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| dirk | toabctl, dirk, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jruzicka, number80: ping | 13:01 |
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| jruzicka | dirk, o/ | 13:01 |
| number80 | o/ | 13:01 |
| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 13:01:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:01 |
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| dirk | #chair number80 toabctl | 13:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dirk number80 toabctl | 13:01 |
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| mivanov | hi folks | 13:01 |
| dirk | #topic roll call | 13:01 |
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| dirk | in case anyone has a topic to bring up | 13:03 |
| dirk | please add it to | 13:03 |
| dirk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:03 |
| number80 | please add your name in the etherpad sidebar too | 13:05 |
| number80 | or your name on specific agenda item you've added | 13:05 |
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| dirk | #topic Specs with patches, support by CI. | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs with patches, support by CI. (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:06 | |
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| dirk | so we started this topic last week and postponed | 13:07 |
| dirk | basically question was if we would allow patches to be added to the upstream packaging that fix e.g. build failures or other important things that are needed for packaging a release | 13:07 |
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| dirk | I'm torn between two extremes on this | 13:07 |
| dirk | does anyone have a strong opinion? | 13:07 |
| astsmtl | A must have IMO. | 13:07 |
| number80 | I feel we should not forbid it strictly but it should be discouraged | 13:08 |
| toabctl | hi | 13:08 |
| jruzicka | discourage but it's gonna be needed sooner or later. | 13:08 |
| number80 | if we add patches, then it must be workaround until we get issue fixed upstream | 13:08 |
| astsmtl | I already had 2 CR's which required patching | 13:09 |
| dirk | so what is the policy.. usptream review backports that at least did not get a -2 ? | 13:09 |
| number80 | and no ninja-merge | 13:09 |
| dirk | do we allow downstream patches ? | 13:09 |
| toabctl | astsmtl, for the 2 requirements the workaround was tojust wait for the next release, iirc. right? | 13:09 |
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| astsmtl | In one case - yes. | 13:10 |
| astsmtl | In other we had to disable one test. | 13:10 |
| dirk | toabctl: yeah, currently releases fly in frequenntly. this might stop at some point later in the cycle / in the stable phase | 13:10 |
| astsmtl | And sometimes you can't wait, because it's a dependency. | 13:10 |
| astsmtl | For many other packages. | 13:11 |
| number80 | downstream patches are a possibility but I like to have a proper workflow for patches | 13:11 |
| number80 | jruzicka has good insight on how to do that | 13:11 |
| dirk | so currently at least our external ci has no support for tracking patches | 13:11 |
| number80 | (likely managing them as git patches queue) | 13:11 |
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| jruzicka | yes if have patches we should have a clear workflow | 13:11 |
| dirk | I'd be fine with adding them as separate files alongside of the *.spec.j2 in the rpm packaging tree | 13:12 |
| dirk | and reference them with PatchX: lines in the spec.j2 like usual | 13:12 |
| astsmtl | +1 | 13:12 |
| jruzicka | oh well, that makes it hard to manage the patches which is good since we don't want patches | 13:12 |
| astsmtl | :D | 13:12 |
| number80 | dirk: I'd standardize around %autosetup -S git and enforce that patches are generated from git | 13:12 |
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| jruzicka | anyway, let's start with that and if we end up with a need to manage some patches ourselves, then we can investigate having patches branches | 13:13 |
| number80 | or else, we'll have patches breaking very often | 13:13 |
| number80 | jruzicka: could be a very simple script that git clone repo, import existing patches and then you add your new patches and then re-export | 13:14 |
| number80 | tracking branches is not something we can do quickly at this stage | 13:14 |
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| jruzicka | just in case we need to maintain patches, it makes sense to maintain them in git (as opposed to simple files) | 13:14 |
| number80 | but ack for accepting patches as files for now | 13:15 |
| dirk | number80: well, we don't have a git repo for that, do we ? | 13:15 |
| dirk | %autosetup works also for me | 13:15 |
| number80 | dirk: nope, but this is somethinge we can work out | 13:15 |
| number80 | (not a blocker) | 13:15 |
| astsmtl | Fedore discourages use of VCS in %autosetup: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#.25autosetup | 13:16 |
| number80 | #action number80 work on guidelines for patches management and send review | 13:16 |
| astsmtl | s/Fedore/Fedora | 13:16 |
| jruzicka | yup, +1 for cautiously accepting patches as files | 13:16 |
| number80 | astsmtl: that's a recommendation, not a guideline, I can name few core packages that relies on git | 13:16 |
| dirk | ok, so do we summarize on we allow patches? | 13:17 |
| number80 | *nods* | 13:17 |
| dirk | with or without autosetup? or do we postpone that ont he part when it happens? | 13:17 |
| astsmtl | Ok, I'm in no way affiliated with Fedora, so I'll trust you. :) | 13:17 |
| number80 | astsmtl: well, if it wasn't the case, I'd have this guideline changed :0 | 13:18 |
| number80 | dirk: autosetup to enforce consistency | 13:18 |
| dirk | can you explain? | 13:18 |
| number80 | dirk: %autosetup -S git will fail if you don't use patches generated from git, and git generated patches are easy to rebase (in case, we ship downstream patches, that's useful) | 13:19 |
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| number80 | I don't plan to have any downstream patches but I don't want to enforce that on other targets | 13:20 |
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| dirk | ok | 13:20 |
| number80 | and one advantage for git generated patches: tracking their origin | 13:20 |
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| number80 | we have a script to track technical debt and it can use commit message info to verify if a patch comes from openstack review or not (and votes) | 13:21 |
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| jruzicka | yup, sounds good to me | 13:22 |
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| number80 | (maybe we should just state that patches are ok and move to the next topic) | 13:22 |
| number80 | We can always discuss details during upcoming reviews | 13:23 |
| toabctl | +1 | 13:23 |
| * dirk tries to summarize | 13:23 | |
| dirk | #agreed we allow patches but they're heavily discouraged | 13:24 |
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| dirk | to be honest I lost the status around %autosetup | 13:24 |
| dirk | so we can use %autosetup iwthout git as well? I don't know how we would be doing autosetup with git in our repo | 13:24 |
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| dirk | number80: what do we agree on for now? | 13:25 |
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| dirk | I don't understand how we#d be doing a git rebase tree with our rpm-packaging repo | 13:26 |
| astsmtl | Let's say %autosetup -S git is encouraged, and move on. | 13:27 |
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| dirk | #agreed if %autosetup is used, then %autosetup -S git is encouraged | 13:28 |
| dirk | #topic Logo Mascot status + submission (see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging-logo-ideas )Â | 13:28 |
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| number80 | well, consensus is we should have a box in the logo :) | 13:29 |
| dirk | indeed | 13:29 |
| dirk | not sure if thats an animal fish or plant though :) | 13:29 |
| number80 | dead trees! | 13:29 |
| astsmtl | Metal box! | 13:30 |
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| number80 | lol | 13:32 |
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| number80 | well, the deadline is July,27? | 13:32 |
| dirk | so groundhog or donkey in a box are candidates | 13:32 |
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| dirk | basically before next meeting | 13:33 |
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| dirk | do we want to do a formal vote? | 13:33 |
| jruzicka | so it't be nice to get rid of that today ;) | 13:33 |
| astsmtl | Deb people decided to do something like this: https://raphaelhertzog.com/files/2010/10/new-package-magic-300x228.jpg | 13:33 |
| dirk | can everyone add items and add +1s behind it? | 13:33 |
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| dirk | would that work? | 13:34 |
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| number80 | yup | 13:34 |
| astsmtl | Ahaha! | 13:35 |
| dirk | #action all review https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging-logo-ideas and add +1s for each logo idea you like | 13:35 |
| dirk | astsmtl: add it as a logo idea then to etherpad | 13:35 |
| dirk | I will review the etherpad by early next week | 13:36 |
| dirk | so please submit votes by sunday evening 24th whatever timezone you're in | 13:36 |
| dirk | thanks | 13:36 |
| jruzicka | dunno, boxes and kittens kinda go together :D | 13:36 |
| astsmtl | dirk, I'm not sure if it's okay to use same idea. :/ | 13:36 |
| dirk | astsmtl: it should be unique, the logo is still fairly "minimal" to me though | 13:37 |
| dirk | astsmtl: did you mean the openstack deb packaging people or deb people in general? | 13:37 |
| astsmtl | OpenStack. | 13:37 |
| dirk | thanks | 13:37 |
| dirk | I'd still be fine with choosing a similar idea | 13:38 |
| dirk | or mascot with a small rpm / deb branding | 13:38 |
| dirk | at the end of the day we want to collaborate | 13:38 |
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| dirk | ok to move on? | 13:39 |
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| dirk | #topic packages reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open ) | 13:39 |
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| dirk | I was going over the reviews an hour ago last time | 13:40 |
| dirk | things are progressing as far as I can see | 13:40 |
| dirk | main showstopper are various CI failures eveywhere | 13:40 |
| dirk | I have submitted a change for a new pymod2pkg release | 13:40 |
| dirk | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345327/ | 13:40 |
| dirk | this should unblock some of the python-client*s from going in | 13:41 |
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| dirk | any idea what else is missing? I have seen a couple of MOS CI failures on stable/mitaka reviews that are blocking things right now | 13:41 |
| dirk | e.g. we'd desparately need | 13:41 |
| dirk | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342030/ | 13:41 |
| number80 | (sorry urgent call) | 13:42 |
| dirk | but gating fails on this for significant amount of time | 13:42 |
| dirk | (and needs rebase right now= | 13:42 |
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| dirk | any review we want to discuss here? | 13:43 |
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| dirk | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/renderspec+status:open | 13:43 |
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| dirk | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336151/ | 13:43 |
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| dirk | has a bit of debate in there, do we want to discuss this here? | 13:43 |
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| jruzicka | I'd like your opinion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336151/ | 13:43 |
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| jruzicka | yes please | 13:44 |
| dirk | jruzicka: I haven't read the review, can you summarize? | 13:44 |
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| jruzicka | in short, it changes the default behavior from "use file if present" to "always require command line argument" | 13:45 |
| jruzicka | but it's a question about use case | 13:45 |
| astsmtl | My main argument is that current default is relative (just a file name), so it depends on cwd. | 13:46 |
| astsmtl | And I can't see better defaults here. | 13:46 |
| jruzicka | Oh yeah what you wrote makes sense | 13:47 |
| jruzicka | so it's moving, let's continue with this off meeting | 13:47 |
| dirk | ok | 13:48 |
| * dirk feels that a --yes-i-know-the-file-isnt-there might be a potential solution | 13:48 | |
| dirk | #topic open floor | 13:48 |
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| dirk | anything else to cover? | 13:48 |
| jruzicka | I'd just like to mention I'd like to improve renderspec | 13:49 |
| jruzicka | to cover differences we have better, lemme find the link | 13:49 |
| jruzicka | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/renderspec_RFE | 13:50 |
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| jruzicka | after some research, I'd like to use jinja {% blocks %} to allow distro-specific magics | 13:50 |
| jruzicka | espiecially, if you noticed some discrepancy between RDO and suse packaging that should be covered, please put it in the above document or just let me know | 13:51 |
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| dirk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/renderspec_RFE | 13:52 |
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| dirk | jruzicka: thanks | 13:52 |
| dirk | #action all review etherpad until next week | 13:52 |
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| dirk | jruzicka: I'll take a look | 13:53 |
| * dirk has to run though in a min | 13:53 | |
| dirk | anything else? | 13:53 |
| jruzicka | dirk, thanks in advance ;) | 13:53 |
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| dirk | #endmeeting | 13:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 13:55:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-07-21-13.01.html | 13:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-07-21-13.01.txt | 13:55 |
| dirk | thanks, talk to you next week! | 13:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-07-21-13.01.log.html | 13:55 |
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| m3m0 | #startmeeting freezer | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 13:59:53 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is m3m0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 13:59 |
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| m3m0 | who's here for the freezer meeting? | 14:00 |
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| yangyapeng | :) | 14:00 |
| yangyapeng | hello m3m0 | 14:00 |
| szaher_ | Hi m3m0 | 14:00 |
| domhnallw | o/ | 14:00 |
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| m3m0 | yangyapeng: hello :) | 14:01 |
| timothyb89 | hello all! | 14:01 |
| m3m0 | let's wait a bit more | 14:01 |
| domhnallw | Hey Tim :) | 14:01 |
| daemontool__ | o/ | 14:01 |
| m3m0 | and as always, the topics https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings | 14:01 |
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| slashme | o/ | 14:02 |
| daemontool__ | can't manage creating a new job from the web ui on a fresh devstack deployment | 14:02 |
| daemontool__ | master branch | 14:02 |
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| daemontool__ | we can talk about that later | 14:03 |
| daemontool__ | in the chan | 14:03 |
| daemontool__ | sorry | 14:03 |
| ddieterly | o/ | 14:03 |
| daemontool__ | \o | 14:03 |
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| m3m0 | #topic - Freezer mascot | 14:06 |
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| m3m0 | slashme any input? | 14:06 |
| slashme | Yup | 14:06 |
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| slashme | I contacted the foundation (Heidi Joy) to give her our current inputs for review | 14:07 |
| slashme | You can still give your opinion on the dedicated etherpad | 14:08 |
| slashme | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_mascot | 14:08 |
| domhnallw | Did she get back to you with anything? | 14:08 |
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| slashme | No yet | 14:08 |
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| domhnallw | So nothing ruled in or out yet, fine :) | 14:09 |
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| m3m0 | can we move forward? | 14:09 |
| slashme | Yes | 14:09 |
| domhnallw | Yup./ | 14:09 |
| m3m0 | #topic Midcycle meetup recap | 14:10 |
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| slashme | Okay, let me give you a very short recap | 14:10 |
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| slashme | The full minutes will be sent on the mailing list tomorrow | 14:12 |
| slashme | Here are the topics we discussed | 14:13 |
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| slashme | Update on documentation | 14:13 |
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| slashme | Update on python-freezerclient split | 14:14 |
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| slashme | Middleware update (Falcon and Paste and PasteDeploy) | 14:14 |
| slashme | Freezer-agent refactoring: where we are at | 14:14 |
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| slashme | Backup as a Service : What needs to be done | 14:14 |
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| daemontool__ | ok | 14:16 |
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| slashme | - Web-ui fixes | 14:16 |
| slashme | - Retention on OpenStack (cinder, cindernative, nova) backups | 14:16 |
| slashme | - Testing | 14:16 |
| slashme | - Oslo Policy (for multi tenancy) | 14:16 |
| slashme | - scheduler runnning multiple jobs | 14:16 |
| slashme | - | 14:16 |
| slashme | A least | 14:17 |
| slashme | Nova / Cinder backup fixes | 14:17 |
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| slashme | On-duty core reviewer (We are going to have two on-duty reviewer on a one weekrotation that will try to work more on reviews) This does not mean other reviewers will stop reviewing. More on that in a following communication. | 14:18 |
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| slashme | Update on integration testing, We finaly have a list of basic feature we want to integrate in our integration tests. | 14:19 |
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| slashme | We will start by these and then move to more complex scenarios | 14:19 |
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| slashme | Tar incremental issues and how to mitigate them. This was the main point. We are still working on which solution will be chosen. Update on this next week. | 14:20 |
| slashme | Core team review. Some addition will be done (I'll reach out to some members of the 99cloud team) and some cleaning of inactive members as well. | 14:21 |
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| slashme | These were pretty much all the subject we discussed. You can find links to related etherpad here : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_midcycle_meetup_newton | 14:21 |
| m3m0 | thanks a lot for the recap slashme | 14:22 |
| m3m0 | who will be the first on-duty reviewers? | 14:23 |
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| m3m0 | should they be assigned from thursday to thursday? | 14:23 |
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| m3m0 | we can have that as a recurrent topic in our meetings | 14:24 |
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| m3m0 | that means that we can start today | 14:24 |
| slashme | I think this is a good idea. | 14:24 |
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| slashme | They will receive individual email anyway | 14:24 |
| slashme | So for this week, it will be m3m0 and myself | 14:25 |
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| m3m0 | mmmkey :) | 14:25 |
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| m3m0 | does anyone have anything to add? | 14:25 |
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| daemontool | good for me | 14:27 |
| m3m0 | then we can move forward | 14:27 |
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| m3m0 | #topic Nova backup/restore status | 14:27 |
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| m3m0 | yangyapeng: can you give us a status on this? | 14:27 |
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| m3m0 | anyone? | 14:29 |
| yangyape_ | 1. nova backup to local master is unaviable | 14:29 |
| yangyape_ | 2. restore nova multiple network | 14:29 |
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| yangyape_ | if we fix it , we need backport to mitak ? | 14:30 |
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| daemontool | if it's a bug fix, yes | 14:31 |
| daemontool | IMHO | 14:31 |
| m3m0 | yangyape_: I'll say yes | 14:31 |
| m3m0 | that should be really easy to do. | 14:31 |
| iceyao | yangyape_: Do you report the bug in launchpad? | 14:31 |
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| yangyape_ | yeah, I have some bug in launchpad and backup nova /cinder to local or restore cinder or nova, pending reviewing | 14:32 |
| m3m0 | could you paste the links? | 14:32 |
| yangyape_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_nova_cinder about backup nova/cinder to local or ssh, in master , I need to update it, | 14:33 |
| yangyape_ | but other pending review | 14:33 |
| m3m0 | do you have a patch? | 14:33 |
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| m3m0 | sorry they are there | 14:33 |
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| yangyape_ | yeah | 14:34 |
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| m3m0 | thanks a lot | 14:34 |
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| m3m0 | is there anything we can do for you guys? | 14:34 |
| m3m0 | #topic Cinder backup/restore status | 14:35 |
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| m3m0 | and what about cinder? | 14:35 |
| m3m0 | any updates? | 14:35 |
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| yangyape_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318551/ restore cinder need review | 14:36 |
| yangyape_ | this bug Will affect the status cinder restore | 14:37 |
| m3m0 | why? | 14:37 |
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| yangyape_ | restore cinder, if cinder_id is not available, glance delete image, affect cinder restore finally | 14:39 |
| yangyape_ | we shoud wait restore cinder volume is available after delete image | 14:39 |
| yangyape_ | this patch fix it | 14:40 |
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| m3m0 | ok, so we can merge it right? | 14:40 |
| m3m0 | there a few comments on it | 14:40 |
| yangyape_ | ok, I will update after meeting. thanks m3m0 | 14:41 |
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| m3m0 | so I guess is the same status for cindernative right? | 14:43 |
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| zhangjn | thx | 14:44 |
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| m3m0 | #topic Readme updates | 14:47 |
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| m3m0 | does any of the nova and cinder changes requires an update in the mappings? | 14:48 |
| m3m0 | lol | 14:48 |
| m3m0 | in the README? | 14:48 |
| daemontool | I think so, as it is the only baas features we provide | 14:49 |
| daemontool | probably baas should be organized in a dedicated section_ | 14:49 |
| daemontool | ? | 14:49 |
| m3m0 | we should be careful and add info there when need it | 14:49 |
| m3m0 | yes, I agree | 14:49 |
| m3m0 | we can have a better structure | 14:50 |
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| m3m0 | we are starting to port the docs to here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Freezer#Documentation | 14:50 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:50 |
| m3m0 | and then when we have the sphinx docs ready we will move to docs.openstack.org | 14:50 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:51 |
| daemontool | content still needs to be there | 14:51 |
| daemontool | but I think | 14:51 |
| daemontool | if we define a table of content | 14:51 |
| daemontool | it will be easier | 14:51 |
| m3m0 | +1 | 14:51 |
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| m3m0 | yes, way way better than it is right now | 14:51 |
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| daemontool | let me talk with the guys here | 14:51 |
| daemontool | to see if they can do that | 14:52 |
| daemontool | after the deployment of freezer in the lab | 14:52 |
| daemontool | (that is taking way longer than expected) | 14:52 |
| m3m0 | why? | 14:52 |
| m3m0 | any particular reason? | 14:52 |
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| daemontool | yes we'll discuss that | 14:53 |
| daemontool | in the chan after the meeting | 14:53 |
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| m3m0 | sure :) | 14:53 |
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| m3m0 | can we close the meeting then? | 14:53 |
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| m3m0 | or does anyone have anything to say? | 14:53 |
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| ddieterly | nada | 14:54 |
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| zhangjn | freeezer-web-ui | 14:54 |
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| m3m0 | zhangjn: yes | 14:54 |
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| zhangjn | I think we have a good UI. | 14:55 |
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| m3m0 | thanks, but there a lot of things we need to improve | 14:56 |
| m3m0 | specially at the deployment level | 14:56 |
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| m3m0 | but we can discuss this after this meeting if you like | 14:56 |
| zhangjn | OK | 14:56 |
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| zhangjn | I think we can deployment freezer use kolla. | 14:57 |
| domhnallw | Is there a specific UI issue to raise? I've come across some weird issues within a fresh devstack install I want to look into, but we can do that later. | 14:57 |
| zhangjn | we have a core review in kolla | 14:57 |
| m3m0 | zhangjn: have you succeed to deploy it? | 14:57 |
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| zhangjn | I can push this BP. | 14:57 |
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| m3m0 | sure, I don't know what the PTL thinks about this | 14:58 |
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| m3m0 | slashme ^^ | 14:58 |
| zhangjn | ping iceyao | 14:58 |
| domhnallw | Hmm, is this the same topic? | 14:58 |
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| m3m0 | domhnallw: no, sorry about that | 14:58 |
| m3m0 | #topic freezer web ui | 14:58 |
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| m3m0 | one minute to go | 14:58 |
| slashme | I'm happy to see any work done on any deployment solution: Kolla, fuel, ansible, ... | 14:58 |
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| slashme | tripleo | 14:59 |
| m3m0 | zhangjn: we can go for it :) | 14:59 |
| slashme | Let's close the meeting | 14:59 |
| m3m0 | sorry guys I need to close the meeting | 14:59 |
| slashme | Thank you m3m0 | 14:59 |
| m3m0 | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 14:59:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-07-21-13.59.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-07-21-13.59.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-07-21-13.59.log.html | 14:59 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 15:00:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
| dgonzalez | hi | 15:00 |
| tpsilva | hello | 15:00 |
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| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| zengyingzhe_ | Hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| zhongjun_ | hello | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | Hello | 15:00 |
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| jseiler | hi | 15:00 |
| tovchinnikova | o/ | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:00 |
| aovchinnikov | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:00 |
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| markstur_ | hi | 15:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | very short agenda today | 15:00 |
| rraja | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | which is good because I'm hosting from ft collins at the cinder midcyce this week | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| bswartz | this major feature proposal freeze is today | 15:01 |
| bswartz | s/this/the/ | 15:01 |
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| xyang2 | hi | 15:02 |
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| vponomaryov | and we have huge amount of already proposed big features )) | 15:02 |
| bswartz | so all of the large features for newton should be proposed and reviewable already | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: at least there won't be any more after today | 15:02 |
| bswartz | zhongjun_: did you complete the share backup implementation? | 15:03 |
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| zhongjun_ | yes, I already submit the share backup code to gerrit | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: https://review.openstack.org/343980 | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | thanks for link | 15:04 |
| tpsilva | bswartz: I'll also push the mountable snapshots today, just finishing some stuff | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | okay so there's 6 weeks until feature freeze | 15:04 |
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| ganso | anything that will have related manila-ui patches will need to merge before 5 weeks from now, correct? | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | between now and then we want to spend our time reviewing and merging stuff that's ready and giving feedback to those that aren't | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | ganso: yes the UI freeze appears to be 1 week before feature freeze | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: why so? it should be vice versa | 15:06 |
| bswartz | at least that's my reading of the official community deadlines | 15:06 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: this isn't my call | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: UI is dependent on server side features | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | ok | 15:06 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: manila-ui is a library, it needs to be ready for horizon's FF I presume | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I think any server feature that needs a ui should be done early then | 15:06 |
| bswartz | many features don't need UIs and those have more time | 15:06 |
| rraja | bswartz: i've added code that is reviewable for adding access_key to share_access_mapping. i'm not sure if it's a big feature though. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343306/ | 15:06 |
| bswartz | rraja: well if it's done today then it doesn't matter because you met the deadline | 15:07 |
| rraja | bswartz: ok. | 15:07 |
| ganso | bswartz: so any core features that are less than 500 lines of code excluding tests are not considered major, correct? | 15:07 |
| bswartz | looking at that review it seems to meet the definition of a "major feature" because it touches the API and DB | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | it's not many lines of code though | 15:08 |
| bswartz | I'll look closer but probably this one will be easy | 15:08 |
| rraja | bswartz: thanks! | 15:08 |
| bswartz | okay on to the real agenda | 15:08 |
| bswartz | #topic Migrate API reference into tree | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Migrate API reference into tree (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:09 | |
| bswartz | dgonzalez: you're up | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313874 | 15:09 |
| dgonzalez | Yeah, so gouthamr and I are currently moving the API reference in-tree | 15:09 |
| * bswartz complains gerrit is slow | 15:10 | |
| dgonzalez | We are nearly finished with teh work, and it would be great if people could start to have a look at it and review it | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | update: everything that can be done on that patch is done wrt the content.. we're only fixing an error with the parameters.yaml file | 15:10 |
| vponomaryov | dgonzalez: in short, what is the diff with the source? | 15:10 |
| dgonzalez | vponomaryov: what do you mean with diff? | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: the API reference is written differently -> no more unstructured RST or docbooks | 15:11 |
| bswartz | you're rewritten all that RST into json? | 15:11 |
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| vponomaryov | dgonzalez: I am talking about data | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | dgonzalez: only container changes? | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: it will use an oslo tool called 'os-api-ref' to combine data from a structured RST and an accompanying parameters file to generate the API reference .. examples are still json files. | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I think vponomaryov is asking if you changed any content or if the conversion was purely mechanical | 15:12 |
| dgonzalez | bswartz: the json code are only the examples. teh actual reference is in the .inc files | 15:12 |
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| gouthamr | yes, changes are only corrections to the API documentation | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I see | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | dgonzalez, gouthamr: thanks | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | there is a (*cough* long) list of bugs that we'll be filing to the inconsistencies and errors in the API | 15:13 |
| bswartz | thans for doing this dgonzalez, gouthamr | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | some are minor and some are major | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | i'll tag all of them so we can discuss them at an upcoming meeting | 15:13 |
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| gouthamr | thank god for microversions :) | 15:13 |
| cknight | bswartz: +1 Thanks very much dgonzalez & gouthamr! | 15:14 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: doc bugs or actual API bugs? | 15:14 |
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| dgonzalez | bswartz: I think he means doc bugs | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: actual API inconsistencies, like response keys, pagination mismatches, response codes and the like | 15:14 |
| dgonzalez | ok, I was wrong :P | 15:15 |
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| gouthamr | dgonzalez: there will be doc bugs :) | 15:15 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: you going to file a raft of bugs in LP then so we can get people to work on them? | 15:15 |
| * bswartz reconsiders... | 15:15 | |
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| gouthamr | bswartz: yep | 15:15 |
| bswartz | actually if we need lots of small fixes then it could make sense to bundle them up | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | to avoid microversion thrashing | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: we can take a look at these and see what needs to be fixed.. not all of them may need fixes per se.. | 15:16 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | gouthamr: do you have the list now? | 15:16 |
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| gouthamr | bswartz: in an evernote | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: will do the LP filing today | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | so since we have time I'll propose one more topic | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: please, mark all doc bugs with [doc] prefix | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: if they are doc, yes.. | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | will do :) | 15:17 |
| bswartz | #topic prioritization for N-3 features | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | so it seems to me that given the large amount of reviews we need to do, that we need a way to organize that activity and make sure it happens | 15:18 |
| bswartz | otherwise we'll end up a week before FF with nothing merged | 15:18 |
| bswartz | any suggestions for a good way to manage this? | 15:19 |
| bswartz | teams like cinder have created etherpads and sought "review volunteers" | 15:19 |
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| gouthamr | etherpad +1 | 15:19 |
| zengyingzhe_ | good idea | 15:19 |
| xyang2 | +1 | 15:19 |
| zhongjun_ | agree with etherpad | 15:20 |
| markstur_ | +1 | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | review all in order of appearence | 15:20 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-newton3-priorities | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | in cycle | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | there are 2 concerns | 15:21 |
| bswartz | I'll set the actual priorities for the BPs in launchpad | 15:21 |
| bswartz | the point of the etherpad isn't to prioritize as much as to ensure that things don't get ignored | 15:21 |
| bswartz | so if you have a major feature please link it there and we'll get the list prioritized and create space for people to sign up to review | 15:22 |
| bswartz | if anything looks ignored I'll go hunting for reviewers | 15:22 |
| bswartz | the goal being to ensure everything gets timely feedback | 15:23 |
| bswartz | of course there's no guarantee that anything will merge | 15:23 |
| bswartz | I just want to avoid having everything merge at the last minute | 15:23 |
| bswartz | sound good? | 15:23 |
| tbarron | bswartz: +1 | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | so please go ahead and post links there | 15:23 |
| bswartz | I'll move them around and add anything I thing of, but I'm sure I'll miss a few | 15:24 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:24 |
| tpsilva | and please, for featues with a long list of patches (like share migration), let's try to review them in correct order | 15:24 |
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| tpsilva | this should avoid the rebase hell | 15:25 |
| bswartz | tpsilva: good point | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | I'll sign myself up to help with those reviews | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | I'm excited about migration | 15:25 |
| tovchinnikova | Speaking about reviews | 15:26 |
| tovchinnikova | This change really needs some fresh opinions: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336599 | 15:26 |
| bswartz | two +2 but -1 from vponomaryov | 15:27 |
| tovchinnikova | It would be great to make our UI have new django | 15:27 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov can you explain your problem with this? | 15:27 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: I am not agree calling tox job with specific version when it pulls always latest one | 15:28 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: I mean it has version in name when it pulls latest | 15:28 |
| bswartz | it looks like the old code did this version thing too | 15:28 |
| vponomaryov | yes, old code did it correctly | 15:29 |
| bswartz | oh you mean the new change needs to have a ceiling on the version | 15:29 |
| vponomaryov | version in name means we have such version | 15:29 |
| vponomaryov | yes | 15:29 |
| bswartz | yeah I think I agree with valeriy | 15:29 |
| tovchinnikova | Discussion goes in circles :) | 15:29 |
| bswartz | tovchinnikova: why not put django<1.11 to match what the section name implies? | 15:30 |
| bswartz | so you don't end up with 1.12 or 1.13 | 15:30 |
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| bswartz | these was a clear pattern in the existing tox.ini but this change doesn't follow the pattern | 15:31 |
| tovchinnikova | bswartz, in august we'll have django 1.10 and will have to fix the version line anyways | 15:31 |
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| tovchinnikova | now that's only beta | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | well I don't claim to understand why there are multiple sections | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | does anyone know why we have multiple versions listed here? | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: they differ a lot | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | which one(s) get run? | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: currently 1.8.x | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | so what is the point of the other sections? | 15:32 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: the same as for python3.x | 15:32 |
| bswartz | for developers to check compatibility with future versions? | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: switch to newest version | 15:33 |
| tovchinnikova | bswartz, the main point is to have our tests fixed before using new versions | 15:33 |
| bswartz | okay so I suspect the solution here is simple tovchinnikova | 15:33 |
| bswartz | if the section name is py27dj110, then it should ensure that you really get 1.10 only and nothing later | 15:33 |
| tovchinnikova | and compatibility of course | 15:34 |
| bswartz | if what you want is *latest* then call the section py27dj-latest | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: you are repeating my words from review )0 | 15:34 |
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| tovchinnikova | bswartz, then we will have to rename gate job from latest to 110 | 15:34 |
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| tovchinnikova | *when we have 111 | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I thought the gate job was running 1.8.... | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | I think the gate should never run with latest -- we always need control of what the gate runs to avoid surprise breakage | 15:35 |
| vponomaryov | tovchinnikova: it does not answer absence of ceiling | 15:35 |
| bswartz | if developers want to run with latest on their own that's fine | 15:36 |
| vponomaryov | tovchinnikova: you can keep name but use ceiling | 15:36 |
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| tovchinnikova | okay, let's use ceiling and keep the name 1.10 | 15:36 |
| tovchinnikova | thank you all for the discussion | 15:37 |
| bswartz | awesome | 15:37 |
| bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:37 |
| bswartz | going once | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | yeah, don't forget to review manila UI! | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | do we have the results of the vote? | 15:37 |
| bswartz | oh | 15:37 |
| bswartz | good point gouthamr | 15:37 |
| ganso | gouthamr: +1!!! | 15:37 |
| markstur_ | is it too late to lobby for our favorite critters? | 15:38 |
| bswartz | gorilla wins with 21% of the vote | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | markstur_: depends on if it can win a fist fight with gorilla | 15:39 |
| ganso | so manila gorilla it is then | 15:40 |
| bswartz | second place was a tie between chinchilla, kangaroo, and venus fly trap with 12% each | 15:40 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: what is the percentage for second? | 15:40 |
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| vponomaryov | I suspect chinchilla would not be accepted anyway as very similar to mouse | 15:40 |
| dustins | Any stats on Team Box Turtle? | 15:40 |
| bswartz | dustins: 9% | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | dustins: we tried. | 15:41 |
| dustins | Better than expected :D | 15:41 |
| bswartz | okay I think that's it for today | 15:41 |
| markstur_ | vponomaryov, if chinchilla is too similar to mouse, aren't gorillas just big monkeys? | 15:41 |
| vponomaryov | markstur_: or shaggy bullies )0 | 15:41 |
| bswartz | I'll tell the foundation we want gorilla and we'll see if it takes | 15:41 |
| bswartz | if it's taken* | 15:42 |
| bswartz | thanks all | 15:42 |
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| markstur_ | bswartz, tell them we want it to be a big one. Not just some monkey. | 15:42 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 15:42:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-07-21-15.00.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-07-21-15.00.txt | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-07-21-15.00.log.html | 15:42 |
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| tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 17:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
| lhinds | ohai! | 17:00 |
| gmurphy | o/ | 17:00 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | hai! | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:00 |
| mdong | o/ | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | hyakuhei is going to be out today | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | he's off saving the world or something cooler than IRC :) | 17:01 |
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| michaelxin | o/ | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | allright, let's get started | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Syntribos | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Syntribos (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:02 | |
| tmcpeak | michaelxin et al | 17:02 |
| mdong | right, so this past week we've completed removing opencafe dependencies | 17:02 |
| michaelxin | +1 | 17:03 |
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| mdong | it's officially gone from the requirements and everything | 17:03 |
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| tmcpeak | woot! | 17:03 |
| mdong | there's one more part that we still need to replace from opencafe: the logging | 17:03 |
| michaelxin | Sam will not be happy about this. | 17:03 |
| mdong | haha | 17:03 |
| michaelxin | The team had a design session about the new logging requirements. | 17:04 |
| mdong | we've gone back and forth about using oslo.log | 17:04 |
| michaelxin | ok | 17:05 |
| mdong | it introduces a whole bunch of cli options etc that we're not really sure we need | 17:05 |
| mdong | so we're still figuring that out. but that's our main focus at the moment | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:06 |
| michaelxin | Does anyone here know how to turn off some of the cli options for oslo? | 17:06 |
| michaelxin | If yes, please ping us privately. | 17:06 |
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| tmcpeak | sigmavirus: ? | 17:06 |
| dg___ | o/ | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | ^ | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | mr dg___ whatup | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | back from France? | 17:06 |
| michaelxin | That's all we got for Syntribos. | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | cool, thanks guys | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | #topic OSSN | 17:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSSN (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:07 | |
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| dg___ | sup tmcpeak | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | ok, I was supposed to work on one but I haven't, because I suck | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | #action tmcpeak to OSSN | 17:07 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm rolling it over | 17:07 |
| michaelxin | it also remminded me | 17:08 |
| michaelxin | that I should work on one too. | 17:08 |
| lhinds | 0068: Is ready to go right now, its late as I am numpty and thought there might be a cron job that scopes up and auto posts to wiki. | 17:08 |
| michaelxin | The same reason as tmcpeak | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | #action michaelxin to OSSN | 17:08 |
| lhinds | realised that is not the case, which is just as well as there was lots of fighting between xml and mediawiki namespaces | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | lhinds ok has OSSN 68 merged? | 17:08 |
| lhinds | Yes | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | ok so we need to announce to ML and post on wiki? | 17:08 |
| lhinds | tmcpeak: already to do that | 17:09 |
| lhinds | I have it posted, and a signed email in my drafts | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | ahh ok awesome | 17:09 |
| lhinds | thought I would just check in here in case there was anything else | 17:09 |
| lhinds | but followed the OSSN guide to the T | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | lhinds you are a rockstar | 17:09 |
| michaelxin | lhinds: +1 | 17:09 |
| lhinds | so will send it after this to openstack & openstack-dev ML | 17:09 |
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| tmcpeak | sweet | 17:10 |
| lhinds | other then that I am starting on the IPv6 exposes host OS via qbr one | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | cool, you have assigned to yourself? | 17:10 |
| lhinds | yup | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | I'll assign myself one now too | 17:10 |
| lhinds | and put a WIP on the wiki | 17:10 |
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| tmcpeak | anybody else want to pick up OSSN? | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | I'll do one of the private ones | 17:11 |
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| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:12 |
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| michaelxin | where is Mike McCune? Did he just abandon us? | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | yeah.. :( | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Docs | 17:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Docs (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:12 | |
| tmcpeak | sicarie: | 17:12 |
| michaelxin | what happened? | 17:13 |
| sicarie | His group was re-tasked internally | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | I think he said he's been reprioritized or something | 17:13 |
| michaelxin | ic, thanks. | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | permanently, yes? | 17:13 |
| sicarie | For the forseeable future | 17:13 |
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| tmcpeak | so it's just the sicarie show? | 17:14 |
| sicarie | I’m taking volunteers :) | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | we probably need another sec core too, anybody interested? | 17:14 |
| sicarie | So I started highlighting where I thought the SecGuide needed to be touched up, and ithat progressed to a full read-through | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | oh awesome | 17:14 |
| sicarie | I’m at Networking now | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | etherpad? | 17:14 |
| sicarie | Lots of little “let’s validate this" | 17:14 |
| sicarie | Yeah, i have it locally, but I should probably do etherpad | 17:14 |
| lhinds | tmcpeak: I am interested | 17:14 |
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| tmcpeak | lhinds ok cool, I'll add that to agenda next time to synch with Rob but I think you'd be a great candidate | 17:15 |
| lhinds | cool, but its also fine if you want someone who has been around a while too | 17:15 |
| lhinds | either way, happy to help | 17:15 |
| lhinds | tmcpeak: thx | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | I think you'd be great for it | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | you've already done tons of awesome stuff | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | sicarie: local is probably fine since you're the only one working on it | 17:16 |
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| tmcpeak | sicarie: anything else for docs? | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | this looks like a quick meeting today | 17:16 |
| sicarie | Nah, about halfway through right now - actually right at the point where I believe we will need to refresh stuff | 17:16 |
| michaelxin | +1 | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | sicarie thanks for doing it | 17:17 |
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| sicarie | once I get that quantified, I’ll be pinging the sec cores on a draft of an email for -dev | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | perfect | 17:17 |
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| sicarie | it’s already caused about 4/5 bugs to be created, and one of which has a change against it as of 15 min ago | 17:17 |
| sicarie | so yeah, progress! | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | woot! | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | good job man | 17:18 |
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| tmcpeak | ok.. | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | #topic AOB | 17:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:18 | |
| sicarie | mid-cycle finalized | 17:18 |
| sicarie | topics set? | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | reminder if you are interested in the midcycle please add your name to the list as well as any sessions you are interested in leading or participating in | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-security-midcycle-N | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | yep | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | ^ | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | you coming sicarie? | 17:19 |
| sicarie | nope | 17:19 |
| sicarie | I avoid Texas in August | 17:19 |
| sicarie | sorry michaelxin :) | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | probably wise :) | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | anything else anybody wants to mention? | 17:20 |
| tkelsey | FYI Bandit like tool for Go #link https://github.com/HewlettPackard/gas | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | lol, gas | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | heh heh | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | HP gas | 17:20 |
| michaelxin | sicarie: haha! Smart choice. | 17:20 |
| lhinds | tkelsey: nice | 17:20 |
| tkelsey | partly the reason I have been quiet recently :P | 17:20 |
| dg___ | tmcpeak HPE please | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | that's not what the github repo says dg___ | 17:20 |
| dg___ | HP are those printer guys (who are also awesome) | 17:20 |
| michaelxin | Believe it or not, people play soccer at 3:00pm here. | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | michaelxin: they have immunity to Texas | 17:21 |
| dg___ | tmcpeak yeah...we were supprised about that too | 17:21 |
| tkelsey | michaelxin: thats crazy | 17:21 |
| dg___ | 3am i could believe | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | tkelsey: as crazy as you guys being immune to England :P | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | "I don't even notice when it rains anymore" | 17:21 |
| tkelsey | hahaha, well i guess there is that :P | 17:22 |
| michaelxin | yes, it is crazy. | 17:22 |
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| dg___ | stupid english weather :( | 17:22 |
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| dg___ | tmcpeak you going to texas? | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | allright all, I'm going to call it unless anybody has anything else? | 17:22 |
| tkelsey | its liquid sunshine is all :P | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | dg___: most likely | 17:22 |
| dg___ | sweet | 17:22 |
| michaelxin | So the dates of mid-cycle is locked , right? | 17:22 |
| dg___ | I'm flying in friday night | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | dg___: you? | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | sick!! | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | then I'll definitely go | 17:22 |
| dg___ | michaelxin I really hope so, or my boss is going to murder me and I'm going to get the worst company sponsored vacation in history | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | not going to miss a Doug sighting opportunity | 17:22 |
| michaelxin | dg___: +1. | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | allright, have a good week everybody! | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:23 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 17:23:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-07-21-17.00.html | 17:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-07-21-17.00.txt | 17:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-07-21-17.00.log.html | 17:23 |
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| tkelsey | dg___ is required to drink my share of any beer, hold him to it :P | 17:23 |
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| tmcpeak | tkelsey: indeed we will | 17:24 |
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| michaelxin | bye, guys | 17:24 |
| michaelxin | Thanks. | 17:24 |
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| lhinds | thanks! | 17:25 |
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| vgridnev | #startmeeting sahara | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 18:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:00 |
| esikachev | hi | 18:00 |
| NikitaKonovalov | o/ | 18:00 |
| zemuvier_ | hi | 18:00 |
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| vgridnev | seems like this meeting is going to be declined if there are no so much people who is going to attend | 18:01 |
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| vgridnev | or it will be quite short | 18:01 |
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| mionkin_ | hi :) | 18:02 |
| tosky2 | hi | 18:02 |
| raissa | hi | 18:02 |
| Akanksha08_ | Hi | 18:02 |
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| vgridnev | elmiko and egafford are not going to attend today | 18:03 |
| vgridnev | #topic News / updates | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:03 | |
| vgridnev | i'm working on kerberos integration right now | 18:03 |
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| tosky2 | reviews, working on moving CLI tests with the other tempest tests | 18:04 |
| esikachev | working on scripts for sahara-ci migration and fix some jobs | 18:04 |
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| mionkin_ | mostly - implementation designate feature | 18:04 |
| zemuvier_ | i continue working on cli-tests, also finish write disabling auto_security_group in scenario freamwork | 18:05 |
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| vgridnev | #topic Open discussion | 18:06 |
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| vgridnev | i'm skipping feature reviews since there no such much cores today | 18:07 |
| vgridnev | it there something that we should cover? | 18:07 |
| NikitaKonovalov | just to mention a feature, there is osprofiler support under development | 18:07 |
| vgridnev | yeah that will be great | 18:08 |
| NikitaKonovalov | it should allow to have a better tracking of which methods spend most time during different operations | 18:08 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | I'm also now trying to build an Apache Bigtop | 18:09 |
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| tosky2 | apache bigtop is...complicated | 18:10 |
| NikitaKonovalov | It's a tool for Hadoop setup validation as well as other related services like Oozie, Hive Hbase etc | 18:10 |
| tosky2 | no packaging support afaik | 18:10 |
| NikitaKonovalov | yes, the only where it probably runs is their own ci | 18:11 |
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| tosky2 | and even running single testa is challenging | 18:11 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | however if successfully passes on at least one Sahara cluster it will be a powerfull argument that our cluster are valid and ready for real workloads | 18:12 |
| tosky2 | right, but it could be difficult to tune their test suite | 18:12 |
| tosky2 | but we can talk more about it later :) | 18:13 |
| NikitaKonovalov | tosky2: sure | 18:13 |
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| vgridnev | so, since there is no so much topics that we need to cover, I think that we can end today's meeting | 18:14 |
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| vgridnev | ok, thanks folks | 18:14 |
| vgridnev | #endmetting | 18:14 |
| vgridnev | #endmeeting | 18:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 18:15:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-07-21-18.00.html | 18:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-07-21-18.00.txt | 18:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-07-21-18.00.log.html | 18:15 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | thanks | 18:15 |
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