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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 16 15:00:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hi | 15:00 |
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| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
| u_glide | hi | 15:00 |
| ganso_ | hello | 15:00 |
| csaba | hi | 15:00 |
| rraja | hi | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:00 |
| bswartz | looks like short agenda again | 15:01 |
| xyang3 | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | I know it's vacation season and many people are in and out of the office | 15:01 |
| cFouts | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic Midcycle Meetup | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Midcycle Meetup (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
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| bswartz | so the meetup is 2 weeks away! | 15:02 |
| lpabon | o/ | 15:02 |
| bswartz | I haven't heard from anyone who can travel so I'm assuming that it will be another mostly-remote midcycle meetup | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-liberty-midcycle-meetup | 15:02 |
| markstur | hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | I would still like to know who is joining remotely | 15:02 |
| bswartz | please add your names to the etherpad | 15:03 |
| bswartz | and I'm also looking for more topic proposals | 15:03 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: can you add meeting start and end time there also | 15:03 |
| bswartz | there is plenty to talk about with all of the features we're currently working on, but I suspect not enough to fill up 2 days | 15:03 |
| bswartz | xyang3: good idea | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | I was thinking 1300-2100 UTC | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | which is the same we did for the winter meetup | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | we could shorten that time if there aren't enough agenda topics | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | I've added the stuff I think it's important to talk about, but those topics probably only fill half the time | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | by next week I'll want to have scheduled times for each topic so if there aren't any new topic proposals I'll just make each day shorter | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | markstur: I just realized those times are really bad for you | 15:07 |
| markstur | bswartz, It's OK | 15:07 |
| markstur | I can just get up early 2 days | 15:08 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:08 |
| markstur | I think that worked well last time. Better than going so late that people drop off | 15:08 |
| bswartz | okay so that's all I have on the midcycle | 15:08 |
| markstur | Actually last time. Nobody showed up for the late sessions | 15:08 |
| bswartz | please sign up if you're attending -- I'll send an ML post too | 15:08 |
| bswartz | #action bswartz to send ML reminder about midcycle etherpad | 15:08 |
| bswartz | #topic Python 3 support | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Python 3 support (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:09 | |
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| bswartz | so people have asked me when we're going to support python 3 | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | the rest of openstack seems to be making significant progress | 15:09 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: yeah, we should add py3 unit tests job first | 15:10 |
| bswartz | Most other projects have a gate-python34 job | 15:10 |
| bswartz | any reason we can't just add gate-manila-python34? are there known bugs? | 15:10 |
| lpabon | cool | 15:10 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: we can | 15:10 |
| lpabon | most likely we won't know until we try | 15:10 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: sure, as non-voting until stabilization | 15:11 |
| u_glide | lpabon: +1 | 15:11 |
| xyang3 | +1 | 15:11 |
| bswartz | any volunteers to add the job? | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | lpabon: you didn't wait long enough! | 15:11 |
| lpabon | lol | 15:11 |
| lpabon | :-D | 15:11 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is easy, I can do it | 15:12 |
| bswartz | okay well it shouldn't be too hard | 15:12 |
| bswartz | just needs to be nonvoting initially | 15:12 |
| bswartz | and after we have the job someone will need to file bugs for any detected issues | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I know we spend some effort ensuring py3 compatibility even though we don't actively test it | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | my opinion is that we don't need to be leaders in py3 support, but we don't want to get too far behind the rest of openstack in that area | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | incidentally I feel the same way about ipv6 support | 15:13 |
| bswartz | the lack of ipv6 support in openstack is a travesty, but I don't think this team's job is to go out and fix everything required to make it work | 15:14 |
| bswartz | we should just make sure manila supports ipv6 | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:15 | |
| bswartz | that's all I had for today | 15:15 |
| bswartz | anyone have something else they want to discuss | 15:15 |
| bswartz | ? | 15:15 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: VNX CI started to report | 15:15 |
| bswartz | xyang3: :D | 15:15 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: although there are still lots of failures | 15:15 |
| bswartz | cool | 15:15 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: do you want us to turn it off until the failures are fixed | 15:16 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: otherwise it looks ugly | 15:16 |
| bswartz | yes that reminds me I still owe several of you a 1on1 discussion about CI status | 15:16 |
| bswartz | expect emails in the next week | 15:16 |
| bswartz | xyang3: up to you | 15:16 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: ok, CI for Isilon is in progress | 15:17 |
| bswartz | if it has a good chance of succeeding, leave it on -- if it's going to fail for sure, maybe turn off reporting | 15:17 |
| bswartz | HP CI seems to have dropped off the radar | 15:17 |
| xyang3 | ok | 15:17 |
| bswartz | it was reporting and now it's not | 15:17 |
| markstur | Yes | 15:17 |
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| markstur | We had network changes and a lot of instability so it's not reporting. | 15:17 |
| markstur | Should be back though. | 15:17 |
| bswartz | markstur: that's cool -- HP is still well ahead of the deadlines | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | thanks xyang3, markstur | 15:18 |
| markstur | Yeah. I went thru what xyang was saying about whether to turn it off | 15:18 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: we should talk about required features at the mid cycle? I don't think we settle it down yet | 15:18 |
| markstur | It actually is easier to track when it is on. There is that nice report. | 15:18 |
| bswartz | xyang3: please add a proposal | 15:18 |
| xyang3 | ok | 15:18 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: that affects CI as well, so we know what tests are required and what can be skipped | 15:19 |
| bswartz | yes it's something we should decide for sure | 15:20 |
| bswartz | and by "we" I mean I don't want to dictate the minimum feature list, I want the community to agree | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | xyang3: are there any features in particular you have questions about? | 15:21 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: like readonly | 15:21 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: I know Isilon doesn't have it yet | 15:21 |
| bswartz | the most common question I get is whether snapshots are required, and I find it really hard to imagine allowing manila without snapshots | 15:21 |
| ganso_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-minimum-driver-requirements | 15:21 |
| bswartz | xyang3: I had assumed it was required, but that's worth a discussion | 15:22 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: I think if a feature is required, we should list that in wiki shortly after the summit | 15:22 |
| markstur | It seems a lot of drivers have "limitations" | 15:23 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: I'm saying it is late to add a requirement now for liberty | 15:23 |
| vponomaryov | xyang3: why wiki? I guess it is better to have "doc" describing it | 15:23 |
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| xyang3 | vponomaryov: some sort of official doc | 15:23 |
| markstur | I think at least some of those should become "capabilities" so we can just have a way to deal with what features to expect | 15:23 |
| xyang3 | early on | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | ganso_: thanks for the link | 15:24 |
| bswartz | the plan for minimum features is to get them into the official developer docs | 15:24 |
| bswartz | minimum features have been informal for a long time | 15:25 |
| ganso_ | I thought shrink share was optional... | 15:25 |
| bswartz | having the list in the manila repo (which is where the dev docs are) will help I think | 15:25 |
| xyang3 | ganso_: +1 | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | xyang3: about requirement for RO - generic driver supports only RW for CIFS | 15:26 |
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| vponomaryov | xyang3: so, I guess, we should require only RW | 15:26 |
| xyang3 | vponomaryov: ok, so that can't be required then | 15:26 |
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| xyang3 | vponomaryov: ok. I thought that is tested in tempest | 15:26 |
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| lpabon | yeah i agree that this should not only be a doc but also part of some ci | 15:27 |
| bswartz | I'd like to require read-only support | 15:27 |
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| ganso_ | bswartz: but generic driver cannot do it for CIFS | 15:27 |
| bswartz | but if there's a good reason it can't be implemented in certain cases then we have to find a way to communicate to the end user whether a share can support RO or not | 15:27 |
| markstur | But I think it varies by protocol access-type... | 15:27 |
| bswartz | ganso_: it cannot do it currently, but that doesn't mean it can never be done | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | it would be simpler to find a way to make it work in all cases and then say it's just a required feature | 15:28 |
| bswartz | optional features are always more messy | 15:28 |
| markstur | I think we should look into reporting capabilities so a share type can get the behavior it expects, but we don't have to pull a driver because it is different | 15:28 |
| xyang3 | bswart: so we need to have Liberty minimum requirements vs min requirements for the next release | 15:28 |
| markstur | Agree with the messy comment | 15:29 |
| bswartz | I agree | 15:29 |
| bswartz | just because we intend to make a new feature required doesn't mean everyone has to implement it immediately -- there can be some time delay | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | although the deadlines for when new features will be required is also something that needs to be agreed upon and clearly communicated | 15:31 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: +1 | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | alright if there's nothing else we can end early today | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: maybe we should use some tagging for drivers? | 15:32 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: tagging for what features are supported? | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: by features or group of features | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: all-required | 15:32 |
| bswartz | if we agree features should be optional, then yes | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: incubating | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | etc | 15:32 |
| markstur | vponomaryov, Good idea. Some master feature matrix at least | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | oh I see what you mean | 15:32 |
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| vponomaryov | all new drivers that does not have CI will have "incubating" or "sand-box" tag | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | s/does/do/ | 15:33 |
| markstur | After the deadline plan. Next we'd need a what to do with drivers that "can't" comply | 15:33 |
| bswartz | yeah, the way I'd like to see it done, is that compliance with a new feature should be covered by tempest tests, and the group of tempest tests should be skippable as long as the feature is optional | 15:34 |
| markstur | I think tags sound better than moving them to stackforge | 15:34 |
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| xyang3 | stackforge? | 15:34 |
| markstur | or to unofficial repos | 15:34 |
| bswartz | once a feature becomes required it should no longer be skippable and backends that can't pass those tests need to do something | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | markstur: there is no requirement to something new in stackforgeanymore, AFAIK | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | to * have * | 15:34 |
| bswartz | last I head, the plan was to delete stackforge and move everything to openstack namespace | 15:35 |
| markstur | I mean if a driver cannot do snapshots. Do we remove it. Where will it go. | 15:35 |
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| markstur | It'll go somewher unofficial (let's say github) | 15:35 |
| bswartz | markstur: that's not our problem | 15:35 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: really? then we'll have thousands of projects | 15:35 |
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| markstur | Unless we have a way to tag it "sand-box", etc... | 15:35 |
| bswartz | xyang3: it what I see discussed in TC/infra meetings | 15:36 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: wow | 15:36 |
| bswartz | markstur: deleted drivers remain in the git history -- and they can be released any number of ways for users that want them | 15:36 |
| vponomaryov | xyang3: our manila-image-elements project appeared in "openstack" namespace at once | 15:36 |
| bswartz | I don't think this team should have an opinion on how drivers are released if they're not part of upstream -- personally I think out-of-tree drivers are harmless but should not be encouraged | 15:37 |
| xyang3 | vponomaryov: that is still a manila sub project. I'm not sure what happens to all the projects in general | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | xyang3: it is there because of reason bswartz described | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | xyang3: not because of manila is master-project | 15:38 |
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| bswartz | for those interested in the stackforge/openstack thing read the TC meeting minutes -- it has to do with the "big tent" concept and because infra is annoyed at having to rename projects from stackforge to openstack periodically | 15:39 |
| bswartz | renaming projects is highly disruptive and serves no purpose other than to draw a boundary between an in-crowd and an out-crowd | 15:39 |
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| xyang3 | bswartz: I'm just wondering if we can find a place to host a summit any more in the future, to fit in thousands of projects | 15:40 |
| markstur | Vegas | 15:40 |
| xyang3 | markstur :) | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | I don't think that suddenly every project in the openstack namespace gets time at the summit -- that's managed separately | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | this is just limited to the naming of the repos | 15:41 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: ok, let's see | 15:41 |
| bswartz | okay we're pretty off-topic now | 15:41 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone I think we're done | 15:41 |
| markstur | FYI -- I'm out-of-office tomorrow and next week. | 15:41 |
| markstur | I'll try to stay in touch to follow-up on reviews, but not sure how well that will work. | 15:41 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 15:41:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-07-16-15.00.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-07-16-15.00.txt | 15:42 |
| bswartz | okay markstur thanks | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-07-16-15.00.log.html | 15:42 |
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| xarses | #startmeeting fuel | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 16 16:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| xarses | #chair xarses | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: xarses | 16:00 |
| sbog_ | hi all | 16:00 |
| xarses | Todays Agenda: | 16:00 |
| xarses | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:00 |
| mihgen | hi | 16:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 16:00 |
| xarses | Who's here? | 16:00 |
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| mattymo | hi! | 16:00 |
| ikalnitsky | o/ | 16:00 |
| bogdando | hi | 16:01 |
| vkramskikh | hi | 16:01 |
| rmoe | hi | 16:01 |
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| agordeev | hi | 16:01 |
| alex_didenko | hi | 16:01 |
| jkirnosova | hi | 16:01 |
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| xarses | ok, lets get started | 16:01 |
| angdraug | o/ | 16:01 |
| xarses | #topic Node role as a plugin (ikalnitsky) | 16:01 |
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| ikalnitsky | hey guys | 16:01 |
| ikalnitsky | last week i showed the demo, and it seems the feature works fine. though, not all patches are in master | 16:02 |
| ikalnitsky | we have finally merged the patch that combined deployment tasks with core ones | 16:02 |
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| ikalnitsky | so feel free to use it, you now can inject some deployment tasks for existing roles | 16:02 |
| ikalnitsky | the most important patches are: | 16:03 |
| ikalnitsky | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200129/ | 16:03 |
| ikalnitsky | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199573/ | 16:03 |
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| ikalnitsky | we have worked on improving them and covering with tests | 16:03 |
| ikalnitsky | now, they are readym and should me reviewed and merged | 16:03 |
| ikalnitsky | when it's done, i think we could say "the feature is in master" | 16:03 |
| xarses | ikalnitsky: are they any blockers, or issues to raise? | 16:04 |
| ikalnitsky | nope | 16:04 |
| mihgen | do we have an agreement who will help with reviews? | 16:04 |
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| ikalnitsky | i think it would be as always - python team | 16:04 |
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| ikalnitsky | i think sebasian, alex kislitsky, and co | 16:04 |
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| ikalnitsky | and yeas, the patches were tested by qa | 16:05 |
| mihgen | we are closer and closer to FF, everyone is busy | 16:05 |
| mihgen | so that's why you guys all need to be in sync.. who helps where and when | 16:05 |
| ikalnitsky | i'd kindly ask them :) don't worry, they are actually small.. the most lines are tests | 16:05 |
| mihgen | ok :) | 16:05 |
| mihgen | thanks! This would be real step forward with plugable arch | 16:06 |
| mihgen | will* | 16:06 |
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| mihgen | xarses: moving on? | 16:06 |
| ikalnitsky | xarses, moving one? | 16:06 |
| ikalnitsky | s/one/on | 16:06 |
| xarses | #topic Aligning LP groups with bugfixing confirmation queues (adidenko) | 16:06 |
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| alex_didenko | We need to align LP fuel-* groups with our teams and bug confirmation queues/duties. For instance https://launchpad.net/~fuel-astute/+members#active group has only 2 members, so there could be problems with bugs assigned to such groups. | 16:07 |
| alex_didenko | that's my concern :) | 16:07 |
| mihgen | yeah I saw email at openstack-dev, let's drop this group | 16:07 |
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| mihgen | if we have any other which you feel needs to be modified - let's just go ahead and propose in openstack-dev | 16:08 |
| alex_didenko | and will assign bugs related to astute to fuel-python, right? | 16:08 |
| xarses | are there others that have this problem? | 16:08 |
| mihgen | then if we do it once consensus is reached | 16:08 |
| bogdando | and this also applies probably to the MOS sustaining Fuel build teams | 16:08 |
| mihgen | yep, fuel-python | 16:08 |
| mihgen | it's not ideal but we can rename it later (there is some ruby code still ).. | 16:08 |
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| bogdando | these teams are new, and it is not clear how to assign milestones for backports | 16:09 |
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| bogdando | would be nice to see a wiki update | 16:09 |
| mihgen | build is a bit harder though, if it's about make system | 16:09 |
| agordeev | alex_didenko: what about fuel-provisioning? it has only two members too. | 16:09 |
| alex_didenko | xarses: osci maybe? are we going to replace it with build group? | 16:09 |
| mihgen | we don't have many who can undertand make | 16:09 |
| alex_didenko | yeah, fuel-provisioning too | 16:09 |
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| mihgen | agordeev: I'd also kill it too, we can use tags instead | 16:09 |
| mihgen | like "ibp" | 16:09 |
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| mihgen | in order to allow filtration for SMEs | 16:10 |
| bogdando | well, I see no clear rules of milestones assignments for the bug fixes committed to the master of fuel-library. We should clarify teams, members, membership rules here | 16:10 |
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| bogdando | and assignment criteria | 16:10 |
| mihgen | so as you are ibp SME, I'd expect you to look for "ibp" tagged bugs frist | 16:10 |
| xarses | I like the groups because they help know that it's un-assigned, but tags would be best | 16:10 |
| bogdando | a one might forgot to assign a tag, but we always will assign a group | 16:11 |
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| mihgen | so why it's not one group - just because we want to split responsibiltiy between teams, right? And also avoid emails spam | 16:11 |
| alex_didenko | yep | 16:11 |
| mihgen | if you work on puppet, you unlikely want to see UI related bugs | 16:11 |
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| mihgen | so let's just go from here, and suggest adjustments gradually | 16:12 |
| alex_didenko | if we assign a bug to such "phantom" group, it may be lost for some time | 16:12 |
| mihgen | true, that's why let's drop fuel-astute and fuel-provisioning then at first? | 16:12 |
| alex_didenko | +1 | 16:12 |
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| xarses | +1 lets go from there, but it sounds like we don't need the groups any more | 16:14 |
| xarses | lets sum this up and take it back to the ML | 16:14 |
| mihgen | let's separate what we +1 here, and "don't need groups anymore" | 16:14 |
| mihgen | I don't agree with your this last statement | 16:14 |
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| xarses | #action alex_didenko sum up dropping fuel-astute and fuel-provsioning to ML | 16:15 |
| xarses | moving on? | 16:15 |
| alex_didenko | yep | 16:15 |
| xarses | #topic removing classic provisioning (agordeev) | 16:15 |
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| agordeev | Hello folks, | 16:16 |
| agordeev | Since the last week, few blockers have been appeared for QA. | 16:16 |
| agordeev | This one already has been fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1473419 | 16:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1473419 in Fuel for OpenStack "Upgrade failed with version error" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Alexander Kislitsky (akislitsky) | 16:16 |
| agordeev | And the another one is still here https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1474883 | 16:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1474883 in Fuel for OpenStack "Upgrade from 6.1->7.0 failed with error" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Alexander Kislitsky (akislitsky) | 16:16 |
| agordeev | Looks like master node upgrade to 7.0 isn't operatable right now. | 16:16 |
| kozhukalov_ | agordeev, even more, I going to convert upgrade tarball into upgrade package | 16:17 |
| kozhukalov_ | and it is going to change slightly UX and use cases | 16:17 |
| mihgen | wait why do you combine two things | 16:17 |
| kozhukalov_ | I've sent a letter to nurla asking for QA eng to help me here | 16:18 |
| mihgen | upgrade tarball or package should not related to drop of classical proc | 16:18 |
| mihgen | provisioning* | 16:18 |
| mihgen | nurla is on vacation | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov_ | mihgen, yes, it does not relate | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov_ | just want to inform about this | 16:18 |
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| mihgen | agordeev: so you say that once we merged your code we've got these regressions in upgrade? | 16:19 |
| agordeev | mihgen: in order to test the feature, upgrade should be performed | 16:19 |
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| agordeev | mihgen: nope, it doesn't related with my code. | 16:19 |
| mihgen | agordeev: so those blockers are not related to your removal of classic prov? | 16:19 |
| mihgen | why then you posted then in your update, you guys both confused me | 16:20 |
| agordeev | mihgen: those block QA. | 16:20 |
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| mihgen | Ok. the feature (removal) is basically merged, but we can't verify it | 16:20 |
| Tatyanka_Leontov | this issue blocks testing of case: 6.1 with classic prov -> upgrade to 7.0 + add node to 6.1 cluster | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov_ | upgrade does not work at the moment, right? | 16:20 |
| mihgen | is that what you are saying? | 16:20 |
| agordeev | mihgen: yeah, we can't be sure that we could add a new nodes to old env provisioned with classic. | 16:21 |
| agordeev | kozhukalov_: right, it's non working | 16:21 |
| mihgen | ok. I see there is a work on upgrade tarball… I'm quite surprised though that we seem to be just discovered it | 16:22 |
| xarses | after these are fixed, do we expect any other blockers? when do you expect these to be fixed? | 16:22 |
| mihgen | while it was failing since HCF of 6.1, I believe | 16:22 |
| kozhukalov_ | we definitely need to fix it (upgrade), and it looks the best way to fix it is to convert it into rpm and change UX, because anyway we need to change build script for it | 16:22 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov_: I'm not sure about even RPM. If we spend so much effort on this, I question the whole approach | 16:23 |
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| mihgen | may be we should just back up DB, keys, whatever data we have on master | 16:23 |
| agordeev | xarses: no other blockers are expected, if upgrage will work | 16:23 |
| mihgen | then reinstall new version from scratch | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov_ | what is wrong with converting it into rpm? | 16:23 |
| mihgen | and then just restore DB, run migration and that's it | 16:23 |
| mihgen | question is why do we need to support in place upgrade, and spend so much effort on keep it running | 16:24 |
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| mihgen | let's just think about it. RPM is better anyway than tarball, but I'm just even going further | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov_ | anyway, there is a script which makes backups and then restores and does something else, this script can be easily delivered as rpm | 16:24 |
| dpyzhov | mihgen: are you talking about getting rid of upgrades completely? | 16:25 |
| mihgen | And I don't understand how RPM would help in case of the blocker failures we've got | 16:25 |
| mihgen | dpyzhov: no | 16:25 |
| xarses | ok, lets move along here. Can we sumarize what the next steps to fixing this to the ML? | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov_ | mihgen, there is a mail thread in openstack-dev | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov_ | about this change | 16:25 |
| mihgen | I explained workflow of upgrade, manual, not in-place automated | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov_ | let's summarize possible approaches there | 16:25 |
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| mihgen | ok let's move it to openstack-dev… | 16:25 |
| xarses | kozhukalov_: can you take this back to ML? | 16:26 |
| kozhukalov_ | it is even better if we don't need this upgrade script at all | 16:26 |
| mihgen | yeah let's move on guys sorry I'm holding this for too long | 16:26 |
| xarses | #topic flexible networking (akasatkin) | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "flexible networking (akasatkin) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:26 | |
| akasatkin | spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195109/ | 16:26 |
| akasatkin | We have to start 3 more tasks in Nailgun/CLI. | 16:26 |
| akasatkin | Hopefully, start them tomorrow and/or Monday. | 16:26 |
| akasatkin | Other stuff is on review/merged. | 16:26 |
| akasatkin | Library stuff is mostly merged and other is on review. | 16:26 |
| akasatkin | So, implementation performance in Nailgun is under question. | 16:26 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov_: let's continue in openstack-dev | 16:26 |
| akasatkin | We had discussions with other teams about some changes that they need in our implementation (in VIPs and network roles) so additional time maybe required for that stuff. | 16:26 |
| akasatkin | There are problems with ISOs quality which affect our testing performance also. | 16:26 |
| akasatkin | e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1475335 was discovered today (fix merged already, test in progress) | 16:26 |
| akasatkin | Feature demo is planned on Tuesday. | 16:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475335 in Fuel for OpenStack "Environment provisioning fails, can't create boot image: 'Command: debootstrap --verbose --no-check-gpg --arch=amd64 trusty /tmp/tmpCVnqMk.fuel-agent-image http://mirror-pkgs.vm.mirantis.net/pkgs/ubuntu-2015-07-15-170127/' returns 1" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Aleksandr Gordeev (a-gordeev) | 16:26 |
| xarses | #action kozhukalov_ to update ML with next steps for get upgrades to work now that classic prov is removed | 16:27 |
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| mihgen | why do we have regressions like https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1475335 ? Let's work on regressions | 16:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475335 in Fuel for OpenStack "Environment provisioning fails, can't create boot image: 'Command: debootstrap --verbose --no-check-gpg --arch=amd64 trusty /tmp/tmpCVnqMk.fuel-agent-image http://mirror-pkgs.vm.mirantis.net/pkgs/ubuntu-2015-07-15-170127/' returns 1" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Aleksandr Gordeev (a-gordeev) | 16:28 |
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| mihgen | we can't allow master being broken as it immediatelly blocks a number of people.. | 16:28 |
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| mihgen | akasatkin: what do you need under additional time? How close we are to have all the code required on review? | 16:29 |
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| mihgen | I see quite a number of patches on review still: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/templates-for-networking+status:open,n,z | 16:29 |
| kozhukalov_ | mihgen, it is because we removed unnecessary fuel-image package and some of its dependencies were needed by fuel-agent, we added this dependencies into fuel-agent package | 16:29 |
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| akasatkin | we need 3 more patches on review , hopefully, tomorrow or Monday | 16:30 |
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| mihgen | what are those exactly about? | 16:30 |
| mihgen | who will work on them? | 16:30 |
| akasatkin | CLI, VIPs in tepmlates, net-checker | 16:31 |
| mihgen | why do we keep feature in "green" then this week…. ? It should be rather yellow if not red as from what I hear .. | 16:31 |
| akasatkin | Ivan Kliuk, Ryan Moe, Alex Saprykin | 16:31 |
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| mihgen | If we don't have time for net-checker, then we will have to sacrifice it | 16:32 |
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| mihgen | and keep net-checker working only for old schema | 16:32 |
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| akasatkin | yes, it's the biggest part, apparently | 16:32 |
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| xarses | are they any other blockers / issues ? | 16:33 |
| mihgen | ideally to fix net-checker as soon as possible afterwards, and possible to put a package someone in our repos, so users can try it later | 16:33 |
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| xarses | does it look like we will be done in time for FF? | 16:33 |
| mihgen | if CLI is ok for exception from FF, then VIPs are not much I would say | 16:33 |
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| mihgen | can we focus on VIPs then to make it 100% to master by FF | 16:34 |
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| akasatkin | looks, we should be ok with other stuff (excluding net-checker). cli and vips are rather small tasks | 16:34 |
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| akasatkin | yes | 16:34 |
| mihgen | akasatkin: it is so important to get it by FF, we've got a tone of bugs to fix too…. | 16:34 |
| mihgen | what about library part? | 16:34 |
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| mihgen | all those network roles, etc.? | 16:35 |
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| mihgen | xenolog: xarses: ? | 16:35 |
| xarses | mihgen: alot is on review, nova compute may be at risk | 16:35 |
| akasatkin | xenolog works on nova/migration task which is absolutely required, | 16:35 |
| xarses | we need help to get reviewed and merge | 16:35 |
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| mihgen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194438/ | 16:36 |
| mihgen | this one hangs over there for about a month | 16:36 |
| mihgen | we need to put other tasks aside and finish this | 16:36 |
| xarses | it was a eary hack that has been updated to current scheme in the last 1.5 week | 16:37 |
| xarses | I needed to show the interface to someone else, which is why it was so old | 16:37 |
| xarses | also I had wrong tag on it | 16:37 |
| mihgen | so when do we expect to finish this work on ceph? | 16:37 |
| xarses | today, monday at the latest | 16:38 |
| mihgen | any other role at threat of not being done by FF? | 16:38 |
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| akasatkin | no, apparently | 16:38 |
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| mihgen | let's ensure we do extensive testing on what was separated… to ensure there is no surprises :) | 16:39 |
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| mihgen | xarses: thanks sounds good, we will need to get it reviewed and merged though.. | 16:39 |
| akasatkin | sure | 16:39 |
| mihgen | ok thanks akasatkin | 16:39 |
| xarses | moving on? | 16:40 |
| mihgen | yep | 16:40 |
| xarses | #topic sorters and filters in UI (jkirnosova) | 16:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sorters and filters in UI (jkirnosova) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:40 | |
| jkirnosova | Hi all! just wanted to mention we've merged Fuel UI features: node compact view and node list sorting and filtering. So, any of your feedback is desirable. This will help us (UI team) to improve the features UX. You can write it directly to #fuel-ui chat or create tickets in Launchpad | 16:40 |
| jkirnosova | tha's all i wanted to say) | 16:40 |
| jkirnosova | that's * | 16:40 |
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| xarses | jkirnosova: I saw the new layout it looks great | 16:41 |
| mihgen | jkirnosova: thanks!! | 16:41 |
| mihgen | do you have someone from QA going over Fuel UI manually? | 16:41 |
| jkirnosova | yep, Nastya Palkina tested custom ISOs before we merged the features | 16:41 |
| mihgen | ok cool, thanks | 16:42 |
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| mihgen | xarses: moving? | 16:42 |
| xarses | #topic re-enable rabbitmq admin plugin to support fixing LP#1383258 (mwhahaha) | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "re-enable rabbitmq admin plugin to support fixing LP#1383258 (mwhahaha) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:42 | |
| mwhahaha | We have a bug about not properly restoring non-default users/vhosts/etc in rabbitmq (LP#1383258) which may require re-enabling the admin management plugin for rabbitmq. | 16:42 |
| mwhahaha | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1383258 | 16:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1383258 in Fuel for OpenStack 7.0.x "RabbitMQ do not keep non-default users/vhosts/etc after failover" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Alex Schultz (alex-schultz) | 16:42 |
| mwhahaha | It was previously disabled to address a possible security issue related to this plugin which seemed to be an html issue. | 16:42 |
| mwhahaha | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179032/ | 16:42 |
| mwhahaha | Would it be acceptable to re-enable it but limit access to only localhost? There does not appear to be another way to dump/restore rabbitmq users without this plugin. It should be noted that we still have this plugin enabled on the fuel-master. | 16:42 |
| mwhahaha | Or is anyone aware of an alternative way to backup and restore these items for rabbitmq? | 16:43 |
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| mihgen | mwhahaha: I would be fine with localhost only | 16:43 |
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| mihgen | if it's simplest thing to do to help in such cases, my opinion is why not | 16:44 |
| bogdando | I suggest to re-enable this plugin and address the sec. issue by restricting access to the plugin management UI from external nets | 16:44 |
| mihgen | bogdando: just localhost only should be just fine, right? | 16:44 |
| bogdando | or to only localhost, indeed | 16:44 |
| mwhahaha | as we aren't using it anywhere i think the safest is to limit to localhost until a time where we need more access from elsewhere | 16:44 |
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| mihgen | mwhahaha: +1 | 16:44 |
| mwhahaha | i will proceed with that unless anyone else has a better idea or any issues with this approach | 16:44 |
| mihgen | solved :) xarses - let's move ) | 16:45 |
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| mwhahaha | got it, thanks. | 16:45 |
| xarses | #topic SSL feature status (sbogatkin) | 16:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SSL feature status (sbogatkin) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:45 | |
| mihgen | 4 things left to discuss | 16:45 |
| sbog_ | We were ready to merge last SSL commit yesterday (had had some +1s from the team already), but it didn't pass OSTF with enabled SSL. OSTF team found a problem and created fix for that. Today some wonderful stuff was merged twice already and that actions broke last SSL commit every time. I resolved merge conflicts and created new ISO with both new SSL patchset and OSTF team tests fix. If it will pass CI then those commits could (and will, I | 16:45 |
| sbog_ | hope) be merged today and SSL feature will be mainly closed. | 16:45 |
| sbog_ | Some tests from QA team is although on the way. | 16:45 |
| mihgen | sbog_: sounds challenging but under control | 16:46 |
| sbog_ | of course | 16:46 |
| mihgen | what about Fuel UI/rest api under SSL? | 16:46 |
| mihgen | do you cover those as well? | 16:46 |
| xarses | sbog_: are there any other issues, or blockers? | 16:46 |
| sbog_ | mihgen: Already merged, but disabled by default. Need to create one more patch to enable it. 1 line of code. | 16:47 |
| sbog_ | xarses: seems that no | 16:47 |
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| mihgen | sbog_: cool. Let's ensure that we document somewhere how to disable it if people need to | 16:47 |
| sbog_ | Okay | 16:47 |
| mihgen | sbog_: I assume you are in sync with QA for their framework | 16:48 |
| xarses | #topic proposal to add fuel to openstack projects - status update (angdraug) | 16:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "proposal to add fuel to openstack projects - status update (angdraug) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:48 | |
| sbog_ | mihgen: yep | 16:48 |
| mihgen | sbog_: cool, thx | 16:48 |
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| angdraug | our proposal was received positively, but TC has voted it down for now: | 16:48 |
| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/199232 | 16:48 |
| angdraug | two primary concerns are: | 16:48 |
| angdraug | 1) forked copies of puppet-openstack modules | 16:48 |
| angdraug | 2) fuel commits must be verified and gated on openstack infra | 16:48 |
| angdraug | the most promising approach to addressing the first problem is using puppet-librarian to manage upstream modules: | 16:48 |
| angdraug | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/13aK1QOujp2leuHmbGMwNeZIRDr1bFgJi88nxE642xLA/edit | 16:48 |
| angdraug | I think we should start doing it now, one module at a time | 16:48 |
| angdraug | for example, we should convert the ironic module commit to librarian: | 16:48 |
| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/194184 | 16:48 |
| angdraug | we have a lot of syntax and unit tests that can be moved to openstack infra | 16:49 |
| angdraug | same with component integration tests such as fuel ui tests based on nailgun fake-ui | 16:49 |
| angdraug | that should be our next step with the Fuel CI | 16:49 |
| angdraug | running deploy tests (fuel-qa) on openstack infra is a much bigger problem, but also not impossible | 16:49 |
| angdraug | we don't have time to do that in 7.0, but we should start researching this for 8.0 | 16:49 |
| angdraug | thoughts? | 16:49 |
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| mihgen | angdraug: yeah the problem is time and resources now | 16:49 |
| mihgen | however, some simple changes can be done even now I think, in 7.0 | 16:50 |
| angdraug | exactly my point | 16:50 |
| mihgen | like switching to re-using some of the tests | 16:50 |
| angdraug | we can't un-fork all modules at once | 16:50 |
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| angdraug | but using librarian to add new modules would not add significant effort | 16:50 |
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| mihgen | angdraug: this one as well | 16:50 |
| mattymo | +1 for new module format | 16:50 |
| xarses | angdraug: ya, I don't think we can start on any of this until after SCF. We can try some minor things then and maybe in a fork of fuel-library to isolate effect | 16:50 |
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| xarses | we should vet out all of the technical issues there and then bring it into master once we branch from 7.0 | 16:51 |
| mihgen | we are getting ironic puppet module in 7.0, why don't we get in new way | 16:51 |
| mihgen | right from the very beginning and see how it fly | 16:51 |
| angdraug | exactly | 16:51 |
| xarses | mihgen: there is no tooling technicaly vetted yet | 16:51 |
| angdraug | the commit I linked is still on review | 16:52 |
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| xarses | so I'm worried, we may need to fall back to the old way | 16:52 |
| mihgen | if it doesn't fly as expected,we can always switch to old approach | 16:52 |
| mwhahaha | we can fall back to the old way if we provide a hard limit on how long to spend to port to librian | 16:52 |
| mihgen | xarses: fall back is easy, so why don't we try | 16:52 |
| angdraug | I think the hard limit should be end of day monday | 16:52 |
| xarses | well we have untill thursday to get it in? | 16:52 |
| angdraug | is that reasonable? | 16:52 |
| xarses | so tuesday | 16:52 |
| mwhahaha | if we find it takes more than a few days, the existing method of porting is already there w/ librarian because it'll check it out in the directory tree | 16:52 |
| mihgen | yes, let's see how hard it is. If it's hard, old way to go for now | 16:53 |
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| mihgen | And another thing is tests, including simplest stuff like pep8, do we run those on Fuel CI? | 16:53 |
| angdraug | on the CI: replacing noop with jobs that re-use the unit tests we already have should be relatively trivial | 16:53 |
| angdraug | we do run pep8 in some repositories | 16:54 |
| mihgen | we can enable in non-voting first openstack infra CI | 16:54 |
| mihgen | then enable in voting, then disable Fuel CI | 16:54 |
| angdraug | yes, that's the plan | 16:54 |
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| mihgen | question is who has spare cycles to work on it ) | 16:54 |
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| angdraug | start with trivial syntax checks like pep8, then move on to unit tests | 16:55 |
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| angdraug | spare cycles? what are you talking about? :p | 16:55 |
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| angdraug | we'll pray to the code fairy | 16:55 |
| xarses | angdraug: can we write this up to the ML and move from there? | 16:55 |
| mihgen | xarses: +1 | 16:55 |
| angdraug | of course | 16:55 |
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| angdraug | as long as there are no objections here, I will write it up on openstack-dev | 16:56 |
| angdraug | moving on? | 16:56 |
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| xarses | #topic Granular deployment and separation from controller role (mattymo) | 16:56 |
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| xarses | #action angdraug will write up to ML about moving simple tests to Openstack CI | 16:57 |
| mihgen | mattymo: ? | 16:57 |
| xarses | #topic Enable auto-abandon (mihgen) | 16:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Enable auto-abandon (mihgen) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:57 | |
| mihgen | hey guys you saw my email and participated | 16:57 |
| mihgen | can we just go ahead? | 16:57 |
| mihgen | what do we need to enable it? | 16:57 |
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| xarses | #action angdraug to write up ML about moving new puppet module to librarian and timeline | 16:57 |
| mihgen | angdraug: is it something your team can help with ? | 16:58 |
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| angdraug | yes if there's consensus | 16:58 |
| mihgen | Question to all core reviewers - did we go through patches and marked -1 where we need feedback? | 16:58 |
| angdraug | there was dissent from sbog_ and I agree with him | 16:58 |
| mihgen | and where we don't need anything, did we just merge? | 16:58 |
| xarses | #action mwhahaha will set up librarian with puppet-ironic as a start before FF (monday) | 16:58 |
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| mihgen | our current stats are terrible guys | 16:59 |
| angdraug | the goal is not to fix the stats | 16:59 |
| angdraug | the goal is to fix the review process | 16:59 |
| xarses | note: FF is Thursday | 16:59 |
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| mihgen | stats represent where we are with the process | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
| mihgen | #link http://stackalytics.com/report/reviews/fuel-group/open | 17:00 |
| xarses | wor the reviews, we need to ensure that they are touched before going | 17:00 |
| xarses | but we need to close | 17:00 |
| angdraug | folks, time! | 17:00 |
| mihgen | ok let's move it to openstack-dev | 17:00 |
| mihgen | thanks all | 17:00 |
| * Daviey serves eviction notice to fuel | 17:00 | |
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| xarses | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 17:00:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-07-16-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-07-16-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-07-16-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| sigmavirus24 | A+ Daviey | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 16 17:00:50 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 17:00 |
| gmurphy | sup | 17:00 |
| nkinder | o/ | 17:01 |
| Daviey | \o | 17:01 |
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| mvaldes | o/ | 17:01 |
| elmiko | heyo/ | 17:01 |
| federico3 | \o | 17:01 |
| sicarie | o/ | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | good crowd | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | ok | 17:02 |
| timkennedy | o/ | 17:02 |
| dg_ | hey | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | let's roll right into agenda | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | (btw we have an agenda): https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/OpenStackSecurity | 17:02 |
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| tmcpeak | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/OpenStackSecurity | 17:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | :shockedface: | 17:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | =P | 17:02 |
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| tmcpeak | (I'm supposed to use hashtags heavily) | 17:02 |
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| tmcpeak | #topic Anchor Update | 17:02 |
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| tmcpeak | dg_ tkelsey: take it away | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | #yolo | 17:03 |
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| dg_ | no update from me this week, tkelsey? | 17:03 |
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| Daviey | The migration to openstack namespace seemed to be uneventful | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | tkelsey is has crashed from whatever energy substance has enabled him to write all these Bandit patches | 17:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | Daviey: no fireworks happened for you? | 17:04 |
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| Daviey | sigmavirus24: after a git pull rebease, it was ok :) | 17:05 |
| dg_ | weve had a couple of users be confused because they cant clone from the old link, but I've gone through and update the wiki pages, so hopefully we shouldnt have too many more | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | cool | 17:06 |
| mvaldes | oh, quick reminder | 17:06 |
| mvaldes | http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html#user-reference | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, everything for the most part just seems to have worked | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | mvaldes: cool, thank you | 17:06 |
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| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: we owe our infra team something then | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | yep, beer usually works | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Bandit Update | 17:07 |
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| tmcpeak | so we've had a ton of good work going in | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | I think 3-5 patches this week | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | tkelsey is going nuts | 17:07 |
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| Daviey | and some questionable work | 17:07 |
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| tmcpeak | Daviey: what do you mean? | 17:07 |
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| Daviey | tmcpeak: self deprecating. | 17:07 |
| tkelsey | hey sorry im late :O | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | haha | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | ;) | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | your patch was great | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | we finally have a wordlist again :) | 17:08 |
| browne | yay | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | wordlists working? that's so 90s | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | I did want to bring up one thing though.. | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | the project seems to have grown to the point where it can be difficult to synchronize on big changes | 17:08 |
| tkelsey | tmcpeak: +1 agreed | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | for simple fixes, enhancements, etc what we're doing seems to be working | 17:09 |
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| tmcpeak | but for big changes I'd like it if we start using blueprints, specs, or whatever | 17:09 |
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| tmcpeak | we had a big change and backtrack with the statement stuff | 17:09 |
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| browne | agree. probably just blueprints is fine for now. not sure we need specs yet | 17:09 |
| elmiko | +1 | 17:09 |
| tkelsey | tmcpeak: +1 I think we need some organisation around larger stuff | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | if we had a clear goal in mind we could avoid backtracking | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:09 |
| nkinder | well, we have an area for specs now... | 17:09 |
| * Daviey started writing a spec for using stevedore for the plugins. | 17:09 | |
| tmcpeak | sounds like we have agtreement | 17:10 |
| browne | do we already have a bandit-specs repo? | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | Daviey: the hipster of spec usage ;) | 17:10 |
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| nkinder | the question is, shoudl we align to the release schedule for the rest of OpenStack? | 17:10 |
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| tkelsey | nkinder: good question | 17:10 |
| nkinder | i.e. - approve specs for a release by a cut-off date | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: I'd rather not, 6 months is pretty slow for Bandit I think | 17:10 |
| elmiko | nkinder: doesn't seem to make sense for bandit | 17:10 |
| Daviey | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/security-specs/tree/specs/liberty | 17:10 |
| browne | agree, don't think it makes sense for bandit | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | Daviey: thank you, saved me the googles | 17:10 |
| browne | Daviey: oh cool | 17:11 |
| elmiko | although that does make the spec repo layout more complicated | 17:11 |
| tkelsey | nkinder: humm, I dont want to loose velocity on stuff by going too far in that direction, but some organisation is needed i think | 17:11 |
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| elmiko | we had agreed on release/project/ | 17:11 |
| nkinder | yeah, not recommending it. Just raisign it for discussion | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: +1 | 17:11 |
| tkelsey | nkinder: its good input | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | ok, so let's do this | 17:11 |
| nkinder | we have to be careful that we don't make drastic changes that break the gate for other projects that use us | 17:11 |
| nkinder | ...especially late in a cycle | 17:11 |
| elmiko | if we change to allow some projects to have different release schedules we might want a different layout | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | if you want to write a feature that you know is small - bring it up on IRC | 17:11 |
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| tmcpeak | if you aren't sure whether it should have a spec, ask on ML | 17:12 |
| tkelsey | nkinder: agreed | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | if you know it should have a spec write it :) | 17:12 |
| nkinder | maybe we just should have a later cut-off that most | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | nkinder: +1 | 17:12 |
| Daviey | tmcpeak: IMO, spec for stevedore conversation is overkill.. but seemed like a good excuse to dry run the process. | 17:12 |
| tkelsey | nkinder: +1 | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: I'd like to automate that "making sure" | 17:12 |
| elmiko | nkinder: +1, very reasonable | 17:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | Daviey: stevedore in which project? bandit? | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | chair6 merged something that can audit what projects have Bandit gates | 17:12 |
| Daviey | sigmavirus24: yah | 17:12 |
| tkelsey | Daviey: that makes a good test bed | 17:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | Daviey: we should sync up | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24 has merged that already ;) | 17:13 |
| * sigmavirus24 added stevedore already =P | 17:13 | |
| Daviey | sigmavirus24: Happy for you to sit in the driving seat if you prefer. | 17:13 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Daviey: not necessarily drive anything, but I'm interested in what you want to add with stevedore is all | 17:13 |
| tkelsey | hehe, a good example of needing more organisation :) | 17:13 |
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| elmiko | tkelsey: +1 | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | tkelsey: +1 | 17:13 |
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| Daviey | chair6's audit script was really rather nice. i imagined something that inspected ~/git/openstack/*/tox.ini or something, which seemed really nasty.. but it is quite graceful how it queries zuul config. | 17:14 |
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| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | seems like we're in agreement as to the need to have blueprints for big changes | 17:15 |
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| tkelsey | +1 | 17:16 |
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| tmcpeak | so we can start doing that and avoid reversing course and wasting time like we did with statements, but live and learn | 17:16 |
| browne | yep | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | we still have great momentum and a great community around Bandit, so if this is our biggest problem we're doing ok | 17:16 |
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| tmcpeak | anything else for Bandit? | 17:16 |
| browne | so should bandit be in feature freeze now? | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | browne: we can.. we can keep doing development and not pin another version until we unfreeze | 17:17 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Probably silly, but would I be a terrible person to request some documentation around bandit's release management? (E.g., feature freezes, release schedule, etc.)? | 17:17 |
| Daviey | Do we have a release cadence for bandit? | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | when's the freeze for other projects | 17:17 |
| Daviey | sigmavirus24: just what i was thinking! | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | Daviey: no, we could probably use one | 17:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | Daviey: we're were thinking the same thing:D | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: ^ | 17:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: it's a per-project thing | 17:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | Glance, for example, really doesn't freeze until milestone 3 | 17:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | Others tend to freeze earlier | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | how about anybody interested can collaborate on this with… a spec :) | 17:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | But that's because Glance specs are borken | 17:18 |
| Daviey | tmcpeak has a new toy | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | haha | 17:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: so a monthly release schedule is okay? =P | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | I'll definitely participate | 17:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | that's what my spec will say =P | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | LGTM | 17:19 |
| tkelsey | can we have a ML discussion on this please | 17:19 |
| tkelsey | so other projects know we take it seriously and what our plans are | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | tkelsey: good point | 17:19 |
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| tmcpeak | #action tkelsey to start Bandit ML discussion on Bandit release cadence | 17:19 |
| Daviey | Who is taking the action? | 17:19 |
| Daviey | :) | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | tkelsey is: ^ ;) | 17:19 |
| tkelsey | looks like i got volunteered :P | 17:20 |
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| tmcpeak | cool, allright | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | next up | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Security Guide | 17:20 |
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| tmcpeak | sicarie, elmiko, Daviey | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | wassup | 17:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | tkelsey: voluntold ;) | 17:20 |
| sicarie | plugging away on the RST migration | 17:20 |
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| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:20 |
| sicarie | Hopefully a bp will landin the spec repo this week or early next | 17:20 |
| Daviey | sicarie: Formalizing the meeting schedule ? | 17:20 |
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| sicarie | Daviey: yep | 17:21 |
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| sicarie | we've filled in the info on the Specialty Team wiki | 17:21 |
| sicarie | I have a change in to get us listed in the meetings | 17:21 |
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| elmiko | \o/ | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | sweet! | 17:21 |
| sicarie | It's going to stand in #openstack-security at 10am PST Mondays | 17:21 |
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| tmcpeak | good stuff | 17:22 |
| sicarie | And we were wanting to bring meetbot into the security room | 17:22 |
| sicarie | for logging etc | 17:22 |
| Daviey | The bot works there, just pending approval from infra to get the meeting schedule merged | 17:22 |
| sicarie | any opinion for/against? | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | about time you guys get a formal schedule and meeting going. That will probably help attract volunteers too | 17:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | +1 | 17:22 |
| sicarie | tmcpeak: +1 | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | meetbot is fine | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | we already have logging in there | 17:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm surprised if #openstack-security isn't already logged | 17:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | ah | 17:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | We do :D | 17:22 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah, it is | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | :D | 17:22 |
| sicarie | Excellent | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | good stuff | 17:23 |
| Daviey | I don't think anything major has happened with the doc this week? | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | you guys have enough volunteers to plug through your backlog? | 17:23 |
| sicarie | I'm still trying to find a good way to make a security guide sprint easy to do for people not familiar with a given project | 17:23 |
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| elmiko | i think those were the major things ;) | 17:23 |
| sicarie | I think day 1 might be research | 17:23 |
| Daviey | My cinder wipe one is still too single-vendor centric.. need to work out how to deal with that | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | it could be time to get out there and start shaking the can again | 17:23 |
| sicarie | tmcpeak: we always have more bugs, but I think they're generally triaged | 17:23 |
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| elmiko | Daviey: i've talked with eharney about the fedora/centos/rhel side, he commented on the review | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | not for triaging, I mean for actually doing work - do you guys have sufficient participation or should we plan another socializing our efforts tour? | 17:24 |
| Daviey | elmiko: Yeah | 17:24 |
| sicarie | I think I'm almost ready to finish the case studies, I am going to volun-script people next sec guide meeting to review the ones I don't think need to be changed | 17:24 |
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| sicarie | er, Alice's case studies | 17:24 |
| sicarie | Bob's still needs work | 17:24 |
| sicarie | And then the Compute chapter needs a few more touches | 17:25 |
| sicarie | but overall it's coming along | 17:25 |
| Daviey | Personally, i kinda think security-doc should be doing more shepherding of content from subject matter experts.. rather than feeling personally responsible for writing new content whilst learning project detail | 17:25 |
| elmiko | sicarie: +1 | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: would you be interested in doing another "intro to OpenStack Security" thing like I initially found you guys at? | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | elmiko, sicarie, etc | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | could be good to get a couple of meetups going, one in Seattle and one in the Bay or something | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | bring in some new blood | 17:25 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: yeah | 17:25 |
| sicarie | Daviey: that's a very interesting discussion | 17:25 |
| sicarie | but one for another venue :) | 17:26 |
| sicarie | +1 tmcpeak | 17:26 |
| Daviey | indeed | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | cool, ok impromptu agenda item | 17:26 |
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| elmiko | agreed about Daviey's comment | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Socializing OS-Security | 17:26 |
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| tmcpeak | so I discovered OpenStack Security about 15 months ago from a tour nkinder and bdpayne were doing | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | I think it could be cool to set up something else like that | 17:26 |
| tkelsey | tmcpeak: interesting idea | 17:27 |
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| tmcpeak | maybe we could actually do 3: UK, Seattle, Bay | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | anybody interested in working on something like that? | 17:27 |
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| tmcpeak | our community really benefits from participation, and you never know who we might discover | 17:28 |
| elmiko | sounds cool, i'm kinda far from those locales though :/ | 17:28 |
| elmiko | i could provide moral support =) | 17:28 |
| nkinder | elmiko: that means you can give one local to you... :) | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko: :) | 17:28 |
| elmiko | nkinder: yea, i'd be curious to talk more about it | 17:28 |
| Daviey | OpenStack London meetup 21st July, anyone going? | 17:28 |
| nkinder | Basically, we shoudl develop a presentation that any of us can re-use to recruit and evangelize | 17:29 |
| tkelsey | maybe see if local PyCon's or what not would have a guest talk on OS sec | 17:29 |
| elmiko | nkinder: +1 | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: +1 | 17:29 |
| tkelsey | nkinder: +1 | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | I think hyakuhei has some deck we could do a little surgery on and present | 17:29 |
| dg_ | theres an OS london meetup? | 17:29 |
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| dg_ | Tkelsey? fancy a day out? | 17:29 |
| Daviey | #link http://www.meetup.com/Openstack-London/ | 17:29 |
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| Daviey | dg_: I might even let you buy me a beer. | 17:29 |
| tkelsey | dg_: why not :) | 17:30 |
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| nkinder | yeah, I can take my old deck and modernize it too | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: awesome | 17:30 |
| Daviey | nkinder: in git? | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: do you have bandwidth and interest to lead this? | 17:30 |
| mvaldes | we have a local appsec conference in austin in october that might be a good venue for this | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | mvaldes: awesome! yeah, Austin seems like it would be a prime location too | 17:31 |
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| sicarie | With bluebox/ibm local we have a rather active group up here too - I'd be interested in helping develop content, though I'm not a huge fan of speaking in front of people | 17:31 |
| mvaldes | #link http://lascon.org/ | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | so I guess general plan is get a basic deck/preso worked out, then get one or two people from each location to find a venue and present | 17:31 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: I'll resurrect my slide deck and we can collaborate to build on it | 17:31 |
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| tmcpeak | nkinder: great! | 17:32 |
| nkinder | probably a good item to get in shape at the midcycle | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: for sure, great idea | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | we can carve off a day for it, might really pay off | 17:32 |
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| tmcpeak | ok, next :) | 17:32 |
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| tmcpeak | #topic Notes | 17:32 |
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| tmcpeak | nkinder: take it away :) | 17:33 |
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| nkinder | There's not too much activity lately. Daviey has a note out as a WIP. | 17:33 |
| Daviey | nkinder: I could do with your input on how to declare Affects: Keystone + anything that uses it. | 17:34 |
| nkinder | I'm in the middle of reviewing it, so comments are coming your way Daviey :) | 17:34 |
| Daviey | Oh super, thanks | 17:34 |
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| tkelsey | link? | 17:34 |
| Daviey | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200303/ | 17:34 |
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| tkelsey | ty :) | 17:34 |
| Daviey | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200303/ | 17:34 |
| nkinder | There's still a healthy backlog of notes to choose from... | 17:34 |
| sicarie | nkinder: backlog link? | 17:35 |
| tkelsey | lol @ cowsay | 17:35 |
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| tkelsey | nkinder: I will try to pick one up | 17:35 |
| nkinder | backlog - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/ | 17:35 |
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| nkinder | tkelsey: great, thanks! | 17:35 |
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| tkelsey | but i didnt manage it last time I said that | 17:35 |
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| nkinder | that's really it on OSSNs right now. I'm hoping to hack on the parsing tool I mentioned last week pretty soon | 17:36 |
| Daviey | I I have OSSN-0051 rough draft, but i wanted to land 50 first | 17:36 |
| elmiko | nkinder: i'll look into picking another up too | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | awesome, great work as usual Mr. Kinder | 17:37 |
| nkinder | elmiko: thanks! | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Midcycle | 17:37 |
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| tmcpeak | ok so I think we all know about the midcycle, we had some maybes I'd really like to get there | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko, sigmavirus24, nkinder | 17:38 |
| Daviey | Whilst it is most unlikely I'll be at the mid-cycle, I was tempted by the specific AirBNB (option 4) on the wiki.. worth looking at! | 17:38 |
| Daviey | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/SecurityLibertySprint#Hotels | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-liberty-midcycle | 17:38 |
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| elmiko | tmcpeak: i'm trying, its just a budgetary issue at this point | 17:38 |
| * sigmavirus24 can't go. | 17:38 | |
| sigmavirus24 | We have a quarterly team sync up at HQ that I have to go to that week | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | Daviey: we did an AirBnb place in San Francisco with the HP folks and it was lots of fun | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: ahh bummer | 17:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | tell me about it | 17:39 |
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| tmcpeak | elmiko: cool, keep working it - drop in management terms, explain the ROI, etc etc etc | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | :P | 17:39 |
| elmiko | haha, for sure =) | 17:39 |
| Daviey | tmcpeak: you should look at that one, i suspect it'll be less fun | 17:39 |
| * sigmavirus24 may be able to participate remotely though | 17:39 | |
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| tmcpeak | Daviey: lmao | 17:39 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm guessing this is Rob's doing, since it's written in pounds | 17:40 |
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| Daviey | considering there is an active part of the security team that likely will not be there, i wonder if we could think of /some/ sprinty things to complement the week? | 17:40 |
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| tmcpeak | although the whole UK side of the pond is full of snark, so it could really be any of you | 17:40 |
| Daviey | (another time, but just an idea) | 17:40 |
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| tmcpeak | Daviey: that's a great idea | 17:40 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Infra also has some teleconferencing software set up that we can use | 17:41 |
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| Daviey | Whilst remote conf' is useful for the remote attendees, it often changes the dynamics of the local attendees - such that much of the value of local collab is lost | 17:41 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm definitely willing to give it a shot, I mean I work entirely from home at the moment, so I know it's possible to effectively conference :) | 17:41 |
| Daviey | (IMO) | 17:41 |
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| tmcpeak | Daviey: yeah, I think we should shoot for a different time that isn't the midcycle | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | Daviey: you want to put together some ideas so we don't drop this? | 17:43 |
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| Daviey | uh, ok | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: etc | 17:43 |
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| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: was that a wilco reference? (Jesus, etc.) | 17:43 |
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| tmcpeak | no, I don't know what that is | 17:43 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'll show you later | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | okies | 17:44 |
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| tmcpeak | does anybody want an action for this, or shall we pick it up another time? | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | another time it is ;) | 17:44 |
| Daviey | tmcpeak: lets thrash some of it out another time in the main channel? | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | Daviey: cool | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | sounds like a plan | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | #topic API Testing | 17:45 |
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| tmcpeak | mvaldes: shoot | 17:45 |
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| mvaldes | cool. we have a PoC up and running | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | awesome? | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | I mean awesome! | 17:45 |
| Daviey | linky? | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | link? | 17:45 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:45 |
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| mvaldes | yes :) | 17:45 |
| Daviey | if this is a rickroll, i'll be unimpressed. | 17:46 |
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| mvaldes | no link yet. hoping to open source it in the next week-ish | 17:46 |
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| tmcpeak | lol | 17:46 |
| tkelsey | mvaldes: cool, looking forward to seeing it :) | 17:46 |
| mvaldes | but it is doing things | 17:46 |
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| tmcpeak | mvaldes: awesome | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | do you want to say anything about it or wait until it's posted and we can go over it together? | 17:47 |
| mvaldes | so far i equate it to automating much of what we use burp intruder for | 17:47 |
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| tmcpeak | that sounds like a useful start | 17:47 |
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| mvaldes | that's about all i have for now i think | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | cool, so… | 17:48 |
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| tmcpeak | #topic Open Bugs, Crypto Oversight, AOB | 17:48 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm squashing these because I expect we won't have any updates on the crypto thing since hyakuhei was leading it | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | and he's gonzo | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | open floor, anybody have anything to discuss? | 17:49 |
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| tkelsey | nothing from me, just to let folks know I'll be pushing on Bandit bugs this comming week still | 17:49 |
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| * sigmavirus24 gives tkelsey a round of applause | 17:49 | |
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| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:49 |
| tkelsey | heh thanks sigmavirus24 :) | 17:50 |
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| sigmavirus24 | I might work out a spec to give bandit the ability to do analysis using multiprocessing | 17:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | There's a bp registered for it, but might as well toy with our specs | 17:50 |
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| sigmavirus24 | We'll see how much time I have | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: awesome, sounds like a good usage for them | 17:50 |
| tkelsey | sigmavirus24: interesting :) | 17:50 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Hopefully it'll take analyzing glance from ~20s to like 5 | 17:51 |
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| tmcpeak | that would be impressive :) | 17:51 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Flake8 has seen similarly drastic performance benefits | 17:51 |
| tkelsey | sigmavirus24: exciting stuff | 17:51 |
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| tmcpeak | sounds exciting, and a perfect use for specs :D | 17:52 |
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| tmcpeak | allright, anything else before I call it? | 17:52 |
| Daviey | lets go home? | 17:52 |
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| tmcpeak | lol sounds like a plan | 17:53 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 17:54:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:54 |
| tmcpeak | thanks everybody! | 17:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-07-16-17.00.html | 17:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-07-16-17.00.txt | 17:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-07-16-17.00.log.html | 17:54 |
| elmiko | thanks tmcpeak | 17:54 |
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| tkelsey | thanks tmcpeak | 17:54 |
| nkinder | thanks! | 17:54 |
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| Daviey | thanks tmcpeak | 17:54 |
| tmcpeak | have a great week | 17:54 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 16 19:03:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:03 |
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| sriram | o/ | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Roll Call | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:03 | |
| malini | o/ | 19:03 |
| sriram | o/ | 19:03 |
| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:03 |
| cathR | o/ | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | #link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Last Week Update | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-07-09-19.02.html | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | malini to get the outstanding security patches fixed and merged | 19:05 |
| * sriram clicks link | 19:05 | |
| malini | I am working with Henry on that | 19:05 |
| malini | its WIP | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, will keep it rolling over, good stuff | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | #action malini to get the outstanding security patches fixed and merged | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | malini to clean up/fix the many test related patches that have been out there for a while | 19:05 |
| malini | not there yet :/ | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | #action malini to clean up/fix the many test related patches that have been out there for a while | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | sriram to review all patches | 19:05 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: have reviewed all except one | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | =) | 19:06 |
| sriram | I'll work on that. | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever to hound people to review his stuff | 19:06 |
| tonytan4ever | I have been doing that, but I think I will still leave that item on | 19:06 |
| malini | he is too good to hound people | 19:06 |
| sriram | I'd like to think we were proactive this time ;) | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | #action tonytan4ever to hound people to review his stuff | 19:06 |
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| amitgandhinz | amitgandhinz to make mimic fastly the default driver | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | didnt get much time to work on this | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #action amitgandhinz to make mimic fastly the default driver | 19:07 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Liberty Updates | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty Updates (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:07 | |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/liberty-2 | 19:07 |
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| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/ip-restrictions | 19:08 |
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| tonytan4ever | This one is in review | 19:08 |
| tonytan4ever | I got hound some people to review it. | 19:09 |
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| sriram | tonytan4ever: I volunteer to review it lol | 19:09 |
| sriram | :) | 19:09 |
| tonytan4ever | Thanks | 19:09 |
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| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/geo-restrictions | 19:10 |
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| tonytan4ever | This one is on hold until Akamai is rolling out their new API support whitelist/blacklist multiple countries | 19:11 |
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| amitgandhinz | is the code mostly done though (besides testing with multiple countries?) | 19:11 |
| tonytan4ever | Yes | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | cool | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/san-domain-migration | 19:12 |
| tonytan4ever | I guess in that sense it could be good for review | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | anantha isnt on, but this was merged today | 19:12 |
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| amitgandhinz | miqui: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/code-coverage | 19:13 |
| sriram | miqui mentioned that he is working on this. | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | ok cool | 19:13 |
| sriram | and that he might not make in today for the meeting | 19:13 |
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| sriram | s/in/it in | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | ok anything else to add for liberty? | 19:13 |
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| amitgandhinz | sriram: do you have a bp for the no-cache enhancement | 19:14 |
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| sriram | we tested flows? it had a bp associated with it | 19:14 |
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| sriram | amitgandhinz: nope | 19:14 |
| sriram | need to create one. | 19:14 |
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| obulpathi | o/ | 19:15 |
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| amitgandhinz | i dont see the bp for flows? | 19:15 |
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| sriram | I definitely know there was one. I was updating it. | 19:15 |
| sriram | along every step of the way. | 19:15 |
| sriram | did it go away because it was not approved? | 19:16 |
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| amitgandhinz | no | 19:16 |
| sriram | it was definitely there :| | 19:16 |
| * amitgandhinz thinks sriram had a dream about updating bp's | 19:17 | |
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| sriram | I even had a implements blueprint in my commit message lol | 19:17 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: I have email proof :P | 19:17 |
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| * amitgandhinz thinks sriram may sleeptype | 19:17 | |
| * sriram forwards amitgandhinz the email | 19:18 | |
| sriram | :P | 19:18 |
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| amitgandhinz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1425556 ? | 19:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1425556 in Poppy "dns-exception-handling" [Low,Fix committed] - Assigned to Sriram (thesriram) | 19:18 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: thats fixed | 19:18 |
| sriram | commit merged | 19:18 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok movign on then | 19:19 |
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| amitgandhinz | anything else for liberty? | 19:19 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:20 |
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| tonytan4ever | not for me. | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | so the talks were all submitted for Tokyo | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/poppy_tokyo | 19:20 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: woot | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | there were a total of 5 talks submitted | 19:21 |
| malini | wow!!! | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | voting should start soon | 19:21 |
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| amitgandhinz | yeh, cpowell and balajiiyer came in at the last moment and submitted 3 more | 19:21 |
| * sriram votes for each one of them!! :D | 19:21 | |
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| amitgandhinz | lets hope the votes come in our favor =) | 19:21 |
| sriram | I'd like to bring up our commit message conventions | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | floor is yours | 19:22 |
| malini | now dance | 19:22 |
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| sriram | I have been pointing them out in patches, but ideally we should have a good description of what each patch does. | 19:22 |
| malini | sriram: +1 | 19:22 |
| sriram | lets take that up as an action item to remind ourselves about it. | 19:23 |
| malini | I am guilty of tht as well | 19:23 |
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| amitgandhinz | I agree, at the least it should reference a bug or bp. and the message should be clear what is being achieved | 19:23 |
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| obulpathi | +1 | 19:23 |
| sriram | #action everyone to diligently check their commit messages and make sure they have enough detail | 19:23 |
| sriram | thats it from me. | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | #agreed everyone to diligently check their commit messages and make sure they have enough detail | 19:24 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok anything else? | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | i have a hard stop at 330 so this is working out well ;-) | 19:24 |
| sriram | ha | 19:24 |
| balajiiyer | amitgandhinz: We didnt submit the talk on saltstack, we just have 4. | 19:24 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | i;ll remove it from the etherad | 19:25 |
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| malini | I submitted a couple with few other folks, but those are un-poppy | 19:25 |
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| amitgandhinz | traitor! | 19:25 |
| malini | :-$ | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | bring on the cartel wars | 19:25 |
| malini | its abt testing & all the good (??) stuff | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | everyone knows poppy has the best warez | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, thanks everyone | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 19:26:50 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-07-16-19.03.html | 19:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-07-16-19.03.txt | 19:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-07-16-19.03.log.html | 19:26 |
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