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leong | #ping hughhalf | 02:01 |
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leong | #startmeeting product working group | 02:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 5 02:02:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is leong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' | 02:02 |
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leong | #chair add hughhalf | 02:02 |
openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: add | 02:02 |
openstack | Current chairs: add hughhalf leong | 02:02 |
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leong | #topic RollCall | 02:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: product working group)" | 02:03 | |
leong | who is here for product wg regional meeting? | 02:03 |
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leong | who is here for product wg regional meeting? | 02:08 |
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leong | Not enough quorum.. meeting adjourned | 02:11 |
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leong | #endmeeting | 02:12 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 02:12 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 5 02:12:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:12 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-07-05-02.02.html | 02:12 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-07-05-02.02.txt | 02:12 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-07-05-02.02.log.html | 02:12 |
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moshele | #startmeeting sriov | 13:01 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 5 13:01:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:01 |
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moshele | hi everyone | 13:01 |
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lennyb | hi | 13:01 |
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lbeliveau | hello | 13:02 |
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skramaja | hi | 13:02 |
saneax | o/ | 13:02 |
moshele | #topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI | 13:02 |
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moshele | so lennyb is working on the multi node CI for SR-IOV | 13:03 |
lennyb | we have a multinode CI job and found some bugs in tempest #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335447/ | 13:03 |
moshele | yes, and also we need to write tests for migration and migration revert | 13:04 |
moshele | lennyb is starting to write the migration test | 13:04 |
lennyb | yeap, working on it | 13:04 |
lbeliveau | I can help writing more tests | 13:04 |
moshele | yes you can work on the migration revert test | 13:05 |
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moshele | lbeliveau: we will see how to split the tests after the first one will work :) | 13:06 |
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lbeliveau | moshele: sure, I need to fix my multi-node devstack anyway | 13:06 |
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moshele | once we have migration test is working I will send the ML status update and request for commenting in nova | 13:07 |
lbeliveau | cool | 13:07 |
moshele | I will target it for next week | 13:07 |
moshele | #topic Bug Fixes | 13:08 |
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moshele | lbeliveau: can you update on the migration patches? | 13:08 |
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lbeliveau | migration and revert migration with SR-IOV are working | 13:09 |
lbeliveau | tricky part was to fix all those race conditions | 13:09 |
moshele | I will try to test it as well | 13:09 |
moshele | can you fix the pep8 on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326174/ | 13:10 |
lbeliveau | moshele: this patch is still not getting results from Mellanox CI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573 | 13:10 |
lbeliveau | moshele: will do | 13:10 |
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moshele | lannyb can you check why we don't vote | 13:10 |
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moshele | lennyb ^ | 13:11 |
lennyb | ok | 13:11 |
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moshele | so we first try to merge the pci: Update binding:profile for SR-IOV ports - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573/21 and Allocate PCI devices on migration: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328983/4 | 13:12 |
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moshele | with just migration test in tempest and after that we will try to merge the revert patch | 13:12 |
lbeliveau | ok | 13:12 |
moshele | anything else on bug? | 13:13 |
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lbeliveau | not for me | 13:13 |
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moshele | #topic Specs for review | 13:13 |
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moshele | I don't have any update regarding SR-IOV spect | 13:14 |
moshele | anyone have spec he want to raise here? | 13:15 |
moshele | or to talk about other topics? | 13:16 |
moshele | so I end the end the meeting ? | 13:17 |
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moshele | s/end/can | 13:17 |
lbeliveau | I'm good for today | 13:17 |
moshele | so let focus on the migration and improving CI for now :) | 13:18 |
saneax | thanks for the updates on migration | 13:18 |
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saneax | we are looking forward for the functionality | 13:19 |
lbeliveau | great ! | 13:19 |
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moshele | yes | 13:19 |
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moshele | I think the migration patches will fix also macvtap port and physical-direct port migration, but we need to test it | 13:21 |
lbeliveau | yes | 13:21 |
moshele | we test only with direct port at the moment | 13:21 |
moshele | I think we are done here so thanks for joining | 13:22 |
lbeliveau | thanks | 13:22 |
lbeliveau | bye guys | 13:22 |
moshele | #endmeeting | 13:22 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 5 13:22:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:22 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-07-05-13.01.html | 13:22 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-07-05-13.01.txt | 13:22 |
saneax | bye folks | 13:22 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-07-05-13.01.log.html | 13:22 |
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shardy | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 5 14:00:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
shardy | #topic rollcall | 14:00 |
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saneax | o/ | 14:00 |
EmilienM | o/ | 14:00 |
shardy | Hi all, who's around? | 14:00 |
rhallisey | hi | 14:00 |
skramaja | hello | 14:00 |
dprince | hello | 14:00 |
beagles | o/ | 14:00 |
ccamacho | Hello guys!!! | 14:01 |
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thrash | o/ | 14:01 |
shardy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 14:01 |
derekh | o/ | 14:01 |
trown | o/ | 14:02 |
shardy | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
shardy | * one off agenda items | 14:02 |
shardy | * bugs | 14:02 |
shardy | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:02 |
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shardy | * CI | 14:02 |
shardy | * Specs | 14:02 |
shardy | * open discussion | 14:02 |
shardy | Does anyone have anything to add re one-off items? | 14:02 |
shardy | I see one re the UI network diagram, anything else? | 14:02 |
panda | o/ (late rollcall) | 14:04 |
shardy | #topic one-off agenda items | 14:04 |
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shardy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo-ui/+spec/network-diagram | 14:04 |
shardy | honza: Hi! | 14:04 |
shardy | So apologies, I saw the openstack-dev thread on this but have not yet replied | 14:04 |
shardy | the feature looks good, I'm just wondering what additional interfaces it may need | 14:05 |
marios | o/ /me late | 14:05 |
d0ugal | o/ | 14:05 |
shardy | e.g can you use something like a heat stack-preview to get the graph of all network resources? | 14:05 |
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shardy | IMHO you should definitely avoid parsing the templates directly as that will probably be fragile, and duplicate stuff inside heat | 14:05 |
shardy | Any other comments or questions on the BP? | 14:05 |
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shardy | A spec would probably be a good idea, but that probably shouldn't prevent you starting the implementation | 14:07 |
shardy | the main risk I see in the BP description is "parse them from YAML" | 14:07 |
shardy | as mentioned, I don't think we should do that | 14:07 |
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saneax | will it be encompassing the provider network as well, the ones set by os-net-config? | 14:08 |
shardy | saneax: good question - seems like we'd want it to support visualizing and validation both the physical and overlay network configuration | 14:09 |
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shardy | Since honza doesn't appear to be around, lets take this the the existing openstack-dev thread | 14:10 |
shardy | #topic bugs | 14:10 |
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dprince | shardy: sounds good | 14:10 |
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shardy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 14:11 |
honza | shardy: sorry, late | 14:11 |
shardy | honza: np, let's catch up in #tripleo after and/or on the ML | 14:11 |
honza | shardy: ok, thanks | 14:11 |
shardy | overall the BP looks good, but there's some details we should work out re parsing the templates | 14:11 |
shardy | Does anyone have any specific bugs to discuss this week? | 14:12 |
honza | shardy: dprince: yaml parsing is to be done via heat to avoid duplication of efforts (sorry that wasn't clear) | 14:12 |
shardy | things have been going better with CI this week, but there's still some issues with upgrades job both on master and stable branches | 14:12 |
shardy | some of that seems to be memory and/or walltime related | 14:13 |
sshnaidm | shardy, filed a but for upgrades: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1599048 | 14:13 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1599048 in tripleo "CI upgrades job fail because of memory shortage" [High,New] | 14:13 |
sshnaidm | shardy, but will look at this after ci move | 14:13 |
sshnaidm | (next week) | 14:14 |
derekh | shardy sshnaidm so the upgrades job now doesn't exist, until we get rh1 back doing something | 14:14 |
shardy | derekh: hehe, that's one way to fix the problem ;) | 14:15 |
derekh | shardy: yup, unfortunatly we could only run a subset of jobs to keep us ticking over | 14:15 |
shardy | derekh: cool, what's the timeline for bringing the rh1 capacity back online? | 14:15 |
dprince | derekh: could we fit in a periodic upgrade job to at least monitor it? | 14:16 |
dprince | derekh: just an idea... | 14:16 |
derekh | I've added the upgrades jobs as an experimental job on the tripleo-ci repo, but that wont work unless we add multinics to the OVB envs | 14:16 |
shardy | so that means we've got no coverage of net-iso now too? | 14:16 |
dprince | sounds like it is time to land a bunch of code :) ! | 14:17 |
shardy | lol | 14:17 |
shardy | #topic CI | 14:17 |
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derekh | dprince: yup, I think I did add it as a periodic job | 14:17 |
shardy | since we're talking CI, let's just do the CI topic now :) | 14:17 |
derekh | dprince: but we'll need multi nics to for it to pass | 14:17 |
dprince | derekh: okay, so perhaps just a report, or we monitor that manually each day... | 14:17 |
* derekh had something prepared | 14:17 | |
derekh | All our jobs are now running on rh1, this is a subset of jobs but hopefully we'll only be in this situation for a short period | 14:17 |
derekh | Most of the details on the move are here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/098616.html | 14:17 |
derekh | If the jobs on rh2 go well, I think the main quiestion we need to answer is, should we redploy rh1 as it was or instead switch to OVB | 14:17 |
derekh | Some of the pros/cons I've put in that email, so maybe we should discuss it there | 14:17 |
derekh | On rh2 we have two problems currently | 14:17 |
derekh | 1. libery and mitaka jobs were failing because the sudoers file on the image used contained quotes and instack undercloud didn't allow for that | 14:17 |
derekh | this patch fixes the problem https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336470/ | 14:17 |
derekh | but on liberty there seem to be a seperate problem, python is failing with a seg fault | 14:17 |
derekh | http://logs.openstack.org/70/336470/1/check-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-ha/816d049/console.html#_2016-07-04_16_14_34_270127 | 14:17 |
derekh | not sure why yet | 14:18 |
derekh | 2. The failure rate of the HA job is a little highter then it was on rh2, this is what I'm trying to reproduce at the moment | 14:18 |
derekh | the first line is wronge, all jobs are now on rh2... | 14:18 |
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shardy | derekh: thanks for the update - so can we make the call re OVB when we've run the new rh2 CI for a little longer? | 14:19 |
derekh | the last line is wrong also, s/rh2/rh1/ | 14:19 |
dprince | derekh: I will catch up on the list too, but unless RH1 comes up without much work I'm leaning towards a rebuild | 14:19 |
shardy | e.g when will rh1 be either rebuilt or brought back online? | 14:19 |
dprince | we are long overdue... I hate having to context switch back to Nova BM and tripleo-image-lements to maintain that cloud | 14:20 |
derekh | shardy: yup, I think that would be best, but I'm leaning in the direction of OVB aswell | 14:20 |
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shardy | Yeah, provided the OVB env is working smoothly it seems like it'd be good to standardize on that | 14:20 |
derekh | shardy: we should have the HW available to us again on thursday | 14:20 |
shardy | derekh: Ok, cool, not a huge outage then | 14:20 |
derekh | shardy: after that it depends on what problems we hit, there could be none or many | 14:20 |
dprince | shardy: available doesn't mean anything is working :) | 14:21 |
dprince | fingers crossed though | 14:21 |
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shardy | dprince: Yeah, but at that point we can make the call re OVB or not ;) | 14:21 |
derekh | yup, what dprince said | 14:21 |
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shardy | until the hardware is moved, we can keep deliberating and looking at how things are with rh2 :) | 14:21 |
EmilienM | do we need refrain ourselves to merge some kind of patches (eg: net iso)? | 14:21 |
shardy | EmilienM: I think we'll have to rely on local testing for things that look risky from a CI coverage perspective | 14:22 |
dprince | EmilienM: without local testing I'd say lets be careful | 14:22 |
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shardy | +1 | 14:22 |
EmilienM | good to know | 14:22 |
dprince | I don't think we need to make a hard rule about not merging things though | 14:22 |
shardy | Ok, anything else we need to discuss re CI? | 14:23 |
panda | onboarding for new workforce ? | 14:23 |
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shardy | panda: Ah yeah, I never got around to the ML thread re mentoring, I'll do it today | 14:24 |
shardy | sorry, busy week | 14:24 |
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panda | I will need some directions on where to start and what are the initial expectation | 14:24 |
shardy | thanks for the reminder | 14:24 |
panda | shardy: ok, thanks. | 14:24 |
derekh | I'll also create an accound on rh2 with some quota for people looking to reproduce ci and put togeth some instructions | 14:25 |
shardy | derekh: +1 that sounds good | 14:25 |
EmilienM | https://goo.gl/VpIZPJ <- CI bugs | 14:25 |
saneax | derekh, +1 | 14:25 |
shardy | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:25 |
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shardy | So, it's only a week until newton-2 | 14:25 |
shardy | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-2 | 14:26 |
shardy | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 14:26 |
EmilienM | shardy: sorry, still on CI | 14:26 |
shardy | I'm starting to get worried, because although we're making good progress, we've not landed any blueprints yet | 14:26 |
EmilienM | shardy: we need to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336130/ | 14:26 |
shardy | same as n-1 | 14:26 |
EmilienM | shardy: mgould has some patches waiting on liberty and he's waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336130/ | 14:26 |
shardy | I think we're already pushing hard on composable-services, but can folks please help by prioritizing reviews to things on that n-2 launchpad list (bugs and BPs) | 14:27 |
marios | shardy: for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/overcloud-upgrades-workflow-mitaka-to-newton - i've been pulled into some mitaka related upgrades work atm... so that may slip. biggest issue there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1596950 | 14:27 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1596950 in tripleo "undercloud upgrade from stable/mitaka to latest hangs - possibly for swift services yet tbd" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Marios Andreou (marios-b) | 14:27 |
shardy | I'm going to start deferring things this week, but it'd be super-great if I don't have to defer multiple features.. | 14:27 |
shardy | marios: ack, please retarget to n-3 then, and link the related bugs on the whiteboard | 14:28 |
shardy | if it's blocked by that bug, you can set the status to blocked | 14:28 |
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marios | shardy: ack | 14:28 |
shardy | EmilienM: thanks, I saw that yesterday, good to see the lint issues are now fixed | 14:29 |
EmilienM | shardy: still need +1 on liberty, mitaka is fixed | 14:29 |
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shardy | I think we should merge it, the upgrades job isn't failing because of the gemfile change | 14:30 |
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EmilienM | right | 14:30 |
shardy | done ;) | 14:31 |
EmilienM | shardy: the upgrade job is broken on liberty since we switched to ipv6 | 14:31 |
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shardy | Yeah, it'd be good to work out which patches we need to fix that | 14:31 |
shardy | thanks for investigating and figuring out the root-cause | 14:31 |
EmilienM | right, I spent time on it but I could not find time to work on it more | 14:31 |
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shardy | np, lets revisit after n-2 has passed | 14:31 |
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shardy | Does anyone else have updates or questions around releases or backports? | 14:32 |
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shardy | #topic Specs | 14:33 |
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shardy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:33 |
EmilienM | shardy: for the release, I can take care of it next Monday if you want | 14:33 |
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shardy | We need further review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313872/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313871/ | 14:34 |
shardy | beagles: ^^ any chance you can revisit those? | 14:34 |
shardy | it'd be good to land them soon, as we're getting late in the cycle | 14:34 |
shardy | dsneddon has an interesting one re lldp too | 14:34 |
shardy | and we need to figure out the plan re composable upgrades | 14:35 |
karthiks | shadower, we are working on SRIOV and DPDK | 14:35 |
shardy | EmilienM: Sure, if you're happy to do that that would be great, thanks! :) | 14:35 |
karthiks | shardy, we are working on SRIOV and DPDK | 14:35 |
EmilienM | will do | 14:35 |
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shardy | karthiks: ack - I've approved the blueprints, so it'd be good to get those specs landed too | 14:36 |
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skramaja | shardy, we are almost completed with SRIOV changes.. final puppet changes in progres.. | 14:36 |
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skramaja | for the dpdk, we are working on the os-net-config and the puppet changes for dpdk.. | 14:36 |
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marios | shardy: ack on the composable upgrades, though as we discussed previously, an upgrade newton to ocata thing. by work out you mean still tbd/discuss etc right or did i miss a thread again | 14:37 |
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shardy | skramaja: good to know, I see some patches referenced from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/tripleo-sriov | 14:37 |
shardy | thanks for the update | 14:37 |
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skramaja | shardy, is there anything we have to do on the specs to push the specs | 14:37 |
marios | shardy: also hapy to work/help on a spec once we're there... though jistr has one up already that we should update once we decide | 14:37 |
shardy | marios: Yeah, I was just mentioning it as it's an outstanding spec | 14:37 |
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shardy | marios: we've got a more urgent "ensure minor updates work with composable services" problem for Newton | 14:38 |
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shardy | but the major upgrade of composable services can potentially slip to ocata, but I'd like to get a clear idea of how we'll do it asap | 14:38 |
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marios | shardy: ack thanks | 14:38 |
shardy | been planning some prototyping to help with that, but composable roles/services have taken priority | 14:38 |
dprince | shardy: any links to your prototypes? | 14:39 |
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* dprince is interested in prototyping this too | 14:39 | |
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shardy | dprince: No, I've not done them yet, just looked at a few possible approaches | 14:39 |
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shardy | hoping to get to that after we're past n2 next week | 14:39 |
dprince | shardy: cool. thanks | 14:39 |
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EmilienM | I have one remark about composable services | 14:40 |
shardy | dprince: cool, we can sync up and perhaps work on it together | 14:40 |
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EmilienM | I would like to slow down a bit the effort in new composable services (mistral, zaqar, etc) and help me (and others) to finish core services (neutron, ceilometer, etc) | 14:40 |
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EmilienM | we still have some bits to move | 14:41 |
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EmilienM | and if we want to make it for newton, we need more hands | 14:41 |
EmilienM | mistral/zaqar/etc can wait IMHO | 14:41 |
dprince | EmilienM: for new services though there shouldn't be any conflicts right? | 14:41 |
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EmilienM | I'm not talking about conflict | 14:41 |
dprince | EmilienM: besides the CI resource drain, what are your concerns? | 14:41 |
EmilienM | ok let me put this way: I need help to finish ceilometer / nova / neutron bits | 14:42 |
marios | EmilienM: :( i'd really rather not delay manila further though i can appreciate your concern for the time left to get all thigns done (core) | 14:42 |
dprince | EmilienM: from my POV one of the biggest benefits of composability is that we can add new services without concern for impacting the core | 14:42 |
EmilienM | I'm dealing with multiple blockers in same time, I would need some help | 14:42 |
dprince | EmilienM: ack, I agree with the priorities FWIW | 14:43 |
EmilienM | dprince: *again* it's not a problem of impacting the core | 14:43 |
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EmilienM | it's a problem of "enough people moving core bits) | 14:43 |
shardy | we should prioritize those services we know folks want to scale independently of the controller | 14:43 |
dprince | EmilienM: but I would like to not discourage others who are chipping away at new services | 14:43 |
shardy | e.g of those which are still part of the monolithic controller definition | 14:43 |
EmilienM | I'm not discouraging people, I'm asking for help here | 14:43 |
dprince | EmilienM: gotcha | 14:43 |
EmilienM | cool | 14:43 |
EmilienM | some people are waiting for this thing to deploy AIO etc | 14:44 |
shardy | Yeah, there's a balance here, stuff like manila have been around for ages so we shouldn't block that, but absolutely we need more help with reviews/patches for the core services | 14:44 |
EmilienM | it's currently not possible because we need to finish nova / neutron (very close but still not finished) | 14:45 |
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slagle | fwiw, i have deployed aio, w/o pacemaker | 14:45 |
shardy | EmilienM: perhaps we should break down the remaining services and raise bugs for those not yet decomposed | 14:45 |
EmilienM | right, but with pacemaker we still have issues (I'm on it) | 14:45 |
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slagle | EmilienM: i'm testing your other 2 patches now | 14:45 |
shardy | then we could land the composable services BP, which is really about the new architecture, and have a clearer view wrt progress on remaining/new services | 14:46 |
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shardy | with the benefit of hindsight, a single BP and an etherpad hasn't been the best way to track this (huge) chunk of work | 14:46 |
jrist | did it seem huge in foresight? :) | 14:46 |
EmilienM | right, it was a lot of work | 14:46 |
shardy | jrist: I think we knew it was a lot of work, but tracking it could have been done in a more granular way | 14:47 |
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ccamacho | guys quick question, is the etherpad fully updated? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-composable-services | 14:47 |
EmilienM | ccamacho: I'm trying to update it every day | 14:47 |
dprince | shardy: we could have just forked t-h-t and then we'd be done by now already :) | 14:48 |
EmilienM | ccamacho: I check all patches every day and update status | 14:48 |
ccamacho | EmilienM me to, but when I hit things not updated, ack | 14:48 |
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shardy | dprince: maybe, but this approach has allowed us to prove each step via CI, which we would have lost with the forking approach I guess | 14:48 |
shardy | progress lately has been very good, since CI has been more stable :) | 14:49 |
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shardy | #topic open discussion | 14:49 |
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shardy | Anyone have any topics to discuss in our final 10mins? | 14:50 |
shardy | slagle: the AIO work sounds interesting, care to share any details on that? | 14:50 |
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shardy | Evidently not ;) | 14:52 |
shardy | Ok, well if there's nothing else lets finish early, thanks everyone! | 14:52 |
dprince | shardy: thanks | 14:52 |
shardy | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 5 14:52:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-07-05-14.00.html | 14:52 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-07-05-14.00.txt | 14:52 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-07-05-14.00.log.html | 14:52 |
EmilienM | shardy: thx | 14:52 |
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ccamacho | Thanks! | 14:55 |
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tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:08 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 5 15:08:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:08 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:08 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:08 |
tmorin | hi everyone, doude, michchap, pcarver, timirnich, steve_ruan | 15:09 |
steve_ruan | hi | 15:09 |
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tmorin | wimdeclerq told me he would not attend | 15:10 |
tmorin | I think this will be a short meeting | 15:10 |
doude | hi | 15:10 |
tmorin | hi | 15:10 |
tmorin | #topic work in progress | 15:10 |
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tmorin | a few things | 15:10 |
tmorin | the horizon tenant GUI work is in progress | 15:11 |
tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335091/ | 15:11 |
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tmorin | not much more to say about it | 15:11 |
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tmorin | work is in progress as well to fix a bug happening with the opencontrail driver | 15:12 |
tmorin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1596962 | 15:12 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1596962 in networking-bgpvpn "opencontrail driver issue with a particular network association" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Thomas Monguillon (thomas-monguillon) | 15:12 |
tmorin | different people have hit this bug | 15:12 |
tmorin | the fix is simple and I'll merge it soon | 15:12 |
tmorin | except that our unit test job is currently broken (let's discuss this later) | 15:13 |
tmorin | the VNI change is in progress (steve_ruan) | 15:13 |
tmorin | we still need to reflect in the API doc which additional constraints we need to put on associations to avoid conflicts between BGPVPN VNIs and VNIs used by Neutron L2/VXLAN | 15:14 |
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tmorin | steve_ruan: I have seen your last comment, but I still need to think a bit more what we need to specify for BGPVPN VNIs and Router associations | 15:15 |
steve_ruan | yes, the constraints need more consideration | 15:15 |
steve_ruan | thanks | 15:15 |
tmorin | #topic open discussion | 15:16 |
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tmorin | do we have anything more to discuss today ? | 15:16 |
tmorin | #undo | 15:16 |
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steve_ruan | my college find another bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1599055 | 15:16 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1599055 in networking-bgpvpn "tox unit test failed without testresources package" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Henry Dong (henry-dong) | 15:16 |
tmorin | ah yes, of course | 15:16 |
tmorin | our gate is broken | 15:16 |
steve_ruan | it blocked the tox | 15:16 |
tmorin | I had a look at is as well | 15:17 |
tmorin | I don't get where the issue is | 15:17 |
steve_ruan | it's very strange that someone remove "testresources>=0.2.4" | 15:17 |
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steve_ruan | from test_requirement | 15:17 |
tmorin | where/when was it removed ? | 15:18 |
steve_ruan | need dig out | 15:18 |
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tmorin | I would have expected testresources to be installed in the test venv because neutron is installed there, but maybe only neutron/requirements.txt deps are installed | 15:19 |
tmorin | identifying the change that caused the failure would be very useful | 15:21 |
tmorin | have you discussed with net-sfc folks about that yet ? | 15:21 |
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steve_ruan | sorry, the root cause is not that someone change test_requirement.text | 15:23 |
steve_ruan | but add testresource can fix it | 15:23 |
steve_ruan | I found since March 2016, test_requirement.text is not changed | 15:24 |
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regXboi | someone rang? | 15:25 |
tmorin | :) | 15:26 |
tmorin | cross IRC room discussion | 15:26 |
regXboi | the problem with missing testresources is that you need to include it in test-requirements.txt | 15:27 |
tmorin | steve_ruan: feel free to read #openstack-neutron logs | 15:27 |
regXboi | but... that's not likely going to be enough | 15:27 |
tmorin | regXboi: did you identify why it wasn't necessary before ? | 15:27 |
regXboi | tmorin: I wasn't in a search mode, I was in a fix mode | 15:28 |
tmorin | .. or more generally why much more is now needed | 15:28 |
tmorin | regXboi: ok | 15:28 |
regXboi | oh well *that* I know | 15:29 |
regXboi | first, the testresources is an update from openstack bot | 15:29 |
regXboi | but I suspect neutron was forking and changed | 15:29 |
regXboi | but as far as the OVS stuff is concerned, neutron switched to the native ovs interface | 15:29 |
regXboi | and looking at neutron-vpnaas, it's not prepared for that change | 15:29 |
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regXboi | so that's where I'd look next | 15:30 |
tmorin | test-requirements has included testresources since January, so this is not recent, right ? | 15:30 |
regXboi | well, for neutron it has, neutron-vpnaas is another matter - I can't speak to networking-sfc | 15:31 |
regXboi | er wait I said that wrong (too many projects) | 15:31 |
tmorin | regXboi: understood about the ofctl/native switch, it seems to be a likely cause why importing testresources now fails | 15:31 |
regXboi | networking-sfc didn't have it, I can't speak to networking-bgpvpn | 15:31 |
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tmorin | it doesn't have it either | 15:32 |
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regXboi | then I'd add look at adding it and seeing what breaks next | 15:33 |
tmorin | yes | 15:33 |
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regXboi | now i've not dug beyond just adding that | 15:34 |
tmorin | I wanted to know why we now had to include it explicitly, but I think I will just assume that one of the requirements or test-requirements of net-bgpvpn was declaring it as a requirement | 15:34 |
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regXboi | somebody in #openstack-neutron might have a better idea | 15:36 |
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regXboi | as to the chapter and verse of why | 15:36 |
tmorin | yep, let's follow-up there | 15:36 |
tmorin | http://logs.openstack.org/41/337541/1/check/gate-networking-bgpvpn-python27/21135f0/console.html#_2016-07-05_09_39_56_293009 | 15:37 |
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hongbin | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
openstack | hongbin: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 16:00 |
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adrian_otto | hongbin: the bgbvpn meeting has not ended | 16:01 |
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hongbin | It looks they forgot to end the meeting | 16:01 |
strigazi | shardy: ping | 16:01 |
muralia | can you end it yourself? | 16:01 |
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hongbin | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
hongbin | No, doesn't seem to work | 16:02 |
muralia | hmm | 16:02 |
strigazi | I think shardy started it | 16:02 |
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strigazi | I pinged on tripleo | 16:05 |
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hongbin | #startmeeting containers | 16:05 |
openstack | hongbin: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 16:05 |
hongbin | .......... | 16:06 |
derekh | tmorin ^^ the bgpvpn meeting is still running | 16:06 |
adrian_otto | we need to keep trying to end it. | 16:06 |
adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:06 |
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tmorin | wops | 16:06 |
tmorin | #endmeeting | 16:06 |
tmorin | #endmeeting | 16:07 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 5 16:07:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:07 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-07-05-15.08.html | 16:07 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-07-05-15.08.txt | 16:07 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-07-05-15.08.log.html | 16:07 |
tmorin | very sorry | 16:07 |
adrian_otto | there we go. | 16:07 |
hongbin | #startmeeting containers | 16:07 |
adrian_otto | thanks tmorin | 16:07 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 5 16:07:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:07 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:07 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:07 |
hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-07-05_1600_UTC Today's agenda | 16:07 |
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hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 16:07 |
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Drago | o/ | 16:07 |
muralia | murali allada | 16:07 |
tcammann | o/ | 16:07 |
adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:07 |
dane_leblanc | o/ | 16:07 |
eghobo | o/ | 16:07 |
rpothier | o/ | 16:07 |
rochapor1o | Ricardo Rocha | 16:07 |
strigazi | Spyros Trigazis | 16:08 |
hongbin | Thanks for joining the meeting Drago muralia tcammann adrian_otto dane_leblanc eghobo rpothier rochapor1o strigazi | 16:08 |
hongbin | #topic Announcements | 16:08 |
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hongbin | I will be on travel next week so unable to chair the next meeting. Looking for a temp chair. | 16:08 |
hongbin | Any volunteer? | 16:08 |
adrian_otto | o/ | 16:08 |
hongbin | adrian_otto: you can chair the next meeting? | 16:09 |
adrian_otto | yes | 16:09 |
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hongbin | adrian_otto: thanks | 16:09 |
adrian_otto | np. | 16:09 |
hongbin | #topic Review Action Items | 16:09 |
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hongbin | 1. hongbin create a wiki session to report a list of Magnum users (DONE) | 16:09 |
hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum#Users | 16:09 |
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hongbin | It looks CERN is the only user | 16:09 |
hongbin | For others, we would like to know if you are using Magnum | 16:10 |
hongbin | Just write your name and oragnazation there if you like. | 16:10 |
hongbin | #topic Essential Blueprints Review | 16:10 |
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hongbin | 1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi) | 16:11 |
hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support | 16:11 |
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strigazi | Not much since last week, we are still working on the gate tests. | 16:11 |
hongbin | strigazi: any update? | 16:11 |
strigazi | Only the patch for fixed networks was merged | 16:12 |
strigazi | that's it | 16:12 |
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hongbin | strigazi: thanks | 16:13 |
hongbin | Any question for strigazi ? | 16:13 |
hongbin | 2. Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango) | 16:13 |
hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide | 16:13 |
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hongbin | Ton is on vacation. I update you on behalf of him. | 16:13 |
hongbin | (Ton) The session on bay driver and baymodel were merged. | 16:14 |
hongbin | (Ton) The new section on bay is about 75% written | 16:14 |
hongbin | (Ton) I will finish after I return. | 16:14 |
hongbin | That is it from him | 16:14 |
hongbin | Question? | 16:14 |
hongbin | 3. COE Bay Drivers (jamie_h, muralia) | 16:15 |
hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-drivers | 16:15 |
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muralia | Thanks strigazi for updating the swarm driver patch while I was out yesterday. | 16:15 |
muralia | we seem to be really close to getting all the tests passing. | 16:15 |
muralia | there might be an issue with removing the hardcoded path to the swarm templates right now. | 16:16 |
muralia | looking into that. but over all, we are really close to getting it done. | 16:16 |
muralia | I'll switch focus to the kubneters drivers once everything looks fine with the swarm driver. | 16:16 |
muralia | thats all for me | 16:17 |
hongbin | muralia: Thanks for teh update | 16:17 |
strigazi | I have two patches as WIP on that bp, please ignore them. | 16:17 |
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muralia | can you abandon them strigazi? | 16:17 |
muralia | the current patch seems to be the right way to go. | 16:17 |
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strigazi | Yes, I leave them for a few days if I need to run something on the gate. They helped me a little | 16:18 |
muralia | sure | 16:19 |
mkrai | Hi everyone! I am sorry for being late | 16:19 |
hongbin | mkrai: np | 16:19 |
hongbin | Any comment for the bay driver BP? | 16:19 |
hongbin | 4. Create a magnum installation guide (strigazi) | 16:20 |
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hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-installation-guide | 16:20 |
hongbin | strigazi: ^^ | 16:20 |
strigazi | The guide for suse is merged, and I'm still trying to package debian | 16:20 |
strigazi | I'll also add a "launch an instance" section | 16:21 |
strigazi | that's all | 16:21 |
hongbin | What is "launch an instance" section for? | 16:21 |
strigazi | like so : http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-ubuntu/launch-instance-heat.html | 16:22 |
strigazi | It's part of the current install guide to actually test that a simple example work after deployment | 16:22 |
hongbin | OK. It looks that section is for launching a bay | 16:22 |
strigazi | yes | 16:22 |
hongbin | I see | 16:22 |
hongbin | Any other comment for the installation guide BP? | 16:23 |
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strigazi | to clarify | 16:23 |
strigazi | debian packages also means ubuntu packages | 16:23 |
strigazi | they are the same for magnum | 16:23 |
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hongbin | get that | 16:24 |
hongbin | Any problem for packaging the debian packages? | 16:24 |
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strigazi | Many, but I'm getting closer :) | 16:25 |
hongbin | strigazi: It looks the debian part is particular challenging? | 16:25 |
hongbin | OK. Sounds good | 16:25 |
hongbin | #topic Magnum UI Subteam Update (bradjones) | 16:25 |
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hongbin | bradjones: there? | 16:25 |
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* hongbin didn't receive any update from magnum-ui so far | 16:26 | |
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hongbin | It looks Brad is not there. Let's skip this session | 16:26 |
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hongbin | #topic Kuryr Integration Update (tango) | 16:27 |
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hongbin | (Ton) I did attend the Kuryr meeting on Monday. | 16:27 |
hongbin | (Ton) They have started the code refactoring into 3 repos: kuryr-lib, kuryr-libnetwork, kuryr-kubernetes. | 16:27 |
hongbin | (Ton) I will use the stable fork for our development until the new repos are stable. | 16:27 |
hongbin | That's it | 16:27 |
hongbin | Comment? | 16:27 |
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hongbin | #topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:28 |
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hongbin | 1. Create a Magnum team account in Docker Hub for hosting official images (strigazi) | 16:28 |
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strigazi | There is one, but we don't know who owns it | 16:28 |
strigazi | https://hub.docker.com/r/openstackmagnum/ | 16:28 |
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hongbin | strigazi: maybe it help to describe the rational to create a magnum repo in Docker Hub? | 16:29 |
strigazi | I pushed a change for cinder swam integration with rexray deploying it | 16:29 |
strigazi | in a container | 16:29 |
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strigazi | put we need a docker image for that. I thought that a good option is to have an official magnum repo for that | 16:30 |
strigazi | this is the change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336594/ | 16:30 |
strigazi | I don't see another option since we use atomic | 16:31 |
strigazi | we can't install anything on it | 16:31 |
hongbin | strigazi: How large is the image? | 16:31 |
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strigazi | I think 200mb, but i'm not sure let me check | 16:32 |
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hongbin | Looks quite large | 16:32 |
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strigazi | 954 | 16:32 |
strigazi | https://hub.docker.com/r/strigazi/docker-rexray/builds/bh2bmxvfvuqe2mzpdkrzuwf/ | 16:32 |
hongbin | 954 mb ?! | 16:32 |
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strigazi | I guess 164.6mb | 16:33 |
rochapor1o | it's layered on fedora:23, if we have a common base image (be it fedora:23 or not) the actual rexray part would be much smaller | 16:33 |
hongbin | ok | 16:33 |
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muralia | https://hub.docker.com/r/strigazi/docker-rexray/tags/ | 16:34 |
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muralia | 216 mb | 16:34 |
hongbin | My worry is the gate won't have enough time to pull it down | 16:34 |
strigazi | this size is with fedora:23 | 16:34 |
hongbin | Unless there is a way to build the image into the OS | 16:34 |
strigazi | to have it in the image? | 16:35 |
hongbin | maybe | 16:35 |
muralia | do we bake in any other image right now? | 16:35 |
muralia | or will this be the first? | 16:35 |
strigazi | if we do that we can add rexray directly | 16:35 |
adrian_otto | the openstack-infra team has expressed willingness to have a custom image for us | 16:35 |
strigazi | adrian_otto: a custom fedora-atomic? | 16:36 |
adrian_otto | because if they do that, we end up using less time for our gate tests, and that's good for the other projects. | 16:36 |
adrian_otto | strigazi: yes | 16:36 |
strigazi | ok | 16:36 |
rochapor1o | how will we manage updates? everything we put in the image itself will require a new image being pushed on every security update (vs a docker pull on the nodes) | 16:36 |
strigazi | that means we maintain the rexray package in a way | 16:37 |
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muralia | rochaporlo: good point. lets try to reduce the size of the docker image and see if that works. | 16:37 |
rochapor1o | the alternative is a ostree rebase, but that requires a node reboot and it's complicated to manage | 16:38 |
strigazi | I'll try to modify the image | 16:38 |
hongbin | I guess it is very hard to reduce the size, unless we switch to fedora 23 | 16:38 |
rochapor1o | alpine? | 16:38 |
strigazi | Even with the a smaller image. Where would that image live? | 16:39 |
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muralia | we should send a ML email to find out who created the docker hub account | 16:39 |
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hongbin | strigazi: Could we build the docker image in the post-devstack hook? | 16:39 |
strigazi | It will down load the fedora:23 image anyway | 16:40 |
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hongbin | OK. Push the discussion in ML? | 16:41 |
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adrian_otto | what if we had a local mirror (caching reverse proxy) of the docker hub in each of the clouds that openstack-infra exists, and enter host entries into the local /etc/hosts files to use that for the hub dns names | 16:41 |
adrian_otto | that would speed up the load of the dociker image considerably in the general case, and allow for them to be updated without our participation | 16:41 |
hongbin | If the infra team agree, this could be a solution | 16:43 |
strigazi | and in which account we'll host the image? | 16:43 |
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adrian_otto | is there one the upstream owns? | 16:44 |
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adrian_otto | or is this magnum specific? | 16:44 |
strigazi | magnum specific | 16:44 |
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adrian_otto | then we can put a tarball of the image on tarballs.openstack.org | 16:44 |
strigazi | I asked about an official | 16:44 |
adrian_otto | and just load it from that | 16:44 |
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adrian_otto | leverage the existing mirror infrastructure | 16:45 |
strigazi | put the docker image in a tarball? | 16:45 |
adrian_otto | yes | 16:45 |
adrian_otto | you can create one with docker export | 16:45 |
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adrian_otto | and you re-create it with docker import | 16:45 |
hongbin | OK, then we can run docker build as part of the gate, then upload it to tarballs.openstack.org | 16:46 |
rochapor1o | would we use that for the installation on production sites? | 16:46 |
strigazi | ok, I'll check if I can upload it there | 16:46 |
adrian_otto | that should work | 16:46 |
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adrian_otto | rochapor1o: we should have a variable for the source of this | 16:46 |
adrian_otto | that way each cloud operator can select the location that makes the most sense for them. | 16:46 |
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rochapor1o | that sounds good | 16:47 |
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hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 16:47 |
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strigazi | So we won't have a magnum account on docker hub | 16:47 |
adrian_otto | that's a future option | 16:48 |
hongbin | strigazi: I guess it is unnecessary, if we can run docker build instead | 16:48 |
strigazi | ok | 16:48 |
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strigazi | bay drivers passed the gate | 16:48 |
adrian_otto | whoot | 16:48 |
muralia | yes! | 16:48 |
hongbin | awesome | 16:49 |
strigazi | it's only swarm but it's progress | 16:49 |
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hongbin | Drago: I have a question for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333383/9/magnum/templates/kubernetes/fragments/api_gateway_switcher_kubemaster.yaml | 16:50 |
hongbin | Drago: It looks we implemented a custom Heat resource for mixing the inputs to outputs | 16:51 |
hongbin | Drago: Would it possible to contribute this resource to Heat? | 16:51 |
hongbin | That is OS::HEAT::ApiGateWaySwitcher instead of Magnum::ApiGatewaySwitcher | 16:52 |
Drago | Hm, interesting idea | 16:53 |
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Drago | I will have to discuss it on #heat | 16:53 |
hongbin | Drago: thx | 16:53 |
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hongbin | Anything else to discuss? | 16:54 |
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hongbin | If no, I will close the meeting a little earlier | 16:55 |
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hongbin | All, thanks for joining the meeting. The next meeting will be chaired by adrian_otto at the same time next week | 16:56 |
adrian_otto | fine with me | 16:56 |
hongbin | #endmeeting | 16:56 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 5 16:56:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-07-05-16.07.html | 16:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-07-05-16.07.txt | 16:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-07-05-16.07.log.html | 16:56 |
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kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 5 17:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:00 |
kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:00 |
oshykhkerimov | o/ | 17:00 |
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zhurong | 0/ | 17:00 |
kzaitsev_mb | let's see who's today for the meeting | 17:00 |
tlashchova | o/ | 17:01 |
oshykhkerimov | \o/ | 17:01 |
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StanLagun | o/ | 17:02 |
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kzaitsev_mb | #topic Action Items Review | 17:04 |
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kzaitsev_mb | wow we had quite a few | 17:04 |
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kzaitsev_mb | ok, obviously not checking on Nikolay_St ones — he's on vacation | 17:05 |
kzaitsev_mb | although N2 is right behind the corner, so we'll have to ping him to enable convergence as soon as he gets from vacation | 17:05 |
vakovalchuk | o/ | 17:05 |
vakovalchuk | sorry, was distracted | 17:06 |
kzaitsev_mb | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 17:06 |
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kzaitsev_mb | np vakovalchuk =) | 17:06 |
kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St kzaitsev_mb draft a spec with all the options we have considering swtiching from glance v1 to glance v2 | 17:06 |
kzaitsev_mb | this one | 17:07 |
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kzaitsev_mb | I've started to draft a short etherpad for this | 17:07 |
kzaitsev_mb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-glance-v2 | 17:07 |
kzaitsev_mb | would appreciate comments/thoughts | 17:07 |
kzaitsev_mb | So far forking a bg process seems like the most viable option to me.. | 17:08 |
kzaitsev_mb | kzaitsev_mb file a bp and advertise it in the ML about increasing the coverage | 17:09 |
kzaitsev_mb | did that =) | 17:09 |
kzaitsev_mb | it's pretty short | 17:09 |
kzaitsev_mb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-unit-test-coverage | 17:09 |
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kzaitsev_mb | have yet to advert it on the ML, also our friends at mirantis are about to publish a blogpost about murano and asked about some entry-level task list to include there. This looks just right for the task | 17:10 |
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kzaitsev_mb | And the final item I have is #) kzaitsev_mb clarify with the release-team versioning of milestones and full releases of murano-agent ETA: N2 | 17:10 |
kzaitsev_mb | yep, still have to do that | 17:11 |
kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb clarify with the release-team versioning of milestones and full releases of murano-agent ETA: N2 | 17:11 |
kzaitsev_mb | guess that's all with the AIs from last time | 17:11 |
kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:11 |
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kzaitsev_mb | vakovalchuk: it's that week again =) do we have anything to backport? | 17:12 |
vakovalchuk | kzaitsev_mb: a little, yes | 17:12 |
vakovalchuk | here's the list for today | 17:12 |
vakovalchuk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-stable-backports | 17:13 |
vakovalchuk | I have doubts about the priority of some of them though | 17:13 |
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vakovalchuk | do we need to backport fixes to example plugin? | 17:14 |
kzaitsev_mb | like usual — let's wait a couple of days to see if anyone has any objections before actually backporting the changes | 17:15 |
kzaitsev_mb | vakovalchuk: what was the fix? =) | 17:15 |
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kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332733/1 this one? | 17:16 |
vakovalchuk | kzaitsev_mb: plugin wasn't working at all :) | 17:16 |
vakovalchuk | tlashchova can tell more probably) | 17:16 |
kzaitsev_mb | the versions thing — looks worthy of being backported to me | 17:16 |
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kzaitsev_mb | otherwise the plugins just wont work, yep | 17:17 |
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kzaitsev_mb | thanks vakovalchuk for keeping the list up to date =) | 17:19 |
tlashchova | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332857/ one more fix in plugin | 17:19 |
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kzaitsev_mb | tlashchova: it's in the list of bugs to be backported ;) | 17:20 |
vakovalchuk | tlashchova: it's the last item, yep | 17:20 |
vakovalchuk | in murano | 17:20 |
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kzaitsev_mb | ok. I don't have any news apart from ones I've already mentioned =) | 17:23 |
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kzaitsev_mb | anyone has anything to add/ask? | 17:23 |
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kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336344/ | 17:25 |
kzaitsev_mb | FYI =) | 17:25 |
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kzaitsev_mb | ok if we do not have anything to discuss today — going to end the meeting early — would wait 5 more minutes to see if anyone would want to prevent that =) | 17:28 |
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vakovalchuk | kzaitsev_mb: take a look at this patch plz: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336659/. is Jenkins's -1 crelated to what you've written? | 17:30 |
vakovalchuk | sorry | 17:30 |
vakovalchuk | oh, no, that's right)) | 17:30 |
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vakovalchuk | looks like check-osc-plugins job is the only red one, but it looks like non-voting | 17:31 |
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kzaitsev_mb | vakovalchuk: looks like an issue with requirements to me | 17:32 |
zhurong | gate-python-muranoclient-requirements http://logs.openstack.org/59/336659/6/check/gate-python-muranoclient-requirements/96d8380/ : Incompatible requirement found; see http://docs.openstack.org/developer/requirements/ in 2m 42s | 17:32 |
kzaitsev_mb | exactly ) | 17:33 |
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kzaitsev_mb | I guess we can continue the discussion in #murano, and end the meeting here, since there is not much to discuss =) | 17:36 |
kzaitsev_mb | thanks for coming =) | 17:36 |
kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:36 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 5 17:36:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:36 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-07-05-17.00.html | 17:36 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-07-05-17.00.txt | 17:36 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-07-05-17.00.log.html | 17:36 |
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catherineD|2 | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 5 19:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD|2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
sslypushenko | o/ | 19:00 |
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catherineD|2 | sslypushenko: hello | 19:00 |
pvaneck | o/ | 19:00 |
catherineD|2 | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-07-05 | 19:01 |
catherineD|2 | let's give the other a couple more mins | 19:01 |
andrey-mp | o/ | 19:02 |
sslypushenko | before we start - here the link on RefStaclClient application for AppCatalog https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336656/ | 19:02 |
sslypushenko | Client can be runned | 19:02 |
sslypushenko | in cloud in 2 clicks) | 19:02 |
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andrey-mp | in which cloud? | 19:03 |
andrey-mp | inside/outside? | 19:03 |
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sslypushenko | any OpenStack cloud with Murano support | 19:03 |
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catherineD|2 | sslypushenko: great I will add the link to our agenda so the refstack team can follow | 19:04 |
pvaneck | cool. will try it out | 19:04 |
sslypushenko | hmmm... do you have Openstack with Murano? O_o | 19:05 |
andrey-mp | i'm sorry - i don't know much about Murano... it will run vm with refstack client to test this cloud? | 19:05 |
pvaneck | not currently, but can add murano support | 19:05 |
sslypushenko | anyway, we can move on as soon as we are ready... | 19:06 |
sslypushenko | just a small piece of information to share | 19:06 |
catherineD|2 | sslypushenko: will take a look thx | 19:07 |
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catherineD|2 | I am not very familiar with Murano either ... | 19:07 |
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catherineD|2 | Let's discuss it next week when we each learn about what it does .. we will ask sslypushenko: for more info if needed next week | 19:10 |
pvaneck | yea, i believe that is the gist of it, a vm will be spun up with refstack-client automatically installed | 19:10 |
sslypushenko | catherineD|2: Lucky you)) | 19:10 |
sslypushenko | pvaneck: yeap, it is just vm with refstack-client | 19:10 |
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catherineD|2 | today's agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-07-05 | 19:11 |
catherineD|2 | ready to move on ? | 19:11 |
pvaneck | yep | 19:12 |
catherineD|2 | alright | 19:12 |
catherineD|2 | #topic Test results ownership | 19:12 |
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andrey-mp | catherineD|2 | 19:13 |
andrey-mp | catherineD|2 | 19:13 |
andrey-mp | sorry | 19:13 |
andrey-mp | catherineD|2: Alex told me that his question still doesn't have answers | 19:14 |
catherineD|2 | so we had a meeting last week but we ran out of time ... I will schedule additional meeting this week .. I plan on Thurs 18:00 UTC .. does that work for everyone | 19:14 |
catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: that is why we need additional meeting schedule | 19:14 |
sslypushenko | will work for me | 19:15 |
andrey-mp | catherineD|2: for us is better 17:00 UTC... | 19:15 |
andrey-mp | or 20:00 UTC | 19:15 |
catherineD|2 | sslypushenko: pvaneck: andrey-mp: I need your help to answers Alex's questions too ... so far the conversation is between Alex and I .., I would appreciate your inputs .. | 19:16 |
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catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: noted will try 17:00 UTC or 20:00 UTC | 19:17 |
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sslypushenko | catherineD|2: 20:00 is too late... 17:00 much better | 19:17 |
catherineD|2 | sslypushenko: ok 17:00 UTC on Thurs | 19:18 |
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sslypushenko | yeap +! | 19:18 |
catherineD|2 | meanwhile I really would like additonal inputs on the conversion between Alex and I ... I am sorry for the lengthy conversation but your inputs are important to unlock the deadlock | 19:19 |
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andrey-mp | as I understood Chris promised to get some answers | 19:20 |
catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: I am not sure what I can answer to Alex ... my anser will be the same like what I had answer and to him it is not good enough ... no point to go on .. at this point we need others' input | 19:20 |
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catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: that is why I will schedule addtional meeting | 19:21 |
andrey-mp | Does Chris can attend it? | 19:21 |
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catherineD|2 | I don't know the point is the have Chris and Mark to attend if Thursday is not good for them we will have to schedulte a different time ... their present to the meeting is necessary | 19:22 |
catherineD|2 | ok moving on ? | 19:23 |
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catherineD|2 | #topic Pending reviews | 19:23 |
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catherineD|2 | #topic Disable the Catalog tabs on the UI. ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336739/ ) | 19:23 |
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catherineD|2 | #link Disable the Catalog tabs on the UI. ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336739/ ) | 19:23 |
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catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: did you see pvaneck: 's latest comments ... ? | 19:24 |
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andrey-mp | yeah | 19:24 |
catherineD|2 | it was my mistake | 19:24 |
andrey-mp | we want to introduce these changes when it will ready? | 19:25 |
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catherineD|2 | yea | 19:26 |
catherineD|2 | as soon as we finish what we need to do in feature/vendor branch ... we should merge it before the next summit | 19:26 |
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andrey-mp | ok. do you have a plan what we must implement? | 19:27 |
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pvaneck | product + test association is the last big piece remaining I believe | 19:28 |
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andrey-mp | what about guidelines? what about switch for UI - original version/extended version ? | 19:29 |
catherineD|2 | pvaneck: yea .. and small thing here and there to improve the website (like enable editing , cancel ... _ | 19:29 |
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catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: after test association we will go to guideline ... | 19:29 |
andrey-mp | last change from Chris is about registering guidelines (by Foundation and by users)... | 19:29 |
catherineD|2 | with guideline we will need validation | 19:29 |
andrey-mp | prototype already implemets guidelines | 19:30 |
catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: CHris already made the change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336704/ | 19:30 |
andrey-mp | but we still can't agree about test association | 19:30 |
catherineD|2 | from Foundation point of vie | 19:30 |
catherineD|2 | that is why we schedule meeting on Thursday .. | 19:31 |
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andrey-mp | catherineD|2: yeah, I saw it. I would ask - is it suitable way in prototype for adding new guidelines? | 19:31 |
catherineD|2 | vendor/product registration is useless without test association | 19:31 |
catherineD|2 | that would come after test association | 19:31 |
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andrey-mp | catherineD|2: but we can do these task in parallel... | 19:32 |
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catherineD|2 | Chris would like to link data from the Marketplace to RefStack .. that is our goal for Newton cycle | 19:32 |
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catherineD|2 | we can if we have time | 19:33 |
andrey-mp | catherineD|2: what data? | 19:33 |
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catherineD|2 | the certfication on marketplace to refstack result data | 19:33 |
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andrey-mp | ok. next my question for this theme will be later when we will talk about my reviews ) | 19:34 |
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catherineD|2 | sure let's discuss about your reviews | 19:35 |
catherineD|2 | #topic Using refstacl-client to update product table product_ref_id | 19:35 |
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catherineD|2 | basically I do not have technical issues with both review ... | 19:36 |
catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: I want to make sure that we all understand how the CPID is created | 19:37 |
andrey-mp | I have only one - refstack-client will support feature that is not present in RefStack API... but we don't have release model for refstack-client | 19:37 |
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andrey-mp | as I know - CPID now is a ID of public endpoint of keystone | 19:38 |
catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: agree | 19:38 |
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catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: yea most of the time CPID is the hash of the public endpoint of keyston ... | 19:38 |
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andrey-mp | For me - it's ok for cloud identification | 19:39 |
catherineD|2 | There are a lot of code in refstack-client trying to get the service id either of v2 or v3 keystone API | 19:39 |
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andrey-mp | (and it didn't work on my cloud :) ) | 19:40 |
andrey-mp | because tempest.conf changed | 19:40 |
catherineD|2 | but most of the time these algorithms failed because of the way we code and the user tempest config file | 19:40 |
catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: exactly | 19:40 |
catherineD|2 | pvaneck: sslypushenko: so I wander whether this is the time we should review this CPID code so we do not give user the false idea that the cpids can be service id | 19:41 |
sslypushenko | yeap, it is good time for review CPID getting code | 19:42 |
andrey-mp | catherineD|2: you mean that CPID should not be public keystone endpoint ID? | 19:43 |
catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: that is what it is now most of the time .. | 19:43 |
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sslypushenko | andrey-mp: we need something else for private clouds | 19:43 |
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andrey-mp | sslypushenko: why and what? | 19:44 |
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catherineD|2 | so for public cloud this endpoint_id will be unique ... but for private cloud they are not necessary to be unique | 19:44 |
sslypushenko | because 127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0 is not unique url for many clouds) | 19:45 |
andrey-mp | btw - we can implement small tempest plugin inside of refstack client. it can be based on tempest infrastructure and will write somewhere detected information about the cloud. | 19:45 |
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andrey-mp | sslypushenko - it is not the URL as I know - it is an ID of endpoint. or am I wrong? | 19:45 |
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hogepodge | you can't rely on results always being generated in refstack-client | 19:46 |
andrey-mp | catherineD|2: with another CPID it will be another cloud. user can register/delete many private cloud as he want. | 19:46 |
hogepodge | sometimes users take output from their ci runs and then use the client to upload the data, so tempest isn't being run from the client | 19:46 |
sslypushenko | andrey-mp: for public clouds it is hash of url | 19:46 |
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catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: it is the URL in the case that refstack-client can not communicate to the cloud due to the way we code | 19:46 |
andrey-mp | hm. then my review for refstack-client is incorrect | 19:47 |
catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: as hogepodge: indicates ... we can no assume that refstack-client can connect to the cloud .. | 19:47 |
sslypushenko | catherineD|2: btw, I don't like this idea, though | 19:48 |
andrey-mp | this is the question - how we can identify any cloud? | 19:48 |
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catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: this is why I agree with your review technically but not practically | 19:48 |
andrey-mp | or how we can associate uploaded results? | 19:48 |
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catherineD|2 | sslypushenko: pls let us know your thoughts | 19:49 |
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catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: this is the exact reason why I think result should be assocciate to product_id and not product_ref_id | 19:49 |
andrey-mp | with such thoughts - association is possible only in RefStack UI | 19:50 |
catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: user upload their result and determine the product they want the result to associate to | 19:50 |
andrey-mp | in this case we should re-think use cases about Cloud ID detection | 19:50 |
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sslypushenko | idea to upload raw results using refstack-client looks like a working temporary solution but it breaks the idea of RefStack as an origin of truth | 19:51 |
andrey-mp | sslypushenko: +100 | 19:51 |
catherineD|2 | Cloud ( identified by CloudID) is an instance of a product .. product is unique | 19:51 |
sslypushenko | subunit test results does not contain any kind on cloud identity - and it is a main issue here | 19:52 |
andrey-mp | catherineD|2: cloud can be built from several products | 19:52 |
andrey-mp | but it doesn't describe what is CloudID | 19:53 |
catherineD|2 | sslypushenko: that is a request from hogepodge: to allow vendor to use the results from their CI run | 19:53 |
sslypushenko | catherineD|2: I know... unfortunately it is also a workaround not a soulution | 19:53 |
sslypushenko | *solution | 19:53 |
catherineD|2 | sslypushenko: and since that is our mission (as we describe in our mission statement) we have to honor that .. | 19:54 |
catherineD|2 | sslypushenko: I understand .. | 19:54 |
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sslypushenko | we need to provide kind of tool for signing test results. This tool should be small and safe to run as a part of internal ci pipeline | 19:55 |
catherineD|2 | sslypushenko: ++ | 19:56 |
andrey-mp | how it can work/ | 19:56 |
catherineD|2 | we thought that we can rely on honor system ... but this thought is being challenge right now | 19:56 |
sslypushenko | Than we can assume that these test results was produced by cloud with specified CPID | 19:56 |
andrey-mp | question about what is the CloudID still present ) | 19:57 |
sslypushenko | catherineD|2: I'd like to rely on some peace of code besides honor) | 19:57 |
catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: good question ... at this point cloudid is just a number | 19:58 |
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catherineD|2 | even that we can get it from a cloud it is not perfect ... | 19:58 |
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catherineD|2 | let's think about this some more | 19:59 |
catherineD|2 | meanwhile please review Replace run_tempest.sh script with ostestr command ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329691/ ) | 20:00 |
catherineD|2 | need to end the meeting ... | 20:00 |
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catherineD|2 | thank you all | 20:00 |
catherineD|2 | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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