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Liuqing | #startmeeting evoque | 13:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 25 13:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Liuqing. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'evoque' | 13:00 |
Liuqing | hello | 13:00 |
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zhurong | hi | 13:00 |
Liuqing | today's agenda : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Evoque/Meetings#Agenda_.282015-11-25_1300_UTC.29 | 13:01 |
Liuqing | go through the agenda | 13:01 |
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Liuqing | #topic OpenStack SDK | 13:02 |
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Liuqing | we need to integrate with openstack service so we will use openstack sdk | 13:03 |
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Liuqing | #link https://github.com/openstack/python-openstacksdk | 13:04 |
Liuqing | who has time to research the lib | 13:05 |
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Liuqing | it include nova/glance/neutron/heat/murano client | 13:06 |
Liuqing | but not very hard to use . | 13:06 |
EinstCrazy | what is the purpose? | 13:06 |
Liuqing | such create instance/volume | 13:07 |
yangyapeng | oo | 13:07 |
EinstCrazy | we would use it as evoque client? | 13:08 |
kzaitsev_mb | someone said murano =) I'm not sure about the context of the meeting, but I'm available to help with murano part, if any assistance is required =) | 13:08 |
Liuqing | typical user case , user could apply one instance in the ticket, while someone approve that ticket , the end node will crear instance for it | 13:08 |
Liuqing | kzaitsev_mb, it me lawrancejing in tokyo, beers | 13:09 |
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Liuqing | evoque will use the sdk not client | 13:10 |
zhurong | kzaitsev_mb It is very kind of you | 13:10 |
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Liuqing | #topic Use SpiffWorkflow as the default workflow engine | 13:11 |
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kzaitsev_mb | sorry for hijacking, just wanted to be around if you'll need any assistance — feel free to ping me. =) | 13:12 |
Liuqing | i have complete the default workflow framework, and we can use SpiffWorkflow as the default workflow engine | 13:12 |
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Liuqing | but the patch is in process | 13:12 |
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Liuqing | link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247521/ add SpiffWorkflow to global-requirements | 13:13 |
Liuqing | kzaitsev_mb, it ok, thanks | 13:13 |
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Liuqing | and the patch need reviews | 13:14 |
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Liuqing | and now the dashboard could list the workflows | 13:14 |
Liuqing | how about devstack process,zhurong | 13:15 |
Liuqing | i thought now is right time to enable devstack plugin | 13:16 |
zhurong | It will be in process | 13:16 |
Liuqing | OK | 13:16 |
Liuqing | a little busy this week | 13:16 |
Liuqing | #topic project scope | 13:17 |
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Liuqing | just now i said the typical user case of evoque | 13:17 |
Liuqing | user could apply one instance in the ticket, while someone approve that ticket , the end node will create instance for the user | 13:18 |
EinstCrazy | well, any other cases? | 13:18 |
Liuqing | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Evoque has some simple user case | 13:18 |
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Liuqing | two kinds of user cases: one will communication with other OpenStack service such as nova, cinder, neutron, another won't | 13:20 |
Liuqing | our project will focus the two kinds of user cases | 13:20 |
Liuqing | this is our project scope, i think | 13:21 |
Liuqing | and few minutes later, we can talk about the topic via webex | 13:22 |
Liuqing | any thought for the topic? | 13:22 |
EinstCrazy | the first one is OpenStack service, what is the other? | 13:23 |
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Liuqing | other user case: use has will create ticket such as "my instance is very slow", and such ticket will transition to service team or ops team which will defind in workflow | 13:25 |
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Liuqing | and this kind of ticket won't communicate with OpenStack service | 13:26 |
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EinstCrazy | OK, I got it | 13:26 |
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Liuqing | but i thought we could focus the user case relevant to OpenStack serivce | 13:27 |
EinstCrazy | I agree | 13:28 |
Liuqing | another user case is very easy, just CRUD oprations. | 13:29 |
Liuqing | the workflow is very important part of evoque | 13:29 |
Liuqing | gongysh_: are you here? | 13:31 |
EinstCrazy | Yes, I think we could get it in the webex then (*^__^*) | 13:31 |
Liuqing | OK | 13:31 |
Liuqing | last thing | 13:31 |
Liuqing | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247521/ the patch need code review from you guys | 13:32 |
Liuqing | so we go to the webex :https://demo.webex.com.cn/demo/j.php?MTID=mba8c59b584c857b44c281828340c49ac | 13:32 |
Liuqing | meeting number: 511140309 | 13:32 |
Liuqing | password: 99cloud!@# | 13:32 |
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EinstCrazy | OK | 13:33 |
EinstCrazy | After a minute | 13:34 |
Liuqing | yea | 13:34 |
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EinstCrazy | could we end the meeting here? | 13:35 |
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Liuqing | OK | 13:36 |
Liuqing | #endmeeting | 13:36 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 25 13:36:09 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:36 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/evoque/2015/evoque.2015-11-25-13.00.html | 13:36 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/evoque/2015/evoque.2015-11-25-13.00.txt | 13:36 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/evoque/2015/evoque.2015-11-25-13.00.log.html | 13:36 |
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sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 25 14:02:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
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sgordon | >.< | 14:02 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:02 |
sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
sgordon | #topic roll call | 14:02 |
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cloudon | hi | 14:02 |
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sgordon | hiya | 14:02 |
sgordon | anyone else about? | 14:02 |
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* sgordon gives it 30 secs to a minute | 14:03 | |
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sgordon | ok | 14:04 |
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cloudon | tumbleweed... | 14:04 |
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sgordon | #topic Product WG integration | 14:04 |
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sgordon | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-user-stories/tree/user-stories/draft/complex_instance_placement.rst | 14:04 |
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sgordon | #info merged vIMS user story as "complex instance placement" in product working group drafts folder | 14:05 |
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sgordon | #info next step is to propose moving it to "proposed" folder | 14:05 |
sgordon | #info some discussion in product wg meeting about whether it can be merged under one of the other broader user stories proposed | 14:05 |
sgordon | #action sgordon to look at alignment and determine how to get to "proposed" | 14:05 |
sgordon | so over all that was relatively painless to do | 14:06 |
sgordon | i think the fact that our user stories already have been reviewed by a number of people and align to the same template pretty much helped a lot | 14:06 |
cloudon | I just suggested some text for the opportunities/justification bit - let me know if that's the sort of thing needed | 14:06 |
sgordon | thanks that's very helpful | 14:06 |
sgordon | cloudon, was that in an email or via gerrit? | 14:07 |
cloudon | Via gerrit. Hopefully... | 14:07 |
sgordon | :D | 14:07 |
cloudon | ...may have cocked up the editing thing. | 14:07 |
sgordon | nm i can see it | 14:07 |
cloudon | I can just make comments, not chnage the text yes> | 14:07 |
sgordon | :) | 14:08 |
sgordon | #action sgordon to propose update based on feedback in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247224/2/user-stories/draft/complex_instance_placement.rst | 14:08 |
sgordon | so the next steps... | 14:08 |
cloudon | Meant to ask last week - is the PWG meeting the one at 2100 UTC on Mondays? | 14:08 |
sgordon | #info next steps, need to repeat for security segregation and session border control | 14:09 |
sgordon | ummm that sounds right | 14:09 |
sgordon | let me get the link | 14:09 |
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sgordon | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Product_WG | 14:09 |
sgordon | #info Weekly on Monday at 2100 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt (IRC webclient) | 14:09 |
sgordon | there is currently also a voice line... | 14:09 |
sgordon | there is some active discussion as to whether to switch to irc only meetings or not | 14:10 |
sgordon | (big topic in the last meeting) | 14:10 |
sgordon | but the timing for now will be 2100 UTC either way | 14:10 |
cloudon | ok, will try to make next week's | 14:10 |
sgordon | #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/product-wg | 14:10 |
sgordon | is the m/l | 14:10 |
sgordon | relatively low traffic | 14:10 |
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sgordon | #info Merged openstack/telcowg-usecases: Session Border Controller https://review.openstack.org/176301 | 14:11 |
sgordon | i gave that +A given we had two +2s and part of the product wg workflow will be to seek external reviewers | 14:12 |
cloudon | just checking - merged in TelcoWG not PWG, yes? | 14:12 |
sgordon | correct | 14:13 |
cloudon | ta | 14:13 |
sgordon | so as above the next step will be to try take it and security segregation over there | 14:14 |
cloudon | do you think it needs any text changes first? | 14:14 |
sgordon | possibly, the key piece similar to the vIMS use case will be determining if it aligns with any of the broader product workgroup proposals | 14:15 |
sgordon | and if it more generically applicable than just NFV (probably) | 14:16 |
cloudon | NFV probably one of the likeliest use cases as the data plane is only really stressed by lots of small packets, but some HPC stuff could well be interested in the bits on NUMA, pinning etc. | 14:17 |
sgordon | right | 14:18 |
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sgordon | so im at this stage ok to keep plugging away at moving those oer | 14:20 |
sgordon | *over | 14:20 |
sgordon | i may need feedback as to the justification etc. again | 14:20 |
cloudon | sure | 14:20 |
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sgordon | #topic other discussion | 14:22 |
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sgordon | cloudon, anything else you would like to discuss today? :) | 14:22 |
cloudon | nope, I'm fine :) | 14:23 |
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sgordon | cool | 14:24 |
sgordon | thanks for your timr! | 14:24 |
cloudon | and you - cheers | 14:24 |
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sgordon | #endmeeting | 14:25 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 25 14:25:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:25 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-11-25-14.02.html | 14:25 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-11-25-14.02.txt | 14:25 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-11-25-14.02.log.html | 14:25 |
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Swami | hi | 15:00 |
regXboi | morning' | 15:00 |
obondarev | o/ | 15:00 |
Swami | #startmeeting Neutron_dvr | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 25 15:01:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:01 |
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Swami | #topic announcement | 15:01 |
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Swami | haleyb: will not be here today, he is on vacation | 15:01 |
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Swami | the attendence today is going to be slim | 15:02 |
regXboi | so we keep it short then :) | 15:02 |
Swami | Happy Thanksgiving to all. | 15:02 |
Swami | regXboi: yes let us try to keep it short and effective | 15:02 |
fitoduarte | Hi | 15:02 |
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Swami | fitoduarte: hi | 15:03 |
Swami | #topic Agenda | 15:03 |
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Swami | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-DVR | 15:03 |
Swami | #topic bugs | 15:04 |
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Swami | There was a new bug that was added couple of days back. | 15:04 |
Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1456073 | 15:04 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1456073 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Connection to an instance with floating IP breaks during block migration when using DVR" [Undecided,New] | 15:04 |
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obondarev | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1414559 might be related according to comments | 15:05 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1414559 in neutron "OVS drops RARP packets by QEMU upon live-migration - VM temporarily disconnected" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:05 |
Swami | I was looking at this bug and it seems right now the way DVR dynamically schedules routers is causing issues to the nova live migration. | 15:05 |
obondarev | I have patches in nova and neutron for it | 15:05 |
Swami | obondarev: can you provide a link in here | 15:05 |
regXboi | obondarev: can we link the patches onto the wiki to save clicks? | 15:05 |
regXboi | (that is in addition to putting it here) | 15:06 |
Swami | regXboi: good idea | 15:06 |
obondarev | will do, patches are https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246898/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246910/ | 15:06 |
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obondarev | but I think more work is required to address floating ip issue | 15:06 |
Swami | obondarev: did you see my comment in the bug in launchpad | 15:07 |
obondarev | Swami: I did | 15:07 |
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Swami | obondarev: yes I agree more work is required in terms of nova to neutron communication with respect pre-migration event. | 15:07 |
obondarev | Swami: that's what my patches are about | 15:07 |
obondarev | but it's not that explicit on neutron side that we're at pre migration step | 15:08 |
Swami | obondarev: but I looked at the existing nova patch that you have for state update, this would just address one part of it. | 15:08 |
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obondarev | Swami: right | 15:08 |
Swami | obondarev: are you planning to add more nova patch to address this handshake between nova and neutron | 15:08 |
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obondarev | on neutron sidewe should be sure we're at pre migration step and schedule router to destination host I guess | 15:09 |
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obondarev | Swami: I haven't such plans before I saw this bug about 5 mins ago :) | 15:10 |
obondarev | will think more on it | 15:10 |
Swami | yes on the nova should inform neutron that it is in pre-migration state to a destination host and wait for response from neutron to complete the migration. | 15:10 |
obondarev | is it working fine with legacy routers? | 15:11 |
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Swami | Yes I had discussion about this with armax as well. armax mentioned that he will try to tie in the nova PTL to this bug and we can decide on the right flows between nova and neutron. | 15:11 |
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Swami | obondarev: based on my teams input, they did see that there was a 5sec delay with legacy routers and 8sec delay with dvr routers when doing live migration. | 15:12 |
obondarev | Swami: delay or disconnect? | 15:12 |
obondarev | with dvr | 15:12 |
obondarev | bug says disconnect | 15:12 |
Swami | obondarev: it is delay that they measured. | 15:13 |
Swami | obondarev: yes the bug states about the ssh connection getting disconnected. I have asked our internal team to do some investigation on this. | 15:13 |
obondarev | Swami: not sure I got what is delay here | 15:13 |
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fitoduarte | tcp will make a disconnected t look like a delay. | 15:14 |
obondarev | fitoduarte: ah, ok, thanks | 15:14 |
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obondarev | but bug clearly says disconnect | 15:14 |
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Swami | obondarev: agreed, it might be a disconnect. | 15:15 |
fitoduarte | d | 15:15 |
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Swami | obondarev: but to close I will try to see both the legacy and dvr and will update the bug report. | 15:16 |
obondarev | Swami: sounds good, thanks | 15:16 |
fitoduarte | disconnect would mean you can't reach the vm ever again? | 15:16 |
Swami | The next one in the list is related to live migration. | 15:16 |
Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1508869 | 15:16 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1508869 in neutron "DVR: handle dvr serviceable port's host change" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:16 |
Swami | obondarev: I think you already have a patch for this bug, that you posted above. | 15:17 |
obondarev | fitoduarte: you'll be abe to reconnect but current connection will be lost | 15:17 |
obondarev | for 1508869 fix is on review, there are some concerns on it | 15:17 |
Swami | obondarev: I had one question related to this patch. | 15:17 |
Swami | obondarev: right now you are dealing with all dvr serviceable ports, should we need it. | 15:17 |
obondarev | regXboi: you have concerns as well, can you please clarify in the review? | 15:18 |
Swami | obondarev: I thought we can restrict to the compute ports for live migration. | 15:18 |
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obondarev | Swami: we can't be sure if it's live migration or not | 15:18 |
Swami | obondarev: since we are not going to migrate the dhcp ports. | 15:18 |
obondarev | Swami: I answered in the review, can you please check? | 15:18 |
Swami | obondarev: ok will check it out. | 15:19 |
obondarev | Swami: dhcp ports can also change host | 15:19 |
Swami | obondarev: what would be use case for dhcp port to change host | 15:19 |
obondarev | not suer why we should restrict | 15:19 |
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obondarev | sure* | 15:19 |
obondarev | Swami: during the transition fron active to reserved and back to active DHCP port may change host | 15:20 |
obondarev | depending on dhcp agent that grabbed reserved port | 15:20 |
Swami | obondarev: In this case you are saying "if" we have multiple "Nodes" with dhcp agents running on all nodes. | 15:21 |
obondarev | Swami: I might be missing smth, but what are benefits of restribction to only compute ports? | 15:21 |
obondarev | Swami: correct | 15:21 |
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obondarev | Swami: that's usual case on production clouds | 15:21 |
Swami | obondarev: There is nothing benefit from restricting in the other sense I don't want to burden the control plane by removing the router namespace just for the dhcp ports. | 15:22 |
Swami | obondarev: that's fine, I will address it in your review. | 15:22 |
Swami | Let us move on. | 15:23 |
obondarev | Swami: we're adding this namespace on controllers just because of dhcp ports - why not remove it when there is no dhcp ports? | 15:23 |
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Swami | obondarev: sure agreed | 15:24 |
obondarev | regXboi: please also check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238478/ | 15:24 |
Swami | Let us quickly go over the high priority bugs, since we have already discussed about it. | 15:24 |
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Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1462154 | 15:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1462154 in neutron "With DVR Pings to floating IPs replied with fixed-ips" [High,In progress] - Assigned to ZongKai LI (lzklibj) | 15:25 |
Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246894/ Patch is in review | 15:25 |
Swami | So if you have not reviewed it please review it. | 15:26 |
Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:26 |
stephen-ma | There is also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246855 | 15:26 |
Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505575 | 15:26 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1505575 in neutron "Fatal memory consumption by neutron-server with DVR at scale" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:26 |
stephen-ma | as part of the bugfix for 1462154. | 15:26 |
Swami | stephen-ma: thanks | 15:26 |
obondarev | review is in progress | 15:26 |
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obondarev | there might not be memory issue anymore, but timeout issue is there | 15:27 |
Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234067/ | 15:27 |
Swami | obondarev: seems that it is in merge conflict | 15:27 |
Swami | obondarev: so what removed the memory issue, do know. | 15:27 |
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obondarev | yeah, just wanted to get carl_baldwin answers before uploading new patchset | 15:28 |
Swami | obondarev: thanks, makes sense. | 15:28 |
obondarev | Swami: let me fing the link to the patch.. | 15:28 |
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obondarev | Swami: here it is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214974/ | 15:29 |
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Swami | obondarev: thanks | 15:29 |
Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1513678 | 15:30 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1513678 in neutron "At scale router scheduling takes a long time with DVR routers with multiple compute nodes hosting thousands of VMs" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:30 |
Swami | The patches are up for review for this one. | 15:30 |
Swami | I got some review comments from carl_baldwin yesterday and will address it today based on his reply. | 15:30 |
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Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241843/ | 15:31 |
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Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242286/ | 15:31 |
Swami | The next in the list is | 15:31 |
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Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1515360 | 15:31 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1515360 in neutron "Add more verbose to Tempest Test Errors that causes "SSHTimeout" seen in CVR and DVR" [High,Invalid] | 15:31 |
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Swami | I made some headway on this one by adding some self test within the agent. The patch is under review right now. | 15:32 |
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Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247748/ | 15:32 |
Swami | Please review this patch at your earliest. | 15:33 |
Swami | armax mentioned that he can push in this patch for the debug purpose and latter can be rmoved. | 15:33 |
regXboi | this has a -2 on it | 15:33 |
regXboi | so you need to get that cleared | 15:33 |
Swami | regXboi: that is fine, we can get it cleared once we are ready to merge. | 15:33 |
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Swami | obondarev: I am still seeing some issue in this patch when I try to ping and validate the ping. | 15:34 |
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Swami | obondarev: can you help me figure out what the problem is here. It is throwing a _stderr | 15:34 |
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Swami | carl_baldwin: thanks, drive safe. | 15:35 |
obondarev | Swami: which patch, sorry? | 15:35 |
obondarev | Swami: got distracted, sorry | 15:35 |
Swami | 247748 | 15:35 |
obondarev | Swami: ok, will review 247748 | 15:36 |
obondarev | Swami: shows nothing for https://review.fuel-infra.org/#/c/247748 | 15:36 |
Swami | from the gate logs, I did see that it was able to ping twice successfully but ping did not go through in lot of the tests. I am not sure if it is a timing issue. | 15:36 |
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obondarev | sorry | 15:37 |
Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247748/ | 15:37 |
obondarev | yeah, thanks | 15:37 |
Swami | obondarev: did you get it. | 15:37 |
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Swami | fitoduarte: adolfo is your server patch in. | 15:37 |
obondarev | signed up for it | 15:37 |
Swami | obondarev: thanks | 15:37 |
Swami | ok I don't see him here anymore. | 15:38 |
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obondarev | BTW did someone saw SSh timeout issues in the gates lately? | 15:39 |
Swami | Is there any other bugs that we wanted to discuss here. | 15:39 |
Swami | obondarev: I do see SSHTimeout in the gate. | 15:39 |
regXboi | let's look | 15:39 |
Swami | obondarev: This is from last week, I have captured it in the slide deck. | 15:39 |
obondarev | Swami: link please? | 15:40 |
Swami | #link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4kh-7VVPWlPMkdrQWFFdjNsSnM/view?usp=sharing | 15:40 |
fitoduarte | seam: sorry which server patch? | 15:40 |
Swami | obondarev: as part of the gate failure investigation I am trying to capture all the failures that I see. | 15:40 |
Swami | fitoduarte: DVR HA server patch | 15:40 |
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Swami | since we are in this topic right now let us change the topic. | 15:41 |
Swami | #topic Gate-failures | 15:41 |
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obondarev | Swami: yeah, I just don't see SSH timeout happening often (like before) on dvr multinode job | 15:41 |
fitoduarte | swami: has two cores blessings but assaf is holding it. hopefully he'll be done this week. | 15:42 |
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Swami | obondarev: but i think in most of the failure cases, the issue is we can't get to the VM through SSH | 15:43 |
Swami | obondarev: are you seeing any other failure symptom that is causing this graph to deviate from the cvr. | 15:43 |
obondarev | Swami: I'm not | 15:44 |
Swami | obondarev: in my honest opinion sometimes the logstash results are also confusing. | 15:44 |
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Swami | obondarev: regXboi: Does anyone of you know if the dsvm-functional tests failures results are included in the dvr failure analysis or is it different. | 15:45 |
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obondarev | Swami: which analysis? | 15:45 |
Swami | obondarev: The graphite failure graph does it talk into consideration the dsvm-functional test failure. | 15:46 |
Swami | #link https://goo.gl/L1WODG | 15:46 |
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obondarev | ah, I see | 15:46 |
regXboi | no, that's a different graphite graph | 15:47 |
Swami | regXboi: ok, the reason I asked is recently I did see some instability with the dsvm-functional tests. | 15:47 |
Swami | obondarev: regXboi: If you see any gate failures please log it in the power point that deck, so that it will easy for us to get to the root. | 15:48 |
regXboi | http://goo.gl/WaeP7L | 15:48 |
regXboi | fullstack and functional both appear ill | 15:48 |
Swami | regXboi: also the graph for neutron-full, neutron-dvr is away high when compared to this. I am not sure if the metrics are calculated correctly. | 15:49 |
obondarev | in my patches and in those that I review I didn't see SSH timeout failures on multinode dvr (and any other job) for a while so that's why I have an imression it might be gone for some reason | 15:49 |
Swami | obondarev: yes you are right, I have either not seen in my patches. But the logstash still reports that it is seeing it in the gate. | 15:50 |
Swami | obondarev: This might be from the one or two patches that cause a whole lot of failures in DVR. | 15:50 |
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Swami | obondarev: user error. | 15:50 |
obondarev | Swami: so failures related to patches? | 15:50 |
Swami | obondarev: yes. | 15:51 |
obondarev | doesn't count I guess | 15:51 |
Swami | obondarev: I am not sure about it. | 15:51 |
Swami | ok, let us move on | 15:51 |
obondarev | ok lets proceed collecting statistics | 15:51 |
Swami | obondarev: sure | 15:52 |
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Swami | #topic performance/scalability | 15:52 |
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Swami | obondarev: do you have anything to add here. | 15:53 |
obondarev | not really, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/improve-dvr-l3-agent-binding is in progress | 15:53 |
Swami | obondarev: ok | 15:53 |
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Swami | anything else | 15:54 |
Swami | #topic Open-Discussion | 15:54 |
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Swami | Do we have any other topic to discuss in the last 5 minutes | 15:54 |
Swami | If we don't have any other topics we can end the meeting. | 15:54 |
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Swami | Please log the failures that you are seeing in the gate with respect to the DVR in the powerpoint. | 15:55 |
Swami | Let us discuss it next week. | 15:55 |
Swami | Thanks everyone for joining this meeting. | 15:56 |
Swami | Wish you all again a Happy Thanksgiving. | 15:56 |
Swami | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 25 15:56:16 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2015/neutron_dvr.2015-11-25-15.01.html | 15:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2015/neutron_dvr.2015-11-25-15.01.txt | 15:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2015/neutron_dvr.2015-11-25-15.01.log.html | 15:56 |
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Swami | bye | 15:56 |
obondarev | bye folks | 15:56 |
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rkukura | Hi ML2’ers! | 16:00 |
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Sukhdev | hello | 16:01 |
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scheuran | hi | 16:01 |
trinaths | Hi | 16:01 |
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rkukura | Looks like we’ve got Sukhdev, scheuran, trinaths, yamamoto, and rcurran at least for the ML2 meeting | 16:03 |
rkukura | anyone else? | 16:03 |
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rkukura | should be a quick meeting today, I think | 16:04 |
rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 25 16:04:38 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:04 |
rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:04 |
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rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_November_25.2C_2015 | 16:04 |
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rkukura | similar agenda to the last couple meetings, but whether we cover items depends on who is here | 16:05 |
rkukura | Anything to add? | 16:05 |
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rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:06 |
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rkukura | Only thing I have is that Mitaka-1 is next week | 16:06 |
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rkukura | If noone has comments or anything to add, we’ll move on... | 16:07 |
rkukura | #topic Driver API for SecuriyGroup | 16:07 |
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rkukura | The BP is still under active review | 16:07 |
rkukura | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240356/ | 16:07 |
rkukura | yamamoto: Do you have any update on this? Is it progressing? | 16:08 |
rkukura | Is Yalei here? | 16:08 |
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rkukura | OK, lets followup on the review | 16:10 |
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Sukhdev | I see several comments on the patch but, no conclusions | 16:10 |
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rkukura | Sukhdev: Yes. I need to re-review, and also look at the RFE that was filed. | 16:10 |
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rkukura | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1518087 | 16:11 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1518087 in neutron "[RFE] add the precommit primitive for security groups" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 16:11 |
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rkukura | #topic Driver status coalescing/visibility | 16:12 |
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rkukura | I’m not aware of any progress on this, and don’t see John Joyce, yamahata, or asomya | 16:12 |
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rkukura | #action rkukura to email them and see if they are working on a proposal for Mitaka | 16:13 |
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rkukura | #topic Trunk Ports | 16:14 |
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rkukura | Any update on this? | 16:15 |
rkukura | guess not | 16:15 |
rkukura | #topic Modular L2 agent and macvtap | 16:15 |
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rkukura | scheuran: How is this going? | 16:15 |
sc68cal | o/ | 16:15 |
rkukura | and/or sc68cal | 16:16 |
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scheuran | talked to armando these days and he created a blueprint for it | 16:16 |
scheuran | approved it | 16:16 |
scheuran | and set priority to high | 16:16 |
scheuran | these are really good news | 16:16 |
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rkukura | scheuran: Sounds good! Anything the ML2 subteam can do to help at this point? | 16:17 |
scheuran | I have the first 2 patchsets up | 16:17 |
scheuran | so some feedback would be great | 16:17 |
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Sukhdev | links, please? | 16:17 |
rkukura | scheuran: links? | 16:17 |
scheuran | #link https://review.openstack.org/246318 | 16:17 |
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scheuran | #link https://review.openstack.org/248138 | 16:18 |
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scheuran | currently I'm trying to prototype the sriov agent with this framework | 16:18 |
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scheuran | to see if some extensions to the interface are required | 16:18 |
rkukura | scheuran: great! | 16:19 |
rkukura | anything else on this? | 16:19 |
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scheuran | so the only thing you can do at the moment is give some early feedback if this goes into the right direction | 16:19 |
scheuran | no, nothing else | 16:19 |
rkukura | OK, lets review these | 16:20 |
rkukura | thanks scheuran! | 16:20 |
rkukura | #topic Physical Topology | 16:20 |
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rkukura | I don’t see shivharis | 16:20 |
rkukura | Anyone else have any update on this? | 16:20 |
rkukura | OK… | 16:21 |
rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:21 |
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rkukura | Anything to discuss? | 16:21 |
Sukhdev | nothing from me - | 16:21 |
rkukura | OK | 16:22 |
rkukura | enjoy the holiday for those of us in the US! | 16:22 |
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rkukura | see you next week! | 16:23 |
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rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:23 |
scheuran | have a good time! | 16:23 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 25 16:23:08 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:23 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-11-25-16.04.html | 16:23 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-11-25-16.04.txt | 16:23 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-11-25-16.04.log.html | 16:23 |
rkukura | bye | 16:23 |
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mvandijk_ | ./ | 17:59 |
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j^2 | :D | 18:00 |
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peterstac | #startmeeting trove | 18:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 25 18:01:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is peterstac. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:01 |
atomic77 | \-o-/ | 18:01 |
vkmc | o/ | 18:01 |
pmalik | ./ | 18:01 |
johnma | hello | 18:02 |
peterstac | Hi all | 18:02 |
schang | o/ | 18:02 |
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vgnbkr | o/ | 18:02 |
pmackinn | atomic77, that a tie fighter? | 18:02 |
imandhan | ./ | 18:02 |
atomic77 | pmackinn, i thought of it as a guy doing squats | 18:02 |
mvandijk_ | (-o-) | 18:03 |
mvandijk_ | |-o-| | 18:03 |
atomic77 | trying to keep fit | 18:03 |
peterstac | There's nothing on the agenda, so we'll move right to ... | 18:03 |
peterstac | #topic Open Discussion | 18:03 |
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pmackinn | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-trove-midcycle-rsvp as usual | 18:03 |
ashleighfarnham | o/ | 18:04 |
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peterstac | Do we have an agenda yet for midcycle? | 18:05 |
peterstac | cp16net? | 18:06 |
peterstac | (jk) | 18:06 |
ashleighfarnham | Just wanted to remind people that if they want to give input on the new cli with the integration with openstack client. | 18:06 |
peterstac | So once travel plans are finalized, please update the etherpad | 18:06 |
atomic77 | could we perhaps take some of the extra time this meeting gives us to look at some of the outstanding blueprints in the queue? | 18:06 |
peterstac | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-trove-midcycle-rsvp | 18:07 |
ashleighfarnham | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/OpenstackClient | 18:07 |
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vkmc | that's a good idea atomic77 | 18:07 |
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vkmc | https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/mitaka-1 | 18:09 |
amrith | ./ | 18:09 |
atomic77 | so atm we have about 10 specs in review that have been udpated in the last two weeks | 18:09 |
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vkmc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/trove-specs,n,z | 18:10 |
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amrith | Some of them (four) are rather old. | 18:11 |
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amrith | sorry, 6 | 18:12 |
amrith | two of them are updated with the question "is it time to abandon this yet". | 18:12 |
atomic77 | amrith, a great example of where metrics can mislead :) | 18:12 |
peterstac | unfortunately, asking that question throws them back on top of the list ... | 18:12 |
amrith | which tees up the conversation of a bug/spec/bp/review scrub | 18:13 |
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atomic77 | so 8 "live" specs . imo we should prioritize specs over bugs especially at the early stage of a cycle | 18:14 |
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pmalik | I think we should just abandon them with a nice message. They can restore them any time if they wish. | 18:15 |
atomic77 | pmalik, this is a whole can of worms we opened last week :) | 18:15 |
pmackinn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164881/ should be put aside imho | 18:16 |
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tellesnobrega | hi, i was looking at trove db migration files and found that all of them still contains the downgrade method, its been a while since there was a cross-project spec to remove downgrades, is there a reason we are keeping this? or we just forgot about it? | 18:17 |
amrith | pmackinn, would you update the review with that comment. it makes it much easier at a later date to see the rationale. | 18:17 |
pmalik | Owner of these review are likely going to ignore the message anyways - otherwise they would be responding. I am just saying that instead of asking a nice question we should abandon them with a nice message that they can restore the review any time. | 18:17 |
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pmalik | Asking like this just moves all those reviews to the top of the list pushing important stuff down... | 18:18 |
amrith | tellesnobrega, would you please share a link to the downgrade spec you refer to? | 18:18 |
tellesnobrega | pmackinn, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152337/5 | 18:18 |
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tellesnobrega | sorry amrith https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152337/5 | 18:18 |
amrith | has anyone implemented this? | 18:19 |
tellesnobrega | yes, i believe keystone has, not sure about nova | 18:19 |
tellesnobrega | i think sahara has done it as well | 18:19 |
tellesnobrega | i can confirm that, but i think we should move this here | 18:20 |
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tellesnobrega | i can start that (actually have) | 18:20 |
peterstac | tellesnobrega, are you volunteering to do the work? ;) | 18:20 |
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tellesnobrega | peterstac, yes, i already started it | 18:20 |
SlickNik | o/ sorry I'm late — previous meeting ran wayy over. | 18:20 |
amrith | considering that we just went through a lot of trouble to get downgrade to work, I'd like to get some confirmation that people using Trove don't want the capability. | 18:20 |
amrith | the spec by the TC is nice and all but if people use the capability, and right now it still works, why throw it away? | 18:21 |
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SlickNik | nooo — I'm still reading scrollback for context. | 18:21 |
atomic77 | sorry to interject again on the specs -- but is it safe to assume most of the specs we'll deliver in mitaka have already been put on our queue? | 18:21 |
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imandhan | I'm working on another one, will add it today | 18:22 |
amrith | I think the deadline for specs is mitaka-1, no? | 18:22 |
tellesnobrega | amrith, makes sense. Downgrade can be a big source of problems, it is a easy way to break your db and that is why this spec was put in motion | 18:22 |
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SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mitaka_Release_Schedule | 18:23 |
atomic77 | ok, so in that case does it make sense to prioritize getting those that are on the queue approved so that development can begin? | 18:23 |
peterstac | amrith, I believe cp16net just said he'd like them all in by m-1 | 18:23 |
atomic77 | we're already nearly in december and the holiday season will slow things down | 18:23 |
peterstac | I don't think that's a hard rule | 18:23 |
atomic77 | we'll blink and we'll be at the midcycle vowing "never again"... again :) | 18:23 |
amrith | we also talked about delaying our release from the rest of the projects (at summit). | 18:23 |
amrith | I'd like to first figure out when our release dates are going to be. | 18:23 |
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johnma | I missed that part about delaying our release date. wonder why but dont want to hold up the meeting agenda for that | 18:24 |
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SlickNik | I think we were still planning to release as part of the all-up Mitaka final release. | 18:27 |
tellesnobrega | what is the decision on the downgrade? go or no go? I can send an email on the mailing list as well to see if anyone responds that downgrades are really necessary | 18:27 |
peterstac | tellesnobrega, why don't you submit a Trove bp/spec? | 18:27 |
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SlickNik | The idea was to figure out if we could do something more along the lines of Swift / Ironic, where they have their own release train for intermediate releases (like mitaka-1,etc) , but still release as part of the major OpenStack releases. | 18:28 |
peterstac | you can reference the TC spec - then you'd hopefully get some valid feedback | 18:28 |
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SlickNik | But I'm not sure how far we got along that avenue. | 18:28 |
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amrith | we took a note (the penultimate one) in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-mitaka-contributors-meetiup | 18:29 |
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tellesnobrega | peterstac, sure, i will do that | 18:31 |
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SlickNik | Yup noted — we'd probably want to look into freezing (cut branch) early, but I think we'd still want to release (announcement / wiki-page) all up with the rest of the OpenStack releases. | 18:31 |
amrith | SlickNik, maybe we should table that and discuss formally at the next meeting (and decide). | 18:32 |
amrith | ? | 18:32 |
SlickNik | amrith: ++ | 18:32 |
SlickNik | Fighting the gate during the release crunch is always fun! /s | 18:33 |
amrith | and since we are all about taking the joy out of software development, we will deny people that fun by changing our freeze date. Good. | 18:33 |
amrith | #action next week's agenda to discuss early (or late) branch cut | 18:34 |
peterstac | #action Add meeting agenda item for next week wrt trove early freeze | 18:34 |
SlickNik | Should probably talk to dhellmann or someone else on the release team to figure out the possibility of doing such a thing. | 18:34 |
amrith | #action tellesnobrega to write BP on trove and eliminating downgrade. | 18:34 |
amrith | #action pmackinn to remind people about mid-cycle reservations and confirmations | 18:35 |
amrith | what else? | 18:35 |
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amrith | atomic77, pmalik was there a concrete action item on specs, old specs, bug/spec/review scrub | 18:35 |
atomic77 | amrith, what i had hoped to propose was to set a goal for getting that queue down to or close to zero | 18:36 |
peterstac | #chair amrith SlickNik | 18:36 |
openstack | Current chairs: SlickNik amrith peterstac | 18:36 |
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amrith | #unchair amrith | 18:37 |
openstack | Current chairs: SlickNik peterstac | 18:37 |
* amrith currently lying down and in pain. no chair for me for a while | 18:37 | |
SlickNik | Wow peterstac I didn't know you could do that. | 18:37 |
amrith | peterstac can do some amazing things. some of them are legal in most states. | 18:37 |
peterstac | ;D | 18:38 |
amrith | SlickNik, ... what say re: atomic77's suggestion? | 18:38 |
SlickNik | #action SlickNik to go through reviews / specs and scrub old reviews. | 18:38 |
atomic77 | perhaps i'm unnecessarily raising the alarm on that, i don't know if this is a normal review velocity in a release cycle for openstack | 18:38 |
amrith | SlickNik, happy to help. | 18:39 |
SlickNik | #undo | 18:39 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x95d3b90> | 18:39 |
peterstac | If we want to have all mitaka specs approved by m-1, then we've only got another week | 18:39 |
SlickNik | #action SlickNik amrith to go through reviews / specs and scrub old reviews. | 18:39 |
atomic77 | just seems logical to me that we priortize getting specs reviewed and approved asap, that's all | 18:39 |
SlickNik | thanks amrith :) | 18:39 |
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amrith | atomic77, I am concerned about the review velocity as well. | 18:40 |
amrith | SlickNik, happy to help. | 18:40 |
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peterstac | #action Finalize spec approval for Mitaka (next meeting) | 18:41 |
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amrith | anything else? | 18:42 |
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peterstac | Going once ... | 18:42 |
peterstac | Twice ... | 18:42 |
* atomic77 inhales | 18:43 | |
SlickNik | not from me. | 18:43 |
atomic77 | j/k :) | 18:43 |
peterstac | Thanks everyone! | 18:43 |
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peterstac | #endmeeting | 18:43 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:43 | |
tellesnobrega | thanks | 18:43 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 25 18:43:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:43 |
amrith | bye | 18:43 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-11-25-18.01.html | 18:43 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-11-25-18.01.txt | 18:43 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-11-25-18.01.log.html | 18:43 |
SlickNik | Thanks peterstac | 18:43 |
peterstac | SlickNik, np! | 18:43 |
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