solum | 21:46 |
| keyvan_ | ok, after seeing if Kolla fits, we continue to solum's setup.py? | 21:46 |
| adrian_otto | or one for all of it combined. | 21:46 |
| keyvan_ | and try to convert that to docker? | 21:47 |
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| devkulkarni | keyvan_: yeah, that could work as well.. so you are saying | 21:47 |
| keyvan_ | didn't get that las bit adrian, could you ellaborate? | 21:47 |
| devkulkarni | that you will use kolla for setting up heat, keystone, mysql, rabbit, etc. in one or more containers | 21:48 |
| devkulkarni | and then use a single container that has just the solum services which are installed using setup.py | 21:48 |
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| keyvan_ | alright, so the mentioned task has already been done by kolla for other services, ack? | 21:49 |
| adrian_otto | yes | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | keyvan_: I think we need to investigate that.. | 21:49 |
| keyvan_ | and setup.py is where silum connects to rabbit and mysql? | 21:49 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's open this up for any discussion now | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | keyvan_: yes | 21:50 |
| adrian_otto | any other bps or bugs for group discussion before I proceed to Open Discussion? | 21:50 |
| keyvan_ | devkulkarni: sure, i can do that | 21:50 |
| akshayc | dev env | 21:50 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 21:50 |
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| devkulkarni | akshayc: dev environment — is it not working for you? | 21:51 |
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| akshayc | no…. it aint | 21:51 |
| akshayc | should we work on fixing vagrant first? | 21:52 |
| akshayc | or start with docker? | 21:52 |
| devkulkarni | akshayc: yes, we should | 21:52 |
| devkulkarni | akshayc: you mean starting on the docker-based setup? those are different concerns, | 21:52 |
| adrian_otto | let's fix what's there now first | 21:53 |
| adrian_otto | and we can scope docker as a separate effort | 21:53 |
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| devkulkarni | sure.. but if folks want to start on docker-based setup, I think that should be okay | 21:53 |
| akshayc | ok… we need a way to ensure vagrant builds correctly | 21:53 |
| devkulkarni | akshayc_: let me share with you a bug in which I have some commit ids that I have been using for bunch of projects | 21:54 |
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| devkulkarni | which allow me to consistently spin up devstack | 21:54 |
| akshayc | ok | 21:54 |
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| akshayc | i am seeing different bugs…. yesterday was #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1405187 …. similar one in minstral | 21:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1405187 in tripleo "Can't find SQLAlchemy<=0.8.99,<=0.9.99,>=0.8.4,>=0.9.7" [Critical,Triaged] | 21:55 |
| akshayc | causing vagrant dev to fail | 21:55 |
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| devkulkarni | akshayc: in my experience, our vagrant setup always pulls in the latest code for different services | 21:56 |
| devkulkarni | that many times causes the setup to fail | 21:56 |
| devkulkarni | one option is to pin to specific commit ids | 21:56 |
| akshayc | ok.... | 21:56 |
| devkulkarni | for the dependent services. agreed that it may cause us integration issues later on.. but | 21:56 |
| devkulkarni | at least we are able to move forward with our daily development work | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | at least that is the compromise that I have landed on | 21:57 |
| akshayc | hmmm….. ok | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | *still trying to find the bug* | 21:57 |
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| devkulkarni | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1390246 | 21:57 |
| akshayc | can we get a stable working dev on last stable openstack release? | 21:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1390246 in solum "No valid host found when trying to run coreos template through Heat" [Undecided,New] | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | akshayc: that's a good point. | 21:58 |
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| akshayc | with pinned commits | 21:58 |
| akshayc | so it just works and i can roll back to that | 21:58 |
| devkulkarni | we could do that.. pin to juno for example.. | 21:58 |
| akshayc | yep…. that will be good | 21:59 |
| devkulkarni | akshayc: do you want to lead that effort for us? we all will pitch in but you can take charge of it probably? | 21:59 |
| akshayc | ok…. | 22:00 |
| devkulkarni | cool!! | 22:00 |
| devkulkarni | thanks akshayc. having a consistently working devstack is a must for development work | 22:00 |
| akshayc | i have been trying to setup one here #link https://github.com/akshaychhajed/vagrant-solum-dev/tree/solum_temp_changes | 22:01 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 22:01 |
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| devkulkarni | I know that ed cranford has some changes | 22:01 |
| devkulkarni | and I have some changes as well | 22:01 |
| akshayc | ok… | 22:02 |
| devkulkarni | all these can be combined and then we can test with juno commits | 22:02 |
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| akshayc | yep…. i hope to bring it to the point where the examples work | 22:03 |
| devkulkarni | that will be awesome!! | 22:03 |
| devkulkarni | feel free to ping me on #solum anytime | 22:03 |
| devkulkarni | if you want to discuss details about the vagrant setup | 22:04 |
| akshayc | ok. thanks! | 22:04 |
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| _ramin | so, if there are not anythin else to discuss, can I ask if anyone is working on completing the wiki? | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:12 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 23 22:12:19 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-12-23-21.12.html | 22:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-12-23-21.12.txt | 22:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-12-23-21.12.log.html | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | _ramin we can continue in #solum | 22:12 |
| _ramin | k | 22:12 |
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