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leong#ping hughhalf02:01
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leong#startmeeting product working group02:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  5 02:02:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is leong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.02:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.02:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group'02:02
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leong#chair add hughhalf02:02
openstackWarning: Nick not in channel: add02:02
openstackCurrent chairs: add hughhalf leong02:02
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leong#topic RollCall02:03
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leongwho is here for product wg regional meeting?02:03
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leongwho is here for product wg regional meeting?02:08
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leongNot enough quorum.. meeting adjourned02:11
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leong#endmeeting02:12
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jul  5 02:12:07 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)02:12
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-07-05-02.02.html02:12
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-07-05-02.02.txt02:12
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openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-07-05-02.02.log.html02:12
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moshele#startmeeting sriov13:01
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openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  5 13:01:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
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moshelehi everyone13:01
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lennybhi13:01
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lbeliveauhello13:02
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skramajahi13:02
saneaxo/13:02
moshele#topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI13:02
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mosheleso lennyb is working on the multi node CI for SR-IOV13:03
lennybwe have a multinode CI job and found some bugs in tempest #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335447/13:03
mosheleyes, and also we need to write tests for migration and migration revert13:04
moshelelennyb is starting to write the migration test13:04
lennybyeap, working on it13:04
lbeliveauI can help writing more tests13:04
mosheleyes you can work on the migration revert test13:05
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moshelelbeliveau: we will see how to split the tests after the first one will work  :)13:06
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lbeliveaumoshele: sure, I need to fix my multi-node devstack anyway13:06
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mosheleonce we have migration test is working I will send the ML status update and request for commenting in nova13:07
lbeliveaucool13:07
mosheleI will target it for next week13:07
moshele#topic Bug Fixes13:08
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moshelelbeliveau: can you update on the migration patches?13:08
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lbeliveaumigration and revert migration with SR-IOV are working13:09
lbeliveautricky part was to fix all those race conditions13:09
mosheleI will try to test it as well13:09
moshelecan you fix the pep8 on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326174/13:10
lbeliveaumoshele: this patch is still not getting results from Mellanox CI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24257313:10
lbeliveaumoshele: will do13:10
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moshelelannyb can you check why we  don't vote13:10
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moshelelennyb ^13:11
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mosheleso we first try to merge the     pci: Update binding:profile for SR-IOV ports - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573/21 and     Allocate PCI devices on migration: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328983/413:12
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moshelewith just migration test in tempest and after that we will try to merge the revert patch13:12
lbeliveauok13:12
mosheleanything else on bug?13:13
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lbeliveaunot for me13:13
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moshele#topic Specs for review13:13
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mosheleI don't have any update regarding SR-IOV spect13:14
mosheleanyone have spec he want to raise here?13:15
mosheleor to talk about other topics?13:16
mosheleso I end the end the meeting ?13:17
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mosheles/end/can13:17
lbeliveauI'm good for today13:17
mosheleso let focus on the migration and improving CI for now :)13:18
saneaxthanks for the updates on migration13:18
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saneaxwe are looking forward for the functionality13:19
lbeliveaugreat !13:19
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mosheleyes13:19
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mosheleI think the migration patches will fix also macvtap port and physical-direct port migration, but we need to test it13:21
lbeliveauyes13:21
moshelewe test only with direct port at the moment13:21
mosheleI think we are done here so thanks for joining13:22
lbeliveauthanks13:22
lbeliveaubye guys13:22
moshele#endmeeting13:22
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jul  5 13:22:28 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:22
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saneaxbye folks13:22
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shardy#startmeeting tripleo14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  5 14:00:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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shardy#topic rollcall14:00
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saneaxo/14:00
EmilienMo/14:00
shardyHi all, who's around?14:00
rhalliseyhi14:00
skramajahello14:00
dprincehello14:00
beagleso/14:00
ccamachoHello guys!!!14:01
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shardy#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO14:01
derekho/14:01
trowno/14:02
shardy#topic agenda14:02
shardy* one off agenda items14:02
shardy* bugs14:02
shardy* Projects releases or stable backports14:02
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shardy* CI14:02
shardy* Specs14:02
shardy* open discussion14:02
shardyDoes anyone have anything to add re one-off items?14:02
shardyI see one re the UI network diagram, anything else?14:02
pandao/ (late rollcall)14:04
shardy#topic one-off agenda items14:04
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shardy#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo-ui/+spec/network-diagram14:04
shardyhonza: Hi!14:04
shardySo apologies, I saw the openstack-dev thread on this but have not yet replied14:04
shardythe feature looks good, I'm just wondering what additional interfaces it may need14:05
marioso/ /me late14:05
d0ugalo/14:05
shardye.g can you use something like a heat stack-preview to get the graph of all network resources?14:05
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shardyIMHO you should definitely avoid parsing the templates directly as that will probably be fragile, and duplicate stuff inside heat14:05
shardyAny other comments or questions on the BP?14:05
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shardyA spec would probably be a good idea, but that probably shouldn't prevent you starting the implementation14:07
shardythe main risk I see in the BP description is "parse them from YAML"14:07
shardyas mentioned, I don't think we should do that14:07
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saneaxwill it be encompassing the provider network as well, the ones set by os-net-config?14:08
shardysaneax: good question - seems like we'd want it to support visualizing and validation both the physical and overlay network configuration14:09
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shardySince honza doesn't appear to be around, lets take this the the existing openstack-dev thread14:10
shardy#topic bugs14:10
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dprinceshardy: sounds good14:10
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shardy#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/14:11
honzashardy: sorry, late14:11
shardyhonza: np, let's catch up in #tripleo after and/or on the ML14:11
honzashardy: ok, thanks14:11
shardyoverall the BP looks good, but there's some details we should work out re parsing the templates14:11
shardyDoes anyone have any specific bugs to discuss this week?14:12
honzashardy: dprince: yaml parsing is to be done via heat to avoid duplication of efforts (sorry that wasn't clear)14:12
shardythings have been going better with CI this week, but there's still some issues with upgrades job both on master and stable branches14:12
shardysome of that seems to be memory and/or walltime related14:13
sshnaidmshardy, filed a but for upgrades: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/159904814:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599048 in tripleo "CI upgrades job fail because of memory shortage" [High,New]14:13
sshnaidmshardy, but will look at this after ci move14:13
sshnaidm(next week)14:14
derekhshardy sshnaidm so the upgrades job now doesn't exist, until we get rh1 back doing something14:14
shardyderekh: hehe, that's one way to fix the problem ;)14:15
derekhshardy: yup, unfortunatly we could only run a subset of jobs to keep us ticking over14:15
shardyderekh: cool, what's the timeline for bringing the rh1 capacity back online?14:15
dprincederekh: could we fit in a periodic upgrade job to at least monitor it?14:16
dprincederekh: just an idea...14:16
derekhI've added the upgrades jobs as an experimental job on the tripleo-ci repo, but that wont work unless we add multinics to the OVB envs14:16
shardyso that means we've got no coverage of net-iso now too?14:16
dprincesounds like it is time to land a bunch of code :) !14:17
shardylol14:17
shardy#topic CI14:17
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derekhdprince: yup, I think I did add it as a periodic job14:17
shardysince we're talking CI, let's just do the CI topic now :)14:17
derekhdprince: but we'll need multi nics to for it to pass14:17
dprincederekh: okay, so perhaps just a report, or we monitor that manually each day...14:17
* derekh had something prepared14:17
derekhAll our jobs are now running on rh1, this is a subset of jobs but hopefully we'll only be in this situation for a short period14:17
derekhMost of the details on the move are here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/098616.html14:17
derekhIf the jobs on rh2 go well, I think the main quiestion we need to answer is, should we redploy rh1 as it was or instead switch to OVB14:17
derekhSome of the pros/cons I've put in that email, so maybe we should discuss it there14:17
derekhOn rh2 we have two problems currently14:17
derekh1. libery and mitaka jobs were failing because the sudoers file on the image used contained quotes and instack undercloud didn't allow for that14:17
derekhthis patch fixes the problem https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336470/14:17
derekhbut on liberty there seem to be a seperate problem, python is failing with a seg fault14:17
derekhhttp://logs.openstack.org/70/336470/1/check-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-ha/816d049/console.html#_2016-07-04_16_14_34_27012714:17
derekhnot sure why yet14:18
derekh2. The failure rate of the HA job is a little highter then it was on rh2, this is what I'm trying to reproduce at the moment14:18
derekhthe first line is wronge, all jobs are now on rh2...14:18
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shardyderekh: thanks for the update - so can we make the call re OVB when we've run the new rh2 CI for a little longer?14:19
derekhthe last line is wrong also, s/rh2/rh1/14:19
dprincederekh: I will catch up on the list too, but unless RH1 comes up without much work I'm leaning towards a rebuild14:19
shardye.g when will rh1 be either rebuilt or brought back online?14:19
dprincewe are long overdue... I hate having to context switch back to Nova BM and tripleo-image-lements to maintain that cloud14:20
derekhshardy: yup, I think that would be best, but I'm leaning in the direction of OVB aswell14:20
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shardyYeah, provided the OVB env is working smoothly it seems like it'd be good to standardize on that14:20
derekhshardy: we should have the HW available to us again on thursday14:20
shardyderekh: Ok, cool, not a huge outage then14:20
derekhshardy: after that it depends on what problems we hit, there could be none or many14:20
dprinceshardy: available doesn't mean anything is working :)14:21
dprincefingers crossed though14:21
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shardydprince: Yeah, but at that point we can make the call re OVB or not ;)14:21
derekhyup, what dprince said14:21
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shardyuntil the hardware is moved, we can keep deliberating and looking at how things are with rh2 :)14:21
EmilienMdo we need refrain ourselves to merge some kind of patches (eg: net iso)?14:21
shardyEmilienM: I think we'll have to rely on local testing for things that look risky from a CI coverage perspective14:22
dprinceEmilienM: without local testing I'd say lets be careful14:22
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shardy+114:22
EmilienMgood to know14:22
dprinceI don't think we need to make a hard rule about not merging things though14:22
shardyOk, anything else we need to discuss re CI?14:23
pandaonboarding for new workforce ?14:23
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shardypanda: Ah yeah, I never got around to the ML thread re mentoring, I'll do it today14:24
shardysorry, busy week14:24
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pandaI will need some directions on where to start and what are the initial expectation14:24
shardythanks for the reminder14:24
pandashardy: ok, thanks.14:24
derekhI'll also create an accound on rh2 with some quota for people looking to reproduce ci and put togeth some instructions14:25
shardyderekh: +1 that sounds good14:25
EmilienMhttps://goo.gl/VpIZPJ <- CI bugs14:25
saneaxderekh, +114:25
shardy#topic Projects releases or stable backports14:25
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shardySo, it's only a week until newton-214:25
shardy#link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-214:26
shardy#link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html14:26
EmilienMshardy: sorry, still on CI14:26
shardyI'm starting to get worried, because although we're making good progress, we've not landed any blueprints yet14:26
EmilienMshardy: we need to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336130/14:26
shardysame as n-114:26
EmilienMshardy: mgould has some patches waiting on liberty and he's waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336130/14:26
shardyI think we're already pushing hard on composable-services, but can folks please help by prioritizing reviews to things on that n-2 launchpad list (bugs and BPs)14:27
mariosshardy: for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/overcloud-upgrades-workflow-mitaka-to-newton - i've been pulled into some mitaka related upgrades work atm... so that may slip. biggest issue there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/159695014:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1596950 in tripleo "undercloud upgrade from stable/mitaka to latest hangs - possibly for swift services yet tbd" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Marios Andreou (marios-b)14:27
shardyI'm going to start deferring things this week, but it'd be super-great if I don't have to defer multiple features..14:27
shardymarios: ack, please retarget to n-3 then, and link the related bugs on the whiteboard14:28
shardyif it's blocked by that bug, you can set the status to blocked14:28
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mariosshardy: ack14:28
shardyEmilienM: thanks, I saw that yesterday, good to see the lint issues are now fixed14:29
EmilienMshardy: still need +1 on liberty, mitaka is fixed14:29
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shardyI think we should merge it, the upgrades job isn't failing because of the gemfile change14:30
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EmilienMright14:30
shardydone ;)14:31
EmilienMshardy: the upgrade job is broken on liberty since we switched to ipv614:31
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shardyYeah, it'd be good to work out which patches we need to fix that14:31
shardythanks for investigating and figuring out the root-cause14:31
EmilienMright, I spent time on it but I could not find time to work on it more14:31
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shardynp, lets revisit after n-2 has passed14:31
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shardyDoes anyone else have updates or questions around releases or backports?14:32
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shardy#topic Specs14:33
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shardy#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open14:33
EmilienMshardy: for the release, I can take care of it next Monday if you want14:33
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shardyWe need further review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313872/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313871/14:34
shardybeagles: ^^ any chance you can revisit those?14:34
shardyit'd be good to land them soon, as we're getting late in the cycle14:34
shardydsneddon has an interesting one re lldp too14:34
shardyand we need to figure out the plan re composable upgrades14:35
karthiksshadower,  we are working on SRIOV and DPDK14:35
shardyEmilienM: Sure, if you're happy to do that that would be great, thanks! :)14:35
karthiksshardy, we are working on SRIOV and DPDK14:35
EmilienMwill do14:35
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shardykarthiks: ack - I've approved the blueprints, so it'd be good to get those specs landed too14:36
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skramajashardy, we are almost completed with SRIOV changes.. final puppet changes in progres..14:36
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skramajafor the dpdk, we are working on the os-net-config and  the puppet changes for dpdk..14:36
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mariosshardy: ack on the composable upgrades, though as we discussed previously,  an upgrade newton to ocata thing. by work out you mean still tbd/discuss etc right or did i miss a thread again14:37
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shardyskramaja: good to know, I see some patches referenced from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/tripleo-sriov14:37
shardythanks for the update14:37
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skramajashardy, is there anything we have to do on the specs to push the specs14:37
mariosshardy: also hapy to work/help on a spec once we're there... though jistr has one up already that we should update once we decide14:37
shardymarios: Yeah, I was just mentioning it as it's an outstanding spec14:37
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shardymarios: we've got a more urgent "ensure minor updates work with composable services" problem for Newton14:38
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shardybut the major upgrade of composable services can potentially slip to ocata, but I'd like to get a clear idea of how we'll do it asap14:38
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mariosshardy: ack thanks14:38
shardybeen planning some prototyping to help with that, but composable roles/services have taken priority14:38
dprinceshardy: any links to your prototypes?14:39
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* dprince is interested in prototyping this too14:39
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shardydprince: No, I've not done them yet, just looked at a few possible approaches14:39
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shardyhoping to get to that after we're past n2 next week14:39
dprinceshardy: cool. thanks14:39
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EmilienMI have one remark about composable services14:40
shardydprince: cool, we can sync up and perhaps work on it together14:40
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EmilienMI would like to slow down a bit the effort in new composable services (mistral, zaqar, etc) and help me (and others) to finish core services (neutron, ceilometer, etc)14:40
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EmilienMwe still have some bits to move14:41
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EmilienMand if we want to make it for newton, we need more hands14:41
EmilienMmistral/zaqar/etc can wait IMHO14:41
dprinceEmilienM: for new services though there shouldn't be any conflicts right?14:41
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EmilienMI'm not talking about conflict14:41
dprinceEmilienM: besides the CI resource drain, what are your concerns?14:41
EmilienMok let me put this way: I need help to finish ceilometer / nova / neutron bits14:42
mariosEmilienM: :( i'd really rather not delay manila further  though i can appreciate your concern for the time left to get all thigns done (core)14:42
dprinceEmilienM: from my POV one of the biggest benefits of composability is that we can add new services without concern for impacting the core14:42
EmilienMI'm dealing with multiple blockers in same time, I would need some help14:42
dprinceEmilienM: ack, I agree with the priorities FWIW14:43
EmilienMdprince: *again* it's not a problem of impacting the core14:43
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EmilienMit's a problem of "enough people moving core bits)14:43
shardywe should prioritize those services we know folks want to scale independently of the controller14:43
dprinceEmilienM: but I would like to not discourage others who are chipping away at new services14:43
shardye.g of those which are still part of the monolithic controller definition14:43
EmilienMI'm not discouraging people, I'm asking for help here14:43
dprinceEmilienM: gotcha14:43
EmilienMcool14:43
EmilienMsome people are waiting for this thing to deploy AIO etc14:44
shardyYeah, there's a balance here, stuff like manila have been around for ages so we shouldn't block that, but absolutely we need more help with reviews/patches for the core services14:44
EmilienMit's currently not possible because we need to finish nova / neutron (very close but still not finished)14:45
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slaglefwiw, i have deployed aio, w/o pacemaker14:45
shardyEmilienM: perhaps we should break down the remaining services and raise bugs for those not yet decomposed14:45
EmilienMright, but with pacemaker we still have issues (I'm on it)14:45
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slagleEmilienM: i'm testing your other 2 patches now14:45
shardythen we could land the composable services BP, which is really about the new architecture, and have a clearer view wrt progress on remaining/new services14:46
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shardywith the benefit of hindsight, a single BP and an etherpad hasn't been the best way to track this (huge) chunk of work14:46
jristdid it seem huge in foresight? :)14:46
EmilienMright, it was a lot of work14:46
shardyjrist: I think we knew it was a lot of work, but tracking it could have been done in a more granular way14:47
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ccamachoguys quick question, is the etherpad fully updated? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-composable-services14:47
EmilienMccamacho: I'm trying to update it every day14:47
dprinceshardy: we could have just forked t-h-t and then we'd be done by now already :)14:48
EmilienMccamacho: I check all patches every day and update status14:48
ccamachoEmilienM me to, but when I hit things not updated, ack14:48
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shardydprince: maybe, but this approach has allowed us to prove each step via CI, which we would have lost with the forking approach I guess14:48
shardyprogress lately has been very good, since CI has been more stable :)14:49
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shardy#topic open discussion14:49
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shardyAnyone have any topics to discuss in our final 10mins?14:50
shardyslagle: the AIO work sounds interesting, care to share any details on that?14:50
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shardyEvidently not ;)14:52
shardyOk, well if there's nothing else lets finish early, thanks everyone!14:52
dprinceshardy: thanks14:52
shardy#endmeeting14:52
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jul  5 14:52:34 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:52
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-07-05-14.00.html14:52
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EmilienMshardy: thx14:52
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ccamachoThanks!14:55
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tmorin#startmeeting bgpvpn15:08
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  5 15:08:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:08
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:08
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn'15:08
tmorinhi everyone, doude, michchap, pcarver, timirnich, steve_ruan15:09
steve_ruanhi15:09
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tmorinwimdeclerq told me he would not attend15:10
tmorinI think this will be a short meeting15:10
doudehi15:10
tmorinhi15:10
tmorin#topic work in progress15:10
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tmorina few things15:10
tmorinthe horizon tenant GUI work is in progress15:11
tmorin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335091/15:11
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tmorinnot much more to say about it15:11
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tmorinwork is in progress as well to fix a bug happening with the opencontrail driver15:12
tmorin#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/159696215:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1596962 in networking-bgpvpn "opencontrail driver issue with a particular network association" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Thomas Monguillon (thomas-monguillon)15:12
tmorindifferent people have hit this bug15:12
tmorinthe fix is simple and I'll merge it soon15:12
tmorinexcept that our unit test job is currently broken (let's discuss this later)15:13
tmorinthe VNI change is in progress (steve_ruan)15:13
tmorinwe still need to reflect in the API doc which additional constraints we need to put on associations to avoid conflicts between BGPVPN VNIs and VNIs used by Neutron L2/VXLAN15:14
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tmorinsteve_ruan: I have seen your last comment, but I still need to think a bit more what we need to specify for BGPVPN VNIs and Router associations15:15
steve_ruanyes, the constraints need more consideration15:15
steve_ruanthanks15:15
tmorin#topic open discussion15:16
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tmorindo we have anything more to discuss today ?15:16
tmorin#undo15:16
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x7f2b350f3c90>15:16
steve_ruanmy college find another bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/159905515:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599055 in networking-bgpvpn "tox unit test failed without testresources package" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Henry Dong (henry-dong)15:16
tmorinah yes, of course15:16
tmorinour gate is broken15:16
steve_ruanit blocked the tox15:16
tmorinI had a look at is as well15:17
tmorinI don't get where the issue is15:17
steve_ruanit's very strange that someone remove "testresources>=0.2.4"15:17
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steve_ruanfrom test_requirement15:17
tmorinwhere/when was it removed ?15:18
steve_ruanneed dig out15:18
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tmorinI would have expected testresources to be installed in the test venv because neutron is installed there, but maybe only neutron/requirements.txt deps are installed15:19
tmorinidentifying the change that caused the failure would be very useful15:21
tmorinhave you discussed with net-sfc folks about that yet ?15:21
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steve_ruansorry, the root cause is not that someone change test_requirement.text15:23
steve_ruanbut add testresource can fix it15:23
steve_ruanI found since March 2016, test_requirement.text is not changed15:24
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regXboisomeone rang?15:25
tmorin:)15:26
tmorincross IRC room discussion15:26
regXboithe problem with missing testresources is that you need to include it in test-requirements.txt15:27
tmorinsteve_ruan: feel free to read #openstack-neutron logs15:27
regXboibut... that's not likely going to be enough15:27
tmorinregXboi: did you identify why it wasn't necessary before ?15:27
regXboitmorin: I wasn't in a search mode, I was in a fix mode15:28
tmorin.. or more generally why much more is now needed15:28
tmorinregXboi: ok15:28
regXboioh well *that* I know15:29
regXboifirst, the testresources is an update from openstack bot15:29
regXboibut I suspect neutron was forking and changed15:29
regXboibut as far as the OVS stuff is concerned, neutron switched to the native ovs interface15:29
regXboiand looking at neutron-vpnaas, it's not prepared for that change15:29
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regXboiso that's where I'd look next15:30
tmorintest-requirements has included testresources since January, so this is not recent, right ?15:30
regXboiwell, for neutron it has, neutron-vpnaas is another matter - I can't speak to networking-sfc15:31
regXboier wait I said that wrong (too many projects)15:31
tmorinregXboi: understood about the ofctl/native switch, it seems to be a likely cause why importing testresources now fails15:31
regXboinetworking-sfc didn't have it, I can't speak to networking-bgpvpn15:31
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tmorinit doesn't have it either15:32
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regXboithen I'd add look at adding it and seeing what breaks next15:33
tmorinyes15:33
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regXboinow i've not dug beyond just adding that15:34
tmorinI wanted to know why we now had to include it explicitly, but I think I will just assume that one of the requirements or test-requirements of net-bgpvpn was declaring it as a requirement15:34
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regXboisomebody in #openstack-neutron might have a better idea15:36
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regXboias to the chapter and verse of why15:36
tmorinyep, let's follow-up there15:36
tmorinhttp://logs.openstack.org/41/337541/1/check/gate-networking-bgpvpn-python27/21135f0/console.html#_2016-07-05_09_39_56_29300915:37
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hongbin#startmeeting containers16:00
openstackhongbin: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.16:00
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adrian_ottohongbin: the bgbvpn meeting has not ended16:01
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hongbinIt looks they forgot to end the meeting16:01
strigazishardy: ping16:01
muraliacan you end it yourself?16:01
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hongbin#endmeeting16:01
hongbinNo, doesn't seem to work16:02
muraliahmm16:02
strigaziI think shardy started it16:02
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strigaziI pinged on tripleo16:05
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hongbin#startmeeting containers16:05
openstackhongbin: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.16:05
hongbin..........16:06
derekhtmorin ^^ the bgpvpn meeting is still running16:06
adrian_ottowe need to keep trying to end it.16:06
adrian_otto#endmeeting16:06
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tmorinwops16:06
tmorin #endmeeting16:06
tmorin#endmeeting16:07
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jul  5 16:07:09 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:07
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-07-05-15.08.html16:07
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tmorinvery sorry16:07
adrian_ottothere we go.16:07
hongbin#startmeeting containers16:07
adrian_ottothanks tmorin16:07
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  5 16:07:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:07
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:07
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'containers'16:07
hongbin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-07-05_1600_UTC Today's agenda16:07
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hongbin#topic Roll Call16:07
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Dragoo/16:07
muraliamurali allada16:07
tcammanno/16:07
adrian_ottoAdrian Otto16:07
dane_leblanco/16:07
eghoboo/16:07
rpothiero/16:07
rochapor1oRicardo Rocha16:07
strigaziSpyros Trigazis16:08
hongbinThanks for joining the meeting Drago muralia tcammann adrian_otto dane_leblanc eghobo rpothier rochapor1o strigazi16:08
hongbin#topic Announcements16:08
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hongbinI will be on travel next week so unable to chair the next meeting. Looking for a temp chair.16:08
hongbinAny volunteer?16:08
adrian_ottoo/16:08
hongbinadrian_otto: you can chair the next meeting?16:09
adrian_ottoyes16:09
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hongbinadrian_otto: thanks16:09
adrian_ottonp.16:09
hongbin#topic Review Action Items16:09
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hongbin1. hongbin create a wiki session to report a list of Magnum users (DONE)16:09
hongbin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum#Users16:09
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hongbinIt looks CERN is the only user16:09
hongbinFor others, we would like to know if you are using Magnum16:10
hongbinJust write your name and oragnazation there if you like.16:10
hongbin#topic Essential Blueprints Review16:10
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hongbin1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi)16:11
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support16:11
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strigaziNot much since last week, we are still working on the gate tests.16:11
hongbinstrigazi: any update?16:11
strigaziOnly the patch for fixed networks was merged16:12
strigazithat's it16:12
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hongbinstrigazi: thanks16:13
hongbinAny question for strigazi ?16:13
hongbin2. Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango)16:13
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide16:13
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hongbinTon is on vacation. I update you on behalf of him.16:13
hongbin(Ton) The session on bay driver and baymodel were merged.16:14
hongbin(Ton) The new section on bay is about 75% written16:14
hongbin(Ton) I will finish after I return.16:14
hongbinThat is it from him16:14
hongbinQuestion?16:14
hongbin3. COE Bay Drivers (jamie_h, muralia)16:15
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-drivers16:15
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muraliaThanks strigazi for updating the swarm driver patch while I was out yesterday.16:15
muraliawe seem to be really close to getting all the tests passing.16:15
muraliathere might be an issue with removing the hardcoded path to the swarm templates right now.16:16
muralialooking into that. but over all, we are really close to getting it done.16:16
muraliaI'll switch focus to the kubneters drivers once everything looks fine with the swarm driver.16:16
muraliathats all for me16:17
hongbinmuralia: Thanks for teh update16:17
strigaziI have two patches as WIP on that bp, please ignore them.16:17
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muraliacan you abandon them strigazi?16:17
muraliathe current patch seems to be the right way to go.16:17
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strigaziYes, I leave them for a few days if I need to run something on the gate. They helped me a little16:18
muraliasure16:19
mkraiHi everyone! I am sorry for being late16:19
hongbinmkrai: np16:19
hongbinAny comment for the bay driver BP?16:19
hongbin4. Create a magnum installation guide (strigazi)16:20
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hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-installation-guide16:20
hongbinstrigazi: ^^16:20
strigaziThe guide for suse is merged, and I'm still trying to package debian16:20
strigaziI'll also add a "launch an instance" section16:21
strigazithat's all16:21
hongbinWhat is "launch an instance" section for?16:21
strigazilike so : http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-ubuntu/launch-instance-heat.html16:22
strigaziIt's part of the current install guide to actually test that a simple example work after deployment16:22
hongbinOK. It looks that section is for launching a bay16:22
strigaziyes16:22
hongbinI see16:22
hongbinAny other comment for the installation guide BP?16:23
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strigazito clarify16:23
strigazidebian packages also means ubuntu packages16:23
strigazithey are the same for magnum16:23
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hongbinget that16:24
hongbinAny problem for packaging the debian packages?16:24
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strigaziMany, but I'm getting closer :)16:25
hongbinstrigazi: It looks the debian part is particular challenging?16:25
hongbinOK. Sounds good16:25
hongbin#topic Magnum UI Subteam Update (bradjones)16:25
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hongbinbradjones: there?16:25
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* hongbin didn't receive any update from magnum-ui so far16:26
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hongbinIt looks Brad is not there. Let's skip this session16:26
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hongbin#topic Kuryr Integration Update (tango)16:27
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hongbin(Ton) I did attend the Kuryr meeting on Monday.16:27
hongbin(Ton) They have started the code refactoring into 3 repos: kuryr-lib, kuryr-libnetwork, kuryr-kubernetes.16:27
hongbin(Ton) I will use the stable fork for our development until the new repos are stable.16:27
hongbinThat's it16:27
hongbinComment?16:27
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hongbin#topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas16:28
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hongbin1. Create a Magnum team account in Docker Hub for hosting official images (strigazi)16:28
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strigaziThere is one, but we don't know who owns it16:28
strigazihttps://hub.docker.com/r/openstackmagnum/16:28
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hongbinstrigazi: maybe it help to describe the rational to create a magnum repo in Docker Hub?16:29
strigaziI pushed a change for cinder swam integration with rexray deploying it16:29
strigaziin a container16:29
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strigaziput we need a docker image for that. I thought that a good option is to have an official magnum repo for that16:30
strigazithis is the change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336594/16:30
strigaziI don't see another option since we use atomic16:31
strigaziwe can't install anything on it16:31
hongbinstrigazi: How large is the image?16:31
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strigaziI think 200mb, but i'm not sure let me check16:32
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hongbinLooks quite large16:32
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strigazi95416:32
strigazihttps://hub.docker.com/r/strigazi/docker-rexray/builds/bh2bmxvfvuqe2mzpdkrzuwf/16:32
hongbin954 mb ?!16:32
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strigaziI guess 164.6mb16:33
rochapor1oit's layered on fedora:23, if we have a common base image (be it fedora:23 or not) the actual rexray part would be much smaller16:33
hongbinok16:33
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muraliahttps://hub.docker.com/r/strigazi/docker-rexray/tags/16:34
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muralia216 mb16:34
hongbinMy worry is the gate won't have enough time to pull it down16:34
strigazithis size is with fedora:2316:34
hongbinUnless there is a way to build the image into the OS16:34
strigazito have it in the image?16:35
hongbinmaybe16:35
muraliado we bake in any other image right now?16:35
muraliaor will this be the first?16:35
strigaziif we do that we can add rexray directly16:35
adrian_ottothe openstack-infra team has expressed willingness to have a custom image for us16:35
strigaziadrian_otto: a custom fedora-atomic?16:36
adrian_ottobecause if they do that, we end up using less time for our gate tests, and that's good for the other projects.16:36
adrian_ottostrigazi: yes16:36
strigaziok16:36
rochapor1ohow will we manage updates? everything we put in the image itself will require a new image being pushed on every security update (vs a docker pull on the nodes)16:36
strigazithat means we maintain the rexray package in a way16:37
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muraliarochaporlo: good point. lets try to reduce the size of the docker image and see if that works.16:37
rochapor1othe alternative is a ostree rebase, but that requires a node reboot and it's complicated to manage16:38
strigaziI'll try to modify the image16:38
hongbinI guess it is very hard to reduce the size, unless we switch to fedora 2316:38
rochapor1oalpine?16:38
strigaziEven with the a smaller image. Where would that image live?16:39
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muraliawe should send a ML email to find out who created the docker hub account16:39
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hongbinstrigazi: Could we build the docker image in the post-devstack hook?16:39
strigaziIt will down load the fedora:23 image anyway16:40
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hongbinOK. Push the discussion in ML?16:41
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adrian_ottowhat if we had a local mirror (caching reverse proxy) of the docker hub in each of the clouds that openstack-infra exists, and enter host entries into the local /etc/hosts files to use that for the hub dns names16:41
adrian_ottothat would speed up the load of the dociker image considerably in the general case, and allow for them to be updated without our participation16:41
hongbinIf the infra team agree, this could be a solution16:43
strigaziand in which account we'll host the image?16:43
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adrian_ottois there one the upstream owns?16:44
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adrian_ottoor is this magnum specific?16:44
strigazimagnum specific16:44
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adrian_ottothen we can put a tarball of the image on tarballs.openstack.org16:44
strigaziI asked about an official16:44
adrian_ottoand just load it from that16:44
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adrian_ottoleverage the existing mirror infrastructure16:45
strigaziput the docker image in a tarball?16:45
adrian_ottoyes16:45
adrian_ottoyou can create one with docker export16:45
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adrian_ottoand you re-create it with docker import16:45
hongbinOK, then we can run docker build as part of the gate, then upload it to tarballs.openstack.org16:46
rochapor1owould we use that for the installation on production sites?16:46
strigaziok, I'll check if I can upload it there16:46
adrian_ottothat should work16:46
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adrian_ottorochapor1o: we should have a variable for the source of this16:46
adrian_ottothat way each cloud operator can select the location that makes the most sense for them.16:46
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rochapor1othat sounds good16:47
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hongbin#topic Open Discussion16:47
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strigaziSo we won't have a magnum account on docker hub16:47
adrian_ottothat's a future option16:48
hongbinstrigazi: I guess it is unnecessary, if we can run docker build instead16:48
strigaziok16:48
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strigazibay drivers passed the gate16:48
adrian_ottowhoot16:48
muraliayes!16:48
hongbinawesome16:49
strigaziit's only swarm but it's progress16:49
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hongbinDrago: I have a question for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333383/9/magnum/templates/kubernetes/fragments/api_gateway_switcher_kubemaster.yaml16:50
hongbinDrago: It looks we implemented a custom Heat resource for mixing the inputs to outputs16:51
hongbinDrago: Would it possible to contribute this resource to Heat?16:51
hongbinThat is OS::HEAT::ApiGateWaySwitcher instead of Magnum::ApiGatewaySwitcher16:52
DragoHm, interesting idea16:53
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DragoI will have to discuss it on #heat16:53
hongbinDrago: thx16:53
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hongbinAnything else to discuss?16:54
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hongbinIf no, I will close the meeting a little earlier16:55
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hongbinAll, thanks for joining the meeting. The next meeting will be chaired by adrian_otto at the same time next week16:56
adrian_ottofine with me16:56
hongbin#endmeeting16:56
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kzaitsev_mb#startmeeting murano17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  5 17:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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kzaitsev_mb#topic rollcall17:00
oshykhkerimovo/17:00
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zhurong0/17:00
kzaitsev_mblet's see who's today for the meeting17:00
tlashchovao/17:01
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kzaitsev_mb#topic Action Items Review17:04
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kzaitsev_mbwow we had quite a few17:04
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kzaitsev_mbok, obviously not checking on Nikolay_St ones — he's on vacation17:05
kzaitsev_mbalthough N2 is right behind the corner, so we'll have to ping him to enable convergence as soon as he gets from vacation17:05
vakovalchuko/17:05
vakovalchuksorry, was distracted17:06
kzaitsev_mb#link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html17:06
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kzaitsev_mbnp vakovalchuk =)17:06
kzaitsev_mbNikolay_St kzaitsev_mb draft a spec with all the options we have considering swtiching from glance v1 to glance v217:06
kzaitsev_mbthis one17:07
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kzaitsev_mbI've started to draft a short etherpad for this17:07
kzaitsev_mb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-glance-v217:07
kzaitsev_mbwould appreciate comments/thoughts17:07
kzaitsev_mbSo far forking a bg process seems like the most viable option to me..17:08
kzaitsev_mbkzaitsev_mb file a bp and advertise it in the ML about increasing the coverage17:09
kzaitsev_mbdid that =)17:09
kzaitsev_mbit's pretty short17:09
kzaitsev_mb#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-unit-test-coverage17:09
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kzaitsev_mbhave yet to advert it on the ML, also our friends at mirantis are about to publish a blogpost about murano and asked about some entry-level task list to include there. This looks just right for the task17:10
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kzaitsev_mbAnd the final item I have is #) kzaitsev_mb clarify with the release-team versioning of milestones and full releases of murano-agent ETA: N217:10
kzaitsev_mbyep, still have to do that17:11
kzaitsev_mb#action kzaitsev_mb clarify with the release-team versioning of milestones and full releases of murano-agent ETA: N217:11
kzaitsev_mbguess that's all with the AIs from last time17:11
kzaitsev_mb#topic Open Discussion17:11
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kzaitsev_mbvakovalchuk: it's that week again =) do we have anything to backport?17:12
vakovalchukkzaitsev_mb: a little, yes17:12
vakovalchukhere's the list for today17:12
vakovalchuk#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-stable-backports17:13
vakovalchukI have doubts about the priority of some of them though17:13
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vakovalchukdo we need to backport fixes to example plugin?17:14
kzaitsev_mblike usual — let's wait a couple of days to see if anyone has any objections before actually backporting the changes17:15
kzaitsev_mbvakovalchuk: what was the fix? =)17:15
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kzaitsev_mb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332733/1 this one?17:16
vakovalchukkzaitsev_mb: plugin wasn't working at all :)17:16
vakovalchuktlashchova can tell more probably)17:16
kzaitsev_mbthe versions thing — looks worthy of being backported to me17:16
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kzaitsev_mbotherwise the plugins just wont work, yep17:17
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kzaitsev_mbthanks vakovalchuk for keeping the list up to date =)17:19
tlashchovahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/332857/ one more fix in plugin17:19
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kzaitsev_mbtlashchova: it's in the list of bugs to be backported ;)17:20
vakovalchuktlashchova: it's the last item, yep17:20
vakovalchukin murano17:20
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kzaitsev_mbok. I don't have any news apart from ones I've already mentioned =)17:23
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kzaitsev_mbanyone has anything to add/ask?17:23
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kzaitsev_mb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336344/17:25
kzaitsev_mbFYI =)17:25
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kzaitsev_mbok if we do not have anything to discuss today — going to end the meeting early — would wait 5 more minutes to see if anyone would want to prevent that =)17:28
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vakovalchukkzaitsev_mb: take a look at this patch plz: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336659/. is Jenkins's -1 crelated to what you've written?17:30
vakovalchuksorry17:30
vakovalchukoh, no, that's right))17:30
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vakovalchuklooks like check-osc-plugins job is the only red one, but it looks like non-voting17:31
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kzaitsev_mbvakovalchuk: looks like an issue with requirements to me17:32
zhuronggate-python-muranoclient-requirements http://logs.openstack.org/59/336659/6/check/gate-python-muranoclient-requirements/96d8380/ : Incompatible requirement found; see http://docs.openstack.org/developer/requirements/ in 2m 42s17:32
kzaitsev_mbexactly )17:33
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kzaitsev_mbI guess we can continue the discussion in #murano, and end the meeting here, since there is not much to discuss =)17:36
kzaitsev_mbthanks for coming =)17:36
kzaitsev_mb#endmeeting17:36
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catherineD|2#startmeeting refstack19:00
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catherineD|2sslypushenko: hello19:00
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catherineD|2#link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-07-0519:01
catherineD|2let's give the other a couple more mins19:01
andrey-mpo/19:02
sslypushenkobefore we start - here the link on RefStaclClient application for AppCatalog https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336656/19:02
sslypushenkoClient can be runned19:02
sslypushenkoin cloud in 2 clicks)19:02
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andrey-mpin which cloud?19:03
andrey-mpinside/outside?19:03
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sslypushenkoany OpenStack cloud with Murano support19:03
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catherineD|2sslypushenko: great   I will add the link to our agenda so the refstack team can follow19:04
pvaneckcool. will try it out19:04
sslypushenkohmmm... do you have Openstack with Murano? O_o19:05
andrey-mpi'm sorry - i don't know much about Murano... it will run vm with refstack client to test this cloud?19:05
pvanecknot currently, but can add murano support19:05
sslypushenkoanyway, we can move on as soon as we are ready...19:06
sslypushenkojust a small piece of information to share19:06
catherineD|2sslypushenko: will take a look thx19:07
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catherineD|2I am not very familiar with Murano either ...19:07
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catherineD|2Let's discuss it next week when we each learn about what it does .. we will ask sslypushenko: for more info if needed next week19:10
pvaneckyea, i believe that is the gist of it, a vm will be spun up with refstack-client automatically installed19:10
sslypushenkocatherineD|2:  Lucky you))19:10
sslypushenkopvaneck:  yeap, it is just vm with refstack-client19:10
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catherineD|2today's agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-07-0519:11
catherineD|2ready to move on ?19:11
pvaneckyep19:12
catherineD|2alright19:12
catherineD|2#topic Test results ownership19:12
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andrey-mpcatherineD|219:13
andrey-mpcatherineD|219:13
andrey-mpsorry19:13
andrey-mpcatherineD|2: Alex told me that his question still doesn't have answers19:14
catherineD|2so we had a meeting last week but we ran out of time ... I will schedule additional meeting this week  .. I plan on Thurs 18:00 UTC .. does that work for everyone19:14
catherineD|2andrey-mp: that is why we need additional meeting schedule19:14
sslypushenkowill work for me19:15
andrey-mpcatherineD|2: for us is better 17:00 UTC...19:15
andrey-mpor 20:00 UTC19:15
catherineD|2sslypushenko: pvaneck: andrey-mp: I need your help to answers Alex's questions too ... so far the conversation is between Alex and I .., I would appreciate your inputs ..19:16
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catherineD|2andrey-mp: noted will try 17:00 UTC or 20:00 UTC19:17
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sslypushenkocatherineD|2:  20:00 is too late... 17:00 much better19:17
catherineD|2sslypushenko: ok 17:00 UTC on Thurs19:18
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sslypushenkoyeap +!19:18
catherineD|2meanwhile I really would like additonal inputs on the conversion between Alex and I ...  I am sorry for the lengthy conversation but your inputs are important to unlock the deadlock19:19
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andrey-mpas I understood Chris promised to get some answers19:20
catherineD|2andrey-mp: I am not sure what I can answer to Alex ... my anser will be the same like what I had answer and to him it is not good enough ... no point to go on .. at this point we need others' input19:20
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catherineD|2andrey-mp: that is why I will schedule addtional meeting19:21
andrey-mpDoes Chris can attend it?19:21
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catherineD|2I don't know the point is the have Chris and Mark to attend if Thursday is not good for them we will have to schedulte a different time ... their present to the meeting is necessary19:22
catherineD|2ok moving on ?19:23
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catherineD|2#topic Pending reviews19:23
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catherineD|2#topic     Disable the Catalog tabs on the UI. ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336739/ )19:23
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catherineD|2#link     Disable the Catalog tabs on the UI. ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336739/ )19:23
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catherineD|2andrey-mp: did you see  pvaneck: 's latest comments ... ?19:24
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andrey-mpyeah19:24
catherineD|2it was my mistake19:24
andrey-mpwe want to introduce these changes when it will ready?19:25
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catherineD|2yea19:26
catherineD|2as soon as we finish what we need to do in feature/vendor branch ...  we should merge it before the next summit19:26
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andrey-mpok. do you have a plan what we must implement?19:27
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pvaneckproduct + test association is the last big piece remaining I believe19:28
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andrey-mpwhat about guidelines? what about switch for UI - original version/extended version ?19:29
catherineD|2pvaneck:  yea .. and small thing here and there to improve the website (like enable editing , cancel ... _19:29
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catherineD|2andrey-mp: after test association we will go to guideline ...19:29
andrey-mplast change from Chris is about registering guidelines (by Foundation and by users)...19:29
catherineD|2with guideline we will need validation19:29
andrey-mpprototype already implemets guidelines19:30
catherineD|2andrey-mp: CHris already made the change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336704/19:30
andrey-mpbut we still can't agree about test association19:30
catherineD|2from Foundation point of vie19:30
catherineD|2that is why we schedule meeting on Thursday ..19:31
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andrey-mpcatherineD|2: yeah, I saw it. I would ask - is it suitable way in prototype for adding new guidelines?19:31
catherineD|2vendor/product registration is useless without test association19:31
catherineD|2that would come after test association19:31
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andrey-mpcatherineD|2: but we can do these task in parallel...19:32
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catherineD|2Chris would like to link data from the Marketplace to RefStack .. that is our goal for Newton cycle19:32
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catherineD|2we can if we have time19:33
andrey-mpcatherineD|2: what data?19:33
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catherineD|2the certfication on marketplace to refstack result data19:33
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andrey-mpok. next my question for this theme will be later when we will talk about my reviews )19:34
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catherineD|2sure let's discuss about your reviews19:35
catherineD|2#topic Using refstacl-client to update product table product_ref_id19:35
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catherineD|2basically I do not  have technical issues with both review ...19:36
catherineD|2andrey-mp:  I want to make sure that we all understand how the CPID is created19:37
andrey-mpI have only one - refstack-client will support feature that is not present in RefStack API... but we don't have release model for refstack-client19:37
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andrey-mpas I know - CPID now is a ID of public endpoint of keystone19:38
catherineD|2andrey-mp: agree19:38
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catherineD|2andrey-mp: yea most of the time CPID is the hash of the public endpoint of keyston ...19:38
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andrey-mpFor me - it's ok for cloud identification19:39
catherineD|2There are a lot of code in refstack-client trying to get the service id either of v2 or v3 keystone API19:39
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andrey-mp(and it didn't work on my cloud :) )19:40
andrey-mpbecause tempest.conf changed19:40
catherineD|2but most of the time these algorithms failed because of the way we code and the user tempest config file19:40
catherineD|2andrey-mp: exactly19:40
catherineD|2pvaneck: sslypushenko:  so I wander whether this is the time we should review this CPID code so we do not give user the false idea that the cpids can be service id19:41
sslypushenkoyeap, it is good time for review CPID getting code19:42
andrey-mpcatherineD|2: you mean that CPID should not be public keystone endpoint ID?19:43
catherineD|2andrey-mp: that is what it is now most of the time ..19:43
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sslypushenkoandrey-mp:  we need something else for private clouds19:43
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andrey-mpsslypushenko: why and what?19:44
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catherineD|2so for public cloud this endpoint_id will be unique ... but for private cloud they are not necessary to be unique19:44
sslypushenkobecause 127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0 is not unique url for many clouds)19:45
andrey-mpbtw - we can implement small tempest plugin inside of refstack client. it can be based on tempest infrastructure and will write somewhere detected information about the cloud.19:45
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andrey-mpsslypushenko - it is not the URL as I know - it is an ID of endpoint. or am I wrong?19:45
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hogepodgeyou can't rely on results always being generated in refstack-client19:46
andrey-mpcatherineD|2: with another CPID it will be another cloud. user can register/delete many private cloud as he want.19:46
hogepodgesometimes users take output from their ci runs and then use the client to upload the data, so tempest isn't being run from the client19:46
sslypushenkoandrey-mp:  for public clouds it is hash of url19:46
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catherineD|2andrey-mp: it is the URL in the case that refstack-client can not communicate to the cloud due to the way we code19:46
andrey-mphm. then my review for refstack-client is incorrect19:47
catherineD|2andrey-mp: as hogepodge: indicates ... we can no assume that refstack-client can connect to the cloud ..19:47
sslypushenkocatherineD|2:  btw, I don't like this idea, though19:48
andrey-mpthis is the question - how we can identify any cloud?19:48
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catherineD|2andrey-mp: this is why I agree with your review technically but not practically19:48
andrey-mpor how we can associate uploaded results?19:48
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catherineD|2sslypushenko: pls let us know your thoughts19:49
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catherineD|2andrey-mp: this is the exact reason why I think result should be assocciate to product_id and not product_ref_id19:49
andrey-mpwith such thoughts - association is possible only in RefStack UI19:50
catherineD|2andrey-mp: user upload their result and determine the product they want the result to associate to19:50
andrey-mpin this case we should re-think use cases about Cloud ID detection19:50
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sslypushenkoidea to upload raw results using refstack-client looks like a working temporary solution but it breaks the idea of RefStack as an origin of truth19:51
andrey-mpsslypushenko: +10019:51
catherineD|2Cloud ( identified by CloudID) is an instance of a product .. product is unique19:51
sslypushenkosubunit test results does not contain any kind on cloud identity - and it is a main issue here19:52
andrey-mpcatherineD|2: cloud can be built from several products19:52
andrey-mpbut it doesn't describe what is CloudID19:53
catherineD|2sslypushenko: that is a request from hogepodge:   to allow vendor to use the results from their CI run19:53
sslypushenkocatherineD|2:  I know... unfortunately it is also a workaround not a soulution19:53
sslypushenko*solution19:53
catherineD|2sslypushenko: and since that is our mission (as we describe in our mission statement) we have to honor that ..19:54
catherineD|2sslypushenko: I understand ..19:54
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sslypushenkowe need to provide kind of tool for signing test results. This tool should be small and safe to run as a part of internal ci pipeline19:55
catherineD|2sslypushenko: ++19:56
andrey-mphow it can work/19:56
catherineD|2we thought that we can rely on honor system ... but this thought is being challenge right now19:56
sslypushenkoThan we can assume that these test results was produced by cloud with specified CPID19:56
andrey-mpquestion about what is the CloudID still present )19:57
sslypushenkocatherineD|2:  I'd like to rely on some peace of code besides honor)19:57
catherineD|2andrey-mp: good question ... at this point cloudid is just a number19:58
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catherineD|2even that we can get it from a cloud it is not perfect ...19:58
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catherineD|2let's think about this some more19:59
catherineD|2meanwhile please review      Replace run_tempest.sh script with ostestr command  (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329691/ )20:00
catherineD|2need to end the meeting ...20:00
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catherineD|2thank you all20:00
catherineD|2#endmeeting20:00
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