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bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 28 15:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
mkoderer | o/ | 15:00 |
Yogi1 | Hi | 15:00 |
vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
tpsilva | hello | 15:00 |
ganso | hello | 15:00 |
aovchinnikov | hi | 15:00 |
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markstur_ | hi | 15:01 |
bswartz | xyang markstur_: courtesy ping | 15:01 |
bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:01 |
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bswartz | so a few of us are sitting in the cinder midcycle today | 15:02 |
bswartz | so there might be minor distractions | 15:02 |
bswartz | but let's get going | 15:02 |
bswartz | #topic Hierarchical port binding support | 15:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Hierarchical port binding support (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
bswartz | mkoderer: you're up | 15:03 |
mkoderer | ok so that's mine | 15:03 |
mkoderer | we are thinking about Hierarchical Port Binding for manila | 15:03 |
mkoderer | for those of you that never heard about it: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/kilo/ml2-hierarchical-port-binding.html | 15:03 |
bswartz | I've taken a look at this (briefly) and it seems like a great idea | 15:03 |
mkoderer | so it's a technique to fix the VLAN 4096 limitation with an hierachical architecture | 15:04 |
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bswartz | this solves a problem that we (the manila team) has been struggling with for 3 years | 15:04 |
mkoderer | we are collection idease here currently: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-hierarchical-port-binding | 15:04 |
mkoderer | I will have a meeting with some network experts tomorrow to get much more details | 15:05 |
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* mkoderer is not a network expert | 15:05 | |
bswartz | I wasn't aware that neutron had already done the hard work here -- I always assume we would have to solve this problem in manila | 15:05 |
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mkoderer | the idea is that we find a implementation that is manila driver independent | 15:05 |
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bswartz | so I know a lot about networking, but very little about neutron in particular | 15:05 |
bswartz | mkoderer: is it possible that a solution could be created without even modifying manila? | 15:06 |
kaisers1 | <-- lurks in quickly | 15:06 |
bswartz | or do we need to make some changes? | 15:06 |
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mkoderer | bswartz: mh I mean it's always possible to assign a port manually | 15:07 |
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mkoderer | but I think get it triggered and managed with manila would be the most convenient way | 15:08 |
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bswartz | well NetApp has a driver that works with vlan but not vxlan | 15:08 |
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bswartz | so we tell customers they have to use vlan only with neutron if they use the share-server version of our driver | 15:08 |
mkoderer | do we have other drivers that only support vlans? | 15:08 |
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bswartz | if we can demonstrate a config that makes that unnecessary that would be a huge win | 15:09 |
bswartz | and if there are gaps, then those are the things we should address with the above BP | 15:09 |
bswartz | mkoderer: I think one of the EMC drivers may | 15:09 |
vponomaryov | mkoderer: EMC and Huawei probably... | 15:09 |
mkoderer | ok good.. I need to have a look to this drivers too | 15:09 |
bswartz | mkoderer: you can grep the drivers to find out for sure, or ask on the ML | 15:10 |
mkoderer | bswartz: sure | 15:10 |
mkoderer | so plan is that we open up a lp bp in the next days | 15:10 |
bswartz | so I think it's too late to do this in Mitaka, unless it turns out to be pretty small | 15:10 |
bswartz | however it could land early in Newton | 15:11 |
bswartz | IMO that's what we should aim for | 15:11 |
mkoderer | bswartz: yeah.. we need to get it ASAP :) so N-1 would be good | 15:11 |
bswartz | okay | 15:11 |
mkoderer | one open issue is QA | 15:11 |
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mkoderer | since testing it needs a network fabric that supports HPB | 15:12 |
bswartz | mkoderer: are you volunteering to do the needed proof of concept and dev work yourself or do you need help? | 15:12 |
bswartz | oh that's a good point | 15:12 |
bswartz | I can ask around at NetApp since they stand to gain a lot from this BP | 15:12 |
bswartz | if I shake the right trees some money or hardware might fall out | 15:13 |
mkoderer | bswartz: yeah so I will be the assignee | 15:13 |
mkoderer | bswartz: that's what I wanted to hear :) | 15:13 |
bswartz | that could take several weeks though | 15:13 |
mkoderer | since we won't build a 3rd vendor test facility | 15:14 |
vponomaryov | very high trees? )) | 15:14 |
bswartz | okay anything else before we move on? | 15:14 |
mkoderer | bswartz: yeah let's discuss this when we have someting more in detail :) | 15:14 |
mkoderer | nope | 15:14 |
bswartz | #topic Core reviewer team and other manila-related projects | 15:14 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Core reviewer team and other manila-related projects (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:14 | |
bswartz | so just a reminder that we currently operate 4 repos: | 15:15 |
bswartz | manila, manila-ui, python-manilaclient, and manila-image-elements | 15:15 |
bswartz | all of them except manila-ui have the same core reviewer team | 15:15 |
bswartz | manila-ui has our core reviewer team plus horizon's | 15:15 |
bswartz | we need core reviewers to make sure they're looking at all of those repos, otherwise patches will get stuck | 15:16 |
bswartz | if that turns out to be too much work, we could look at expanding the core reviewer teams for some of the smaller projects | 15:16 |
bswartz | manila-image-elements in particular is a different type of project | 15:17 |
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bswartz | is there any interest in expanding the core reviewer teams for the subprojects independently of the main manila project | 15:17 |
bswartz | ? | 15:17 |
bswartz | ..... | 15:18 |
mkoderer | bswartz: which one does have the most pending reviews? | 15:18 |
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markstur_ | Those reviews are usually pretty small. More an issue of testing and QA. | 15:19 |
bswartz | mkoderer: the most work is still in the main manila project | 15:19 |
markstur_ | We can use more +1s always. | 15:19 |
mkoderer | I will add those project to my gerrit query :) | 15:19 |
bswartz | however manila-image-elements has been needing the most attention | 15:19 |
mkoderer | even though I have no idea about manila-image-elements | 15:19 |
markstur_ | If we have someone focus on something like image then it would be fine to expand | 15:20 |
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bswartz | okay maybe the problem is just not enough awareness | 15:20 |
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bswartz | we should also check that stackalytics has the right associations so people are credited for their reviews there | 15:20 |
markstur_ | (I wasn't watching image elements at all until bswartz brought it up earlier) | 15:20 |
xyang1 | I tend to search in manila and forget about other subprojects. it is an issue of awareness as well | 15:21 |
bswartz | okay let's see if things get better now that we've reminded everyone | 15:21 |
* gouthamr_ expands watched projects | 15:21 | |
markstur_ | Otherwise we could just expand core for all of them together | 15:21 |
bswartz | if it's still a problem we can revisit the concept of expaning the core reivewer teams later | 15:21 |
bswartz | moving on.... | 15:21 |
bswartz | #topic Replication status | 15:22 |
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bswartz | so the replication code has been in review for a long time now | 15:22 |
bswartz | I hope nobody has any objections they haven't raised yet because I'm hoping to see it merge very soon | 15:23 |
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bswartz | my own remaining objection is around the first party driver support and it looks like that will be solved shortly as we finally have a promising solution using ZFS | 15:23 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: will have some results when I do some POC generic driver support | 15:23 |
bswartz | we are going to start running up against deadlines starting in 2 weeks | 15:23 |
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bswartz | once we have a POC posted, I will want to start workflowing the core code immediately | 15:25 |
bswartz | so this is just a reminder: do your reviews of the replication code now if you haven't already | 15:25 |
bswartz | I expect to see merge conflicts, and there are other important new features too | 15:26 |
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bswartz | I really hope we manage M-3 better than L-3 went, so my approach will be to start sooner | 15:27 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: is there netapp driver support for replication? | 15:27 |
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bswartz | gouthamr: is it somehow not in gerrit??? | 15:27 |
gouthamr_ | vponomaryov: it's being developed downstream, will be up for review soon | 15:28 |
ameade | +1 | 15:28 |
bswartz | WTF? | 15:28 |
bswartz | how it that not upstream? | 15:28 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr_: good to know | 15:28 |
bswartz | push it up today please | 15:28 |
gouthamr_ | bswartz: will do. | 15:29 |
bswartz | thx | 15:29 |
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bswartz | the netapp support has been working since tokyo | 15:29 |
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bswartz | although there have been changes since then obviously | 15:30 |
bswartz | okay that's all I had to say on that topic | 15:30 |
bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:30 |
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bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:30 |
ganso | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245126/ | 15:30 |
ganso | that should be ready for reviews | 15:30 |
ganso | it is not passing jenkins because jenkins broke today | 15:31 |
ganso | but I added a "depends-on" | 15:31 |
ganso | so it should work now... it is in zuul's queue | 15:31 |
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bswartz | ganso: thanks | 15:31 |
bswartz | that's also urgent to get merged | 15:32 |
* bswartz puts a gold star on 245126 | 15:32 | |
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ganso | I advise all driver maintainers to rebase on top of that patch and implement update_access() in their drivers | 15:32 |
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bswartz | mkoderer: do you have a specific city for the summer midcycle proposal yet? | 15:33 |
ganso | do not wait until it merges | 15:33 |
bswartz | ganso: +1 | 15:33 |
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bswartz | mkoderer: ? | 15:35 |
bswartz | I think we need to start asking about travel soon if that's going to happen | 15:35 |
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bswartz | I really like the idea of being more friendly to our european team members | 15:36 |
ganso | I also, it is important to note that the fallback approach in that patch MUST be removed later in Mitaka... we should not have drivers holding it back | 15:36 |
bswartz | okay I think we lost mkoderer | 15:36 |
bswartz | I think we're done for today | 15:37 |
bswartz | thanks all | 15:37 |
vponomaryov | thanks | 15:37 |
bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 28 15:37:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:37 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-01-28-15.00.html | 15:37 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-01-28-15.00.txt | 15:37 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-01-28-15.00.log.html | 15:37 |
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xarses | #startmeeting fuel | 16:00 |
xarses | #chair xarses | 16:00 |
xarses | Todays Agenda: | 16:00 |
xarses | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:00 |
xarses | Who's here? | 16:00 |
maximov | hi | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 28 16:00:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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mwhahaha | hi | 16:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: xarses | 16:00 |
salmon_ | hi | 16:00 |
ashtokolov | hi | 16:01 |
rmoe | hi | 16:01 |
mihgen | hi | 16:01 |
kozhukalov | hi | 16:01 |
fzhadaev | Hi! | 16:01 |
SheenaG | \o/ | 16:01 |
akislitsky_ | hi | 16:01 |
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xarses | lets get started then | 16:02 |
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yottatsa | hi | 16:02 |
xarses | #action items from last meeting | 16:02 |
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xarses | doh | 16:02 |
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xarses | #topic action items from last meeting | 16:02 |
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xarses | SheenaG will follow up with GregE regarding desired UI elements from NFV features work in 9 | 16:02 |
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mattymo | hi | 16:03 |
SheenaG | Done - met with Dmitry and DP today to discuss, following up with DP on Monday re: minimum UI possible | 16:03 |
SheenaG | Dmitry will provide estimates of dates for API availability | 16:03 |
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SheenaG | Then UI team will scope work and determine if it's reasonable or not | 16:03 |
warpc | hi | 16:03 |
bgaifullin_ | hi all. | 16:03 |
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xarses | thanks | 16:04 |
xarses | SheenaG bookwar will follow up on creating a scenario/policy for vendor specific code | 16:04 |
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SheenaG | Had a meeting this morning, most of the details are ironed out - follow up for QA on who will monitor BVT failures on vendor specific ISO | 16:04 |
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sbog | hi | 16:05 |
SheenaG | xarses: next | 16:06 |
xarses | so we have identified who will create the scenario/policy? | 16:06 |
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SheenaG | xarses: bookwar_ has it all outlined, will send to mos-dev with follow up for QA | 16:06 |
xarses | ok, thanks | 16:07 |
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xarses | ogelbukh will start moving configdb code over to openstack | 16:07 |
bookwar_ | xarses: we working on details with vkramskikh and ikalnitsky | 16:07 |
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xarses | ogelbukh: ? | 16:08 |
xarses | thanks bookwar_ | 16:08 |
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xarses | moving on then | 16:08 |
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xarses | #topic UI Team status (vkramskikh) | 16:09 |
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vkramskikh | Hi! This week there was only 1 High UI bug for 8.0 ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1538757 ). It's not fixed yet, but is going to be fixed soon. | 16:09 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1538757 in Fuel for OpenStack 8.0.x "[fuelmenu] Default gateway set to None on 'Apply' action" [High,Incomplete] - Assigned to Matthew Mosesohn (raytrac3r) | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | We've started working on 9.0 features: | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | 1) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/converge-to-eslint-config-openstack - mostly done, some minor patches are expected. The spec is ready to be merged. | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | 2) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/redesign-of-node-roles-panel - in progress, probably we'll change the scope to introduce role groups for better UX and fix long-living bug-feature https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1375750 | 16:09 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1375750 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "Controller CPU/RAM are counted as cloud's capacity" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel UI Team (fuel-ui) | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | 3) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/network-requirements-popup - development is in progress | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | 4) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/node-display-ip-address - design is in progress | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | 5) Ability to show all network groups - part of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/multirack-in-fuel-ui which wasn't done in 8.0 - development is in progress | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | 9.0 features on hold: | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | 1) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/remove-vendor-code - waiting for infra | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | 2) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/separate-fuel-ui-repo - waiting for kozhukalov, who is busy with docker removal | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | 3) NVF features - scoping is still in progress | 16:09 |
vkramskikh | Questions? | 16:09 |
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angdraug | can you comment on remove-vendor-code? | 16:10 |
vkramskikh | what do you want to know? | 16:10 |
vkramskikh | as bookwar_ said, we're still discussing branching strategy | 16:10 |
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angdraug | do I understand it right that it's waiting on conclusion of the policy discussion between you, ikalnitsky, and bookwar? | 16:11 |
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vkramskikh | yes | 16:11 |
angdraug | ok, making sure there's nothing else pending from infra here | 16:11 |
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angdraug | thanks | 16:11 |
xarses | #topic Enhancements Team status (ashtokolov) | 16:12 |
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ashtokolov | We are working on: | 16:12 |
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ashtokolov | 1. Polishing task-based deployment engine and we are going to merge it next week | 16:12 |
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ashtokolov | 2. Gracefully stop Deployment and further restart it | 16:12 |
ashtokolov | 3. Deployment Tasks idempotency with Fuel Mixed Team | 16:12 |
ashtokolov | That's all | 16:13 |
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ashtokolov | Questions? | 16:13 |
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maximov | what about bugs related to task based deployments | 16:14 |
xarses | is the new task engine enabled by default in 8? | 16:14 |
ashtokolov | maximum, there are 3 bugs, we are going to fix all of them on this week | 16:14 |
maximov | ashtokolov: ok | 16:14 |
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angdraug | gracefully stop: is that referring to the problem of stopping a deployment of changes over an existing env? | 16:15 |
ashtokolov | xarses, nope, 8.0 - experimental only, 9.0 - by default | 16:15 |
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ashtokolov | angdraug, no, it's only for task-based and LCM | 16:15 |
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ashtokolov | Graceful stop can be enabled by task idempotency | 16:16 |
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xarses | does this mean that we are also going to be able to (eventually) resume after the first failure? | 16:16 |
angdraug | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084700.html | 16:16 |
angdraug | please make sure you take the thread ^ into account | 16:16 |
ashtokolov | xarses, it means that we will rerun puppets w/o reprovisioning for all node, which were stopped gracefully | 16:17 |
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ashtokolov | and re provision nodes with failed tasks | 16:17 |
ogelbukh_ | ashtokolov: re-run from the point where it was stopped? | 16:18 |
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ashtokolov | angdraug, there is no way to fix it with granular deployment | 16:18 |
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ashtokolov | ogelbukh_ from the beginning | 16:18 |
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xarses | re-provison failed nodes? wait what? | 16:19 |
ogelbukh_ | ashtokolov: good, thank you | 16:19 |
angdraug | ashtokolov: just make sure you don't break it further :) | 16:19 |
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angdraug | if you can't fix it, stop button should remain disabled for production envs | 16:19 |
angdraug | moving on? | 16:20 |
xarses | #topic idempotency (ashtokolov) | 16:20 |
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ashtokolov | xarses, if puppet finished with error, there is no way to be sure that rerun can help | 16:20 |
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ashtokolov | as I mentioned above we are working on Deployment Tasks idempotency with Fuel Mixed Team | 16:21 |
xarses | moving then? | 16:22 |
mwhahaha | well it might be able to be fixed if someone typoed a setting or ip address, but there's no guarantee that rerunning would fix it | 16:22 |
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ashtokolov | first step is to rerun all tasks twice and checks how it can brake the env | 16:22 |
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xarses | #topic NFV status and specs (yottatsa) | 16:23 |
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yottatsa | I’ve finished with specs for SR-IOV and DPDK features, as well as skolekonov done spec for NUMA/CPU pinning. Pls review. Design is almost established. | 16:23 |
yottatsa | Packaging is done and we’re ready for merging it in 9.0. | 16:23 |
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xarses | yottatsa: do we need to backport anything for 9-kilo? | 16:24 |
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yottatsa | smatov is working on backport question | 16:24 |
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xarses | ok, thanks | 16:25 |
xarses | #topic Telco Team Status (fzhadaev) | 16:25 |
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fzhadaev | Fuel Telco Team Status: | 16:25 |
fzhadaev | 1. One of the main activities is fixing of bugs for 8.0 | 16:25 |
fzhadaev | In progress: 2 | 16:25 |
fzhadaev | Done: 7 | 16:25 |
fzhadaev | 2. Actions related to 9.0: | 16:25 |
fzhadaev | 2.1 We're continue scoping NFV-related features. For now the spec for NUMA/CPU Pinning is in review state[1] and the spec for Huge Pages is in progress (soon will be on review). | 16:25 |
fzhadaev | 2.2 We've started scoping one of tech-debt items related to implementing support of cgroup containment for OpenStack and other services in order to not affect other services. There is no blueprint for this activity yet.. | 16:25 |
fzhadaev | [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273043/4/specs/9.0/support-numa-cpu-pinning.rst | 16:25 |
fzhadaev | That's all. Any questions? | 16:25 |
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xarses | I'm assuming your working with yottatsa on the NFV features? | 16:26 |
yottatsa | xarses fzhadaev yep | 16:27 |
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fzhadaev | yes ) | 16:27 |
angdraug | moving? | 16:28 |
xarses | #topic UCA Mitaka status (mattymo) | 16:28 |
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mattymo | oh I thought I put bugfix first. Let's do UCA | 16:28 |
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mattymo | I sent out a mail today regarding successful deployment of Mitaka b1 through bvt | 16:28 |
mattymo | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/085190.html | 16:29 |
angdraug | nice work! | 16:29 |
xarses | WOOO! | 16:29 |
mattymo | Some challenges are apt pins because there are haproxy and ceph packages there. Our config doesn't work with newer ceph, unfortunately | 16:29 |
ogelbukh_ | that's awesome, mattymo | 16:29 |
xarses | o.O | 16:30 |
mattymo | The only openstack bug we haven't fixed is one that reproduces in devstack. nova service-list reports extra services that don't actually report any status. osapi_compute and metadata. The services really do work, but they report XXX state. rpodolyaka is going to work on fixing that upstream | 16:30 |
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mattymo | bookwar_, will set up a regular job so we can gate against UCA Mitaka starting next week to make sure we don't introduce regressions | 16:30 |
xarses | mattymo: please send me a bug on the ceph issue | 16:30 |
angdraug | have you overcome the apt pin challenges for haproxy and ceph or is that still a problem? | 16:31 |
mattymo | xarses, I don't have one yet... I was more racing to get it deployed than to figure out exactly how it broke. I have time now to give you a good report, however. Expect it tomorrow | 16:31 |
mattymo | the pins aren't hard to set up, no | 16:31 |
xarses | ok thanks, this is fantastic anyways | 16:31 |
angdraug | ok good, so you're not blocked on that | 16:31 |
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mattymo | b1 landed on Jan 20, midway through testing, so it was funny to see it break | 16:31 |
angdraug | cores, please get this reviewed and merged asap | 16:31 |
angdraug | you mean b2? | 16:32 |
mattymo | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:puppet-mitaka iberezovsky is coordinating all the puppet fixes, actually. I had a lot of help from him. We're hoping to land all the mitaka manifests by tomorrow | 16:32 |
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mihgen | great work guys, thank you | 16:34 |
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xarses | please keep in mind, we want to avoid patching the openstack module | 16:34 |
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mattymo | xarses, there are very few of those | 16:35 |
mattymo | We can move on to bugfixing I believe | 16:35 |
xarses | #topic Bugs team status (mattymo, akislitsky) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-bugs-status | 16:35 |
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mattymo | I won't spam you this week. Breakdown of open bugs for Fuel 8.0 is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-bugs-status | 16:35 |
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mattymo | There are 39 critical/high bugs open. The majority is in Python team. In Library side (where I am), bugfix team owns only a handful of what's open, so we're mainly working on bugs confirmation and then medium 9.0 bugs. | 16:35 |
mattymo | We have 2 very serious library side bugs. One is regarding ntpdate and the other regarding openstack client and keystone availability. | 16:35 |
mattymo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1533082 which sbog is working on | 16:36 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1533082 in Fuel for OpenStack 8.0.x "[BVT] Deployment failed with Failed to execute hook 'sync_time' command: cd / && ntpdate -u" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Stanislaw Bogatkin (sbogatkin) | 16:36 |
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mattymo | this is the other: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1539117 | 16:36 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1539117 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "Keystone api sporadically stops answering" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to MOS Puppet Team (mos-puppet) | 16:36 |
mihgen | holser_: I thought you merged a fix to this one ^^^ ? | 16:36 |
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mattymo | the second is keystone api availability is really quite poor, even on a single controller deployment | 16:36 |
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holser_ | The fix didn’t help a lot | 16:37 |
mattymo | it causes random deployment failures | 16:37 |
aglarendil | mihgen: this is completely diffferent bug | 16:37 |
holser_ | though we produced another fix | 16:37 |
mihgen | I meant for 1533082 | 16:37 |
aglarendil | okay, so it did not help much, I changed some of the args of timeout command to make it kill ntpdate in a less gentle manner | 16:38 |
aglarendil | mihgen: ^^ | 16:38 |
mihgen | :( | 16:38 |
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mihgen | it's still regression folks, as we had may be not ideal but better situation before | 16:38 |
mihgen | so may be we increased a load to VMs? | 16:39 |
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mihgen | may be we can mitigate it now just by increasing resources for CI? And switch to sntp in 9.0? | 16:39 |
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holser_ | yep for #1533082 | 16:39 |
aglarendil | mihgen: we do not have RCA right now. it seems an ntpdate bug which might have been triggered by underlying OS changes, e.g. security or kernel updates | 16:39 |
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aglarendil | mihgen: it is just the start of the deployment, there is no significant load so far | 16:40 |
mihgen | (( let's keep troubleshooting then... | 16:40 |
xarses | moving? | 16:41 |
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xarses | #topic review queue bit.ly/1RD6JLR (mihgen) | 16:41 |
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mihgen | Just wanted to highlight this. For fuel-specs repo, holser, ikalnitsky, can you take an action item and ensure that subject matter experts review those? | 16:41 |
mihgen | nurla - please take a look at fuel-qa patches | 16:41 |
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ikalnitsky | mihgen: sure | 16:42 |
mihgen | kozhukalov: there is a patch to fuel-agent too | 16:42 |
nurla | mihgen: sure | 16:42 |
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mihgen | that's it for this one | 16:42 |
xarses | #topic Fuel/Solar integration workshop: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-solar-workshop-poznan-jan-16 (mihgen) | 16:42 |
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mihgen | It is hard to tell in a few words what have been discussed. We'd still need to make some of a decisions. So overall we've discussed: | 16:42 |
mihgen | 1) Issues which we have with current Fuel data flow (astute.yaml, can't easy extend/modify data, etc.) | 16:42 |
mihgen | 2) ConfigService proposal and how it may solve issues. To my view, it's in many ways similar to Solar resources + plugable Data Processors | 16:42 |
mihgen | 3) Solar concepts and appoach to solving issues outlined presented | 16:42 |
mihgen | 4) Problems with the approach identified, which needs to be resolved - | 16:42 |
mihgen | a) If we consider Fuel Managers, aka Network Manager, Volume Manager, etc. as having their own DBs, then there will be problem of syncronization of data with SolarDB. Or, we'd have to acknoledge that there will be no way to rollback configuration of environment, and we can move only forward with changes. | 16:43 |
mihgen | b) it's not yet fully clear what component and how will be creating Solar resources (we call it Policy Engine, but there is no clear definition for it yet) | 16:43 |
mihgen | so it's still early to have any final decisions, but I think we are doing a good progress overall | 16:43 |
angdraug | no rollback sounds like a no-go to me | 16:43 |
mihgen | in understanding how Solar+Fuel would work together | 16:43 |
mihgen | angdraug: it may be a hard-to-believe reality ;) | 16:44 |
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mihgen | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-solar-workshop-poznan-jan-16 | 16:44 |
aglarendil | mihgen: distributed transactional coordination engine is a must have in this architecture | 16:44 |
mihgen | so you can take a look for some notes there | 16:45 |
YorikSar | angdraug: rollback will have to be implemented as some external script. No single component (even Solar) can contain enough knowledge to handle rollback. | 16:45 |
aglarendil | it is hard to write such things | 16:45 |
ogelbukh_ | no rollback is ok as long as there's restore | 16:45 |
xarses | it won't be | 16:45 |
aglarendil | but it is what we need to do | 16:45 |
xarses | it will have to be integrated | 16:45 |
angdraug | +1 to aglarendil | 16:45 |
aglarendil | although some of things are not rollbackable | 16:45 |
xarses | getting rollback in the normal workflow is a blocker | 16:46 |
aglarendil | e.g. if you actually zero out data on the disk | 16:46 |
aglarendil | there is no way back | 16:46 |
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xarses | reprovision the node with the old settings =) | 16:46 |
aglarendil | but IP allocation or simpler things are important to get rollbacked at least from business logic point of view | 16:46 |
xarses | yes, data is gone | 16:46 |
YorikSar | aglarendil: We need to see user stories that are left uncovered before introducing distributed transactions. | 16:46 |
salmon_ | rollback sometimes may be possible. It depends from where we get a data which needs to be reverted | 16:46 |
ogelbukh_ | that's not rollback, xarses :) that's revert or restore | 16:46 |
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aglarendil | YorikSar: I frankly cannot understand the link between them | 16:47 |
angdraug | backup/restore is ok as a fallback, not as the only way to undo a change of a single line in nova.conf | 16:47 |
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xarses | as far as the operator is concerened, they have to be able to un-do or go back to old settings | 16:47 |
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pigmej | aglarendil: even with distributed transactional engine you may end with a state that you can't rollback. With multiple sources of data you're in troubles anyway | 16:47 |
aglarendil | I think we need to move this hot topic to ML | 16:47 |
xarses | aglarendil: +1 | 16:47 |
mihgen | we'll try to collect all the pros/cons | 16:47 |
aglarendil | pigmej: I may in troubles out of the box even with one source of data | 16:47 |
pigmej | yeah but then it's different story | 16:48 |
xarses | lets move on then | 16:48 |
xarses | #topic Mixed Team Status (asaprykin) | 16:48 |
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mihgen | it's gonna be quite hard to discuss over email, frankly, as it's complicated even near whiteboard | 16:48 |
asaprykin | Mixed team is working on bugfixing and reviews. | 16:48 |
asaprykin | Currently we have 3 high priority bugs related to 8.0. | 16:48 |
asaprykin | For https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1538526 (zynzel) patch is ready and on review. It's being tested by QA team and will be merged after it's done. | 16:48 |
asaprykin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1536314 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1538226 are on review as well. | 16:48 |
asaprykin | Estimated time when patches will be merged is Monday \ Tuesday. | 16:48 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1538526 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "Openstack-config missing relationships for new options" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Bartosz Kupidura (zynzel) | 16:48 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1536314 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "Verify network fails after backup-reinstall-restore Fuel" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Peter Zhurba (pzhurba) | 16:48 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1538226 in Fuel for OpenStack "Master node migration failed with on 'lvcreate os -n root -L 9,77g'" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Peter Zhurba (pzhurba) | 16:48 |
asaprykin | Questions? | 16:49 |
xarses | #action aglarendil raise rollback support in solar to the ML for further discussion | 16:49 |
ogelbukh_ | mihgen: I guess this cannot be discussed in an abstract manner, we need to be much more concrete on what we gonna do and how | 16:49 |
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ogelbukh_ | 1536314 - does it relate to dockerctl backup/restore? | 16:50 |
ogelbukh_ | asaprykin: ^^ | 16:50 |
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asaprykin | Yes, it is related to dockerctl backup/restore | 16:51 |
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ogelbukh_ | does it even make sense to fix if we are dropping docker in 9.0? | 16:51 |
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mihgen | 8.0 still have docker | 16:52 |
asaprykin | It should be backported to 8.0 | 16:52 |
ogelbukh_ | it says mitaka in bug report | 16:52 |
ogelbukh_ | k, I see | 16:52 |
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xarses | #topic Network Team status (alex_didenko) | 16:53 |
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ogelbukh_ | we have troubles with it in 7.0 too, are you going to backport it there as well? | 16:53 |
alex_didenko | We're working on bugs. Also we're in the process of deprecating and removing old "nodes" list. This list does not take into account network roles and templates so pulling information from it is not reliable. We should pull info from "network_metadata" instead. | 16:54 |
alex_didenko | It's already removed from fuel-library, all the corresponding functions are updated as well. Removing it from nailgun is in TODO. | 16:54 |
alex_didenko | We're also working on a bunch of tricky bugs, running a lot of discussions on them in order to find the best solution. Some of those discussions are on ML already so feel free to join :) | 16:54 |
alex_didenko | That's it, thanks | 16:55 |
xarses | #topic Upgrades team status (ogelbukh) | 16:55 |
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asaprykin | ogelbukh_: AFAIK it's about 8.0 currently. Need to clarify this information. | 16:55 |
xarses | alex_didenko: thanks! | 16:55 |
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ogelbukh_ | we've completed backup part, working on restore on 8.0 | 16:56 |
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ogelbukh_ | some issues in astute's puppet manifest, nothing blocking | 16:57 |
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ogelbukh_ | I also wanted to ask for revivews on bunch of upgrade specs for 9.0 and further | 16:57 |
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angdraug | links? | 16:57 |
mihgen | ogelbukh_: you'd need to coordinate with holser_ & ikalnitsky on who should be assigned from subject matter experts.. | 16:58 |
ogelbukh_ | got some excellent feedback already from xarses and mwhahaha | 16:58 |
ogelbukh_ | mihgen: yes, we do, and will go on | 16:58 |
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xarses | 1 min | 16:59 |
angdraug | configdb? | 16:59 |
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xarses | #topic Configdb status (ogelbukh, ytaraday) | 16:59 |
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ogelbukh_ | angdraug: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/fuel-specs+owner:%22Oleg+Gelbukh+%253Cogelbukh%2540mirantis.com%253E%22 - spec links | 16:59 |
YorikSar | We've been and will be discussing it with Solar team here. | 16:59 |
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YorikSar | It's unclear if it's still needed if we target Solar, that's yet to be discussed.. | 17:00 |
angdraug | thanks, and time | 17:00 |
tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
xarses | and thats time, thanks for playing folks | 17:00 |
xarses | @endmeeting | 17:00 |
xarses | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
ogelbukh_ | bye, thanks | 17:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 28 17:00:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-01-28-16.00.html | 17:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-01-28-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-01-28-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
hyakuhei | #startmeeting Security | 17:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 28 17:01:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:01 |
hyakuhei | #chair tmcpeak | 17:01 |
tkelsey | o/ | 17:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: hyakuhei tmcpeak | 17:01 |
hyakuhei | o/ | 17:01 |
tmcpeak | o/ | 17:01 |
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rockstar | o/ | 17:01 |
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hyakuhei | tmcpeak: I have to finish a call, you’ll have my full attention in 2 minutes or so | 17:01 |
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elmiko | hi | 17:01 |
tmcpeak | hyakuhei: cool man | 17:01 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: what up | 17:01 |
dg_ | hey | 17:01 |
elmiko | tmcpeak: nada, you? | 17:02 |
shelleea007 | hello | 17:02 |
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tmcpeak | yo yo | 17:02 |
tmcpeak | pretty good | 17:02 |
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tmcpeak | let's start building up an agenda | 17:02 |
browne | o/ | 17:02 |
tmcpeak | one sec, I'll do an etherpad | 17:02 |
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tmcpeak | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-20160128-agenda | 17:02 |
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michaelxin | hi | 17:02 |
tmcpeak | please add all the things to the etherpad | 17:03 |
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michaelxin | elmiko: did you get the stickers? | 17:03 |
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elmiko | michaelxin: i did, thank you! | 17:04 |
elmiko | i even put one on my laptop already XD | 17:04 |
michaelxin | great. np | 17:04 |
hyakuhei | back :) | 17:04 |
hyakuhei | Man those stickers are awesome | 17:04 |
dg_ | there is stickers? | 17:04 |
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dg_ | s/is/are | 17:04 |
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hyakuhei | dg_: I have some for you | 17:05 |
michaelxin | I ran into Rachel who designed the logos and gave her a couple too. | 17:05 |
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hyakuhei | Excellent, Rachel is awesome! | 17:05 |
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dg_ | hyakuhei sweet | 17:05 |
michaelxin | +1 | 17:05 |
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hyakuhei | ok then, lets crank it :) | 17:05 |
hyakuhei | #topic Bandit | 17:05 |
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tmcpeak | cool, so we did a new release this week | 17:05 |
tmcpeak | ahem, three of them | 17:06 |
hyakuhei | lol | 17:06 |
tmcpeak | thanks to a bunch of silliness | 17:06 |
browne | haha | 17:06 |
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tmcpeak | basically that was just to implement the .bandit feature some of the teams I'm working with really needed | 17:06 |
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tmcpeak | that buys us some time to do 1.0 with good quality and the way we want | 17:06 |
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michaelxin | good job | 17:06 |
tmcpeak | if we need anything else meantime we can push to "stable" which is basically the 0.17.x line | 17:06 |
tmcpeak | next real release will be 1.0 it seems | 17:07 |
tmcpeak | tkelsey: you want to do an update on that? | 17:07 |
tkelsey | on the 1.0 front, I have a bunch of changes for new/old config compatibility | 17:07 |
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tkelsey | 1.0 will have backwards compatibility to help early adopters move over | 17:07 |
tmcpeak | I'll do thorough reviews later this morning | 17:07 |
tkelsey | we are actually quite close to 1.0 feature wise, but we need to do a push on bringing docs up to date | 17:08 |
tmcpeak | sweet | 17:08 |
tmcpeak | and TONS of testing | 17:08 |
tkelsey | and close of a bunch of bugs etc | 17:08 |
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tkelsey | tmcpeak: +1 | 17:09 |
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elmiko | nice, and it's awesome to see all the activity recently from new folks getting into bandit | 17:09 |
tkelsey | elmiko: for sure :D | 17:09 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: +1 | 17:09 |
tkelsey | we seem to have had a surge of interest following the midcycle :) | 17:09 |
tkelsey | very nice to see | 17:09 |
tmcpeak | seems like it's really picking up steam | 17:09 |
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elmiko | yea, totally awesome and job well done to the bandit team =) | 17:10 |
michaelxin | +1 | 17:10 |
hyakuhei | +! | 17:10 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: thanks! | 17:10 |
tkelsey | well job well done OSSP :) | 17:10 |
hyakuhei | +1 it’s a great flagship for the Security Project | 17:10 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:10 |
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hyakuhei | Anymore on Bandit? | 17:10 |
tkelsey | anyway, I have no more specific on bandit, we can move on unless there is more | 17:11 |
tmcpeak | that's good for Bandit | 17:11 |
tkelsey | heh | 17:11 |
tkelsey | :) | 17:11 |
hyakuhei | coolio | 17:11 |
hyakuhei | #topic Blog | 17:11 |
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hyakuhei | #link https://openstack-security.github.io | 17:11 |
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hyakuhei | There’s a few completed posts up there. It’d be nice to have more :) | 17:11 |
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tmcpeak | we should start trying to get it out there too | 17:12 |
hyakuhei | Ideas on that? | 17:12 |
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elmiko | hyakuhei: do you have any thoughts on what the general tone and topic should be there? | 17:12 |
tmcpeak | well let's add it to our deck | 17:12 |
tmcpeak | for starters | 17:12 |
mvaldes | is there any easy way to know they are complete? | 17:12 |
mvaldes | and which need contribution | 17:12 |
elmiko | for example, should it be general openstack security, or can we talk about specific projects? | 17:12 |
hyakuhei | If they’re listed there, they’re complete | 17:13 |
tmcpeak | share on the twitters? | 17:13 |
hyakuhei | Drafts should be in branchs/pull requests: https://github.com/openstack-security/openstack-security.github.io | 17:13 |
hyakuhei | everyone is welcome to contribute | 17:13 |
hyakuhei | and as long as it’s related you can blog it | 17:13 |
mvaldes | thank you | 17:13 |
elmiko | ack, so anything openstack + security related? | 17:14 |
hyakuhei | Want to blog about how RH uses sVirt for KVM, etc that’s fine | 17:14 |
hyakuhei | Yeah, no sales pitches, but you can take credit where it’s due | 17:14 |
elmiko | or how we use DogTag for perfect CA ? | 17:14 |
hyakuhei | ie the threat analysis post for example | 17:14 |
elmiko | dang.. | 17:14 |
hyakuhei | elmiko: exactly | 17:14 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: LOOL | 17:14 |
dg_ | elmiko lol | 17:14 |
* elmiko wishes nkinder was here | 17:14 | |
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michaelxin | +1 | 17:15 |
hyakuhei | :D | 17:15 |
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hyakuhei | Might be worth doing something clever to cross post to medium or something like that | 17:15 |
elmiko | also, did you register the blog with planet openstack? | 17:15 |
elmiko | i thought we had a nice rss agregator somewhere | 17:16 |
tmcpeak | I will add it to our security pitch deck | 17:16 |
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hyakuhei | Excellent plan elmiko | 17:16 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: http://planet.openstack.org/ | 17:16 |
hyakuhei | #action hyakuhei to register with planet.openstack.org | 17:16 |
hyakuhei | Thanks elmiko | 17:16 |
tmcpeak | yeah, good idea | 17:16 |
michaelxin | what's planet website for? | 17:17 |
hyakuhei | Aggregator | 17:17 |
elmiko | it's a blog aggregator | 17:17 |
hyakuhei | Click on it | 17:17 |
hyakuhei | We’re on the front page atm :D | 17:17 |
michaelxin | http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/takeaways-from-the-openstack-mitaka-mid-cycle-security-meetup | 17:17 |
hyakuhei | whoop! | 17:17 |
michaelxin | who wrote this? Good job! | 17:18 |
browne | cool | 17:18 |
tmcpeak | michaelxin: Nicole from the foundation wrote it, but Rob and I answered her questions for it | 17:18 |
hyakuhei | There’s a lot of copy/paste in there :) | 17:18 |
michaelxin | excellent | 17:19 |
hyakuhei | and a lot of love for you guys | 17:19 |
michaelxin | tmcpeak: Thanks. | 17:19 |
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tmcpeak | yeah, I'm already missing breakfast tacos | 17:19 |
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hyakuhei | lol | 17:19 |
hyakuhei | any more on that ? | 17:19 |
michaelxin | lol | 17:19 |
tmcpeak | should be good | 17:19 |
hyakuhei | Ok, decent sized agenda today so let’s roll on. | 17:20 |
hyakuhei | #topic OSSN | 17:20 |
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hyakuhei | Only three in the queue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn it would be nice to clear them out | 17:20 |
tmcpeak | 0060 finally out the door :P | 17:20 |
hyakuhei | any takers? | 17:20 |
hyakuhei | Dave Mc was working on the Nova/Cinder one | 17:21 |
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elmiko | i thought there was some question about the blacklist one, no? | 17:21 |
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elmiko | like, should it even be an ossn | 17:21 |
hyakuhei | Let me take another look | 17:22 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: which one? | 17:22 |
hyakuhei | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1497031 | 17:22 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1497031 in OpenStack Security Notes "Authenticated Denial of Service in Blacklists" [Undecided,New] | 17:22 |
elmiko | the possible dos from designate | 17:22 |
mdong | yeah I was the one who found that bug, it’s already been mitigated in Designate | 17:22 |
elmiko | we had a big discussion about whether this was a vuln or just bad config or something | 17:22 |
tmcpeak | I remember this | 17:22 |
hyakuhei | Would it DoS all of Designate or just one users instance/invocation | 17:23 |
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mdong | when it was reported, all of Designate | 17:23 |
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hyakuhei | My feeling is it probably is OSSN worthy | 17:24 |
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elmiko | cool | 17:24 |
tmcpeak | I don't know what we'd propose as a mitigation? | 17:24 |
hyakuhei | oh wait, ok I just the that blacklist creation is admin-only | 17:24 |
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hyakuhei | Don’t create a dumb blacklist? | 17:24 |
hyakuhei | As Security notes are just signposts for users about bad/insecure things I’d be ok with an OSSN | 17:25 |
tmcpeak | haha | 17:25 |
elmiko | ok, i can take a stab at it since i kicked the dustball | 17:25 |
rockstar | I'd agree that the 3rd option is probably the most practical. | 17:25 |
tmcpeak | hyakuhei: hmm ok, if we're really telling admin's "be conscious about your blacklist" doesn't seem like that really needs a note, does it? | 17:25 |
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elmiko | lol, this is like a re-do of the conversation we had last time | 17:26 |
tmcpeak | it seems far down on the list of bad things admin could do | 17:26 |
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hyakuhei | WontFix. | 17:26 |
hyakuhei | Next. | 17:26 |
tmcpeak | :D | 17:27 |
hyakuhei | sicarie: you around to talk Security guide? | 17:27 |
elmiko | we've had a few slow weeks for the sec-guide | 17:27 |
hyakuhei | Any updates? | 17:27 |
sicarie | elmiko is probably better suited for this update | 17:27 |
hyakuhei | #topic Security Guide | 17:27 |
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sicarie | I've been underwater on other things | 17:27 |
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elmiko | mainly just small bug fixes coming in | 17:27 |
elmiko | i think we still have a long term plan to get a new leaf version out, but i don't think there has been movement on it | 17:28 |
elmiko | that's about it, we need to get back on track with our plans for revamping some of the networking sections though | 17:29 |
sicarie | "some" | 17:29 |
hyakuhei | What’s required to help drive that forward? | 17:29 |
elmiko | sicarie: ;) | 17:29 |
elmiko | i think we mainly need more bodies who are willing to do doc work and now the networking service well | 17:29 |
sicarie | the leaf version requires a pdf, so we need to get the sphinx jobs back up and running and producing it | 17:29 |
elmiko | s/now/know/ | 17:30 |
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sicarie | networking requires either a neutron resource or someone to spend quite a bit of time int he code | 17:30 |
hyakuhei | Is it worth sending a mail to -dev asking for contributors from Neutron ? | 17:30 |
sicarie | i've been pushing to get the neutron docs lead, but haven't been able to tie him down | 17:30 |
tmcpeak | hyakuhei: that seems reasonable | 17:30 |
sicarie | could be, though I think i attempted that at one point last year | 17:30 |
hyakuhei | Breifly explain what the SecGuide is, how there’s a noticable gap for Neutron and ask for help bridging that? | 17:30 |
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sicarie | yeah, seems reasonable | 17:31 |
tmcpeak | should probably keep it rolling, looks like we're about 1/3 through agenda and 1/2 through time | 17:31 |
hyakuhei | Anyone want that as an action? | 17:31 |
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sicarie | if nobody else will, i will, but it won't be completed until mid to late next week | 17:32 |
hyakuhei | #action sicarie to find someone to write or author himself a mail for -dev re: contributing to the sec guide | 17:32 |
hyakuhei | #topic Outreach | 17:32 |
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hyakuhei | tmcpeak: ? | 17:32 |
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tmcpeak | nothing new on my side, anybody get anywhere with setting up new meetups? | 17:33 |
michaelxin | As you might know that Rackspace are teaming with Intel | 17:33 |
elmiko | in the next month or two, i am going to be connecting with the MichSec group | 17:33 |
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elmiko | #link http://michsec.org/ | 17:33 |
elmiko | gonna try to setup a talk with them | 17:33 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: awesome! | 17:33 |
michaelxin | We are working on a proposal to get someone from Intel to work on OSSP | 17:34 |
tmcpeak | I'm also going to follow up with some professors at SJSU and SCU and see if any students are interested in hearing about this | 17:34 |
elmiko | michaelxin: ooh, nice | 17:34 |
tmcpeak | michaelxin: that would be awesome | 17:34 |
elmiko | tmcpeak: +1 | 17:34 |
michaelxin | Will keep you guys updated with the progress | 17:34 |
michaelxin | elmiko: +1 | 17:34 |
hyakuhei | excellent! | 17:34 |
tmcpeak | that's probably good on outreach this week | 17:35 |
michaelxin | agree | 17:35 |
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hyakuhei | #topic Summit Talks | 17:35 |
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tmcpeak | when is voting open? | 17:35 |
ccneill | o/ sorry I'm late, stupid monitor was being stupid | 17:36 |
tmcpeak | I guess after deadline, Jan 31? | 17:36 |
elmiko | hehe, i hope so ;) | 17:36 |
hyakuhei | Deadline over the weekend, FYI I’m putting in three talks, one an update on the awesomeness of the security group, second one on threat analysis and third a laterall exploitation talk | 17:36 |
hyakuhei | tmcpeak: TBD | 17:36 |
tmcpeak | I've got one with gmurphy on Security CI | 17:36 |
michaelxin | gee, talk monster | 17:36 |
hyakuhei | Lol, I only list them for full disclosure :) | 17:37 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: laterall exploitation? | 17:37 |
hyakuhei | Three’s the max this time around | 17:37 |
hyakuhei | Yeah, so what can you do to a production cloud if $x suffers a compromise | 17:37 |
hyakuhei | Say, Nova, Libvert, Swift Backend server etc | 17:37 |
elmiko | oh, awesome | 17:37 |
michaelxin | shut down it | 17:37 |
tmcpeak | michaelxin: LOL | 17:37 |
tristanC | oh hai, I might propose an OpenStack CVE Process to answer the I think I found a security bug, what | 17:37 |
hyakuhei | Well we always just assume it’s all FUBAR and it probably is | 17:37 |
tristanC | happens now? | 17:37 |
hyakuhei | but I’m going to have graphics! | 17:37 |
elmiko | tristanC: +1 | 17:38 |
hyakuhei | tristanC: Great plan! | 17:38 |
hyakuhei | As OpenStack grows we get lots of derivative talks. A few years back I did one reviewing all the major OSSA and CVE | 17:38 |
hyakuhei | Next summit had 5 proposals doing the same thing | 17:38 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: i've been working on something that is similar about exploiting clouds from the inside, not up for a talk yet, but i'm curious how accepting the summit commitee is for talks that show exploits? | 17:39 |
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hyakuhei | TALKS LIKE THAT ARE AWESOME | 17:39 |
hyakuhei | I mean, not so much if they’re 0days | 17:39 |
tmcpeak | way more if they're 0 days | 17:39 |
hyakuhei | :D | 17:39 |
dg_ | lol summit != blackhat | 17:39 |
hyakuhei | So long as responsible disclosure has been followed for whatever the issue is, go nuts | 17:39 |
michaelxin | Anyone knows exactly about talk reviewing/acceptance process? | 17:40 |
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hyakuhei | michaelxin: Sure, ping me an email if you like | 17:40 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: ack, excitement noted ;) | 17:40 |
tmcpeak | you make a bribe to Rob, and you're off to the races | 17:40 |
elmiko | haha | 17:40 |
michaelxin | tmcpeak: +1 | 17:40 |
hyakuhei | Or we can followup after this but I’ve got limited availability | 17:40 |
dg_ | tmcpeak its more complicated than that, you have to bribe elmiko too | 17:40 |
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michaelxin | hyakuhei: sure, will send you an email. | 17:40 |
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tmcpeak | ;) | 17:41 |
elmiko | dg_: sadly, i'm not on the conference commitee | 17:41 |
hyakuhei | michaelxin: My paypal is the same address | 17:41 |
michaelxin | just wired you 10,000$ :-) | 17:41 |
hyakuhei | Sweet | 17:41 |
hyakuhei | What are you going to say in your 10 talks ? | 17:41 |
hyakuhei | because you bought the track | 17:41 |
dg_ | lol | 17:41 |
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elmiko | haha | 17:42 |
hyakuhei | Right, limited time so we’ll breeze through this next bit | 17:42 |
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hyakuhei | #topic Design Summit Proposals | 17:42 |
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dg_ | me me me me | 17:42 |
michaelxin | how many sessions will we get this time? | 17:42 |
hyakuhei | Not for a while yet, we will be trying to get many more slots this time as well as sessions on the X-project | 17:42 |
hyakuhei | michaelxin: we won’t know that for quite some time | 17:43 |
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tmcpeak | x project? | 17:43 |
dg_ | im keen to do a design session on threat analysis, and maybe one on PKI | 17:43 |
hyakuhei | dg_: +1 | 17:43 |
michaelxin | +1 | 17:43 |
tmcpeak | dg_ that would be awesome | 17:43 |
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elmiko | dg_: i'd be up for that | 17:43 |
hyakuhei | #topic Threat Analysis - Next Steps | 17:43 |
elmiko | TA that is | 17:43 |
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dg_ | and i had a crazy idea to get a group of interested people together and try and run through a threat analysis on the last day of the summit, the one where there is no talks | 17:43 |
hyakuhei | dg_: Yup that’ll be a good thing to try | 17:44 |
michaelxin | Tim's breakdown of bandit plugin in mid-cycle is a great one | 17:44 |
hyakuhei | I’m hoping to get anchor through one first | 17:44 |
dg_ | +1 meetup in bristol/wales | 17:44 |
tkelsey | ty michaelxin :) | 17:44 |
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michaelxin | It will teach new members to get start quickly. | 17:45 |
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hyakuhei | Yeah! | 17:45 |
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hyakuhei | ok, speeding on! | 17:45 |
hyakuhei | #topic SWAG | 17:45 |
michaelxin | We also like a session about fuzzing testing API, include syntribos | 17:45 |
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elmiko | michaelxin: +1 | 17:45 |
hyakuhei | Do we want swag for the conference. | 17:46 |
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tmcpeak | hyakuhei: yes, yes we do. | 17:46 |
michaelxin | Do we have budget? | 17:46 |
elmiko | who doesn't want swag... | 17:46 |
dg_ | yes. preferably not black | 17:46 |
tmcpeak | hoodies with the logo? | 17:46 |
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hyakuhei | michaelxin: Do you think we could get Rachel’s help again? | 17:46 |
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michaelxin | from foundation? | 17:46 |
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michaelxin | hyakuhei: Yes. | 17:46 |
dg_ | tmcpeak +1 | 17:46 |
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michaelxin | She is happy to help. | 17:46 |
hyakuhei | I’m finding out about budget this week | 17:46 |
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elmiko | since it's in austin, i think 10 gallon hats or oversized belt buckles | 17:46 |
hyakuhei | +1000 | 17:46 |
dg_ | +1 | 17:46 |
mvaldes | lol | 17:46 |
elmiko | haha | 17:46 |
michaelxin | +1 | 17:47 |
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hyakuhei | I’m trying to put together funding. Add your name and a +1 to the etherpad if you want swag please | 17:47 |
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tmcpeak | which etherpad? | 17:48 |
michaelxin | which etherpad? | 17:48 |
tmcpeak | we have a swag etherpad? | 17:48 |
elmiko | lol | 17:48 |
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dg_ | swaggerpad | 17:48 |
hyakuhei | the agenda one | 17:48 |
hyakuhei | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-20160128-agenda | 17:48 |
hyakuhei | haha | 17:48 |
hyakuhei | ok, need to move on, we’ll skip the writeup | 17:48 |
hyakuhei | #topic Syntribos | 17:48 |
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hyakuhei | michaelxin: you’ve got a whole 5 minutes for Syntribos! | 17:48 |
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michaelxin | Is mdong here? | 17:49 |
michaelxin | So MDong has been working on it. | 17:49 |
michaelxin | The team met and discussed about the plans and futures. | 17:49 |
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tmcpeak | ccneill: lol | 17:49 |
ccneill | :D | 17:49 |
mdong | sorry I’m here | 17:50 |
michaelxin | We created some blueprints for features that we want to implement | 17:50 |
michaelxin | The team started working on it. | 17:50 |
hyakuhei | I demand links! | 17:50 |
mdong | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/syntribos | 17:50 |
hyakuhei | Nice. I might even be able to help with some of those | 17:51 |
michaelxin | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:51 |
mvaldes | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/syntribos | 17:51 |
tkelsey | hyakuhei michaelxin +1 | 17:51 |
mdong | so we definitely want to build some serious momentum here, a few people on our team have started work, and we’d love it if more can join | 17:51 |
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elmiko | i would really love to get involved with syntribos, i've just been over-stretched recently :/ | 17:52 |
hyakuhei | We might be able to push some effort torwards it | 17:52 |
tkelsey | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:52 |
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hyakuhei | tmcpeak: tmcpeak: thoughts on applicability to HDP (edge testing)? | 17:52 |
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tmcpeak | hyakuhei: yeah, definitely seems like something we should at least play with | 17:53 |
hyakuhei | +1 | 17:53 |
hyakuhei | Excellent, we can throw some small amount of effort at it for a while then :) | 17:53 |
tkelsey | seems like some nice low hanging fruit on the BP page | 17:53 |
tkelsey | formatters for example | 17:53 |
tmcpeak | I'll carve out a few hours to play with it | 17:53 |
hyakuhei | +1 | 17:53 |
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mdong | awesome! glad to hear it | 17:54 |
hyakuhei | Next up I had Anchor 1.0 discussion but I have zero bandwidth for that this week anyway so that can roll on | 17:54 |
hyakuhei | #topic Any Other Business | 17:54 |
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hyakuhei | Consider throwing your twitter handles on the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-20160128-agenda | 17:54 |
hyakuhei | So we can promote links/blog posts etc a little more easily | 17:54 |
hyakuhei | Anything else to discuss in the next 5 minutes? | 17:55 |
dg_ | TA, very quickly? | 17:55 |
dg_ | elmiko I've gone through your comments and made a whole bunch of changes, will be pushing to gerrit again soon, so please have a look when its up | 17:55 |
hyakuhei | Sure | 17:55 |
elmiko | dg_: ack, will do, and thanks =) | 17:56 |
dg_ | still obviously WIP, but iterating in the correct direction, I hope | 17:56 |
elmiko | yea | 17:56 |
hyakuhei | We need to have a separate meeting about TA next week, to discuss next steps, where docs are going to live, the tools we’re going to use, how to step through the process etc | 17:56 |
elmiko | i realize those docs will need to be hammered on for a bit, hence why i was trying to avoid -1'ing just yet | 17:56 |
dg_ | hyakuhei +1 | 17:56 |
elmiko | yea, +1 | 17:56 |
elmiko | maybe a google hangout or something? | 17:57 |
dg_ | yeah sounds good | 17:57 |
michaelxin | +1 | 17:57 |
michaelxin | Please include me too. | 17:57 |
hyakuhei | Yeah. Throw your email address on the agenda | 17:57 |
hyakuhei | I put a section at the bottom | 17:57 |
dg_ | hyakuhei add times you can do to an etherpad for TA meetup | 17:57 |
hyakuhei | Sure, though I was going to email around re: times. | 17:58 |
dg_ | whatevs | 17:58 |
hyakuhei | ok we’re running up on time. Any last minute stuff? | 17:58 |
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hyakuhei | Righto, lets call it :) | 17:59 |
hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 28 17:59:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
hyakuhei | Thanks all! | 17:59 |
michaelxin | bye | 17:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-01-28-17.01.html | 17:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-01-28-17.01.txt | 17:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-01-28-17.01.log.html | 17:59 |
tmcpeak | later all! | 17:59 |
elmiko | thanks hyakuhei | 17:59 |
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hyakuhei | Good meeting! | 17:59 |
ccneill | o/ | 17:59 |
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tmcpeak | thanks hyakuhei | 18:00 |
dg_ | clap it out guys | 18:00 |
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amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 28 19:01:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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sriram | yo yo yo | 19:01 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:01 |
amitgandhinz | #topic Rollcall | 19:01 |
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sriram | o/ | 19:01 |
tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:01 |
amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:01 |
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amitgandhinz | Agenda ^ | 19:01 |
malini | o/ | 19:02 |
cathR | o/ | 19:02 |
amitgandhinz | #topic Review Last Week | 19:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Review Last Week (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:02 | |
amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy/2016/poppy.2016-01-21-19.05.html | 19:02 |
amitgandhinz | well nothing to report here lol | 19:02 |
amitgandhinz | looks pretty blank to me | 19:02 |
sriram | yeah we skipped the meeting last time. | 19:03 |
amitgandhinz | #topic Mitaka Progress | 19:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Mitaka Progress (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:03 | |
amitgandhinz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/mitaka | 19:03 |
amitgandhinz | sriram: Analytics Update - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/analytics | 19:03 |
sriram | amitgandhinz: yeah I have a base patch and a dependent patch | 19:04 |
sriram | let me get those patches | 19:04 |
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sriram | base patch: https://review.openstack.org/265924 | 19:04 |
sriram | dependent patch: https://review.openstack.org/271528 | 19:04 |
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sriram | so good progress :) | 19:05 |
amitgandhinz | the first one has a couple of +2's on it | 19:05 |
amitgandhinz | can we merge it? | 19:05 |
amitgandhinz | its sitting at +5 overall | 19:05 |
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sriram | we can nothing stopping us. | 19:06 |
amitgandhinz | the other one has a -1 | 19:06 |
sriram | yeah addressing them | 19:06 |
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sriram | and also fixing the way we handle async stuff, for better performance | 19:06 |
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amitgandhinz | ok cool | 19:07 |
amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/akamai-ssl-driver | 19:07 |
tonytan4ever | This one is an ongoing process | 19:07 |
tonytan4ever | Might leave it as Good Progress ? | 19:07 |
amitgandhinz | ya | 19:08 |
tonytan4ever | Cool | 19:08 |
amitgandhinz | sbartel around? | 19:08 |
amitgandhinz | not in the channel | 19:08 |
amitgandhinz | i did see him try to create the horizon ui project but havent seem any progress on it since then | 19:08 |
sriram | dont see him here. | 19:09 |
amitgandhinz | ok any other blueprints or bugs we need to discuss? | 19:09 |
sriram | malini: ^ | 19:09 |
sriram | I dont think so, these are the ones we are making major progress on. | 19:11 |
amitgandhinz | ok | 19:12 |
amitgandhinz | #topic Big Tent | 19:12 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Big Tent (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:12 | |
amitgandhinz | okay, lets have a discussion about Big Tent | 19:12 |
amitgandhinz | we should probably apply for this | 19:12 |
sriram | +1 | 19:12 |
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amitgandhinz | get some formality around our project since we are doing everything in the openstack way | 19:12 |
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sriram | what are the criteria we need to match? | 19:13 |
mkmad | Is there a deadline for the application? | 19:13 |
amitgandhinz | #link http://inaugust.com/posts/big-tent.html | 19:13 |
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amitgandhinz | basically if you are doing everything in the community in an openstack mindset then you are an openstack project and can ask to be part of big tent | 19:15 |
amitgandhinz | as far as i can tell, nothing else changes in the way we are currently doing things | 19:15 |
malini | Just found this one https://governance.openstack.org/reference/new-projects-requirements.html | 19:16 |
sriram | amitgandhinz: ok that makes sense. | 19:16 |
* sriram clicks | 19:16 | |
amitgandhinz | we have a strong history of all of that | 19:17 |
sriram | liasons. | 19:17 |
sriram | that is the only thing I can think about. | 19:17 |
sriram | I think we meet the other requirements | 19:17 |
sriram | amitgandhinz: at this point, since you are the PTL, you would be the liason too? So I think we meet that as well. | 19:18 |
amitgandhinz | we may as well ask, worse case they come back with some requests | 19:18 |
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sriram | amitgandhinz: true | 19:19 |
amitgandhinz | ok i will send an email to the TC for consideration | 19:19 |
sriram | wooot | 19:19 |
amitgandhinz | any objections? | 19:19 |
sriram | you waana do a vote? | 19:20 |
sriram | :P | 19:20 |
mkmad | Nope, please fire the email away!! | 19:20 |
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amitgandhinz | #vote apply for Big Tent | 19:20 |
sriram | #vote Yes | 19:20 |
mkmad | +1 | 19:20 |
amitgandhinz | #vote Yes | 19:20 |
mkmad | #vote Yes | 19:20 |
malini | #vote Yes | 19:20 |
cathR | #vote Yes | 19:21 |
sriram | Nice | 19:21 |
amitgandhinz | oops did that wrong lol | 19:21 |
amitgandhinz | #startvote Should we apply for Big Tent? Yes, No | 19:22 |
openstack | Begin voting on: Should we apply for Big Tent? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 19:22 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:22 |
amitgandhinz | #vote Yes | 19:22 |
sriram | #vote Yes | 19:22 |
mkmad | #vote Yes | 19:22 |
cathR | #vote Yes | 19:22 |
amitgandhinz | malini: tonytan4ever ? | 19:23 |
malini | #vote Yes | 19:23 |
tonytan4ever | YES | 19:23 |
tonytan4ever | #vote Yes | 19:23 |
amitgandhinz | #endvote | 19:23 |
openstack | Voted on "Should we apply for Big Tent?" Results are | 19:23 |
openstack | Yes (6): amitgandhinz, malini, mkmad, cathR, sriram, tonytan4ever | 19:23 |
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amitgandhinz | great | 19:23 |
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amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:23 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:23 | |
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amitgandhinz | so i submitted a talk for Austin Openstack | 19:24 |
sriram | nice work! | 19:24 |
amitgandhinz | just submitted one talk this time, same as the one i gave in Tokyo | 19:24 |
mkmad | Nice. | 19:24 |
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mkmad | What did you give on Tokyo? | 19:24 |
amitgandhinz | anyone else want to submit one? | 19:24 |
cathR | Woot! Come to Austin! | 19:24 |
sriram | tonytan4ever and I were thinking about showing of our usage on taskflow in poppy | 19:25 |
amitgandhinz | mkmad: you can watch it online - https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/videos/presentation/cdn-for-your-cloud-openstack-poppy | 19:25 |
sriram | tonytan4ever: ^ | 19:25 |
tonytan4ever | yes | 19:25 |
amitgandhinz | sriram: tonytan4ever: you should submit the talk | 19:25 |
amitgandhinz | the deadline is feb 1 | 19:25 |
tonytan4ever | Okay | 19:25 |
sriram | ok, lets work it on tomorrow, tonytan4ever :) | 19:26 |
mkmad | amitgandhinz: Great,Thanks!! | 19:26 |
tonytan4ever | We will try submit the talk tomorrow | 19:26 |
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amitgandhinz | ok any other topics to discuss? | 19:26 |
sriram | nothing from me | 19:26 |
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amitgandhinz | #action amitgandhinz to email TC regarding Big Tent | 19:27 |
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amitgandhinz | ok thanks everyone | 19:29 |
amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:29 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Discuss L7 feature (and review) timeline re: Mitaka (sbalukoff) (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 19:29 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 28 19:29:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:29 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2016/poppy_weekly_meeting.2016-01-28-19.01.html | 19:29 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2016/poppy_weekly_meeting.2016-01-28-19.01.txt | 19:29 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2016/poppy_weekly_meeting.2016-01-28-19.01.log.html | 19:29 |
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