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dimscourtesy ping for jd__, dhellmann, bnemec, flaper87, harlowja, viktors, rpodolyaka, zzzeek, sileht, kgiusti, dansmith, kragniz, amotoki, lintan, toabctl,jecarey, rpodolyaka115:59
dimscourtesy ping for redrobot, jungleboyj, zhiyan, therve, amotoki, GheRivero, bknudson, ihrachyshka, jogo, dougwig, sreshetnyak, amrith,haypo, johnsom, ozamiatin15:59
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dims#startmeeting oslo16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 22 16:00:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dims. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
ozamiatino/16:00
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bknudsonwhat's up?16:00
rpodolyaka1o/16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'16:00
kragnizo/16:00
jungleboyjo/ Kind-of.16:00
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dimshope you all had a good weekend, lets give it another minute16:00
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dims#topic Red flags for/from liaisons16:01
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bknudsonnone for keystone16:01
dimsthanks bknudson16:02
kragniznothing from glance16:02
dimsthanks kragniz16:03
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zzzeeko.16:03
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dimsbknudson: thanks for kicking the oslo.service tires16:03
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bknudsondims: seems to work and it removes 1000 loc from keystone16:03
dimsbknudson: we could use help with oslo.cache tests from some of the keystone folks16:03
dimsnice16:03
dimsswitching16:03
dims#topic Releases for this week16:04
dimsDo we neeed any releases? Here are the unreleased changes16:04
dims#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/313420/16:04
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harlowja_at_hometooz16:04
dimsharlowja_at_home: y16:04
harlowja_at_homethat needs to finally happen i think :)16:04
harlowja_at_homei'd like to get out https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/futurist,n,z but i think its being made problematic by devstack integration?16:05
* dhellmann ducks in the back late16:05
dimsharlowja_at_home: link please?16:05
harlowja_at_homehttp://logs.openstack.org/82/193982/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-futurist/6461a55/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz16:05
harlowja_at_homehttp://logs.openstack.org/82/193982/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-futurist/6461a55/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-06-22_12_38_44_63516:05
harlowja_at_homepretty sure thats killing its gate16:06
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harlowja_at_homei believe but not 100% sure that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187373/ fixes that ?16:06
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dimsharlowja_at_home: ok, will look after this meeting16:06
harlowja_at_homek16:06
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dimsdhellmann: do you plan to cut any libraries?16:07
dhellmanndims: I was going to talk to you about turning that over to you this week.16:07
dhellmannI'd like to get new versions of our libs with the "Drop use of 'oslo' namespace package" changes16:07
* harlowja_at_home thinks we need a bot for that :-P16:07
stevemardims, i didn't get a chance to look @ the oslo.cache stuff over the weekend, but it's on my radar16:07
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dimsdhellmann: ack, i will ping you later and we can go over which ones16:08
dhellmanndims: also oslo.i18n with the change that removes the namespace package16:08
harlowja_at_homea 'releasebot' for lack of better terms16:08
dhellmanndims: sounds good16:08
dims#action: dims to talk to dhellmann about taking over releases this week16:08
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dimsharlowja_at_home: ++16:08
dimsstevemar: thanks16:08
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dims#topic New libraries and drivers - how is it going?16:08
dhellmannharlowja_at_home: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191193/16:08
dims#link specs - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/16:08
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ozamiatinI need someone to look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193502/16:09
dimswe've boot strapped various teams like oslo.service, oslo.cache, oslo.reports16:09
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harlowja_at_homenew libraries going good, except for above current issue (with devstack?)16:09
harlowja_at_home*from my side*16:09
dimsdo we need more eyes on futurist and automaton?16:09
harlowja_at_homesure, more eyes always welcome :-P16:10
dimsi talked to a few folks like dansmith as well if he needed addditional help16:10
dimsharlowja_at_home: need to find folks interested?16:10
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harlowja_at_homedims, possibly, i can poke an ironic guy to see if he wants to be in futurist-core, they are planning on using it there16:10
dimsharlowja_at_home: ++16:11
harlowja_at_homevia https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134303/16:11
dimsany other new library/driver issues?16:11
harlowja_at_home* that spec and the bigger one @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191710/16:11
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dimsharlowja_at_home: k starred both16:12
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dims#topic Ongoing work & Review priorities16:12
dims#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-oslo-priorities-tracking16:12
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harlowja_at_homedims, cool, 134303 i  think is old, probably not relevant anymore ( 191710 is new hotness)16:12
dimsharlowja_at_home: ack16:12
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dimsflaper87: sileht: ozamiatin: how's oslo.messaging?16:13
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ozamiatindims, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193502/16:13
dimsozamiatin: yay16:13
ozamiatindims, spec is in progress https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187338/16:14
dimsozamiatin: did the email threads die down?16:14
dimsand spec updated to reflect that discussion?16:14
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ozamiatindims, not yet updated16:15
kgiustiflaper87 and I are working on getting py3 support for amqp1.0 - proton upstream py3 just landed on master16:15
dimsozamiatin: k please do that and ping us back16:15
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ozamiatindims, ok16:15
dims#action ozamiatin to update oslo.messaging spec and ask for approval16:15
dimskgiusti: nice, did you create a the devstack plugin for testing?16:16
dimslike the one sdague did for zmq16:16
kgiustiI've started one, yes: https://github.com/kgiusti/amqp1-devstack16:17
dimskgiusti: ack.16:17
kgiustitotally not working... yet16:17
dimsdhellmann: any thoughts on where we could host these plugins?16:17
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dimsapparently it's repo per plugin at the moment16:17
dhellmanndims: would it make sense to put them in the oslo.messaging repository?16:17
dhellmannoh, ugh16:17
dimsi have to verify that with sdague16:18
dhellmannif that's true, we'll need new repos, I guess16:18
dhellmannotherwise it would be good to be able to put them in the messaging repo16:18
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dims#action dims to figure out repos for oslo.messaging driver devstack plugins16:18
* ihrachyshka lurks...16:19
dimszzzeek: rpodolyaka1: oslo.db doing ok?16:19
harlowja_at_homeshould we also consider to have a common repo for 'setup-test-env-*.sh' files?16:19
harlowja_at_homenow that oslo.messaging has a few, tooz has some to16:19
* harlowja_at_home just a thought16:19
dimsgive yourself an action harlowja_at_home? :)16:20
harlowja_at_home:-P16:20
harlowja_at_homedurn it, ha16:20
harlowja_at_homeha16:20
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harlowja_at_home#action harlowja_at_home consider to have a common repo for 'setup-test-env-*.sh' files?16:20
bknudsonrelated to oslo.db -- the update to sqlalchemy version is breaking keystone -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190405/16:20
bknudsonthe workaround is easy -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193741/16:20
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dhellmannharlowja_at_home: what are those files?16:21
bknudsonnot sure if anyone else saw issues with it16:21
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harlowja_at_homedhellmann, top level of the repo16:21
rpodolyaka1dims: from what I know, yes :) we could cut a new release of oslo.db this week16:21
dimsbknudson: so we need to cut a oslo.db with that16:21
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harlowja_at_homelook for https://github.com/openstack/tooz (setup-.sh)16:21
zzzeekdims: we r cool16:21
harlowja_at_homein https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging (setup-test*.sh)16:21
bknudsondims: the fix is in keystone16:21
* zzzeek has a baby issue on this end, brb16:21
dims#action dims to coordinate a oslo.db release16:22
* harlowja_at_home the baby issue isn't me16:22
dimsbknudson: ok16:22
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dhellmannharlowja_at_home: hmm, ok. keeping those close to the source they're testing feels right, but maybe not the root directory16:22
harlowja_at_homedhellmann, possibly, maybe premature (but i could see other projects wanting those same kind of setup*.sh files)16:22
dhellmannharlowja_at_home: true16:22
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dims#action rpodolyaka1 to let dims know when a release can be cut from oslo.db HEAD16:23
dimsrpodolyaka1: ^^ :)16:23
rpodolyaka1dims: ok16:23
dimsthanks16:23
rpodolyaka1np16:23
dimsok switching to open16:24
dims#topic Open discussion16:24
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dimsAny stuck reviews? or specs?16:24
epicohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/121459/16:24
harlowja_at_homeso i had some moose names,but i forgot them, lol16:24
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harlowja_at_homei swear! :)16:24
dimsharlowja_at_home: haha16:24
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epicowhat is the next step for the spec?16:24
harlowja_at_homemaybe we should just call it bullwinkle16:25
dhellmann#info the next oslo.i18n release will remove the oslo namespace package16:25
harlowja_at_homebullwinkle ftw :-P16:25
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dimsharlowja_at_home: ++16:25
harlowja_at_homehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullwinkle_J._Moose (for those who have no idea what that means)16:25
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johnsomMarty Moose16:26
bknudsonhow many famous meese are there?16:26
epicoit is a spec for oslo.i18n.16:26
harlowja_at_homelol @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullwinkle_J._Moose#Powers_and_abilities16:26
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dhellmannsileht, dims: it would be good if we could merge https://review.openstack.org/193340 quickly16:26
kgiustibullwinkle - one of my favorite actors16:26
jecareyepico, I think the key question is if we should specify to pick up the plurals in each tox.ini or in the tool16:27
dimsdhellmann: ack16:27
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dimsi believe sileht may be on vacation16:27
dimsozamiatin: can you please look?16:28
ozamiatindims, ok16:28
harlowja_at_homepeople and there vacations, jeez16:28
harlowja_at_homeno vacation allowed16:28
epicojecarey, I think in the tool is easier, or we will change many tox.ini files.16:28
dhellmanndims: ok, anyone could approve that, it's just a namespace package change to unblock some more releases16:28
dimsdhellmann: y already +216:28
dhellmanndims: ack, see that now16:29
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epicojecarey, but I am okay with both approach.16:29
jecareyepico, my opinion is to do it in the tool ... but asked you to bring here to get opinion from dims, dhellmann16:29
epicojecarey, thanks, I see.16:30
epicodims, dhellmann, hi16:30
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epicocould you please review it?16:30
dimsepico: starred it16:30
epicohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/121459/16:30
dimswill review after the meeting16:30
epicookay16:30
dhellmannepico: added to my queue16:31
epicothanks! :)16:31
dimsanything else anyone?16:31
dimsi can give you back 30 mins :)16:31
dhellmannepico: I feel like I asked once before, do we need versions of the new functions for different log levels?16:32
dhellmannor are you assuming they will just be used for errors?16:32
ozamiatindims, dhellmann, may I approve this https://review.openstack.org/193340?16:32
johnsomThank you guys for the patchsets in our repos!16:32
dhellmannozamiatin: yes, it should be safe. It removes the *use* of namespace packages in other libs, but doesn't remove the namespace package from the messaging library16:33
dimsozamiatin: yes16:33
ozamiatindims, dhellmann, my first approval :)16:33
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dimsjohnsom: yay16:33
* dhellmann applauds ozamiatin 16:33
dimsozamiatin: congrats! :)16:33
dimswelcome to all the new cores btw :)16:33
epicodhellmann, I think it is used for UI strings now, not introduced any new functions for log levels.16:33
ozamiatindims, dhellmann, thanks :)16:33
* dhellmann is happy to see the team growing16:33
dhellmannepico: ok, that makes sense16:33
epicoif needed, I can add new functions for logs.16:34
harlowja_at_homemoreeee cores!16:34
dhellmannepico: let's wait and see; it's easier to add them later than to remove them16:34
harlowja_at_home*and welcome*16:34
epicodhellmann, sure16:34
dimsthanks everyone16:34
dims#endmeeting16:34
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dhellmannepico: if you have a few minutes to chat about that spec, we could do that in #openstack-oslo16:41
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epicodhellmann: sure16:42
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vipuls#startmeeting cue18:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 22 18:00:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is vipuls. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cue'18:00
vipulsroll call..18:01
vipulso/18:01
esmute__o/18:01
dkallego/18:01
davideagnellohello18:01
abithahello18:01
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vipulsok nice.. let's get started18:01
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vipulssputnik is interviewing someone .. wont' be here18:02
vipuls#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Cue18:02
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vipuls#topic Action Items18:02
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vipuls#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-06-15-18.02.html18:02
harlowjaoh is https://github.com/openstack/cue in yet?18:02
harlowjaoops, sorry, will ask later18:02
vipulsharlowja: we shall see tomorrow ;)18:02
harlowjak18:02
vipulsdavideagnello to follow up on rally job merge, work with Sergey to fix job and ensure it runs on some patches18:02
davideagnelloyes18:03
davideagnellowe uploaded a new patch fixing the issue related to the error we saw last week18:03
davideagnellothe job is now failing at another point further in the process18:03
vipulsis it running tests yet? or still setup issues?18:03
davideagnelloit's not running the tests yet, it is looking for files in a location called:  rally-plot/**18:04
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esmute__davideagnello: what errors are you seeing?18:04
davideagnellothis was as of last thursday, trying to get information from the rally group on what this means as it's not something I was able to find in their CI gate job documentation18:05
davideagnelloNo file(s) found: rally-plot/**18:05
davideagnello‘rally-plot/extra/index.html’ doesn’t match anything: even ‘rally-plot’ doesn’t exist18:05
vipulsdavideagnello: that may not be the error actually..18:05
davideagnelloit then just fails18:05
vipulsthat's just a side effect of the real failure18:06
vipulshttp://logs.openstack.org/59/191959/1/experimental/gate-cue-integrate-dsvm-rally/184e871/console.html.gz18:06
vipuls#link http://logs.openstack.org/59/191959/1/experimental/gate-cue-integrate-dsvm-rally/184e871/console.html.gz#_2015-06-18_17_54_35_64718:06
vipuls^ is the real error18:06
davideagnellook, I am looking into this.  Since Thursday last week I haven't had time to look into this problem18:07
esmute__davideagnello: lets work together on this since i did something similar for integration test18:07
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davideagnelloesmute__: sounds good, thanks18:07
vipulsesmute__: davideagnello : the ball's back in our court.. job seems to have set up correctly, missing things in the cue repo18:07
vipuls#action esmute__ and davideagnello to fix the rally gate job and get rally tests running18:08
davideagnellovipuls: let's pull this in into planning18:08
vipulsdavideagnello: feel free to bring it up during planning meeting18:09
davideagnellook18:09
vipulsnext couple of actions are for sputnik13, we'll go through them, if anyone has an update please chime in18:10
vipulssputnik13 to classify https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1450931 and talk with Josh about classifying submitted bugs18:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1450931 in Cue "Readme doc link incorrect" [Undecided,New]18:10
vipulsoh this one Josh barry fixed already18:10
vipuls#action vipuls to link Josh's patch with correct bug number18:10
vipulssputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka18:11
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vipulslooks like that still needs some details :)18:11
vipuls#action sputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka18:11
vipulsok next up..18:11
vipulsdavideagnello to add link and information to v1 API in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/v1-api18:11
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davideagnellothat's done18:12
vipulsnice18:12
vipulssputnik13 to track release of new taskflow version and ensure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190081/ is merged18:12
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vipulsharlowja: taskflow just released right?18:13
harlowjashould have, although i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192343/ is in the pipeline18:13
harlowjaalthough i think cue isn't yet (?) blocking on global-requirements18:14
vipulsd'oh yea.. we're fine for now..18:14
harlowjak, unsure how that works going forward when joining 'openstack' namespace18:14
vipulsHopefully that merges by then ;)18:14
harlowjaya18:14
harlowjanever know how long it will take, ha18:14
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vipulsok cool.. so we'll consider that action closed18:15
vipulsesmute to rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187273/ then run a minimum of 20 rechecks on it by 6/2218:15
vipulsesmute__: how's the tempest job looking?18:15
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harlowjaminumum of 20 rechecks, lol18:15
esmute__Did many rechecks!18:15
harlowjawhy only 20, why not 20018:15
vipulscuz esmute__ would quit18:16
harlowja:)18:16
esmute__it failed 3/20.. and the failure was the same.. The cluster didnt go active becasue of a crash in rabbit18:16
esmute__It seems there is a race condition that prevents the node from accessing the db.18:17
esmute__i created this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/146704518:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1467045 in Cue "Rabbitmq cluster dont become active because of error 'tables_not_present'" [Medium,New]18:17
esmute__Openstack-infra has a similar issue. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173222/18:17
esmute__I spoke to sputnik13.. To resolve this issue would be to bootstrap the first node and then create the other ones18:17
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esmute__anyways.. i think 3/20 is fairly consistent to promote the job to voting18:18
esmute__what are you thoughts?18:18
vipulsesmute__: hmm ok.. that will be an interesting fix given that we just use rabbitmq.conf to configure the cluster18:18
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esmute__vipuls: we will have to modify the flow in this case18:19
esmute__so that the first one gets bootstrap18:19
esmute__currently, we are creating all node in parallel at the same time18:19
vipulsesmute__: Ok -- we should probably raise that as a high priority issue18:20
esmute__ok.18:20
vipulslet's vote18:20
vipuls#startvote Should we make tempest gate voting? Yes, No, Maybe18:20
openstackBegin voting on: Should we make tempest gate voting? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Maybe.18:20
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.18:20
esmute__but do you think the gate is good enough to making voting?18:20
esmute__#vote Yes18:20
esmute__#vote Yes18:21
esmute__#vote of course Yes18:21
openstackesmute__: of course Yes is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, Maybe.18:21
esmute__#vote Yes18:21
vipulseveryone else abstaining ;)18:21
vipulsdavideagnello: abitha dkalleg18:21
esmute__i spend the whole weekending doing recheck every hour18:21
davideagnellonope18:22
dkalleg#vote Maybe18:22
esmute__weekend*18:22
vipulsdamn shouldn't have put maybe in18:22
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abitha#vote Yes18:22
dkalleghaha18:22
esmute__so what is the concern?18:22
dkallegIt's not perfect.18:22
dkallegIt should be.18:22
esmute__dkalleg: it is not perfect because of a bug18:22
davideagnelloworst case we would have to run recheck sometimes, but will give us a good safety net when it caches real issues with checkins18:22
dkallegWe're going to grow to rely on it18:22
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esmute__by the way, cue-coverage and gate-cue-python27 failed more often :p18:23
dkallegI'd be comfortable adding the gate now if the bug becomes a high prio.18:23
dkallegwith fix eta < a week or two18:23
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vipulsesmute__: do you plan to take this on?18:24
esmute__what is 'this'?18:24
vipulsthe 'fix'18:24
vipuls:)18:24
esmute__i spoke to sputnik13... it is not a simple fix..18:24
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esmute__we can talk about it first18:24
vipulsok let's hold off making it voting18:25
vipuls#vote No18:25
esmute__guys... from 20 run, it failed 3 times.18:25
vipuls#endvote18:25
openstackVoted on "Should we make tempest gate voting?" Results are18:25
openstackMaybe (1): dkalleg18:25
openstackYes (2): esmute__, abitha18:25
openstackNo (1): vipuls18:25
esmute__majority wins?18:25
davideagnello#vote yes18:25
vipulsdamn Yes still won ;)18:25
vipulsok you win18:25
vipulsdemocracy and all18:25
davideagnello :)18:25
esmute__im putting a patch to make it voting18:25
vipulsesmute__: let's talk about this before next meeting -- we need to have a plan to fix the actual bug18:26
esmute__vipuls: sounds good.18:26
vipulsOk that's it for action items18:26
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vipuls#topic Big Tent submission18:27
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vipulsOk so the submission is still being discussed..18:27
vipuls#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191173/18:27
vipulsthere is a TC meeting tomorrow where I assume they will say yay or nay (or maybe)18:28
vipulsthe meeting is 1pm PST18:28
vipulss/PST/PDT18:28
esmute__vipuls: is the meeting on irc?18:28
vipulsyessir18:28
davideagnellocool18:28
dkallegexciting!18:28
esmute__#openstack-meeting?18:28
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vipuls#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee18:29
vipulsyep looks like openstack-meeting18:29
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vipulsi got some new comments that i need to address on that patch18:29
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vipulsif no questions.. we'll move on18:30
vipuls#topic Bug scrub18:31
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esmute__vipuls: i gotta go to a dr appt18:31
vipulsi've been in/out last couple of these irc meetings.. do we have any bugs to discuss?18:31
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vipulsesmute__: OK later18:31
davideagnellovipuls: should we go over the bugs marked as critical?18:32
vipulsit looks like there is only 1 bug that's undecided.. and that one already has a patch up18:32
davideagnellook18:33
vipulsdavideagnello: so there is one critical bug that isn't fixed.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/146660918:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1466609 in Cue "user supplied network is not validated before attaching" [Critical,New]18:33
vipulswe can talk about this one if we want?18:33
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davideagnellovipuls: yes, what kind of verification should Cue be doing in this case?18:34
vipulsSo the issue is a user can supply an arbitrary network_id to attach to their cluster, even if they don't own the network18:35
vipulswe will happily attach a port from that network18:35
davideagnellook18:35
vipulsthis is probably not a security issue yet.. but it will be when we allow the user to attach ports from multiple networks18:35
vipulsthey could supply a network owned by another tenant, a network that they have access to, and potentially get to resources owned by the other tenant18:36
vipulsa simple check for now would be to validate they own the network18:36
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vipulsmake sense?18:37
davideagnellook, that makes sense.  we should have this check18:37
vipulsalright any other bugs to discuss?18:37
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vipulsgoing once..18:38
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vipuls#topic Open Discussion18:39
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vipulsanyone have anything they want to bring up?18:40
vipulsweekend escapades... why the greens at the US Open suck...18:40
davideagnellooh yeah, what was up with that?  mostly complaints?18:41
vipulswell the grass is brown..18:41
vipulsok.. man this is a tough crowd :)18:42
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dkallegwhy was the grass brown?18:42
davideagnelloone of the next things that we should be looking to add to Cue is accurate status checking correct?18:43
vipulsdkalleg: i'm not privy to that kinda info.. ;)18:43
abithavipuls:  what will happen after tomorrow's big tent meeting?18:43
vipulsdavideagnello: yes.. our cluster status is inaccurate currently.. we just report that the port is up18:44
vipulswe need to actually check that things are clustered18:44
vipulsdkalleg: has been doing some research on this already.. so hopefully he can report more18:44
davideagnellovipuls: ok18:44
vipulsabitha: good question.. so we if get into the big tent..18:44
vipulsthen one of the things is our code moves from stackforge -> openstack18:44
vipulsso there'll be some things probably breaking like our devstack scripts, etc. we'll need to fix18:45
abithais it based on voting?18:45
vipulsyes, as long as the TC members give up vote.. we're good..18:45
vipulsso far no down votes18:45
vipulsvotes are on that patch i linked18:45
abithaoh thats nice18:46
davideagnelloawesome!18:46
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vipulsok.. thx folks18:47
vipuls#endmeeting18:47
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hogepodge#beginmeeting refstack19:01
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hogepodge#startmeeting refstack19:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 22 19:01:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hogepodge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'refstack'19:01
catherineD|2o/19:01
sslypushenko__o/19:02
hogepodgeHello again everyone. catherineD|2 has asked me to help out again with the meeting this week.19:02
catherineD|2hogepodge: thx19:02
sslypushenko__catherineD|2 Welcome back)19:02
pvanecko/19:02
hogepodge#chair catherineD|219:02
openstackCurrent chairs: catherineD|2 hogepodge19:02
davidlenwello/19:02
Rockygo/19:02
catherineD|2sslypushenko__: thx .. lots to catch up ...19:03
hogepodgeagenda #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-06-2219:03
hogepodgeLet's start with administrative items.19:03
hogepodge#topic New Core Election19:04
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davidlenwellsounds good!  you've seen my nomination on the agenda.19:04
hogepodgeCurrently we don't have enough core members to be as productive as we'd like, especially during vacations.19:04
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hogepodgedavidlenwell: has nominated paul19:04
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* hogepodge seconds nomination19:05
davidlenwellpvaneck: ^^19:05
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* Rockyg agrees but has no vite19:05
davidlenwellvite?19:05
davidlenwelloh .. vote..19:05
* Rockyg ^vite^vote19:05
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davidlenwellcatherineD|2: sslypushenko__ thoughts?19:06
catherineD|2do we vote now or next week?19:06
davidlenwellI think we can be less formal19:06
davidlenwellif nobody objects19:06
sslypushenko__pvaneck has made a huge contribution in Refstack code19:06
catherineD|2+119:06
Rockygworks forme19:07
davidlenwellI think he's in19:07
sslypushenko__So +1 for Paul19:07
davidlenwellI can do the add to the core group if nobody objects19:07
pvaneckhaha thanks guys19:07
hogepodgeI'll open a formal vote. You can vote yes or no using #vote yes|no19:07
sslypushenko__Also I have any objection about Chris nomination19:07
hogepodgesslypushenko__: I would have to decline any nomination19:08
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hogepodgesslypushenko__: I have not contributed enough code directly19:08
catherineD|2hogepodge: too busy?19:08
davidlenwellget some code in there hogepodge ;)19:08
hogepodge:-)19:08
hogepodge#startvote Elect pvaneck as refstack core19:09
openstackUnable to parse vote topic and options.19:09
catherineD|2hogepodge: you have done an amzing job running the porject in the past few weeks ...19:09
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hogepodge#startvote Elect pvaneck as refstack core? yes, no, abstain19:09
openstackBegin voting on: Elect pvaneck as refstack core? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain.19:10
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.19:10
hogepodge#vote yes19:10
sslypushenko__#vote yes19:10
catherineD|2#vote YES19:10
davidlenwell#vote yes19:10
sslypushenko__unanimously)19:10
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pvaneck#vote yes19:11
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hogepodge#endvote19:12
openstackVoted on "Elect pvaneck as refstack core?" Results are19:12
openstackyes (5): sslypushenko__, hogepodge, davidlenwell, pvaneck, catherineD|219:12
hogepodgeCongratulations!19:12
pvaneck:) Will use the +A responsibly19:12
hogepodgeAction item is for core member to update the gerrit acl19:12
RockygI didn't vote because I'm not a core, but I'm +10019:12
davidlenwellI'm already doing that19:13
hogepodgeExcellent19:13
davidlenwellhowever its getting an error ..19:13
davidlenwellwill ping infra to see why19:13
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davidlenwelldone19:13
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davidlenwellI figured it out19:13
hogepodge#topic Relocate RefStack Project19:14
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hogepodgeWe had deferred this topic until catherineD|2 had returned19:14
hogepodgeDiscussing applying as either a big tent OpenStack project, or an infra project.19:14
davidlenwellso the options at the time are .. 1. stay put .. 2. move to infra name space.. or 3. move to openstack namespace19:14
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davidlenwellthere are good arguments for both openstsack and infra19:15
hogepodgeI believe the discussion was more in favor of infra, as it's providing a service to the community rather than being a project others are expected to deploy and host themselves.19:15
hogepodgeBut I could see either way.19:15
hogepodgeOr just stay in refstack.19:15
davidlenwell*stackforge19:15
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catherineD|2definitely not staying ...19:15
hogepodgestackforge19:16
hogepodgethankd davidlenwell :-D19:16
davidlenwellI think infra is a good fit..19:16
Rockyginfra19:16
sslypushenko__If refstack can be used as local service I would prefer openstack  namespace19:16
davidlenwellsince refstack isn't part of the integrated release19:16
* hogepodge is way too eager to hit return without proofreading19:16
sslypushenko__otherwise infra will be fine19:16
davidlenwellhappens to the best of us hogepodge19:16
catherineD|2refstack is very unique ... on one hand it is a service on the other hand vendor can also stand-up a refstack server on premise ... I know IBM does19:17
davidlenwellopenstack might help with that adoption19:17
hogepodgeSame goes for CI too. It's meant to deployed by third parties, but is an infra project.19:17
davidlenwellyea.. okay.. I have changed my mind.. it belongs in openstack19:18
catherineD|2which way is easier to get approval ?19:18
davidlenwellthey're both pretty easy now19:18
davidlenwellwith big tent they are letting everyone in19:19
davidlenwellwith some restrictions.. but im sure we qualify19:19
catherineD|2do we get any special treatment from infra if it is in infra?19:19
davidlenwellno19:19
davidlenwellfrom their perspective its just a namespace.. doesn't actually mean anything19:19
catherineD|2hogepodge: how about we vote?19:20
hogepodgecatherineD|2: ok19:20
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hogepodge#startvote What namespace should RefStack be moved to? OpenStack, Infra, Stackforge19:21
openstackBegin voting on: What namespace should RefStack be moved to? Valid vote options are OpenStack, Infra, Stackforge.19:21
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.19:21
hogepodge#vote Infra19:21
davidlenwell#vote OpenStack19:21
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catherineD|2#vote OpenStack19:21
pvaneck#vote Infra19:21
sslypushenko__#vote OpenStack19:21
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Rockyg#vote infra19:21
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davidlenwellin a tie catherine has to decide19:22
RockygYeah, I'm torn on the location19:22
pvaneckI feel that the primary use case of this project is the infra-hosted refstack.org site19:22
catherineD|2anyone else on this meeting .. krofscheck?19:23
hogepodgeI'll close the voting in two minutes (12:25)19:23
davidlenwellwe can defer till next week if you want more parties present for the vote19:23
pvaneckkrotscheck*19:23
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RockygWould be good to get zehicle input19:23
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krotscheckeh?19:24
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catherineD|2let's defer to next week .. with zehicle: and krotscheck:19:24
davidlenwellkrotscheck: we're voting on what namespace to move the project to19:24
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krotscheckAhhh19:24
krotscheck#abstain19:24
davidlenwellso far we are tied infra/openstack19:24
RockygKewl!19:24
* krotscheck is not strongly enough invested in the project to feel entitled to influence policy19:25
hogepodge#endvote19:25
openstackVoted on "What namespace should RefStack be moved to?" Results are19:25
openstackOpenStack (3): sslypushenko__, catherineD|2, davidlenwell19:25
openstackInfra (3): hogepodge, pvaneck, Rockyg19:25
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davidlenwelltechnically ptl vote is the tie breaker19:25
hogepodgekrotscheck: you've done a lot with the infra deploy puppet modules19:25
davidlenwellbut I also won't object to defering the vote till next week19:25
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hogepodgecatherineD|2: ?19:27
catherineD|2davidlenwell: let's give Rob a vote next week ....19:27
sslypushenko__davidlenwell +119:27
davidlenwellsomeone should talk to him before then and make sure he can attend19:27
hogepodgeWe have a defcore meeting on Wednesdays. We can chat with him then19:28
davidlenwellsounds like a plan19:28
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hogepodgeOn to the next topic?19:28
catherineD|2+119:28
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sslypushenko__+119:28
hogepodge#topic Infra Hosting19:29
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hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188207/19:29
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davidlenwelljeblair: fungi can ya'll review this again please ^^^19:29
hogepodgeI added the spec review to the next infra meeting agenda19:29
davidlenwellgood thinking19:29
hogepodge#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:30
fungihogepodge: yep, we'll bring it up tomorrow as being ready for council voting19:30
fungidavidlenwell: ^19:30
davidlenwellthanks fungi19:30
fungii likely won't have time to go back through it before then anyway19:30
catherineD|2have we decided on 1 vs 2 domains or are we waiting for infra's inputs?19:31
davidlenwellI don't think we decided19:31
davidlenwellthe discussion last week was fairly circular19:31
hogepodgeIn the meantime, can the rest of the team review and post comments, and +1 if they're ok with it? We can iterate a few times before the meeting if we need to.19:31
davidlenwellwe could vote on it19:31
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davidlenwellright now the spec says 2 domains19:31
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hogepodgeOk, start a new vote on that.19:32
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fungiyeah, i _think_ 2 domains is probably going to mean two servers unless we can either get rackspace to bind multiple ip addresses to a server or wrangle a multi-subdomain cert for it19:32
davidlenwellif we are going to change the spec we need to do it today19:32
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hogepodge#startvote Host refstack ui and api on one domain? yes, no19:33
openstackBegin voting on: Host refstack ui and api on one domain? Valid vote options are yes, no.19:33
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.19:33
hogepodge#vote no19:33
davidlenwell#vote no19:33
hogepodge#vote yes19:33
hogepodge(based on fungi information)19:33
catherineD|2#vote yes19:33
Rockyg#vote yes19:34
fungiwell, if you're in favor of having the site and the api on multiple servers, there's no reason we can't have two19:34
hogepodgeto clarify, yes means one domain, no means two19:34
sslypushenko__#vote yes19:34
davidlenwellfungi: thats actually why I want them seperate .. one scales differntly than the other19:34
catherineD|2based on an error that I see with one particular proxy server ... I sometimes lost the CORS header  ... with one domain maybe we can defer this issue to be solved later ..19:35
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hogepodgefungi can't we use vhosts and dns entries with one ip? It's what I do on my own servers.19:35
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fungihogepodge: for separate https sites?19:35
davidlenwellthats how the site is hosted now19:35
davidlenwellbut you need a wild card cert19:35
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davidlenwellwhich doesn't really cost much more19:35
hogepodgefungi yes19:35
fungiwe're not going to use a wildcard cert, though you can do subjectaltname you just need a non-discount ca to sell you one19:36
davidlenwellI see19:36
fungia *.openstack.org wildcard cert is a security risk, since you could host your own review.openstack.org or something if you got your hands on it19:36
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hogepodgeclosing vote at 12:3919:37
fungiand in theory we want to get rid of the refstack.org domain as early as possible in the lifecycle of this app and onto an official openstack.org subdomain name19:37
pvaneck#vote yes19:37
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davidlenwellavast gives a two sub domain cert for free19:37
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fungii thought avast was windows spyware/adware pretending to be a free virus scanner19:38
davidlenwellno19:38
davidlenwellI think thats another group19:38
fungididn't know they branched out into the certificate authority racket19:38
hogepodge#endvote19:39
openstackVoted on "Host refstack ui and api on one domain?" Results are19:39
openstackyes (5): Rockyg, hogepodge, sslypushenko__, pvaneck, catherineD|219:39
openstackno (1): davidlenwell19:39
RockygHmmm19:39
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fungiwell, anyway i can try to get the current ca i've been buying our certs from to do additional subdomains on one if it's needed, or look at switching to a different ca19:40
RockygMight need more discussion after gathering more info19:40
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davidlenwelllooks like we just voted to make it one domain the /api19:41
hogepodgeWe can revisit again, but if infra wants to relocate refstack to refstack.openstack.org that feels like the most compelling argument (although it doesn't preclude a second like refstackapi.openstack.org)19:41
fungior i can put the site on one vm and the api on a separat vm and use one cert for each19:41
Rockygfungi: I like that19:41
davidlenwellSo hogepodge do you want to change the spec or do you want me to do it ?19:41
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davidlenwellshould be changed before tomorrows infra meeting19:41
hogepodgedavidlenwell: do you have time to? I have a huge todo list this afternoon.19:42
davidlenwellhogepodge: I can handle it19:42
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hogepodgedavidlenwell: thanks19:42
davidlenwellI'm also busy .. but its a fast change19:42
catherineD|2davidlenwell: thx19:42
hogepodgeAny more discussion on this?19:42
davidlenwellI'm good with the vote19:43
hogepodge#topic OpenStack ID Auth19:43
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hogepodgesslypushenko__: this is yours19:43
hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176335/19:43
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pvanecklooks like it just needs reviews. I'll review it today19:44
hogepodgeafaik, it just needs review. Everything should be in place19:44
davidlenwellI've reviewed in a few times .. but then he patches it again19:45
davidlenwellwill review again today19:45
sslypushenko__I think this patch is ready19:45
davidlenwellokay.. will review then19:45
catherineD|2will review19:45
sslypushenko__Sure after some reviews19:45
davidlenwellI think it got patched again because of the js linting tests right ?19:45
sslypushenko__Now, with docker scripts it is easy)19:45
davidlenwellahh19:45
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sslypushenko__davidlenwell yeap, linting and unittests19:46
davidlenwellmakes sense19:46
davidlenwellwill review again today19:46
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sslypushenko__You can tested it with openstackid.org19:46
sslypushenko__or with local openstackid19:47
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hogepodgeI'm going to consolidate the rest of the open reviews in to the same topic for the last few minutes of the meeting.19:47
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hogepodge#topic Open Reviews19:47
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hogepodgeSchema Version Handling #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191610/19:48
hogepodgeIs this ready for review pvaneck?19:48
pvaneckyep, just waiting on reviews19:48
sslypushenko__I will review all UI patches19:48
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hogepodgeInsecure SSL Endpoint Flag for Client https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191129/19:49
catherineD|2will review19:49
hogepodgethat one is for running against self-signed certs, etc19:49
hogepodgeI like that it defaults to secure but allows insecure in a standard way.19:49
catherineD|2hogepodge: +119:50
sslypushenko__yes. It is necessary, because docker scripts deploy refstack under ssl19:50
catherineD|2I will test that feature ...19:50
hogepodgeTest Auto Watch Target https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188835/19:50
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hogepodgeI think this one is just waiting on more core reviews19:50
catherineD|2I think davidlenwell: or I should +2 and merge this one19:51
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catherineD|2hogepodge: :-)19:51
hogepodgeUI Update for Capability Versions #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183397/19:51
davidlenwellI just merged it catherineD|219:51
hogepodgeanother UI patch19:51
catherineD|2davidlenwell: thx19:52
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hogepodgeneeds reviews19:52
catherineD|2will review19:52
davidlenwellI'm taking off now .. my son needs lunch19:52
hogepodgeIt's been around since June 519:52
hogepodgedavidlenwell: thanks! Enjoy!19:52
hogepodge#topic open discussion19:53
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catherineD|2Eavesdrop in Refstack channel discussion last week ...19:53
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hogepodgeThanks catherineD|2, I missed that topic.19:54
hogepodge#topic Eavesdrop in Refstack channel19:54
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catherineD|2what would be the next step?19:55
hogepodgeSubmit a review to infra that adds the bot to the channel.19:55
sslypushenko__It will be helpful19:55
RockygIt also comes with the big tent, but we'd need to rename to openstack-refstack19:56
Rockygwhich makes sense19:57
catherineD|2++19:57
sslypushenko__+119:57
hogepodgeIt's my action item. I'l lcarry it forward.19:57
hogepodge#action hogepodge set up eavesdrop for refstack channel19:57
catherineD|2hogepodge: thank you!  that would be very helpful with vacation ....19:57
hogepodgeAny other items?19:58
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catherineD|2I am good ..19:58
hogepodgeThanks for another great week everybody.19:58
RockygThanks!19:58
hogepodgeas usual, more discussion can be had in #refstack channel19:58
catherineD|2thank you so much hogepodge: for running very effective meetings .... we got a lot done ...19:59
sslypushenko__Thx!19:59
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hogepodge#endmeeting19:59
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redrobot#startmeeting barbican19:59
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 22 19:59:49 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'barbican'19:59
redrobot#topic Roll Call20:00
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jvrbanaco/20:00
woodster_o/20:00
dave-mccowano/20:00
elmikoheyo/20:00
jaosorioro/20:00
hockeynuto/20:00
silos1o/20:00
jkfGreetings20:00
rm_worko/20:00
redrobotNice!  Lots of barbicaneers here today!20:00
redrobotAs usual, the agenda for the meeting can be found here:20:01
redrobot#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican20:01
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redrobotEveryone is encouraged to add agenda items ahead of time.   Otherwise we end up with meetings like today, where I make up topics as I go along :-P20:01
elmikohehe, was gonna say that agenda needs some love ;)20:02
redrobotelmiko hehe indeed20:02
elmikoi have some minor castellan and barbican/fedora updates20:02
redrobotelmiko noted.20:02
kfarro/20:02
jaosorioras long as we don't end up talking about the weather, it's alright :P20:02
elmikolol20:02
redrobot#topic Action items from previous meeting20:03
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redrobot#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-06-15-19.59.html20:03
redrobotFirst action item was for me to look into the container-acl spec for a possible Google hangout this week20:03
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redrobotBut I didn't actually start reviewing until today when kfox1111 poked me about it20:03
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redrobotstill half-way through, I think it would be good for others to chime in on it.20:04
redrobot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190404/320:04
redrobotI don't think we need a hangout just yet though20:04
redrobotnext item20:04
redrobotwas also for me to look into Kite status20:04
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redrobotI sent an email to Jamie Lennox about it, but I haven't heard back from him yet20:05
redrobotJamie being the main driver/contributor for Kite20:05
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jaosoriorredrobot: I don't think there's much work going on regarding kite :/20:05
redrobotbut I'll update you guys when I hear back from him.20:05
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redrobotjaosorior indeed.  Last I heard he was re-tasked on something else20:05
redrobotso that does it for the action items from last week20:06
redrobotmoving on20:06
redrobot#topic liberty-120:06
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redrobot#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule20:06
redrobotLiberty Milestone 1 is due this week.  Preferably tomorrow.20:06
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redrobottons of bugfixes are going into it20:07
redrobot#link https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/liberty-120:07
redrobotbut we're a little light on blueprints20:07
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redrobotalthough I think one bp from jaosorior is close to landing20:08
redrobotin any case it's just a milestone release, so it will be fine if it goes out with only the one feature20:08
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jaosoriorwell... in theory two bps, just need reviewers ;)20:09
redrobotjaosorior links?20:09
redrobotjaosorior it would be good to drop them here in case some of our awesome reviewers want to tune out of the meeting ;)20:09
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jaosoriorThis one has been there for a while https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178601/ ; already had 3 +2s, but decided to fix a minor issue on the last minute20:10
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jaosoriorand now it's back to....not being reviewed20:10
elmiko=(20:10
redrobotyeah, that's been pending review for 10 weeks :(20:10
jaosoriorand these two https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194157/2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194283/20:11
redrobotAlso, please please please review the spec CRs20:11
redrobotat the last Summit we made it a goal to get all the specs reviewed by l-120:11
redrobotand we didn't quite make it20:11
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redrobotliberty-2 is going to be a hard deadline for specs, but it would be awesome if we can get stuff landed before then.20:12
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woodster_redrobot: some of the tls blueprints are pending Ade returning from vacation to finalize them...hopefully landing next week20:13
redrobotwoodster_ thanks for the reminder20:13
redrobotAde asked me to shepherd his blueprints while he's on vacation20:13
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redrobotso if you have a negative vote on any of his specs, please ping me for an update20:13
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* redrobot makes a note to go check on Ade's blueprints for negative votes20:14
redrobotany questions/comments about liberty-1?20:14
woodster_Just agitating on arunkant's behalf the quota bp (just workflow needed)20:15
woodster_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159938/20:15
redrobotok, moving on20:15
redrobot#topic Castellan20:16
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redrobotelmiko tag. you're it!20:16
elmikook20:16
elmikoi have drafted this bp20:16
elmikohttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/castellan/+spec/improved-configuration-options20:16
elmikooops20:16
elmiko#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/castellan/+spec/improved-configuration-options20:16
elmikoand i have a poc working locally for it, i need to generate some docs and some tests and i think it will be ready for review20:17
elmikoalthough i might make it 2-3 reviews to make it easier on the eyes.20:17
ekarlso /buffer 2520:17
redrobotelmiko awesome!20:17
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elmikothere are no specs yet for castellan, so i tried to be verbose in the bp. which might be a little unsusal, but i'd appreciate any feedback folks have =)20:18
woodster_elmiko: +1 that is nice!20:18
kfarrThanks elmiko!20:18
redrobotI'll have to go add a liberty series to the launchpad page, so we can track it.20:18
elmiko=)20:18
redrobot#action redrobot to add liberty series to castellan20:18
elmikothat was all i had for castellan20:18
redrobotthanks elmiko20:18
redrobot#topic Barbican in Fedora20:19
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elmikohehe20:19
elmikosooo20:19
elmikoi've been looking at the rpm patch that xaeth has put together20:19
elmikoand i'm working on some startup/shutdown scripts to use with systemd20:19
elmikosadly, i'm running into issues with the way barbican.sh does this20:19
elmikobasically the start is fine20:19
elmikobut the stop does a `killall uwsgi`, essentially20:20
elmikowhich is not gonna fly for a fedora package20:20
jaosoriorwoodster_: I haven't +2ed arunkant's audit bp because of the lack of testing specification, that's the only reason20:20
elmikoso, i'm looking into something with recording the pid and using that to kill the uwsgi process. but,20:20
elmikoi'd be curious to hear if anyone else has ideas about this?20:20
elmikoalso curious if barbican upstream would want the scripts when i finish?20:20
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jaosoriorelmiko: Would probably be useful, even if we keep them in the "contrib" folder or something of the sort20:21
woodster_elmiko: I'd be all for a revamping of the barbican.sh script...as would a legion of others :)20:21
elmikook, cool20:21
jkfelmiko: I don't use barbican.sh and have my systemd unit start uwsgi directly.20:21
elmikoi am also working on something more openstacky for the barbican.cli scripts but that's a ways out20:22
jkfuwsgi has systemd integration, so systemd can handle it directly.20:22
elmikojkf: cool, i would love to talk more about that if you have time20:22
redrobotI would be on board for a barbican.sh revamp, as well as dropping uwsgi from the rpm deps20:22
elmikoawesome, i hadn't gotten to that point yet20:22
woodster_elmiko: I thought we had removed uwsgi from teh barbican rpm?20:22
jkfelmiko: sure thing.20:22
jaosoriorelmiko: at least the barbican-db-manage should be quite straight forward20:23
elmikowoodster_: i think so, but for a standalone installation it will still need some sort of wsgi server, uwsgi/gunicorn/etc...20:23
jaosoriorto... openstack....ize20:23
redrobotelmiko I think that the Debian folks really want httpd support20:23
elmikoso, if i just have a fedora system, and i want to `yum install openstack-barbican`, i need a script to start it20:23
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DavieyHey, i have a change about moving the scripts (except barbican.sh) in gerrit into the module20:23
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elmikoredrobot: so do we, for the RDO/OSP products20:24
elmikoDaviey: awesome, link?20:24
Davieyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/193208/20:24
DavieyIt isn't perfect, but a step in the right direction.20:24
redrobotI would definitely +2 a change that s/uwsgi/httpd/20:24
elmikovery cool, i'll take a look Daviey20:24
Davieyta20:24
jaosoriorDaviey: reviewing20:25
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woodster_Daviey: I think we've just moved to empty __init__ files now20:25
Davieywoodster_: I thought all files had to have the header?20:25
woodster_Daviey: otherwise this is good stuff.20:25
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redrobotelmiko anything else on the Fedora front?20:27
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woodster_Daviey: we've been using blank __init__ of late...but maybe that has changed back to header based now?20:27
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* redrobot thinks elmiko got distracted with a review20:29
redrobotok, moving on20:29
redrobotany other topics we should talk about?20:29
redrobot#topic Open Discussion20:30
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elmiko__sorry, had a bad net thingie20:30
redrobotelmiko__  no worries20:30
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redrobotso now would be a good time to post links to pending reviews that need attention20:31
elmiko__was gonna say, Daviey that patch looks good to me. my only suggestion would be to make the package named barbican.cli instead of barbican.cmd to be more explicit. otherwise, i'll give it a try locally.20:31
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Davieyelmiko: ok, i can change that20:32
jaosoriorhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/178601/ well, again, I would REALLY like that people check this one out :/20:32
* redrobot pinky promises to reivew jaosorior 's CR20:33
elmiko__jaosorior: i added that to my review queue ;)20:33
woodster_elmiko__: I think 'cmd' is how I've seen other projects handle this20:33
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jaosoriorwoodster_: If you have time to check the above CR, you had a +2 there before20:33
elmiko__woodster_: lol, i've seen cli as well20:34
jaosorioraaaand this one only needs a workflow :D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194157/220:34
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elmiko__woodster_: either way though, it's not a -1 for me. just a stylistic thing20:34
redrobotlooks like kfarr already reviewed that last one... maybe she can just +W right away?20:35
jaosoriorwoodster_, Daviey, elmiko__: Well... keystone has cmd... honestly I don't think that folder namingg is a big deal20:35
kfarrMy first workflow!20:35
redrobotkfarr \o/20:35
elmiko__yay!20:35
woodster_kfarr: nice!20:35
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woodster_jaosorior: done20:36
elmiko__jaosorior: agreed, not a big deal. i was just adding my $0.0220:36
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elmiko__=)20:36
jaosoriorkfarr: http://funny-pics.co/wp-content/uploads/HighFiveLikeABoss.jpg20:36
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woodster_elmiko__: I still have memories from the incubation process...don't like to stray too far from the openstack fold :)20:36
jaosoriorwoodster_: Thanks dude! :D20:36
elmiko__woodster_: i hear ya, i don't think its a big deal, i just think cli is more clear20:37
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* redrobot agrees with elmiko__ 20:38
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jkfI've got a quick update on the symantec ca plugin.20:38
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redrobot#topic Symantec CA20:38
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redrobotjkf go ahead20:38
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jkfI'm not sure how the conversation went outside of my pervue, but a scope document its way to the product manager of the trust services group at Symantec.20:39
redrobotjkf progress is good!20:39
jkfand based on the work in the scope doc, we're looking to get a developer from that org to do the development of the plugin.20:40
jkfBased on those estimates, I don't have nearly the time to do the work myself on a community basis, but they want to look at doing it as part of the product development.20:40
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jkfSo they're still trying to identify who can do so, and I've offered my assistance to get them up to speed once they do.20:41
jkfUnfortunately, with my deployment being my top priority, its meant I haven't had a whole lot of time to put into the plugin yet. :(20:41
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jkfSo, that's where we stand with the ca plugin at the moment.20:42
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redrobotjkf awesome, thanks for the udpate20:43
redrobotupdate even20:43
redrobotanything else y'all?20:43
silos1I proposed a new spec today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194298/ Really interested in seeing what people think about it.20:43
redrobotif not we can have our 15 min back.20:44
redrobotah yes, I think kfarr and rellerreller will be interested in that one silos120:44
silos1redrobot: cool20:44
kfarrsilos1 cool, adding it to my queue20:44
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silos1kfarr: :) thx20:45
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redrobotalrighty...  seems like we're done early today.20:46
redrobotthanks everyone for coming!20:46
elmikothanks redrobot20:46
redrobotDon't forget to add topics to the wiki for next week!20:46
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redrobot#endmeeting20:46
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