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| number80 | hello | 13:00 |
| jpena | o/ | 13:01 |
| number80 | just 5s to retrieve meeting script | 13:01 |
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| dirk | #startmeeting toabctl, dirk, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jruzicka, number80: courtesy ping | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 7 13:01:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: toabctl, dirk, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jruzicka, number80: courtesy ping)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'toabctl__dirk__aplanas__igoryozhikov__jruzicka__number80__courtesy_ping' | 13:01 |
| number80 | dirk: thanks | 13:01 |
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| dirk | argh | 13:02 |
| dirk | #endmeeting | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 7 13:02:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/toabctl__dirk__aplanas__igoryozhikov__jruzicka__number80__courtesy_ping/2016/toabctl__dirk__aplanas__igoryozhikov__jruzicka__number80__courtesy_ping.2016-07-07-13.01.html | 13:02 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/toabctl__dirk__aplanas__igoryozhikov__jruzicka__number80__courtesy_ping/2016/toabctl__dirk__aplanas__igoryozhikov__jruzicka__number80__courtesy_ping.2016-07-07-13.01.txt | 13:02 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/toabctl__dirk__aplanas__igoryozhikov__jruzicka__number80__courtesy_ping/2016/toabctl__dirk__aplanas__igoryozhikov__jruzicka__number80__courtesy_ping.2016-07-07-13.01.log.html | 13:02 |
| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 7 13:02:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:02 |
| * dirk hates copy&paste | 13:02 | |
| number80 | dirk: #meetingname to fix meeting title :) | 13:02 |
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| number80 | (and chair few more people so they could use meetbot commands) | 13:02 |
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| toabctl | hey | 13:03 |
| jruzicka | o/ | 13:03 |
| dirk | I can do that | 13:03 |
| dirk | #addchair number80 toabctl | 13:03 |
| dirk | #addchair number80 toabctl IgorYozhikov | 13:03 |
| dirk | hmm, maybe not | 13:04 |
| dirk | I'll read the documentation | 13:04 |
| dirk | #addchair number80 | 13:04 |
| jpena | dir, use #chair | 13:04 |
| jpena | dirk :o) | 13:04 |
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| number80 | I'll update the etherpad to add a meeting script | 13:05 |
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| dirk | everyone, please update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging for agenda items that you want to discuss | 13:05 |
| dirk | #chair number80 | 13:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dirk number80 | 13:07 |
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| dirk | #chair toabctl | 13:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dirk number80 toabctl | 13:07 |
| dirk | jpena: thanks | 13:07 |
| dirk | that seems to work | 13:07 |
| number80 | astsmtl: could you add a topic about Fuel CI gate status? | 13:07 |
| dirk | #topic please update agenda | 13:07 |
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| astsmtl | Yes. | 13:07 |
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| number80 | thank you sir | 13:08 |
| toabctl | astsmtl, wrong date | 13:08 |
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| toabctl | astsmtl, ah. no. I'm wrong. pardon | 13:08 |
| dirk | toabctl: no, you're wrong :) | 13:08 |
| astsmtl | :) | 13:08 |
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| toabctl | confusing that there are things from the future already :) | 13:09 |
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| toabctl | let's start? | 13:10 |
| number80 | yes | 13:10 |
| * dirk had a network outage | 13:10 | |
| number80 | np | 13:10 |
| dirk | #topic Barcelona summit sessions | 13:10 |
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| number80 | since this summer vacations period, let's start preparing what we want to achieve there | 13:11 |
| number80 | my wishlist would be: fishbowl to determine our goals for ocata (and possibly a common one with deb packaging folks) + work session | 13:12 |
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| number80 | work session could be focused on common gating | 13:12 |
| number80 | like more sanity checks and improved tooling | 13:13 |
| number80 | what do you think? | 13:13 |
| toabctl | sounds good | 13:13 |
| toabctl | I also thought about to submit a talk about our current status and the future goals | 13:13 |
| number80 | looks good | 13:14 |
| dirk | number80: what do you mean by "common gating" ? | 13:14 |
| dirk | toabctl: yeah, might be a good idea. although we're still a lot behind the newton goals :/ | 13:15 |
| toabctl | dirk, yes | 13:16 |
| number80 | dirk: well, 3rd-party gating would be platform-focused, common-gating on quality (e.g rpmlint, testing if we remove/rename packages, etc.) | 13:16 |
| dirk | number80: ah, well, I thought common-gating would be the upstream-build packaging | 13:16 |
| number80 | and also defining a common set of basic testing for 3rd-party gating: installation, showing provides/requires in logs etc... | 13:16 |
| dirk | binary packaging | 13:16 |
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| dirk | which was the goal for newton | 13:17 |
| number80 | dirk: we're not yet there | 13:17 |
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| dirk | true | 13:17 |
| number80 | if we harmonize our gating, then, it will mitigate that and we could move forward faster | 13:17 |
| dirk | anyway, I think we agree on fishbowl (probably together with deb packaging again) +1 work session | 13:18 |
| dirk | do we want more than 1 work session? | 13:18 |
| dirk | we could do two and have one joint one for the deb packaging? | 13:18 |
| number80 | works for me | 13:18 |
| toabctl | +1 | 13:19 |
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| number80 | if we want to save that in summary logs => #agreed one fishbowl (w/ deb packaging folks) + 1 work session | 13:19 |
| dirk | #agreed ask for one fishbowl (possibly joint with packaging-deb) and two work sessions | 13:19 |
| number80 | excellent | 13:19 |
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| number80 | zigo: ^ | 13:19 |
| dirk | afaik there hasn't been a roundcall for the design summit planning yet | 13:19 |
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| number80 | dirk: yes, but as soon as it comes out, we'd be ready to do that | 13:20 |
| dirk | number80: yep, thanks for thinking about this early | 13:20 |
| dirk | do we want to put the common package building thing on the agenda for next week? | 13:20 |
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| toabctl | sure. we can postpone it if we want | 13:21 |
| dirk | ok, just added it | 13:21 |
| dirk | #topic RDO based gate | 13:21 |
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| number80 | Yes | 13:21 |
| number80 | jpena: ^ | 13:21 |
| jpena | we're making good progress here, the reviews during this week helped a lot -> http://209.132.178.209/repos/status_report.html | 13:22 |
| jpena | right now, we have 2 packages waiting for a new pymod2pkg release | 13:22 |
| jpena | python-keystoneclient will be fixed in the next round | 13:22 |
| jpena | and just oslo.cache and bareon would need some action on our side. | 13:23 |
| number80 | toabctl: btw, toabctl since you merged the latest review, we're good for a release from my PoV | 13:23 |
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| jpena | number80: about oslo.cache, we need a newer pytz somewhere, that's where it is failing atm | 13:23 |
| number80 | jpena: well, my fault then :) | 13:23 |
| toabctl | dirk, I think you know where to commit to get a new pymod2pkg release, right? | 13:23 |
| jpena | it doesn't fail in RDO because we rm test-requirements.txt in the spec | 13:23 |
| number80 | i'll fix it today | 13:23 |
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| dirk | is the fix for pymod2pkg already in git? | 13:24 |
| dirk | I can get a new release created | 13:24 |
| number80 | dirk, toabctl: if it's openstack standard release process, then, I can try (wants to learn how to do it) | 13:24 |
| toabctl | number80, go ahead! | 13:25 |
| number80 | Thanks, I'll ping Dirk if I have any issue | 13:25 |
| toabctl | number80, maybe you can add me as reviewer so I know how it works | 13:25 |
| number80 | #action number80 sends review for pymod2pkg release | 13:25 |
| number80 | toabctl: sure | 13:25 |
| dirk | number80: just send a review against openstack/releases file deliverables/_independent/pymod2pkg.yaml | 13:25 |
| dirk | number80: add a new release entry there with a new version+hash | 13:26 |
| number80 | dirk: ack | 13:26 |
| dirk | e.g. 0.4.1 or 0.5.0 | 13:26 |
| dirk | not sure which version number we want to pick | 13:26 |
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| number80 | dirk: could be a 0.5.0 since there's additional feature (RegexRule) | 13:26 |
| number80 | definitions-only releases should be patch versions | 13:26 |
| dirk | works for me | 13:26 |
| number80 | #agreed release pymod2pkg 0.5.0 | 13:27 |
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| dirk | number80: just to understand this correctly, this is delorean (aka using the daily git snapshot with our spec teamplates)? | 13:28 |
| dirk | s,daily,current, | 13:28 |
| jpena | dirk: yes | 13:28 |
| dirk | so you're not trying to build the release that is mentioned in the .spec.j2 Version / source: line | 13:28 |
| dirk | ? | 13:28 |
| number80 | dirk: yes, but it will use tags in a future update of dlrn | 13:28 |
| number80 | (jpena is working on that) | 13:29 |
| dirk | or is there also a build bot that builds the version we've packaged ? | 13:29 |
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| dirk | e.g. fetching the tarball from the Source0 line and building that one? | 13:29 |
| number80 | I guess we'll have both modes in the ned | 13:29 |
| number80 | building packaged version + trying to build stable branches HEAD | 13:29 |
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| dirk | would be great to have that 2nd mode added as a 3rd party gate | 13:30 |
| number80 | Yup | 13:30 |
| dirk | ok, thanks for the update and all the work on this. anything else on that topic? | 13:30 |
| * number80 is good | 13:30 | |
| dirk | #topic RPM Packaging mascot | 13:30 |
| jpena | nothing to add | 13:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RPM Packaging mascot (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:30 | |
| dirk | so, summary in two sentences | 13:31 |
| dirk | OpenStack foundation would like to promote Big Tent projects like ours better and would like to hire a designer to create a perfectly looking logo for the project | 13:31 |
| dirk | Packaging-rpm is one of those projects they want to work with. they would like to get our input on providing an idea for a mascot by July 27th | 13:32 |
| dirk | this will be announced in a bigger round somewhen next week or the week after | 13:32 |
| dirk | any idea what we should be picking? | 13:32 |
| number80 | I have few ideas | 13:33 |
| dirk | the mascot can be anything from the natural world—an animal, fish, plant, or natural feature such as a mountain or waterfal | 13:33 |
| dirk | it should not be something that is used by another company or project already under the big tent | 13:33 |
| number80 | http://i.makeagif.com/media/10-09-2014/UOywGe.gif | 13:33 |
| dirk | lol | 13:33 |
| toabctl | hehe | 13:33 |
| number80 | well, I guess we won't be running out of ideas :) | 13:34 |
| toabctl | dirk, do you collect the ideas? should be create an etherpad? | 13:34 |
| astsmtl | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f5/5c/b8/f55cb8e59d98a9ddad7df0f1b98e8631.jpg | 13:35 |
| toabctl | :) | 13:35 |
| dirk | toabctl: etherpad is probably a good idea | 13:36 |
| dirk | should we just use a section in the current one or create a new one? | 13:37 |
| astsmtl | On serious note, it probably can be OpenStack logo sticking out of the box? | 13:37 |
| dirk | yeah, I was thinking about a bottled openstack logo | 13:37 |
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| dirk | or something like that | 13:37 |
| astsmtl | Or more spicifically, RPM box | 13:37 |
| number80 | ativelkov: kittens :> | 13:37 |
| toabctl | dirk, new etherpad imo. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging-logo-ideas | 13:37 |
| dirk | I don't know if that complies to the openstack logo trademark guidelines though :) | 13:38 |
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| jruzicka | kitten in a box? :D | 13:38 |
| dirk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging-logo-ideas | 13:38 |
| number80 | well, we can ask RPM project | 13:38 |
| dirk | #action all please submit logo ideas to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging-logo-ideas | 13:38 |
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| dirk | I add this to the agenda for next week | 13:39 |
| dirk | #topic Fuel CI gate status | 13:39 |
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| astsmtl | Well, I can't say much atm. | 13:40 |
| astsmtl | Except that you say it's broken, and I promised to fix it. :) | 13:40 |
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| astsmtl | I'm not the author of this CI, but I can debug and submit fixes. | 13:40 |
| toabctl | astsmtl, I haven't looked into the logs. maybe it's the same problem for all changesets | 13:40 |
| jpena | astsmtl: I've looked at some failures, and all of them have the same error | 13:41 |
| jpena | "Error: No Package found for python-oslo-utils >= 3.14.0" | 13:41 |
| astsmtl | Should be easy to fix then. | 13:41 |
| jpena | So it looks like the CI does not have the latest oslo.utils package | 13:41 |
| astsmtl | #action astsmtl fix Fuel CI | 13:42 |
| toabctl | astsmtl, thx! | 13:42 |
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| toabctl | next topic? | 13:43 |
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| dirk | #topic ipproute vs iproute2 ? how to handle non-python Requires/BuildRequires | 13:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ipproute vs iproute2 ? how to handle non-python Requires/BuildRequires (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:44 | |
| dirk | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323158/7/openstack/oslo.rootwrap/oslo.rootwrap.spec.j2 | 13:44 |
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| toabctl | number80, if I understand your comment there correctly, you mean that iproute2 (the name) is suse specific? | 13:44 |
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| number80 | toabctl: yes, we just update iproute to latest | 13:45 |
| toabctl | in general I wonder how we want to handle theses different names depending on the used distro. do we want to use macros or create a method in renderspec which can handle it? | 13:45 |
| dirk | toabctl: yeah, our iproute2 is called iproute everywhere else | 13:45 |
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| toabctl | dirk, because the upstream name is iproute2 :) | 13:46 |
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| number80 | toabctl: I don't mind here using a %distro specific conditionals until we figure out a better way | 13:46 |
| dirk | toabctl: so I think in this case we can just add an %else blocka nd move on | 13:46 |
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| dirk | when it gets complicated and repetitive (e.g. iproute2 in 200 spec files) we should add a substitution to renderspec that deals with it | 13:47 |
| dirk | imho lets revisit this if its a more-than-once issue | 13:47 |
| toabctl | ok | 13:47 |
| toabctl | #agreed use macros to handle iproute vs iproute2 package name | 13:47 |
| dirk | any concerns about that? | 13:47 |
| toabctl | ups. agreed to early? | 13:47 |
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| dirk | doesn't look like | 13:48 |
| dirk | ok | 13:48 |
| dirk | #topic update of our *-requirements.txt files | 13:48 |
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| dirk | I guess the short answer is: still on my todo.. somewhere | 13:49 |
| toabctl | ok | 13:49 |
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| toabctl | we could update it manually for now I guess | 13:49 |
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| toabctl | next topic then. | 13:49 |
| toabctl | running out of time. | 13:49 |
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| astsmtl | dirk | 13:51 |
| dirk | #topic packages reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open ) | 13:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "packages reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open ) (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:51 | |
| number80 | dirk: a minor nitpick for oslo.versioned, could you fix it? | 13:52 |
| number80 | otherwise, it's +2 for me | 13:52 |
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| number80 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331548/ | 13:52 |
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| toabctl | number80, this needs a lint fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333197/ | 13:53 |
| dirk | number80: yep, will do after the meeting | 13:53 |
| toabctl | dirk, this one a rebase : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333831/ | 13:53 |
| number80 | toabctl: yes, it's the next one on my list :) | 13:53 |
| number80 | Is Mikhail Ivanov here? | 13:53 |
| toabctl | I updated the cinder and glance client packages from Mikhail | 13:53 |
| number80 | Yes, I'd like him to focus on some reviews, he was not very responsive | 13:54 |
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| astsmtl | I can invite him or pass any info. | 13:54 |
| toabctl | yeah. for the clients there was no progress for 2 month | 13:54 |
| dirk | toabctl: done :) | 13:54 |
| toabctl | but I think they are now ready to be merged (when the fuel CI passes) | 13:54 |
| number80 | astsmtl: well, I prefer newcomers to focus on small numbers of reviews and work to get them approved | 13:55 |
| astsmtl | Misha is going to join us. | 13:55 |
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| number80 | hi mivanov | 13:55 |
| mivanov | hi | 13:55 |
| dirk | hey mivanov | 13:55 |
| toabctl | hey | 13:55 |
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| mivanov | hi folks | 13:56 |
| number80 | as I was saying, I'd like you to focus on one/two reviews to get them approved | 13:56 |
| mivanov | are you talking about my patches? | 13:56 |
| number80 | Yes | 13:56 |
| toabctl | mivanov, about the patches from https://review.openstack.org/#/q/(project:openstack/rpm-packaging+OR+openstack/renderspec+OR+openstack/pymod2pkg)+AND+is:open | 13:57 |
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| mivanov | okay, I've update this review asap | 13:57 |
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| number80 | thank you | 13:58 |
| toabctl | thx | 13:58 |
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| mivanov | no problem, folks. thank you for reminding :) | 13:58 |
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| toabctl | ok. I guess we have to move to #openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:59 |
| dirk | yeah | 14:00 |
| astsmtl | #action mivanov update CRs, strive to merge. | 14:00 |
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| dirk | lets continue with reviews there | 14:00 |
| dirk | thanks! | 14:00 |
| dirk | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 7 14:00:18 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-07-07-13.02.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-07-07-13.02.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-07-07-13.02.log.html | 14:00 |
| number80 | thank you guys | 14:00 |
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| m3m0 | #startmeeting freezer | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 7 14:00:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is m3m0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 14:01 |
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| yangyapeng | hello | 14:01 |
| domhnallw | Howdy. | 14:01 |
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| m3m0 | hello, who's here for the freezer metting | 14:01 |
| timothyb89 | hello all | 14:01 |
| * domhnallw is here | 14:01 | |
| yangyapeng | :) | 14:01 |
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| slashme | o/ | 14:02 |
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| m3m0 | daemontool you here? | 14:02 |
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| domhnallw | He was in #openstack-freezer a few minutes ago... | 14:02 |
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| daemontool | o/ | 14:02 |
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| ddieterly | o/ | 14:03 |
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| m3m0 | ok let's start | 14:04 |
| m3m0 | #topic Improve the volumes backup through the Cinder APIs (i.e retention, delete, list backups, metadata) (domhnallw: pulled from last weeks' agenda) | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Improve the volumes backup through the Cinder APIs (i.e retention, delete, list backups, metadata) (domhnallw: pulled from last weeks' agenda) (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:04 | |
| m3m0 | who proposed this? | 14:04 |
| daemontool | I think yangyapeng | 14:04 |
| daemontool | ? | 14:04 |
| daemontool | that totally make sense | 14:05 |
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| yangyapeng | hn | 14:05 |
| domhnallw | Yep, think so. I just did a copy pasta :) | 14:05 |
| yangyapeng | we use freezer to manage cinder through Cinder APIs | 14:05 |
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| yangyapeng | cinder backup, delete, restore and so on . | 14:06 |
| yangyapeng | ping iceyao_ | 14:06 |
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| daemontool | anyone is against improving the way we wrap the cinder API for volumes baas? | 14:06 |
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| daemontool | slashme, ping | 14:07 |
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| slashme | No problem for me. | 14:07 |
| yangyapeng | :) | 14:07 |
| daemontool | yangyapeng, iceyao_ do you want to work on that? | 14:07 |
| yangyapeng | yeah | 14:07 |
| slashme | The retention part would definilty be usefull | 14:07 |
| daemontool | can you implement 1 API enpoint wrap at the time? | 14:08 |
| yangyapeng | yeah we can. | 14:08 |
| iceyao_ | I'm gald to | 14:08 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:08 |
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| daemontool | can you add a basic delivery sequence in the freezer-specs repo | 14:08 |
| daemontool | ? | 14:08 |
| daemontool | like: 1) list backup, we to x y z, 2) metadata we save this xzv, 3) retention.... | 14:09 |
| daemontool | ok? | 14:09 |
| daemontool | very schematic | 14:09 |
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| daemontool | no paralysis anlysis if possible :) | 14:09 |
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| daemontool | sounds good? | 14:10 |
| yangyapeng | ping ceyao_ | 14:10 |
| yangyapeng | iceyao_: | 14:11 |
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| yangyapeng | you can take a commit next time. | 14:11 |
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| daemontool | ok | 14:12 |
| daemontool | next? | 14:12 |
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| daemontool | unless anyone has anything on say about that | 14:12 |
| yangyapeng | thanks | 14:12 |
| m3m0 | #topic Add support for file storage (Manila) (domhnallw: pulled from last weeks' agenda) | 14:13 |
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| daemontool | I added this last time | 14:13 |
| daemontool | I think Manila soon will get way more relevance in OS | 14:14 |
| daemontool | it would be one storage media more | 14:14 |
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| daemontool | is anyone interested? | 14:15 |
| liudan | ping yangyapeng | 14:15 |
| daemontool | anyone thing it can be a priority? | 14:15 |
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| slashme | I don't see it as a priority | 14:16 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:16 |
| iceyao_ | +1 | 14:16 |
| slashme | Rather a nice-to-have feature | 14:16 |
| daemontool | then disregard it | 14:16 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:16 |
| yangyapeng | now ,we need to do it manila ? | 14:16 |
| slashme | This is also something easier to integrate later when the agent refactoring is completed | 14:16 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:17 |
| daemontool | next | 14:17 |
| m3m0 | #topic Midcycle meetup 15 of July | 14:17 |
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| m3m0 | next week is the mid cycle meetup | 14:17 |
| m3m0 | do we have an agenda? | 14:17 |
| m3m0 | link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_midcycle_meetup_newton | 14:18 |
| m3m0 | please review it | 14:18 |
| m3m0 | and add/remove topics accordingly | 14:18 |
| m3m0 | please let us know who propose changes | 14:19 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:20 |
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| m3m0 | can we move then? or should we discuss this ? | 14:20 |
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| daemontool | next | 14:21 |
| m3m0 | #topic Feedback from the Business | 14:22 |
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| daemontool | ok, I've added the last 2 topics | 14:22 |
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| daemontool | yesterday I had a very contructive conversation | 14:22 |
| daemontool | with ATT | 14:23 |
| daemontool | and basically they are evaluating | 14:23 |
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| daemontool | to use freezer or not in their production environments, allocating people etc | 14:23 |
| daemontool | so they are concerned about the fact that we supports only tar | 14:24 |
| daemontool | that also the deduplication was another point | 14:24 |
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| daemontool | the feedback was about also thinking of developing an additional component | 14:25 |
| daemontool | for the storage | 14:25 |
| daemontool | like the other enterprise solutions provide | 14:25 |
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| daemontool | to keep track of changed blocks, hash tables, etc etc | 14:25 |
| daemontool | the positive feedback was about elasticsearch | 14:25 |
| daemontool | it wasn't much welcome the idea of moving to mysql | 14:26 |
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| daemontool | the other poi of discussion was | 14:26 |
| daemontool | about how to do backup, without moving the data form the back end storage, then process it and removing it to the storage again | 14:27 |
| daemontool | as it is highly inefficient | 14:27 |
| daemontool | one other point was the delay | 14:27 |
| daemontool | of executions of jobs by the scheduler/agent | 14:27 |
| daemontool | if we could find a way to reduce that delay to the minimum, it would be a big plus | 14:28 |
| daemontool | also | 14:28 |
| daemontool | they need a more advanced way for inclusion and exclusion | 14:28 |
| daemontool | of files in the fs | 14:28 |
| daemontool | when executing backups | 14:28 |
| slashme | +1 on the last point | 14:28 |
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| daemontool | honestly, I think all the points are valid | 14:29 |
| daemontool | IMHO | 14:29 |
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| daemontool | thoughts? | 14:29 |
| daemontool | what do you think? :) | 14:29 |
| slashme | I also agree. Some with higher priority though | 14:29 |
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| daemontool | DR wasn't covered | 14:29 |
| daemontool | by there should be another conversation about it | 14:30 |
| daemontool | sooner than later | 14:30 |
| daemontool | adding engines should be easier than it is now | 14:30 |
| slashme | That's our goal | 14:30 |
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| slashme | Ease the process of adding new engines, backends, snapshot mechanism | 14:31 |
| daemontool | ah | 14:31 |
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| slashme | As well as integrating with application (not only for backup but also for restore) | 14:31 |
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| daemontool | also the windows GUI was another point of discussion | 14:31 |
| daemontool | as they most probably wants to try to reduce costs | 14:31 |
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| daemontool | not a strong point thought, but a nice to have | 14:32 |
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| daemontool | the strong point was about | 14:32 |
| daemontool | engine | 14:32 |
| daemontool | and backend&dedup | 14:32 |
| domhnallw | A Windows GUI? | 14:32 |
| daemontool | yes | 14:32 |
| daemontool | but let's not talk about that now please | 14:32 |
| daemontool | it's more a business related thing | 14:32 |
| domhnallw | Okay. | 14:32 |
| daemontool | we can talk about it offline | 14:32 |
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| daemontool | :) | 14:33 |
| daemontool | so | 14:33 |
| daemontool | at some point | 14:33 |
| daemontool | as they are quite good writing C doe | 14:33 |
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| daemontool | code | 14:33 |
| daemontool | there was the idea | 14:33 |
| daemontool | of using a backend with zfs, that can export the changed blocks hashtable | 14:33 |
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| daemontool | then a component of freezer | 14:33 |
| daemontool | on top of that | 14:34 |
| daemontool | that interact with the agent | 14:34 |
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| daemontool | for dedup/incrementals | 14:34 |
| daemontool | so these was basically the conversation | 14:34 |
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| m3m0 | so, are they going to contribute soon? :) | 14:36 |
| daemontool | they are evaluating | 14:37 |
| daemontool | with us | 14:37 |
| daemontool | netbackup, avamar | 14:37 |
| daemontool | and someone more | 14:37 |
| daemontool | can-t remember | 14:37 |
| daemontool | If they see potential, they will | 14:37 |
| m3m0 | that could be great :) | 14:37 |
| daemontool | I think that would make big difference | 14:38 |
| daemontool | because their production environment | 14:38 |
| daemontool | are huge | 14:38 |
| daemontool | the requirements will be challening | 14:38 |
| daemontool | but the solution will be way more advanced | 14:38 |
| daemontool | also | 14:38 |
| daemontool | in Ericsson | 14:38 |
| daemontool | there's a test in the lab | 14:39 |
| daemontool | to evaluate it | 14:39 |
| daemontool | so expext that 2 engineers | 14:39 |
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| daemontool | will be around here | 14:39 |
| daemontool | starting from next week | 14:39 |
| daemontool | mostly working on docs | 14:39 |
| daemontool | and tests | 14:39 |
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| daemontool | that is confirmed | 14:39 |
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| domhnallw | Sounds good. | 14:39 |
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| daemontool | yes we need moe people | 14:40 |
| daemontool | that's all from me | 14:40 |
| m3m0 | thanks a lot, we will help the new guys with everything they need | 14:40 |
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| m3m0 | can we move forward? | 14:41 |
| daemontool | yes | 14:41 |
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| m3m0 | #topic Pending Reviews | 14:42 |
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| m3m0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329671/ (closes #1592046) | 14:42 |
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| m3m0 | any more reviews? | 14:45 |
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| m3m0 | can we close the meeting then? | 14:46 |
| slashme | I think so. Thank you m3m0. | 14:47 |
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| domhnallw | Thanks. | 14:47 |
| m3m0 | thanks all :) | 14:47 |
| m3m0 | #endmeeting | 14:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 7 14:47:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-07-07-14.00.html | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-07-07-14.00.txt | 14:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-07-07-14.00.log.html | 14:47 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 7 15:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
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| jseiler | hi | 15:00 |
| MikeG451 | Hi | 15:00 |
| zhongjun_ | hello | 15:00 |
| xyang | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | it's a small group today | 15:00 |
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| vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
| bswartz | most of us in the USA are on vacation | 15:01 |
| vkmc | hi hi | 15:01 |
| aovchinnikov | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | hi vkmc | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | so we have a short agenda | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic N-2 milestone | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "N-2 milestone (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| bswartz | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | we'll be cutting the N-2 milestone middle of next week | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | the list of blueprints on launchpad is not entirely accurate | 15:02 |
| bswartz | I'd like to ask for your help if you know of BPs which should be targeted | 15:02 |
| bswartz | send them to me and I'll target them | 15:03 |
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| mkoderer__ | hello | 15:03 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:03 |
| bswartz | as usual, we aim to cut the milestone on tuesday, but will slip to wednesday or thursday if there's something we want included that needs another day or two | 15:04 |
| mkoderer__ | bswartz: this needs to get targeted https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manila-hpb-support | 15:04 |
| bswartz | I'll also remind everyone of the "major feature" deadline, which is actually the week after next | 15:04 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: major feature proposal deadline? or merge deadline? | 15:05 |
| bswartz | proposal | 15:05 |
| xyang | bswartz: does that includes client side patch as well? | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | as announced at the start of newton, "major features" need to be proposed by Thursday of R-11 (July 21) | 15:06 |
| mkoderer__ | bswartz: hows the process.. once a spec is merged it will be trageted by you? | 15:06 |
| zhongjun_ | before july 15? | 15:06 |
| bswartz | mkoderer__: as we discussed last week, that process isn't defined yet | 15:07 |
| bswartz | we still treat BPs and specs independently | 15:07 |
| mkoderer__ | bswartz: ok sry wasn't available last week | 15:07 |
| bswartz | so I'll target BPs to the milestone as needed | 15:07 |
| mkoderer__ | ok | 15:07 |
| bswartz | xyang: all of the code should be up for review by the deadline | 15:07 |
| xyang | bswartz: ok | 15:08 |
| bswartz | it doesn't need to be 100% bug free, but it should be reviewable | 15:08 |
| ganso | but it should be passing jenkins and include unit tests, right? | 15:08 |
| bswartz | the point of the major feature deadline is so that us reviewers can take a look at big things can provide feedback before the feature freeze crunch | 15:08 |
| ganso | tempests tests as well, if applicable, I presume | 15:08 |
| bswartz | ganso: ideally yes, but that's less important for major features | 15:08 |
| bswartz | for the final FPF deadline (R-7) yes you do need unit tests and passing jenkins | 15:09 |
| bswartz | ganso: again the point is that reviewers should be able to start their job of reviewing the design and implemetnation of the feature | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | any other questions concerns about N-2 or the major feature proposal deadline? | 15:11 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:11 | |
| bswartz | any other topics for this week? | 15:11 |
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| mkoderer__ | bswartz: can we talk about merging / testing docker and hpb feature? | 15:12 |
| mkoderer__ | bascially hpb needs the container driver to start working on testing | 15:12 |
| bswartz | mkoderer__: as far as I'm concerned they were ready for merge last week | 15:12 |
| aovchinnikov | and the container driver needs some attention from reviewers | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | I've just been mostly AFK this week due to my vacation | 15:13 |
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| mkoderer__ | aovchinnikov: ok I will review it | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | mkoderer__: your BP is updated | 15:13 |
| mkoderer__ | ok so can we get reviews on those patches | 15:14 |
| bswartz | any other BPs that need updating please send me PMs or emails | 15:14 |
| aovchinnikov | mkoderer__: great! | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | again I'm mostly AFK but I do check these things | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | okay this was a nice and short meeting | 15:14 |
| tbarron | if anyone here is interested (or knows anyone interested) in using etcd as tooz backend please ping me | 15:14 |
| mkoderer__ | first patch for hpb is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283494/ and this one can be tested in tempest when we have the container driver | 15:14 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone | 15:15 |
| tbarron | don't need to talk about it here, but wanted to ask while there's attention | 15:15 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 7 15:15:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:15 |
| mkoderer__ | tbarron: I am intressted in tooz.. let's have a discussion offline | 15:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-07-07-15.00.html | 15:15 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-07-07-15.00.txt | 15:15 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-07-07-15.00.log.html | 15:15 |
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| toabctl | thx | 15:15 |
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| toabctl | bswartz, nice vacation! | 15:15 |
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| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 7 17:00:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| unrahul | o/ | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:00 |
| browne | o/ | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | #chair hyakuhei | 17:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hyakuhei tmcpeak | 17:00 |
| lhinds | hi all | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | weee] | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | hey all! | 17:00 |
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| elmiko | ( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | Tough crowd tmcpeak :P | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | :D | 17:01 |
| lhinds | I might have to duck out early, so I put the two OSSNs in etherpad | 17:02 |
| * mhayden wanders in | 17:02 | |
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| hyakuhei | thanks lhinds | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | awesome, thank you lhinds | 17:02 |
| lhinds | np | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | we've got serious business today… we need to pick a mascot :P | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Dude you added all the authors ? wow | 17:03 |
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| tmcpeak | lhinds is a beast! | 17:03 |
| aastha | o/ | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah, lets leave that till towards the end because I see it taking the whole meeting tmcpeak :P | 17:03 |
| lhinds | hyakuhei: got to be up early to catch me out :P | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | haha yeah, does seem rathole worthy | 17:03 |
| lhinds | or whatever the saying is (that sounded wrong) | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | lol I think there’s a few in there where my name is spelled wrong | 17:04 |
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| tmcpeak | that sounds like a Taylor Swift jingle lhinds | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | “Nathan Kinder” is a terrible way to spell my name :P | 17:04 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:04 |
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| tmcpeak | LGTM, ship it | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | However this must have taken an epic amount of digging and I’m really thankful to you lhinds | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | I’ll review | 17:04 |
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| lhinds | ahh yeah, so some of them may well be wrong, it was hard to know as I could not find the review | 17:04 |
| browne | should the author have the company they work for now, or when the OSSN was written? | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah for sure! | 17:04 |
| lhinds | add them to the launchpad and I will amend | 17:05 |
| mhayden | hyakuhei: nice work, nathan | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | browne probably where they worked at the time | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | lol | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | “Author: Unknown” | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus | o/ (sorry I'm late) | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | We probably need to fix that too hehe | 17:05 |
| browne | tmcpeak: oh, that'll be harder and probably this patch needs edits then | 17:05 |
| lhinds | hyakuhei: the very first one, I think it was heartbleed? | 17:05 |
| gmurphy | sorry is there a link to the etherpad that i missed or is this a review? | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | everybody edit your own then :) | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | gmurphy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337627/1 | 17:05 |
| * gmurphy finds it just then | 17:06 | |
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| lhinds | ok, I got to dash, please amened to launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1599064 | 17:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1599064 in OpenStack Security Notes "Add Author to Meta Data of Security Notes" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Luke Hinds (lhinds) | 17:06 |
| elmiko | good stuff lhinds, ++ | 17:06 |
| lhinds | *amend | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | cheers lhinds | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | lhinds: amend or add comments in reviews? | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | thanks for doing this all! | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | huge effort, we really appreciate it | 17:06 |
| qwebirc57930 | hi I have a question. I am a university student and I configured barbicab with cinder and nova for Volume encryption. i'm trying to understand how key rotation work but i can't find usefull information. is it possible to rotate the key(s) used to encrypt the volume? how it works?can I set yearly rotation schedule? | 17:06 |
| lhinds | I will amend, make a comment in gerrit or lp, I don't mind | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Righto | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | qwebirc57930: You might want to try #openstack-barbican | 17:07 |
| elmiko | qwebirc57930: we are holding a meeting for the security project currently, you might want to ask that in openstack-dev or openstack-barbican | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: The enforcer :D | 17:08 |
| elmiko | lol! | 17:08 |
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| tmcpeak | "which company did I work for when I wrote note xyz…" | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah, I’m not as worried about that | 17:09 |
| lhinds | just don't hassle me over the HP / HPE stuff :P | 17:09 |
| lhinds | ok, I am gone | 17:09 |
| * gmurphy will review | 17:09 | |
| tmcpeak | haha | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | oh god I forgot about that mess | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | later lhinds | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | forget it, that should all be HPE | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | the company that is now HP didn't do any OpenStack stuff | 17:09 |
| gmurphy | also didn't a bunch of people contribute to some during a midcycle? | 17:10 |
| elmiko | maybe just put HP.* ? | 17:10 |
| gmurphy | do we care about that? | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko: lol | 17:10 |
| gmurphy | lol HP* | 17:10 |
| mhayden | HP(E)? | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | gmurphy: yeah, multiple authors should be listed if applicable | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | That’s what the review process is for :) | 17:10 |
| gmurphy | yeah. | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | It’s in Gerrit, opensource b*tches | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | ^ Standard OpenStack response to defects. | 17:11 |
| elmiko | LOL | 17:11 |
| mhayden | elmiko: just use ▭ | 17:11 |
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| hyakuhei | ok so back to the agenda, lets start from the top #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Syntribos | 17:11 |
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| hyakuhei | Any shiny newness this week? | 17:11 |
| unrahul | Hey all I am from the Syntribos team | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | Hey unrahul ! | 17:12 |
| unrahul | yup, after our meeting with Nathan, decided on what to opencafe and transition to oslo config/log | 17:12 |
| unrahul | hey hyakuhei | 17:12 |
| unrahul | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337938/2/ | 17:12 |
| unrahul | this CR deals with some of it and we are hoping to remove opencafe dependencies by mid text week | 17:13 |
| unrahul | I guess thats the major news we have for this week. | 17:13 |
| unrahul | Most of signals code has been merged to the master and finally its not broken :D | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | Cool | 17:14 |
| gmurphy | did you guys see - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/098700.html | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | I know tkelsey took a look at the signals stuff, hopefully that was useful | 17:14 |
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| hyakuhei | hmmm. ugly bug gmurphy but these things happen in young projects | 17:15 |
| unrahul | yeah.. it was broken till ysday, we have fixed it, things should work now.. most of it | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Excellent! | 17:15 |
| unrahul | some of the tests had to refactored... | 17:15 |
| unrahul | thanks hyakuhei ! | 17:15 |
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| unrahul | Thanks gmurphy for the link, I had missed it.. | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | So I learned today that IBM is using Syntribos quite a bit for one of the bigger OpenStack projects we have, it’s wedged into the CI process somewhere. | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | Thought you guys would like to know | 17:16 |
| gmurphy | cool. i just wanted to make sure it got picked up | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:16 |
| elmiko | neat | 17:16 |
| unrahul | whoa thats cool hyakuhei ! | 17:16 |
| gmurphy | awesome | 17:16 |
| unrahul | do you have any further info on that..?? curious as to what they think.. | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | let me try to summon one of the guys working with it | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | I don’t have anything to hand but I’m happy to connect you guys if there’s common ground | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | one sec, edtubill is on the way | 17:17 |
| edtubill | o/ | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | edtubill is one of the folks working with Syntribos | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | weeee ! | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | unrahul: one of the Syntribos devs, very curious about thoughts using it | 17:18 |
| unrahul | it would be really helpful for the project to get early feedback hyakuhei ! | 17:18 |
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| edtubill | Hi, yeah so we have some people who ran Syntribos. I can get feedback from them or have them reach out to you. | 17:18 |
| unrahul | thanks tmcpeak , hey edtubill do you have any feedback on the tool..? | 17:18 |
| unrahul | yup that would helps us a lot, edtubill | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | edtubill: that would be awesome, I know when we were working on Bandit we loved feedback like that | 17:19 |
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| edtubill | cool, I'll let them know. I guess the security irc channel is the best way to reach out? | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | Probably yeah. | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, that sounds good | 17:20 |
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| unrahul | we are in the security channel, | 17:20 |
| unrahul | yup, irc sounds good.. | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | sweet! | 17:20 |
| edtubill | cool. | 17:20 |
| unrahul | ccneill is leading the project from tech side | 17:20 |
| unrahul | and michaelxin is our manager.. | 17:20 |
| unrahul | you could just ask them to contact any of us, ! thanks once again! | 17:21 |
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| edtubill | np! | 17:21 |
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| tmcpeak | sweet | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | anything else for Syntribos? | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | Lets move onto… docs? | 17:21 |
| unrahul | eh.. nop, thats for now !. | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | Unless there’s OSSN things | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | we need reviews for lhinds note | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | I don't have doc +2 anymore | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | one of you guys are going to have to do it | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko, hyakuhei, sicarie | 17:22 |
| elmiko | ack | 17:22 |
| elmiko | the authors one needs a little update from the looks of it, i didn't read the other one yet | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | I’ll review them this evening hopefully, the authors one will require some digging I’m guessing | 17:23 |
| elmiko | yeah | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: same here | 17:23 |
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| tmcpeak | cool | 17:23 |
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| tmcpeak | #topic Docs | 17:24 |
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| elmiko | wwwweeeeellllll | 17:24 |
| elmiko | imo, we need more docs folks | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | yuh, big time | 17:24 |
| sicarie | +1 | 17:24 |
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| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:24 |
| sicarie | my timesuck ends this weekend, so i’ll be back doing docs stuffs | 17:24 |
| elmiko | i'm not sure how we do that, but those are the facts | 17:24 |
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| tmcpeak | should get a crowd funding effort ;) | 17:25 |
| elmiko | sadly, my priorities continue to shift away from openstack :/ | 17:25 |
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| elmiko | tmcpeak++ | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | We need to figure something out, maybe a better way to compartmentalize bits of docs to give people ownership of smaller parts? | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko: I'm sure you aren't the only one | 17:25 |
| gmurphy | i would offer to help but i karn't speel gud | 17:25 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: agreed, that and we need more outreach to the CPLs | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | gmurphy: spelling not required for docs | 17:25 |
| elmiko | ideally, project specialists should be taking on these doc tasks | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | gmurphy: Google translate does Aus->American->English | 17:26 |
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| tmcpeak | elmiko: I don't know if that's realistic though | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | most projects probably don't have enough time to maintain their own docs, huh? | 17:26 |
| elmiko | too bad =( | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | maybe we can deprecate maintenance on portions of the doc | 17:26 |
| elmiko | well, and we had talked in austin about the idea of adding a new governance tag related to security docs. that might help | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | hmmm. WE definintely need to figure something out. elmiko I’m glad you mentioned that | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:27 |
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| elmiko | needs more stick, less carrot ;P | 17:28 |
| sicarie | +1 | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | with shrinking resources I'm not sure how well stick would work either | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | human nature is to fudge things that are in their way | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Yarp | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | I suggest reducing scope | 17:28 |
| elmiko | that's fair, it just adjusts our end goal | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | I presume all the docs people are spread thin | 17:29 |
| elmiko | most likely | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | Not just the sec people? | 17:29 |
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| hyakuhei | Though IIRC the biggest problem was a lack of SME’s ? | 17:29 |
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| sicarie | yeah | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | Not easy to fix. | 17:30 |
| sicarie | Or the ability to get the SME’s to focus on the problem/aging areas | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | well even if we had SMEs, do you guys have the time to speak with them, take their input, and write new content based on it? | 17:30 |
| sicarie | i will after this weekend | 17:30 |
| elmiko | i certainly don't | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | I think there’s good scope for doing another sprint | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | at the midcycle you mean? | 17:31 |
| elmiko | does anyone have a reading on how the foundation feels about quality security docs? | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | Targetting the worst 4-5 areas, getting people in the same place to pair-author some stuff potentially | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: maybe then maybe some other time. Might see if the foundation can help with funding. | 17:31 |
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| hyakuhei | elmiko: They’re paying more attention to security than ever before | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko: yeah, the foundation really wants good security docs AFACT | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | Which is to say, some. | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | AFAICT | 17:32 |
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| sicarie | yeah, apparently when it was being offered in physical copy, the secguide was their best-seller | 17:32 |
| elmiko | well, that's good to hear. i would think that the need for more help in this area should be raised to them. | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | Interesting. Ok. | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | sicarie: elmiko: I’d like us to draft an email (google docs) to send out describing the state of the security docs, where the bottle necks are and presenting the community with a couple of proposals for fixing it, lets get something out on -dev at some point | 17:33 |
| unrahul | if ownership of certain parts of docs is given to different ppl, I feel that would help us in getting ppl up to speed, so that we don't always need experts to always handle it.. | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | Agreed | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:33 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: ++, excellent idea | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | and the move away from docbook has to have lowered the bar significantly in terms of jumping in | 17:34 |
| sicarie | yep! | 17:34 |
| elmiko | oh hell yes | 17:34 |
| unrahul | yup! | 17:34 |
| elmiko | it presents other problems, but barrier to entry is not one | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | ok excellent. So we’ve got an action item | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | Lets move onto the next thing on the agenda | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Midcycle | 17:35 |
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| tmcpeak | I think we have rooms in Austin at IBM and final dates, yes? | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | Dates are now confirmed :) | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | yes and yes | 17:35 |
| unrahul | awesome! | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | sweet | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | I'll start groveling for funding | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | for myself I mean | 17:36 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: is chief groveler | 17:36 |
| unrahul | :D | 17:36 |
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| hyakuhei | :D | 17:36 |
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| tmcpeak | might be useful to start working on an agenda | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | The trick is to grovel upwards | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: For sure | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | to show management how much fun we're going to have | 17:37 |
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| hyakuhei | Though I want to unconference again so proposed topics is where it’s at. | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | next topic? | 17:38 |
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| hyakuhei | yupyup | 17:39 |
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| tmcpeak | #topic TA | 17:39 |
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| tmcpeak | where are we with this? | 17:39 |
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| hyakuhei | Right so, we are at a point where we’ve got some docs | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | and we want the other guys to do more work than us | 17:40 |
| unrahul | eh, what is TA? | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | Largely stalled because of availability issues tbh | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | you know what it is ;) ;) | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | Threat Analysis | 17:40 |
| Guest53547 | Doug Chivers hopes to have something better written up before the midcycle. | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | jk, threat analysis | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | Guest53547: == dg? | 17:40 |
| unrahul | thanks hyakuhei ! | 17:40 |
| Guest53547 | = Bryan Stephenson | 17:41 |
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| Guest53547 | still learning how to IRC | 17:41 |
| Guest53547 | Don't know how to naem myself yet | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | try /name xyz | 17:41 |
| Guest53547 | thanks | 17:41 |
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| hyakuhei | /nick | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | or maybe /nick | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:41 |
| gmurphy | yeah nick | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | I don't know how to IRC either | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | yay IRC. | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:41 |
| Guest53547 | thanks | 17:41 |
| Guest53547 | name and nick don't work | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | ok cool so the short is, Guest53547 and I have under-delivered on TA. | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | We’ll try to fix that | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | ok next up | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Mascot | 17:43 |
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| hyakuhei | OpenStack wants a more cohesive set of logos for OpenStack projects | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | and they don’t like us using the OpenStack logo | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | So they’ve settled on animals | 17:43 |
| gmurphy | .... | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | ... | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | They’ve got a graphic designer who will do the logos for such things | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | So they’ll all have a similar look and feel | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | the kicker is that we can't take anybody else's animal | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:44 |
| Guest53547 | If Bear isn't taken we should take it | 17:44 |
| gmurphy | so..is there a list of animals that are taken? | 17:44 |
| elmiko | honey badger | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | honey badger ++ | 17:44 |
| sicarie | dang, elmiko beat me to it | 17:44 |
| elmiko | hahaha | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:45 |
| browne | tasmanian devil | 17:45 |
| gmurphy | could steal the blowfish from openbsd.. but i wouldn't want theo chasing us about that.. | 17:45 |
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| hyakuhei | Right so I knew you’d all get excited about this | 17:45 |
| elmiko | gmurphy: yeah, that might be painful lol | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | The agenda has a list in it. | 17:45 |
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| * gmurphy reads | 17:45 | |
| tmcpeak | ok so actually: an animal, fish, plant, or natural feature such as a mountain or waterfall | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | ATM it’s a list of one | 17:45 |
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| hyakuhei | Ah ok | 17:45 |
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| hyakuhei | So they hang together by virtue of having a similar look & feel | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | Feel free to suggest something on the agenda #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | and we can vote next week | 17:46 |
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| elmiko | similar to armadillo, pangolin | 17:47 |
| elmiko | better armor, imo | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | wonder if we could do Fort Knox | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | that's kind of "natural feature" ish | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | not | 17:47 |
| elmiko | haha, who put lemming? | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | rofl | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | ok simmer down. We’ll have a vote etc next week | 17:47 |
| * sicarie certainly did not do it | 17:47 | |
| elmiko | so so accurate | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | #topic AOB | 17:48 |
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| hyakuhei | Though I doubt the conversation will move on from animals/features :P | 17:48 |
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| tmcpeak | Armadillo is the natural choice: http://www.factzoo.com/sites/all/img/mammals/pangolin-desert.jpg | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | look at that bad boy | 17:49 |
| elmiko | no no, you said simmer down... | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | very secure | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | actually that's a pangolin, whatever the hell that is | 17:49 |
| elmiko | right, similar to armadillo but better armor ;) | 17:49 |
| gmurphy | what about a turtle.. because we get things done.. eventually… | 17:49 |
| elmiko | haha | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | LOOL | 17:49 |
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| elmiko | or an ostrich with it's head burried in the sand? | 17:50 |
| gmurphy | hah | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | oh man | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:50 |
| browne | sloth | 17:50 |
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| tmcpeak | what's keystone doing? | 17:50 |
| sicarie | and can we submit ours *right* before they do? | 17:51 |
| elmiko | hehe | 17:51 |
| * sicarie is just kidding … kind of | 17:51 | |
| tmcpeak | this Pangolin looks legit | 17:51 |
| elmiko | or, wait till nova does something then copy that ;P | 17:51 |
| stevemar | we haven't decided on one yet :) | 17:51 |
| elmiko | great, we've got time then! | 17:51 |
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| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: as you suspected we aren't moving on… want to call the meeting before people start suggesting even more weak animals for the security project mascot? | 17:53 |
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| elmiko | ooh, the cactus wren https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cactus_wren#/media/File:Cactus_Wren_nesting_1.JPG | 17:53 |
| elmiko | great imagery | 17:53 |
| sicarie | like whatever this thing is? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/81/41/db/8141db7fdbec49d9e54188b8e37bdf6b.jpg | 17:54 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:54 |
| elmiko | hahaha, amazing | 17:54 |
| elmiko | sicarie++ | 17:54 |
| tmcpeak | that looks like one of those things in that stupid 80's horror movie | 17:54 |
| elmiko | gremlins ;) | 17:54 |
| tmcpeak | http://s3.amazonaws.com/digitaltrends-uploads-prod/2015/04/gremlins-gizmo.jpg | 17:54 |
| unrahul | elmiko +1 | 17:55 |
| browne | mogwai | 17:55 |
| browne | gizmo was a mogwai | 17:55 |
| elmiko | i like the idea of just flat out having Gizmo as the mascot | 17:55 |
| elmiko | true | 17:55 |
| tmcpeak | that thing actually looks pretty steezy | 17:55 |
| elmiko | browne gets the full bonus points | 17:55 |
| browne | yes | 17:55 |
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| tmcpeak | you save those bonus points browne… might be a while before you get more :P | 17:56 |
| browne | aww | 17:56 |
| elmiko | hehe | 17:56 |
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| hyakuhei | lol | 17:56 |
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| sicarie | I think it’s time for me to stop googling - i’ve now learned animal mashups are very much a thing | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | Seems like a good time to end the meeting? | 17:57 |
| tmcpeak | only a matter of time before you violate HPE's browsing policy | 17:57 |
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| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:57 |
| gmurphy | lol | 17:57 |
| elmiko | haha, totally | 17:57 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
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| unrahul | hehe. | 17:58 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 7 17:58:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| tmcpeak | thanks everybody! | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-07-07-17.00.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-07-07-17.00.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-07-07-17.00.log.html | 17:58 |
| tmcpeak | have a good week | 17:58 |
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| elmiko | you too tmcpeak ! | 17:58 |
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| gmurphy | laters. | 17:58 |
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| vgridnev | #startmeeting sahara | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 7 18:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:00 | |
| egafford | o/ | 18:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:00 |
| vgridnev | #chair egafford | 18:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: egafford vgridnev | 18:00 |
| elmiko | hi o/ | 18:00 |
| tosky | hi | 18:00 |
| tellesnobrega | o/ | 18:01 |
| vgridnev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:01 |
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| mionkin_ | hi | 18:02 |
| vgridnev | #topic News / updates | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:02 | |
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| vgridnev | my short status: plugins api in UI / some preparations before future newton-2 release (next week) | 18:04 |
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| vgridnev | summit talk preparations also | 18:04 |
| elmiko | not much from me, a couple reviews... sadly, my time is mostly being consumed by non-openstack projects =( | 18:05 |
| mionkin_ | I'm working on designate research and research about heat abilities of designate records creation | 18:05 |
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| tellesnobrega | on my side upgrade to storm 1.0.1 is up, going to review CI patch today. python jobs compatibility with pyleus should go up to review later today or tomorrow as well | 18:06 |
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| egafford | Working on getting the configuration engine for the image gen CLI up and running; should be able to post for review shortly. Also summit talk prep (I owe you and Nikita feedback on the state of Sahara talk, vgridnev, and I'm working on an abstract about the image gen stuff.) | 18:06 |
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| tosky | trying still to fix the sahara CLI tests | 18:06 |
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| vgridnev | nothing else in news? | 18:08 |
| tmckay | I put up a spec/patch for generalizing fp usage, holdover from last cycle. I think we're going to discuss later. Otherwise I have been completely absorbed in a diferent project | 18:08 |
| egafford | tmckay: Yup, thanks. I think tellesnobrega is likely to take that over after his pyleus work. | 18:08 |
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| vgridnev | #Review priorities | 18:08 |
| vgridnev | #topic Review priorities | 18:08 |
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| tmckay | okey doke | 18:09 |
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| tellesnobrega | tmckay, i will ping you if i need guidance on that | 18:09 |
| vgridnev | newton-2 soon, let's concentrate our reviews on things ether pad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-review-priorities | 18:10 |
| tmckay | ack, I was 90 through testing, just needed to verfiy that it doesn't break in a nova net env | 18:10 |
| vgridnev | additionally, there are 3 changes in stable branches, 2 out of them needed to fix CI | 18:11 |
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| vgridnev | nothings else I guess in this topic | 18:11 |
| * egafford will review that queue after the meeting, yeah. | 18:11 | |
| vgridnev | #topic Refactor the logic around use of floating ips in node groups and clusters | 18:12 |
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| vgridnev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336593/ | 18:12 |
| vgridnev | is anyone had a chance to view this spec? | 18:12 |
| tellesnobrega | sadly no, not yet | 18:12 |
| vgridnev | from my opinion it's almost ok, but we need to address issues with proxy nodes | 18:13 |
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| tmckay | the idea is simple. essentially, whether or not fps are used should be settable in each node group, not application wide for all users and all node groups | 18:13 |
| tmckay | this came up when I was experimenting with baremetal using a flat physical network | 18:13 |
| tmckay | I had to change "use_floating_ips" to False and restart sahara to be able to launch baremetal clusters | 18:14 |
| tmckay | got me thinking .... | 18:14 |
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| tmckay | vgridnev, technically I've handled the proxy nodes in the patch, but I agree that I need more words around proxy nodes in the spec for clarity | 18:15 |
| egafford | tmckay: Yeah, I think it looks broadly totally fine. Do you want to update the spec, or have someone take that over? I know you've got some other priorities. | 18:15 |
| tmckay | patch is shallow but broad, since fps are touched all over the place | 18:16 |
| tmckay | egafford, I can update | 18:16 |
| egafford | tmckay: Cool. | 18:16 |
| vgridnev | so, probably additional option to enable proxies that (checked by default) | 18:16 |
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| tmckay | should be today or tomorrow | 18:16 |
| vgridnev | ? | 18:16 |
| tmckay | I think proxies will work as is | 18:16 |
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| tmckay | but, maybe a follow-on spec if we find a use case that needs refinement | 18:17 |
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| vgridnev | ok, seems like we should test that patch, to understand that everything is ok. So, probably I'll ask esickachev to make some tests of that | 18:19 |
| tmckay | agreed, sounds good | 18:20 |
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| vgridnev | ok, thanks tmckay | 18:20 |
| vgridnev | waiting for spec updates | 18:20 |
| vgridnev | #topic Pagination | 18:20 |
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| tmckay | yep | 18:20 |
| vgridnev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336931 | 18:21 |
| egafford | So this is a fairly major breaking change. It's awesome, but breaks all our prior contracts. | 18:21 |
| elmiko | yea, looked mostly good to me. just the question of sorting | 18:22 |
| vgridnev | from my last review there are only some small issues on names of variables | 18:22 |
| elmiko | apparently, i need to read it again ;) | 18:22 |
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| tellesnobrega | i think it seemed mostly good to me as well | 18:23 |
| egafford | Ah, okay, I see. Cool; looks like this is backward compatible. | 18:24 |
| egafford | \o/ | 18:24 |
| vgridnev | sure | 18:24 |
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| vgridnev | I saw that michael already uploaded a changes that implements that, but I have no chance to review that yet | 18:25 |
| * egafford loves the embedded hyperlinks for next and previous. :) | 18:25 | |
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| elmiko | yeah, that's a good choice | 18:26 |
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| vgridnev | elmiko, do we need API v2 progress ? | 18:28 |
| vgridnev | sorry, just missed that | 18:28 |
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| elmiko | i don't think so, but i want to get things moving again | 18:28 |
| elmiko | i plan to look over the work that needs to be done, to see if we can get a plan together | 18:28 |
| elmiko | i'm hopeful i can spend a day next week sorting through things | 18:29 |
| vgridnev | ok, sure | 18:29 |
| elmiko | if possible, i'll put up some patches for the smaller work | 18:29 |
| vgridnev | ok, finally seems there are no major objections on pagination, so I think that we merge that as soon as elmiko and egafford will vote with +2, so moving on | 18:31 |
| vgridnev | #topic Open discussion | 18:31 |
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| elmiko | vgridnev: ack | 18:32 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | vgridnev: I remember we wanted to go over nightly jobs again | 18:33 |
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| vgridnev | sad announcement: sahara ci is absolutely unstable right now, there are some issues with quotas; undeleting heat stack that are hangs in DELETE_IN_PROGRESS and so on | 18:33 |
| vgridnev | NikitaKonovalov, yep | 18:33 |
| NikitaKonovalov | the idea was to move liberty jobs from nightly to something like weekly schedule | 18:34 |
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| vgridnev | and additionally freeze liberty yaml scenarios to avoid testing against stable/liberty in sahara-tests | 18:34 |
| vgridnev | and also, I thinking to make centos7 is default testing point for plugins like cdh and ambari | 18:35 |
| NikitaKonovalov | yes it's very unlikely that we'll need to merge anything to liberty tests | 18:35 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Yeah, centos7 is a sensible default on the centos side, definitely. | 18:35 |
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| egafford | We should be able to bring MapR up to 7 as well, hopefully (it is supported per their matrix.) | 18:37 |
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| vgridnev | egafford, yep, I'll ask maps folks about that | 18:38 |
| vgridnev | http://paste.openstack.org/show/527027/ | 18:38 |
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| vgridnev | so, that is the list of jobs are suppose we will have | 18:39 |
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| tellesnobrega | that seems reasonable enough | 18:40 |
| vgridnev | if mapr supports centos7 we will include that also | 18:41 |
| egafford | tosky: Thoughts on the test list? Seems reasonable. vgridnev: Yeah, +1 to MapR on 7. | 18:41 |
| * tosky checks | 18:41 | |
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| tosky | I agree with moving to centos7 as much as possible | 18:42 |
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| egafford | tosky: "Oh please let's move to CentOS 7 ASAP" seems to be today's theme. :) | 18:43 |
| elmiko | well, centos is kewl =) | 18:43 |
| egafford | elmiko: Oh, centos is awesome. We're just talking 6 vs 7. | 18:43 |
| egafford | Centos 6 is less kewl. | 18:43 |
| elmiko | agreed | 18:44 |
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| vgridnev | seems that there is no objections | 18:45 |
| vgridnev | anything else that we can cover in today meeting? | 18:46 |
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| tmckay | ++ on centos 7 | 18:47 |
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| egafford | Nothing I can think of. | 18:48 |
| tellesnobrega | me neither | 18:48 |
| elmiko | +1 | 18:49 |
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| vgridnev | ok, thanks | 18:50 |
| vgridnev | #endmeeting | 18:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 7 18:50:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-07-07-18.00.html | 18:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-07-07-18.00.txt | 18:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-07-07-18.00.log.html | 18:50 |
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