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| Sukhdev | Hello ML2 'ers | 16:00 |
| banix | hi | 16:00 |
| rkukura | hi Sukhdev | 16:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 16:00 |
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| shivharis-1 | hi | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis-1: you changed you ID - whats up? | 16:01 |
| shivharis-1 | i think it did not get released in some other session, so not able to get it back, yet | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 18 16:02:41 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks, welcome to ML2 weekly meeting | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:03 |
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| yamahata | hello | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2 | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | I have couple of announcements - | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | As you may know I chair L2-Gateway subgroup meetings | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | and, we announced this week that the initial version of L2 GW API is implemented and ready for testing | 16:05 |
| shivharis-1 | congratulations! | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | I thought I pass that information here - this may be of use to you folks | 16:05 |
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| yamahata | awesome | 16:05 |
| yalie | con! | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | The wiki is here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/L2-GW | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | There is lots of good information | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata, yalie shivharis-1: Thanks | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | At the end of the wiki page, you will se devstack instructions to launch the L2 Gateway | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: Wiki looks great! Does this involve any changes to ML2 or its L2 agents? | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | We tested the full connectivity between VMs running on neutron networks with the bare metal servers running in legacy networks | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: No | 16:07 |
| rkukura | even better ;) | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | It works in conjunction with ML2 - it is implemented as a service plugin - like LBaas, VPNaas, etc | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | Initial implementation uses OVSDB | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | hardware VTEP schema - so VXLAN to VLAN interconnectivity via HW switches | 16:09 |
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| shivharis-1 | curious, what else can be used other than ovsdb? | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis-1: back-end can be anything - initial implementation uses OVSDB | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | This is just like any other service API | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | Another announcement is K3 feature freeze is this week - | 16:11 |
| shivharis-1 | Sukhdev: will talk to u offline, this is still announcements | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis-1: sure | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | K3 content is here - https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-3 | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | If you are working on anything for K3, be sure your patch/bug is included in this list | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | Anybody has any other announcement to make? | 16:12 |
| * Sukhdev waiting | 16:12 | |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: ML2 Drivers Decomposition | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | For past several weeks, this has been most discussed topic in this meeting | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | I noticed that a lots of progress has been made in this regard | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | I see lots of drivers have moved over already | 16:13 |
| sadasu | I have a question for armax regarding : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155436/14 | 16:14 |
| sadasu | One review comment regarding VIF_DRIVER_PROFILEID being moved over to vendor side | 16:14 |
| sadasu | is armax here? | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | sadasu: those comments seem very trivial | 16:15 |
| sadasu | yeah, before I make the change, need to make sure | 16:15 |
| sadasu | this constant defines the key for the VIF_DETAILS dictionary | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu: what is the concern? | 16:16 |
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| sadasu | just not sure if it is a good idea to move it to vendor side, it is consumed by Nova VIF driver and from their perspective | 16:16 |
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| sadasu | won't it be difficult to find where this is being set? | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | sadasu: His is suggesting put it where it is consumed - perhaps he is not aware who the consumers are | 16:17 |
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| sadasu | also, VIF_DETAILS is meant to hold feature specific values, do we want those keys defined in one place rather than spread over? | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu: So, if you believe, it belongs here, just simply answer in the review comments, and that should be good | 16:18 |
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| sadasu | Sukhdev: did that already... | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu: then I do not think there should be an issue - | 16:19 |
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| sadasu | I understand the overall goal is not to contaminate Neutron code with vendor stuff, but I believe this doesn't fall under that category | 16:20 |
| sadasu | lets move on | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else? | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/doc/source/devref/contribute.rst#how-to | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | See the growing list of drivers/plugin | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on this topic? | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: ML2 Sync/Task Flow | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev | Looks like manish is not here | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154333/ | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | Did folks have opportunity to review the patch? | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev | I hope I was able to articulate the issue which I see which can be solved by this | 16:24 |
| rkukura | I have not yet had a chance to followup to the followups on my comment | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | last week manish mentioned that he will take the discussion off-line. I was hoping to see an invite for discussion - did not see it | 16:25 |
| shivharis-1 | i think most folks were busy with k3 deliverables | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis-1: I think so | 16:26 |
| rkukura | shivharis-1: right - I’m hoping we can focus more on this between kilo and the summit | 16:26 |
| shivharis-1 | rkukura: me too | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | I actually like what he has in the patch - so, this is a good start | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | Anyway, since manish is not here, I suggest we table this | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | Unless anybody want to express openion on this? | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Bugs | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis-1: ola | 16:28 |
| shivharis-1 | We still have 4 high-prio bugs | 16:28 |
| shivharis-1 | i am not sure if these will make it at this stage,these may have to be moved for the final K release | 16:29 |
| rkukura | shivharis-1: I’m making progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1367391, but there is substantial work remaining | 16:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1367391 in neutron "ML2 DVR port binding implementation unnecessarily duplicates schema and logic" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura) | 16:30 |
| shivharis-1 | rkukura: this can then be K release | 16:30 |
| shivharis-1 | rkukura: heavens wont fall if it is moved out, right | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | I don’t see a problem with missing k-3, other than less chance of it making kilo at all | 16:31 |
| shivharis-1 | i think all seem to fall in that category, i am not holding my breath for these to get into k3 | 16:31 |
| shivharis-1 | i am hoping we make these in K, atleast | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | we still have lots of time for K3 | 16:32 |
| shivharis-1 | Anyother questions folk have on bugs? | 16:32 |
| shivharis-1 | anyone needs review help for medium bugs? | 16:33 |
| shivharis-1 | Sukhdev: K3 in tomorrow | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis-1: I do not believe that is true for the bugs - they can continue to go in all the way to the end of the month, I beieve | 16:34 |
| shivharis-1 | Sukhdev: k3 moved out? | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis-1: depends upon the criticality of the bug - | 16:34 |
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| rkukura | launchpad says kilo-3 is expected in 7 hours | 16:34 |
| banix__ | Sukhdev: that’s correct | 16:34 |
| shivharis-1 | Sukhdev: this is not my undestanding, once it is tagged it is over - we move to the next milestone | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | I may be confused between k3 and RC | 16:35 |
| banix__ | kilo-3 is tomorrow but bug fixes can get in afterward | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | we can get this bug into Kilo release itself | 16:36 |
| shivharis-1 | I will verify with infra | 16:36 |
| banix__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | banix__: thanks | 16:36 |
| shivharis-1 | looking... | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | yes, the release is not until end of April - so, I believe we have time to get the bugs in | 16:37 |
| shivharis-1 | k3 is Mar 19, you can continue on bugs for K release after that - but not the k3 milestone | 16:38 |
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| shivharis-1 | k3 is a tagged in the code base | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis-1: correct | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis-1: for the features | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on the bugs? | 16:39 |
| rkukura | Keep in mnd that only critical bug fixes are likely to get in after kilo-rc1, which is scheduled for early April, I think | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: correct | 16:39 |
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| shivharis-1 | anything else on bugs/any help needed for reviews? | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | Any body wants to discuss anything? | 16:41 |
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| Sukhdev | Looks like we are done | 16:41 |
| banix__ | bye | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks folks for joining | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:42 |
| shivharis-1 | bye | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | bye | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 18 16:42:21 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:42 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev ! | 16:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-03-18-16.02.html | 16:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-03-18-16.02.txt | 16:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-03-18-16.02.log.html | 16:42 |
| yamamoto | bye | 16:42 |
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| manishg | I've captured the discussion in gerrit. hoping to continue it there. some key questions / issues listed there. | 16:44 |
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| Kiall | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 18 17:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
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| Kiall | Hey folks, who's about? | 17:00 |
| rjrjr_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| vinod1 | o/ | 17:00 |
| timsim | o? | 17:00 |
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| elarson | o/ | 17:00 |
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| Kiall | So, considering k3 tomorrow, I'm mixing up the regurarily scheduled agenda.. Todays agenda is: | 17:01 |
| Kiall | Kilo Release Status, More Kilo Release Status, More More Kilo Release Status. ;) | 17:01 |
| Kiall | Any objections? | 17:01 |
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| vinod1 | none | 17:01 |
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| elarson | +1 | 17:01 |
| Kiall | #topic Kilo Release Status | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/kilo-3 | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | Looking better than last week :) But, still lots up for review and to complete. | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/designate+OR+project:openstack/python-designateclient+OR+project:openstack/designate-specs),n,z | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | So, Graham's been working on the validation cleanup (i.e. getting validation into V2 that actually works).. That's the only BP left on the k3 page, but we're missing one.. Pools->DB as discussed at the mid-cycle. | 17:03 |
| Kiall | Besides those, are we missing anything? | 17:04 |
| vinod1 | nothing else comes to mind | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | Cool, lets start with those validation ones then.. mugsie - can you give a quick status? | 17:05 |
| timsim | Yeah I think that's it | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163131/ | 17:05 |
| mugsie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164213/ | 17:05 |
| mugsie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164241/ | 17:05 |
| mugsie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164326/ | 17:05 |
| mugsie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165070/ | 17:05 |
| mugsie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165453/ | 17:05 |
| mugsie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165453/ | 17:05 |
| mugsie | are the review that are good to go | 17:05 |
| mugsie | my feature branch is so long right now that it is getting difficult to maintain it | 17:05 |
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| vinod1 | thanks mugsie - the list helps to start reviewing | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | there is some random commits in there - but they are the chain right now, so merging them would be helpful | 17:06 |
| Kiall | mugsie: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165453/ failing on pep8,py27 etc BTW | 17:07 |
| timsim | Does the API change for all those objects need to go in k3, or can that be rc1? | 17:07 |
| mugsie | yeap, i saw that just before the meet started | 17:07 |
| mugsie | timsim: I would like it to be k3 personally | 17:07 |
| mugsie | at least the start | 17:07 |
| mugsie | v1 may be pushed, but v2 not so much | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | timsim: ideally we try and land as much in k3 as possible, techincally feature freeze after that, so if there's bug fixing is no issue.. That said, we can allow new stuff in where we deem it important ;) | 17:08 |
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| timsim | Cool, it's not like it's some big functionality breaking feature anyway | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | that chain leads up to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164327/, which leads to finally having validation fixed between both APIs - and validation of record data etc etc inn V2 | 17:09 |
| Kiall | I believe those are the final bits, right mugsie? | 17:09 |
| mugsie | nope | 17:09 |
| mugsie | there is one more on my workstation | 17:10 |
| mugsie | that needs all ^ to go through :) | 17:10 |
| Kiall | Yea, that's the seconds "leads to" ;) | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | ah, yeah | 17:10 |
| Kiall | Ideally, we can spend the second half of the hour looking over the reviews, so we can get any Q+A done while everyone is at a keyboard :) | 17:11 |
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| vinod1 | Kiall: Did you get a chance to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1433585? | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1433585 in Designate "Zone creates in Tempest occasionally go to ERROR" [High,Triaged] | 17:12 |
| Kiall | Okay - Let's move on to the Pools DB (we'll come back to this..) Part 1/3 of that change is up - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165146/ - that's the refactor of the existing code that changes as part of it. | 17:12 |
| Kiall | vinod1: I started digging in, but am not quite sure what the trigger is yet | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | Part 2 of the Pools -> DB change will be up in the next 2-3 hours, it creates the vaious objects, and builds them up based on the config file - it has all the bits discussed at the mid-cycle, like the "targets" split etc | 17:13 |
| Kiall | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-mid-cycle-jan-2015 | 17:13 |
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| Kiall | But, Part #3/3 - Actually storing it in the DB will have to come after k3 :( | 17:14 |
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| ekarlso | o/ btw | 17:14 |
| ekarlso | i'm back and forth | 17:14 |
| Kiall | Right now, the config looks like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/193189/ - which turns into this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/193191/ | 17:15 |
| Kiall | once parsed | 17:15 |
| Kiall | (note that JSON-looking blob is a to_dict of the object, rather than 1:1 what the API looks like | 17:15 |
| Kiall | getting this in unblocks timsim's agent stuff, dynect, and pushing the Akamai driver.. | 17:16 |
| Kiall | pushing the akamai driver we have up* | 17:16 |
| Kiall | Any thoughts/comments on ^? | 17:16 |
| timsim | Can't wait to have it. | 17:16 |
| Kiall | Yea, it's been a long time coming.. I apologize ;) | 17:17 |
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| Kiall | I will have the config version up + ready before I leave the building tho.. and I'm in the office ;) | 17:17 |
| Kiall | the final changeset, actually storing it in the DB etc will come after - but I decided to take this route to unblock other stuff as quick as I could. | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | just need to get it in :D | 17:18 |
| mugsie | but we needed to unblock agent, which unblocks old style backends | 17:19 |
| mugsie | which is needed for K-final | 17:19 |
| Kiall | Yep - Exactly.. | 17:19 |
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| Kiall | So - I'd love to spend some time now giving people a chance to look through the reviews there, get any Q+A etc talked through while were all here :) Thoughts? | 17:20 |
| timsim | That sounds good | 17:20 |
| Kiall | #topic Final K3 Push - Review/Q+A/Mergefest (Hopefully? ;)) | 17:21 |
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| vinod1 | mugsie: In https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163131/4/designate/objects/zone_transfer_request.py, should there be a format specifier for domain_name as domainname (line 62) | 17:25 |
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| mugsie | vinod1: it doesnt matter, as that is loaded from the DB, and the user is never allowed set it | 17:25 |
| Kiall | vinod1: agh, I thought I found all the differences a few patchsets back :( | 17:25 |
| mugsie | (its read only) | 17:26 |
| mugsie | so we shouldn't be valdating it (that value never gets stored) | 17:26 |
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| timsim | I didn't have anything else on that PS | 17:28 |
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| mugsie | I just realised that I had a lot of code there | 17:33 |
| Kiall | ekarlso: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165514/, I know why we had reset_notifications now ;) I've left a comment with details. | 17:34 |
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| vinod1 | mugsie: Re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164213/, it looks like all the extensions have moved to admin extensions. So is there a need for the config setting enabled_extensions_v2? | 17:35 |
| Kiall | mugsie: yea, I think I forgot to say "quick review now rather than detailated examination etc ;)" - more for making sure any design Q's etc are worked out | 17:35 |
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| mugsie | vinod1: we should be able add extentions to v2 in the future | 17:35 |
| mugsie | or allow users to add them | 17:35 |
| Kiall | Yea, users can add extensions out-of-tree, so keeping that makes sense IMO.. | 17:36 |
| vinod1 | good to know that my nearly abandoned admin review is of some use | 17:36 |
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| mugsie | vinod1: yeah, i did a C+P job on it ;) | 17:37 |
| timsim | +A'd admin api | 17:37 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:37 |
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| Kiall | Also - There's another issue in the gate right now, exposed by paul's tempest stuff - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165390/ | 17:40 |
| Kiall | Though, I've not checked why the pdns gate has failed 3 times in a row on that one.. | 17:40 |
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| timsim | mugsie: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164241/5 doesn't do anything atm right? It's waiting on the errors future stuff will raise? | 17:42 |
| mugsie | timsim: yup | 17:43 |
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| timsim | +A'd validationmiddleware | 17:46 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:46 |
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| Kiall | Okay - With 10 (well.. 12) mins left, Let's move to Open Discussion in case anyone has something besides K3 stuff ;) | 17:48 |
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| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:48 |
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| Kiall | So - Anyone have something besides K3? | 17:49 |
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| timsim | I don't have anything :) | 17:50 |
| mugsie | I have nothing :) | 17:50 |
| Kiall | I think mugsie's just estatic a few of his reviews won't need more rebasing :P | 17:51 |
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| mugsie | yup | 17:51 |
| elarson | if folks wanted to take a peak at the hook api review | 17:51 |
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| elarson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164748/ | 17:52 |
| Kiall | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164747/ :) | 17:52 |
| elarson | no rush or anything, but just wanted to throw it out there | 17:52 |
| elarson | indeed! | 17:52 |
| * timsim is excited to try that out | 17:53 | |
| mugsie | its on my list, so post K3 100% will look | 17:53 |
| vinod1 | one comment that I had - what will happen to the domain when the hook blocks a domain create? | 17:53 |
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| elarson | vinod1: good question. since the hook has access to the designate code, it can do the right thing regarding setting it in the error state. | 17:54 |
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| vinod1 | we also need to ensure that the recovery/sync threads do not go and create the domain later on | 17:55 |
| elarson | right, the hook is responsible for being a good designate citizen in that regard and making sure things are in a reasonable state | 17:55 |
| Kiall | elarson: One pattern I've liked is the base WSGI mdidleware patten, https://github.com/openstack/oslo.middleware/blob/master/oslo_middleware/base.py#L21 | 17:55 |
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| Kiall | your before ~= their process_request | 17:56 |
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| Kiall | where, if process_request returns a value != None, it never even calls the wrapped method, and treats the return value as the result | 17:56 |
| elarson | yeah, I'm not totally sold on my before/after pattern, so I can imagine that could change based on what the requirements of an org needed to accomplish | 17:57 |
| Kiall | I wonder if that kinda patten fits, rather than before *needing* to raise an exception to prevent the hooked code from running | 17:57 |
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| timsim | One thing I saw yesterday. If you're at database migration 50. And you do designate-manage upgrade 45, it downgrades to 45. Same thing happens the other way :P | 17:57 |
| * elarson has to head out for an appt | 17:57 | |
| elarson | thanks all! | 17:57 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:57 |
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| Kiall | Okay, I'm going to call the meet here.. If people are still checking those K3 items, let's move to #openstack-dns :) | 17:57 |
| Kiall | and - don't forget this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165390/ ;) | 17:57 |
| Kiall | Thanks all :) | 17:58 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": ML2 Sync and error handling (Task Flow) - revisited (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 17:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 18 17:58:24 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-03-18-17.00.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-03-18-17.00.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-03-18-17.00.log.html | 17:58 |
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| SlickNik | Thanks Kiall! | 17:59 |
| * Kiall quickly issues a #startmeting not-trove ;) | 17:59 | |
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| SlickNik | lol | 18:00 |
| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 18 18:00:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| peterstac | o/ | 18:00 |
| georgelorch | o/ | 18:00 |
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| sushilkm | hello @all | 18:01 |
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| SlickNik | Agenda for today's meeting is at: | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:01 |
| mattvd | o/ | 18:01 |
| schang | o/ | 18:01 |
| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:01 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:02 |
| pmalik | o/ | 18:02 |
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| jodah | o/ | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | Pretty full agenda today, let's get started. | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | A lot more patchsets this week than last week. | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | Understandable, given the feature freeze is this week. | 18:04 |
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| SlickNik | However, fewer reviews than last week. | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | So we need to step up the reviews — especially over the next day to make sure that things that are in the pipeline for feature freeze make it through. | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | Thanks to all the folks who are reviewing code! | 18:07 |
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| SlickNik | Any questions / comments? | 18:08 |
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| SlickNik | Let's move on. | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | #topic Openstack Feature Freeze for kilo-3 | 18:09 |
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| SlickNik | So ttx is planning to cut the kilo-3 release tomorrow which means that we will be in Feature Freeze after that. | 18:10 |
| SlickNik | So no new features will be able to make it into the kilo release after that (without an exception). | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | Currently this is what we have planned for release in kilo-3: https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/kilo-3 | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/kilo-3 | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | There are a number of reviews for BPs that are still in the pipeline and need reviews. | 18:12 |
| dougshelley66 | SlickNik, so if the code for the 6 BPs isn't merged by tomorrow it will need an FFE to be put in after that? | 18:12 |
| vgnbkr | So what about patchsets that are fine but can't get past the gate because it's too slow? | 18:12 |
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| SlickNik | Well, if it can't make it past the gate, it can't go in — so it won't make it through. | 18:13 |
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| johnma | isnt the gate-trove-functional-dsvm-mysql tests failing currently? | 18:14 |
| dougshelley66 | we need amrith's commit to merge in infra https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165161/ | 18:14 |
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| dougshelley66 | anyway to help that along? | 18:14 |
| sushilkm | the tests are failing for the timeout | 18:15 |
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| vkmc | if there is a feature that cannot go through because of the gate | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | Yes, it looks like occasionally we will get a slow instance causing the tests to timeout. | 18:16 |
| vkmc | could we ask for a FFE? | 18:16 |
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| SlickNik | I pinged infra earlier this morning about getting some eyeballs on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165161/ | 18:17 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:17 |
| dougshelley66 | SlickNik, thx | 18:17 |
| SlickNik | Will have to ping again after this meeting. | 18:17 |
| amrith | sorry, what did I break? | 18:17 |
| * amrith reads scrollback quickly | 18:17 | |
| dougshelley66 | amrith, nothing - just trying to get your timeout fix merged | 18:17 |
| amrith | oh, I didn't break something. break out the champagne! | 18:18 |
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| SlickNik | vkmc: potentially yes, we could ask for a FFE. But we'll have to go through the FFE process and send out an email — and it's our / ttx's call at that point. | 18:18 |
| dougshelley66 | SlickNik, do you know when ttx is planning to cut kilo-3 (i.e. time of day) | 18:19 |
| vkmc | SlickNik, makes sense | 18:19 |
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| SlickNik | dougshelley66: He was looking to do it before end of day UTC, so around noon PDT tomorrow. | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | before* | 18:20 |
| dougshelley66 | ok thx | 18:20 |
| dougshelley66 | so we have about 24 hours | 18:20 |
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| SlickNik | Yes, that sounds about right — after which we can go the FFE route if needed. | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | Hopefully we don't have to do that. | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | So looking at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TroveKilo3Blueprints | 18:21 |
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| johnma | if we go the FFE route do we know when's the next code freeze going to be | 18:21 |
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| SlickNik | johnma: The earlier it is after the cut date (i.e. tomorrow) when the feature is ready to merge — the more likely that the exception will be granted. | 18:23 |
| dougshelley66 | looks like rc-1 is April 9 | 18:23 |
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| SlickNik | If we get into mid-next week or so and the feature is not mergeable by then, it becomes more and more unlikely that we'll take the exception. | 18:24 |
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| johnma | ok, thanks SlickNik | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | So at this point I have: | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | Close to merge: | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | - Guest Agent RPC Ping Pong Mgmt APIÂ | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | - Create a CouchDB plugin for Trove | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | Already has reviews and few hours to merge: | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | - Add Vertica datastore support in trove | 18:25 |
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| SlickNik | Still needs reviews / gate issues and will take longer: | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | - Replication V2Â | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | - Implement Vertica Cluster provisioning for Vertica Datastore | 18:26 |
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| SlickNik | And then there's also a FFE already that has been asked by johnma wrt the DB2 patches | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=db2-plugin-for-trove) | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | I'd like to focus on getting the ones that are close to merge merged (shouldn't take too long). | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | I'll go work with infra after this to try and iron out the gate issue. | 18:29 |
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| peterstac | I'll run through some tests with Vertica, if the dust has settled on that one | 18:29 |
| peterstac | Plus I can probably do CouchDB at the same time | 18:30 |
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| johnma | greatly appreciate that Peter. | 18:30 |
| sushilkm | thanks @peterstac | 18:30 |
| sushilkm | though would like to suggest its the same more or less :) | 18:30 |
| amrith | SlickNik, what's your thought re: replication v2? | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | But we will need reviews and folks to look at the other patches. | 18:30 |
| amrith | what do you propose re: that, and vertica cluster? | 18:30 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: I'd like to iron out the gate issues — however, I'm concerned that it only got pushed up 4-5 days ago and hasn't had enough folks look at it and review. | 18:32 |
| amrith | what is the process for an FFE? | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | So maybe the best course here is to apply for a FFE for it so that folks can get some time to review. | 18:33 |
| amrith | who should do it etc? | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureFreeze | 18:33 |
| amrith | ok, maybe we can discuss this after the meeting, no point holding up mtg for this. | 18:34 |
| SlickNik | The author of the patch sends out an email to the ML to get an exception. | 18:34 |
| SlickNik | amrith: sounds good. | 18:35 |
| johnma | I just did one yesterday. not sure if I wrote it correctly but I pretty much mentioned the link to the blueprint and the links to the patchset | 18:35 |
| SlickNik | #topic Switch from oslo namespace packages to "oslo_" style modules | 18:35 |
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| johnma | and we need follow the instructions in the link SlickNik just sent | 18:35 |
| SlickNik | So this came up on the ML, and we have some more information about it now. | 18:36 |
| SlickNik | For context see: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059031.html | 18:36 |
| sushilkm | so every owner of patchset needs to write that | 18:36 |
| SlickNik | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059031.html | 18:36 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, some guy had a patch set about this. | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | It seems like 1. The oslo namespace packages will definitely go away soon, and 2. using them means that we'd get "deprecated" error messages in our logs. | 18:37 |
| amrith | and I'd suggested he also make a hacking rule to prevent creep | 18:37 |
| amrith | and make sure these old references dont come in | 18:37 |
| amrith | I think he abandoned his patches yesterday. | 18:38 |
| amrith | do we want to do this for kilo or liberty? | 18:38 |
| SlickNik | I think this seems like something we can take before RC1 — it's a bugfix with not much impact. | 18:38 |
| amrith | and a hacking rule | 18:38 |
| SlickNik | yes. | 18:39 |
| amrith | or a test | 18:39 |
| amrith | as the case may be | 18:39 |
| amrith | either would work. | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | Yes, that should be good. | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | Folks okay with that? | 18:39 |
| amrith | q? | 18:40 |
| SlickNik | I'll take the silence as a yes :) | 18:40 |
| amrith | is the move trove guest to its own module going to be in Kilo? | 18:41 |
| amrith | schang? | 18:41 |
| amrith | the only thing I'd wonder is about the order in which we do this | 18:41 |
| schang | amrith: yes | 18:41 |
| amrith | there's that change from schang. | 18:41 |
| amrith | there are all the guest agents (new) that are gobs of new code | 18:41 |
| amrith | and I have some oslo gyrations which also change imports | 18:41 |
| schang | I'm still working on it, moved the common code out and now the int-test broke. | 18:42 |
| amrith | if we can do these in some pre agreed order, we can minimize rebase nightmares | 18:42 |
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| SlickNik | So I'm hearing that this will most likely be Liberty then. | 18:43 |
| amrith | SlickNik, please clarify what the *this* in your sentence above refers to. | 18:44 |
| schang | amrith: sorry, my previous yes was responding to your ping. I think the guest agent refactoring will be for Liberty. | 18:44 |
| SlickNik | this = move trove guest to its own module | 18:44 |
| amrith | th | 18:44 |
| amrith | thx | 18:44 |
| SlickNik | np | 18:45 |
| SlickNik | #topic Come up with a strategy to deal with Mock()ing utility methods | 18:45 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156486/ | 18:46 |
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| amrith | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1398966 | 18:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1398966 in Trove "the test method of Mock()'ing system module entry points (like os.unlink) has thread safety issues" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Amrith (amrith) | 18:47 |
| peterstac | I'll give the background on this quickly | 18:48 |
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| peterstac | (it was important as it seemed to affect several patchsets for BPs) | 18:48 |
| peterstac | (but it also seems to have been addressed somewhat) | 18:48 |
| peterstac | mocking out certain calls, such as execute_with_timeout, can cause unwanted behaviour | 18:49 |
| peterstac | as they are used in various places. Since all calls now use the mock'ed method, things can get unpredictable | 18:49 |
| peterstac | Amrith posted one way to fix this in #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138719/ | 18:49 |
| peterstac | This solves the problem, however necessitates changing production code just to facilitate testing | 18:49 |
| peterstac | There may be other ways to reduce the impact: | 18:50 |
| peterstac | 1. Having more utility helper methods that call execute_with_timeout for common actions (i.e. move_file, chmod) | 18:50 |
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| peterstac | 2. Putting the action into a private method (even if only called once) | 18:50 |
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| peterstac | Both these would allow mock'ing out just the method in question | 18:50 |
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| SlickNik | If you're mocking these calls if you make sure you mock it only for the current method (using a @patch header), or using a context manager ("with" statement) you should be safe, I think. | 18:51 |
| peterstac | It looks like the Vertica patchset has used option #2 | 18:51 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, NO! | 18:52 |
| amrith | @patch is just a decorator | 18:52 |
| amrith | it does the same thing | 18:52 |
| amrith | process wide | 18:52 |
| johnma | db2 patchset also uses #2, so my vote is for that. I did that precisely to help with testing | 18:52 |
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| SlickNik | yes, but we don't run more than one method at the same time in the process. | 18:52 |
| amrith | Python supports no thread specific mock() capability. | 18:52 |
| amrith | we don't run more than one, but the test harness can run multi-threaded. | 18:53 |
| SlickNik | Yes, but each thread runs its own python process. | 18:53 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, remember the issue with mongodb rename? | 18:53 |
| SlickNik | So mocking it out in one process cannot affect another. | 18:53 |
| amrith | which failed intermittently | 18:53 |
| amrith | that was this same mock() issue | 18:53 |
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| SlickNik | The problem there was that one method was replacing it with a Mock, and never putting back the original. | 18:54 |
| peterstac | I've been doing some tests with mock and the behaviour seems limited to the thread (and child threads) of where the mock'ing occurs | 18:54 |
| SlickNik | The tests were relying on an implicit ordering of the methods to run which was not true in that case. | 18:54 |
| amrith | let me find the chat on #openstack-oslo about this. | 18:54 |
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| peterstac | So one thread mock'ing out a method isn't reflected in another thread | 18:55 |
| amrith | SlickNik, the specific case mentioned in the bug with os.unlink() should never happen in that case. | 18:55 |
| amrith | There (when I entered this bug) I made one call to a method that called os.unlink() once | 18:55 |
| amrith | and a subsequent assert on calledOnce failed | 18:56 |
| amrith | as it felt os.unlink() was called twice. | 18:56 |
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| peterstac | Either way - I didn't mean to have a discussion right now about this (we don't have the time) | 18:56 |
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| amrith | the change for write_config() was made based on doug's recommendation and others on #openstack-oslo (who know a ton more python than I do) | 18:57 |
| peterstac | I just wanted to know what we should do wrt the patchsets in flight at the moment | 18:57 |
| SlickNik | amrith: +1 would be good to find out more about this discussion and get to the bottom of this. | 18:57 |
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| peterstac | I.E. defer this until early Liberty and revist it? | 18:57 |
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| SlickNik | peterstac: sure we use mocks with context managers, and @patch decorators pretty much all over the code (in trove and other OpenStack projects) — so I think that if this were an issue, it would have a much bigger impact. | 18:59 |
| SlickNik | But would be good to follow up on the discussions and figure out the details on what the underlying cause really is. | 18:59 |
| SlickNik | It seems like the current BPs have mitigations for it, which is fine for the moment. | 19:00 |
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| peterstac | Ok, so for now "with patch.object(object, methoc, etc. )" is good | 19:01 |
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| peterstac | *method* | 19:01 |
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| SlickNik | That was my understanding — but I think amrith has some info that might suggest that's not the case. | 19:02 |
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| amrith | yes, that was my understanding and therefore the change for write_config() in earlier patch. | 19:03 |
| SlickNik | Also, we're out of time — sushilkm can we move your topic to the next meeting? | 19:03 |
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| sushilkm | ok lets discuss it next meet | 19:03 |
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| SlickNik | sushilkm: thanks! | 19:03 |
| SlickNik | Let's continue the discussions in #openstack-trove. | 19:04 |
| SlickNik | Thanks all! | 19:04 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 19:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 18 19:04:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-03-18-18.00.html | 19:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-03-18-18.00.txt | 19:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-03-18-18.00.log.html | 19:04 |
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| xgerman | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 18 20:00:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 20:00 |
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| xgerman | #chair blogan | 20:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan xgerman | 20:00 |
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| bharath | o/ | 20:01 |
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| ptoohill | o/ | 20:01 |
| mwang2 | o/ | 20:01 |
| barclaac|2 | o/ | 20:01 |
| blogan | o/ | 20:01 |
| xgerman | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda#Meeting_2015-03-18 | 20:01 |
| ajmiller | o/ | 20:01 |
| sballe | o/ | 20:02 |
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| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:02 | |
| xgerman | Crunch time for Neutron LBaaS; SSL merged yesterday... | 20:03 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:03 |
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| * TrevorV late but present | 20:03 | |
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| bedis | o/ | 20:03 |
| xgerman | that's all the announcements I can think of... | 20:03 |
| rm_work | barclaac|2: are you barclaac's evil twin, or just a clone? :) | 20:04 |
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| barclaac|2 | no damn idea. I think it thinks I'm signed in somewhere else, probably on my phone. | 20:04 |
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| jorgem | o/ | 20:04 |
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| xgerman | Moving on... | 20:05 |
| xgerman | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:05 | |
| johnsom | Controller worker is functional through the listener methods. Still to finish is pool, member, and health. Would like to have a network driver and amphora driver to test against and make sure that is all wired up correctly. | 20:06 |
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| TrevorV | johnsom my focus starting tomorrow should be on the SSH driver, which is theoretically done. | 20:06 |
| sballe | Amphora rest driver: working on "rebasing" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145637/12 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144348/ of Jinja Templates: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157537/ Talk to TrevorV and ptoohill and got their ok since they are the original authors of the patches. Will start to test as soon as I have rebased and added in my changes. | 20:06 |
| blogan | i can update on the network driver, ill be restarting back on that this weekend and next week, i expect ill have a simple implementation done using the allowed address pairs for HA and vrrp | 20:06 |
| johnsom | Also there is a discrepancy between the api spec and the api code blogan put in about where database updates are occurring. API server side vs. controller side | 20:07 |
| xgerman | Amphora REST server is finished -- will do another push but then need some eyes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160034/ | 20:07 |
| blogan | johnsom: are you talkinga bout the update actions being done on the api side but should be done on the controller side? | 20:08 |
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| johnsom | I am fine with them on the API side, but worried that the spec says otherwise. So far I have coded expecting the API side to do them per the code that is currently merged | 20:08 |
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| blogan | johnsom: i think what we ended up agreeing to was that only the creates get put into the db API side, and then updates and deletes just update the status | 20:09 |
| blogan | the controller will do the actual db update and deletion | 20:09 |
| blogan | but i can update the spec to specify that | 20:10 |
| xgerman | updating spec = goodness | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Yeah, if you could just take a quick look at spec vs code it would be great! | 20:10 |
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| blogan | johnsom: sure will, but what i said above, does that sound right? | 20:11 |
| johnsom | I am fine with that, yes | 20:11 |
| blogan | my memory has bit rot for octavia | 20:11 |
| xgerman | I remember it that way also | 20:11 |
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| blogan | ok ill update the spec | 20:11 |
| johnsom | Thanks! | 20:11 |
| blogan | #action blogan update api and controller specs to reflect what has been the final agreement | 20:11 |
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| xgerman | now the other piece is dougwig's lbaas-v2 octavia driver... | 20:12 |
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| blogan | which i doubt will make it in for kilo | 20:13 |
| dougwig | no, and i'll start it in the octavia tree. | 20:13 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:13 |
| xgerman | I thought that was our plan for a long time ;-) | 20:13 |
| xgerman | out of tree | 20:14 |
| TrevorV | way to keep up dougwig , geez | 20:14 |
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| dougwig | sorry, kilo slammed today | 20:16 |
| * TrevorV was kidding | 20:16 | |
| sballe | dougwig: no problem. We understand | 20:16 |
| xgerman | mwang2 added a config frive to compute so we can shuffle files/data around | 20:16 |
| xgerman | sballe +1 | 20:16 |
| xgerman | also I will keep it brief and try to steer clear of controversial topics ;-) | 20:17 |
| sballe | xgerman: +1 | 20:17 |
| xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:17 | |
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| blogan | i like turtles | 20:18 |
| bedis | ? | 20:18 |
| blogan | it was quiet | 20:18 |
| bedis | blogan: I like them too, in a soup | 20:18 |
| sballe | blogan: to eat? or as pets | 20:18 |
| ptoohill | lol | 20:19 |
| blogan | both~ | 20:19 |
| blogan | okay, i think we'll all be able to focus on octavia soon, at least put a lot more focus on it | 20:20 |
| xgerman | yeah, I think we are close to end-to-end | 20:20 |
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| johnsom | Excellent. I think we are getting close | 20:20 |
| blogan | yep, just need the network driver and polishing | 20:20 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:21 |
| xgerman | and the neutron lbaas v2 driver for true end-to-end | 20:21 |
| sballe | are we done in this meeting? | 20:21 |
| xgerman | #endmeeting | 20:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": ML2 Sync and error handling (Task Flow) - revisited (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 20:21 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 18 20:21:38 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-18-20.00.html | 20:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-18-20.00.txt | 20:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-18-20.00.log.html | 20:21 |
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| xgerman | sballe - done and done | 20:22 |
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