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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 2 15:00:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello everyone | 15:00 |
| lpabon | o/ | 15:00 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:00 |
| u_glide | hello | 15:00 |
| rraja | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:00 |
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| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | #topic Kilo-RC1 status (bugs) | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo-RC1 status (bugs) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
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| markstur | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | so we will not meet our goal of releasing RC1 today | 15:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
| rushil | \o | 15:01 |
| jvarlamova | hello | 15:01 |
| csaba | hi | 15:01 |
| ganso_ | hello | 15:01 |
| xyang1 | Hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | at this point it's a day-by-day question when to make the RC | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 15:02 |
| bswartz | when everything on this page is green, we will cut RC1 | 15:02 |
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| vponomaryov | even #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1356588 ? | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1356588 in Manila "manila: pylint wrong continued indentation issues" [Low,New] - Assigned to Danny Al-Gaaf (danny-al-gaaf) | 15:03 |
| bswartz | Right now I'm hoping that day will be Tuesday 7 April or earlier | 15:03 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I want to talk about that one | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | in fact we will talk about all of these | 15:03 |
| bswartz | first, the blueprint | 15:03 |
| bswartz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/automatic-cleanup-of-share-servers | 15:03 |
| bswartz | This one looks good | 15:04 |
| bswartz | thanks for helping out with this u_glide | 15:04 |
| bswartz | and welcome back | 15:04 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1356588 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1356588 in Manila "manila: pylint wrong continued indentation issues" [Low,New] - Assigned to Danny Al-Gaaf (danny-al-gaaf) | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | this one, I can't figure out if its' still a problem | 15:04 |
| u_glide | bswartz: wellcome | 15:05 |
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| mkwiek | exit | 15:05 |
| bswartz | some people are having trouble reading the channel -- maybe it's lagged? | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | ? | 15:05 |
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| cknight | bswartz: seems ok here | 15:05 |
| lpabon | seems fine to me | 15:06 |
| bswartz | okay I guess at least some people are okay | 15:06 |
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| toabctl | fine for me | 15:06 |
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| u_glide | cknight:+1 | 15:06 |
| markstur | me too | 15:06 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:06 |
| bswartz | so this pylint issue | 15:06 |
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| vponomaryov | I guess it should be postponed to Liberty | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I haven't been ably to find dalgaaf | 15:06 |
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| lpabon | are other reviews having an issue with pylint? I haven't seen the isue pop up | 15:06 |
| bswartz | it's not essential for Kilo, but if it's actually fixed already I'd like to just close it | 15:07 |
| lpabon | for example: review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169917/ which is new, does not have an issue | 15:07 |
| bswartz | we've been kicking it across milestones the whole release, and I can't find any evidence that there's any real problem | 15:07 |
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| lpabon | with pylint that is | 15:07 |
| bswartz | so I'd like someone to take it over and verify if it's even valid anymore | 15:07 |
| lpabon | i'll takeit | 15:08 |
| bswartz | lpabon: thank you! | 15:08 |
| lpabon | np | 15:08 |
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| tbarron | lpabon: well that review doesn't have any issues at all :-) | 15:08 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1438893 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1438893 in Manila "NetApp cDOT driver is too strict in delete workflows" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Clinton Knight (clintonk) | 15:08 |
| lpabon | tbarron: ;-) | 15:08 |
| bswartz | cknight you own this one | 15:08 |
| cknight | bswartz: yep | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | estimate for when it will be ready for review? | 15:08 |
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| cknight | bswartz: a few days, there is some discovery on this one. Valeriy had some input as well. | 15:09 |
| bswartz | is merged by Tuesday a realistic goal? | 15:09 |
| bswartz | or will it take longer than that? | 15:09 |
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| cknight | bswartz: I'll do my best! | 15:09 |
| cknight | bswartz: In any case, it shouldn't be a large review. | 15:10 |
| bswartz | okay -- my fear is that that bug might be the last one holding up RC1 | 15:10 |
| bswartz | because the rest look close to done | 15:10 |
| cknight | bswartz: understood | 15:10 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1438825 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1438825 in Manila "Creation of share server should fail early with VXLAN, GRE with NetApp cDOT driver" [Low,Triaged] - Assigned to Rushil Chugh (rushil) | 15:10 |
| cknight | bswartz: This one is coded and in internal review. | 15:10 |
| bswartz | rushil: this is the other one not ready for review yet | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | so perhaps upstream by later today? | 15:11 |
| rushil | bswartz: I just pushed the fix to our internal CI | 15:11 |
| lpabon | cknight: what does internal review mean? | 15:11 |
| lpabon | cknight: company review? | 15:11 |
| bswartz | lpabon: netapp runs a private gerrit where code is tested/reviewed before pushing upstream | 15:11 |
| cknight | lpabon: Our internal CI system also uses gerrit, so by the time we push anything upstream, it has gone through extensive internal reviews. | 15:11 |
| lpabon | that's pretty cool | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | not really =) | 15:12 |
| bswartz | it's something our lawyers make us do, but it actually results in a lot of benefits for us quality-wise | 15:12 |
| lpabon | lol | 15:12 |
| tbarron | vponomaryov: :-) | 15:12 |
| cknight | lpabon: Yes, it is! But it introduces some delay as well. | 15:12 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: :-) | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | okay so that one sounds like it's in okay shape | 15:13 |
| bswartz | please push it upstream without delay | 15:13 |
| cknight | bswartz: +1 | 15:13 |
| bswartz | there are 6 more bugs "in progress" | 15:13 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1437509 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1437509 in Manila "cDOT driver can leave shares in world-readable state" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Clinton Knight (clintonk) | 15:13 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1370761 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1370761 in Manila "NetApp cDOT driver uses a deprecated API for NFS export management" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Clinton Knight (clintonk) | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1420369 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1420369 in Manila "manila create from snapid fails to inherit share type" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Tom Barron (tpb) | 15:14 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1434918 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434918 in Manila "NetApp cDOT multi-SVM driver may choose unsuitable physical port for LIFs" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Clinton Knight (clintonk) | 15:14 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1437176 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1437176 in Manila "glusterfs_native: Unable to create shares using newly available GlusterFS volumes without restarting manila share service" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Csaba Henk (chenk) | 15:14 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1259988 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1259988 in Manila "NetApp cDOT driver should split clone from snapshot after creation" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Clinton Knight (clintonk) | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | please prioritize these reviews | 15:14 |
| cknight | bswartz: All of mine are in upstream review and are my highest priority to get merged. | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | csaba: yours appears to have a -1 | 15:15 |
| bswartz | actually 3 -1s | 15:15 |
| bswartz | let's get those addressed | 15:15 |
| csaba | bswartz: yes, we are fixing those | 15:15 |
| bswartz | okay cool | 15:15 |
| bswartz | does anyone have any other bugs that need targeted to RC1? | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | I see these 2 being worked on but not targeted: | 15:16 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1439030 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1439030 in Manila "config_group_name missing in NeutronNetworkHelper" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to li,chen (chen-li) | 15:16 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-manilaclient/+bug/1439683 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1439683 in python-manilaclient "Client fails with error instead of raising exception" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Igor Malinovskiy (imalinovskiy) | 15:16 |
| bswartz | oh nevermind that second one -- it's a client change | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | chen12: you here? | 15:17 |
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| csaba | bswartz: I have two bugs for which I'm working on the fix and.... a third one that I have not yet even filed to launchpad as I was not sure about its scope (now I made sure, so I can go ahead with filing it) | 15:18 |
| bswartz | csaba: ! | 15:18 |
| bswartz | please make sure you're filing bugs as you discover issues | 15:18 |
| csaba | those two are: | 15:18 |
| csaba | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1439198 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1439198 in Manila "glusterfs_native corrupts GlusterFS backend" [Undecided,New] | 15:19 |
| csaba | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1417352 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1417352 in Manila "Failed to allow-access for native_glusterfs" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Csaba Henk (chenk) | 15:19 |
| bswartz | and if they're critical, please find a bug supervisor to target it | 15:19 |
| markstur | who are the bug supervisors? | 15:20 |
| csaba | bswartz: whom are exactly bug supervisors/ | 15:20 |
| csaba | yeah same question :) | 15:20 |
| bswartz | https://launchpad.net/~manila-bug-supervisors | 15:20 |
| bswartz | right now it's the same members as the core reviewer team | 15:20 |
| bswartz | but we will probably want to split those responsibilities later | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | okay, so csaba are you asking for both of those bugs to be RC1-targeted? | 15:22 |
| lpabon | they look pretty critical to me | 15:22 |
| csaba | bswartz: if possible | 15:22 |
| bswartz | okay I will follow up with both at the conclusion of this meeting | 15:23 |
| bswartz | that's it for RC1 | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | if we still have open bugs next week and I can't get solid commitments to finish them, we'll have to consider punting them to liberty | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | #topic Liberty design summit | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | The dates are May 19-22 | 15:25 |
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| markstur | be there | 15:25 |
| bswartz | so we've got a few weeks to propose topics and get a schedule together | 15:25 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-liberty-proposed-sessions | 15:25 |
| cknight | markstur: +1 | 15:25 |
| bswartz | I created this blank etherpad to collect the proposals | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | in future weeks we will discuss the proposed topics and find a way to make them fit into the time we get | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: "Fishbowl" sessions? | 15:26 |
| lpabon | quick question, what is meant by "fishbowl" ? | 15:26 |
| bswartz | I haven't checked back yet, but it sounds like we are likely to get the session we asked for | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | lpabon =) | 15:26 |
| bswartz | haha | 15:26 |
| bswartz | there was a thread on this topic, late last year | 15:26 |
| lpabon | lol | 15:26 |
| bswartz | the design summit is changing formats again | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | nice | 15:27 |
| bswartz | so fishbowl sessions are what we've done in the past -- with a large room and a area at the front where the chairs are arranged more or less in a semicircle | 15:27 |
| bswartz | those are intended to present ideas, to have discussions at the front of the room, and for a large audience to be able to sit in an observe (as often happens) | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | working sessions are a new concept where the team can get together around a boardroom-style table and actually work on stuff | 15:29 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: can you please add description in etherpad? | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | there is less room for onlookers in the working sessions | 15:29 |
| lpabon | ah | 15:29 |
| bswartz | I'll provide links to the appropriate threads when I dig them up | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | we can get into more detail about this in coming weeks, but I wanted to provide a place to jot down ideas because we should start doing that now | 15:30 |
| tbarron | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/054122.html | 15:30 |
| bswartz | anyone who has ideas should be prototyping them and writing up designs/specs/blueprints this month | 15:31 |
| bswartz | tbarron: thanks! | 15:31 |
| bswartz | I guess it was early this year not late last year | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | that's all I'll say about the design summit for now | 15:32 |
| bswartz | I'll add my own proposals soon and more info about the format and what we expect to get, space/time-wise | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | #topic Documentation | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | so as Kilo winds down and we fix the remaining bugs, we need to refresh our docs | 15:33 |
| bswartz | a lot of docs haven't been touched since Juno! | 15:34 |
| bswartz | people on my team are doing what they can, but it's a lot of work, and we're looking for people with spare cycles who can help with this | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | docs for network plugins are absent at all =) | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | We need to refresh: the admin guide, the user docs, the SDK docs, the developer docs, various driver docs, etc | 15:35 |
| lpabon | i'm going to focus on developer docs | 15:36 |
| bswartz | also, I've been talking with annegentle about the possibility of contributing our docs to the openstack-manuals project instead of what we've done in the past | 15:36 |
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| markstur | for Kilo? or L | 15:37 |
| bswartz | there is a possible legal hurdle there, but if we can solve that issue I would prefer to migrate our docs to the official openstack-manuals project | 15:37 |
| bswartz | possibly for Kilo | 15:37 |
| markstur | nice | 15:37 |
| markstur | if possible | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | it will happen eventually -- the sooner the better IMO | 15:38 |
| lpabon | bswartz: do you mean "our docs" as NetApp or Manila? | 15:38 |
| bswartz | Manila | 15:38 |
| lpabon | ok | 15:38 |
| bswartz | in this room I wear my manila hat and leave my netapp hat at the door | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | lpabon: which are in manila repo and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/ | 15:38 |
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| lpabon | All this time I didn't know about this: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/devref/index.html ! I went to the wiki looking for this info | 15:39 |
| bswartz | doh! | 15:40 |
| bswartz | looks like we might need to add a link | 15:40 |
| lpabon | we'll, that'll be my first fix ;-) | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | anyways, I'm coordinating the docs refresh, so if anyone has cycles, please reach out to me and I'll try to ensure we don't have duplication of effort | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:41 |
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| bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:42 |
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| bswartz | oh, you may have seen I nominated cknight for the core reviewer team on the ML this morning | 15:42 |
| toabctl | already added my +1 on the list. good nomination IMO | 15:43 |
| bswartz | please offer support on the ML thread if you agree | 15:43 |
| tbarron | toabctl: +1 | 15:43 |
| markstur | I thought only the core +1s actually count though. Is that right? | 15:43 |
| bswartz | well there is no official vote that occurs | 15:44 |
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| markstur | Oh. +100 then | 15:44 |
| bswartz | technically, the existing core team are the opinions that count | 15:44 |
| ganso_ | lol | 15:44 |
| cknight | bswartz: I appreciate the nomination. The honor is to serve. :-) | 15:44 |
| markstur | Sir Knight | 15:44 |
| bswartz | usually, core team additions are unanimous consent from among the existing core team, but feedback from others is welcome | 15:44 |
| markstur | Good to know. | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | if anyone has concerns they're not comfortable sharing publicly, please reach out to individual core team members and share them | 15:45 |
| bswartz | myself included | 15:45 |
| lpabon | i do have one concern | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | that's all I've got | 15:46 |
| lpabon | not a big one | 15:46 |
| lpabon | ah nevermind.. no biggie | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | please share it | 15:47 |
| lpabon | just from experience (for example Swift) it may be "interesting" to have multiple core members from the same company | 15:47 |
| bswartz | if anyone is concerned about the balance of the core team, that goal has been to try to grow it to 6 people in the kilo timeframe | 15:48 |
| bswartz | and I'm aware of worries about too many people from too few companies | 15:48 |
| lpabon | what tends to happen is that core members from the same company tend to vote similarly | 15:48 |
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| lpabon | just my $0.02 | 15:48 |
| bswartz | my next nomination will be from a different company (not netapp or mirantis or EMC) | 15:48 |
| bswartz | lpabon: thanks for sharing that -- it's a definite concern that I'm aware of | 15:49 |
| bswartz | I've been talking to various candidates privately to gauge interest | 15:49 |
| lpabon | bswartz: cool thanks | 15:49 |
| bswartz | for those that don't know, what we look for is a history of consistent high quality code reviews over a period of 2 months or more | 15:50 |
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| cknight | lpabon: FWIW, Ben is spectacularly good at representing the Manila community's interests even when they don't align perfectly with NetApp's. I don't see an issue in this case. | 15:50 |
| cknight | lpabon: But thanks for raising the question. | 15:51 |
| bswartz | other considerations for core reviewer membership include: code contributions (preferably to core), participation in meetings, IRC channel, mail list, and meetups | 15:51 |
| lpabon | cknight: i agree, but my main concern is "the man" (the lawyers) behind the developers | 15:51 |
| bswartz | but it's primarily a code REVIEWING job so that's that main requirement | 15:51 |
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| bswartz | my distaste for legal BS is well-known | 15:53 |
| lpabon | lol | 15:53 |
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| lpabon | again, just my opinion | 15:53 |
| bswartz | and I would hope that if anyone feels that I'm choosing netapp's interests over the interest of the community that you don't support me when I run for PTL | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | I try very hard to support the interests of the community first | 15:54 |
| lpabon | bswartz: i think you are doing great, imho | 15:54 |
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| bswartz | anyways, we've veered off topic | 15:54 |
| tbarron | fwiw, I see bswartz representing the community's interests within netapp, educating our company, regularly | 15:55 |
| vponomaryov | yeah, we were having situation when vacations of cores were breaking possibility to merge changes with 2 +2 | 15:55 |
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| bswartz | thanks vponomaryov, that was the motivation for growing the core team | 15:55 |
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| bswartz | my target number is 6, but we could continue to grow in liberty | 15:56 |
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| markstur | I having 2 from a company will actually be handy for you guys to cover each others gaps (vacations, etc) | 15:56 |
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| markstur | and representing at the summit | 15:56 |
| bswartz | we have a lot of great candidates thanks to greatly increase participation during kilo | 15:56 |
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| Xyang2 | This happened in other projects too. Manila is not the only one with more than 2 cores from the same company | 15:57 |
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| bswartz | maybe we should adopt an informal rule that if there are 2 cores form the same company, we should not merge a change with only +2s from that company | 15:58 |
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| Xyang2 | Then it doesn't help the vacation situation :) | 15:58 |
| bswartz | that would prevent a single company from merging changes unilaterally, while still allowing us to expand the team to get more review bandwidth and to cover during vacations, etc | 15:58 |
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| cknight | bswartz: +1 | 15:59 |
| bswartz | it would help | 15:59 |
| Xyang2 | i think it depends on the patches | 15:59 |
| lpabon | awesome | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | because cknight and I rarely take vacations at the same time | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | and the same is probably true of vponomaryov and u_glide | 15:59 |
| cknight | bswartz: What is this "vacation" you speak of? | 15:59 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:59 |
| lpabon | lol | 15:59 |
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| markstur | lol | 15:59 |
| Xyang2 | with big patch, we should encourage more people to review before merge | 15:59 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: workaholic? =) | 15:59 |
| bswartz | xyang2: that too | 16:00 |
| markstur | (I'm on vacation right now) | 16:00 |
| bswartz | okay we're past our time | 16:00 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: guilty (but you are too!) | 16:00 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
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| vponomaryov | thanks | 16:00 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 2 16:00:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| toabctl | thanks. bye | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-04-02-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-04-02-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-04-02-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| Xyang2 | to be clear, I was not on vacation | 16:00 |
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| kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 2 16:01:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:01 |
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| angdraug | hi | 16:01 |
| docaedo | Hello | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | agenda as usual | 16:01 |
| barthalion | hi there | 16:01 |
| vkramskikh | hi | 16:01 |
| mkwiek | hello | 16:01 |
| prmtl | hey | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
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| agordeev | hi | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | just few topics to discuss | 16:02 |
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| xarses | hi | 16:02 |
| akislitsky_ | hi | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Openrc changes (xarses) | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openrc changes (xarses) (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:02 | |
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| xarses | I have been working to remove deps in fuel on /root/openrc. We are keeping it around for the administrators, but we shouldn't be using it anymore. | 16:03 |
| xarses | The last commit open is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158995/ the last revision failed CI, but I should have it passing today | 16:03 |
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| xarses | any questions? | 16:03 |
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| angdraug | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1396594 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1396594 in Fuel for OpenStack 6.1.x "/root/openrc is used for Neutron scripts" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Andrew Woodward (xarses) | 16:03 |
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| angdraug | ^ got reopened today, anyone can comment why? | 16:04 |
| angdraug | aglarendil: xarses: ^ | 16:04 |
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| xarses | huh, aglarendil, changed it. I will have to follow up with him | 16:05 |
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| angdraug | was that because https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158995/ refers to that bug in commit message as Related? | 16:06 |
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| xarses | openstack infra should have done it if it was part of that i guess | 16:07 |
| angdraug | any doc changes to prevent people from using openrc in the future? | 16:07 |
| kozhukalov | aglarendil: is in the office but is not going to join us | 16:07 |
| kozhukalov | maybe later | 16:07 |
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| xarses | angdraug: other than we need to post to the ML, I'm not sure | 16:08 |
| angdraug | maybe a subsection for dev guid? | 16:08 |
| angdraug | guide? | 16:08 |
| angdraug | e.g. "How to use Keystone credentials in fuel-library" | 16:08 |
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| xarses | ok | 16:08 |
| zigo | hi | 16:09 |
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| angdraug | moving on? | 16:09 |
| kozhukalov | yes | 16:09 |
| aglarendil | actually I am here | 16:09 |
| kozhukalov | looks like no one has any q | 16:09 |
| aglarendil | Just answering xarses question | 16:09 |
| aglarendil | here is a review https://review.openstack.org/158995 | 16:09 |
| aglarendil | It says it is related to openrc usage | 16:10 |
| aglarendil | and it is still not merged | 16:10 |
| kozhukalov | aglarendil: ^^^ can you give us the reason why this https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1396594 was reopened | 16:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1396594 in Fuel for OpenStack 6.1.x "/root/openrc is used for Neutron scripts" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Andrew Woodward (xarses) | 16:10 |
| angdraug | aglarendil: so my guess was right, you want to keep that bug open until 158995 is merged? | 16:10 |
| kozhukalov | angdraug: yes, you were right | 16:10 |
| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:10 |
| aglarendil | angdraug: yes | 16:10 |
| kozhukalov | #topic 200 nodes status (dbelova) | 16:11 |
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| DinaBelova | folkf, I simply want to ask you about two bugs statuses | 16:12 |
| DinaBelova | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1431547 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1438127 | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1431547 in Fuel for OpenStack 6.1.x "Public VIP is inaccessible from external networks" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Oleksiy Molchanov (omolchanov) | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1438127 in Fuel for OpenStack "No internet access at fuel plugin pre-deploy, ubuntu" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Oleksiy Molchanov (omolchanov) | 16:12 |
| kozhukalov | DinaBelova: could you please give us the status of this feature? only those two bugs are actual? right? | 16:13 |
| kozhukalov | everything else works? | 16:13 |
| DinaBelova | kozhukalovo, may we please postpone my topic? | 16:14 |
| DinaBelova | I'm on call right now | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | aglarendil: ^^^ can you give a comment on the first one? | 16:14 |
| aglarendil | yep | 16:14 |
| aglarendil | the actual problem is incorrect routing table for haproxy namespaces | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | DinaBelova: ahh, ok | 16:14 |
| aglarendil | the solution is to route all the traffic that is routable through host controller through hapr-ns interface | 16:15 |
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| aglarendil | Oleksii Molchanov is working on the fix right now | 16:15 |
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| aglarendil | workaround is pretty simple - get cidrs of your networks like internal/storage/whatever and run | 16:16 |
| kozhukalov | and the second one is also up to him? right? | 16:16 |
| aglarendil | `ip netns exec haproxy ip r r <cidr> via 240.0.0.1 dev hapr-ns` | 16:16 |
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| aglarendil | kozhukalov: We did not start investigation yet | 16:17 |
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| aglarendil | kozhukalov: but yes, I think we already have the solution in mind | 16:17 |
| mihgen | As I understand, alwex has a workaround already for this VIP issue | 16:17 |
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| kozhukalov | aglarendil: ok, thanx | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | another bug which was found by scale team couple days ago | 16:19 |
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| kozhukalov | is that for IBP + centos admin interface was not properly configured | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | it's been fixed | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169736/ | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | and another issue is still not completely clear | 16:21 |
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| kozhukalov | it is related to the lack of resources on the master node | 16:21 |
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| DinaBelova | folks, I'm here again :) | 16:21 |
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| kozhukalov | DinaBelova: have you managed to increase master node resources and test 200 nodes again? | 16:22 |
| barthalion | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169736/ it has hit me really hard some time ago :( | 16:22 |
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| barthalion | I mean, the bug | 16:22 |
| barthalion | so cheers for fixing it | 16:22 |
| kozhukalov | ^^^ there was an issue | 16:22 |
| DinaBelova | @kozhukalov - it's in progress, as redeployment took much time | 16:22 |
| DinaBelova | so we'll see the results later today | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | DinaBelova: great | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | looking forward | 16:23 |
| DinaBelova | so basically issue with public VIPs unaccessible from the external network is preventing us nut just from 200 nodes feature certification | 16:23 |
| DinaBelova | but also from the failure/stability testing | 16:24 |
| DinaBelova | as we wanted to certify 6.1 from this point of view as well | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | like aglarendil said it is quite easy to fix it | 16:24 |
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| DinaBelova | if so, it will be perfect | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | his ETA for this is optimistic | 16:24 |
| DinaBelova | and we're waiting SO MUCH for this fix | 16:24 |
| DinaBelova | as theoretically we needed to start this failure testing this week | 16:25 |
| DinaBelova | but it's not possible now | 16:25 |
| maximov | Dina you should have a workaround for VIP issue | 16:25 |
| aglarendil | folks, Oleksii is working on it already - give us a day and everything will be fine | 16:25 |
| DinaBelova | @maximov - we use it | 16:25 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, if there are no other q, moving on | 16:25 |
| DinaBelova | the issue is that this workaround does not work with the killing controllers :) | 16:25 |
| DinaBelova | VIPs start migrating, and workaround works only if all VIPs are on one controller | 16:26 |
| maximov | ok I see | 16:26 |
| DinaBelova | so now we're unblocked speaking about simple testing | 16:26 |
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| DinaBelova | usual dataplane and controlplane | 16:26 |
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| DinaBelova | but as for the failure, we're still blocked | 16:26 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic IBP (agordeev) | 16:27 |
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| agordeev | Build script rewriting is still in progress. | 16:27 |
| agordeev | Also bash version of build script is not fixed yet. These two patches should be merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168090/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166774/ in order to fix it. At least our scale lab and BVT jobs are affected by those two. | 16:27 |
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| maximov | @agordeev do we have ETA for build script? | 16:28 |
| kozhukalov | dpyzhov_: can we merge those two? | 16:28 |
| kozhukalov | dpyzhov_: ^^^ | 16:28 |
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| agordeev | maximov: we are going to start to be able execute very raw version of it by tomorrow | 16:29 |
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| agordeev | about ETA, I'd say 1w | 16:29 |
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| dpyzhov_ | I'm looking on this fixes | 16:30 |
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| dpyzhov_ | ok, merging | 16:30 |
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| kozhukalov | another critical bug for IBP is non working progress bar | 16:30 |
| kozhukalov | during building of target images and provisioning | 16:31 |
| kozhukalov | afaik warpc__ is going to implement this tomorrow | 16:31 |
| kozhukalov | will see | 16:31 |
| kozhukalov | dpyzhov_: ok, thanx | 16:32 |
| kozhukalov | btw there is work-in-progress version of python build script | 16:32 |
| kozhukalov | there are two patches | 16:32 |
| kozhukalov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167705 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169413 | 16:32 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, if there are no any q here, let's move on | 16:33 |
| warpc__ | kozhukalov: yes, i am going to fix it tomorrow if no new urgent bugs arise | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | warpc__: thanx for ack | 16:34 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Open discussion | 16:34 |
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| kozhukalov | actually i have a question | 16:35 |
| mattymo | I just want to point out I'm really happy with the IBP transition to working on Fuel master. It's been really stable and pleasant | 16:35 |
| mattymo | good job kozhukalov and agordeev | 16:35 |
| kozhukalov | mattymo: thanx, trying to do our best | 16:35 |
| bookwar | while everyone is here, can I ask for a merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169025/ | 16:35 |
| maximov | regarding external ubuntu. are we going to run somesort of CI to test fuel deployments against upstream ubuntu after 6.1 GA | 16:36 |
| maximov | ? | 16:36 |
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| bookwar | you mean fix the iso and just update the mirror? | 16:36 |
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| kozhukalov | maximov: we absolutely need this | 16:37 |
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| maximov | ok, who is in charge? @holser? | 16:37 |
| kozhukalov | our default settings assume we use upstream mirrors (which are on the Internet) | 16:37 |
| maximov | so they will be updated periodically | 16:38 |
| maximov | right? | 16:38 |
| bookwar | with external ubuntu we have a lot of variants we need to test on CI, we discussed it with Vitaliy Parakhin | 16:38 |
| bookwar | i plane to write a summary | 16:38 |
| kozhukalov | so, it is one of the major requirements that fuel is able to deploy cluster from online repos | 16:38 |
| barthalion | what happened to the proposed packages testing? | 16:38 |
| bookwar | s/plane/plan/ | 16:38 |
| maximov | ok, please keep me in the loop | 16:39 |
| bookwar | barthalion: pawel is working on it | 16:39 |
| bookwar | should be enabled at the end of this week i think | 16:39 |
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| bookwar | kozhukalov: we need to discuss the test plan, if it will be only bvt or half of the swarm or something else | 16:40 |
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| agordeev | also a q. https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1438913 in #2 comment was mentioned blueprint 'continue on minor failure'. Did just IBP lack of it? Will classic provioning continue to deploy a cluster if one of compute node failed to be provisioned? | 16:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1438913 in Fuel for OpenStack "Stuck on unmounting os-root on one of the nodes during deployment" [High,New] - Assigned to Fuel provisioning team (fuel-provisioning) | 16:40 |
| kozhukalov | ikalnitsky was supposed to prepare this test plan | 16:40 |
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| kozhukalov | agordeev: no, our current logic assumes all nodes need to be provisioned properly before starting deployment | 16:42 |
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| bookwar | kozhukalov: currently we agreed to run BVT and it is what we are implementing | 16:43 |
| kozhukalov | ok, guys i have a question about our weekly meeting format | 16:43 |
| bookwar | but i didn't see it formally written somewhere | 16:43 |
| kozhukalov | bookwar: we need to ask ikalnitsky | 16:44 |
| agordeev | kozhukalov: i knew about our current logic. I'm not sure do we have bug here. If classic will deploy succesfully without 1 compute node, we definately have a bug here. | 16:44 |
| kozhukalov | the q about meeting format is: what do you guys think about how we can improve this and make weekly irc more valued? | 16:44 |
| kozhukalov | afaik, clussic deployment is also gonna fail if one of the nodes was not provisioned | 16:46 |
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| kozhukalov | any opinions about weekly meeting? | 16:46 |
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| kozhukalov | do we need to start another discussion in ML? | 16:47 |
| kozhukalov | i mean for me it looks like people tend to avoid using this communication channel | 16:47 |
| kozhukalov | i'd like it to be the place where we can share status of what we are working on in different locations | 16:48 |
| barthalion | I think it's fine as is | 16:48 |
| barthalion | it's not like we always have something important to say | 16:49 |
| bookwar | kozhukalov: may be announcing agenda a bit earlier then the hour before the meeting could help | 16:49 |
| kozhukalov | i don't think so | 16:49 |
| angdraug | I don't think people avoid this meeting, they just don't put enough effort into preparing for it | 16:49 |
| kozhukalov | we usually have couple topics in agenda | 16:49 |
| kozhukalov | and those topics appears after annoying reminders | 16:49 |
| angdraug | reminders are useful and not annoying, please keep sending them | 16:50 |
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| kozhukalov | angdraug: ok, what can we do to make them interested in deeper preparation? | 16:50 |
| angdraug | volunteer team leads to present their team's activities and let them delegate specific topics to their developers | 16:51 |
| docaedo | To some extent I think the meeting doesn't have huge participation because we already cover much on the openstack mailing list when we need broader participation | 16:51 |
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| docaedo | (and that's a good thing) | 16:51 |
| prmtl | folks, I have one quick thing to add | 16:51 |
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| docaedo | I like angdraug's suggestion, that would be nice to get a weekly recap from team leads | 16:52 |
| angdraug | if we have a big discussion on openstack-dev, here is a good place to highlight that discussion | 16:52 |
| kozhukalov | angdraug: docaedo +1 | 16:52 |
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| prmtl | from some time we have "gate-*" jobs as a way to see if tests after merge do not fail | 16:53 |
| prmtl | for example https://fuel-jenkins.mirantis.com/job/gate-fuel-web/ | 16:53 |
| prmtl | I saw a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1439732 few minutes before | 16:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1439732 in Fuel for OpenStack "Add "puppet_log" cluster attribute to installation_info white list " [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Alexander Kislitsky (akislitsky) | 16:53 |
| prmtl | folks, please pay attention to the e-mails that you get from CI after your patch get merged and fail | 16:53 |
| prmtl | it's all for avoiding broken master | 16:53 |
| prmtl | I think that next step should be to report failed 'gate-*' jobs as a critical bugs automatically | 16:54 |
| kozhukalov | prmtl: we usually don't merge code which is -1 from CI | 16:55 |
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| prmtl | but I already saw two cases when gate-* was red and author of the change did nothing | 16:55 |
| bookwar | kozhukalov: it happens when you merge two patches with +1 but result fails th CI | 16:55 |
| kozhukalov | ok, about meeting, im going to write another letter about this and describe angdraug's suggestion and will see whether it'll help | 16:56 |
| kozhukalov | prmtl: thanx for brining this up | 16:57 |
| kozhukalov | if no q any more let's end | 16:57 |
| kozhukalov | thanx everyone for attending | 16:57 |
| kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 2 16:57:35 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-04-02-16.01.html | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-04-02-16.01.txt | 16:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-04-02-16.01.log.html | 16:57 |
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| bookwar | prmtl: i guess we should add at least devops team there, so we would start panicking in time | 16:57 |
| bookwar | and then, yes, create a bug | 16:58 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 2 17:00:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack security group)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | Hey everyone! | 17:00 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:00 |
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| elmiko | yo/ | 17:00 |
| ljfisher | o/ | 17:00 |
| singlethink | o/ | 17:00 |
| sicarie | Hello | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | Agenda and previous minutes over here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/OpenStackSecurity#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | Hey dg_ | 17:01 |
| dg_ | hey | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | Looks like I’m the only person who came here an hour early! | 17:01 |
| elmiko | =( | 17:02 |
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| tkelsey | i did too lol | 17:02 |
| dg_ | lol we all did, but chair6 pointed out we are silly | 17:02 |
| sicarie | I was definitely here | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | hehe | 17:02 |
| chair6 | <- not silly | 17:02 |
| ljfisher | me too, but I just wanted to be early :) | 17:02 |
| shelleea007 | o/ | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, I suppose we should get started, doesn’t look like we have nkinder | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | No Travis either. | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | So I guess we can talk about the OSSN Yaml stuff later if they roll up | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | sicarie: Want to talk about the security guide? | 17:04 |
| sicarie | Sure | 17:04 |
| tkelsey | Travis sends his apologies and asked me get an update on the Bandit gate tests in Keystone | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Security Guide | 17:04 |
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| sicarie | elmiko and pdesai are taking a look at the identity chapter | 17:04 |
| sicarie | we're still looking at the case studies making sure they're consistent (right now, they are not) | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | Great, probably time for an update and a tidy | 17:05 |
| sicarie | yes, the goal is to do another physical book release for Liberty | 17:05 |
| sicarie | So I think shelleea07 and nkinder were going to look at chapters as well | 17:05 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:05 |
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| sicarie | If anyone wants to take a look at the Dashboard chapter, that's one that needs a bit of work | 17:05 |
| shelleea007 | I'm looking at the dashboard chapter and network chapter | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah shelleea007 has an action to look at the network section | 17:06 |
| sicarie | So please, take a chapter, log a bug, or grab a bug | 17:06 |
| sicarie | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=sec-guide | 17:06 |
| sicarie | The etherpad for looking at case study consistency is in the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1349540 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1349540 in openstack-manuals "Ensure one case study per chapter in security guide" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to N Dillon (sicarie) | 17:07 |
| sicarie | And then I'm also trying to look at the Compute chapter (creating it) and that outline is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1412975 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1412975 in openstack-manuals "Security Guide - Compute Section" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to N Dillon (sicarie) | 17:07 |
| ljfisher | sicarie I'll have some more time to look at the case studies now | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Great work sicarie thank you! | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Anything else on the guide sicarie ? | 17:08 |
| sicarie | I don't think so | 17:09 |
| sicarie | Thanks ljfisher! | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | ok, next up | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Governance Stuff | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok, so some of you may have seen the announcement around the OSSG and VMT merging: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/060474.html | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | I think this is great news | 17:10 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | I followed that up today with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170172 - a request to make us recognised as an official OpenStack project | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | Here’s the mail to -dev which has had a couple of +1’s already. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/060510.html | 17:11 |
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| elmiko | nice | 17:11 |
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| hyakuhei | So we’ll see how that goes but it’s very much my hope that we become simply the security team within OpenStack | 17:12 |
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| elmiko | security team as a service? ;) | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | That’s the culmination of a fair bit of behind the scene work etc | 17:13 |
| chair6 | all driven by hyakuhei .. *round of applause* | 17:14 |
| ljfisher | good work, thanks | 17:14 |
| tkelsey | hip hip | 17:14 |
| * elmiko claps | 17:14 | |
| sicarie | +1 | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | We’ll have to change the way we do elections to be more inline with the proper way of doing things, we’ll also have to proably do this out of sync to catch up but as discussed previously I’ve put myself down as iterim PTL | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Any thoughts or comments on this change? | 17:15 |
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| elmiko | aside from elections, are there other responsibilities that will change? | 17:16 |
| dg_ | seems like a good step forwards. I particuarly like the idea of security.openstack as a source for all things security | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | So there’s a great deal of work to do with regards to rebranding, making sure documentation makes sense | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | ^ exactly dg_ I’m hoping we can really make use of that | 17:16 |
| dg_ | chair6 i think we're going to need a logo... | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | Heh. | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | ok, lets talk about OSSN for a few moments | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | #topic OSSN | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | There’s a number of OSSN in the queue right now | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn | 17:17 |
| sicarie | hyakuhei: how specific should I be that OSSN's match doc guidelines? | 17:18 |
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| hyakuhei | hyakuhei: Not. | 17:18 |
| sicarie | For example, 46 uses "etc" which is a doc no-no | 17:18 |
| sicarie | k | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | At least not today. OSSN are a lot more free form than everything else, however good language is encouraged, if you see things you don’t like, comment on the gerrit, we want the standards to be high | 17:19 |
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| sicarie | Nah, that's a nit I'm not a huge fan of, but enforce on the sec-guide | 17:19 |
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| hyakuhei | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169388/3/security-notes/OSSN-0046 | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | I’d appreciate more reviews on that. | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | Ang generally, if you can, please pick up an OSSN. | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | Good way to get yourself an ATC badge too. | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | tkelsey: want to talk about Bandit? | 17:21 |
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| tkelsey | yup yup | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Bandit | 17:22 |
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| tkelsey | so, Travis was asking about any update on the Keystone gate, anyone have any news? | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: ^ ? | 17:23 |
| tkelsey | I didnt see bknudson on the roll call, so maybe not | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | I guess not | 17:25 |
| tkelsey | thats a shame :( | 17:25 |
| tkelsey | oh well, next time then | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | Short meeting today even though lots of exciting stuff happening :) | 17:25 |
| tkelsey | heh yeah, seems so | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | Ok well I’ll guess we’ll roll smartly on to AOB | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Any Other Business | 17:26 |
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| tkelsey | OSSG + VMT == awesome, thats all I got :) its worth mentioning again | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | :D Cheers | 17:27 |
| elmiko | hehe, +1 | 17:27 |
| sicarie | anything summit related? | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | We’ll I guess we’ll wrap up early! Cheers guys! | 17:28 |
| dg_ | l8z | 17:28 |
| tkelsey | sicarie: good point, anyone got summit stuff ? | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Oh yeah, I knew there was something else :) | 17:28 |
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| hyakuhei | Please take a look at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-security-summit-ideas and add content. | 17:29 |
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| hyakuhei | That’s for things to discuss at the summit if we manage to get some dedicated time/space | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | Other than that I think we’re done :) | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:31 | |
| hyakuhei | Thanks all | 17:31 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 2 17:31:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-04-02-17.00.html | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-04-02-17.00.txt | 17:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-04-02-17.00.log.html | 17:31 |
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| alazarev | hey sahara guys! | 18:01 |
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| elmiko | hi | 18:01 |
| NikitaKonovalov | o/ | 18:01 |
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| vgridnev_ | hi | 18:01 |
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| alazarev | #startmeeting sahara | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 2 18:01:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alazarev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:01 |
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| alazarev | ErikB, NikitaKonovalov, RobLevas, SergeyLukjanov, aignatov, alazarev, bob_nettleton, crobertsrh, dmitryme, elmiko, jspeidel, mattf, skostiuchenko, sreshetnyak, tellesnobrega, themistymay, tmckay, tosky, ylobankov, meeting time! | 18:01 |
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| huichun | hello, just enter the wrong room---meeting-3 | 18:02 |
| alazarev | #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov) | 18:02 |
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| elmiko | alazarev: crobertsrh is out today | 18:02 |
| alazarev | Nikita ? | 18:02 |
| NikitaKonovalov | ok, it looks like we are not getting event logs in kile | 18:02 |
| NikitaKonovalov | kilo* | 18:02 |
| alazarev | NikitaKonovalov, not good, why? | 18:03 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | alazarev: it's due to the FF | 18:03 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | ant still there is a dependency on a client change | 18:03 |
| NikitaKonovalov | we have it in master | 18:04 |
| alazarev | from my side: indirect access support was merged | 18:04 |
| NikitaKonovalov | but it should be released with a tag first | 18:04 |
| alazarev | I mean merged to horizon | 18:04 |
| NikitaKonovalov | then get into global reqiurements and then to horizon | 18:04 |
| NikitaKonovalov | too long to be in kilo | 18:04 |
| alazarev | NikitaKonovalov, I see | 18:04 |
| alazarev | #topic News / updates | 18:04 |
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| tosky | waiting for feedback (and +2!) on the patchset which moves tempest CLI tests into python-saharaclient | 18:05 |
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| elmiko | i've mainly been working on reviews and documentation, a little bit on config hints | 18:05 |
| vgridnev_ | api docs finished, work with sahara docs | 18:05 |
| Nikolay_St | yeah | 18:05 |
| Nikolay_St | vgridnev_ is right | 18:05 |
| alazarev | I'm working on internal task, no much visible activity | 18:05 |
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| alazarev | tried MapR, filed a list of bugs | 18:06 |
| huichun | working on scheduled edp job | 18:06 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | alazarev: a bit back to horizon. This bug was introduced https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1439155 after merging the proxy_gateway change. I've done a change to fix that | 18:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1439155 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Wrong argument order in Sahara client call" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Nikita Konovalov (nkonovalov) | 18:06 |
| tmckay | hi folks | 18:06 |
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| alazarev | NikitaKonovalov, oh, merge hell | 18:07 |
| NikitaKonovalov | the change makes that code merge-hell-proof | 18:08 |
| NikitaKonovalov | for the future | 18:08 |
| elmiko | nice | 18:08 |
| alazarev | NikitaKonovalov, we need some kind of helper here, it is too boring to change 6 places after each new field | 18:08 |
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| elmiko | lol | 18:08 |
| * tmckay read eavesdrop | 18:08 | |
| huichun | hi guys, so do we still use https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon for adding these horizon patch in Kilo | 18:08 |
| tmckay | so we' | 18:08 |
| NikitaKonovalov | alazarev: I know, but it's not a trivial thing to do | 18:09 |
| tmckay | we're in updates. My updated -- I workflowed all the def template stuff | 18:09 |
| tmckay | I wanted Sergey to do it but he's not around :) | 18:09 |
| Nikolay_St | working on the docs for the whole week | 18:09 |
| alazarev | #topic Open discussion | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:10 | |
| tmckay | also, folks, the job types endpoint change for python-saharaclient is +2'd but not approved. Should we approve it? job types was an exception. | 18:10 |
| pino|work | working on various improvements here and there to elements | 18:10 |
| tmckay | But, Sergey has an etherpad up about the client | 18:10 |
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| elmiko | re: docs, i'm going to be looking at the features doc to see if some of the information in there can be migrated to the configuration and advanced configuration pages. | 18:10 |
| tmckay | so, not sure if we should wait or not | 18:10 |
| Nikolay_St | ok, as we at the open discussion I have news from yesterday's LogWorkingGroup meeting | 18:11 |
| elmiko | tmckay: do you have a link for that review? | 18:11 |
| alazarev | it is easier to wait Sergey | 18:11 |
| Nikolay_St | here is too links to dev-mail list | 18:11 |
| tmckay | oh, holiday for me tomorrow (and elmiko, egafford, mattf, etc) | 18:11 |
| tmckay | elmiko, yes, hold on | 18:11 |
| Nikolay_St | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/060299.html | 18:11 |
| Nikolay_St | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/060361.html | 18:12 |
| tmckay | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161448/ | 18:12 |
| Nikolay_St | so, they plan to add some automatic hacking checks for log spec | 18:12 |
| elmiko | tmckay: yea, probably best to wait | 18:12 |
| tmckay | okay | 18:12 |
| elmiko | Nikolay_St: interesting... | 18:12 |
| Nikolay_St | I think we're interested in it, and I'm ready to do it during next week | 18:12 |
| Nikolay_St | or two. | 18:13 |
| Nikolay_St | depends on the work with docs and other stuff like bugfixes | 18:13 |
| elmiko | Nikolay_St: +1 | 18:13 |
| tmckay | oh, I am looking over the EDP docs, I have several corrections to make so far | 18:13 |
| Nikolay_St | the other topic I want to talk about is attending LWG topics on summit | 18:14 |
| vgridnev_ | SergeyLukjanov asked to mention two things: April 16 - initial design summit topics discussion, April 23 - finalise design summit schedule | 18:14 |
| tmckay | mostly omissions, given current stuff, not so much "wrong" | 18:14 |
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| Nikolay_St | I'm not going there, so I need a volunteer to attend it if any | 18:14 |
| tmckay | Nikolay_St, this is the logging stuff? | 18:14 |
| elmiko | i'll be there, but already attening sahara, ossg, and api-wg stuff | 18:14 |
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| Nikolay_St | tmckay: right | 18:15 |
| tmckay | Nikolay_St, I'm sure we can find some people from our group. Maybe me. Do you have particular questions or comments you want to bring up? | 18:15 |
| huichun | tmckay: i am working on the scheduled edp job ,so this would be written as a bp/spec for liberty, so i can only working on this locally? | 18:16 |
| tmckay | huichun, no, go ahead and submit patches if you like. We won't approve them, so no worries. They won't merge | 18:16 |
| Nikolay_St | tmckay: nope. they're not very fast. so they'll plan a discussion like "what should be done to make our logs better" | 18:16 |
| huichun | tmckay: roger | 18:17 |
| Nikolay_St | tmckay: IIRC it planned to be discussed on the next meeting | 18:17 |
| tmckay | Nikolay_St, okay. I wonder if you'll be awake during the session? Maybe I can skype it, and put a microphone next to the PC? :) | 18:18 |
| tmckay | Nikolay_St, do you mean the actual topics at Summit, or meetings to determine what the topics at Summit will be? | 18:18 |
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| Nikolay_St | tmckay: sounds good :) I don't need much time to sleep, so I think I can :D | 18:18 |
| Nikolay_St | tmckay: let me check | 18:19 |
| elmiko | nice, teamwork! | 18:19 |
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| alazarev | do we have anything more to discuss? | 18:20 |
| tmckay | Nikokay_St, okay, reading back, I think I understand. To restate, you would like someone from Sahara to go to LWG meetings in Vancouver | 18:20 |
| tmckay | if I can skype the meeting, great ;-) | 18:20 |
| tmckay | I would be happy to go | 18:20 |
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| Nikolay_St | tmckay: yeah, right | 18:21 |
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| Nikolay_St | tmckay: they plan 1 dev and 1 or 2 ops tracks. I'm interested in dev of course. | 18:22 |
| tmckay | ok | 18:22 |
| Nikolay_St | tmckay: however I'll discuss with SergeyLukjanov as soon as he will be available to chat | 18:22 |
| tmckay | logs would be good. We talked about maybe having a way to harvest job logs from the nodes back into the Sahara controller, maybe related | 18:23 |
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| elmiko | we need the OpenStack Logging service ;) | 18:23 |
| tmckay | elmiko, it has to have a cool name | 18:23 |
| Nikolay_St | elmiko: yeap, smthg like that | 18:23 |
| tmckay | that's always the roadblock | 18:24 |
| tmckay | like "Memo" | 18:24 |
| elmiko | Clippy | 18:24 |
| Nikolay_St | also, yesterday they start to discuss a new way of tracking errors | 18:24 |
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| huichun | Clippy | 18:24 |
| Nikolay_St | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167793/ | 18:24 |
| elmiko | Nikolay_St: does that have anything to do with the error guidelines that the api-wg are proposing? | 18:25 |
| tmckay | how about the name of an ancient Greek scribe? | 18:25 |
| elmiko | herodotus? | 18:25 |
| Nikolay_St | elmiko: yeah | 18:25 |
| pino|work | Clippy! | 18:25 |
| tmckay | +1 | 18:25 |
| Nikolay_St | but this guys is not to fast, as I said before | 18:25 |
| elmiko | yea, it's going to be a slow process to get that approved | 18:25 |
| Nikolay_St | so I think will need to wait a week or 2 before they will have something special :D | 18:25 |
| Nikolay_St | that's all from my side :) | 18:27 |
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| tmckay | nothing more from me | 18:28 |
| alazarev | ok, so I looks we are done | 18:28 |
| tosky | (shameless repeated request for review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167267/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167642/ (the latter has the result for check-saharaclient-dsvm-functional - http://logs.openstack.org/42/167642/2/experimental/check-saharaclient-dsvm-functional/5a8c682/) ) | 18:28 |
| alazarev | thanks averyone | 18:28 |
| alazarev | #endmeeting | 18:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 2 18:28:41 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-04-02-18.01.html | 18:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-04-02-18.01.txt | 18:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-04-02-18.01.log.html | 18:28 |
| elmiko | thanks alazarev ! | 18:28 |
| Nikolay_St | bye, guys! | 18:29 |
| huichun | 谢谢 | 18:29 |
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