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bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 15:00:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
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bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:00 |
markstur_ | hi | 15:00 |
ganso_ | hello | 15:00 |
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tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
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xyang1 | Hi | 15:00 |
Zhongjun | hi | 15:00 |
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toabctl | hi | 15:01 |
u_glide | hi | 15:01 |
bswartz | so this is the first meeting since the debacle last week with the gate | 15:01 |
vponomaryov | Hello | 15:01 |
bswartz | I sent out some ML posts about that over the past week | 15:01 |
Shamail | Hi | 15:02 |
bswartz | the good news is that all of the BPs which were granted technical FFEs did get merged before Tuesday | 15:02 |
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bswartz | so we were able to start our bugfix and stabilization period only 5 days late | 15:02 |
bswartz | more about that later in the agenda | 15:02 |
bswartz | first thing is | 15:02 |
bswartz | #topic 3rd-party CI status | 15:03 |
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bswartz | #link http://ec2-54-67-102-119.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com:5000/?project=openstack/manila&user=&timeframe=72&start=&end=&page_size=500 | 15:03 |
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lpabon | o/ | 15:03 |
bswartz | #link http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=manila | 15:03 |
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dustins | \o | 15:03 |
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bswartz | so these are 2 nice tools that give you a quick view of the health of various CI systems | 15:03 |
bswartz | thanks whoever added those links to the agenda | 15:04 |
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cknight | bswartz: welcome | 15:04 |
bswartz | There was a deadline for CI systems last thursday, which did not get discussed because of the gate breakage and urgent need to close out remaining features | 15:04 |
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bswartz | cknight: ty! | 15:04 |
casusbelli | hi | 15:05 |
bswartz | I've been tracking several drivers progress on CI and the good news is that most of driver do have reporting CI systems | 15:05 |
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bswartz | some of them are reporting very sporadically, and some of them fail nearly always | 15:05 |
bswartz | those things need to be fixed | 15:05 |
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bswartz | but the deadline for healthy CI systems is Sept 24 | 15:06 |
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bswartz | if anyone thinks there will be a problem with meeting that date please ask for help | 15:07 |
bswartz | the first round of driver removal patches will go up today, but we can still remove drivers that have non-passing CI systems on Sept 24 | 15:07 |
xyang1 | bswartz: do you have a list? | 15:08 |
bswartz | so there are 2 driver that currently have no reporting CI systems | 15:08 |
bswartz | xyang1: yes | 15:08 |
bswartz | IBM GPFS has never reported a result | 15:08 |
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xyang1 | bswartz: ok | 15:08 |
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bswartz | The maintainer for IBM GPFS is Gaurang Tapase (gaurangt) | 15:09 |
bswartz | I've talked to him and he says it's mostly working now and will be fully working by the deadline of Sept 24 | 15:10 |
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bswartz | I'm going to submit the patch to remove the GPFS driver and we can wait to merge it if the system starts reporting today | 15:11 |
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cknight | bswartz: So your intent is to merge those 2 removal patches today? | 15:11 |
bswartz | The other driver that has never submitted a result is HDS SOP | 15:11 |
bswartz | The maintainer for HDS SOP is Jason Bishop (jasonsb) | 15:12 |
bswartz | so far I've gotten no responses from him on IRC or by email so I will encourage you to merge the HDS SOP driver removal patch today | 15:12 |
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xyang1 | bswartz: and you plan to add them back if they get CI up by 9/24? | 15:13 |
bswartz | xyang1: that's a good question | 15:14 |
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bswartz | that's up to the community really | 15:14 |
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cknight | bswartz: There is precent from Cinder, where drivers removed at Kilo.3 were re-added later. | 15:14 |
cknight | *precedent | 15:14 |
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bswartz | I'm going to push the removal patches and it's up to you to merge them | 15:14 |
bswartz | I would be okay with reverting the removal patches if the CI systems start working to our satisfaction | 15:15 |
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bswartz | but the published deadline for that is Sept 24 | 15:15 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: what is the difference between always failing existing CI and absent CI? | 15:15 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: for us? | 15:15 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: both cases have no real useful result | 15:16 |
bswartz | just to be clear, I hate removing drivers, but we want to reward the work of those vendors who have worked hard to meet the deadlines | 15:16 |
dustins | bswartz: What're the criteria for satisfaction that a CI is working nominally? | 15:16 |
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bswartz | CI systems have a very positive impact on quality and community involvement | 15:16 |
casusbelli | @vponomaryov i think a reporting CI means that at least there's a working CI infrastructure... | 15:16 |
bswartz | vponomaryov: the difference is that the deadlines we agreed to required that the system be reporting by Sept 3 and passing by Sept 24 | 15:17 |
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bswartz | the first deadline has been passed and 14/16 drivers met that deadline | 15:17 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: and if second deadline is not met then more drivers are going to be deleted? | 15:18 |
bswartz | the 2 that did not meet it are at serious risk of not making the next deadline, and the lack of communication from HDS on the SOP driver is a serious concern | 15:18 |
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bswartz | vponomaryov: that's what we agreed to | 15:18 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: what what criteria do we have for "success" reporting? | 15:19 |
bswartz | what I'm going to do is push some canary patches and check how the CI systems respond | 15:19 |
cknight | bswartz: Dustin's question is valid. What constitutes a nominal pass rate? It must be completely objective. | 15:19 |
bswartz | vponomaryov: I think we will follow the cinder team's lead on that question | 15:20 |
bswartz | everyone understands that sometimes CI systems have temporary problems, and that's okay | 15:20 |
dustins | I imagine there are guidelines somewhere, I think it'd be beneficial for anyone looking through the meeting notes to have a reference | 15:20 |
bswartz | but we're looking for voting from CI systems that mostly matches what jenkins votes | 15:20 |
bswartz | so CI systems should pass when I push a change with no bugs | 15:20 |
bswartz | and CI systems should fail when push a change that introduces a bug | 15:20 |
bswartz | I will do both | 15:21 |
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ganso_ | bswartz: if a vendor CI fails for a reason, due to a change, a bug ticket should be opened, right? | 15:21 |
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xyang1 | bswartz: our CI was reporting successfully for a while but ran into problems recently. Still investigating | 15:21 |
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bswartz | dustins: it's going to be by consensus of the core team -- I think we can tell if a CI system is generally working or totally broken | 15:22 |
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bswartz | if the requirements aren't clear then it's a discussion we can have | 15:23 |
bswartz | we're not going to remove drivers just because the CI system had a hiccup | 15:23 |
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bswartz | but it helps your case to have an established record of voting the same as jenkins that you can point to | 15:24 |
dustins | Indeed | 15:24 |
dustins | I think I'd want something on the Manila Wiki (if there isn't something already) to give some advice on what constitutes a "successful" CI system | 15:25 |
markstur_ | some of us don't run CI until jenkins +1 | 15:25 |
bswartz | just to answer cknight's earlier question, I believe the HDS SOP driver removal should proceed today, but I'm okay with giving IBM GPFS some time to vote, since guarangt is at least responsive | 15:26 |
bswartz | markstur_: I'll have to be clever with my canary patches to test the HP CI system then | 15:26 |
markstur_ | should we all run on all jenkins -1? | 15:27 |
casusbelli | Quobyte does the same (wait for jenkins +1) | 15:27 |
bswartz | markstur_: I'll probably just push a patch that breaks your driver and nothing else | 15:27 |
cknight | bswartz: NetApp also doesn't run until Jenkins passes. That's pretty standard. | 15:27 |
markstur_ | bswartz, thanks for that | 15:27 |
bswartz | okay so negative testing CI systems will be a challenge for me | 15:27 |
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bswartz | however the most basic thing is to at least pass when jenkins passes | 15:28 |
bswartz | if a CI system doesn't do that then it's broken | 15:28 |
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bswartz | negative testing is just to ensure that nobody is cheating | 15:29 |
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casusbelli | Unless one can verify that it has hit a real bug. :) | 15:29 |
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bswartz | casusbelli: that's true | 15:29 |
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bswartz | to answer ganso_'s question above, if there are real bugs preventing your driving from passing tests, those should be filed in LP and targetted for RC1 | 15:30 |
bswartz | we won't release RC1 until all the bugs are fixed or pushed out to Mitaka | 15:30 |
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bswartz | I'm hopeful that everyone can get all their bugs fixed in the next 2 weeks though -- that should be everyone top priority | 15:31 |
bswartz | it would be better to fix them all in the next week | 15:31 |
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bswartz | starting Sep 17 I'm going to aggressively push bugs to Mitaka if they're not fixed and not essential | 15:32 |
bswartz | arg, it looks like we've drifted offtopic to agenda item #4 | 15:32 |
bswartz | getting back to the agenda... | 15:32 |
bswartz | #topic Manila devref update | 15:32 |
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bswartz | u_glide: you're up | 15:33 |
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u_glide | bswartz: thanks | 15:33 |
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bswartz | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/devref/share_back_ends_feature_support_mapping.html#mapping-of-share-drivers-and-share-features-support | 15:33 |
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u_glide | Valeriy added this table in docs | 15:34 |
u_glide | Driver maintainers should update this table with latest information | 15:34 |
u_glide | and remove ""supported operations"" pages from drivers sections | 15:35 |
bswartz | yes please update the devref docs | 15:35 |
bswartz | In addition to bugfixing, now is a great time to make docs updates | 15:35 |
u_glide | if you have any questions - please ask | 15:36 |
u_glide | also I have proposal to move DHSS support to another table | 15:36 |
bswartz | sounds like no questions for now | 15:36 |
bswartz | I'd like to have that table accurate by the RC1 date | 15:37 |
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cknight | bswartz: I guess a driver removal patch should also include this doc. | 15:37 |
bswartz | because it will get branched along with stable/liberty when we release RC1 | 15:37 |
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bswartz | and updating stable branches is always more hassle | 15:37 |
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bswartz | okay moving on | 15:38 |
bswartz | #topic Automount vs asset injection | 15:38 |
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csaba | so this was my topic | 15:38 |
bswartz | csaba: this was your topic from last week I believe | 15:38 |
csaba | yes | 15:38 |
csaba | it's related to stuff that would go into mitaka .. | 15:39 |
bswartz | csaba: did you want to make a design summit session proposal? | 15:39 |
csaba | so not an urgent topic -- but something we (gluster folks) need to sort out and ask for suggestions | 15:39 |
bswartz | or is it something we can solve at this meeting? or should we have an ML thread? | 15:40 |
bswartz | there were 2 approaches for mount automation that we pursued in Liberty | 15:40 |
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csaba | bswartz: well just let me quikly dratft the problem here and we'll see where to take it on | 15:40 |
bswartz | the nova-based approach was rejeted | 15:40 |
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bswartz | but the zaqar-based approach is still ongoing | 15:40 |
cknight | bswartz: the nova-based approach wasn't completely rejected, but it needs more work | 15:41 |
csaba | my concern is not just auto-mount is what might be needed but more generally (my coinage) "asset injection" | 15:41 |
bswartz | cknight: that's good to know | 15:41 |
cknight | bswartz: and we'll need a nova sponsor | 15:41 |
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csaba | ie. have the tenants to have some stuff deployed somewhere... it does not need to culminate in a mount right away | 15:43 |
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csaba | for example in case of cert based allowance (as done by gluster native) tenants need to have some certificates deployed | 15:43 |
bswartz | csaba: I think a concrete example would help | 15:43 |
csaba | bswartz: that's the concrete example, cert setup | 15:44 |
bswartz | csaba: who creates the certs? | 15:44 |
bswartz | the admin or the tenant? | 15:44 |
csaba | bswartz: the driver automates cert creation (or fetching from eg Barbican) | 15:44 |
bswartz | and who consumes the certs? | 15:45 |
csaba | the tenant | 15:45 |
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bswartz | the VMs doing the mounting? | 15:45 |
csaba | yep | 15:46 |
csaba | a needed asset for mounting | 15:46 |
bswartz | can't the VMs pull them out of the same place that the driver pulls them? | 15:46 |
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bswartz | this seems conceptually similar to, in CIFS, where a client and a share server must be part of the same Active Directory domain in order to authenticate | 15:47 |
csaba | that's a viable scheme, with Barbican, but then the authentication problem is pushed further out | 15:47 |
csaba | and there should be an option of managing it in our scope | 15:47 |
bswartz | in that case the tenant tells Manila up front which service service to use (the security service contains the AD details) and manila ensure that share servers do the right thing | 15:47 |
bswartz | s/service service/security service/ | 15:48 |
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bswartz | without knowing more details, my gut feeling is that there needs to be a gluster type of security service, and we need to make sure users of gluster have a way to specify that | 15:49 |
csaba | hmm yeah but signing the cert (or getting the cert signed) might be out of the capabilities of the tenant | 15:49 |
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bswartz | it may not work with the current architecture where security services are tied into share networks | 15:49 |
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bswartz | csaba: the security service could simply be a pointer to a trusted 3rd party that could sign on behalf of both the clients and the servers | 15:50 |
bswartz | and that trusted 3rd party may in fact be barbican if you wish | 15:50 |
csaba | bswartz: the question is that on behalf of whom is that trusted 3rd party willing to perform signing | 15:50 |
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bswartz | yeah I get there are some complexities | 15:50 |
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bswartz | we don't need to design the feature right here in the meeting, since it feels glusterfs specific | 15:51 |
bswartz | but the mechanism is something we should agree to | 15:51 |
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csaba | I just though that it would probably make sense to extend the idea of mount automation to "asset injection" | 15:51 |
bswartz | is there a problem with relying on something like manila security services to provide the tenant-facing part of this ? | 15:52 |
bswartz | oh okay | 15:52 |
csaba | actually the 3rpparty trusted service is a solution to the gluster problem, but another approach | 15:52 |
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csaba | that is beyond these few minutes to discuss in detail, for sure.. | 15:52 |
bswartz | well yeah I suggest making a proposal with a BP and spec and we can add it to the list for Tokyo | 15:53 |
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csaba | but "asset injection" is just a more simplistic scheme -- allow the driver (in case of gluster: sighned cert files ) to push to tenant vms througfh some mechanism | 15:53 |
bswartz | yeah it's not a crazy idea | 15:54 |
bswartz | the challenge will be doing it in a way that doesn't damage the protocol or vendor neutrality of the Manila API | 15:54 |
bswartz | I think it can probably be done | 15:54 |
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csaba | which I feel to be similar to automount, in that it is some driver generatied data that is to be obtained by the tenatt | 15:54 |
bswartz | yes | 15:54 |
csaba | would ssh injection be an option eg? | 15:54 |
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bswartz | what do you mean by ssh injection? | 15:55 |
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bswartz | nova has a way to inject key pairs into VMs, but it only works with cloud-init and with a non-buggy neutron | 15:55 |
csaba | manila has a pre-agreed public key ssh that tenant vms authorize to access | 15:55 |
csaba | hmm yeah could we push data into cloud init from mainla context? | 15:56 |
bswartz | if the glusterfs certificates are literally SSH keys then that might be easy to solve | 15:56 |
bswartz | if they're something else then you might have nova work to do to get them injected | 15:56 |
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bswartz | since we're almost out of time I'm going to open up the floor | 15:57 |
bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:57 |
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csaba | bswartz: not literally ssh keys, but could init would work out for us. can a driver specify cloud init payload for the tenatn vms? | 15:57 |
bswartz | anything else we need to mention today? | 15:57 |
ganso | bswartz: is the deadline Sept 17th or Sept 24th? | 15:57 |
bswartz | csaba: no not currently | 15:57 |
ganso | bswartz: for RC1 | 15:57 |
bswartz | ganso: CI deadline is consistently passing by Sep 24th | 15:58 |
bswartz | RC1 has no date | 15:58 |
bswartz | RC1 is when there are no open bugs | 15:58 |
bswartz | we achieve that by either fixing the bugs or targeting them to Mitaka | 15:58 |
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ganso | bswartz: on Sept 17th you said you would be pushing lower priority bugs to Mitaka, correct? | 15:59 |
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bswartz | starting Sept 17th I'm going to push unfixed bugs to Mitaka if they're not high priority | 15:59 |
bswartz | yes | 15:59 |
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ganso | bswartz: ok, got it, thanks! | 15:59 |
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bswartz | thanks everyone | 15:59 |
bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 15:59:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-09-10-15.00.html | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-09-10-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-09-10-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
xarses | #startmeeting fuel | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 16:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
xarses | #chair xarses | 16:00 |
xarses | Todays Agenda: | 16:00 |
xarses | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:00 |
xarses | Who's here? | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: xarses | 16:00 |
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angdraug | o/ | 16:00 |
akislitsky | hi | 16:00 |
mwhahaha | o/ | 16:00 |
rvyalov | hi | 16:00 |
rmoe | hi | 16:00 |
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teran | hi | 16:00 |
salmon_ | hi | 16:00 |
aglarendil | hi | 16:00 |
maximov | рш | 16:00 |
maximov | hi | 16:00 |
alex_didenko | hi | 16:00 |
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agordeev | hi | 16:01 |
ikalnitsky | o/ | 16:01 |
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salmon_ | does etherpad work for you? | 16:01 |
angdraug | no | 16:01 |
xarses | its very slow | 16:01 |
maximov | nope | 16:01 |
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maximov | issue with srt infrastructure | 16:01 |
xarses | I have the agenda up | 16:01 |
xarses | it was bad in the U.S. too | 16:01 |
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angdraug | can't blame srt for this, can't open it in US, either | 16:01 |
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bgaifullin | Hi all. | 16:02 |
angdraug | xarses: lets start? | 16:02 |
xarses | #topic community builds from master (someone from Infra team?) | 16:02 |
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xarses | angdraug: ^? | 16:02 |
angdraug | bookwar: ^ | 16:02 |
bookwar | hi | 16:02 |
xarses | =) | 16:02 |
mihgen | hi | 16:02 |
bookwar | we have builds enabled, available here https://ci.fuel-infra.org/view/ISO/ | 16:02 |
angdraug | are they using Liberty packages? | 16:03 |
bookwar | they are built from current up-to day mos8.0 repo of ubuntu packages | 16:03 |
bookwar | which means that most of the packages are still from kilo | 16:03 |
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bookwar | but as packaging team does their job they add packages from liberty to this repo | 16:04 |
mihgen | bvt2 actually runs against these builds from master there? | 16:04 |
bookwar | so we expect that this built will start to fail soon | 16:04 |
bookwar | yes | 16:04 |
xarses | when do you see that we will have the packages in place? | 16:04 |
bookwar | that a question for packaging team, i don't have enough data | 16:04 |
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mihgen | bookwar: thanks bookwar. It's great to see that we enabled master builds very soon after we've created stable/7.0 | 16:05 |
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mihgen | question about liberty packages | 16:05 |
mihgen | will we keep kilo builds running? | 16:05 |
angdraug | yes until liberty builds stabilize | 16:06 |
mihgen | angdraug: great, thanks | 16:06 |
angdraug | Fuel CI will stay with kilo until then, too | 16:06 |
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bookwar | yes, we keep 8.0-kilo builds in place, and we will use them for fuel-library ci | 16:06 |
bookwar | you can see that currently fuel-library ci uses 8.0-kilo-1 iso | 16:07 |
bookwar | status is here https://ci.fuel-infra.org/ in the Status section | 16:07 |
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xarses | moving on? | 16:08 |
mihgen | thank you guys | 16:08 |
angdraug | yes please. great job bookwar! | 16:08 |
xarses | #topic elections of nailgun, fuel-library component leads; PTL (mihgen) | 16:08 |
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mihgen | I just wanted to reiterate this. There was email to openstack-dev about code review process changes | 16:08 |
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mihgen | no one objects of having elections for component leads | 16:09 |
mihgen | and we have two largest pieces in Fuel, which are nailgun & fuel-library | 16:09 |
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mihgen | so I'd like to hear your opinions guys whether we can move forward with it | 16:09 |
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mihgen | it was also suggested to run elections at the same time as for PTL | 16:10 |
ikalnitsky | how we're going to elect component leads? from the cores? | 16:10 |
mihgen | using standard openstack procedures | 16:10 |
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xarses | So nominate your self and share your platform? | 16:10 |
aglarendil | so, we have the same nomination deadlines and voting deadlines as in upstream OSt ? | 16:10 |
angdraug | announcement of the PTL elections on openstack-dev: | 16:10 |
angdraug | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074037.html | 16:11 |
angdraug | aglarendil: yes | 16:11 |
ikalnitsky | what if no one among cores wants to be a component lead? xD | 16:11 |
mihgen | component leads - from cores, I suppose. Frankly, I'd still need to read how openstack does it currently in other projects | 16:11 |
mihgen | ikalnitsky: that's gonna be bad, that's what we want to avoid ) | 16:11 |
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angdraug | I think just following the PTL process should work for component leads, too | 16:12 |
angdraug | no need to reinvent the bicycle | 16:12 |
mihgen | two component leads will basically get freedom from feature-work assignments and can influence arhitecture of the component | 16:12 |
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mihgen | angdraug: that's my assumption as well. So I think we'd need to learn more, and propose it in openstack-dev | 16:12 |
mihgen | (I'd need to learn more at least) | 16:12 |
angdraug | and fast, nomination period opens tomorrow | 16:13 |
mihgen | nomination period where? | 16:13 |
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angdraug | voting period is September 17-24 | 16:13 |
angdraug | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_2015 | 16:13 |
xarses | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_2015 | 16:13 |
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angdraug | so we have until 17th to persuade as many Fuel cores as possible to nominate themselves :) | 16:14 |
mihgen | oh. then we'd need to try to get in the same schedule | 16:14 |
salmon_ | so one core will not work on features? | 16:14 |
mihgen | salmon_: yes. | 16:15 |
aglarendil | folks, one question, it seems that OSt has its own voting platform | 16:15 |
xarses | salmon_: component lead should not work on features | 16:15 |
angdraug | salmon_: yes except that will be doing specs/design review for all features for that component | 16:15 |
aglarendil | did we arrange all the details that we will have the same platform used? | 16:15 |
aglarendil | or will we conduct votese calculation on ourselves? | 16:15 |
salmon_ | nailgun is to big for it | 16:15 |
mihgen | salmon_: too big for what? | 16:16 |
aglarendil | for having one Lead, says salmon_ | 16:16 |
salmon_ | mihgen: to have on lead | 16:16 |
salmon_ | *one | 16:16 |
alex_didenko | are we going to re-elect component leads on a periodic basis? | 16:16 |
aglarendil | alex_didenko: according to OSt workflow - yes | 16:16 |
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aglarendil | each six months | 16:16 |
mihgen | aglarendil: I don't know frankly, not sure if angdraug is aware. As I said, we'd need to analyze how it works now in openstack | 16:17 |
aglarendil | mihgen: angdraug we would need to rush with this | 16:17 |
angdraug | at the very least we can reuse the voting system, anyone can use that | 16:17 |
angdraug | aglarendil: true | 16:17 |
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xarses | angdraug: can I give you an action to follow up on that? | 16:18 |
maximov | mihgen what is your expectations from component lead. bullet points... | 16:18 |
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mihgen | salmon_: well, may be. But with modularization we've started a work on, I'd expect more and more modules to become independent expertise areas, where we may grow other leads | 16:18 |
salmon_ | I hope so :) | 16:18 |
angdraug | xarses: yes | 16:18 |
xarses | #action angdraug will follow up on usage of upstream voting system | 16:18 |
mihgen | maximov: you can find it in my email about code review... and we'd need another one with more data | 16:19 |
mihgen | in short - architecture, quality, making it easy for others to contribute the code | 16:19 |
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xarses | mike, lets create a new mail thread back in the ML and request candidates | 16:19 |
mihgen | catch majority of bugs on review/gating, not a month after code merge | 16:19 |
maximov | mihgen ok, but what about community work. will component lead drive communication w/ community? | 16:19 |
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mihgen | maximov: yes. | 16:20 |
maximov | I think we missed this part | 16:20 |
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mihgen | it's going to be way more important for PTL | 16:20 |
mihgen | but PTL would rely on component leads for specific areas | 16:20 |
xarses | #action mihgen will create a new ML covering duties, duration, and nomination pool for component leads and request candidates | 16:21 |
mihgen | for instance, fuel-library component lead will have to work closely with puppet-openstack, ansible-openstack if needed, etc. | 16:21 |
ikalnitsky | and what about nailgun lead? | 16:21 |
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ikalnitsky | we don't have community | 16:21 |
xarses | thats not true | 16:21 |
mihgen | ikalnitsky: we will be building one + there are other areas of Fuel, where integration is needed | 16:21 |
xarses | also they would need to work with the current compute project so that the API's are aligned. I forgot their name | 16:22 |
angdraug | plugin developers are part of nailgun community | 16:22 |
angdraug | xarses: tuskar | 16:22 |
mihgen | all these integration questions with whatever other components / pieces, plugable architecture falls into this category | 16:22 |
angdraug | ? | 16:22 |
xarses | angdraug: thanks, yes | 16:22 |
mihgen | there should be a balance, common sense in prioritization of work | 16:23 |
maximov | mihgen I only have one concern, component lead will be doing a lot of review, communication, architecture etc.. but what about writing code, what would be a trigger for component lead to contribute to the code? | 16:24 |
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xarses | maximov: mostly, they won't be, they won't really have time | 16:24 |
mihgen | angdraug: are we waiting for your message or that was question mark for something else? | 16:24 |
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angdraug | angdraug: that was question to xarses, he replied already | 16:25 |
mihgen | maximov: that's ok if component lead will write way less of code | 16:25 |
xarses | lets go back to the ML and discuss further, we need to move along through the schedule for today | 16:25 |
maximov | xarses well, don't you think that in this case component lead will loose his expertise.. | 16:25 |
mihgen | but it's important to write code which defines framework for others to work within | 16:25 |
aglarendil | folks, sorry to interrupt, can we discuss details of elections and roles in the ML? we spent almost 25 minutes on that | 16:25 |
xarses | maximov: by reviewing, it shouldn't be much of an issue | 16:25 |
mihgen | let's move on | 16:26 |
xarses | #topic backlog of small enhancements (gaps in functionality) to work on: http://bit.ly/1Nk9rmI (mihgen) | 16:26 |
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mihgen | #link http://bit.ly/1Nk9rmI | 16:26 |
mihgen | that's what we have in our launchpad | 16:26 |
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mihgen | bugs with "feature" tag | 16:26 |
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mihgen | they in fact form our backlog of small enhancements | 16:26 |
mihgen | so my proposal is to continue using launchpad for small feature gaps | 16:27 |
angdraug | +1 | 16:27 |
mihgen | and let enhancements team go through this backlog | 16:27 |
maximov | +1 | 16:27 |
mihgen | in kanban-like model | 16:27 |
alex_didenko | one small note - we have many different tags, "fueature-*" | 16:27 |
mihgen | alex_didenko: nope those are different | 16:27 |
alex_didenko | so it's not very convenient to filter all of them | 16:27 |
angdraug | feature-* is about bugs introduced by a feature | 16:27 |
mihgen | those are for taxonomy of bugs | 16:27 |
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xarses | alex_didenko: those should be for bugs that relate only to that feature (usually because it caused them) | 16:28 |
angdraug | "feature" is for bugs which require a requests for enhancement | 16:28 |
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aglarendil | mihgen: there should be more of them. we need to go thoroughly through bugs and retriage all of them | 16:28 |
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alex_didenko | I deffinitely saw new feature requests in bugs with feature-* tags | 16:28 |
aglarendil | some of them miss feature tag | 16:28 |
aglarendil | and some are duplicates | 16:28 |
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mihgen | then we'd need to do triaging, and mark accordingly | 16:29 |
xarses | alex_didenko: we'd need to kick them back to 'feature' then | 16:29 |
alex_didenko | and inform out engineers about tags | 16:29 |
mihgen | but I hope there are no objections on using launchpad. We already have many feature requests in there, and introducing something else like trello would be an overkill really | 16:29 |
alex_didenko | we need to gather info about tags in some single place, like wiki | 16:29 |
mihgen | alex_didenko: +1 | 16:30 |
maximov | ashtokolov is working on the process, how we will organize this work | 16:30 |
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salmon_ | I think there is wiki page for tags, at least for nailgun | 16:30 |
xarses | salmon_: thats what I thought | 16:30 |
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xarses | who will take action for preparing this mail since it still causes confusion? | 16:31 |
ashtokolov | maximov mihgen I'm working on it | 16:31 |
mihgen | ashtokolov: since you are working on it, can you please then let everyone know in openstack-dev about "feature" tag, etc. ? | 16:31 |
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ashtokolov | mihgen ok I got it | 16:31 |
alex_didenko | salmon_: I think it should be somewhere on this page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/How_to_contribute#Test_and_report_bugs and for whole fuel | 16:31 |
mihgen | xarses: action item for ashtokolov .. ? | 16:32 |
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angdraug | alex_didenko: +1 | 16:32 |
salmon_ | alex_didenko: it's on our internal wiki :/ | 16:32 |
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angdraug | should be on wiki.openstack.org/Fuel | 16:32 |
alex_didenko | yeah, we should remove such infro from internal resources and update public wiki | 16:32 |
xarses | #action ashtokolov will send out ML about usage of 'feature' tag; will start conversation about usage of other tags | 16:32 |
mihgen | great. moving on? | 16:32 |
mihgen | sorry guys for abusing half of the meeting on my topics | 16:33 |
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xarses | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/7.0.x/+bug/1491576 (holser) | 16:33 |
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openstack | Launchpad bug 7 in Launchpad itself "Need help for novice translators" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Данило Шеган (danilo) | 16:33 |
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aglarendil | folks, I need to get off the desktop - I will be online on the smartphone. Please do not forget to mention me | 16:34 |
mihgen | sgolovatiuk ^^ | 16:34 |
xarses | Looks like the issue is resolved already. Is there anything else to discuss sgolovatiuk ? | 16:34 |
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mihgen | we still use holser for sgolovatiuk ) | 16:34 |
sgolovatiuk | I wouls say it's workarounded | 16:34 |
sgolovatiuk | :) | 16:34 |
mihgen | randomized logrotate time? | 16:35 |
xarses | mihgen: it would work fine if he has his irc client set with the nickname | 16:35 |
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maximov | is it backported to stable/7.0 ? | 16:35 |
sgolovatiuk | the problem exists - sometimes mod_wsgo seg fault on USR1 signal | 16:35 |
alex_didenko | let's use copytruncate and do not reload apache at all | 16:35 |
sgolovatiuk | randomized logrotate helped | 16:35 |
sgolovatiuk | so we will never restart all controllers at the same time | 16:36 |
sgolovatiuk | however, alex_didenko proposed to remove postinstall and replace it with copytruncate | 16:36 |
sgolovatiuk | in this case apache won't be restarted at all | 16:36 |
mihgen | this would be certainly better, but I'd leave it for master only. let's stop for stable/7.0.. | 16:37 |
sgolovatiuk | aglarendil is still investigating scale up/down issue with apache and keystone | 16:37 |
sgolovatiuk | k | 16:37 |
mihgen | we'd need to create a bug for it though so not to forget about it | 16:37 |
sgolovatiuk | fo 7.0 we won't be adding anything | 16:37 |
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sgolovatiuk | we stopped playing with fantom bugs | 16:37 |
xarses | phantom | 16:38 |
sgolovatiuk | random is enough for now | 16:38 |
sgolovatiuk | thnx xarses | 16:38 |
mihgen | sgolovatiuk: so do we have bug for 8.0 about copytruncate? | 16:38 |
sgolovatiuk | we have bug for 8.0 | 16:38 |
mihgen | ok great then | 16:38 |
mihgen | thanks sgolovatiuk | 16:38 |
xarses | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/7.0.x/+bug/1493483 (smakar) | 16:38 |
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openstack | Launchpad bug 7 in Launchpad itself "Need help for novice translators" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Данило Шеган (danilo) | 16:38 |
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mihgen | what is Данило Шеган ?) | 16:39 |
mwhahaha | the url parsing is bad | 16:39 |
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xarses | but in bot | 16:40 |
mwhahaha | it's getting fuel/7.0.x/... and thinking it's bug #7 | 16:40 |
openstack | bug 7 in Launchpad itself "Need help for novice translators" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7 - Assigned to Данило Шеган (danilo) | 16:40 |
xarses | I just poked infra guys about it | 16:40 |
mihgen | :D | 16:40 |
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mwhahaha | bug #1493483 | 16:40 |
openstack | bug 1493483 in Fuel for OpenStack "Pacemaker service is unable to be started in time when zabbix plugins enabled" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1493483 - Assigned to Ksenia Demina (kdemina) | 16:40 |
ikalnitsky | why it's assigned on Ksenia? | 16:41 |
mihgen | aglarendil: dilyin do you guys know context here? ^^ | 16:41 |
maximov | we asked her to retest this case | 16:41 |
ikalnitsky | or, miss that | 16:41 |
maximov | without zabbiz plugin | 16:41 |
mihgen | so it seems like more incomplete.. ? | 16:42 |
maximov | well, yes | 16:42 |
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mihgen | bug log clearly shows error in deployment | 16:42 |
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mihgen | which is unlikely to be related to zabbix.. | 16:42 |
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maximov | but we have similar tests in swarm | 16:43 |
maximov | which works | 16:43 |
mihgen | from smakar there: "It has just been reproduced again" | 16:43 |
maximov | the only difference is zabbix | 16:43 |
mihgen | "the root cause that pacemaker could not start on node-13 node-14" | 16:43 |
mihgen | it might be a problem which is not always reproduced | 16:44 |
aglarendil | This is an old update | 16:44 |
sgolovatiuk | mihgen: that lab was broken also | 16:44 |
sgolovatiuk | I proposed to retry on clean env with recent ISO | 16:44 |
maximov | yes. at least with 288 | 16:45 |
mihgen | ok. We need a lab I think guys | 16:45 |
mihgen | so if she reproduces a bug, we need someone to take a look... | 16:45 |
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mihgen | someone experienced in our HA.. | 16:45 |
sgolovatiuk | k | 16:45 |
mihgen | logs don't seem to be enough.. | 16:46 |
mihgen | ok.. thanks for the update on this bug. moving on? | 16:46 |
sgolovatiuk | yep | 16:46 |
xarses | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1493390 (ikalnitsky) | 16:46 |
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openstack | Launchpad bug 1493390 in Fuel for OpenStack 8.0.x "Deployment failed on connectivity check to http://mirror.fuel-infra.org/mos-repos/ubuntu/7.0/ after stop deployment action " [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel build team (fuel-build) | 16:46 |
ikalnitsky | actually, guys, the issue is pretty simple. sometimes we face a connectivity issue in our system tests before deployment | 16:46 |
ikalnitsky | unfortunately, we don't even log a response status code, and after env revert (obviously) everything's working fine. | 16:47 |
ikalnitsky | i remember we had a similar issue last release. | 16:47 |
ikalnitsky | so i've prepared a patch that adds 3 retries and logs response status code | 16:47 |
ikalnitsky | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222172/ | 16:47 |
ikalnitsky | but i'm not sure about backporting to stable/7.0 | 16:47 |
ikalnitsky | i think it's medium if it's not often | 16:47 |
ikalnitsky | is there any QA around? could someone comment how often we face it? | 16:47 |
ikalnitsky | that's it :) | 16:47 |
mihgen | ikalnitsky: I'd say it's medium | 16:47 |
ikalnitsky | so mark it as won't fix for 7.0 ? | 16:47 |
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ddmitriev | ikalnitsky: we faced it about once a week, maybe a little more often | 16:48 |
mihgen | more over, if it is reproduced only at certain time (like stop during certain phase), then I can't really say it's high | 16:48 |
aglarendil | It very much could be the issue with default route that we fixed | 16:48 |
mihgen | to me, frankly, stop of deployment in general is not a blocking from release feature | 16:48 |
ikalnitsky | mihgen: we do have this check only in before deployment checks.. when you add new nodes | 16:48 |
ddmitriev | mihgeh: if our repositories are failed for customers - it isn't looks like production ready | 16:49 |
ikalnitsky | but if it fails, you can retry it manually again | 16:49 |
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aglarendil | Folks Can we try to reproduce it with the latest ISO? | 16:49 |
mihgen | if there is an easy workaround - it's not Critical then for sure | 16:49 |
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mihgen | and now we don't accept anything but critical bugfixes to stable/7.0 | 16:50 |
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mihgen | so I don't know why we need to even think about backporting, if it's not a critical bug .. | 16:50 |
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ikalnitsky | mihgen: agree | 16:50 |
xarses | why cant we propose it to stable/7.0 | 16:50 |
xarses | then if we cut a new iso it's there | 16:51 |
xarses | otherwise don't cut a new iso just for this | 16:51 |
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mihgen | xarses: because we are in HCF | 16:51 |
xarses | I think it's important to have retries here | 16:51 |
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mihgen | xarses: I'd be rather strict | 16:51 |
xarses | one shot is, well quite lame | 16:51 |
mihgen | and follow agreement | 16:51 |
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mihgen | we have enough backports,which introduce regressions sometimes | 16:51 |
aglarendil | It could be fixed by l3 clear route patch | 16:51 |
mihgen | xarses: it can also be targeted to updates | 16:52 |
angdraug | xarses: +1 to mihgen, even a trivial change introduces a chance of regressions, we have to be very conservative | 16:52 |
mihgen | and delivered in updates channel after release | 16:52 |
ikalnitsky | +1 here | 16:52 |
ikalnitsky | let's move it to updates, if someone think it's important | 16:52 |
ikalnitsky | but i'd remove from 7.0 at all | 16:52 |
mihgen | ok great. | 16:53 |
mihgen | moving on? | 16:53 |
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xarses | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1494314 (idv1985) | 16:53 |
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openstack | Launchpad bug 1494314 in Fuel for OpenStack "Add of detached keystone node to existing cluster failed with Call cib_apply_diff failed (-205): Update was older than existing configuration" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Dmitry Ilyin (idv1985) | 16:53 |
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dilyin | this bug is because we have not refactored haproxy_ocf to use pacemaker wrappers as all other services do. Because of that cluster-haproxy task is failing when it's being run on non-controller nodes as detached keystone plugin does | 16:55 |
dilyin | we can either remove hardcoded primary-controller role from the task or finish the task refactoring | 16:55 |
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aglarendil | dilyin: I suppose we just fix haproxy tasj | 16:56 |
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mihgen | I'd vote for proper fix in master, and don't backport anything to stable/7.0 now | 16:56 |
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dilyin | actually i'm going to do both | 16:56 |
aglarendil | It is a simple similar change that can be automatically fixed by our ci | 16:56 |
mihgen | since it's not critical.. | 16:56 |
angdraug | looks intrusive to me, do we really want to make commits like that in 7.0 before HCF? | 16:56 |
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aglarendil | It is actually critical mihgen | 16:56 |
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aglarendil | It breaks detached services feature | 16:57 |
mihgen | "before HCF" ? | 16:57 |
angdraug | err, I meant after HCF of course | 16:57 |
mihgen | aglarendil: for all services or just keystone? | 16:57 |
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aglarendil | And the change is similar to the same for other services | 16:57 |
dilyin | i'll post the quick fix to make it work and we'll be able to inish refactoring on the next release | 16:58 |
mihgen | I'd consider delivering of a fix in updates channel | 16:58 |
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xarses | 2 min | 16:59 |
xarses | 1 | 16:59 |
mihgen | this feature is fairly complex and requires a lot of additional work anyway | 16:59 |
angdraug | time | 16:59 |
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xarses | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
mihgen | so I think we should be "conservative" here as well... | 16:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 16:59:41 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-09-10-16.00.html | 16:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-09-10-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-09-10-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
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tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 17:00:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
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tmcpeak | #chair hyakuhei | 17:00 |
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openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: hyakuhei | 17:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: hyakuhei tmcpeak | 17:00 |
elmiko | o/ | 17:00 |
tmcpeak | wassup e'rybody | 17:00 |
tmcpeak | I'll give a few minutes for people to trickle in | 17:00 |
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* bknudson o/ | 17:00 | |
tkelsey | o/ | 17:00 |
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jian5397 | o/ | 17:00 |
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redrobot | o/ | 17:01 |
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tmcpeak | good to see you all | 17:01 |
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tmcpeak | hope you've recovered from your travels back from midcycle for those who went | 17:01 |
tmcpeak | hyakuhei might be out saving lives (literally) | 17:01 |
michaelxin | will try to multitask for another meeting. sorry in advance. | 17:01 |
browne | hi | 17:01 |
tmcpeak | so he's asked me to run today | 17:01 |
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hyakuhei | o/ | 17:02 |
tmcpeak | ahh speak of the devil | 17:02 |
tmcpeak | want to run it Mr. Rob? | 17:02 |
tmcpeak | I've added you as a chair already | 17:02 |
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tmcpeak | you're efficient | 17:02 |
hyakuhei | Can you take the first 5 minutes please? I need to cool off hehe | 17:02 |
tmcpeak | sure, wlll do | 17:02 |
hyakuhei | Danke | 17:02 |
tmcpeak | ok | 17:02 |
bknudson | more refugees? | 17:02 |
tmcpeak | #topic Midcycle Recap | 17:03 |
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hyakuhei | bknudson: drunk students. | 17:03 |
tmcpeak | we got a lot done last week | 17:03 |
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dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:03 |
tmcpeak | tons of work on Anchor, Bandit, and other projects | 17:03 |
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tmcpeak | I'd like to do a small recap of each activity for those that weren't there and try to assemble next steps to make sure we don't lose momentum | 17:03 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: care to start with our architecture overview? | 17:03 |
elmiko | sure | 17:03 |
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elmiko | we discussed, at some length, the ideas surrounding secure comms between the control plane(also known as under-cloud) and the tenant space | 17:04 |
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elmiko | the results of our discussion are an architecture around passing credentials to nodes in the tenent | 17:04 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: did we end up formalizing and posting that anywhere? | 17:05 |
elmiko | the architecture addresses a privilege dropping scheme | 17:05 |
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elmiko | tmcpeak: working on that | 17:05 |
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tmcpeak | awesome | 17:05 |
tmcpeak | seems like a good devstack post at least, maybe BP coming? | 17:05 |
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elmiko | the priv. drop scheme will, hopefully, create a nice way for projects to have their nodes in tenant space gain the creds necessary to perform actions on cloud resources (such as swift( | 17:05 |
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tmcpeak | cool, yeah, seemed promising | 17:06 |
elmiko | this also roles in some interesting ideas about endpoint access as well | 17:06 |
elmiko | i am working on a formalized writeup in a spec-ish format for us to bat around | 17:06 |
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tmcpeak | for those that weren't there and are interested we'll have a formal writeup from this and some diagrams to better illustrate | 17:06 |
elmiko | i'm also gonna do a poc with sahara as the target | 17:06 |
tmcpeak | perfect | 17:06 |
michaelxin | tmcpeak: cool. Thanks. | 17:06 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: we'll look forward to that | 17:07 |
elmiko | we should probaby talk more at the summit as well, but hopefully we'll have something formal to talk about and a poc to demo | 17:07 |
hyakuhei | elmiko: thank you so much for looking into this | 17:07 |
bknudson | we'll need a summit session | 17:07 |
hyakuhei | and doing the documentation | 17:07 |
tmcpeak | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:07 |
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tmcpeak | this seems really useful | 17:07 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: np, thinking about the docs has actually surfaced new questions for me. so it will be nice to rip it apart =) | 17:07 |
hyakuhei | So I think we came up with some nice ideas. I love the idea of working on a poc | 17:07 |
bknudson | will they have lightning talks? maybe a good place for a demo | 17:08 |
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tmcpeak | bknudson: +1 | 17:08 |
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hyakuhei | I’m planning to have a fishbowl on this auth stuff | 17:08 |
elmiko | cool | 17:08 |
tmcpeak | hyakuhei: you cooled off? want to talk about anchor progress? | 17:08 |
bknudson | maybe combine with a(nother) dynamic policies | 17:08 |
hyakuhei | Yeah happy to | 17:08 |
bknudson | dynamic policies discussion | 17:08 |
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elmiko | bknudson: +1 | 17:09 |
bknudson | although that might be too much for 1 room. | 17:09 |
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hyakuhei | cool off also equals do all the things I was supposed to do but couldn’t because I was on a lifeboat rescuing drunk people :P | 17:09 |
hyakuhei | #topic Anchor | 17:09 |
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hyakuhei | Finally tagged with a version pre-api breaking changes being accepted | 17:09 |
hyakuhei | I also created some docker containers to make spinning up test instances a bit easier | 17:09 |
bknudson | next time bring a drone and post on youtube. | 17:09 |
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hyakuhei | As this is what all the cool kids are doing | 17:10 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: is the container working well? | 17:10 |
hyakuhei | Seems to :) | 17:10 |
hyakuhei | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221285/ | 17:10 |
hyakuhei | I’d appreciate people kicking the tyres on that | 17:10 |
hyakuhei | if, unlike tmcpeak you could look the Readme first thatd be great ;) | 17:10 |
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tmcpeak | haha | 17:11 |
dg___ | hey, sorry Im late | 17:11 |
hyakuhei | In other news I created a docker org for openstack security | 17:12 |
hyakuhei | So if you want to be added ping me your username | 17:12 |
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elmiko | nice | 17:12 |
tmcpeak | RTFM is actually useful sometimes ;) | 17:13 |
hyakuhei | It’s nice because it makes things look legit :P | 17:13 |
hyakuhei | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221285/5/Dockerfile.anchorbase - topline | 17:13 |
hyakuhei | So I think that’s all I had on anchor - tkelsey ? | 17:13 |
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hyakuhei | I guess that’s it then | 17:14 |
hyakuhei | #topic Bandit | 17:14 |
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tmcpeak | tons of work done last week | 17:14 |
tmcpeak | largely around unit tests, tkelsey refactored result store, I wrote a little tool to automated upstream project checks | 17:15 |
tmcpeak | chair6 has added multi-threading | 17:15 |
tmcpeak | (in flight) | 17:15 |
elmiko | nice | 17:15 |
tmcpeak | ccneill has an output formatter done | 17:15 |
tmcpeak | well in review | 17:15 |
tmcpeak | I'm sure there's lots of stuff that I"m fogetting | 17:15 |
tkelsey | hey, sorry stepped away for a sec | 17:15 |
tmcpeak | elmiko, browne, chair6, tkelsey, bknudson, what else? | 17:15 |
tkelsey | so i posted to the ML about Bandit next steps etc | 17:15 |
hyakuhei | fyi I created a Bandit team under the “openstacksecurity” org if you guys want to consume some of the coolaid. | 17:16 |
tkelsey | pleas read and voice any thoughts there :) thanks | 17:16 |
bknudson | fixed a bunch of bugs | 17:16 |
browne | i had a question on bandit | 17:16 |
tmcpeak | browne: what's up? | 17:16 |
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tkelsey | browne: ? | 17:16 |
browne | tox.ini shows it tests with pypy, but do we care about it? | 17:16 |
browne | and what version if we do? | 17:16 |
tkelsey | the Pypy tests come from copy n past of boilerplate tox code | 17:17 |
elmiko | yea, the pypy stuff always causes me trouble | 17:17 |
browne | ok, so are we cool if i remove it? | 17:18 |
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tkelsey | I am ok with it | 17:18 |
tmcpeak | sounds good to me | 17:18 |
tkelsey | with removing it, that is | 17:18 |
browne | ok, cool | 17:18 |
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browne | what about the crypto tracking? how's that coming along? | 17:18 |
tkelsey | FYI: Bandit thread: #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073723.html | 17:19 |
tkelsey | browne: so the crypto stuff needs a report formatter, I'll start working on that soon, but have had no time | 17:19 |
tmcpeak | browne: good point, where did we get with that? | 17:19 |
chair6 | i got distracted by concurrency :) | 17:19 |
tkelsey | yeah chair6 :) I spotted you did somthing for that, ill have to check it ou | 17:20 |
tkelsey | *out | 17:20 |
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browne | ok, np. just interested because i think it'll be very useful | 17:20 |
tkelsey | browne: +1 | 17:20 |
tkelsey | im going to find time to work on it as well, just haven't managed yet | 17:20 |
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tmcpeak | tkelsey: this post looks good | 17:21 |
tkelsey | tmcpeak: thanks, I invite people to follow up, so we have a more active showing on the list etc | 17:21 |
hyakuhei | Yeah good email | 17:21 |
tmcpeak | also it looks like severity filtering might be broken, git blame tkelsey? :) | 17:21 |
tkelsey | heh, probably my bad | 17:22 |
tkelsey | bug it and i'll go fix it | 17:22 |
tmcpeak | cool, will do | 17:22 |
tkelsey | chair6: do you want to talk about your concurrency stuff ? | 17:23 |
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tkelsey | tmcpeak: I'll add in unit tests while fixing stuff as well | 17:23 |
tmcpeak | tkelsey: you the man | 17:23 |
tkelsey | not if i broke it :P | 17:24 |
tmcpeak | but you're fixing it and adding unit tests :) | 17:24 |
chair6 | https://review.openstack.org/221861 is where the initial stab at multiprocessing is | 17:24 |
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browne | we could really use unit tests of the manager.py | 17:24 |
chair6 | take a look at the code and at the discussion, add your own thoughts :) | 17:24 |
tkelsey | browne: +1 and lots of other places :) | 17:24 |
tmcpeak | manager seems to be one of the big remaining areas | 17:25 |
tkelsey | chair6: will do! interesting stuff | 17:25 |
tmcpeak | chair6: nice simple approach | 17:25 |
tmcpeak | I like it | 17:25 |
browne | yeah, but manager.py is the big one. | 17:25 |
tmcpeak | that might be good on Bandit for now | 17:26 |
tmcpeak | ? | 17:26 |
tkelsey | ok, we should focus on that next then | 17:26 |
tmcpeak | I want to squawk about recruiting ;) | 17:26 |
tkelsey | im good for bandit stuff, chair6 looks like a tidy patch :) | 17:26 |
tkelsey | browne: I'll look at manager testing as well | 17:27 |
tmcpeak | thanks tkelsey | 17:27 |
browne | tkelsey: thanks. | 17:27 |
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tmcpeak | since hyakuhei isn't stopping me, I'll squawk about recruiting | 17:27 |
tmcpeak | so we'd like to get some new membership for OSSG | 17:27 |
tkelsey | tmcpeak: +1 | 17:27 |
tmcpeak | we have a lot of great projects in flight | 17:27 |
tmcpeak | but seems like we'll become spread thinly if we aren't already | 17:27 |
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hyakuhei | Yeah - very thin | 17:28 |
tmcpeak | for example some of the agenda items at the midcycle we couldn't address and nobody was available to lead | 17:28 |
tmcpeak | I started OSSG with a talk bdpayne and nkinder were doing in the Bay | 17:28 |
tmcpeak | I'd like to get similar talks going again | 17:28 |
hyakuhei | +2 | 17:28 |
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tmcpeak | so we worked on a deck last week | 17:28 |
tmcpeak | think it's in fairly good shape | 17:28 |
tmcpeak | talks about OpenStack Security and all the related efforts | 17:28 |
hyakuhei | Yeah, needs a few tweaks still | 17:28 |
hyakuhei | Probably runs 10-15 minutes | 17:29 |
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michaelxin | it looks good now | 17:29 |
tmcpeak | is anybody who hasn't said so already interested in presenting locally? | 17:29 |
tmcpeak | so far we have bknudson will do one in wherever it is he lives ;) | 17:29 |
tmcpeak | hyakuhei and dg_ are going to do one in London'ish area | 17:30 |
tkelsey | dg___: got any info on the london one? | 17:30 |
tmcpeak | browne and I will do the bay | 17:30 |
michaelxin | I will do in San Antonio and Austin | 17:30 |
tmcpeak | michaelxin is going to do something in Texas somewheres | 17:30 |
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bknudson | there's a minnesota meetup every once in a while | 17:30 |
hyakuhei | I was considering trying to piggyback some on local OWASP meetups etc | 17:30 |
bknudson | kyle mestery chairs it | 17:30 |
tmcpeak | also I should mention that we'll take a three pronged approach where possible 1) openstack meetup, 2) security focused meetup (like OWASP), 3) perhaps something for a security program in a university | 17:31 |
mestery | bknudson: Ack, would love to get folks there! | 17:31 |
tmcpeak | that's kind of where we got to | 17:31 |
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tmcpeak | I want to make sure this does't get dropped though | 17:31 |
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tmcpeak | some effort on our part here could boost our numbers meaningfully going forward | 17:32 |
michaelxin | I will use OWASP meet up first. | 17:32 |
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tmcpeak | michaelxin: please let us know how it goes | 17:32 |
bknudson | mestery: at the last security group meetup we discussed doing an intro to openstack security group at meetups. | 17:32 |
hyakuhei | Excellent, thank you tmcpeak | 17:32 |
tkelsey | +1 | 17:32 |
michaelxin | Should we track our presentations ? | 17:32 |
tmcpeak | michaelxin: yeah, definitely | 17:32 |
mestery | bknudson: That would be pretty epic! Would love to get that in at our Minnesota meetup | 17:32 |
hyakuhei | wikipage maybe? | 17:32 |
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bknudson | mestery: great, we can discuss offline. | 17:33 |
tmcpeak | hyakuhei: sure or etherpad | 17:33 |
tmcpeak | I had one but I lost it | 17:33 |
mestery | bknudson: ack | 17:33 |
tmcpeak | should probably start a new one | 17:33 |
hyakuhei | hehe | 17:33 |
tmcpeak | let's use this: | 17:33 |
tmcpeak | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-project-recruiting | 17:33 |
browne | so who will be first guinea pig for the presos? | 17:33 |
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tmcpeak | browne: we'll have to do ours later | 17:34 |
tmcpeak | I'll be out of the bay until mid December | 17:34 |
browne | tmcpeak: np | 17:34 |
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tmcpeak | oh forgot to mention chair6 and sicarie are doing Seattle :) | 17:35 |
michaelxin | I will try to do one for OWASP San Antonio in October since September is already booked. | 17:35 |
tmcpeak | michaelxin: great | 17:35 |
tmcpeak | meanwhile I'll continue to refine the deck | 17:35 |
tmcpeak | is there anybody that's interested that doesn't have access to the deck? | 17:35 |
michaelxin | Austin will have LASCON | 17:35 |
tmcpeak | PM me your google docs email addy | 17:35 |
michaelxin | We will try to present there too. | 17:35 |
hyakuhei | Any resemblence of the current recruitment deck to other HP decks is purely conincidental…. | 17:35 |
tmcpeak | :P | 17:35 |
hyakuhei | As they’re almost certainly copyright... | 17:35 |
michaelxin | LASCON is next month. | 17:36 |
hyakuhei | So yeah, shiny and new :) | 17:36 |
tmcpeak | action items here? | 17:36 |
tmcpeak | want to make sure this doesn't stall out | 17:36 |
hyakuhei | Volunteer yourself, update the etherpad | 17:36 |
hyakuhei | refine the deck | 17:36 |
tmcpeak | michaelxin, browne, hyakuhei, dg_, chair6 can you each take a few minutes this week and try to refine the deck? | 17:36 |
tmcpeak | bknudson | 17:36 |
hyakuhei | Add non-HP content (none of the content is vendor specific but more authors is probably better) | 17:36 |
hyakuhei | tmcpeak: Sure | 17:37 |
dg___ | tmcpeak sure | 17:37 |
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michaelxin | tmcpeak: Got it. | 17:37 |
tmcpeak | awesome, thank you | 17:37 |
hyakuhei | Well, I’ll try, drunk people are making it hard for me today lol | 17:37 |
elmiko | lol | 17:37 |
browne | tmcpeak: i'll try. flying to Purdue tomorrow for a career fair event | 17:37 |
tmcpeak | I'm definitely going to get hammered and go boating when I visit UK this December | 17:37 |
elmiko | haha | 17:37 |
tmcpeak | and demand for hyakuhei to personally come save me | 17:37 |
tkelsey | lol | 17:37 |
tmcpeak | cool, so that's probably good for recruiting | 17:38 |
tmcpeak | michaelxin: summary for Syntribos? | 17:38 |
hyakuhei | Yeah that’d be cool | 17:38 |
michaelxin | I already updated that part | 17:38 |
michaelxin | for the slide | 17:39 |
tmcpeak | no I mean summarize on where we got during midcycle please | 17:39 |
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michaelxin | ic | 17:39 |
michaelxin | I gave a demonstration to the group about its current function including different ways to fuzz | 17:39 |
michaelxin | how to run it. | 17:39 |
michaelxin | configuration and payloads. | 17:40 |
michaelxin | There are some good feedbacks. | 17:40 |
tmcpeak | I really enjoyed the demo | 17:40 |
tmcpeak | great work michaelxin and team | 17:40 |
michaelxin | Thanks. | 17:40 |
tmcpeak | did we identify concrete next steps to drive it forward? | 17:40 |
michaelxin | The group liked it and wanted me to move it to Stackforge. | 17:40 |
michaelxin | I already got the process started. | 17:40 |
tkelsey | michaelxin: +1 | 17:40 |
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tmcpeak | awesome! | 17:40 |
tkelsey | nice | 17:40 |
michaelxin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220351/ | 17:40 |
elmiko | +1, syntribos demo was nice | 17:40 |
michaelxin | elmiko: tkelsey Thanks. | 17:41 |
tmcpeak | awesome | 17:41 |
michaelxin | At the same time, send me more feedbacks. | 17:41 |
tmcpeak | michaelxin: will do, it's on my queue of things to try to break things with Syntribos | 17:41 |
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michaelxin | I will meet my team and give them update syntribos. | 17:41 |
tkelsey | michaelxin: looking forward to seeing it land :) | 17:41 |
michaelxin | tmcpeak: Thanks. | 17:41 |
tmcpeak | also we pretty much smashed through the OSSN queue :P | 17:42 |
hyakuhei | Yeah we did | 17:42 |
hyakuhei | Though there’s plenty waiting for late +2s | 17:42 |
tmcpeak | cool, anything we need to do there to get those through? | 17:42 |
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hyakuhei | They need iterating through, making sure we’ve got project cores | 17:43 |
tmcpeak | who are our +2's? hyakuhei, sicarie, elmiko, and nkinder? | 17:43 |
hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:43 |
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tmcpeak | cool, what's the best way to get those finished? | 17:43 |
elmiko | i'll take another pass through the open ones | 17:43 |
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tmcpeak | better earlier while they're still fresh ;) | 17:43 |
hyakuhei | I’ll run through them tonight and badger people | 17:44 |
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tmcpeak | perfect | 17:44 |
elmiko | i can't +2 my own though... ;) | 17:44 |
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elmiko | well i can, but you know | 17:44 |
hyakuhei | elmiko: I’ve got you covered bro! | 17:44 |
elmiko | ^5 hyakuhei | 17:44 |
tmcpeak | awww | 17:45 |
hyakuhei | hehe | 17:45 |
tmcpeak | what a loving community | 17:45 |
michaelxin | tmcpeak: +1 | 17:45 |
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hyakuhei | #topic Any other business | 17:45 |
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hyakuhei | I just want to say a massive thank you to everyone who’s helped and contributed to our work recently | 17:46 |
tmcpeak | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:46 |
tkelsey | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:46 |
michaelxin | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:46 |
browne | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:46 |
tmcpeak | I'm always amazed how much we get done at these things | 17:46 |
hyakuhei | The Security project has so many cool activities running now, we’re generating great cotent, grokking the code, providing ways to encrypt many of the things etc. It’s awesome. | 17:46 |
tmcpeak | and it's always nice to meet face to face | 17:46 |
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hyakuhei | +1 | 17:47 |
tmcpeak | ++ | 17:47 |
elmiko | hear hear, +1 | 17:47 |
browne | true that | 17:47 |
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tmcpeak | hyakuhei: should we start planning for summit things now? | 17:48 |
tmcpeak | or later? | 17:48 |
tmcpeak | I won't be there but it sounds like quite a few of you will | 17:48 |
browne | tmcpeak: good point | 17:48 |
hyakuhei | tmcpeak: It’s started | 17:49 |
hyakuhei | We’ve got two fish bowls and two work rooms | 17:49 |
hyakuhei | Bandit can have a WR if it wants it | 17:49 |
hyakuhei | Not sure about the other WR | 17:49 |
hyakuhei | FB - one will be the multil privilege auth issue | 17:49 |
browne | should we start an etherpad? | 17:49 |
tkelsey | hyakuhei: great start | 17:49 |
hyakuhei | yes | 17:49 |
tmcpeak | might be cool to do some inter-project socializing | 17:49 |
tmcpeak | of Bandit | 17:49 |
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bknudson | wide receiver? fullback? | 17:50 |
tkelsey | tmcpeak: interesting | 17:50 |
hyakuhei | There’s the cross-project design sessions that we should also try to target heavily | 17:50 |
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tkelsey | maybe invite some project guys to come voice their thoughts on bandit gates | 17:50 |
tkelsey | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:50 |
tmcpeak | yeah, sounds good | 17:51 |
bknudson | I think once we get enough projects on bandit there will be enough momentum to get every project on it | 17:51 |
tkelsey | bknudson: hope so :) | 17:51 |
tmcpeak | bknudson: that would be awesome | 17:51 |
bknudson | eventually it'll be required for a tag or badge or whatever they call it | 17:51 |
tkelsey | nice | 17:51 |
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elmiko | this just popped up on the ml, more food for thought about the privilege cloud user thing. #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074126.html | 17:52 |
tkelsey | elmiko: interesting | 17:53 |
tkelsey | good spot | 17:53 |
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hyakuhei | Yeah that is interesting, we actually had that on the mid-cycle etherpad | 17:53 |
elmiko | that spec has been around for awhile now, but looks like its being moved out of nova into openstack-specs | 17:53 |
hyakuhei | The solution tightly couples to Bandit for identiy which is somewhat scary. | 17:53 |
elmiko | hehe | 17:54 |
hyakuhei | Honestly I think the solution we came up with is considerably more elegant | 17:54 |
chair6 | s/Bandit/Barbican/, i hope? :) | 17:54 |
hyakuhei | yeah | 17:54 |
tkelsey | hyakuhei: s/Bandit/Barbican/ | 17:54 |
tkelsey | heh lag | 17:54 |
hyakuhei | That would be _really_ scary | 17:54 |
tmcpeak | tightly couple all the things to Bandit | 17:54 |
hyakuhei | elmiko: Maybe we can work on our alternative option next week | 17:54 |
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redrobot | hyakuhei why scary? | 17:54 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: sounds good | 17:55 |
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hyakuhei | redrobot: because I don’t want identity to pivot back to systems that hang off some other identity provider, it creates wierd cyclic auth paths | 17:55 |
hyakuhei | However, I haven’t read _all_ the words in that spec yet | 17:55 |
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hyakuhei | redrobot: We love Barbican but sometimes people want to do “interesting” things with it | 17:56 |
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redrobot | hyakuhei lol | 17:56 |
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elmiko | also, the spec should probably be focusing on castellan instead of barbican, no? | 17:57 |
hyakuhei | if castellan now does Certificate magics. | 17:57 |
redrobot | elmiko nope, not in this case | 17:57 |
elmiko | ah, ok | 17:57 |
hyakuhei | Which I think someone told me it does? | 17:57 |
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redrobot | hyakuhei nope, no certs in castellan | 17:57 |
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hyakuhei | ok, that’s probably a good thing :) | 17:57 |
redrobot | actually, I take that back, you can store a cert via Castellan | 17:57 |
hyakuhei | heh | 17:57 |
redrobot | but you can't (and porbably never will) provision certs with Castellan | 17:58 |
hyakuhei | OpenStack : The cloud controller brought to you from the minds of “Inception” … wheels within wheels…. | 17:58 |
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tmcpeak | lol | 17:58 |
elmiko | lol | 17:58 |
hyakuhei | Ok, I think that’s time people! | 17:58 |
hyakuhei | Anyone else want to annoy redrobot before I call it? | 17:59 |
redrobot | :) | 17:59 |
hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 17:59:21 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-09-10-17.00.html | 17:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-09-10-17.00.txt | 17:59 |
hyakuhei | Thanks guys! | 17:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-09-10-17.00.log.html | 17:59 |
tmcpeak | thanks hyakuhei! | 17:59 |
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elmiko | thanks hyakuhei | 18:00 |
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amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:07 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 19:07:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:07 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:07 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:07 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:07 |
tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:07 |
sriram | o/ | 19:07 |
amitgandhinz | #topic review last meeting | 19:10 |
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amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-08-27-19.03.html | 19:10 |
amitgandhinz | amitgandhinz to resurrect https://review.openstack.org/143192 | 19:10 |
amitgandhinz | havent had time to work on this | 19:10 |
amitgandhinz | #action amitgandhinz to resurrect https://review.openstack.org/143192 | 19:10 |
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malini | o/ | 19:10 |
amitgandhinz | #topic liberty-3 updates | 19:10 |
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amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/liberty-3 | 19:11 |
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amitgandhinz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/gate-api-tests | 19:11 |
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amitgandhinz | i still need to do this - but i dont think im going to anytime soon | 19:11 |
amitgandhinz | if someone wants to pick this up, feel free to | 19:11 |
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amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/akamai-ssl-driver | 19:12 |
tonytan4ever | I will leave this one in Good progress. | 19:12 |
tonytan4ever | One big PR rolled out, and another is on the way. | 19:12 |
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sriram | tonytan4ever: yeah need to review it. | 19:13 |
sriram | will review after meeting | 19:13 |
tonytan4ever | Yeah | 19:13 |
tonytan4ever | K | 19:13 |
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tonytan4ever | Thanks | 19:13 |
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amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/geo-restrictions | 19:15 |
amitgandhinz | this is merged now | 19:15 |
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tonytan4ever | Yeah | 19:15 |
sriram | woot | 19:15 |
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amitgandhinz | ok any other bp/bug updates to cover? | 19:15 |
sriram | submitted a patch for services getting stuck in pending | 19:16 |
sriram | on maxing out dns retries. | 19:16 |
sriram | please review. | 19:16 |
tonytan4ever | +1ed on that one. | 19:16 |
sriram | ok thanks | 19:16 |
sriram | malini: please review, and suggest tests :) | 19:17 |
malini | I am lost on tht one -will give it another try | 19:17 |
sriram | malini: ok I can explain on #openstack-poppy | 19:17 |
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malini | I mean I know what it does, but thinking of a reasonable test | 19:18 |
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sriram | malini: yeah | 19:18 |
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sriram | anyone else have anything? | 19:20 |
sriram | amitgandhinz: ^^ | 19:20 |
amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:20 |
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amitgandhinz | so we are approved with the openstack talk for tokyo | 19:21 |
amitgandhinz | need to come up with some slides now | 19:21 |
amitgandhinz | maybe next week we can do some brainstorming on it | 19:21 |
sriram | woot woot! | 19:21 |
tonytan4ever | Sounds good to me. | 19:21 |
sriram | sure | 19:21 |
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amitgandhinz | i dont have anything else | 19:23 |
tonytan4ever | I am good | 19:23 |
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sriram | ok o/ | 19:23 |
malini | me neither | 19:23 |
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amitgandhinz | ok thanks everyone | 19:25 |
amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:25 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 19:25:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:25 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-09-10-19.07.html | 19:25 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-09-10-19.07.txt | 19:25 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-09-10-19.07.log.html | 19:25 |
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rm_work | no certs in casellan :( | 19:59 |
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