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| sc68cal | #startmeting networking_fwaas | 00:00 |
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| xgerman | punctuality you know... | 00:00 |
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| bharathm | o/ | 00:00 |
| hoangcx | Hi | 00:00 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: type in startmeeting | 00:01 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting networking_fwaas | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 00:01:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 00:01 |
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| xgerman | ok, for next week it seems RAX won’t be serving their famous bacon breakfast | 00:01 |
| Aish | o/ | 00:02 |
| xgerman | so you gotta grab that before we meet there | 00:02 |
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| mickeys | Hi everyone. Sorry I am a couple of minutes late. | 00:02 |
| sc68cal | #topic API spec | 00:02 |
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| xgerman | I think we are done. Lot’s of +2/+1 | 00:03 |
| SridarK | So i think we are good | 00:03 |
| sc68cal | I think the spec is in a good place. Hopefully armax, dougwig or someone else on the neutron-drivers team can approve | 00:03 |
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| xgerman | dougwig? | 00:03 |
| sc68cal | I've taken the spec and have started putting together the RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP for the new API - so far so good | 00:03 |
| xgerman | link? | 00:04 |
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| sc68cal | it's not up for review yet, started about an hour ago | 00:04 |
| xgerman | oh, ok | 00:04 |
| xgerman | you know the saying what’s not in git doesn’t exist | 00:04 |
| xgerman | :-) | 00:04 |
| sc68cal | it's in my git, just not pushed up yet | 00:05 |
| xgerman | k | 00:05 |
| SridarK | Aish: if u do push another version pls add in the links for the stats related blueprints and u can state that more details will be covered there | 00:05 |
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| sc68cal | Once the spec merges into neutron-specs, I also have a commit that pulls it into doc/ in our repo, so we can maintain it into the future, and I'll also push a new patch into neutron-specs once we publish it, to redirect people to the RST file for the API once we publish it | 00:05 |
| xgerman | nice | 00:05 |
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| Aish | Do we need another patch? SridarK | 00:06 |
| xgerman | I would rather not with all the +2s/+1s | 00:06 |
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| SridarK | Aish: only if u are going to - to address dougwig's question | 00:06 |
| sc68cal | I think we can update it once we've got the RST over in neutron-fwaas repo | 00:06 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:06 |
| Aish | +1 | 00:06 |
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| SridarK | Yes only if we had to push another patch, no need to push one just for this | 00:07 |
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| Aish | SridarK ok. | 00:07 |
| xgerman | unrelated to the spec we need to decide how we version and transition users | 00:10 |
| xgerman | to the new API | 00:10 |
| sc68cal | xgerman: good point. | 00:10 |
| SridarK | xgerman: good point, some discussion along the lines of sc68cal: 's email ? | 00:10 |
| sc68cal | #topic API versioning and transition | 00:10 |
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| xgerman | #link https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg72002.html | 00:11 |
| SridarK | if we can do something to this effect that will be good | 00:11 |
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| xgerman | doing a hard break (aka a new extension) made it so that Horizon, heat, stopped working so I am in favor of a compatibility layer | 00:12 |
| SridarK | xgerman: yes that was ur concern | 00:13 |
| xgerman | but like SridarK if that’s too much work/not enough time I am ok with skipping that | 00:13 |
| sc68cal | My thinking is - leave v1 API as it is today. We don't touch it, but we start work on the v2 API | 00:14 |
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| sc68cal | if we finish work on the v2 API, then maybe we work on a translation layer after | 00:14 |
| xgerman | so you can run v1 and v2 in the same install? | 00:14 |
| SridarK | perhaps we can try to nail some of this down along with other cores next week ? | 00:14 |
| sc68cal | xgerman: most likely people will be running v1 for a while | 00:14 |
| sc68cal | we have to make something that works for v2 first, and that could take some time | 00:15 |
| xgerman | yep, agreed. So are we allowing v1 and v2 to run on the same system | 00:15 |
| sc68cal | there is no v2 to run at this point | 00:15 |
| xgerman | I know I am juts planning ahead | 00:15 |
| sc68cal | if we got that compat layer - that would make it possible to do v1 and v2 - but let's defer that until we actually have something | 00:16 |
| xgerman | because for in parallel we need two different DBs | 00:16 |
| xgerman | or schemas | 00:16 |
| SridarK | hmm some thought is needed on the data models to have both run both together | 00:16 |
| SridarK | yes exactly xgerman | 00:16 |
| xgerman | yep, or we decide that’s not an option :-) | 00:16 |
| jwarendt_ | We should have unique DB schemes and assume both can be run together IHOM. | 00:17 |
| sc68cal | Basically I don't think we can just directly modify any of the code we currently have in the neutron-fwaas repo | 00:17 |
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| jwarendt_ | Agreed. But there is no reason we cannot write V2 to use unique, non-conflicting data. | 00:17 |
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| sc68cal | jwarendt_: agreed. | 00:18 |
| xgerman | so we use a different schema/tables than v1 | 00:18 |
| jwarendt_ | +1 | 00:18 |
| SridarK | yes that seems to be a good option | 00:18 |
| SridarK | we can think in terms of deprecation of v1 at some later point | 00:19 |
| SridarK | xgerman: does that seem to align with ur lbaas experience ? | 00:19 |
| sc68cal | Data migration from v1 to v2 should be possible - we'll just have to do it as its own task. It's big enough | 00:20 |
| sc68cal | v2 feels just like a superset of v1 | 00:20 |
| jwarendt_ | Agree. | 00:20 |
| xgerman | SridarK we didn’t do a compatibility layer since we felt nobody was using v1 | 00:20 |
| SridarK | ok | 00:20 |
| mickeys | I think more people are using lbaas v1 than fwaas v1 | 00:20 |
| sc68cal | true, but there are API clients already in the wild | 00:20 |
| sc68cal | my thinking is - build the new boat, then move all the deck chairs over to the new one | 00:21 |
| xgerman | mickeys exactly and we didn’t assess that right and got burned a bit | 00:21 |
| mickeys | I know internally we are still fighting the lbaas v1 versus lbaas v2 battle, coupled with the heat support issues | 00:21 |
| xgerman | sc68cal +1 we make it so both boats can run on the same system and people can move them at their own leisure... | 00:22 |
| sc68cal | agree | 00:22 |
| jwarendt_ | Even if both don't run at same time, avoiding the overlap is useful - ex: db migration scripts. | 00:22 |
| SridarK | jwarendt_: +1 | 00:22 |
| sc68cal | On the microversion front, I talked with kevinbenton a bit and the trouble is we'd have a dependency on work being done in neutron to support microversioning | 00:22 |
| sc68cal | so, sadly we have to implement the full v2 API - I was hoping we'd be able to do it in stages and expose microversions to the user | 00:23 |
| sc68cal | as actual functionality landed | 00:23 |
| sc68cal | but for now looks like it'll have to be where we expose the full api, and in some cases we'll have gaps where it doesn't do anything or returns a Not Implemented error | 00:23 |
| xgerman | well, if we are keeping v1 we can mark v2 experimental and do just that | 00:24 |
| sc68cal | just like v1 was experimental? ;) | 00:24 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: sigh i was hoping that this was a discussion we can have since Kevin wil be there at the midcycle | 00:24 |
| xgerman | well, I think we are making good progress here | 00:24 |
| xgerman | but the whole micro versioning is a can of worms to begin with | 00:25 |
| xgerman | aka since we release as part of neutron any API change mandates a new Neutron microversion | 00:25 |
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| sc68cal | yeah. It would have been really helpful for fwaas v2, but it would be a lot of work | 00:26 |
| SridarK | yes, esp if there are dependent pieces which are also WIP | 00:27 |
| xgerman | well, with all the Api changes going on I can almost guarantee each release of Neutron has a new microversion | 00:27 |
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| sc68cal | anything else on this topic? | 00:28 |
| xgerman | no, I think we decided on what we want and how is a technical detail :-) | 00:29 |
| sc68cal | #chair SridarK xgerman | 00:29 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK sc68cal xgerman | 00:29 |
| sc68cal | xgerman: SridarK: if you guys have other topics feel free | 00:29 |
| xgerman | besides Happy New Year everybody | 00:29 |
| xgerman | nothing from my side | 00:29 |
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| SridarK | i think we are good on this, we can thrash out the implementation details | 00:30 |
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| xgerman | well, should we finish early? | 00:32 |
| xgerman | give sc68cal time to code :-) | 00:33 |
| SridarK | :-) | 00:33 |
| sc68cal | :) | 00:33 |
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| SridarK | I hope for a productive 4 days next week | 00:34 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:34 |
| mickeys | +1 | 00:34 |
| sc68cal | ok then - see you all next week :) | 00:36 |
| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 00:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 00:36:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-01-07-00.01.html | 00:36 |
| xgerman | o/ | 00:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-01-07-00.01.txt | 00:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-01-07-00.01.log.html | 00:36 |
| SridarK | yes sounds good see u all and a Happy New Year | 00:36 |
| SridarK | bye | 00:36 |
| hoangcx | Bye | 00:36 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 15:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
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| dustins | \o | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov1 | hi | 15:00 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:00 |
| mkoderer | hello | 15:00 |
| markstur | hi | 15:00 |
| xyang | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | merry orthodox christmas | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hello! | 15:00 |
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| alyson_ | hi! | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | I just want to remind everyone about deadlines coming up | 15:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | Mitaka-2 is in 2 week (Jan 21) | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | as we agreed at the beginning of the release, we won't be accepting any "major features" that don't have WIP patches submitted by that date | 15:02 |
| bswartz | the goal of that deadline is to make sure that we have enough time to review the big stuff going into mitaka | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | and also the we should try to get as many features complete and merged by the milestone so it's interested from a testing pespective | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #topic broken gate | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | so the gate has been broken most of this week, due to changes in nova, neutron, and devstack (did I miss anything?) | 15:04 |
| bswartz | thankfully it seems vponomaryov's latest patch has fixed it | 15:04 |
| bswartz | but this week's events just highlights how vulnerable we are to changes in other projects affecting our CI | 15:05 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: tempest? ;) | 15:05 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: tempest was implicated but I think it was actually devstack's change to tempest options that sunk us | 15:06 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: yeah that's correct | 15:06 |
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| gouthamr | the more tests we add, the more chances of the job being killed due to timeout.. generic driver. | 15:06 |
| bswartz | in any case I want to remind people that we're trying to get new first party drivers done so we can use those for testing instead of the current generic driver with all of its dependencies | 15:07 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: I don't think number of test is an issue (or at least it shouldn't be) | 15:07 |
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| gouthamr | it shouldn't be bswartz.. but there are nova timeouts on the gate that kill the entire job. | 15:08 |
| mkoderer | what can we do to prevent such issues..? running manila test within other project won't be accepted I guess | 15:08 |
| bswartz | please prioritize reviews of the the LVM and LXC/LXD drivers so we can get those merged and then share to move our gate tests to those drivers | 15:08 |
| cknight | bswartz: I've been testing the LVM driver as part of reviewing it. It seems to work, but there are a few failing tests and many review comments. So with Julia out until next week, it seems it will be a couple weeks before it can merge. And it is solely a DHSS=False driver. | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | cknight: jvarlamova will be back next week and if she's quick the driver could get merged by Tuesday | 15:09 |
| cknight | bswartz: Let's hope so. | 15:09 |
| bswartz | realistically it will take a bit longer but I want everyone to be aware of the benefits of getting the new drivers in | 15:09 |
| bswartz | the point of the new drivers is that they don't depend as much on external things so there's less chance of churn in other projects breaking our gate | 15:10 |
| cknight | bswartz: And they should be vastly faster, so the number of tests shouldn't be an issue. | 15:10 |
| bswartz | yeah that too | 15:10 |
| cknight | bswartz: I think we promised the infra team we would lower our timeouts once the new drivers were ready. | 15:10 |
| bswartz | I was worried that we would need to discuss extraordinary measures in the meeting today to get CI unbroken so I'm glad we can avoid that least | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov1 | cknight: 65 minutes as it was | 15:11 |
| bswartz | but the risk still exists that new bugs in break us in the coming weeks | 15:11 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov1: 3rd party drivers are able to run the tests in under 10 minutes (plus devstack time) | 15:12 |
| tbarron | sorry to be catching up, but are both LVM and LXC/LXD drivers DHSS=False ? | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov1 | only 3rd party? | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | we should aim to get the first party drivers that fast | 15:12 |
| cknight | tbarron: No, LXC is DHSS=True | 15:12 |
| tbarron | cknight: cool, ty | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov1 | LXC tend to be both | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | okay that's all I had about the gate issues | 15:13 |
| bswartz | thanks again to vponomaryov1 for fixing it (even though he's on holiday!) | 15:13 |
| cknight | +1 Thanks, Valeriy! | 15:14 |
| bswartz | #topic Midcycle meetup | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Midcycle meetup (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:14 | |
| vponomaryov1 | )) | 15:14 |
| bswartz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/ManilaMitakaSprint | 15:14 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-mitaka-midcycle | 15:14 |
| bswartz | so the etherpad was empty until this morning | 15:14 |
| bswartz | and I'm filling it out today | 15:14 |
| bswartz | the facilities stuff here at NetApp is all sorted out for people attending in person | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | if you are attending in person please make sure I know you are so we can put you on the visitor list | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | we've gotten netapp to waive the usual NDA paperwork the visitors have to sign | 15:16 |
| xyang | bswartz: does the wifi work? I mean can you access IRC, etc | 15:17 |
| bswartz | I'll be adding a lot more topics to the agenda over the next week | 15:17 |
| bswartz | xyang: lol | 15:17 |
| cknight | xyang: yes | 15:17 |
| bswartz | IBM will never live down the austin midcycle will they? | 15:17 |
| tbarron | xyang: the guest network always worked in the past, don't jinx it! | 15:17 |
| tbarron | :-) | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | netapp has open wifi for guests -- some ports are blocked but you can get onto the internet easily and IRC should not be an issue | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | VPNs should work around any port blockage | 15:18 |
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| * mkoderer is trying to organzie the next mid-cycle in Germany btw | 15:19 | |
| bswartz | honestly I've never understood the logic of blocking outgoing ports in a firewall | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | mkoderer: also try getting lufthansa to sponsor :P | 15:19 |
| bswartz | yes mkoderer is already thinking ahead to the summer (newton?) midcycle meetup | 15:20 |
| mkoderer | gouthamr: :) | 15:20 |
| toabctl | gouthamr: lufthansa usually doesn't fly. they tend to strike when you want to use them ;) | 15:20 |
| mkoderer | yep maybe we can have a quick chat about it during this mid-cycle | 15:20 |
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| gouthamr | :D | 15:20 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: do you have an etherpad where people can register their interest in traveling there? | 15:21 |
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| mkoderer | bswartz: I can setup one... sure | 15:21 |
| bswartz | I suggest an etherpad or some other way to collect feedback about how many people want to travel and can get funding to travel | 15:21 |
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| mkoderer | yep, I need to know whos intressted and who has issues with travel founding | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | the cinder team is also considering a european site for their summer midcycle meetup | 15:22 |
| bswartz | dublin was proposed | 15:22 |
| mkoderer | cool :) | 15:22 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: where exactly are you proposing? | 15:22 |
| bswartz | do you know which city? | 15:22 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: SAP has many locations... Headquater would be Walldorf near Heidelberg | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | I would recommend some place near a large airport hub because that would cut travel costs for everyone | 15:23 |
| mkoderer | this would be best for me to organize everything | 15:23 |
| toabctl | mkoderer: walldorf isn't a real city. I guess there's just SAP ;) | 15:24 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: yep Frankfurt would be best.. I will find out what is possible | 15:24 |
| bswartz | okay thanks mkoderer | 15:24 |
| mkoderer | toabctl: :P | 15:24 |
| bswartz | anyways, regarding the meetup next week, please suggest topics if you have them | 15:24 |
| bswartz | I'll be adding mine | 15:24 |
| bswartz | and we can always add stuff as we go | 15:25 |
| bswartz | for remote participants the plan is to setup webex again and to have good quality audio (don't know about video) | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | if I can get a windows box I may try to setup video | 15:26 |
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| bswartz | (unfortunately webex + fedora linux = fail) | 15:26 |
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| bswartz | also, in case it's not obvious, we will cancel the weekly IRC meeting next week, as it would occur during the meetup | 15:27 |
| bswartz | so the next IRC meeting will be the day of the mitaka-2 milestone release | 15:27 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | that's all I had for today | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | welcome back from the holidays and for those still on holidays please stop working and enjoy them! | 15:28 |
| dustins | good to be back | 15:29 |
| vponomaryov1 | bswartz: when it is planned to have agenda for topics of meetup? | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | oh and speaking of gate being fixed, we've gotten quite a backlog of changes that need review/merge | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | core reviewers please try to clear out at much review backlog as we can while the gate is functioning (goal being to merge everything ready to merge before M-2) | 15:30 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov1: you're referring to a schedule of what we will discuss at what times? | 15:30 |
| xyang | bswartz: is there a deadline to merge manila client changes? | 15:30 |
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| vponomaryov1 | bswartz: what at what time | 15:31 |
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| tpsilva | I have a question about share extend and shrink | 15:31 |
| bswartz | xyang: yes, as we learned during liberty, the client and other library projects are subject to the same feature freeze timelinesas manila proper | 15:31 |
| xyang | ok | 15:31 |
| bswartz | so we won't be able to get away with sneaking in UI or client features during M-4 | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov1: I'm afraid the exact schedule will be somewhat flexible because new topics always get proposed at the last minute | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | but I'll do my best to have to mostly laid out by Monday | 15:32 |
| bswartz | so remote attendees can plan their attendance times | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov1 | bswartz: ok, thank you | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | tpsilva: go ahead with your question | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | ? | 15:35 |
| tpsilva | bswartz: when you extend a share and it fails on the driver, the api doesn't give you any errors... | 15:35 |
| bswartz | well the extend operation (like most) is asynchronous | 15:36 |
| bswartz | so the extend request should succeed unless the request itself was malformed | 15:36 |
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| bswartz | if the extend operation fails, that should be communicated to the user with a status change | 15:36 |
| bswartz | oh requests can also immediately fail for administrative reasons (quota exceeded, etc) | 15:37 |
| tpsilva | I see | 15:37 |
| ganso | I was wondering if the scheduler could verify if there is space available for extending | 15:37 |
| ganso | the scheduler has this information | 15:38 |
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| vponomaryov1 | ganso: scheduler is not a member of extend operation | 15:38 |
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| cknight | ganso: also, the scheduler may be running somewhere else, so that would still be asynchronous | 15:38 |
| ganso | cknight, vponomaryov1: I understand, thanks! :) | 15:39 |
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| bswartz | tpsilva: is that clear? | 15:39 |
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| tpsilva | yes, thank you | 15:40 |
| bswartz | okay I think we're done for today | 15:40 |
| bswartz | thanks all | 15:40 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 15:40:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-01-07-15.00.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-01-07-15.00.txt | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-01-07-15.00.log.html | 15:40 |
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| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
| elmiko | hi | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 17:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
| tmcpeak | #chair hyakuhei | 17:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hyakuhei tmcpeak | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | whaddup! | 17:00 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | yo yo | 17:00 |
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| elmiko | heyo/ | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | Happy 2016 security peoples! | 17:00 |
| sicarie | o/ | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-20160107-agenda | 17:00 |
| elmiko | \o/ likewise =) | 17:00 |
| bknudson_ | hi | 17:01 |
| shelleea007 | o/ | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | allright, full house | 17:01 |
| ccneill | o/ howdy, all | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | hey, I wonder if we'll have many people along? | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | First meeting of 2016, also the last meeting before the mid-cycle! | 17:02 |
| michaelxin | hi | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | mhayden: Are you around at all? | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | woot | 17:02 |
| mdong | o/ | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | #topic MidCycle | 17:02 |
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| wayward710 | hi | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | Lots of people here, how exciting! | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-mitaka-midcycle | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | It would be very useful if people could update the list of interested folks | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | To say if they're coming | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | or if not | 17:03 |
| elmiko | yea, i crossed my name off =( | 17:03 |
| michaelxin | happy new yer | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | oh no elmiko :( | 17:04 |
| michaelxin | appreciate if people can update the page with their availability. | 17:04 |
| michaelxin | what ! | 17:04 |
| michaelxin | elmiko: You are not coming :-( | 17:04 |
| dg__ | can you post the link again, i missed it | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Outrageous - I'll be sending redhat an angry letter | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-mitaka-midcycle | 17:04 |
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| elmiko | sadly, no | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-mitaka-midcycle | 17:04 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: haha, thanks ;) | 17:04 |
| tkelsey | elmiko: thats a shame :( | 17:05 |
| dg__ | ty | 17:05 |
| michaelxin | this is unacceptable. | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | Completely. | 17:05 |
| elmiko | lol, i'm gonna forward this irc log to me bosses | 17:05 |
| ccneill | we demand elmiko! | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | So all might not be lost, dg__ is going to try to participate remotely | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | and we were even talking about trying to lead a session remotely | 17:06 |
| dg__ | Im going to give it a try, be really good if we can do it remotely | 17:06 |
| elmiko | interesting... | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | which is exciting | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Any suggestions on how we can best achieve this would be appreciated. | 17:06 |
| tkelsey | dg__: +1 | 17:06 |
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| tmcpeak | Twitch | 17:07 |
| elmiko | hahaha! | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | stream people doing work and open up for commentary ;) | 17:07 |
| elmiko | yes, definitely yes | 17:07 |
| ccneill | michaelxin: do our cameras work with Skype, I wonder? | 17:07 |
| tkelsey | lol | 17:07 |
| michaelxin | I do no think that room has VC | 17:07 |
| greg_a | ccneill we can do a public link can't we? | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | "wow, it certainly appears that Rob's whiteboarding skills have skyrocketed since last time" | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | hehe | 17:08 |
| ccneill | yeah we can do a hangout or something, it's just more whether they'll be able to hear us | 17:08 |
| ccneill | laptop mics are notoriously bad for whiteboarding sessions | 17:08 |
| michaelxin | If possible, we need the list of names of companies for folks | 17:08 |
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| greg_a | I though those rooms do have VC? They're the same ones g_swift used right? | 17:08 |
| michaelxin | so that we can pre-register you all to save check in time. | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | Should we just throw them on the Eetherpad ? | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | welcome nkinder ! | 17:08 |
| * nkinder sneaks in late :) | 17:09 | |
| michaelxin | greg_a: no | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | michaelxin: should we just throw on etherpad? | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: elmiko can't come to the mid-cycle..... sort it out kthnxbye! | 17:09 |
| michaelxin | tmcpeak: That will be great. | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | sweet | 17:09 |
| elmiko | if only nkinder were my boss ;) | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | dammit Rob, didn't you take the training? it's "Hewlett Packard Enterprise" | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | well he's someones boss damnit! | 17:10 |
| elmiko | lol, too true | 17:10 |
| nkinder | Ade is going from my team at least | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: So long as we don't call it HP Enterprise we're ok | 17:10 |
| michaelxin | We need a more accurate number. | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | whoops | 17:10 |
| wayward710 | I saw that video about "Hewlett Packard Enterprise." It was well-done. | 17:10 |
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| tmcpeak | :D | 17:10 |
| ccneill | ok I'm gonna make a "confirmed" section to make this easier to read | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | It's going to be very interesting overlapping with Barbican | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | ccneill: ++ | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:11 |
| michaelxin | gee, we have 26 | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | So the topic list is looking a little devoid of content | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder - you can't make it either? | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | michaelxin: at least half won't show up | 17:11 |
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| tmcpeak | although in this case we might do better, lot of Rackers :) | 17:12 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: nope. :( Have another trip coming up, and it's too much to do back to back | 17:12 |
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| michaelxin | ccneill: Thanks. | 17:12 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: That's a shame, it would have been good to have you but I understand what you're saying, first few months of the year always seem to be travel heavy. | 17:13 |
| michaelxin | nkinder: we will miss you for sure. | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | So tkelsey, tmcpeak does one of you want to lead the bandit sprint/work? I filled in some fluff around it | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | I'm happy to do it | 17:13 |
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| tkelsey | hyamauchi: tmcpeak or I will :) | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | we've got three people interested in working on the security guide but sicarie can't make it which makes me wonder what we should do about that section | 17:14 |
| tkelsey | I want to talk about comfig stuff etc | 17:14 |
| elmiko | ooph.. | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | well tmcpeak or tkelsey can you add some meat around the bandit section on the agenda please? | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | michaelxin: ditto for Syntribos | 17:14 |
| tkelsey | yup | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:14 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: got it. | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | Cheers | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | yeah maybe we should punt the sec guide without any of the cores making it | 17:14 |
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| hyakuhei | I'll do the same for Outreach | 17:14 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: depending on how much work we want to do on the sec guide, we could try to organize a virtual sprint for next week? | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | dg__: something for killick on there? | 17:15 |
| redrobot | o/ | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | heh I didn't see you had outreach | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | I'll paste the bit I had in evangelism there | 17:15 |
| * redrobot is running late today | 17:15 | |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: sicarie - that could work. On last review it was a little short on things like policy configurations, in fact that's _horribly_ documented everywhere for everything | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Tried working out what afew things meant yesterday, burned a whole day dragging through code. | 17:16 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: we could use a nice guide on policy in general, +1 | 17:16 |
| sicarie | yep | 17:16 |
| dg__ | hyakuhei yeah I figured you could cover killick | 17:16 |
| ccneill | dave-mccowan, sigmavirus24, KarthikB: wasn't sure if y'all were confirmed or not; copy yourself to the "confirmed" list on the etherpad when you get a chance if you are | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | That'd be an interesting thing to tackle, maybe a sprint on policy chapter/section | 17:16 |
| michaelxin | we can continue updating these agenda | 17:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | ccneill: I'm definitely going to be there. | 17:16 |
| ccneill | shweet | 17:16 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: right, if there are enough folks who want to work on it, we could definitely participate remotely on the content with respect to reviews and laying out the chapter/section | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | Everyone happy to follow a similar unconference style to the last few? I think it helps keeps things flexible and stops pigeon holing | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, I like the way it's been going | 17:17 |
| michaelxin | unconference is fine. | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | ok good, makes it easy to changs things if it's going wrong too I guess :P | 17:18 |
| michaelxin | What should we do with Baribican | 17:18 |
| michaelxin | ? | 17:18 |
| redrobot | unconference? like propose topics first day, schedule them out for the rest of the day? | 17:18 |
| redrobot | michaelxin hyakuhei I'm here to talk about that :) | 17:18 |
| KarthikB | I'm coming, I'll update the etherpad | 17:18 |
| michaelxin | Should we plan some sessions with Barbican team together? | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | redrobot: yeah, we'll have topics on the etherpad | 17:18 |
| michaelxin | redrobot: +1 | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | looks like we have pretty good turnout | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | and we normally split up into two-three groups and work on a topic each for half the day | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | what's the food situation? | 17:19 |
| redrobot | I like that idea... maybe I'll try that with the Barbican folks for our side of the midcycle | 17:19 |
| michaelxin | tmcpeak: what do you want? | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | michaelxin: are you guys ordering? | 17:19 |
| michaelxin | tmcpeak: Yes | 17:19 |
| redrobot | this is our etherpad btw | 17:19 |
| redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-mitaka-midcycle | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | michaelxin: awesome! thank you | 17:19 |
| michaelxin | Here is our plan. | 17:20 |
| michaelxin | We will order breakfast, lunch for every day. | 17:20 |
| michaelxin | We will have dinner and happy hour on Tuesday night. | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | michaelxin: HEROS! | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | sweet! our RAX overlords are good | 17:20 |
| elmiko | hehe | 17:20 |
| ccneill | remember, we're in breakfast taco country too ;) | 17:20 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: How about HP sponsoring one night? | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | I'll try to get some funmoney too, either to throw in on Tuesday or do something another night | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | ^ | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | Should be fine | 17:21 |
| dg__ | sweet! Can you guys set up a hangout for happyhour too? | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | ccneill: awwwyeahhh | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | Haha yes | 17:21 |
| michaelxin | dg__: we will send you pictures. | 17:21 |
| elmiko | breakfast taco... /mind-blown | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | dg__: :P | 17:21 |
| dg__ | :D | 17:21 |
| ccneill | elmiko: see what you're missing out on?! | 17:21 |
| michaelxin | you guys need to check in first. | 17:21 |
| ccneill | :D | 17:22 |
| elmiko | ccneill: inorite | 17:22 |
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| michaelxin | We will have rackers in the front to greet you and lead you to the room. | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:22 |
| michaelxin | elmiko: you still have time. :-) | 17:22 |
| michaelxin | elmiko: talk with you boss again. :-) | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | Sounds like a dealbreaker to me... | 17:22 |
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| elmiko | michaelxin: i told him about the threats of angry letters ;) | 17:23 |
| redrobot | btw, if anyone is coming early to spend Monday with Barbican, please sign up on our Eventbrite so we can plan for food accordingly. | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | It would be nice to make sure we integrate with the Barbican lot | 17:23 |
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| hyakuhei | redrobot: tkelsey and I will be there early | 17:23 |
| tkelsey | redrobot: yuo | 17:23 |
| tkelsey | redrobot: *yup | 17:23 |
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| redrobot | tkelsey hyakuhei https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-barbican-mitaka-midcycle-tickets-19784674494 | 17:24 |
| tkelsey | ty | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | redrobot: I'll be there first thing Tuesday as well | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | So I hope to drop into a number of barbican sessions | 17:24 |
| ccneill | would probably be good if we could get a few barbican reps when discussing bandit gate jobs too | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | I've got some Bandit stuff to chat about also at some point\ | 17:25 |
| redrobot | hyakuhei ok... I'm liking this unconference idea more and more... that way we can have a schedule for people who are hopping between the two | 17:25 |
| tkelsey | ccneill: +1 | 17:25 |
| ccneill | lessons learned, sticking points, tips for easing adoption, whatever | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah, we normally just throw it all into etherpad | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | So in the morning we take 5-15 minutes to talk about the day before and what group will work on what | 17:25 |
| michaelxin | redrobot: Thanks. | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | That all goes on the etherpad, rinse-repeat after lunch | 17:25 |
| tkelsey | ccneill: I have put some words in the pad about Bandit, please chip in with your input :) | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | It'd be really great to get some Barbican people dropping in | 17:26 |
| redrobot | we usually do etherpad as well, but we just go down the list... I think actually assigning time slots would work well for crosspollination | 17:26 |
| ccneill | tkelsey: sure thing | 17:26 |
| rm_work | LBaaS is at the same time, I don't know if we'll need security crossover but we'll also be doing barbican crossover some :P | 17:26 |
| redrobot | I'll try to stick around for Thursday & Friday with you guys. | 17:26 |
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| hyakuhei | likewise if anyone is staying for the extra days (Thursday/Friday) let us know on the etherpad | 17:27 |
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| hyakuhei | rm_work: Excellent! | 17:27 |
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| rm_work | (LBaaS midcycle is Tuesday-Friday) | 17:27 |
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| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: tkelsey Maybe, as there are LBaaS and Barbican people around, a workshop session on writing Bandit tests would be useful | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | Gotcha's, clever stuff, debugging, filters etc | 17:28 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: can do | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | sure, that sounds like a great idea | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | As a separate thing to the development sessions | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | it's a lot easier to just see it face-to-face than try to figure it out from docs | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | So it gets scheduled separately | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah totally | 17:28 |
| michaelxin | good iea | 17:29 |
| michaelxin | idea | 17:29 |
| ccneill | tmcpeak: and we can use that new knowledge to write better docs :) | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, docs are one thing I'd really like to get better. We've got feedback that it's tough to learn how to use in some cases | 17:29 |
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| michaelxin | ccneill: +1 | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | Excellent. | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | I was hoping mhayden would be around so we could add some content around the ansible-security topic | 17:30 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah, I'd love to spend a session or two playing with that stuff | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | it looks like he is coming | 17:30 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah, I think he works in the castle | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | Also, is it really a castle. I hope so | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | I was thinking the same thing | 17:31 |
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| elmiko | +1 | 17:32 |
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| tmcpeak | if there is a place where you might actually get a castle it's Texas | 17:32 |
| redrobot | hyakuhei used to be a mall :-O | 17:32 |
| ccneill | haha well, we need some ramparts and a moat | 17:32 |
| ccneill | but it's at least as big as a castle | 17:32 |
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| bknudson_ | https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rackspace+Hosting/@29.5083528,-98.3939156,3a,75y,43.2h,90.98t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sZeaJCgozmlHTIpjXs0IBBA!2e0!3e2!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DZeaJCgozmlHTIpjXs0IBBA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D129%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D70.909088%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!1m2!2m1!1srackspace+san+antonio!3m1!1s0x865cf358fc55c7c3:0xdfd632e8e5ff24a2 | 17:33 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: Major is coming. | 17:33 |
| michaelxin | I already contacted him | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | excellent | 17:33 |
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| tmcpeak | looks kind of castl-y | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | pfft. Americans think they know what castles look like | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | *cough* disneyland | 17:34 |
| dg__ | hah ^this | 17:34 |
| bknudson_ | the closest things we have to castles are shopping malls | 17:34 |
| browne | we do. they look like White Castle | 17:34 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: lol | 17:34 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:34 |
| michaelxin | please check the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-mitaka-midcycle. We will add some useful information like direction, contact number, etc. | 17:34 |
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| wayward710 | Yeah, I guess McMansions aren't exactly castles. :) | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV2PbKpsMRk <- where the history comes from. (For after the meeting, obvs) | 17:35 |
| ccneill | problem is, castles usually don't have escalators | 17:35 |
| ccneill | Americans are too fat to climb castle walls | 17:35 |
| ccneill | (myself included) | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | ouch. | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | lool | 17:35 |
| wayward710 | guilty | 17:35 |
| mhayden | hyakuhei: sorry, just got back from a mtg | 17:35 |
| elmiko | ccneill: haha | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | the Texas BBQ isn't going to help with the fat either | 17:36 |
| tkelsey | mmmmm BBQ :D | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | hey mhayden - so we were just discussing the midcycle | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | I'm going to have to arrange a wheelbarrow to the airport | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | I notice that the ansible security work is down as a topic | 17:36 |
| mhayden | hyakuhei: woot, yes | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | Could you add one-two sentances to the topic? So people know what they're signing up for please? | 17:37 |
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| mhayden | hyakuhei: absolutely -- could you link me where i need to add the verbiage? | 17:38 |
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| michaelxin | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-mitaka-midcycle | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-mitaka-midcycle | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | tsk, michaelxin you're too fast man | 17:38 |
| michaelxin | The power of the castle | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | So my big bossman says we'll pay for a night out / beerage / something | 17:38 |
| mhayden | i think michaelxin is overclocked :) | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | hah | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: awesome! | 17:39 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:39 |
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| michaelxin | great | 17:39 |
| ccneill | this is gonna be a barn burner, y'all! ;) | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: mind if I discuss some new Bandit stuff? | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | 'course | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Bandit | 17:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bandit (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:40 | |
| tmcpeak | ok so I did some work before Christmas to figure out the best way to get projects to use bandit-baseline as part of a voting gate | 17:40 |
| mhayden | should we be planning to make a few slides on our topic? or just discussion + dive into the code? | 17:40 |
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| tmcpeak | initially I was thinking we'd just have it as a template job projects could use, but the problem is that requires all the overhead of spinning up an entire new machine in CI | 17:40 |
| * mhayden is a general midcycle noob ;) | 17:40 | |
| michaelxin | mhayden: slides help | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | the infra folks and I came up with a solution that we'd have a new target | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | 'python-jobs-linters' | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | that does the exact same as 'python-jobs' except it calls 'linters' tox target instead of 'pep8' | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | and then you can add Bandit and whatever other linters you might have in the linters section | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | so basically bandit-baseline will now be run as part of your regular python-jobs voting check | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | we've already done this for Bandit itself and I threw up some directions | 17:42 |
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| tmcpeak | this should make it really easy for new projects to adopt Bandit gates | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | mhayden: yeah a couple of informal slides if it's the first time something has been covered at a midcycle or is generally new/shiny. | 17:42 |
| browne | so would multiple linters appear as that single job? | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | browne: yes | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | that was a concern of mine as well, but in the end it's fairly easy to find which is which in the log | 17:42 |
| mhayden | michaelxin / hyakuhei: got it | 17:42 |
| browne | so now when 1 fails you need to dig in order to figure out which one? | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | also we advise making a separate target so you can still run tox -e codesec | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | and tox -e pep8 | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | browne: yeah, but you have to dig in to find out why anyway | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | if my pep8 fails I have to dig through the log to see why anyway, right? | 17:43 |
| browne | i guess before it was at least clear which linter failed. i liked the separation | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | browne: I would have preferred it that way too, but to spin up a separate machine in infra just to run Bandit checks seems excessive and they assured me there weren't many better ways | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | s/many/any | 17:44 |
| bknudson_ | was there a reason infra wanted that? does it use less hardware? | 17:44 |
| browne | tmcpeak: ok | 17:44 |
| bknudson_ | I also liked the separation. | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: Containers? | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson_: yeah, it uses less hardware. They have to spin up a separate machine for each new job. There is no way to run jobs serially on the same hardware, they're all designed to run in parallel | 17:45 |
| bknudson_ | I thought it reused already-booted machines. | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | My NY resolution is to containerize all the things. | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson_: hmm, that's not what they told me | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: yeah, containers would be much better | 17:45 |
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| tmcpeak | no reason why you couldn't drop the current code and Bandit in a container | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | I don't think infra is set up that way though ;) | 17:46 |
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| bknudson_ | one of the nice things about bandit vs pep8 is that it doesn't require installing all the service's test-requirements. | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | pfft, there must be a way to sideload docker without them noticing. | 17:46 |
| * hyakuhei should stop "helping" | 17:46 | |
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| browne | tmcpeak: how does the voting vs. non-voting linters work now? i assume they are always voting | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson_: agreed, we've been using Bandit this way for a couple of weeks now though and in practice you don't notice it. It's just run as part of normal 'python-jobs' | 17:47 |
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| tmcpeak | browne: yeah, always voting. The idea is that you set a profile or filters that you're willing to abide by and then you're using a differential run so not getting old issues dragged up | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | I'm definitely open to other ways of doing this though | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | in the end I couldn't justify having to spin up a whole new instance just for a separate output report from Bandit though | 17:48 |
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| tmcpeak | also other projects don't have to do it this way, they're still free to set up whatever they want, it's just what I got going to lead the way | 17:49 |
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| browne | to me if its a hardward issue, then rearrange how hardware is scheduled. rather than change the usability to the end user. but i can understand | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | browne: yeah, that sounds reasonable to me too. Maybe we can chew this over at the midcycle more, your and bknudson_'s concerns occurred to me as well | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | it's kind of the compromise I struck with infra | 17:50 |
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| bknudson_ | it's best to keep infra happy | 17:50 |
| ccneill | question: would it be worth it to folks to have a separate machine | 17:50 |
| ccneill | if they were running BOTH bandit and syntribos? | 17:50 |
| ccneill | i.e. a "security" job? | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | then we have bundled reports for Syntribos and Bandit ;) | 17:51 |
| elmiko | that's an interesting thought | 17:51 |
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| ccneill | at least then you're getting your money's worth for the machine | 17:52 |
| ccneill | and you could do the same thing tmcpeak was talking about with tox I assume | 17:52 |
| ccneill | interchangeable logs/finding format wouldn't be such a bad thing either :) | 17:53 |
| tmcpeak | fwiw projects that really want a separate tox target for bandit baseline can do it, and I'm sure infra will approve. I just don't think the wanted me making a template to do it | 17:53 |
| ccneill | ah | 17:53 |
| tmcpeak | ccneill: true | 17:53 |
| tmcpeak | that's all I had for Bandit, we can probably discuss more at midcycle | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | excellent | 17:54 |
| hyakuhei | Anything else people? | 17:54 |
| hyakuhei | ok then thanks everyone! | 17:54 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 17:54:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-01-07-17.00.html | 17:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-01-07-17.00.txt | 17:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-01-07-17.00.log.html | 17:54 |
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| ccneill | o/ see ya next week! | 17:55 |
| tmcpeak | see you all | 17:55 |
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| tkelsey | laters! | 17:55 |
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| elmiko | thanks hyakuhei | 17:55 |
| bknudson_ | see you next week | 17:55 |
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| sriram | #startmeeting poppy | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 19:01:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sriram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: poppy)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy' | 19:01 |
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| sriram | Hey All | 19:01 |
| tonytan4ever | \o | 19:01 |
| sriram | Welcome back after the holidays! ;) | 19:02 |
| sriram | hope it was eventful. | 19:02 |
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| sriram | Wow the last meeting was on 10th December lol | 19:02 |
| sriram | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-12-10-19.09.html | 19:02 |
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| sriram | #topic Rollcall | 19:03 |
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| sriram | o/ | 19:03 |
| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:03 |
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| sriram | hey there mkmad! :) | 19:03 |
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| mkmad | Hi sriram! | 19:04 |
| sriram | #Recap | 19:04 |
| sriram | So last we were primarily focusing on analytics. | 19:05 |
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| sriram | anything anyone else wants to recap on? | 19:05 |
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| sriram | else we can move on to blueprints. | 19:05 |
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| sriram | tonytan4ever, mkmad: ^ | 19:06 |
| tonytan4ever | +1 | 19:06 |
| tonytan4ever | My update: | 19:06 |
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| tonytan4ever | Working on akamai-retry list related endpoints | 19:06 |
| mkmad | Yes, I was working on getting the akamai data to cloud metrics using the API endpoint. | 19:06 |
| sriram | cool, lets discuss about them under blueprints | 19:07 |
| tonytan4ever | We can move to blueprints. | 19:07 |
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| sriram | #topic blueprints | 19:07 |
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| sriram | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/analytics | 19:07 |
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| sriram | so mkmad has been hard at work with this :) | 19:07 |
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| sriram | while I have been lounging about on vacation lol :P | 19:07 |
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| mkmad | Haha! | 19:08 |
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| mkmad | I think we have defined the API. | 19:08 |
| mkmad | under work items. | 19:08 |
| sriram | mkmad: feel free to edit this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/analytics | 19:08 |
| sriram | to add in anything else under work items | 19:09 |
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| mkmad | Sure thing ill do that. | 19:09 |
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| sriram | maybe we need multiple assigness there, or to split out the blueprints. | 19:09 |
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| mkmad | I am working on a patch for "Implement Rabbit Workers to submit metrics to Metrics Store". | 19:11 |
| sriram | #note cleanup analytics blueprint to make it more granular in its approach | 19:11 |
| mkmad | But that should be in its own repo. | 19:11 |
| sriram | #info cleanup analytics blueprint to make it more granular in its approach | 19:11 |
| mkmad | Its not under poppy codebase. | 19:11 |
| sriram | mkmad: cool | 19:11 |
| sriram | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/akamai-ssl-driver | 19:12 |
| sriram | tonytan4ever: ^ | 19:12 |
| sriram | I think that is pretty much done right? | 19:12 |
| sriram | malini: o/ :) | 19:12 |
| malini | o/ | 19:12 |
| tonytan4ever | Yes, I still suggest it leaving it in good progress though | 19:13 |
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| sriram | tonytan4ever: cool | 19:13 |
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| sriram | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/devstack | 19:13 |
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| sriram | it does not have a milestone attached to it | 19:14 |
| sriram | so moving on. | 19:14 |
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| sriram | before I touch any of the other blueprints, is the mimic stuff being actively worked on? | 19:15 |
| sriram | malini: ^ | 19:15 |
| malini | nope | 19:15 |
| sriram | eg: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/mimic-rackspace-dns | 19:15 |
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| malini | I would say lets put this on hold, since we'll have a designate driver at some point | 19:16 |
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| sriram | cool, yeah makes sense | 19:17 |
| sriram | moving on then. | 19:17 |
| sriram | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/security-testing | 19:17 |
| sriram | is michaelxin here? | 19:17 |
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| sriram | do you have any progress updates on that? | 19:17 |
| michaelxin | sriram: yes | 19:17 |
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| michaelxin | sriram: I thought Henry already finished this task. | 19:18 |
| michaelxin | I will double check with Henry | 19:18 |
| malini | we have some new endpoints etc. that needs tests | 19:18 |
| sriram | michaelxin: ack | 19:18 |
| michaelxin | malini: I will follow up with you offline | 19:19 |
| malini | ok | 19:19 |
| michaelxin | to see what types of tests we need. | 19:19 |
| sriram | woohoo | 19:19 |
| michaelxin | And how should we progress. | 19:19 |
| sriram | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/custom-ssl | 19:19 |
| sriram | tonytan4ever: ping | 19:20 |
| tonytan4ever | Yes | 19:20 |
| tonytan4ever | let's put this on hold | 19:20 |
| sriram | roger that | 19:20 |
| tonytan4ever | As I'm focusing on san automation part | 19:20 |
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| tonytan4ever | and we really don't have that big of business needs for custom ssl right now. | 19:21 |
| sriram | ok yeah that makes sense. | 19:21 |
| sriram | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/horizon | 19:21 |
| sriram | now, thats assigned to me. | 19:21 |
| sriram | but I have not started digging into details for that yet. | 19:21 |
| sriram | i'll mark that as on hold as well. | 19:21 |
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| sriram | if not for anything else, I'm moving onto bugs. | 19:22 |
| tonytan4ever | cool. | 19:22 |
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| sriram | tonytan4ever, malini: ^ | 19:22 |
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| sriram | #topic bugs | 19:23 |
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| malini | squash them | 19:23 |
| sriram | malini, tonytan4ever: any new bugs we recently encountered? | 19:23 |
| sriram | I dont see any changes in the reported bugs. | 19:23 |
| malini | no - but we shud prioritize the keyword arg one | 19:23 |
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| sriram | malini: +1 to that | 19:23 |
| tonytan4ever | Not really. A few like country code missing I don't think it's big enough to make it to Openstack Bug report | 19:24 |
| tonytan4ever | And it already has been fixed. | 19:24 |
| sriram | malini: I switched the bug priority to be high for the kwargs bug referenced here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1523964 | 19:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1523964 in Poppy "Change function mapping to be kwargs instead of args" [High,New] | 19:24 |
| sriram | tonytan4ever: true, but lets report in the future, just for the sake of documentation. | 19:25 |
| tonytan4ever | Okay | 19:25 |
| sriram | alright all the other bugs I see, have been previously talked about. | 19:25 |
| sriram | anyone else with something new on those lines? | 19:26 |
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| sriram | malini, tonytan4ever, mkmad: ^ | 19:26 |
| malini | none from me | 19:26 |
| mkmad | None from me too. | 19:26 |
| sriram | ok moving on | 19:27 |
| sriram | #topic open discussion | 19:27 |
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| sriram | alright, what did you guys have for lunch? jk | 19:27 |
| mkmad | I didnt have lunch yet, lol. | 19:28 |
| malini | I am almost there | 19:28 |
| sriram | go have lunch mkmad!! :) | 19:28 |
| sriram | #info mkmad needs to have lunch | 19:28 |
| tonytan4ever | That's a good discussion, lol | 19:28 |
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| mkmad | Haha! I will :) | 19:28 |
| sriram | alright, if thats it. | 19:28 |
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| sriram | thats all folks | 19:28 |
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| sriram | till next time. | 19:29 |
| sriram | #endmeeting poppy | 19:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 19:29:13 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:29 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy/2016/poppy.2016-01-07-19.01.html | 19:29 |
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| mkmad | Bye :) | 19:29 |
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