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| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 28 13:02:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:02 |
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| dirk | toabctl, dirk, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jruzicka, number80:: ping | 13:02 |
| dirk | #topic roll call | 13:02 |
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| number80 | o/ | 13:02 |
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| dirk | please add your meeting agenda topics to | 13:04 |
| dirk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:04 |
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| jruzicka | o/ | 13:05 |
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| dirk | #topic Mascot update | 13:07 |
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| dirk | so far we have submitted the Donkey | 13:07 |
| number80 | wfm | 13:07 |
| dirk | it will be preapred as a comic like logo with and without text, and there might have both slide templates as well as t-shirts for barcelona potentially | 13:07 |
| number80 | A/bu19 | 13:07 |
| dirk | #topic packages reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open ) | 13:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "packages reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open ) (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:08 | |
| dirk | i had a pass on the reviews yesterday and this morning | 13:09 |
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| dirk | anything specific we want to talk about ? | 13:09 |
| number80 | I did a pass yesterday too, I fixed your comments | 13:09 |
| dirk | I've seen a couple of ci failures on both SUSE and mirantis fuel side | 13:09 |
| dirk | I have the action item to update the pymod2pkg package on the worker | 13:09 |
| dirk | that should fix things | 13:10 |
| number80 | I also left some hints to fix Fuel CI (e.g missing packages and also provided them CentOS builds) | 13:10 |
| dirk | I've also fixed the mitaka gating and merged stuff there | 13:10 |
| number80 | dirk: out of curiosity, could you add me as reviewer for the worker, I'd like to learn how it works | 13:10 |
| astsmtl | Ping me if some review cannot pass our CI. | 13:10 |
| number80 | astsmtl: I think you're already a reviewer in most of them | 13:11 |
| astsmtl | And the fault is on our side. :) | 13:11 |
| astsmtl | Ok. | 13:11 |
| number80 | astsmtl: it's fine, openstack keeps adding a lot of deps, so nothing unusual | 13:11 |
| number80 | check comments, as I added links to packages to solve missing ones on your CI | 13:12 |
| number80 | after all, we both builds on CentOS | 13:12 |
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| dirk | astsmtl: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342313/ | 13:12 |
| dirk | astsmtl: there are more | 13:12 |
| dirk | just look for failures above | 13:12 |
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| dirk | astsmtl: I can search through things in more detail, but it is not that many reviews right now, should be quick for you to check all of them quickly | 13:13 |
| number80 | dirk: btw, I found a weird bug in py2name | 13:13 |
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| number80 | clients name like python-cinderclient are transformed in python-python-cinderclient (same for gnocchiclient) | 13:13 |
| number80 | maybe you've noticed it already | 13:13 |
| dirk | number80: yes, tahts what I just said, I need to update pymod2pkg on the jenkins worker | 13:14 |
| number80 | oh excellent | 13:15 |
| number80 | dirk++ | 13:15 |
| dirk | number80: basically thats review I72977c695c9d4c9937e1602dadad5363def87380 and Ic4da525a2efca118570f150cdd1e37f03c7f7376 | 13:15 |
| dirk | they're missing | 13:15 |
| dirk | I've just pasted a review for that | 13:15 |
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| dirk | we need to update to 0.5.2 release | 13:16 |
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| number80 | wfm | 13:18 |
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| dirk | argh | 13:20 |
| dirk | sorry, real life interrupt | 13:20 |
| dirk | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/renderspec+status:open | 13:20 |
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| dirk | jruzicka: do you want to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347447/2/doc/source/usage.rst ? | 13:21 |
| jruzicka | yeah | 13:21 |
| jruzicka | what do you guys think about that? | 13:21 |
| jruzicka | Unless there's some horrible bug, it is a non-intrusive change | 13:22 |
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| number80 | We'd like to reduce the churn on maintaining platform-specific stuff in templates | 13:22 |
| jruzicka | yes today I seen "include opstnack-macrost" in review | 13:22 |
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| jruzicka | so this should be hammer to solve these once and for all | 13:22 |
| number80 | that's error-prone, and it can be automated most of the time | 13:23 |
| jruzicka | yes | 13:23 |
| number80 | one other thing I'd like to be automated is BR/R sorting as package name could be different (so ordering can be different in RDO/suse for instance) | 13:23 |
| jruzicka | so unless you see something wrong with that code I say let's merge this and we can start adding | 13:23 |
| jruzicka | DLRN/rdoinfo as jpena is in PTO | 13:23 |
| jruzicka | gee, clipboard fail | 13:24 |
| jruzicka | {% block build_requires %}{% endblock %} | 13:24 |
| dirk | jruzicka: I haven't understood it in detail | 13:24 |
| number80 | dirk: it's just template composition | 13:24 |
| jruzicka | motivation is here: | 13:24 |
| jruzicka | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/renderspec_RFE | 13:24 |
| astsmtl | jruzicka, I have one question, why you chose block and inheritance, instead of just variable substitution? | 13:24 |
| dirk | jruzicka: so basically we add this block build_requires and then the distro flavor part will be expadned? | 13:24 |
| dirk | jruzicka: thats interesting, we need this e.g. for the copyright header | 13:24 |
| number80 | yep | 13:25 |
| jruzicka | astsmtl, because it's a generic solution to many problems that can come | 13:25 |
| jruzicka | as in | 13:25 |
| jruzicka | you can define blocks easily in already existing files | 13:25 |
| jruzicka | and they can use the macros which main template uses | 13:25 |
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| jruzicka | also undefined block will remain empty | 13:25 |
| jruzicka | so no failures due to unexpected renderspec version | 13:25 |
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| jruzicka | astsmtl, since you ask that, how do you propose we solve the sorting of requiremenst? :) | 13:26 |
| dirk | jruzicka: ok | 13:26 |
| dirk | jruzicka: I'll try to concentrate on the review in the next days and comment there. so far I like the idea. thanks for the change | 13:26 |
| jruzicka | one more thing | 13:26 |
| jruzicka | this only solves certain case of problems | 13:27 |
| astsmtl | jruzicka, Dunno. | 13:27 |
| jruzicka | to solve "Group: only in suse but not rdo" | 13:27 |
| jruzicka | and to sort requirements, easiest way I found is to postprocess | 13:27 |
| jruzicka | so some additional logic in renderspec to manipulate text... remote Group and order requires, pretty easy to do. | 13:28 |
| jruzicka | If you hate the idea, let me know, otherwise I'll provide reviews ;) | 13:28 |
| jruzicka | that's all | 13:28 |
| astsmtl | It is more transparent for user if rendered spec is not post-processed. | 13:29 |
| astsmtl | But if there is no other good solution, we can do it. | 13:29 |
| dirk | jruzicka: well, if the group is realy hurting for RDO, then we need to add a renderspec macro that only expands on suse | 13:30 |
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| dirk | jruzicka: that should be okay I think | 13:30 |
| number80 | dirk: it can be post-processing, but that's not high prio | 13:30 |
| number80 | it can be kept around until tooling can handle it gracefully | 13:31 |
| jruzicka | group aside | 13:32 |
| jruzicka | (which is low prio indeed) | 13:32 |
| dirk | anything else on this topic? | 13:32 |
| jruzicka | only other way to do the sorted requires would be | 13:32 |
| jruzicka | {{ requires( | 13:32 |
| jruzicka | 'foo', | 13:32 |
| jruzicka | 'bar', | 13:32 |
| jruzicka | 'pbr' | 13:32 |
| jruzicka | ) }} | 13:32 |
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| jruzicka | that would mean drastic change to all templates | 13:33 |
| jruzicka | more power, but not sure if worth | 13:33 |
| astsmtl | Btw, can we finally merge or reject: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336151/ | 13:33 |
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| jruzicka | astsmtl, yes, I have that planned for today | 13:34 |
| astsmtl | jruzicka, I thought about this way. I think we should evaluate both solutions carefully. | 13:34 |
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| jruzicka | astsmtl, yup, so I'll propose the less intrusive but less transparent one first | 13:35 |
| number80 | astsmtl: I am not -2 but still hesitating between -1/+1 | 13:35 |
| jruzicka | I hoped for someone else's numbers on that | 13:35 |
| astsmtl | :D | 13:35 |
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| number80 | just to say that you made good points | 13:36 |
| dirk | astsmtl: I am undecided on this still | 13:36 |
| dirk | I kind of see value in both approaches | 13:36 |
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| astsmtl | Ok, lets proceed with the next topic. | 13:36 |
| dirk | I'll try to get to it | 13:37 |
| number80 | *nods* | 13:37 |
| dirk | #topic Meeting chair for next week | 13:38 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Meeting chair for next week (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:38 | |
| dirk | I'm travelling next week this time | 13:39 |
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| dirk | any volunteer? | 13:39 |
| number80 | same for me | 13:39 |
| dirk | toabctl might be back from PTO, but I don't know for sure | 13:39 |
| jruzicka | I can | 13:39 |
| number80 | excellent | 13:39 |
| astsmtl | Igot might be back too. | 13:39 |
| dirk | jruzicka: thanks! | 13:39 |
| astsmtl | Igor. | 13:39 |
| dirk | #agreed jruzicka / IgorYozhikov can chair the meeting | 13:39 |
| dirk | #topic Open floor | 13:40 |
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| dirk | anything else? | 13:40 |
| number80 | nope, just to say thanks to everyone for making it more lively here :) | 13:40 |
| number80 | keep up with the good work! | 13:40 |
| number80 | astsmtl++ | 13:40 |
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| astsmtl | :) | 13:42 |
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| * jruzicka is very happy to have some time allocated for rpm-packaging again | 13:43 | |
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| number80 | we can close the meeting I think :) | 13:46 |
| dirk | agreed | 13:46 |
| dirk | thanks to all for the attendance and the increased participating!" | 13:46 |
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| dirk | keep the reviews flowing! | 13:46 |
| dirk | #endmeeting | 13:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 28 13:46:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-07-28-13.02.html | 13:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-07-28-13.02.txt | 13:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-07-28-13.02.log.html | 13:46 |
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| m3m0 | #startmeeting freezer | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 28 13:59:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is m3m0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 13:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 13:59 |
| yangyapeng | hello | 14:00 |
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| domhnallw_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| m3m0 | hello, who's here for freezer? | 14:00 |
| timothyb89 | hello all! | 14:00 |
| * domhnallw_ is | 14:00 | |
| yangyapeng | :) | 14:00 |
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| m3m0 | thanks :) | 14:00 |
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| m3m0 | let's wait a bit more | 14:00 |
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| m3m0 | and as always, the topics for the meetings, we don't have many this week, but feel free to add more | 14:01 |
| m3m0 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings | 14:01 |
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| ddieterly | o/ | 14:02 |
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| m3m0 | #topic summit voting: https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/vote-for-speakers/presentation/ | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit voting: https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/vote-for-speakers/presentation/ (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:04 | |
| m3m0 | if you can go to that link and vote for the freezer presentations for this summit would be really greate | 14:04 |
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| m3m0 | just in the search bar type FREEZER | 14:04 |
| m3m0 | there are some belonging to us and some from other people as well | 14:04 |
| m3m0 | if you have an unrelated talk, this is your time to send the link :) | 14:05 |
| yangyapeng | I see it about 8 topic ? | 14:05 |
| m3m0 | yes, there are some | 14:06 |
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| m3m0 | ddieterly: do you have any other talk? | 14:07 |
| ddieterly | no | 14:07 |
| ddieterly | we are busy with hpe internal tasks | 14:07 |
| ddieterly | :-( | 14:07 |
| m3m0 | I have one, unrelated to freezer hope you can vote for it :) | 14:07 |
| yangyapeng | But some of us have to submit ？ | 14:08 |
| ddieterly | oh, talk, i thought you said topics | 14:08 |
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| ddieterly | no, i don't have any other talk besides freezer bootcamp | 14:08 |
| m3m0 | if you can vote for mine, would be really appreciated :) | 14:08 |
| m3m0 | Pratai, Event-Driven Compute for OpenStack | 14:08 |
| ddieterly | m3m0 sure, i'll vote for your talk | 14:09 |
| m3m0 | thanks :) | 14:09 |
| m3m0 | yangyapeng: no, but in the next one you can if you like | 14:09 |
| m3m0 | can we move forward? | 14:10 |
| ddieterly | m3m0 already voted for it yesterday :-) | 14:10 |
| m3m0 | ddieterly: muchas gracias :) | 14:10 |
| m3m0 | #topic Add the cindernative action to action list in web-ui | 14:10 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Add the cindernative action to action list in web-ui (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:10 | |
| domhnallw_ | Done :) | 14:10 |
| yangyapeng | done | 14:10 |
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| yangyapeng | this topic. | 14:11 |
| m3m0 | yangyapeng: any update on this topic? Add the cindernative action to action list in web-ui | 14:11 |
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| yangyapeng | want to add action about cinderntavive to list, | 14:11 |
| yangyapeng | now, it hava fs nova cinder... but cindernative | 14:11 |
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| yangyapeng | but. about web-ui have some bug need to fix it, eg: add action in job and edit job and so on | 14:12 |
| m3m0 | would you like to work on it? I can provide you any help you need | 14:12 |
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| yangyapeng | thank you m3m0. I need | 14:13 |
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| iceyao | some bug has reported in launchpad ? | 14:13 |
| m3m0 | #action yangyapeng to work on Add the cindernative action to action list in web-ui | 14:13 |
| yangyapeng | I would like to work on it and iceyao | 14:13 |
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| yangyapeng | ping iceyao you want to action and me ? | 14:14 |
| m3m0 | ok, I update the etherpad | 14:14 |
| m3m0 | and remember you can ask me anything | 14:14 |
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| yangyapeng | thank you m3m0 | 14:14 |
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| yangyapeng | :) | 14:14 |
| m3m0 | my email is memo@hpe.com if I'm not available in IRC | 14:14 |
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| yangyapeng | OK OK | 14:15 |
| iceyao | nice | 14:15 |
| m3m0 | we may need to add this to the python-freezerclient as well | 14:15 |
| yangyapeng | hnhn. | 14:16 |
| m3m0 | but I can work on that, don't worry | 14:16 |
| yangyapeng | :) thanks. i am not stronge. | 14:16 |
| m3m0 | ok, can we move forward? | 14:17 |
| yangyapeng | ok | 14:17 |
| m3m0 | #topic pending reviews | 14:18 |
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| m3m0 | who has reviews pending? | 14:18 |
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| m3m0 | from my side: | 14:18 |
| m3m0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343759/ | 14:18 |
| m3m0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340307/ | 14:18 |
| yangyapeng | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312430/ I rebase it | 14:18 |
| timothyb89 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334092/ just needs a +2+A if anyone could take a look :) | 14:19 |
| m3m0 | yangyapeng: if you have time, could you update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Freezer#Documentation with the cinder and nova options? | 14:19 |
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| yangyapeng | OK. I I am very glad to do it . m3m0 | 14:20 |
| m3m0 | yangyapeng: thanks a lot :) | 14:21 |
| domhnallw_ | Moi: | 14:21 |
| domhnallw_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342095 | 14:22 |
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| m3m0 | +2 sir | 14:24 |
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| domhnallw_ | Muchas gracias señor :) | 14:25 |
| m3m0 | does anyone have anything to say? talk now or forever hold your peace | 14:25 |
| domhnallw_ | Err, about what? :p | 14:26 |
| ddieterly | you've been watching too many clint eastwood westerns | 14:26 |
| domhnallw_ | Or too many chick flicks about weddings :p | 14:26 |
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| ddieterly | yea, more likely ;-) | 14:26 |
| m3m0 | about hahaha I have my right to cry from time to time | 14:27 |
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| domhnallw_ | A joke about waterproof keyboards materialized in my head but I thought better of it... | 14:28 |
| m3m0 | so can we close the meeting then? I can give you 30 min your day back :) | 14:28 |
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| domhnallw_ | Yay!? | 14:28 |
| m3m0 | ok guys, thanks to all :) | 14:28 |
| domhnallw_ | This is what happens when the PTL is away :p | 14:28 |
| domhnallw_ | Thanks :) | 14:29 |
| m3m0 | isn't better? :) | 14:29 |
| ddieterly | ciao! | 14:29 |
| timothyb89 | thanks all | 14:29 |
| m3m0 | beannacht | 14:29 |
| domhnallw_ | Wow, we're getting beagáinín Gaeilge now, are we? | 14:30 |
| domhnallw_ | I'm impressed! | 14:30 |
| m3m0 | google translate:) ok guys, closing the meeting, this gets logged :P | 14:30 |
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| m3m0 | #endmeeting | 14:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 28 14:30:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-07-28-13.59.html | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-07-28-13.59.txt | 14:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-07-28-13.59.log.html | 14:30 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 28 15:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:00 |
| dustins | \o | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| rraja | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
| jseiler | hi | 15:00 |
| tovchinnikova | \\// | 15:00 |
| aovchinnikov | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:00 |
| bswartz | dustins: :( | 15:01 |
| dustins | :( | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | #topic Stepping Down as Docs Liaison | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stepping Down as Docs Liaison (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
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| dustins | Unfortunately my downstream activities keep me too busy to devote the time to this that I'd really like to | 15:02 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:02 |
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| markstur | hi | 15:02 |
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| dustins | So I'm going to have to step down as the docs liaison at least for now | 15:02 |
| bswartz | thanks for your services thus far dustins | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | any other volunteers want to take over as docs liason? | 15:03 |
| dustins | bswartz: no problem, I hope I helped out | 15:03 |
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| vponomaryov | gouthamr ? =) | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | thanks dustins! | 15:03 |
| bswartz | dustins: maybe you could expain briefly what you did as docs liason so people know what they would be signing up for | 15:03 |
| dustins | Sure thing | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: i can help, but one liason-ing at a time :) | 15:04 |
| dustins | So you're expected to attend the docs meetings, which alternate between a US and an EMEA time zone | 15:04 |
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| dustins | And make sure that the upstream docs contain the most up to date information from your project | 15:04 |
| * bswartz doesn't think he attends all the meetings he should... | 15:04 | |
| dustins | Also to make sure you're following the guidelines that the other projects use | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | I'm probably the liason for something and I need to add more meetings to my calendar | 15:05 |
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| dustins | (forewarning, the EMEA meeting takes place at 0200-0300 EDT) | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: thank god for irc logs and mailing list, rants have enough channels.. | 15:05 |
| dustins | I...uhh...never went to that one | 15:05 |
| dustins | :) | 15:05 |
| mkoderer | hello | 15:05 |
| bswartz | dustins: is attendance of every meeting expected or do people normally go every other week (when the meeting is during daylight for them) | 15:06 |
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| dustins | It's every other week | 15:06 |
| bswartz | okay that makes sense | 15:06 |
| dustins | They have complained at low attendance in all meetings from a good portion of projects | 15:06 |
| bswartz | dustins: please update the wiki so it's obvious that the liason seat is empty and we'll see if anyone else wants to volunteer | 15:06 |
| dustins | bswartz: Will do | 15:07 |
| bswartz | I know there are others involved with manila and docs who might not be here right now | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | oh and who has a link to that wiki | 15:07 |
| bswartz | for the record | 15:07 |
| dustins | one sec... | 15:07 |
| bswartz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 15:07 |
| dustins | Yeah, that one | 15:07 |
| bswartz | #topic N-3 Review focus | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-newton3-priorities | 15:08 |
| bswartz | thanks to all who posted links to this etherpad | 15:08 |
| bswartz | I changed the name to "focus" from "priorities" because I don't want to give the impression that we're trying to order them | 15:08 |
| bswartz | There is space under each feature/patch for reviewers to sign up | 15:09 |
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| cknight | bswartz: do you want non-core reviewers to sign up here? | 15:09 |
| bswartz | please sign up for what you're interested in reviewing, and if there's something nobody signs up for, I'll work on getting people to sign up | 15:09 |
| cknight | bswartz: patch owners need to know they have 2 cores' attention | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | non core reviewers can sign up but it's true we want 2 cores on top of that | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | gouthamr: if you sign up for everything you'll never get any work done! | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: i signed up for all those that i've already reviewed :D | 15:11 |
| cknight | bswartz: gouthamr and vponomaryov review everything (somehow) | 15:11 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: are you going as far as downloading and running them? | 15:11 |
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| * gouthamr pixie dust and magic | 15:11 | |
| gouthamr | bswartz: yes, in some cases.. | 15:11 |
| bswartz | okay that's great | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | review 80lvl | 15:11 |
| bswartz | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: challenge accepted | 15:12 |
| bswartz | just a reminder this is R-10, and feature freeze is R-5 | 15:12 |
| bswartz | so we have driver freeze coming up in 2 weeks, FPF in 3 weeks | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I really hope some of the big stuff can get merged before those dates so we can focus on new patches which inevitably show up right before the deadline | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | of course we shouldn't see any new "major" stuff after last week due to the major feature deadline passing | 15:14 |
| bswartz | that's all I had for today | 15:14 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:15 |
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| * tovchinnikova steps forward with UI question | 15:16 | |
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| tovchinnikova | There's a bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila-ui/+spec/cg-support | 15:16 |
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| tovchinnikova | I would like to know if anyone works on it or not | 15:16 |
| tovchinnikova | If no I could help | 15:16 |
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| vponomaryov | tovchinnikova: that feature will be removed soon | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | tovchinnikova: replaced* | 15:17 |
| bswartz | tovchinnikova: yes that feature is going to be reworked | 15:17 |
| bswartz | I will mark the BP obsolete to avoid confusion | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | tovchinnikova: so, better to wait for "share groups" feature | 15:17 |
| tovchinnikova | oic :) | 15:17 |
| tbarron | are we marking experimental features as experimental in UI? | 15:17 |
| cknight | tovchinnikova: We'd love to have you work on the UI for the replacement (share groups) | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | I anyone working on share groups? | 15:18 |
| cknight | bswartz: yes, Alex & Andrew are | 15:18 |
| tovchinnikova | ok, I'll keep an eye on share groups :) | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | it's absent from the etherpad | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | tovchinnikova: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/design/manila-generic-groups | 15:19 |
| cknight | bswartz: I'll add it | 15:19 |
| bswartz | ameade, akerr: what's the status on share groups? | 15:19 |
| ameade | bswartz: got a few more unittests to write and a couple tweaks | 15:19 |
| tovchinnikova | vponomaryov, thanks | 15:19 |
| ameade | then ready for review, there are a number of functional tests left | 15:19 |
| bswartz | ameade: is it in the state where someone could add the UI bits right now? | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | tovchinnikova: and https://review.openstack.org/315730 | 15:20 |
| bswartz | or are the UI bits already proposed? | 15:20 |
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| ameade | bswartz: no unfortunatly i haven't done any of the ui work | 15:20 |
| bswartz | ameade: it sounds like tovchinnikova is volunteering... | 15:20 |
| ameade | :) | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | ameade, are you upset? )) | 15:20 |
| bswartz | can you work with her to get a BP proposed and link her to any docs she'll need to look at? | 15:21 |
| ameade | sure, in double meetings atm | 15:21 |
| bswartz | double meetings is better than triple | 15:22 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:22 |
| bswartz | alright anything else for today? | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | okay thanks everyone | 15:23 |
| tbarron | bye | 15:23 |
| bswartz | back to reviewing | 15:23 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 28 15:23:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-07-28-15.00.html | 15:23 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-07-28-15.00.txt | 15:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-07-28-15.00.log.html | 15:23 |
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| tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 28 17:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
| tmcpeak | #chair hyakuhei | 17:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: hyakuhei tmcpeak | 17:00 |
| dg____ | hey | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | yo! | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | yo doog | 17:00 |
| lhinds | hai | 17:00 |
| elmiko | o/ | 17:00 |
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| singlethink | o/ | 17:00 |
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| HoloIRCUser4 | o/ | 17:00 |
| browne | o/ | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:00 |
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| ccneill | o/ | 17:00 |
| mdong | o/ | 17:00 |
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| sicarie | o/ | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | allright | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | good turnout, let's get started | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Syntribos | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | ccneill: what's up this week? | 17:01 |
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| ccneill | kewl | 17:01 |
| ccneill | so I've been out for a few OSSP meetings recently, not sure what all we've covered already | 17:02 |
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| ccneill | but we are now rid of OpenCAFE as a code dependency (though we still need to update the docs to reflect that fully) | 17:02 |
| ccneill | we're working on a more intuitive output format that's less driven by unit test dynamics and is more useful (we think) for security testing | 17:03 |
| ccneill | er, sorry - *command-line output | 17:03 |
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| browne | i hooked up syntribos with openstack proposal bot. so now the project will get all of the easy updates to requirements.txt | 17:03 |
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| ccneill | yep, thanks browne! | 17:03 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | browne: ++ | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus: long time no see | 17:03 |
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| ccneill | we're also working on our debug log right now for logging useful info about tests/requests/etc. | 17:03 |
| sigmavirus | tmcpeak: yeah :/ | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus: you finally emerge from your block of Wisconsin ice? :P | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | ccneill: you guys end up going with oslo? | 17:04 |
| sigmavirus | *makes wooly mammoth noises* | 17:04 |
| ccneill | we're sticking with python logging for the moment | 17:04 |
| ccneill | because oslo.log added so many cli options that we don't think we really need atm | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, python logging is solid | 17:04 |
| browne | is there a summit talk on syntribos? | 17:05 |
| ccneill | and it's pretty easy to plug in if we decide we do want those features in the future | 17:05 |
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| ccneill | err.. not sure | 17:05 |
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| ccneill | when is the summit anyway? | 17:05 |
| * ccneill is unprepared <_< | 17:05 | |
| tmcpeak | what's a summit :P | 17:05 |
| * elmiko waves at sigmavirus | 17:05 | |
| browne | end of Octobert | 17:05 |
| browne | October | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | 25-28th | 17:05 |
| * sigmavirus waves at elmiko | 17:06 | |
| ccneill | I imagine we could piece something together by then :) | 17:06 |
| ccneill | I don't know if it is formally on the agenda though | 17:06 |
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| browne | oh then its not | 17:06 |
| browne | voting for the summit is going on now | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus | ccneill: for the summit submissions were due a while ago | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | You guys should have something in for the X-project and Security design sessions | 17:06 |
| ccneill | d'oh. I'm mixing up summits and midcycles | 17:06 |
| ccneill | you're talking Barcelona | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Aaah | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | So midcycle is two weeks-ish | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-security-midcycle-N | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | oh yeah, we should definitely have stuff at midcycle | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:07 |
| ccneill | we haven't submitted any formal talks about it yet because things have felt pretty chaotic | 17:07 |
| ccneill | but (helped by the fact that we've started actually writing unit tests) things should be declining in craziness over time | 17:08 |
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| mdong | yeah, I think we’ve decided that we weren’t quite ready for this summit | 17:08 |
| ccneill | I do have a question for all you smart people: has anyone figured out how to get rid of or otherwise modify the --config-file and --config-dir options auto-added by oslo.config? | 17:08 |
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| tmcpeak | I'd like to hack on it at least in Austin | 17:08 |
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| tmcpeak | maybe I'll slam some redbulls and attempt to break IBM things with it :D | 17:09 |
| ccneill | tmcpeak: let us know how it goes :D | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | for sure | 17:09 |
| ccneill | I think we have a somewhat-stable idea of what 1.0 will look like | 17:09 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 17:09 |
| elmiko | ccneill: i think you may need to duck-punch some of the oslo.config classes to override those options | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | hey woodster_ | 17:10 |
| woodster_ | hyakuhei: hello! | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | duck-punch ? | 17:10 |
| ccneill | our meeting notes from 7/19 have some of our tentative plans for 1.0 and beyond: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/syntribos-planning | 17:10 |
| elmiko | think, forceable ducktyping ;) | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:10 |
| elmiko | yeah, i love that one | 17:10 |
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| ccneill | yeah, I was afraid we'd have to go a little deeper than just passing it some kwargs :( | 17:11 |
| ccneill | we'll figure it out one way or another.. | 17:11 |
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| ccneill | so one other question that I have for y'all: what do you think about an #openstack-syntribos channel? | 17:11 |
| elmiko | well, it makes sense though. oslo.config provides a great interface for adding those config files, so it makes sense from that perspective | 17:11 |
| ccneill | I notice that we sort of dominate the discussion in #openstack-security these days, and I don't know if that's a good or bad thing | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | I'm fine with it, although we never went that route for Bandit | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | ccneill: I think that's fine | 17:12 |
| browne | ccneill: i'd stick with openstack-security | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | ccneill: no objection to that but I don’t think there’s any objection to you using -security | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | gives us opportunity to follow | 17:12 |
| ccneill | I just didn't know if it felt like scope creep for the openstack-security channel | 17:12 |
| elmiko | +1 to keep using -security, the s/n ratio isn't that bad in there | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | My preference would be to stay on -security but no big objection to you using something else if you really want to | 17:12 |
| ccneill | but if everyone's okay with it, I think we are | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, we had that for a while with Bandit too, it's fine | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | yupyup | 17:12 |
| elmiko | yeah, but openstack-sdks has several projects which use the channel. so, seems fine to me | 17:12 |
| browne | ccneill: creep away | 17:12 |
| ccneill | :) | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | its the main active project right now | 17:12 |
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| browne | somebody has to fill the silence in openstack-security channel right now | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | :'( | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | even the spanish bots don't like us anymore | 17:13 |
| ccneill | lolol | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | rofl | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | they've moved on to Kubernetes | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | nah, cloudfoundry bro | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | They’re all hitting up Slack now :P | 17:14 |
| browne | ++ love Slack | 17:14 |
| ccneill | so I think that's about all for us this week | 17:14 |
| elmiko | tmcpeak: oh seriously? | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | haha | 17:14 |
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| browne | wish there was a openstack slack team | 17:14 |
| ccneill | mdong: did I miss anything you can think of? | 17:14 |
| ccneill | I think our Intel friends and michaelxin are out at the moment | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | browne: nonsense browne. We use IRC bc we're l33t | 17:14 |
| elmiko | irc4lyfe | 17:14 |
| mdong | nah, I think you’ve covered everything | 17:15 |
| ccneill | elmiko: +1 | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | #topic OSSN | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm supposed to have written one, but I did not because I suck (again) | 17:15 |
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| hyakuhei | lol | 17:15 |
| * sigmavirus wishes he had time to write one | 17:15 | |
| tmcpeak | I've been working on same day job stuff… if nothing else I'll write one for sure in Austin | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah we have a sprint lined up for the midcycle | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | Should clear or almost clear the queue | 17:16 |
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| lhinds | I have 0069 underway, but thinking it might be a better fit for the security guide | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | lhinds kindly published 64 for me, nkinder be damned :P | 17:16 |
| lhinds | this is the qbr ipv6 bypass to get at the host OS | 17:16 |
| elmiko | the midcycle ossn sprint was really valuable when i attended in the past | 17:16 |
| sicarie | lhinds: both, ideally | 17:16 |
| lhinds | sicarie: makes sense | 17:16 |
| sicarie | The ossns are more informal | 17:16 |
| lhinds | oh authors are updated on wiki now as well | 17:17 |
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| tmcpeak | lhinds: +1 | 17:17 |
| sicarie | So it can be an outline, then the sec guide has style constraints, etc.... | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | thanks for doing that! | 17:17 |
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| lhinds | tmcpeak: np | 17:18 |
| sicarie__ | +1 it’ll be a really good addition | 17:18 |
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| tmcpeak | cool | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | probably it for OSSN? | 17:18 |
| lhinds | think so | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | lhinds is pulling the sled by himself now, we'll have to make sure to get a bunch done in Austin | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | lhinds: you coming to Austin? | 17:19 |
| lhinds | not sure about Austin, but will be at barca | 17:19 |
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| hyakuhei | Excellent | 17:19 |
| lhinds | will see what I can do for Austin | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Though FYI there’s no Uber in Barca, which is deeply upsetting for me. | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, would be great to have you there | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | lol hyakuhei | 17:19 |
| mdong | oh, so no different from Austin, then | 17:20 |
| dg____ | hyakuhei fairly sure there is no uber in austin now either | 17:20 |
| lhinds | hyakuhei: +1 I hate feeling ripped off by local taxis | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | WHAT?! | 17:20 |
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| ccneill | v_v | 17:20 |
| ccneill | don't remind me... | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | What was the backup location for the Midcycle? | 17:20 |
| mdong | haha | 17:20 |
| ccneill | there are, however, a preponderance of more-expensive, smaller competitors | 17:20 |
| dg____ | whos idea was it to go to texas in august anyway? :P | 17:21 |
| ccneill | but now I feel SO MUCH SAFER with all the drunk drivers on the road | 17:21 |
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| * ccneill is still a little frustrated by this, if you couldn't tell | 17:21 | |
| hyakuhei | Damn it. | 17:21 |
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| tmcpeak | ccneill: yeah, you guys "voted" though :# | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | Anyway - thanks again lhinds | 17:21 |
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| mdong | don’t worry, when you take a Fasten from the airport at a 30% premium compared to Uber, you’ll at least be sure that their drivers are fingerprinted | 17:22 |
| ccneill | sigh.. tmcpeak: it was Mother's day weekend, all UT students were mostly out of town, and I think no one saw the "no" vote coming | 17:22 |
| dg____ | isnt the IBM office out in the middle of nowhere too? | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | Auxit :P | 17:22 |
| ccneill | <_< | 17:22 |
| ccneill | kinda | 17:22 |
| ccneill | it's definitely kinda far from the airport | 17:23 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah, it looks like a nice enough office though. | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:23 |
| dg____ | #action hyakuhei rent a truck for the week | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Sec Guide | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sec Guide (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:23 | |
| tmcpeak | dg____: +A ! | 17:23 |
| mdong | it’s in a really nice part of town, but yeah, pretty far from the airport | 17:23 |
| ccneill | ^ | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | some lifted monstrosity with 50" tires | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | sicarie … | 17:23 |
| lhinds | a paragraph on rate-limiting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348290/ | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: | 17:23 |
| sicarie | awesome, I did not see that lhinds - I’ll take a look shortly | 17:24 |
| dg____ | can we circle back to mid-cycle logistics in AOB? | 17:24 |
| lhinds | tried to keep it the same size as the other sections and quick to the point | 17:24 |
| sicarie | So i started a review, got through the Neutron chapter, and promptly got distracted | 17:24 |
| woodster_ | Even San Antonio has Uber, just sayin' | 17:24 |
| lhinds | thanks sicarie | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | dg____: yup | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | this looks good lhinds! | 17:24 |
| elmiko | i haven't created much for the sec-guide recently, but i can certainly check out a few reviews | 17:25 |
| sicarie | i think i opened ~5 bugs as a result of my partial read-through | 17:25 |
| sicarie | I have a set of notes | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | dg____: yeah for sure | 17:25 |
| sicarie | most of the stuff is “we should make sure this code example is still accurate with the latest version of $X" | 17:25 |
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| sicarie | and most of that is in the compute chapter | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | I wonder how many things we could hammer out at the midcycle for this? | 17:26 |
| sicarie | I expect Neutron to be different as they gave much more theoretical advice taht was version-specific | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | we should really try given our desire to put guide in steady state | 17:26 |
| sicarie | hyakuhei: quite a bit fo the first 11 chapters | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | Interesting | 17:26 |
| sicarie | I expect Neutron to require a significant overhaul, I remember being very confused the last time I read it, but that was a while ago | 17:27 |
| sicarie | so yeah, i’m going to be able to focus on it again a bit this week, so i’ll keep going, and see where i can get | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | we don't have SME's for Neutron, do we? | 17:28 |
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| sicarie | nope | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Haven’t had for a long time IIRC | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | anybody have Neutron friends? | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | We could look up who their core-sec is | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | sicarie: I guess you guys did that already? | 17:28 |
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| sicarie | not core sec | 17:28 |
| sicarie | we went with the neutron core who was docs lead | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | or just drop by their IRC room and shout a bit? | 17:29 |
| sicarie | I have not yet done that | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | Ah fair enough | 17:29 |
| sicarie | i wanted to have a few more actionable things before i did that | 17:29 |
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| hyakuhei | “IF WE DONT GET HELP WERE GOING TO REMOVE NEUTRON FROM THE SECURITY GUIDE COMPLETELY” kthnxbye…. | 17:29 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:29 |
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| sicarie | lol | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | seems reasonable | 17:30 |
| elmiko | i'll do that if i can quote hyakuhei ;) | 17:30 |
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| hyakuhei | Quote away :P | 17:30 |
| elmiko | we've gone to ultimate stick mode! | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | lool | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | ok, | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | anything else on guide? | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | narp | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Midcycle | 17:32 |
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| hyakuhei | I’d like to see more suggestions for topic at the midcycle: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-security-midcycle-N | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | also we can cover logistics now dg | 17:32 |
| dg____ | woo | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | So I’ve got to go sign up to Fasten now…. Damn it Austin | 17:33 |
| dg____ | is that like a taxi app? | 17:33 |
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| mdong | it’s Uber but legal | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | :| | 17:33 |
| * ccneill slams head on desk some more.. | 17:34 | |
| hyakuhei | haha | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | So long as I can sign up with a UK phone and put my company CC in it I’m happy | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | Though Uber will always have my heart | 17:34 |
| dg____ | should we get hotels in downtown and then catch a taxi to the office, or should we get hotels out whever ibm is based? | 17:34 |
| dg____ | hyakuhei +1 | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | good Q | 17:34 |
| ccneill | dg____: you'll be taking pretty long cab rides from downtown every day | 17:34 |
| mdong | commuting to/from downtown is always a pain | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | yeah but otherwise we'll be taking long cab rides at night :P | 17:35 |
| ccneill | http://www.simon.com/mall/the-domain | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | location 11501 Burnet Rd, Austin, TX 78758 | 17:35 |
| ccneill | hmmm.. this may not be the best site for this | 17:35 |
| ccneill | but there are hotels in The Domain (nearby outdoor shopping mall) that are much closer | 17:36 |
| mdong | basically the question is how much your tolerance for traffic is | 17:36 |
| dg____ | ok | 17:36 |
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| dg____ | i guess we can always get taxis into town in the evening | 17:36 |
| dg____ | just without uber its going to be so much harder | 17:36 |
| ccneill | dg____: if I told you how I *really* feel about the Uber thing, we'd be here another hour lol | 17:37 |
| dg____ | i think we understand ccneill | 17:37 |
| ccneill | suffice it to say, I was so pissed off, I watched hours-long city council meetings to try to understand how we went so horribly wrong | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:37 |
| ccneill | :P | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | I don’t know what hotel I’m in yet, someone who understands such things will tell me tomorrow | 17:37 |
| dg____ | ccneill thats basically how we feel about brexit | 17:37 |
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| tmcpeak | let it never be said ccneill doesn't know how to party | 17:37 |
| mdong | haha | 17:37 |
| ccneill | lolol | 17:37 |
| dg____ | hyakuhei you just gettting your admin to put you in the cheapest one around? | 17:38 |
| mdong | I’ve known people who voted no to Uber just because Uber was spamming their mailboxes with too many ads telling them to vote | 17:38 |
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| hyakuhei | OMFG FASTEN sucks | 17:38 |
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| tmcpeak | we should work out hotel suggestions | 17:39 |
| dg____ | ccneill how bad is traffic getting from downtown to the office in the mornings? | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | dg____: she’ll put me in some hotel sure | 17:39 |
| ccneill | there's also one called GetMe[somethingorsomewhere] | 17:39 |
| mdong | don’t use GetMe | 17:39 |
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| ccneill | dg____: been a while since I made the drive, I don't imagine it's *too* terrible going from downtown to North Austin (most people are going the opposite direction) | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | I asked one of the IBM guys where to stay | 17:40 |
| dg____ | thanks ccneill | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | he says Westin and Home2 | 17:41 |
| ccneill | at least in the mornings. in the evenings, traffic can be pretty atrocious getting back to downtown (~5-6PM) | 17:41 |
| dg____ | ok | 17:41 |
| dg____ | thanks | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | I’ll ask fernando to put some recommendations on the etherpad | 17:41 |
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| hyakuhei | Though locals please feel free to do so also | 17:41 |
| dg____ | cool, thanks | 17:41 |
| ccneill | I think the various hotels in The Domain are the best from a distance perspective, but it depends on what you want to do while you're here | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | residence inn and Home2 according to hotels.com | 17:42 |
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| ccneill | there are lots of cool shops/restaurants/etc. at the Domain, but it's not downtown Austin/6th street | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | maybe we can do downtown one night and chill around the others | 17:42 |
| dg____ | yeah that works | 17:42 |
| dg____ | im not looking for the paris experience again | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | lol, I dont know what that means but I second your opinion | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | #topic New Sec Core | 17:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Sec Core (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:43 | |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: I added this for this meeting | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | seems like we could use another sec core, since nkinder hasn't had much time | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:43 |
| elmiko | +1 | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | lhinds volunteered | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | So we have two “types” of core | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | Those who do OSSN magic | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | I think he's a natural choice given all the great work he's done | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | Actually no, we just have one in this context . ignore me | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | I mean the embargoed issues type | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | lhinds: I’ll talk to you about it :) Your work on OSSNs has been extremely valuable | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | so how do we get him set up? | 17:45 |
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| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:45 |
| lhinds | sounds good hyakuhei | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | #topic AOB | 17:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:45 | |
| hyakuhei | Core is about more than just that though, there’s a responsibility to consult with and help inform the VMT on complicated vulnerabilities etc | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | So we’ll chat about it a bit more | 17:45 |
| ccneill | anyone going to DEFCON this year? :) | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | yep yep | 17:46 |
| lhinds | sure, np | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | ccneill: I am | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | you? | 17:46 |
| ccneill | yeeep | 17:46 |
| elmiko | neat | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | awesome! | 17:46 |
| ccneill | we have a few Rackers going this year I believe | 17:46 |
| singlethink | Not I, but a bunch of my Cisco coworkers are | 17:46 |
| mdong | o/ | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | Just a reminder about the summit voting: #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/vote-for-speakers/ | 17:46 |
| sicarie | +1 vote early, vote often (as they say in Chicago) | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | sweet | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | anything else? | 17:48 |
| lhinds | is there an easy way of finding sec talks? | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | I'm not going to be able to attend next week and possibly the week after | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | and then week after that is Austin :) | 17:48 |
| lhinds | or rather, anyone here have talks up? | 17:48 |
| sicarie | you can list by track (security, for example) top left drop-down menu | 17:48 |
| lhinds | ahh ok, thanks sicarie | 17:48 |
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| hyakuhei | There’s a drop down but no hot-linking | 17:49 |
| sicarie | hyakuhei, tmcpeak, gmurphy all have one | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | (by design) | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | as does sicarie | 17:49 |
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| lhinds | got it | 17:49 |
| sicarie | psh, that guys sucks at speaking | 17:49 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:50 |
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| tmcpeak | nice to see Recon one :P | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | after all this time | 17:50 |
| dg____ | is there going to be a hyakuhei vs ade rap battle? | 17:50 |
| sicarie | yeah, stan put one up on that | 17:50 |
| hyakuhei | We have a talk in yeah | 17:50 |
| elmiko | dg____: that would be epic | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | ++++ | 17:50 |
| dg____ | :D | 17:50 |
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| hyakuhei | Sigh. Fasten doesn’t work with UK credit cards. | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | I will prioritize voting for any kind of hyakuhei rap battle | 17:50 |
| * hyakuhei facedesks | 17:50 | |
| dg____ | fml | 17:50 |
| gmurphy | lol | 17:51 |
| dg____ | can you take a swipe of ben's amex while you're in seattle the week before? | 17:51 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: you have to use the other sketchy one ccneill said not to use | 17:51 |
| mdong | Fare is another option | 17:51 |
| * hyakuhei cries | 17:51 | |
| tmcpeak | just go on the buddy system, you'll be fine | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:51 |
| tmcpeak | bring your whistle | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | I’ll hire a pushbike :D | 17:52 |
| singlethink | Is hitch hiking legal in Austin? | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | In Austin, in August. | 17:52 |
| mdong | I’d honestly get a regular taxi before using GetMe, it’s just an awful app | 17:52 |
| tmcpeak | lol "GetMe" | 17:52 |
| tmcpeak | doesn't sound sketchy at all | 17:52 |
| tmcpeak | this is the special app we have for our British friends | 17:52 |
| mdong | and if you’ve got an iPhone, RideAustin is the city-government approved app | 17:53 |
| ccneill | oh, almost forgot | 17:53 |
| ccneill | The Domain has a shuttle service that will drive you around the whole mall | 17:53 |
| ccneill | and I'm pretty sure IBM is just across the street basically | 17:53 |
| ccneill | (I used to be a shuttle driver in college :P) | 17:53 |
| tmcpeak | that's good. My top priority is making sure my city government approves of my ride sharing choices :P | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | lol I’m loving the local knowledge | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: don’t tease him. | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | This is hard enough as it is | 17:53 |
| tmcpeak | haha | 17:54 |
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| ccneill | tmcpeak: you'll be super-safe as you wait in the blistering heat for your taxi | 17:54 |
| sicarie | hyakuhei: you could craigslist it out :) | 17:54 |
| tmcpeak | so yeah, … Rob can rent a truck | 17:54 |
| hyakuhei | lulz | 17:54 |
| dg____ | i think thats probably the best plan | 17:54 |
| tmcpeak | get some real murica | 17:54 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:54 |
| elmiko | make sure it's a uhaul | 17:54 |
| ccneill | nahh you need a big ol' Ford F350 ;) | 17:55 |
| ccneill | just hop in the back | 17:55 |
| mdong | ohh, the other other option | 17:55 |
| mdong | is to join the rideshare facebook group | 17:55 |
| ccneill | lol if you're daring | 17:55 |
| hyakuhei | Sigh. Phone app lets you sign up from the UK but CC’s break. Webapp doesn’t let you sign up outside the US. | 17:55 |
| mdong | which is a real thing | 17:55 |
| elmiko | sure, that works, but it's more fun to have a bunch of folks rattling around the back of a giant uhaul XD | 17:55 |
| ccneill | they've started impounding peoples' cars for offering rides on that | 17:55 |
| ccneill | -_- | 17:55 |
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| mdong | and the final option is to spoof your GPS location to request a ride outside of city limits | 17:55 |
| dg____ | freedom! | 17:55 |
| hyakuhei | oh and then there’s this bit: https://www.dropbox.com/s/avs5eyr50jzlwom/Screenshot%202016-07-28%2018.55.43.png?dl=0 | 17:55 |
| hyakuhei | So errrr. Noooope. | 17:55 |
| mdong | and then call your uber driver to tell him where to actually pick you up | 17:55 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: wow... wtf | 17:56 |
| hyakuhei | yup | 17:56 |
| ccneill | LOL | 17:56 |
| ccneill | WUT | 17:56 |
| sicarie | awesome | 17:56 |
| tmcpeak | they're background checking you? | 17:56 |
| ccneill | wooow | 17:56 |
| mdong | wait, are you sure you didn’t download the driver app? | 17:57 |
| ccneill | ^ | 17:57 |
| mdong | instead of the passenger app? | 17:57 |
| lhinds | that would be enough for me to nope out there | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | That’s on the webapp, probably the driver bit yeah | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | Not paying lots of attention atm | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | To the app, | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | doing IRC meeting stuff y’know :P | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | anyway, lets wrap it! | 17:57 |
| tmcpeak | wrap it? | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | ^^ | 17:57 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:57 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 28 17:57:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:57 |
| tmcpeak | thanks everybody! | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-07-28-17.00.html | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-07-28-17.00.txt | 17:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-07-28-17.00.log.html | 17:57 |
| elmiko | thanks tmcpeak ! | 17:57 |
| elmiko | o/ | 17:58 |
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| ccneill | sorry we have to plan around living in the stone ages in Austin, but we'll get through it :P | 17:58 |
| ccneill | o/ | 17:58 |
| lhinds | thanks all | 17:58 |
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