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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 30 15:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
| ganso__ | hello | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello | 15:00 |
| Zhongjun | hi | 15:00 |
| zongliang | Hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
| xyang1 | Hi | 15:00 |
| gary-smith | hi | 15:00 |
| u_glide | hello | 15:00 |
| weiting | Hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | welcome markstur and toabctl to core reviewer team | 15:01 |
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| lpabon | hi | 15:01 |
| csaba1 | hi | 15:01 |
| cknight | congrats, guys! | 15:01 |
| bswartz | thanks for all your help with reviews during kilo | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | #topic Liberty design summit planning | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty design summit planning (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
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| bswartz | so kilo is releasing today | 15:02 |
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| markstur | hi | 15:02 |
| zongliang | good | 15:02 |
| bswartz | we didn't have any last minute bugs, other than the glusterfs/multibackend bug which we decided to postpone until liberty | 15:03 |
| bswartz | now we can turn our focus completely to liberty | 15:03 |
| ganso__ | we found a Share DB bug... I do not know the impact besides share_migration | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-liberty-proposed-sessions | 15:03 |
| ganso__ | either way it does not look like something difficult to work around | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | ganso__: you mean 'export_location' one? | 15:04 |
| bswartz | ganso__: please file it in LP, and if you think it's worth of a backport please tag it with kilo-backport-potential | 15:04 |
| ganso__ | vponomaryov: yes | 15:04 |
| bswartz | worthy* | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | no, it does not worth backport | 15:04 |
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| ganso__ | I have not filed because it only affects me at this moment, and share_migration is for liberty | 15:04 |
| u_glide | vponomaryov: +1 | 15:04 |
| bswartz | ok | 15:04 |
| bswartz | the comment about taking for backport applies to everyone -- if you find a bug in liberty that should also be fixed in kilo, "kilo-backport-potential" is the tag to use | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | s/taking/tagging/ | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | so I finally added my design summit proposal ideas to the etherpad | 15:06 |
| bswartz | since I can't attend in person, I'll be looking for other people to do the proposals/presentations on my behalf | 15:06 |
| bswartz | today we're going to go through this list and make sure we have names next to all of the topics and we'll gauge interest so I can figure out how to schedule all the topics | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | starting at the top | 15:07 |
| bswartz | Relationship between shares and snapshots [2] (lpabon) | 15:07 |
| lpabon | yep | 15:07 |
| bswartz | can you explain this proposal? | 15:07 |
| lpabon | now, or on the pad? | 15:07 |
| bswartz | ideally both | 15:07 |
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| lpabon | sure, what i would like to discuss is what are the responsabilites between the API and drivers | 15:08 |
| bswartz | so everyone know that currently snapshots are associated with shares, and you can't delete a share which still has snapshots | 15:08 |
| lpabon | The name of in the pad comes from a review which makes descision on snapshots at the API level. | 15:08 |
| bswartz | (I hope everyone knows that) | 15:09 |
| bswartz | do you propose to change that fact? | 15:09 |
| lpabon | So, my discussion is to use that as a starting point but mainly to discuss what are the responsabilities of the API and the drivers | 15:09 |
| xyang2 | I believe this is about whether to delete volume when there are still snapshots? | 15:09 |
| bswartz | s/volume/share/ | 15:09 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: thanks:) | 15:10 |
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| lpabon | if the API decides to take some action, it could cause some drivers to not be able to use their "special" technology | 15:10 |
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| lpabon | that's the heart of the discussion | 15:10 |
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| markstur | if you want the discussion to be that general probably should have a different topic proposed | 15:10 |
| lpabon | that's it | 15:10 |
| lpabon | I could change the topic title | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | lpabon: yeah please describe on the etherpad what you said | 15:11 |
| lpabon | np | 15:11 |
| bswartz | and also did you intend this as a fishbowl topic or a working session topic? | 15:11 |
| lpabon | its really up to you guys.. what do you guys suggest? | 15:12 |
| bswartz | my gut feeling is that this might take less than a whole session | 15:12 |
| bswartz | so it's a candidate for combining | 15:12 |
| lpabon | I'm ok with either | 15:12 |
| bswartz | but if there is high interest, we can dedicate a session | 15:12 |
| cknight | bswartz: +1, combine this one withe something else | 15:12 |
| bswartz | we'll gather feedback on interest level later | 15:13 |
| bswartz | next topic | 15:13 |
| bswartz | Share Migration [5]Â ( https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/share-migration ) (ganso) | 15:13 |
| bswartz | I made another proposal lower down called "Manila data copying service" which is related | 15:14 |
| bswartz | this topic was also discussed at the midcycle | 15:14 |
| bswartz | ganso__ should be present to propose this, and I'll work with him before the summit to incorporate the 2 ideas | 15:15 |
| ganso__ | regarding Share migration, I proposed fishbowl because the prototype is 80% coded at this moment, as far as I know working sessions are for coding, I have more stuff to present than to code, so I was thinking about a presentation/discussion/quick live-review, gather suggestions and improvements | 15:15 |
| bswartz | is it clear what the proposal is? | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | ganso__: working sessions aren't literally for writing code -- but they're more intimate and we might present/examine the code itself | 15:16 |
| ganso__ | I don't there is that much code for a working session | 15:16 |
| ganso__ | but it can be a working session, no problem | 15:17 |
| bswartz | I can see this one as a fishbowl session -- it's a major new feature | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | okay next topic | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | Manage/unmanage snapshot (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manage-unmanage-snapshot) (xyang) | 15:18 |
| xyang2 | we already have manage/unmanage share | 15:18 |
| xyang2 | so it is the natural next step to introduce this for snapshots | 15:18 |
| bswartz | xyang2: you're going to present? | 15:18 |
| xyang2 | yes | 15:19 |
| bswartz | xyang2: is there a corresponding proposal for cinder? | 15:19 |
| xyang2 | yes | 15:19 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:19 |
| xyang2 | code is being reviewed. almost ready. missed kilo | 15:19 |
| bswartz | the unmanaging makes sense to me -- you have a plan for managing too? | 15:19 |
| xyang2 | yes | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | xyang2: reviewed internally? | 15:20 |
| bswartz | snapshots would need to be associated with a share somehow | 15:20 |
| xyang2 | vponomaryov: I mean the cinder patch | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | xyang2: ah, ok | 15:20 |
| xyang2 | the cinder patch for manage/unmanage snapshot is there being reviewed | 15:20 |
| bswartz | unless lpabon finds a way to help us break that association | 15:20 |
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| xyang2 | bswartz: yes, the share has to be there first | 15:20 |
| bswartz | ok | 15:21 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: we'll be looking at Cinder's implementation | 15:21 |
| bswartz | fishbowl session? you think you need the full 40 minutes? | 15:21 |
| lpabon | xyang2: that sounds like a good idea | 15:21 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: I don't think I need 40 minutes, can combine with something else | 15:21 |
| bswartz | Oh I see | 15:21 |
| xyang2 | it is relatively straight forward | 15:22 |
| bswartz | yes it makes sense -- the share-to-snapshot relationship in manila has to mirror was actually exists on the backend in any case | 15:22 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:22 |
| bswartz | Manila support Qos (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manila-support-qos) (zhongjun) | 15:23 |
| Zhongjun | I hope Manila support Qos in L. | 15:23 |
| bswartz | Zhongjun: are you going to present this in vancouver? | 15:23 |
| zongliang | Me two | 15:23 |
| Zhongjun | sorry, I can't attend in vancouver. | 15:24 |
| bswartz | Zhongjun: is there someone from Huawei who can present on your behalf? | 15:24 |
| bswartz | I think QoS is an important topic, but for it to be a design summit topic someone needs to take it up and drive the session | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | we can look for volunteers if needed -- and it doesn't have to be right now -- but we'll need to get someone to sign up soon | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | Zhongjun: I see there is a BP with some details | 15:26 |
| bswartz | any functional spec or additional docs? | 15:26 |
| li_zhang | This time there will be only some marketing guys from huawei to attend th summit.../ | 15:26 |
| zongliang | May be we can discuss in the meeting and design it use the witeboard | 15:27 |
| Zhongjun | OK, I try to looking for a volunteers. | 15:27 |
| bswartz | I'll look as well | 15:27 |
| bswartz | I know many people want to see QoS support happen | 15:27 |
| li_zhang | yes | 15:27 |
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| bswartz | also it doesn't have to be discussed at the design summit for it to get done -- if the BP is good and the code is good we can still review it and merge it | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | but something like a major new feature should be discussed in a large forum like the summit if possible | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | I'll skip my data copying service -- and try to get ganso to work it into his proposal | 15:29 |
| bswartz | Data replication (cknight) | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | cknight: did you want to present this? | 15:30 |
| cknight | bswartz: It's a big topic, but I'm good to present it. | 15:30 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:30 |
| bswartz | some of you may be aware that this has been a long running topic in cinder, with not such a good history | 15:30 |
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| xyang2 | there are major rework going on with replication in cinder. I think it is a good idea to look at the result of the WIP replication v2 in cinder | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | I hope we can avoid the same fate by getting the design nailed down and getting everyone to agree early in the release | 15:31 |
| cknight | bswartz: replication potentially dovetails with mount automation | 15:31 |
| markstur | xyang2, Will there be a Cinder working session dedicated to repl | 15:31 |
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| xyang2 | markstur: yes | 15:32 |
| bswartz | xyang2: I agree, as long as the cinder proposal is less controversial this time around | 15:32 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: :) | 15:32 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: + CG | 15:32 |
| bswartz | somehow we always hope that cinder replication will work, but then during the design discussions a bunch of problems pop up | 15:32 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: have you looked at the WIP cinder spec for v2? | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | xyang2: I did some time ago -- I haven't been following it closely | 15:34 |
| bswartz | that's something we should do before making the proposal for manila DR | 15:34 |
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| xyang2 | bswartz: I hope we can settle down at the summit | 15:34 |
| bswartz | to see if any good ideas can be stolen, or if we forgot anything important | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | Manila DR will necessarily have a different flavor than Cinder DR, but the core idea is the same | 15:35 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: sure | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:35 |
| bswartz | mount automation (me) | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I added this, but I won't be presenting it | 15:36 |
| bswartz | we still have too many ideas and not enough focus in this area | 15:36 |
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| bswartz | so we're actively working on narrowing it down to something concrete and achievable | 15:36 |
| bswartz | this topic can't be left out though, given how much interest there has been in past summits | 15:37 |
| bswartz | sage: you added a note about mount automation | 15:37 |
| bswartz | +1 for a nova API (attach-filesystem, detach-filesystem). this would require a nova agent (e.g., qemu-guest-agent) to do some work. other drivers (e.g., lxc or nova-docker) could mount on the host and do a simple bind mount into the container namespace. <sage> | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | did you have a proposal to make, or just supporting that approach? | 15:38 |
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| sage | supporting that approach. no code at this point | 15:38 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:38 |
| bswartz | the nova API approach has come up in the past -- at the midcycle in fact | 15:39 |
| sage | haomai has worked on a prototype that overloads the existing attach-volume with a 'type' field, but my guess is that a set of calls would be better received | 15:39 |
| sage | ? | 15:39 |
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| bswartz | dalgaaf wanted to use virtfs to attach filesystems to guests, and we agreed that a nova API would be the right way to do that | 15:39 |
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| bswartz | an extension to nova, rather, with a new API | 15:40 |
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| sage | yeah. my hope ist hat the api could do a virtfs attach, or nfs reexport from host, or a bind mount if it is a container (not vm) | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | yeah containers add a whole new dimension to the mounting/attaching problem | 15:40 |
| lpabon | the only difference would be that the API would need to be applied to N diff VMs, while volumes today are only attached to a single VM | 15:41 |
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| bswartz | lpabon: yes | 15:41 |
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| bswartz | okay next topic | 15:41 |
| bswartz | Service Image (lpabon-- I think I wrote this one..) | 15:41 |
| sage | yeah. the part i'm struggling with is the final "mount" step. with a container it bind mounts it into the namespace, bu tin most other cases we aren't (currently) using an agent to do the mount -t whatever. | 15:41 |
| lpabon | sage: yeah, difficult | 15:42 |
| lpabon | bswartz: yeah I wrote that one | 15:42 |
| bswartz | lpabon: I'm guessing from your comment that you're not presenting this? | 15:42 |
| lpabon | bswartz: It is really a discussion. | 15:42 |
| bswartz | do you have a proposal? or just want us to talk about it | 15:42 |
| bswartz | this one feels more working session appropriate to me | 15:42 |
| sage | best idea i've come up with is to bind mount to /dev/manila/foo (or something "dev-like") so that the admin/user would still do a final mount (in this case, another mount --bind inside the container) | 15:42 |
| lpabon | I would like to discuss how do we standardize on what a service vm is | 15:42 |
| sage | would love to discuss this in a working session in vancouver :) | 15:43 |
| bswartz | sage: it's likely to be a session | 15:43 |
| lpabon | My main concern is around service vm management and upgrades | 15:43 |
| bswartz | at the end of this meeting I'm going to ask everyone to register their interest on the etherpad | 15:43 |
| lpabon | I do have some suggestions, but I would like to discuss it with the group | 15:43 |
| bswartz | lpabon: so maybe you can guide the discussion? | 15:43 |
| sage | i'm not likely to write any code here, but i'm happy to talk about it | 15:43 |
| lpabon | bswartz: sure | 15:44 |
| bswartz | csaba was involved with the service image discussion in paris | 15:44 |
| bswartz | csaba will you also make vancouver? | 15:44 |
| bswartz | Thin provisioning/oversubscription (bswartz) | 15:44 |
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| xyang2 | bswartz: I can talk about this one if you want | 15:45 |
| csaba1 | bswartz: I won't be there :( | 15:45 |
| bswartz | so this is another idea from cinder -- xyang I didn't know if you had any interest in carying that work over to manila | 15:45 |
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| xyang2 | bswartz: yes, I do have interest | 15:45 |
| bswartz | it's not a high priority for me, given the other topics, but I wanted to throw it out there in case others had strong feelings | 15:45 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:46 |
| bswartz | Share retype (bswartz) | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | this is another feature from cinder, which would rely on the migration feature | 15:47 |
| bswartz | ganso: don't know if you want to include this one | 15:47 |
| bswartz | it's pretty valuable though for tenants to be able to change the type of their shares | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | and given that migrations are typically administrator-initiated, retyping is one of the few cases when a migration would be triggered by a tenant action | 15:48 |
| bswartz | this discussion could also wait until after we have migration nailed down | 15:48 |
| ganso__ | Migration is a pre-requisite for re-type | 15:48 |
| bswartz | okay I'll run through the proposed working sessions fast because we're short on time | 15:49 |
| ganso__ | I have taken a look at it, but it is quite big | 15:49 |
| ganso__ | I have given up including it in the prototype | 15:49 |
| bswartz | ipv6 support is just a maintenance/testing thing | 15:49 |
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| ganso__ | in the Share_migration prototype | 15:49 |
| bswartz | someone needs to drive it though | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | API versioning (extensions, microversions, etc.) (cknight) | 15:49 |
| bswartz | we've discussed this and we need to decide on a strategy or continue to deal with the mess we have | 15:50 |
| bswartz | not a sexy topic, but necessary | 15:50 |
| bswartz | Fault indications (cknight) | 15:50 |
| cknight | bswartz: faults is really Alex's thing | 15:50 |
| bswartz | I think ameade is proposing fault indications in cinder | 15:50 |
| cknight | bswartz: +1, let's watch that space | 15:51 |
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| bswartz | we might want to let the cinder team work out this topic | 15:51 |
| bswartz | Versioned objects (weiting <weiting.chen@intel.com>) | 15:51 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: are working sessions supposedly include only developers while fishbowl will have users in addition to developers? | 15:51 |
| weiting | Hi | 15:51 |
| weiting | I will go to vancouver and give a present for this topic | 15:51 |
| ameade | bswartz: just proposed it for cross project | 15:52 |
| bswartz | xyang2: working session is just a smaller space with a table instead of a circle of chairs | 15:52 |
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| bswartz | weiting: awesome! | 15:52 |
| weiting | The main contributor would be Li Chen. | 15:52 |
| bswartz | weiting: and your proposed application is rolling upgrade, correct? | 15:52 |
| weiting | Currently we are working on the same topic for Sahara | 15:52 |
| bswartz | lastly, 3rd-party CI is listed as a topic | 15:53 |
| weiting | And we are discussing with another contributor who is writing the versioned object architecture for Heat. | 15:53 |
| u_glide | weiting: Do you plan to cover NoSQL db support ? | 15:53 |
| bswartz | I'm not sure this needs design summit time -- I think we can manage this one on the ML and through the regular meetings | 15:53 |
| xyang2 | weiting: versioned object is in cinder too | 15:54 |
| weiting | Actually this implementation is still not clear | 15:54 |
| bswartz | however HP has volunteered to talk about it, so if there is interest we could do a session on it | 15:54 |
| weiting | That is why we need to discuss it | 15:54 |
| markstur | folks could also just go watch a session about it | 15:54 |
| markstur | I was just thinking we might all discuss it together | 15:54 |
| bswartz | so in our last 5 minutes, I'd like everyone to open the etherpad and put +1s next to the topics that you personally want to see discussed | 15:55 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-liberty-proposed-sessions | 15:55 |
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| weiting | It's welcome to add all the question in etherpad for versioned objects | 15:55 |
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| bswartz | please don't put +1 next to everything, just the top things you want to see | 15:56 |
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| bswartz | errr, I just realized I skipped Consistency groups | 15:56 |
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| bswartz | that's another fishbowl topic proposal | 15:56 |
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| xyang2 | bswartz: that can go with replication | 15:57 |
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| bswartz | yeah assuming we don't have enough space for all the sessions I'm going to work on squeezing them together over the next week, and making sure we have commitments from presenters | 15:57 |
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| markstur | +1 for all of them | 15:58 |
| bswartz | also remember that you're voting for the feature to be discussed, not for the feature to go into manila | 15:58 |
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| markstur | We should have a list of things that we'll talk about _if_ we have time | 15:58 |
| bswartz | some things are non-controversial and we can just work on them without spending time at the design summit | 15:58 |
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| markstur | but that makes it tough to have someone prepared to maybe lead -- unless it is wing-it-able | 15:59 |
| bswartz | markstur -- we'll have a backup agenda for sure | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | in case sessions end early and people want to dive into another topic -- that happens from time to time | 15:59 |
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| markstur | mount automation is trending again | 15:59 |
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| xyang2 | bswartz: replication and cg are guaranteed to be very controversial:) | 16:00 |
| * bswartz is unsurprised | 16:00 | |
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| bswartz | xyang2: I hope not! | 16:00 |
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| xyang2 | bswartz: look at how many comments are left in replication v2 spec:) | 16:00 |
| bswartz | if the proposal is good, then everyone will love it, right? | 16:00 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: I still have a ton that I like to bring up | 16:01 |
| bswartz | okay | 16:01 |
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| bswartz | we're past time | 16:01 |
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| bswartz | please vote in the etherpad if you haven't, and make sure you have a name in etherpad so we can track who voted (no ballot box stuffing!) | 16:01 |
| bswartz | thanks all | 16:01 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 30 16:01:50 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| markstur | FYI -- the 'manila-ui' is official | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-04-30-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-04-30-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-04-30-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 30 16:02:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | hey guys | 16:02 |
| mkwiek | hello | 16:02 |
| docaedo | hello | 16:02 |
| kaliya | hi | 16:02 |
| prmtl | hi | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | who is here? | 16:02 |
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| akislitsky | hi | 16:02 |
| daniel3_ | hello | 16:02 |
| xarses | hi | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | hi | 16:02 |
| angdraug | o/ | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | ok, looks like we can start | 16:02 |
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| kozhukalov | agenda as usual | 16:03 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:03 |
| kozhukalov | #topic is Broken master | 16:03 |
| zongliang | Ihi | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "is Broken master (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:03 | |
| kozhukalov | the reason is https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1403088 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1403088 in Fuel for OpenStack 6.1.x "CentOS repository contains ruby conflicts - unable to run yum update plainly" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Artem Silenkov (asilenkov) | 16:04 |
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| kozhukalov | and we are waiting for OSCI team fixes this | 16:04 |
| mihgen | why didn't we revert it? | 16:04 |
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| kozhukalov | anyone from OSCI around? | 16:04 |
| kozhukalov | looks like no one | 16:05 |
| angdraug | rvyalov: ^ | 16:05 |
| angdraug | latest update from Artem is that the 6.1 ISO that's currently building has the necessary fixes | 16:05 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen: I don't know why we didn't revert this | 16:05 |
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| kozhukalov | as far as i know it is broken since yesterday | 16:06 |
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| dburmistrov | asilenkov: <mihgen> why didn't we revert it? | 16:06 |
| kozhukalov | angdraug: great, hope it gonna become grean | 16:06 |
| angdraug | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1403088/comments/29 | 16:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1403088 in Fuel for OpenStack 6.1.x "CentOS repository contains ruby conflicts - unable to run yum update plainly" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Artem Silenkov (asilenkov) | 16:06 |
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| angdraug | status report as of yesterday | 16:06 |
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| asilenkov | we can't revert this because ruby packets is not under version control system | 16:07 |
| kozhukalov | angdraug: thanks for this link | 16:07 |
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| kozhukalov | asilenkov: thanks for fix | 16:07 |
| asilenkov | not yet we need iso built first | 16:08 |
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| asilenkov | let me explain a little | 16:08 |
| angdraug | asilenkov: please make sure that the new ISO fixes it, if there's a new problem found with it we need to know about it and fix it today | 16:08 |
| asilenkov | 1. ruby version and name is hardcoded inside ISO make system | 16:08 |
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| asilenkov | yes sure. I'm working hard on it | 16:08 |
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| asilenkov | 2. We have a bunch of gems which are named in bad manner | 16:09 |
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| asilenkov | Eg' | 16:09 |
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| mihgen | :( | 16:09 |
| mihgen | I hope we will fix it finally in the right way | 16:10 |
| asilenkov | ruby21-nailgun-mcagents is the same as nailgun-mcagents | 16:10 |
| asilenkov | and nailgun-mcagents wanted ruby=1.8 | 16:10 |
| asilenkov | some gems were not accidentaly renamed though | 16:10 |
| asilenkov | some gems has no ruby nailed and take one available | 16:11 |
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| asilenkov | so we had to recompiled all the gems to overcome this | 16:11 |
| asilenkov | ti ensure we have right ruby with right gems | 16:11 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, looks like the situation is under control | 16:12 |
| kozhukalov | if there are no other comments on this, let's move on | 16:12 |
| asilenkov | ISO build system is not aware about ruby so we had to hack hardcoded values in bootstrap and sandbox | 16:12 |
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| asilenkov | yes 5.1.2 fixed 6,1 is on the way. It builds locally but not sure about BVT. I'll take care of it untill all problems are resolved. Will report by email and slack. TY | 16:13 |
| kozhukalov | yes and these hard coded versions were introduced because we had some problems with ruby versions earlier | 16:13 |
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| kozhukalov | asilenkov: thanks a lot for your efforts | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Recent activities in fuel-python | 16:14 |
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| kozhukalov | actually i have nothing to say here | 16:14 |
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| kozhukalov | all known activities are listed in agenda | 16:15 |
| kozhukalov | please skim through the list and ask questions | 16:15 |
| kozhukalov | cleaning up environment after building image is in progress | 16:16 |
| kozhukalov | the issue here is that we need to take care of those loop devices and other temporary files if build fails | 16:16 |
| angdraug | should we discuss apt vs ipv6? | 16:16 |
| kozhukalov | yes, I'd like to discuss this | 16:17 |
| angdraug | looking at agenda seems like there's a disagreement on this topic | 16:17 |
| kozhukalov | my opinion is clear, Im for forcing apt to use v4 | 16:17 |
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| kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175848/ | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | everyone agree with v4 | 16:18 |
| xarses | I don't understand why this is necessary | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | except one guys who is an expert in networks | 16:18 |
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| kozhukalov | xarses: because canonical dns responses with v4 and v6 addresses | 16:19 |
| kozhukalov | and apt tries to use v6 | 16:19 |
| kozhukalov | and obviously fails | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | because neither we nor most our customers don't support v6 | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | because neither we nor most our customers support v6 | 16:20 |
| xarses | so you intend to kick the problem down the road | 16:20 |
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| kozhukalov | and thus puppet can not fetch packages | 16:20 |
| xarses | instead of fixing the problem? | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | xarses: what is your suggestion how we can fix this? | 16:21 |
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| xarses | and we are actively interested in supporting IPv6 | 16:21 |
| kozhukalov | force people to start supporting v6? | 16:21 |
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| xarses | by the sound of the issue, it should only use the v6 address when the v4 fails | 16:22 |
| kozhukalov | we can support but we can not force other people to support | 16:22 |
| xarses | did we identify why the v4 fails when both are supported, but works when v6 is disabled? | 16:22 |
| kozhukalov | v6 fails | 16:22 |
| kozhukalov | not v4 | 16:22 |
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| xarses | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1446227/comments/12 | 16:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1442672 in Fuel for OpenStack "duplicate for #1446227 All lnx providers for L2 resources of L23network can't work without installing ovs" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Sergey Vasilenko (xenolog) | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | ok, i see your point but i don't have any particular recipe | 16:23 |
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| xarses | so this fixes a high/ critical bug, but we still have a problem in that we blacklisted v6 in the process | 16:24 |
| xarses | we need to create a bug for 7.0 to learn why this occurred all the sudden, and implement a proper fix | 16:24 |
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| kozhukalov | but switching to v4 solves the problem as far as i know, so this comment might be not totally true | 16:25 |
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| kozhukalov | xarses: will you? | 16:25 |
| xarses | yes, I will create a bug for 7 | 16:26 |
| angdraug | based on what xarses said above, switching to v4 masks the problem, while we still don't know the root cause | 16:26 |
| kozhukalov | #action xarses creates a bug for 7.0 about ipv6 and default route | 16:26 |
| angdraug | which is good enough for 6.1 but I agree that we should investigate this further in 7.0 | 16:26 |
| xarses | It's ok if we need to make hacks like this near a release, it however also means that we need to follow up later | 16:26 |
| kozhukalov | ok, any other questions here on this topic? | 16:27 |
| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:28 |
| xarses | filtering device | 16:28 |
| kozhukalov | listening | 16:28 |
| xarses | are we in sync with what nailgun-agent does for filtering now, or are they still at odds? | 16:28 |
| xarses | including being able to over-ride the removable device patterns | 16:29 |
| kozhukalov | agordeev: was going to prepare another patch for nailgun-agent, but he is going on vacation, so if he does not, I will | 16:29 |
| xarses | should I file a bug for that or do you have one to work under? | 16:30 |
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| kozhukalov | xarses: not sure if we have such a bug | 16:30 |
| xarses | ok, I will create a bug for that too, you can mark it duplicate if you have another | 16:31 |
| kozhukalov | but I have this in my notes | 16:31 |
| kozhukalov | xarses: yes, create please and assign it to me | 16:31 |
| xarses | ok, lets continue | 16:31 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic How close we are to HCF? | 16:32 |
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| kozhukalov | so, some stats are written down in agenda | 16:32 |
| kozhukalov | we have 88 bugs on fuel and 30 of them is on fuel-python | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | this number includes all open bugs (critical and high) | 16:33 |
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| xarses | does that include docs bugs? | 16:34 |
| kozhukalov | including those which are in-progress | 16:34 |
| kozhukalov | no, i don't think so | 16:34 |
| kozhukalov | i use http://lp-reports.vm.mirantis.net/ | 16:35 |
| kozhukalov | i don't know if it is public or not | 16:35 |
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| kozhukalov | it'd be great to open this for public | 16:35 |
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| kozhukalov | Partners       6 bugs | 16:35 |
| mihgen | we need to add authx first | 16:36 |
| kozhukalov | MOS OpenStack       32 bugs | 16:36 |
| kozhukalov | MOS Linux       10 bugs | 16:36 |
| kozhukalov | Unknown       15 bugs | 16:36 |
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| kozhukalov | mihgen: if there is ETA when it could be done? | 16:36 |
| kozhukalov | i mean auth for this service | 16:36 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, looks like we still have lots of bugs but we've been tending to speed up this week | 16:38 |
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| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:38 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Labor day | 16:39 |
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| kozhukalov | just announcement | 16:39 |
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| kozhukalov | Russian, Ukrainian and Polish teams are gonna be unavailable from 1 May till 4 May | 16:39 |
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| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:40 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Testing in Puppet modles (xarses) | 16:40 |
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| xarses | So we have all these seperate tasks, and some of them even have pre and post tests. I'd like to understand how/when these tests are run. | 16:40 |
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| Tatyanka_Leontov | we use it in integration gd based test | 16:41 |
| xarses | gd? | 16:41 |
| Tatyanka_Leontov | granular deployment :) | 16:41 |
| kozhukalov | ohh, great abbreviation | 16:42 |
| kozhukalov | ibp, gd | 16:42 |
| kozhukalov | what else? | 16:42 |
| xarses | do they run automaticly with every deployment, or is there a specific way to enable them? | 16:42 |
| Tatyanka_Leontov | we plan to execute it on FUEL-CI for each review, but for now integration with FUEL-CI is in progress | 16:42 |
| mihgen | if let's say I changed keystone, will Fuel CI run only for keystone? | 16:43 |
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| Tatyanka_Leontov | yep, absolutely | 16:43 |
| Tatyanka_Leontov | I'll write the announcement with instruction as soon as successful integrated in CI | 16:44 |
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| xarses | the pre/post tests, do they run automaticly with every deployment now, or is there a way to enable them to do so? | 16:44 |
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| xarses | also can we make it (or will it outright) stop the deployment when it fails | 16:45 |
| xarses | I ask, because I think we spend alot of time with snapshots trying to find out which component failed, leading to wasted time. It would be awesome to see a score card or something of the graph, and where it failed | 16:46 |
| Tatyanka_Leontov | xarses: for now we use it only in those integration tests, but seems we can use it everywhere | 16:46 |
| xarses | somewhat similar to what we have for fuel-web | 16:46 |
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| bookwar | mihgen: not _only_ keystone, but _additionally_ keystone | 16:47 |
| mihgen | bookwar: this is not the way we want it with xarses ) | 16:48 |
| mihgen | we want to make the CI cycle shorter | 16:48 |
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| bookwar | mihgen: i think we all need our ci cycle to be reliable | 16:48 |
| mihgen | so if you changed keystone, let's run tests against keystone only | 16:48 |
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| kozhukalov | mihgen: +1 sounds rational | 16:48 |
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| mihgen | that's how it was designed at the very beginning when we had chef cookbooks | 16:49 |
| bookwar | we should have default set of tests running in any case, with additional tests when we change certain particular subsystem | 16:49 |
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| mihgen | why to have tests for anything if we changed just 1 component? | 16:49 |
| mihgen | it's integration test, not system | 16:50 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen: yes, that was the time when we were young and romantic ) | 16:50 |
| bookwar | because we can not be 100% sure that it is the only one component affected | 16:50 |
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| mihgen | kozhukalov: yeah now I have beard ) | 16:50 |
| mihgen | bookwar: nope, you can easily check it | 16:50 |
| aglarendil | folks, this depends on how you specify dependencies | 16:51 |
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| mihgen | for keystone, you've got to have mysql + may be memcached | 16:51 |
| aglarendil | obviously change in keystone may affect the whole openstack | 16:51 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen: and i have a daughter, i won ) | 16:51 |
| mihgen | then you run pre-test ensure everything is ready | 16:51 |
| mihgen | then you deploy keystone, then you run simple tests against it | 16:51 |
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| mihgen | ensure that all endpoints are created | 16:51 |
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| mihgen | so it will cover 95% of keystone cases with a few REST requests | 16:52 |
| bookwar | mihgen: how you define 'all' ? | 16:52 |
| mihgen | no need to run full deployment to understand that keystone works | 16:52 |
| mihgen | all? | 16:52 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: and then you merge the code and understand that neutron os broken and your whole team is blocked | 16:52 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: you can run keystone as a quick test to ensure keystone is working, but you will need to run the whole test like BVT before merging it into the master | 16:53 |
| mihgen | you've got to have better coverage for keystone | 16:53 |
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| aglarendil | you can change API versions that your keystone supports and magically understand that your neutron-server has issues with it | 16:54 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: if you insist, can be done this way, still better then to run Fuel CI agaisnst every patchset | 16:54 |
| aglarendil | boom! all is broken | 16:54 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: well, I am for running hierarchy of tests | 16:54 |
| aglarendil | 1) unit | 16:54 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: you've got to write good tests for keystone ;) | 16:54 |
| aglarendil | 2) noop | 16:54 |
| aglarendil | 3) granule test | 16:54 |
| aglarendil | you cannot write tests for keystone with neutron :-) sorry ) | 16:54 |
| alex_didenko | 4) integration tests (deployments) | 16:54 |
| aglarendil | this is a clash of ares | 16:55 |
| aglarendil | yep, Alex, thx | 16:55 |
| xarses | aglarendil: it dosn't mean that we should stop running full intergration tests | 16:55 |
| aglarendil | and run each next step only if previous ones succeeded | 16:55 |
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| xarses | it does mean that we need to spend less time running intergration tests just to find out that our changes are broken | 16:55 |
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| kozhukalov | 4 minutes | 16:55 |
| aglarendil | xarses: I agree and I suggest to run tests in hierarchy | 16:56 |
| xarses | intergration tests are slow, and expensive to run | 16:56 |
| aglarendil | yep, so run keystone quickly, ensure that everything works, switch to integration - that's fine | 16:56 |
| alex_didenko | +100 for CI jobs hieararchy | 16:56 |
| bookwar | i am all for reorganizing the tests workflow, but definitely againsts switching of default integrations tests and let just developer decide what he wants to test with this patchset. We can do any number of custom tests as a separate service for developers, but we shouldn't have CI without the proper base line | 16:56 |
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| aglarendil | +1 to bookwar + 1 to granular tests +1 to peace and love on the Earth | 16:56 |
| xarses | -1 to peace, otherwise you are good | 16:57 |
| mihgen | no heavy tests against every patchset please | 16:57 |
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| mihgen | may be only for merge gate | 16:57 |
| mihgen | I hope it can be configured | 16:57 |
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| aglarendil | Mike, we just need to increase deployment speed, e.g. parallelize deployment tasks with advanced orchestrator | 16:58 |
| xarses | mihgen: that would be a good compromise, however we have a lot of intergration failures currently | 16:58 |
| angdraug | you want merge gate tests to be heavier than patch set tests? | 16:58 |
| aglarendil | if the whole deployment takes 20 minutes, all our issues will be gone | 16:58 |
| angdraug | that's even worse | 16:58 |
| angdraug | aglarendil: +1 | 16:58 |
| xarses | maybe for now, we dont start the intergration test untill the granular test completes | 16:58 |
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| xarses | we will get results faster | 16:59 |
| xarses | aglarendil: +100 | 16:59 |
| aglarendil | as a compromise we can run a batch of tests at once | 16:59 |
| angdraug | at least we will get negative results faster | 16:59 |
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| aglarendil | and merge them if everything is ok | 16:59 |
| mihgen | I'm not so sure if we can get 20min deployment, but let's do if we can | 16:59 |
| angdraug | time | 16:59 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: if we invest in our granular deployment this release cycle, this should become possible | 16:59 |
| kozhukalov | looks like it is good time to end the meeting ) | 16:59 |
| kozhukalov | thanx everyone for attending | 17:00 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: we will | 17:00 |
| kozhukalov | great meeting | 17:00 |
| kozhukalov | ending | 17:00 |
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| mihgen | thx all | 17:00 |
| kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 30 17:00:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-04-30-16.02.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-04-30-16.02.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-04-30-16.02.log.html | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | I guess we're up! | 17:00 |
| elmiko | huzzah! | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | #startmeeting Security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 30 17:00:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:01 |
| sicarie | o/ | 17:01 |
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| redrobot_mobile | o/ | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | I like being just "Security" - so much less typing at the start of the meeting :) | 17:01 |
| nkinder | Hi all | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: nice to see you :) | 17:01 |
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| singlethink | o/ | 17:01 |
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| nkinder | Sorry for missing last week. I was at the RSA conference | 17:01 |
| elmiko | heyo/ | 17:01 |
| elmiko | ooh neat! | 17:01 |
| nkinder | it's sort of conference season lately for me | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | pfft, you crazy kids and your security conferences... | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: speaking or attending? | 17:02 |
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| nkinder | booth at RSA, speaking at Linuxfest Northwest | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | Fancy! | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | ok cool, so as you're here nkinder should we start off with an overview of OSSN ? | 17:03 |
| nkinder | Sure | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | #topic OSSN | 17:04 |
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| nkinder | I just published one that elmiko wrote (his first!) | 17:04 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Fantastic, congratulations elmiko! | 17:04 |
| nkinder | Yep, much thanks! | 17:04 |
| elmiko | thanks =) | 17:04 |
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| nkinder | I think we can +A 0046 (the Pecan one) | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Oh cool, I think that's mine | 17:05 |
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| nkinder | There's not really a single affected project that we would expect a +1 from | 17:05 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:05 |
| nkinder | I wanted to see if others were OK with me giving it a +A and bypassing the normal +1 requirement | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | Fine with me, given that there's no single stakeholder who can approve. | 17:05 |
| tkelsey | +1 | 17:06 |
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| nkinder | ok, cool. I'll +A and publish it today then | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder sicarie do we want another docs core to replace bdpayne? | 17:06 |
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| sicarie | +1 | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: What do you think? | 17:07 |
| sicarie | I think one more doc core would definitely help with timely reviews | 17:07 |
| nkinder | yeah, I think it would help | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Personally I think we're doing ok but there's certainly space to add one without making things messy | 17:07 |
| nkinder | Why don't we discuss in a few weeks at the Summit? | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | Seems reasonable | 17:08 |
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| gmurphy | o/ | 17:08 |
| gmurphy | sorry i'm late.. | 17:08 |
| nkinder | We have a few stagnant notes | 17:09 |
| nkinder | I think one of them just needs a review from the affected project | 17:09 |
| nkinder | Let me get a link... | 17:09 |
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| nkinder | https://review.openstack.org/136203 | 17:09 |
| nkinder | We need a Neutron reviewer | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | Agreed, anyone got a friendly one? | 17:10 |
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| nkinder | looks like this is LBaaS, and there are only 4 cores | 17:11 |
| nkinder | I just added that group to the review | 17:11 |
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| nkinder | Kyle Mestery might be the best to reach out to | 17:12 |
| nkinder | I can do that | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | Cool, good plan nkinder | 17:12 |
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| mestery | nkinder: Also, dougwig and blogan | 17:12 |
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| nkinder | mestery: Hi! | 17:12 |
| mestery | nkinder: Howdy! | 17:12 |
| dougwig | hello | 17:12 |
| nkinder | mestery: Sure, the more the merrier :) | 17:12 |
| mestery | dougwig: Security issue with LBaaS, see review above | 17:13 |
| nkinder | We need a review on an OSSN around LBaaS before we can publish | 17:13 |
| dougwig | looking | 17:13 |
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| mestery | nkinder: dougwig is the right buy for sure, and I'll review now as well. Thanks for pinging me! | 17:13 |
| nkinder | Aside from that on OSSNs, there are a few bugs I need to close out for issues we published. I'll do that today so the list is accurate. | 17:13 |
| nkinder | mestery, dougwig: Thanks guys! | 17:14 |
| nkinder | I have no update on the OSSN parsing script. I need more hours in the day to hack on it. ;) | 17:14 |
| elmiko | hehe | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | Is it at a point where you'd want to share it and maybe get some others to take a whack or still too early? | 17:15 |
| nkinder | perhaps on the flight to the Summit. I can certainly demo what I have to others there. | 17:15 |
| dougwig | nkinder: i have to run out for a bit. ok to review that in about 2 hours? | 17:15 |
| nkinder | dougwig: absolutely | 17:15 |
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| nkinder | hyakuhei: I'll see about pushing what I have to github so others can take a look | 17:15 |
| elmiko | +1 | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | cool, no pressure, just if you think it would be useful nkinder | 17:16 |
| * nkinder adds to my todo list | 17:16 | |
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| nkinder | That's it on OSSNs. | 17:16 |
| dg_ | hey guys, sorry I'm late | 17:16 |
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| nkinder | dg_: hey | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | hey dg_ | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks for the work on the OSSN nkinder | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | tkelsey: Any updates on Bandit this week? tmcpeak isn't here. | 17:18 |
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| tkelsey | hummm, nothing that im aware of | 17:18 |
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| elmiko | i have a small bandit request | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | Cool | 17:18 |
| tkelsey | elmiko: oh? | 17:18 |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177855/ | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | #topic bandit | 17:18 |
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| elmiko | i'm working on creating the tox stuff for our bandit gating tests | 17:18 |
| tkelsey | ah awesome :) how can i help? | 17:19 |
| elmiko | i would love an extra eye or two on that review to maybe advise about plugins we might want to use | 17:19 |
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| tkelsey | ok i'll look it over | 17:19 |
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| elmiko | nothing major, thanks! | 17:19 |
| tkelsey | :) | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: Anything to report on Bandit in the land of Keystone? | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | I guess he's not around :) | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | #topic security.openstack.org | 17:21 |
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| gmurphy | #link https://github.com/gcmurphy/python-sec-guidance | 17:21 |
| gmurphy | --^ | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | gmurphy: I recall you were possibly going to talk to the rest of the VMT about whether this should continue to be in the OSSA repo? | 17:21 |
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| gmurphy | is attempt to convert existing documentation to rst | 17:21 |
| gmurphy | now we need to figure out where to put it etc / how to merge it | 17:22 |
| gmurphy | also the content needs a bit of work | 17:23 |
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| gmurphy | but that's just the security guidance stuff. | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | That looks pretty nice gmurphy, the RST are pretty tidy. | 17:23 |
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| elmiko | yea, very nice | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | Thank you gmurphy | 17:24 |
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| gmurphy | i had a chat with fungi last week during after the meeting. i think he has some ideas about how we could host it. i'll try to follow up with him about it. | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | That's useful, thanks | 17:25 |
| fungi | please do (but not on kilo release day) | 17:25 |
| gmurphy | haha | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah - happy Kilo day everyone! | 17:26 |
| tkelsey | elmiko: LGTM on your Bandit gate patch | 17:26 |
| elmiko | tkelsey: awesome, thanks | 17:27 |
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| tkelsey | elmiko: my pleasure, feel free to ping me with any specific issues that arise or general questions | 17:27 |
| elmiko | tkelsey: cool, will do. i have some ideas for plugins that might be useful for us. | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | I don't have much else to discuss today, I think everyone is busy getting ready for the summit | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Any Other Business | 17:28 |
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| tkelsey | elmiko: :) | 17:28 |
| sicarie | hyakuhei: do we have a schedule for what's going on in the summit areas for Security? | 17:28 |
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| hyakuhei | Yup | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | It's all in your email, one sec | 17:29 |
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| hyakuhei | #link http://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/type/design+summit/Security#.VToWqRPF_8k | 17:30 |
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| sicarie | no sec guide ? :) | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | Well, that's what the email I sent out was for, we've got three sessions, VMT needs one of them. Depending on who turns up to the work session that could be on the security guide or on rebranding | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | TBH historically we've never worked on the sec guide at the summit | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | It's too involved | 17:32 |
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| sicarie | hyakuhei: understood, we were thinking there'd be some planning around both the physical book state and format conversion | 17:32 |
| sicarie | but we can always just grab some free space for that | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | I don't have strong feelings against it, we could use the work room for that? | 17:33 |
| sicarie | Sure | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | Cool. | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | Anything else to discuss today? | 17:35 |
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| nkinder | Nothing else here. | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | Ok cool, I think we can probably wrap then :) | 17:37 |
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| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 30 17:37:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-04-30-17.00.html | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks everyone! | 17:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-04-30-17.00.txt | 17:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-04-30-17.00.log.html | 17:37 |
| elmiko | thanks hyakuhei | 17:37 |
| tkelsey | thanks hyakuhei | 17:37 |
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| tkelsey | let me know how things go with bandit elmiko :) | 17:38 |
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| elmiko | tkelsey: will do! | 17:38 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | hey sahara folks! | 17:59 |
| Nikolay_St | SergeyLukjanov: it's time? | 17:59 |
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| tmckay | hey | 17:59 |
| vgridnev_ | hey | 18:00 |
| huichun_ | hello | 18:00 |
| elmiko | yo | 18:00 |
| Nikolay_St | o/ | 18:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 30 18:00:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | folks, I need to go a bit earlier today | 18:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #chair tmckay | 18:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SergeyLukjanov tmckay | 18:01 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, could you please end the meeting if I'll need to go before it? | 18:01 |
| tmckay | sure | 18:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, thx! | 18:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Design summit sessions | 18:01 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | folks, it's the main topic for today in addition to the common news/update | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-proposed-sessions | 18:02 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I've added summit layout proposal to the top of the doc | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | >> Fish bowl sessions | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | The obligatory Sahara UI improvement session (crobertsrh) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | Secure Sahara, where we have been, where we are, where we are going (elmiko) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | >> Working sessions | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | The great API v2 debate (elmiko, SergeyLukjanov?) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | Sahara HA (alazarev) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | EDP future improvements - scheduling, extended Oozie support (tmckay, weiting) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | Sahara resources editability, dependencies, visibility, versioning? (SergeyLukjanov, ?) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | Future of plugin mechanism (SergeyLukjanov) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | please, take a look and comment | 18:03 |
| elmiko | the proposed layout looks pretty good to me | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'd like to push the schedule to https://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/?s=sahara this week | 18:04 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, IMO it covers all proposed stuff + traditionally important stuff for sahara | 18:04 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | except versioned objects and bring your big data framework | 18:04 |
| tmckay | lgtm there is more than can possibly be discussed in any one summit, sane choices | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | first one if good for friday and second one is hopefully will be covered during summit | 18:05 |
| elmiko | would be nice to talk about those as well SergeyLukjanov | 18:05 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | we have the full day at Friday | 18:05 |
| elmiko | cool | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, I presume there will be enough time to chat about everything :) | 18:05 |
| elmiko | probably not, but we'll give it our best ;) | 18:06 |
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| tmckay | especially interested in weiting's customer use case | 18:06 |
| elmiko | +1 | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we probably will need to skip Canadian beer discussion | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, +1 | 18:06 |
| elmiko | what!?! | 18:06 |
| Nikolay_St | :D | 18:06 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: -1 to that... ;) | 18:06 |
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| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, plenty of parties for that | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | folks, what do you think - should we vote for this layout or just let's name it approved? | 18:06 |
| tmckay | approved | 18:07 |
| huichun | tmckay: Trevor hi I have reply your email about edp just now | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, elmiko yeah, parties will help to discuss it earlier :) | 18:07 |
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| elmiko | maybe send it to ML to make sure folks who aren't here see it, then approve tomorrow? | 18:07 |
| huichun | and will update the spec later | 18:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, it could be changed anytime | 18:07 |
| tmckay | huichun, oh, I saw it. | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we're not freezing it till the summit itself | 18:08 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, when is the design summit schedule posted? | 18:08 |
| elmiko | ok, cool. then i'm fine the way it is. i just want to make sure all the intel folks get a chance to comment. | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we just need to name slots on summit | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, https://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/?s=sahara | 18:08 |
| tmckay | huichun, I think I follow. We already have an abstract interface for run, cancel, status. I am wondering if we can extend that interface to include scheduling and dependencies. Is that your understanding? | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, I'll fill the sched.org this week and send an email to ML | 18:08 |
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| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: awesome, +1 | 18:08 |
| tmckay | so, each EDP engine implements (or not. Could be optional) | 18:08 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, to make them able to review and mark as well | 18:09 |
| mattf | heh, url format changed - http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/sahara s/kilo/liberty/ -> #fail | 18:09 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, :) | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/?s=sahara | 18:09 |
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| huichun | yes I mean add abstract function like scheduler running jobs | 18:09 |
| tmckay | huichun, +1. Will you be at Summit? I forget | 18:09 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | any more comments / questions re design summit? | 18:10 |
| elmiko | looking forward to it =) | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, yup :) | 18:10 |
| huichun | i will not,weiting will say hello to you for me ^_^ | 18:10 |
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| mattf | looking forward to it, until fri morning! | 18:10 |
| tmckay | huichun, okay :) | 18:10 |
| elmiko | mattf: lol! | 18:10 |
| mattf | elmiko, i necessarily have to fly back fri am | 18:11 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #agreed on the proposed design summit layout | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #agree on the proposed design summit layout | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov) | 18:11 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon | 18:11 |
| NikitaKonovalov | not much updates on that from me | 18:12 |
| NikitaKonovalov | some changes got merged so I moved them to the merged section | 18:12 |
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| tmckay | crobertsrh is coming ... | 18:12 |
| tmckay | there he is | 18:12 |
| tmckay | crobertsrh, horizon review status | 18:13 |
| huichun_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162273/ | 18:13 |
| huichun | merged | 18:13 |
| crobertsrh | Not much in for reviews there lately. I had a change to use the job types endpoint get merged. | 18:13 |
| tmckay | awesome. I hope it works :) | 18:14 |
| huichun | SergeyLukjanov: so I should add merged in that ether pad? | 18:14 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | huichun: I'll update that as well | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | huichun, it'll be helpful | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we're trying to monitor the horizon changes to keep understanding of progress | 18:15 |
| huichun | ok thanks NikitaKonovalov | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anything else re horizon stuff? | 18:15 |
| crobertsrh | I'm working on a bug fix that might be backport worthy (to kilo) | 18:15 |
| crobertsrh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1450535 | 18:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1450535 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "[data processing] Create node group and cluster templates can fail" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Chad Roberts (croberts) | 18:15 |
| crobertsrh | Discovered today for hosts that are not using / as root | 18:16 |
| crobertsrh | my first attempt at fixing it ran into django 1.4 compat issues | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, oh | 18:16 |
| crobertsrh | I am about to submit another fix for it that should be django 1.4 compat | 18:16 |
| NikitaKonovalov | crobertsrh: I dont thing anyone is using 1.4 now | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, it sounds like an important issues | 18:16 |
| crobertsrh | The gate uses it :) | 18:16 |
| NikitaKonovalov | oh | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:17 |
| tmckay | crobertsrh, if it's true for ng and cl templates, is it true for other objects too? | 18:17 |
| crobertsrh | So, I have a [much worse] fix coming in soon | 18:17 |
| crobertsrh | ng, cl and jobs | 18:17 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:18 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #info Kilo release! | 18:18 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, we have a Kilo release for Sahara, yay! | 18:19 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 18:19 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | btw, Liberty release schedule | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link News / updates | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | shit | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 18:19 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, we added high-level RH stuff to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-teams-plans | 18:19 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, great, thx! | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, no collisions? :) | 18:20 |
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| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, not so far! | 18:20 |
| elmiko | no collisions, only collaborations! | 18:20 |
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| crobertsrh | Not until we try to rebuild the direct engine :) | 18:20 |
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| elmiko | haha! | 18:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:20 |
| tmckay | I should clear purple, it's hard to read | 18:20 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | re Ironic integration - we could chat a lot about it on summit - we already have this integration working | 18:21 |
| Nikolay_St | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175363/ healthchecks spec is ready, but we have some stuff to discuss | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | as PoC | 18:21 |
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| huichun_ | can we add intel plan on that pad? | 18:21 |
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| tmckay | huichun_, yes! | 18:21 |
| tmckay | please do | 18:21 |
| huichun | ok | 18:21 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, okay on Ironic | 18:22 |
| tmckay | sounds good | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | huichun, that's for what this etherpad was created, it'll be awesome to see highlights from your plan for liberty | 18:22 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 18:22 |
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| huichun | SergeyLukjanov: thanks Sergey | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | Nikolay_St, what stuff you'd like to discuss? | 18:23 |
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| Nikolay_St | SergeyLukjanov: JSON format that you mention in comment | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | do you have a new proposal? | 18:24 |
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| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177855/ | 18:26 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: i'd love to get more feedback on that | 18:26 |
| Nikolay_St | SergeyLukjanov: nope. just want to see what'd you want from it. may be we can storage inside JSON some error codes for each component if any | 18:26 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | Nikolay_St, I'm looking on it from the other point of view - what should user see in horizon? | 18:27 |
| huichun__ | so these days we are talking about that could we add thirdparty libs management in sahara ? most use case is that, if we want run a edp job, this job depends on one thirdparty lib and maybe other jobs depend on it too, so can we add a horizon page like lib management? just original thoughts in our team | 18:27 |
| elmiko | sorry to interrupt Nikolay_St | 18:27 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | IMO the best case is to be able to show overall ternary status + description message | 18:27 |
| elmiko | huichun__: nice idea | 18:28 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | like status health is Yellow because you're HDFS is drunk but still functional (some of data nodes are dead, but still < replication factor) | 18:28 |
| huichun | elmiko: so we can call it share lib management or something else | 18:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | huichun, a very good topic for summit discussions | 18:28 |
| elmiko | huichun: and these are shared libs for use in the cluster right? | 18:28 |
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| huichun | elmiko: yes | 18:29 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | huichun, in fact job binaries could be used for it | 18:29 |
| elmiko | huichun: then yes, shared lib management makes sense to me | 18:29 |
| huichun | SergeyLukjanov: so I will tell weiting to talk it with you on summit | 18:29 |
| crobertsrh | huichun: Maybe a way to upload a lib and just mark it shared rather than have a separate page? | 18:29 |
| tmckay | huichun, we've had some bps out for a long time I think about supporing files and archives tags in Oozie. That would relate | 18:29 |
| crobertsrh | In general, we have too many pages already | 18:30 |
| tmckay | huichun, a way to push up common libs to the cluster | 18:30 |
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| huichun | tmckay: yes actually original idea comes from Ozzie share lib with you | 18:30 |
| tmckay | course, should not be Oozie-specific | 18:30 |
| Nikolay_St | SergeyLukjanov: ok, get it. will thin about it. | 18:31 |
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| huichun | tmckay: but the user can hardly find the Ozzie.sharelib and use it successfully | 18:31 |
| tmckay | huichun, agreed. We should make it easy | 18:32 |
| tmckay | huichun, my feeling on EDP stuff for liberty -- make it all easier | 18:32 |
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| tmckay | imho, "easier" is better than "new features" at this point | 18:32 |
| huichun | tmckay: ok | 18:33 |
| tmckay | huichun, but some new features are good :) like scheduler and coordinated jobs | 18:33 |
| tmckay | I think that falls into "easier" | 18:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, ++ :) | 18:33 |
| huichun | tmckay: ^_^ | 18:33 |
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| tmckay | what I'm talking about is finding rough edges in the workflow and removing them | 18:34 |
| tmckay | lowering the bar to adoption, that kind of thing. Some of the UI wizard stuff crobertsrh did is part of this | 18:35 |
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| elmiko | +1 | 18:35 |
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| huichun | tmckay: so you mean that we should make the sharelib more common sense not oozie specific, right? | 18:35 |
| tmckay | huichun, yes, if we can figure out a way to do sharelib for Spark, great | 18:36 |
| tmckay | then we have a general feature | 18:36 |
| elmiko | that would have nice implications for the wrapper lib ideas too | 18:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yup | 18:37 |
| tmckay | huichun, same thing for Telles Storm stuff | 18:37 |
| huichun | tmckay: ok, I will take a research on that , details will offline by email with you | 18:37 |
| tmckay | huichun, thank you | 18:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yeah, Storm stuff is a super cool example to test our internal and external APIs | 18:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sorry folks, I need to go | 18:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thanks! | 18:38 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: later | 18:38 |
| tmckay | okay. Do we have other stuff? If not we can all leave with Sergey :) | 18:38 |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 18:39 |
| huichun__ | nothing from me too | 18:39 |
| tmckay | okay, I'll wait 5 minutes and end if nobody brings up anything | 18:40 |
| crobertsrh | nothing here | 18:40 |
| tmckay | huichun__, so, just to clarify, above I meant my personal focus ("easy" versus "new feature"), I do not want to discourage new ideas. Please pursue your ideas! | 18:41 |
| tmckay | huichun__, but there are things I would like to fix that bother me, which I think will make a better user experience. That's all. | 18:41 |
| huichun | tmckay: got it ^_^ | 18:42 |
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| huichun | tmckay: so which nickname is SergeyReshetnyak? | 18:44 |
| tmckay | sreshetnyak I think | 18:45 |
| tmckay | okay, folks, last call ... | 18:46 |
| huichun | sreshetnyak: hi Sergey I have replied you the HA on CDH, so if you have any ideas, we can talk with email ^_^ | 18:46 |
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| tmckay | #endmeeting | 18:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 30 18:50:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-04-30-18.00.html | 18:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-04-30-18.00.txt | 18:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-04-30-18.00.log.html | 18:50 |
| tmckay | thanks folks | 18:50 |
| Nikolay_St | bye! | 18:50 |
| huichun | bye | 18:50 |
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| elmiko | thanks tmckay | 18:51 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 30 19:00:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:00 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic RollCall | 19:00 |
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| amitgandhinz | yo yo yo | 19:00 |
| catherineR | o/ | 19:00 |
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| sriram | o/ | 19:01 |
| mpanetta | o/ | 19:01 |
| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:01 |
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| obulpathi | 0/ | 19:02 |
| obulpathi | o/ | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Last Week Today | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-04-16-19.00.html | 19:02 |
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| malini | o/ | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | Nothing from last week to action on =P | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Blueprints and Bugs | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/kilo-3 | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | hmmm i need to publish a Release Candidate =P | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | anyone know how miqui is doing with the devstack integration> | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/devstack | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok moving on | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | sriram: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/log-delivery | 19:04 |
| sriram | nope, we can check with him when he pops back in the channel. | 19:04 |
| obulpathi | amitgandhinz: so, this will be a final release for Kilo-3? | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: yes. | 19:04 |
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| sriram | amitgandhinz: the api is merged, along with ways to create containers. | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | then we will move on to L | 19:04 |
| sriram | for services. | 19:05 |
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| sriram | the pig latin scripts need to be added. | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | ok i will mark it as done once the pig scripts get submitted | 19:05 |
| sriram | +1 | 19:06 |
| obulpathi | +1 | 19:06 |
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| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/vanity-ssl Custom SSL | 19:06 |
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| tonytan4ever | Custom SSL main logic is done. Now I am working on a mimic service to allow easier testing. | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | ok cool. i will change this to in progress | 19:07 |
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| tonytan4ever | I am kind hesitant to use one of our 10 slots to test. | 19:07 |
| tonytan4ever | Okay | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | hm ok | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/shared-ssl is done right | 19:08 |
| malini | tonytan4ever: u mean we will use mimic akamai ? | 19:08 |
| tonytan4ever | Yeah | 19:08 |
| tonytan4ever | that is in production | 19:08 |
| tonytan4ever | malini: Yes. | 19:08 |
| malini | tonytan4ever: u mean released, rt ;) | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | SAN is in progress | 19:09 |
| tonytan4ever | Yes | 19:09 |
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| tonytan4ever | I am trying to figure out some of the issues when doing SAN automated process. | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | ya | 19:10 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok wrt bugs, im going to have to do some cleanup of that. i will do that once i make the L series and move everything over | 19:11 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:11 |
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| amitgandhinz | so in other news, Poppy has its first production deployment ;-) | 19:12 |
| sriram | woohoo ;) | 19:12 |
| malini | great news amitgandhinz ;) | 19:12 |
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| obulpathi | WOOT!!!! | 19:12 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cdn-content-delivery-network | 19:12 |
| tonytan4ever | yah | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | so Openstack Vancouver is coming up soon (May 18) | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | malini and I will be attending | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | megan_w_ will be there also | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | catherineR: will you be there? | 19:14 |
| catherineR | Sorry, no. | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | so, we have a Poppy Collaboration Day on the Wed from 9am - 1230pm | 19:15 |
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| sriram | very cool! | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/open-cloud-ecosystem/ | 19:16 |
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| sriram | whats the theme? | 19:16 |
| sriram | of the collaboration? | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | Open Cloud Ecosystem Collaboration Days: An evolution of the open source ecosystem design sessions from Atlanta and Paris, Collaboration Days provide an opportunity for other cloud related projects or groups to reserve space within in the Summit venue for a half or full day session. To secure one of these spaces, you need to fill out an application by April 10. If accepted, you have the opportunity and responsibility | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | to set the agenda and coordinate with participants. The goal is to foster collaboration across the communities, so interactive working sessions and meetings are an ideal format. Collaboration Days will be promoted on the conference agenda and with on-site signage at the Summit. | 19:16 |
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| obulpathi | can we get on hangouts and colloborate remotely? | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | potentially | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | interesting | 19:16 |
| sriram | obulpathi: I'd like that. | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | :) | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | i could maybe pull up vidyo or something haha | 19:17 |
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| amitgandhinz | athough it will be 6am in Atlanta ;-) | 19:17 |
| sriram | :O | 19:18 |
| * sriram is up for the challenge | 19:18 | |
| amitgandhinz | im still working out the format of the meetup | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | haha | 19:18 |
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| amitgandhinz | im thinking spend some time going over poppy and what has been achieved | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | maybe talk about rackspace's lessons learned | 19:18 |
| malini | It'll be noon in ATL | 19:18 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: I think thats a good start | 19:19 |
| tonytan4ever | +1 | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | and then collaborate on the roadmap ahead | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | malini is correct | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | i hate timezones | 19:19 |
| obulpathi | can we create a etherpad | 19:19 |
| obulpathi | so that we can write down things if they come up | 19:19 |
| malini | it'll be cool if we can get some CDN providers in the room | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/poppy_vancouver | 19:20 |
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| obulpathi | amitgandhinz: awesome :) | 19:20 |
| malini | Any of them https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/sponsors/ do cdn? | 19:20 |
| obulpathi | will add any ideas to it | 19:20 |
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| wbrothers | what did I miss | 19:21 |
| megan_w_ | amitgandhinz: do you want to add any specific topics to collaborate on? | 19:21 |
| megan_w_ | or keep it general? | 19:22 |
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| amitgandhinz | we should figure out roadmap and where the perceived value is | 19:22 |
| megan_w_ | in the room, or before? | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | ie do we need to focus on features, community participation, making it easier to contribute | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | we should figure out topics before | 19:23 |
| megan_w_ | ok cool | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | and then in the room we find the answers | 19:23 |
| megan_w_ | do you want to chat about that now or later? | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | we can start on the etherpad now if we have time | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | and then continue the conversation later | 19:23 |
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| megan_w_ | ok, that's all i got | 19:38 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok this is a good start | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | we can iterate over the next couple of weeks | 19:42 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok anyone have anything else they want to talk about? | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | sriram: malini: obulpathi: tonytan4ever | 19:43 |
| sriram | I'm good. | 19:43 |
| malini | not from me | 19:43 |
| tonytan4ever | nope. | 19:43 |
| obulpathi | amitgandhinz: anothing from me | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | ok thanks everyone | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 30 19:44:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-04-30-19.00.html | 19:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-04-30-19.00.txt | 19:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-04-30-19.00.log.html | 19:44 |
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