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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 15 15:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | hello | 15:00 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | Hi | 15:00 |
| tbarron | yo | 15:00 |
| rushil | \o | 15:00 |
| markstur_ | hi | 15:00 |
| * bswartz looks at the channel topic | 15:00 | |
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| bswartz | hmmm | 15:00 |
| csaba | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | is freenode still suffering from yesterday's netsplit? | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | 4 sec fault start | 15:01 |
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| vponomaryov | try once again | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
| openstack | bswartz: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:01 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:01 |
| geguileor | Hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | openstack: get it together | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz; meeting won't be recorded | 15:02 |
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| vponomaryov | try stop previous one | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 15 15:02:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-15-15.00.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-15-15.00.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-15-15.00.log.html | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 15 15:02:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:02 |
| bswartz | oh well | 15:02 |
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| lpabon | hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:02 |
| geguileor | Nice! | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | ok, here is dev status: | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | 1) Share access levels 'ro' and 'rw' | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | looks like we have recording but not channel topic management | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/level-of-access-for-shares | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | - client #link https://review.openstack.org/144298 | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | - server #link https://review.openstack.org/144617 | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | status: finished, ready for review | 15:03 |
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| vponomaryov | 2) Manage/unmanage shares | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manage-shares | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/147495 | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | status: work in progress | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | 3) Functional tests for manilaclient | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-manilaclient/+spec/functional-tests | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | status: CLI tests from Manila project and its tempest plugin were ported to manilaclient and new were added. Right now it is read-only tests. | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | - docs update #link https://review.openstack.org/147161 | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | - tests themselves #link https://review.openstack.org/137393 | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | 4) Single_svm mode for Generic driver | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/single-svm-mode-for-generic-driver | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/142403 | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | status: ready for review | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | That's the main | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | I'll review 1 and 4 soon | 15:04 |
| bswartz | 2 is on the agenda for today | 15:04 |
| bswartz | any question before we move on? | 15:05 |
| bswartz | #topic Rename driver_mode decision | 15:05 |
| bswartz | okay last week blew by fast and I didn't answer the questions raised on the ML | 15:05 |
| bswartz | so I'll do so now | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | is chen here? | 15:06 |
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| chen | bswartz, yes | 15:06 |
| bswartz | ok | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | so there can be relationship between share servers and virtual machines | 15:07 |
| bswartz | however that's up to the driver | 15:07 |
| bswartz | many drivers do in fact create a VM per share server | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | the point of the share_server construct was to enable that model, but not to force it | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | regarding why the scheduler needs to know about share servers | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | typically a share_server is a relatively expensive object to create (inside the driver) | 15:08 |
| bswartz | it's usually preferrable for the scheduler to send requests to create a 2nd, 3rd, etc share to the same backend where the 1st share was created for any given tenant | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | at least, we want to allow the administrator to make that decision if he/she chooses | 15:09 |
| bswartz | so the scheduler needs to know what's already been created and where | 15:09 |
| chen | bswartz, what you mean " enable that model, " ? and "expensive object" | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | we wanted to create a persistence model in manila so that driver that did create VMs would have a place to track them | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | and VMs are typically an order of magnitude more resource intensive than individual shares | 15:11 |
| bswartz | make sense? | 15:12 |
| chen | bswartz, yes | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:12 |
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| chen | bswartz, we want VMs be tracked => in share server. But share server is not limited by VMs. It can contain other infomations too ==> up to driver ? | 15:13 |
| bswartz | yes | 15:13 |
| bswartz | and if someone comes up with a case where the info we store for the share server isn't enough, we can consider changing the model to add more info | 15:13 |
| bswartz | the share_server model works well for existing drivers | 15:13 |
| bswartz | if a new driver doesn't fit the model, we can talk about how to change it | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | the goal is to give driver authors flexibility | 15:14 |
| lpabon | cool | 15:14 |
| bswartz | but I get that too much flexibility creates confusion | 15:14 |
| bswartz | so I saw the proposal for the concept of a "dummy share server" | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | I'm not sure that would offer any advantage over letting manila know explicitly that driver will never create share servers | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | and if manila knows that fact, then instantiating a dummy object doesn't server any purpose that I can think of | 15:15 |
| markstur_ | so share server mode indicates there is startup cost? | 15:16 |
| bswartz | that depends on the backend | 15:16 |
| markstur_ | isn't it also about using the network setting passed in? | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | I mean, we know that the generic driver has to create a nova VM for each tenant/share network and creating nova VMs is not instantaneous | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | so after the first share is created, it's strongly preferable to create additional shares on the same VM if possible | 15:17 |
| markstur_ | scheduler will assume startup-cost and do share-server-affinity for additional share -- but that could be tuned later | 15:17 |
| bswartz | yeah basically | 15:18 |
| chen | bswartz, "preferable to create additional shares on the same VM if possible" ==> is there a chance admin would like create more share-server for higher throughput ? | 15:18 |
| bswartz | we will make the information available, and the administrators should be able to tune the scheduler how they choose | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | chen: the driver is ALWAYS able to create new storage_servers if it's in the multi_svm mode | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | chen: right now if you want separate share server, just use another one share-network | 15:19 |
| bswartz | that's a driver decision | 15:19 |
| bswartz | s/storage_server/share_server/ | 15:19 |
| ganso_ | if the admin creates several share networks related to the same private network (I do not know why he would do that), then a new share server would be created while it is not necessary | 15:20 |
| bswartz | the point of making the scheduler aware is to steer requests to the same backend | 15:20 |
| bswartz | a multi_svm backend manages a large pool of resources typically | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | ganso_: correct | 15:21 |
| bswartz | although share_networks are created by tenants not admins | 15:21 |
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| ganso_ | yes, sorry, replace that word by tenant in that case | 15:21 |
| ganso_ | still, isn't this a problem in the scenario we are discussing? | 15:22 |
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| ganso_ | it is resources being wasted | 15:22 |
| bswartz | ganso_: that's why we have a quota on share_networks | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | the admin may choose to bill based on share_networks or limit them to 1 or 2 per tenant | 15:23 |
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| ganso_ | bswartz: but then that quota may conflict with the scenario that he may have several private networks and would not be creating several share_networks per private networks. Shouldn't the option to do this be blocked or something? | 15:23 |
| bswartz | ganso_ that would be between the tenant and the admin to work out | 15:24 |
| bswartz | we're just providing the tools | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | If you can thinking of a way to exploit the current design with a DOS attack, please file a bug and we'll fix it | 15:25 |
| ganso_ | back when I was coding that part in my driver, I was torn between just throwing an error because it would simplify things, or support that scenario that has no use cases that I know of | 15:25 |
| bswartz | if you can think of a more user friendly way to prevent bad users from doing things, let's talk about it | 15:25 |
| ganso_ | yea, I need to think about it | 15:26 |
| bswartz | ganso_: ah I get it | 15:26 |
| ganso_ | I do not know the solution to this "problem" | 15:26 |
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| bswartz | yeah the intention is that if there are multiple share networks, that new share_servers will get created if it's a multi_svm backend | 15:27 |
| bswartz | which brings me back to the current topic | 15:27 |
| bswartz | the driver mode name | 15:27 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-driver-modes-discussion | 15:27 |
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| vponomaryov | or not name, but choose an approach to distinguish two driver modes. | 15:28 |
| bswartz | I see support for the boolean option | 15:28 |
| bswartz | and after writing that etherpad I myself was starting to lean towards the boolean option | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | has everyone seen the proposal from markstur? | 15:30 |
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| chen | bswartz, still has a question for markstur_ : If I create a share without "share-network", the I get a share, the Export location might be $gluterfs-ip:/manila-volume0/share-xxxx. | 15:30 |
| chen | Is there a chance my instances can't reach $gluterfs-ip at all ? | 15:30 |
| chen | Eg, $gluterfs-ip = 192.168.6.98, but the network mask can be 255.255.0.0 or 255.255.255.0. | 15:30 |
| chen | I'm a openstack user. I'm not the admin. I don't know what $gluterfs-ip stands for. | 15:30 |
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| vponomaryov | chen: network infrastructure is below Manila | 15:31 |
| bswartz | I believe we talked about the possibility for a driver to support "both" modes | 15:31 |
| bswartz | and we concluded that it's better to simply run 2 backends if that's the behavior you want | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | the reason for that is that the "driver mode" is reported back to the scheduler and can be associated with share_types, etc | 15:32 |
| chen | bswartz, nope. I jut wander when user would use the single_svm_mode => only when the user know the network => user == admin ? | 15:32 |
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| vponomaryov | chen: so, it is up to network infrastructure of cloud whether you instances are able to connect to VMs or not | 15:32 |
| bswartz | it's important to keep the 2 driver types separated | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | chen: single_svm mode is all around simpler, but less secure | 15:33 |
| bswartz | it's up to the administrator to decide what he wants to or is able to implement | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | and not to disparage single_svm mode -- it can still be made to be perfectly secure, it's just harder | 15:34 |
| chen | bswartz, but how user know what admin did ? especially when manila has multi-backend | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: need to wrap up this topic and start other | 15:34 |
| bswartz | so I'd like to call for a vote on these options if all the questsions | 15:34 |
| ganso_ | I'm with manage_share_servers=true, should we just vote and end it? | 15:35 |
| markstur_ | Is one option to vote to not change yet? | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | you mean to vote to discuss for another week? | 15:36 |
| bswartz | I suppose that's an option | 15:36 |
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| markstur_ | ugh, yes. Don't like the current names, but the new ones seem to need some thinking. ugh again | 15:36 |
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| bswartz | okay we'll see how this goes | 15:36 |
| bswartz | anyone if favor of keeping the current names? | 15:36 |
| bswartz | wait I have a better idea than doing this in IRC | 15:37 |
| bswartz | please put your votes in the etherpad | 15:37 |
| ganso_ | online poll? | 15:37 |
| ganso_ | oh | 15:37 |
| bswartz | by adding a +1 (name) to the option you like | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-driver-modes-discussion | 15:38 |
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| nileshb | ok | 15:38 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: are you picking the boolean name? | 15:38 |
| xyang1_ | bswartz: the boolean option has lots of names | 15:38 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: oh, I see, it is below | 15:38 |
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| bswartz | who put the -1 on the boolean option? | 15:39 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: is that your -1? | 15:39 |
| xyang1_ | I think that's valeriy -1 that name, but still supports boolean | 15:40 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is for one of names | 15:40 |
| vponomaryov | ther is another +1 for another name | 15:40 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:40 |
| bswartz | so there is unanimous support for a boolean option | 15:40 |
| bswartz | the question is which one | 15:40 |
| toabctl | so who flips the coin? :) | 15:40 |
| bswartz | did those that put +1 under "driver_handles_share_servers" prefer that option name? | 15:40 |
| bswartz | what about multi_share_servers, use_share_servers, or manage_share_servers ? | 15:41 |
| ganso_ | wait | 15:41 |
| ganso_ | 5x3 | 15:41 |
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| ganso_ | 6x3 | 15:41 |
| bswartz | I didn't have a preference | 15:41 |
| bswartz | but it sounds like y'all do | 15:42 |
| markstur_ | i'd go either way, but vp's -1 convinced me | 15:42 |
| bswartz | #agreed driver_mode=single/multi_svm will be replaced by driver_handles_share_servers=True/False | 15:42 |
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| bswartz | okay moving on | 15:43 |
| bswartz | #topic Use bashate for bash script checks | 15:43 |
| u_glide | manage_share_servers will conflict with importing share servers if we implement it | 15:43 |
| bswartz | toabctl: you're up | 15:43 |
| toabctl | solved now | 15:43 |
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| markstur_ | u_glide, good point | 15:44 |
| bswartz | nothing to discuss? | 15:44 |
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| toabctl | ah. it's basically about adding a check for shell scripts. | 15:44 |
| bswartz | I read the commit message and reviews | 15:44 |
| toabctl | vponomaryov asked me to add this topic to the agenda. | 15:44 |
| bswartz | is this really important? | 15:44 |
| bswartz | how many bash scripts do we even have? | 15:45 |
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| toabctl | from my side there's nothing to discuss. I would just accept the commit. vponomaryov ? | 15:45 |
| ganso_ | I have a question | 15:45 |
| ganso_ | about my bugs | 15:45 |
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| vponomaryov | toabctl: its not clear what possibilities does it have | 15:45 |
| ganso_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1410221 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1410246 | 15:45 |
| bswartz | ganso_: please save them for the end if we have time | 15:45 |
| vponomaryov | toabctl: what exactly can do | 15:45 |
| bswartz | ganso_: otherwise #openstack-manila | 15:45 |
| ganso_ | ok, sorry, I thought we were open | 15:45 |
| toabctl | vponomaryov: see README here: https://github.com/openstack-dev/bashate | 15:46 |
| bswartz | toabctl: which bash scripts were you thinking needed these checks? | 15:46 |
| lpabon | ganso_: i think we are still on the topic of bashate | 15:46 |
| toabctl | bswartz: all scripts we have in our codebase | 15:46 |
| ganso_ | lpabon: yes, looks like so, sorry | 15:46 |
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| lpabon | ganso_: no problem :-D | 15:46 |
| bswartz | maybe I'm dense, but I didn't think we had that many | 15:47 |
| bswartz | I'm looking now | 15:47 |
| bswartz | I guess we can save this discussion for the code review | 15:47 |
| bswartz | my gut feeling is that it's not a bad thing, but it also doesn't add much since bash is not a big part of manila | 15:48 |
| toabctl | bswartz: bashate is also used by devstack. so if we want to get our contrib/devstack stuff merged at some point we need to pass the tests anyway. | 15:48 |
| bswartz | so it might be a waste of resources to run it | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | anyways everyone can weigh in on the code review | 15:48 |
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| vponomaryov | toabctl: it can be fixed in commit with devstack | 15:48 |
| bswartz | let's move on | 15:48 |
| vponomaryov | denseif something appear | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | #topic Share manage/unmanage | 15:49 |
| toabctl | sure. as I don't have a stron opinion about it. reject or accept it. | 15:49 |
| toabctl | +1 for move on | 15:49 |
| bswartz | so a few of us have been spending time thinking about how to add a manage/unmanage feature to manila comparable to what cinder has | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | for the driver_handles_share_servers=False drivers, I think it's pretty straighforward | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | those driver will have to add methods to either allow or veto a share manage operation | 15:51 |
| bswartz | drivers will be free to veto a share manage operation for any reason | 15:51 |
| bswartz | share manage is an admin-only action and the admin does it with knowledge of where the existing data actually is, so if a manage operation fails, the admin can typically make a change and retry until it succeeds | 15:52 |
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| bswartz | unmanage is the reverse -- taking a share created by manila and removing it from the manila DB but leaving the data intact wherever it exists | 15:52 |
| bswartz | the problem is that this get far more complicated with driver_handles_share_servers=True drivers | 15:53 |
| bswartz | because there is a question of how manila can take over ownership of SVMs created outside manila, and what happens to any existing data on those SVMs after they're taken over | 15:54 |
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| bswartz | right now we're leaning toward a share-server-manage/unmanage feature as well | 15:54 |
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| markstur_ | could share-server-manage be split to a separate later thing? Is it needed for share-manage/ | 15:55 |
| csaba | bswartz: can you give a pointer to a description of the Cinder feature? | 15:56 |
| bswartz | one thing we're struggling with is whether manila completely owns the share-server after it's managed, or not | 15:56 |
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| u_glide | markstur_ Yes, we could | 15:56 |
| markstur_ | I suppose some shares/drivers would have to bring in a share-server with the share(?) | 15:56 |
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| bswartz | markstur_: it's needed to manage existing shares if you have a driver_handles_share_servers=True backend | 15:56 |
| bswartz | we could decide to not support that case at all and only allow managing of shares if driver_handles_share_servers=False | 15:57 |
| u_glide | +1 | 15:57 |
| u_glide | because it will simplify first implementation of this feature. And we can return to this question later, when more users give feedback about their needs. | 15:57 |
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| xyang1_ | bswartz: manila probably doesn't have control on whether the share-server is also used outside of manila or not | 15:57 |
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| bswartz | personally I would like to support both cases, but I agree that it's possible to start with something simple and add to it | 15:58 |
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| vponomaryov | xyang_: having share-server entity we assume owning by manila | 15:58 |
| bswartz | xyang1_: it can't prevent that, but we can decide if we want to support it or not | 15:58 |
| bswartz | if we don't support it, then all bets are off if you do something you're not supposed to | 15:58 |
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| xyang1_ | ok | 15:58 |
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| bswartz | if we do support it, then we have to think about what problems that could cause down the road | 15:59 |
| markstur_ | when share-manage provide [share-network] then a share server can be created or found | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | unfortunately we're out of time and we'll have to continue this topic later | 15:59 |
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| vponomaryov | markstur_: manage is "registering" something already existing | 15:59 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting\ | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 15 16:00:18 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
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| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-15-15.02.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-15-15.02.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-01-15-15.02.log.html | 16:00 |
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| kozhukalov | ok guys | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 15 16:01:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:01 |
| salmon_ | hi | 16:01 |
| evgeniyl__ | hi | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:01 |
| akasatkin | hi | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:01 |
| mihgen | hi guys | 16:01 |
| mkwiek | hi | 16:01 |
| romcheg | o/ | 16:01 |
| prmtl | hey | 16:01 |
| agordeev | hi | 16:01 |
| ikalnits_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| IvanKliuk | hi | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | hi everyone | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | today we have a lot of stuff to discuss | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | let's start | 16:01 |
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| seeg | hi | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | #topic fuel-client (new project) core rights to restructure (tzn) | 16:02 |
| docaedo | hey | 16:02 |
| tzn | Hi | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | agenda as usual | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:02 |
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| kozhukalov | tzn: hi | 16:02 |
| tzn | So we’ve separated fuel-client from main fuel-web repo | 16:02 |
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| tzn | As a quick decision we’ve assigned romcheg and dpyzhov core rights | 16:03 |
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| romcheg | For technical reasons mostly | 16:03 |
| tzn | As we now have separate group for this repo (as other OSt ptojects) we need to set initial list of cores there | 16:03 |
| mihgen | tzn: so my opinion is that we have to follow openstack guidelines unless we really to tweak those | 16:03 |
| kozhukalov | ok, i think all fuel-web core reviewers could help to review this stuff as well | 16:04 |
| tzn | Those guidelines say nothing about starting projec | 16:04 |
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| mihgen | tzn: ok why don't we discuss it publicly then? | 16:04 |
| tzn | After we set up initial list, we should stick to OSt rules | 16:04 |
| mihgen | I think it's common openstack problem too | 16:04 |
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| tzn | I propose adding all python experts from fuel-web to that group | 16:04 |
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| tzn | We are just doing this :) | 16:05 |
| mihgen | when like part of nova-compute is being splitted into separate repo, who becomes cores there? | 16:05 |
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| tzn | I have no idea | 16:05 |
| mihgen | tzn: it's not mailing list | 16:05 |
| mihgen | we need to discuss it in openstack-dev ML and see what other people think | 16:05 |
| kozhukalov | tzn: +1 to adding all fuel-web core reviewers | 16:05 |
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| tzn | I don;t really want to spend to much time here, it;s very clear for me, that we need current fuel-web guys to be cores | 16:05 |
| mihgen | tzn: to start - yes | 16:06 |
| tzn | After that - we use elections, like OSt | 16:06 |
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| mihgen | but I think we should be removing guys from cores too | 16:06 |
| tzn | Sure | 16:06 |
| mihgen | if they stop contributing | 16:06 |
| tzn | I’m all for that | 16:06 |
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| mihgen | contributing / reviewing | 16:06 |
| romcheg | So the only problem in adding all python guys we'll have to remove some of them later | 16:06 |
| tzn | Exactly | 16:06 |
| mihgen | romcheg: tzn Fine with me. | 16:06 |
| tzn | OSt only counts reviews, not contributions | 16:06 |
| tzn | Ok, do we need to state it clearly here who gets rights, or is it enough to send email to ost-dev? | 16:07 |
| kozhukalov | what is to be done by 6.1 about fuel-client? any plans? | 16:07 |
| tzn | I think I will just send email and we’ll do lazy consensus | 16:07 |
| tzn | you have full spec | 16:07 |
| mihgen | tzn: yep, pls send email | 16:07 |
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| romcheg | kozhukalov: There is a spec for refactoring planned to 6.1 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/re-thinking-fuel-client | 16:08 |
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| tzn | kozhukalov: full rewrite | 16:08 |
| kozhukalov | romcheg: thanks | 16:08 |
| tzn | ok, any other questions? | 16:08 |
| kozhukalov | no q from my side | 16:08 |
| romcheg | I have one | 16:08 |
| tzn | romcheg: thax, you were quicker | 16:08 |
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| romcheg | So to let some guys land required patches to ISO we allowed to merge them to the old folder in fuel-web project | 16:09 |
| romcheg | However after they've landed there I'd like to get that to python-fuelclient | 16:10 |
| ikalnitsky_ | romcheg afaik, they won't merged yet. any eta when we can build fuelclient from new repo? | 16:10 |
| romcheg | ikalnitsky_: Mon-Tue | 16:10 |
| tzn | we’d like it to be ready nearly next week, it’s a blocker now | 16:10 |
| mihgen | why can't we propose it into old and new repo then for now? | 16:11 |
| romcheg | tzn: Not a blocker but just a question of how to pull merged patches to new repo | 16:11 |
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| romcheg | mihgen: We could simply cherry-pick them and +A with the link to the original review | 16:12 |
| mihgen | patch owner should propose it into old and new place then | 16:12 |
| tzn | can romcheg take a look after we have ci/cd ready and move required stuff? | 16:12 |
| mihgen | romcheg: cherry-pick unlikely to work if you have separate directories | 16:12 |
| kozhukalov | why can't we just switch our ci to using forked client and if it works, then we'll propose changes to new repo only? | 16:13 |
| romcheg | mihgen: Right it's a manual cherry pick | 16:13 |
| tzn | you can move patchests from subdirectory | 16:13 |
| tzn | we should only take care to create separate patches for /fuelclient | 16:13 |
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| tzn | And not combined with other folders | 16:13 |
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| tzn | +1 | 16:13 |
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| mihgen | ok do we consider topic closed? | 16:14 |
| romcheg | +1 | 16:14 |
| ikalnitsky_ | +1 | 16:14 |
| tzn | yes, rest on ost-dev | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | ok, let's move this discussion to ML, because right now we have a lot of other stuff | 16:14 |
| tzn | +1 | 16:14 |
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| tzn | that’s right | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | #topic 200 nodes support (salmon_) | 16:15 |
| salmon_ | hi | 16:15 |
| salmon_ | Heere is the blueprint https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146900/ | 16:15 |
| salmon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146900/ | 16:15 |
| salmon_ | Please review. In summary, what will be done: for nailgun: more tests and improvements if needed. Deploy changes will go to background. For astute: provision in chunks, allowing to fail some nodes during provisioning. Speedup network verification. | 16:15 |
| salmon_ | Any questions? :) | 16:15 |
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| mihgen | I'd love to see a change in the UI workflow for net-verify, so when you click deploy without net-verify passed you should get a warning | 16:16 |
| mihgen | but that's for vkramskikh I think to do | 16:16 |
| salmon_ | yup, good idea | 16:16 |
| mihgen | salmon_: another thing is CI | 16:16 |
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| mihgen | there was a discussion for scale tests | 16:16 |
| vkramskikh | i'll sent an email into openstack-dev about this soon | 16:16 |
| mihgen | for nailgun | 16:16 |
| mihgen | vkramskikh: thx | 16:16 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: testa are in CI, not useful yet | 16:17 |
| salmon_ | *tests | 16:17 |
| mihgen | salmon_: why not yet? | 16:17 |
| mihgen | not finished? | 16:17 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: results are hard to read | 16:17 |
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| mihgen | oh ok.. any plans to impove? introduce even gating may be? | 16:17 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: yeah, we want to add some charts | 16:17 |
| mihgen | ok cool | 16:18 |
| salmon_ | to show how performance changes | 16:18 |
| salmon_ | not sure if in this relese, we don't have resource fot it :( | 16:18 |
| mihgen | then we should check it periodically | 16:18 |
| salmon_ | yup | 16:18 |
| mihgen | ok cool thanks | 16:18 |
| tzn | gating is also good idea | 16:18 |
| tzn | at least for dramatic changes | 16:19 |
| tzn | one more thing here | 16:19 |
| tzn | very important | 16:19 |
| mihgen | tzn: we should consider threasholds yes, but may be not necessarily for 6.1 | 16:19 |
| tzn | we assume that image based provisioning is not going to make into 6.1 | 16:19 |
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| mihgen | in ideal world I'd see whether email or even -1 in patch if it degrades | 16:19 |
| tzn | all stuff is planned with this assumption | 16:19 |
| mihgen | not at the point when it's already late (2 days before release.. ) | 16:20 |
| tzn | if we introduce it late, scope will change and we will not deliver | 16:20 |
| tzn | because it will completele change were optimisations should be made | 16:20 |
| tzn | so just to let you know | 16:20 |
| tzn | and I’m not against IBP of course | 16:20 |
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| mihgen | introduce what, sorry? | 16:21 |
| kozhukalov | tzn: actually we agreed that ibp will be one of the provisioning options apart from classic one | 16:21 |
| mihgen | what assumption? | 16:21 |
| tzn | „we assume that image based provisioning is not going to make into 6.1" | 16:21 |
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| tzn | at least as a default option | 16:21 |
| mihgen | ibp == image-based provisioning for those who doesn't know | 16:21 |
| mihgen | tzn: if we can't start working on it right away now | 16:22 |
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| mihgen | but if we can - why can't we certify it on 200 nodes? | 16:22 |
| kozhukalov | tzn: you are right ibp is not to be a default option for 6.1, just an option | 16:22 |
| tzn | salmon_: | 16:23 |
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| tzn | I think there is no time | 16:23 |
| tzn | it will be double work | 16:23 |
| tzn | we only really have 1 person working on it | 16:23 |
| mihgen | just on option is also fine with me. Then we would just say in release notes that we didn't certify it for scale | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | tzn: and another person from fuel agent side | 16:23 |
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| salmon_ | mihgen: testing on 200 nodes takes a lot of time, if it will be introduced at the end of release cycle we will not be able to test it and optimize if something is slow | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | agordeev: is to work on ibp during 6.1 | 16:24 |
| barthalion | hi, sorry for being late | 16:24 |
| mihgen | salmon_: it can be introduced now, as far as I know from kozhukalov | 16:24 |
| mihgen | so guys I think you'd need to sync between 200 nodes team & ibp team | 16:24 |
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| kozhukalov | mihgen: you are right, we will | 16:25 |
| salmon_ | yup | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | let's move on | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | any other q here? | 16:25 |
| mihgen | tzn: did you see holser anywhere? I'd like to hear ubuntu14.04 status.. | 16:25 |
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| mihgen | kozhukalov: not for this topic | 16:25 |
| tzn | he had maintenance until 3 in the morning | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | #topic fuel-stats. current state, future feature plans (akislitsky) | 16:26 |
| mihgen | thx salmon_ for information about scale | 16:26 |
| tzn | besides, it’s not in the agenda, so sorry | 16:26 |
| salmon_ | np | 16:26 |
| akislitsky | We have discussed structure of statistics CSV report with Ronen. Now we are moving implementation of the CSV exporter prototype into http handler for fetching CSV report from statistics web UI. It will be done this week. Also we have got part of requirements for OpenStack workload statistics from Ronen. At the beginning of next week we are going to get the rest requirements for OpenStack workload statistics from Nathan, | 16:26 |
| akislitsky | when he will come to Moscow office. Workload statistics requires different storing strategy. We'll discuss architecture design and create spec on the workload statistics. We are planning to start implementation next week as soon as we will have requirements and draft of architecture design. Development will be split on short cycles. In the end of each cycle we will show results to the our feature consumer from the PM t | 16:26 |
| akislitsky | eam. | 16:26 |
| mihgen | akislitsky: thx for update | 16:27 |
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| dpyzhov | Looks like we have new requirements | 16:27 |
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| mihgen | akislitsky: I have a question about community version | 16:27 |
| dpyzhov | And we can have more work for extra developer | 16:27 |
| mihgen | that's more for devops perhaps | 16:27 |
| mihgen | teran_: ^^^ | 16:27 |
| dpyzhov | will know better after meeting with Nathan | 16:27 |
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| mihgen | so if it's feairly simple to deploy, I'd love to see it finally implemented | 16:28 |
| dpyzhov | I’m talking about openstack workloads statistics | 16:28 |
| mihgen | stats.fuel-infra.org or what's that gonna be | 16:28 |
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| mihgen | dpyzhov: yeah let's wait for him | 16:28 |
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| teran_ | mihgen: it's currently in progress, anyway we'll get all the data while it's not worken when it will get up | 16:29 |
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| nurla | what about improvements that we've planned at last year to perfomance? | 16:30 |
| mihgen | teran_: any ETA? | 16:30 |
| mihgen | nurla: performance of what? | 16:30 |
| teran_ | mihgen: 1-2 weeks | 16:30 |
| mihgen | teran_: cool, thx | 16:30 |
| nurla | collector of statistic | 16:30 |
| mihgen | do we see any issues with it? | 16:30 |
| mihgen | or predict that it's not gonna handle scale | 16:31 |
| teran_ | mihgen: it's pretty slow, but currently we need to recheck test results | 16:31 |
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| mihgen | I just don't wonna us to make it super perfect if it's good enough for our purposes | 16:31 |
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| nurla | yep, Tema provided results to Igor | 16:31 |
| teran_ | nurla: we will discuss how it's going with Artem | 16:31 |
| nurla | okay, thank you | 16:31 |
| kozhukalov | if there are no other q, let's move on then | 16:32 |
| kozhukalov | thanks akislitsky | 16:32 |
| mihgen | teran_: nurla guys let's get results | 16:32 |
| mihgen | by next week | 16:32 |
| mihgen | I hear about this for 2-3 months :( | 16:32 |
| teran_ | mihgen: ll | 16:32 |
| teran_ | mihgen: лл | 16:33 |
| teran_ | mihgen: kk | 16:33 |
| mihgen | it sounds to me that we are infinitely working on int | 16:33 |
| teran_ | mihgen: the same stuff :( | 16:33 |
| mihgen | thx, let's move on | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | #topic docker upgrade to 1.4.1 (ikalnitsky) | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky_ | Ok, guys, I have managed to update docker (0.10 -> 1.4.1) on master node. | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky_ | There are only two patches that we need: | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121559/ is the fix to manifests | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146885/ is the fix to fuel_upgrade | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky_ | I built an ISO with new docker/patches and it successfully passed our BVT tests. | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky_ | I also prepared an upgrade tarball with new docker/patches and the upgrade was done successfully too. | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky_ | I think, we can ask QA to verify both ISO and an upgrade tarball. | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky_ | There's one thing I want to notice - we can't build Docker package automatically, we should do it manually (and we did). The reason is that our OBS is flying over CentOS 6.4 when for building docker we require at least 6.5. | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky_ | That's all. | 16:33 |
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| mihgen | ikalnitsky_: thx | 16:34 |
| barthalion | can't we just upgrade obs to 6.5? | 16:34 |
| mihgen | sounds like great progress | 16:34 |
| mihgen | mattymo: did you have a chance to review docker work? | 16:35 |
| ikalnitsky_ | barthalion i think you should ask rvyalov or dburmistrov | 16:35 |
| mihgen | barthalion: they want to get rid of it at all :) | 16:35 |
| ikalnitsky_ | barthalion afaik, upgrading obs to 6.5 will requires to rebuild all packages | 16:35 |
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| barthalion | obs must be really fishy piece of software | 16:35 |
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| mattymo | mihgen, I wrote a good portion of it myself, so yes. We've been in close contact | 16:35 |
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| mihgen | mattymo: ok great | 16:36 |
| mihgen | rvyalov: docker thing should be in roadmap for osci to fix later | 16:36 |
| mattymo | We do need to note that we can't release 6.1 with new docker unless we get a clean build on OSCI | 16:36 |
| mihgen | we should not just forget it | 16:36 |
| mattymo | but we can use the unclean package for now | 16:36 |
| rvyalov | barthalion: yes, now we discuss this problem | 16:36 |
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| mihgen | thx guys let's move on | 16:37 |
| kozhukalov | #topic downloadable ubuntu release (ikalnitsky) | 16:37 |
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| ikalnitsky_ | me again :) | 16:37 |
| kozhukalov | yea | 16:37 |
| kozhukalov | yep | 16:38 |
| ikalnitsky_ | Actually, there's nothing to be said. I've registered a blueprint | 16:38 |
| ikalnitsky_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/downloadable-ubuntu-release | 16:38 |
| ikalnitsky_ | and now I'm on my way to writing a spec. I hope I'll publiosh it tomorrow. | 16:38 |
| ikalnitsky_ | For those who have no clue: by some reason, we can't redistribute Ubuntu package and call it "Ubuntu". So we have decided to transform it into "optional" release, which could be easily added by cloud operator. The workflow will be: download official ubuntu iso and upload it to fuel. | 16:38 |
| ikalnitsky_ | Besides, I've done some investigation with ubuntu iso internals and it looks like there's no challenge to extract repos and installer. | 16:38 |
| ikalnitsky_ | I thought to test these "extracted" repos on the env, but in order to get a clear test I was needed in separate repos. Unfortunately, the man who are doing this will be available next week. | 16:38 |
| ikalnitsky_ | questions? | 16:39 |
| mihgen | ok good | 16:39 |
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| mihgen | we need design review | 16:39 |
| mihgen | did you start it? | 16:39 |
| kozhukalov | we also need to separate ubuntu repo from openstack repo on a master node to make this feature working | 16:40 |
| mihgen | ikalnitsky_: I mean design spec? | 16:40 |
| ikalnitsky_ | yeah, i started, but it doesn't ready | 16:40 |
| ikalnitsky_ | i'll try to publish it on review tomorrow | 16:40 |
| mihgen | pls attach it to blueprint | 16:40 |
| mihgen | so we can easily find it and review | 16:41 |
| kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:41 |
| ikalnitsky_ | yep, sure | 16:41 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov: yeah | 16:41 |
| mihgen | thx ikalnitsky_ | 16:41 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic image based provisioning (agordeev) | 16:41 |
| agordeev | hi | 16:42 |
| agordeev | A lot of bug are still here. Few of their fixes deserve to be backported to 6.0 | 16:42 |
| agordeev | Most noticable are: | 16:42 |
| agordeev | New high priority bug appeared and was fixed lightning fast -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1410471 | 16:42 |
| agordeev | Medium, but hard to reproduce bug was finally fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1394599 | 16:42 |
| agordeev | Still a 5 or 6 of bug fixes are ready for review (progress on all of them was blocked due to 6.0 releasing ) - most were snippets related. Especially mellanox | 16:42 |
| agordeev | and there is one meduim bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1398643 which's still unclear how is better to fix it. | 16:42 |
| agordeev | Otherwise, no other bug news. | 16:42 |
| agordeev | According to the latest news and announcements, for the 6.1 I'll be dedicated for bringing true production readyness to IBP by any means. | 16:42 |
| agordeev | That's all. | 16:42 |
| kozhukalov | agordeev: yes we all hope to get really reliable feature by 6.1 | 16:43 |
| mihgen | yes please :) | 16:43 |
| kozhukalov | thanx agordeev | 16:44 |
| kozhukalov | if there are no other q let's move on | 16:44 |
| kozhukalov | #topic fuel system tests refactoring (IvanKliuk) | 16:44 |
| IvanKliuk | Hi! | 16:44 |
| IvanKliuk | The first aim of Fuel system tests refactoring is to extract certain methods are related to the test environment creation and logically have to be a part of fuel-devops project. These methods live in fuel-main.fuelweb_test.EnvironmentModel and being moved into fuel-devops.devops.models.Environment class. Right now the most of methods have been moved into fuel-devops repo and I'm working on decoupling them from other parts of fuel | 16:44 |
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| IvanKliuk | That's all for now. | 16:45 |
| ikalnitsky_ | IvanKliuk: nice. the patches are merged or only on review? | 16:45 |
| kozhukalov | do you have a spec for this feature? | 16:46 |
| mihgen | IvanKliuk: very good, we really need this help for QA team | 16:46 |
| IvanKliuk | As I said before, I'll push all the intermediate changes to github for convenience. | 16:46 |
| nurla | ikalnitsky_ kozhukalov it is my responsibility to prepare specs for it :) | 16:46 |
| IvanKliuk | kozhukalov: no, I don't | 16:46 |
| kozhukalov | nurla: great | 16:47 |
| kozhukalov | thanks | 16:47 |
| mihgen | thx, let's move on | 16:47 |
| nurla | I will prepare at next week | 16:47 |
| kozhukalov | #topic advanced-networking (akasatkin) | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | hi | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115340/ | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | Just a few tasks within adv-networking feature can be delivered to FF. | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | These two are mandatory as they exert influence on other projects/features: | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | 1. Provide an ability to use mixture of different L23 providers within one | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | environment. | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | 2. Use network schema for Nova-Network as it is done for Neutron now. | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | These changes affect nailgun and library. | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | Most of other tasks will be postponed due to lack of time. | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | Best effort solution may include: | 16:47 |
| akasatkin | 1. Separate public and floating for Neutron. | 16:48 |
| akasatkin | 2. Networking API refactoring (introduce DSL in there). | 16:48 |
| akasatkin | 3. It will be not mandatory to map all networks to interfaces on every node. | 16:48 |
| akasatkin | 4. Network role is separated from network. | 16:48 |
| akasatkin | 5. Networks can be arbitrary created/deleted by user. | 16:48 |
| akasatkin | Complete list of tasks is in spec. | 16:48 |
| akasatkin | Seems that some of the tasks will be solved in API only (no GUI support) | 16:48 |
| akasatkin | Most of the work is to be done in nailgun. | 16:48 |
| akasatkin | And I'm the only nailgun developer on the feature. | 16:48 |
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| akasatkin | One of the problems is support of old API (new API is introduced). | 16:48 |
| akasatkin | It will take time as DB structure and relations are to be changed significantly. | 16:48 |
| akasatkin | So, most of changes may be postponed. | 16:48 |
| mihgen | akasatkin: yeah we need you for other things, may be patching | 16:49 |
| mihgen | looks like for now we will have to postpond most of the work related to advanced networking | 16:49 |
| mihgen | and concentrate on the essential blueprints for 6.1 | 16:50 |
| akasatkin | if no other python devs will be involved - yes | 16:50 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, looks like no q here | 16:50 |
| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:50 |
| mihgen | thx akasatkin . let's move on | 16:50 |
| kozhukalov | #topic community project update (teran) | 16:51 |
| teran_ | We’re going to run landing page for fuel community project by next week. | 16:51 |
| teran_ | I should become the central endpoint to navigate within our stuff like CI, bugtracker, docs and so on. | 16:51 |
| teran_ | There also will be available the link for community releases & latest nightly builds, so don’t miss it ;) | 16:51 |
| teran_ | That’s all. | 16:51 |
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| mihgen | I -> It, I hope ) | 16:51 |
| mihgen | thx teran_ , guys - it's gonna be really great page | 16:52 |
| teran_ | mihgen: yeah :) | 16:52 |
| tzn | can’t wait to see it | 16:52 |
| mihgen | teran_: I'm looking forward for it, dreaming about it for a long time already | 16:52 |
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| nurla | =) | 16:52 |
| mihgen | teran_: what about community ISO builds? | 16:52 |
| mihgen | https://fuel-jenkins.mirantis.com/ | 16:53 |
| mihgen | I don't see 6.1 there :( | 16:53 |
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| teran_ | mihgen: it will appear with this release, but we can turn it on quicker manualy for now | 16:53 |
| mihgen | any plans to fix it? we need users in the community being able to easily consume daily builds | 16:54 |
| mihgen | teran_: we need it badly | 16:54 |
| mihgen | we can't wait 2-3 more weeks before you implement something excellent | 16:54 |
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| teran_ | mihgen: it's already fixed, so fix will appear there with community landing page | 16:54 |
| mihgen | so if it's possible to spend an hour or two - please do it | 16:54 |
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| teran_ | mihgen: for now I'll fix it manually there today | 16:54 |
| kozhukalov | 5 mins and one more topic | 16:55 |
| mihgen | great thx | 16:55 |
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| mihgen | we will monitoring for this probably | 16:55 |
| kozhukalov | #topic New features for plugins (adanin) | 16:55 |
| mihgen | so next time we fix it quickly | 16:55 |
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| adanin | Hi | 16:55 |
| adanin | 1. The Empty Role will be introduced (the code is on review). Fuel just deploy CentOS/Ubuntu on this node and run pre- and post-deploy plugins' hooks. No extra network setup or Puppet run occurs on such node. | 16:55 |
| adanin | #link http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2015-01/msg00819.html | 16:55 |
| adanin | 2. We are going to add a new task for Fuel plugins. A plugin will be able to reboot node and wait until it become available again. It allows plugins to update a kernel, for example. There is no link to this task still. | 16:55 |
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| adanin | that’s all. | 16:55 |
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| mkwiek | Wasn't it supposed to be called generic role? | 16:56 |
| adanin | Maybe. | 16:56 |
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| mihgen | I | 16:56 |
| adanin | We can discuss it in the mail thread I mentioned above. | 16:56 |
| mihgen | I'm not sure about generic role… | 16:56 |
| evgeniyl__ | I'm not sure about generic role too | 16:57 |
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| mihgen | this is actually hack for now | 16:57 |
| mkwiek | ok, sure, it's mentioned in the email thread anyway | 16:57 |
| mihgen | before we get new roles definition in plugins | 16:57 |
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| mihgen | so the least confusing name is preferrable for now | 16:57 |
| mihgen | yeah let's come up with ideas in ML | 16:58 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, guys, looks like we are done | 16:58 |
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| mihgen | thanks guys | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | we don't have time anymore | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | thanx everyone | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | great meeting | 16:58 |
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| mihgen | we have many work ahead of us, let's do it! | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | closing | 16:58 |
| nurla | bye-bye) | 16:59 |
| evkonst | bye | 16:59 |
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| tzn | thx | 16:59 |
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| kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 15 16:59:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-01-15-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-01-15-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-01-15-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
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| barthalion | bye | 16:59 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 15 17:00:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:00 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:00 |
| elmiko | o/ | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | \o | 17:00 |
| sarnold007 | hola | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | Good morning afternoon etc! | 17:00 |
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| sicarie | o/ | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | Rollcall I guess, though we’ll wait a minute or two to get started | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | sarnold007: don't you mean HOLA ? | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | :) | 17:01 |
| sarnold007 | o/ | 17:01 |
| sarnold007 | well, i could say hola, como esta... | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | I was referencing the infamous #openstack-security spambot :) | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | ok looks like we’ve got the same old faces! | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder sends his apologies | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | ok so agenda wise, I’ve got a couple of things I’d like to cover, Bandit, Anchor and the Mid-Cycle | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Anything else? | 17:04 |
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| bdpayne | have you run startmeeting? | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | Yup | 17:04 |
| bdpayne | looks like we are still in a solum meeting? | 17:04 |
| bdpayne | huh, ok | 17:04 |
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| bknudson | try endmeeting | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | Why do you think we’re still in the solum meeting ? | 17:05 |
| tkelsey | the room title | 17:05 |
| elmiko | yea | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | I saw them #endmeeting, saw the output from bot too | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah it didn’t change the title for some reason | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | lets try again | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:05 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 15 17:05:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-15-17.00.html | 17:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-15-17.00.txt | 17:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-15-17.00.log.html | 17:05 |
| bknudson | weird | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | ^ It was logging to the right place at least | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | shortest meeting eva | 17:05 |
| sweston | o/ | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 15 17:06:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:06 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:06 |
| elmiko | weird... | 17:06 |
| tkelsey | hummm guess its bust, technology eh? :P | 17:06 |
| bdpayne | oh well, carry on :-) | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | well that was an exciting diversion! | 17:06 |
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| bknudson | hackers. | 17:06 |
| tkelsey | :P | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | haxors everywhere! | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | Right, back on topic. Which was, to set the agenda :) | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Anchor, Bandit, Mid-Cycle - anything else? | 17:07 |
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| hyakuhei | ok | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | tkelsey: what’s the latest on Anchor? | 17:07 |
| bdpayne | sounds good to me | 17:07 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: test, test and more tests | 17:07 |
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| tkelsey | well, slowly adding coverage | 17:08 |
| tkelsey | I also updated the wiki pages | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | Superb. Anyone want to get involved with Anchor? This is a great time. | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | Still need to workout where/when to write the Barbican plugin | 17:08 |
| tkelsey | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Anchor | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | and bdpayne you wanted to talk about some stuff ? | 17:08 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: yeah good point | 17:09 |
| bdpayne | I did? | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeh, I thought you mentioned something last week, ah well | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | So yes in general, we are feature freezing Anchor while we add a number of tests. | 17:09 |
| bdpayne | well, I have some thoughts that I'll keep to myself for now until I can dig into the code base some more | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | Righto, feel free to air them early, we won’t get offended :) | 17:10 |
| tkelsey | bdpayne: awesome :) input very welcome when your ready | 17:10 |
| * redrobot is fashionably late | 17:10 | |
| bdpayne | cool | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | welcome redrobot ! | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | We were just talking about adding an Anchor plugin into Babrican :) | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | ok, so re: Anchor - get involved, write some tests :) | 17:11 |
| tkelsey | +1 :) | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Bandit | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | Bandit might be mostly a no-op this week | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | Last week we spoke about testing out Bandit in various places | 17:12 |
| elmiko | i have a bandit user report | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | Excellent! | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | ooh | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | do tell | 17:12 |
| tkelsey | :D | 17:12 |
| elmiko | i ran it against the sahara code base, it was smooth sailing | 17:12 |
| elmiko | i followed the instructions and it worked like magic =) | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | find anything interesting? | 17:12 |
| tkelsey | elmiko: thats awesome news, find anything interesting ? | 17:12 |
| elmiko | yea, i think so | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | awesome! | 17:13 |
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| redrobot | I've been meaning to run it against the Barbican code base... | 17:13 |
| elmiko | #link https://gist.github.com/elmiko/94f063583912a5d8c3cb | 17:13 |
| elmiko | that's our output | 17:13 |
| tkelsey | redrobot: +1 | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | I did run it once a while back, found a few things iirc. | 17:13 |
| elmiko | it mainly complains about our usage of /tmp, but that's occuring on our cluster nodes so maybe something to look at | 17:13 |
| bknudson | that is scary. | 17:13 |
| bknudson | sudo su - -c "mkdir /tmp/oozielib !!?? | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | eeeeeew | 17:14 |
| * elmiko feels like he just exposed sahara's bare ass | 17:14 | |
| tmcpeak | sudo /tmp/sahara-hadoop-init.sh :) | 17:15 |
| elmiko | yea, we need some help =) | 17:15 |
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| sicarie | tmcpeak to be fair they created the directory 500 immediately before :) | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | That’s a good thing elmiko, what we are here for :) | 17:15 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | ahh gotcha | 17:15 |
| sicarie | er, not directory | 17:16 |
| * sicarie stops typing while caffeine goes through his system | 17:16 | |
| elmiko | anyways, aside from our issues, kudos to the bandit team. the process was painless and the docs were clear. | 17:16 |
| bknudson | bandit is sure doing it's job if it's able to catch these issues. | 17:17 |
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| tmcpeak | elmiko: thanks for using it | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | so next step is to get it in the gate | 17:17 |
| elmiko | i would like to learn how best to interpret it's output as my next task with bandit | 17:17 |
| tkelsey | elmiko: awesome, thanks for the feedback | 17:17 |
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| chair6 | yeah, nice to see real world usage :) | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:17 |
| tkelsey | elmiko: tmcpeak or myself can help if you have any questions | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:18 |
| elmiko | tkelsey: awesome, i'll find you guys in openstack-security | 17:18 |
| bknudson | I ran it on keystone quickly a month ago to see if it worked, and it worked fine... I think I asked for a feature to skip files (e.g., test directory) | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | bdpayne: btw, did you know if Lucas is planning on merging his improvements? | 17:18 |
| bdpayne | yeah he is | 17:18 |
| bdpayne | I'll ping him to do so | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson: oh right, I added that item to our wiki | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: You mentioned before it might fit in the Keystone gate? | 17:18 |
| bknudson | I would definitely like to see this in keystone gate. | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | What’s the process of doing a trial? | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | there's a little work we need to do to get it in requirements | 17:19 |
| bknudson | and if you need project to start with I think keystone is a good target. | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | after that it should be easy to set up a non-blocking gate job for it | 17:19 |
| bknudson | maybe middleware. | 17:19 |
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| bknudson | I think this would be a good topic for the cross-project meeting. | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | We’ll use it in Anchor soon but it looks like Keystone would be the first ‘proper’ project to test it with | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | what's the cross-project meeting? | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | is that a summit thing? | 17:21 |
| bknudson | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting | 17:21 |
| bknudson | "Any cross-team issue is on-topic for this meeting." | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | ahh cool, I was not aware this was a thing :) | 17:21 |
| bdpayne | neither was I... interesting | 17:22 |
| bknudson | it would be good to take care of any objections that might be raised... I don't anticipate any other than there might be a request for a cross-project spec. | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson: yeah, that looks like a good fit for that discussion | 17:22 |
| bknudson | so you might want to get started on a spec. | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | ok so todo: 1) requirements 2) spec | 17:23 |
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| hyakuhei | Anyone want to volunteer to take that as an action? | 17:24 |
| bknudson | Here's an example cross-project spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145544/ | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | another action would be to attend the cross-project meeting | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | which is at 21:00 UTC | 17:24 |
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| tmcpeak | let's attend when we have what we need in place | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | I'm a little bandwidth challenged right now, but I can at least work #1 | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | cool | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | #action tmcpeak to take a look at the requirements regarding Bandit and Keystone Gate Tests | 17:25 |
| sarnold007 | I might be able to assist with the spec | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | awesome! | 17:26 |
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| hyakuhei | Anything else on Bandit? | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | nope | 17:26 |
| sarnold007 | is there a deadline for it? other than ASAP? | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | cool | 17:26 |
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| tmcpeak | next week would be good | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | as you're able | 17:27 |
| sarnold007 | Ok, I'll work on it this weekend | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | you don't have to :) | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | the week after is fine | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | not trying to crack the whip | 17:27 |
| sarnold007 | it gives me an excuse to avoid my teenager :) | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | haha ok, awesome | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, lets move along, thanks Bandit peoples! | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Mid-Cycle | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-kilo-meetup | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Agenda is looking pretty thin at the moment, I’d like to see more on there, especially if you’re a confirmed attendee | 17:29 |
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| hyakuhei | At the very least put your name down against the things that you think are most important | 17:29 |
| * bdpayne will add at least one agenda item | 17:29 | |
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| hyakuhei | Thanks :) | 17:30 |
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| tmcpeak | looks like a HP/Nebula party? | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | I’m finalizing travel plans over the next 24 hours | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | Malini from Intel is going to try to come | 17:31 |
| * bdpayne added one item | 17:31 | |
| bdpayne | Can we put an address on there for Geekdom? | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | I’ll try to add a few over the next few days. | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | yep, I'll get it | 17:32 |
| bknudson | I need to convince my employer to get me to the security meetups. | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | thanks tmcpeak | 17:32 |
| bdpayne | also, it says "proposed dates" up top, but those _are_ the dates, right? | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | They have a decent bike lockup there fyi, I’ll be renting a roadie for a day or two while I’m there :) | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | So I don’t have a whole bunch more to add atm. I noticed a few prospective board members mentioning security | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | can we get some pandering? :) | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | Jesse Proudman used the recent glance vulnerability as an example of things not working great | 17:34 |
| bdpayne | Re bike lockup, that's nice as I'll probably be taking the train/bike to the spot each day | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | Cool | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | They can lend you a lock too bdpayne | 17:35 |
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| bdpayne | what time are we starting on the first day? | 17:36 |
| bdpayne | and what time are we ending on the last day? | 17:36 |
| bdpayne | (to help people with travel plans) | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | So, we’ve got the place 9-5 Tuesday-Friday | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | with a 4pm finish on Thursday | 17:36 |
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| hyakuhei | Sure | 17:36 |
| bdpayne | should we just plan to start 9a on Tuesday than? | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | s/than/then/ | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | Yup | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | or is that too early? | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | 9's good | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | Lets start strong ;) | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | for me, strong would be later in the morning ;-) | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | but, I can figure out the 9a thing | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | I hear it's possible | 17:38 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | You can be late | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | yeah bdpayne: that's a sub-optimal Caltrain ride you have to do | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | but you must bring cake. | 17:38 |
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| bdpayne | yeah, it will be a bit painful | 17:38 |
| bdpayne | but I'd rather not be away from my family all week | 17:38 |
| bdpayne | so, eh | 17:38 |
| bdpayne | ;-) | 17:38 |
| bdpayne | I can do the bullet train | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | Whatever works bdpayne, it’s always a slow start on the first day. | 17:39 |
| bdpayne | no worries | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | I’m hoping we can have a social event one day. | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | I know some good spots around there | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | Cool | 17:41 |
| bdpayne | ah good, b/c I don't really know that area too well | 17:41 |
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| jroll | I just found out about the OSSG meetup, I'd like to start getting involved, mind if I drop in on it? :) | 17:41 |
| bdpayne | sure | 17:41 |
| * jroll works upstairs from geekdom | 17:41 | |
| bdpayne | a great way to get started | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | Sure jroll | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-kilo-meetup | 17:41 |
| jroll | awesome, thanks | 17:41 |
| jroll | I'll add my name | 17:41 |
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| hyakuhei | Sweet! | 17:42 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok, if there’s nothing to add lets close it out :) | 17:42 |
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| hyakuhei | Thanks all! | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:43 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 15 17:43:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-15-17.06.html | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-15-17.06.txt | 17:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-01-15-17.06.log.html | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | see ya | 17:43 |
| bknudson | keystone meetup is next week | 17:43 |
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| tmcpeak | bknudson: you going? | 17:43 |
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| bknudson | tmcpeak: I will be there. | 17:43 |
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| tmcpeak | cool, maybe kick around Bandit with the others there? | 17:44 |
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| dlenrow | I missed this in agenda bashing, but we want to remind folks that if we get NIC project approved next week, we will ask for exception to join helium | 18:16 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 15 19:00:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic RollCall | 19:00 |
| mpanetta | o/ | 19:00 |
| catherineR | o/ | 19:01 |
| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:02 |
| miqui_ | hello | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Last Week Items | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-08-19.00.html | 19:03 |
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| obulpathi | o/ | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok first one was for malini - malini to add doc to cdn vendor wiki page on how to add a mimic plugin for their api | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | she isnt here today, but i dont think she has done this yet | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | so will roll it over | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | #action: malini to add doc to cdn vendor wiki page on how to add a mimic plugin for their api | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | next one was unassigned but - investigate how to do worker processes with non blocking io | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | a few of us looked at taskflow | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | the discussion (from the meeting just finished) was to compare taskflow with celery | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | i will roll this task forward | 19:05 |
| mpanetta | We need to make sure whatever we choose supports ssl, or some sort of encryption of the channel... | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | #action ALL - investigate worker management | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | the next one was to research oslo.messaging | 19:05 |
| tonytan4ever | I did some research on this one using oslo.messaging with rabbit-mq | 19:05 |
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| tonytan4ever | Code looks pretty good. | 19:06 |
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| amitgandhinz | i did look into that. we know we are going to use rabbitmq. whether we choose to go with taskflow or celery, that may change the need to explicitly use oslo.messaging directly | 19:06 |
| wbrothers | I can take the action to add a cdn provider to the wiki | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | thanks wbrothers | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | #action: wbrothers to add doc to cdn vendor wiki page on how to add a mimic plugin for their api | 19:07 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok moving to the next topic... | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Bugs and Blueprints | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/kilo-2 | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | ok bugs first.... | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | there are 3 PATCH bugs outstanding | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: do you want to wrap these up? | 19:08 |
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| obulpathi | yes, | 19:08 |
| obulpathi | 2 of them are we are not returning proper error messages | 19:09 |
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| obulpathi | one from provider and the other for JSON schema validation | 19:09 |
| obulpathi | I will take them | 19:09 |
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| amitgandhinz | thansk | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409782 | 19:09 |
| tonytan4ever | In review for this one | 19:10 |
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| tonytan4ever | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147326/ | 19:10 |
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| amitgandhinz | hmm odd it didnt update the bug automatically | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | ok lets get that reviewed | 19:10 |
| tonytan4ever | Could use some reviews, cpowell, obulpathi, amitgandhinz | 19:10 |
| tonytan4ever | since this one has something to do with OPs | 19:10 |
| obulpathi | will review | 19:10 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok, on to the blueprints | 19:11 |
| tonytan4ever | I just updated its status to In Progress. | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | message queue driver | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | so we just had a great discussion on this | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | #agreed to use rabbitmq as the backend (although this is likely to be pluggable) | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | #agreed to investigate taskflow vs celery differences | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | so we will chat with the TF folks on their IRC channel to learn the diffs | 19:13 |
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| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: do you want to own that action? | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | and then report back on the findings | 19:13 |
| tonytan4ever | Sure | 19:13 |
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| tonytan4ever | But I am afraid I will be biased though... | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | #action tonytan4ever to reach out to the TaskFlow IRC channel to learn the differences between celery and taskflow | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: that will make for a lively converstaion haha | 19:14 |
| miqui_ | i can take a stab at it since i have not used either cele or tf | 19:14 |
| tonytan4ever | What's the channel of for TF ? openstack-taskflow | 19:15 |
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| tonytan4ever | ? | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | it will be on their wiki page | 19:15 |
| miqui_ | dont think so | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | #openstack-state-management on freenode | 19:16 |
| miqui_ | ah bit to the punch.. | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | #openstack-state-management | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | I am 10 secs late | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | i get the prize =P | 19:16 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok next one.... | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | hahaa | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui_: Update home doc | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | any update on this one? | 19:16 |
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| miqui_ | a, comcerned about this one..that i keep put off to do reviews and stuff.. | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | did you want to take your name off it? | 19:17 |
| miqui_ | i spent more time looking at our message queque design topics... | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | ya | 19:18 |
| miqui_ | if you are concerned this will miss the kilo-2 deadline then yes... | 19:18 |
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| amitgandhinz | k2 ends on thursday next week | 19:19 |
| miqui_ | i can try next couple of days to spend some time on it.. | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | ok give it a shot, else it may roll over to k3 | 19:19 |
| miqui_ | hmmm... | 19:19 |
| miqui_ | k... | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: DNS mimic plugin | 19:19 |
| obulpathi | I started again on this one today | 19:20 |
| obulpathi | its status remains the same | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | how much more work is left on it? | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | ie just started or nearly done? | 19:20 |
| obulpathi | about 2 days work | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:20 |
| obulpathi | finished the dns tests | 19:20 |
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| obulpathi | so, back to this one | 19:21 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | alright, those are all the bp that are in flight | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | i will do some grooming during the week to get the k3 cycle ready | 19:21 |
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| amitgandhinz | that will be hopefully getting us to a good point for a releasable version for operators (although it is technically releasable today) | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic New Items | 19:23 |
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| amitgandhinz | none | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:23 |
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| amitgandhinz | hmmm....what about to the irc bot? | 19:23 |
| obulpathi | what about it? | 19:23 |
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| amitgandhinz | idk im not seeing the topic change messages | 19:23 |
| mpanetta | It's missing :P | 19:23 |
| obulpathi | oh ok | 19:24 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok....any topics anyone wants to discuss? | 19:24 |
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| miqui_ | none from me... | 19:25 |
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| tonytan4ever | I have none, but I would like to see what would be the major tasks for us in K-3 | 19:25 |
| tonytan4ever | cyle | 19:25 |
| mpanetta | Which means this meeting may not be recorded :( | 19:25 |
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| amitgandhinz | so far we have this: https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/kilo-3 | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | and the stuff that will roll over from k2 | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | basically the queue driver, sqlalchemy support, and swift origin support | 19:26 |
| tonytan4ever | OK | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | speaking of which..... | 19:26 |
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| amitgandhinz | i spoke with some of the swift guys here regarding swift containers as origins | 19:27 |
| tonytan4ever | I did not see message queue blueprint though. | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | the approach we are going down is a piece of middleware that swift operators can deploy | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: its still in k2 thats why | 19:27 |
| tonytan4ever | Oh OKay. | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | the middleware will allow poppy to set up containers to be cdn enabled | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | and allow metadata to be set to allow edge servers to pull from origin with restricted access etc (ie provider verification) | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | hopefully i should have a spec from one of the swift devs by next week which will determine what needs to happen in the poppy code to support it | 19:29 |
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| obulpathi | cool | 19:30 |
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| amitgandhinz | are there any important features we think we need to add | 19:30 |
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| amitgandhinz | i need to add bp for vanity ssl | 19:30 |
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| amitgandhinz | also i have bp for cookie forwards to origin, forward headers, CORS support etc | 19:31 |
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| amitgandhinz | those are small items that should be pretty easy to implement (famous last words haha) | 19:31 |
| amitgandhinz | also we need to get devstack support | 19:32 |
| obulpathi | is devstack a requirement? | 19:33 |
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| obulpathi | or it is just kind of like live-cd , using which people can play with poppy? | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | it makes it easier for operators to install poppy on the env | 19:33 |
| obulpathi | ok | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | hopefully by the end of k3 we have a solid api with many of the loose ends handled, so that we can go into the next summit with a working product that operators can start deploying | 19:35 |
| amitgandhinz | ok any other questions? | 19:36 |
| obulpathi | no, nothing from me | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, thanks everyone | 19:38 |
| miqui_ | none from me.. | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:38 |
| miqui_ | thanks... | 19:38 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 15 19:38:24 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-15-19.00.html | 19:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-15-19.00.txt | 19:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-01-15-19.00.log.html | 19:38 |
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