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| edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 29 14:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
| edleafe | Anyone around today? | 14:00 |
| Yingxin | o/ | 14:00 |
| * edleafe has a feeling things will be quick | 14:00 | |
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| * Yingxin agreed | 14:01 | |
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| * bauzas yawns | 14:02 | |
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| edleafe | Let's wait one more minute. I know that cdent is not around today | 14:02 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 14:02 |
| edleafe | Well, let's start. | 14:03 |
| edleafe | #topic Specs & reviews | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs & reviews (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:03 | |
| edleafe | There is one spec that seems to be bogged down | 14:04 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312696 | 14:04 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 14:04 |
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| edleafe | The general idea is sound, but there is some pushback on the details | 14:04 |
| edleafe | If everyone could review that and add their ideas to it, that would help | 14:05 |
| edleafe | There was nothing added to the agenda | 14:05 |
| edleafe | So are there any other specs or reviews we should note? | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | custom-resource-classes was something we tried to work on, without being an hard requirement for Newton | 14:06 |
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| bauzas | so, let's merge it for Ocata | 14:06 |
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| bauzas | FWIW, I began to implement it | 14:06 |
| bauzas | (locally) | 14:06 |
| edleafe | bauzas: right, but it doesn't look like the spec has agreement | 14:07 |
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| edleafe | In any case, let's discuss on the spec | 14:07 |
| edleafe | Moving on | 14:07 |
| edleafe | #topic Opens | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Opens (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:08 | |
| edleafe | There was some confusion about the placement API in Newton | 14:08 |
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| edleafe | The main thing is that we've resolved that and have a path forward | 14:08 |
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| edleafe | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-db | 14:08 |
| edleafe | That's cdent's plan of attack | 14:09 |
| edleafe | Since he's not here today, please add any comments to that etherpad | 14:09 |
| edleafe | Next up: division of labor | 14:09 |
| edleafe | I added this because it seems like cdent has become a bottleneck to some degree | 14:10 |
| edleafe | I'd like to figure out a way to spread the load better | 14:10 |
| prateek_ | Hi guys, i have started contributing to openstack recently and have contributed some patches and would love to be a part of the subteam ! | 14:10 |
| edleafe | But since we don't have many people here today, let's table that discussion until our next meeting | 14:10 |
| edleafe | prateek_: Welcome! | 14:10 |
| prateek_ | thanks edleafe | 14:10 |
| prateek_ | ! | 14:10 |
| prateek_ | i thought it was a good time to chip in since the division of labor was going on | 14:11 |
| edleafe | prateek_: The best way to become involved is to review the specs for the work being done on the placement engine, and the resource provider changes | 14:11 |
| edleafe | prateek_: good - please be sure to come back in two weeks for the next meeting | 14:11 |
| edleafe | ...which brings up | 14:11 |
| prateek_ | thanks edleafe , | 14:12 |
| edleafe | #info No meeting next Monday, September 5 | 14:12 |
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| edleafe | because it's a big US holiday that even I get to take off :) | 14:12 |
| Yingxin | edleafe: enjoy the holiday | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Anything else to discuss? | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Yingxin: thanks! | 14:12 |
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| * edleafe was right about this being quick! | 14:13 | |
| woodster_ | edleafe: so no pressing CRs before feature freeze? | 14:13 |
| edleafe | woodster_: Nobody added any to the agenda | 14:13 |
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| woodster_ | Cool thanks | 14:14 |
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| edleafe | OK, thanks everyone! | 14:14 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:14 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 14:14:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2016/nova_scheduler.2016-08-29-14.00.html | 14:14 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2016/nova_scheduler.2016-08-29-14.00.txt | 14:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2016/nova_scheduler.2016-08-29-14.00.log.html | 14:14 |
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| dasm | o/ | 15:00 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_upgrades | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 29 15:00:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | yo yo yo | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_upgrades' | 15:01 |
| ihrachys | hi folks! | 15:01 |
| dasanind_ | hi | 15:01 |
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| ihrachys | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-Upgrades-Subteam Agenda | 15:01 |
| electrocucaracha | o/ | 15:01 |
| manjeets_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| ihrachys | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| tonytan4ever | o/ | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | I have nothing specific, but note we have newton-3 milestone cut-off this week | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | some time after that, stable/newton branch will be created | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | which should open master for Ocata development | 15:02 |
| sindhu | hi | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | at the moment the team works on delivering pending features targeted for Newton | 15:02 |
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| ihrachys | so attention may be not ideal for things that are not targeted as such | 15:03 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: sometime this week means monday or friday? | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: deadline is Sep 1 | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | Thu | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | but stable branch will take a bit more to emerge | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | as history shows | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | any questions on the milestone impact? | 15:04 |
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| ihrachys | nope, moving on :) | 15:04 |
| tonytan4ever | One question | 15:04 |
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| manjeets_ | one from me as well | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | tonytan4ever: shoot | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: same | 15:04 |
| tonytan4ever | is there a feature freeze during the tim ? If yes, how long is the freeze going to be ? | 15:04 |
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| ihrachys | #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html Newton release schedule | 15:05 |
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| ihrachys | feature freeze is this week, happening with the milestone cut-off | 15:05 |
| manjeets_ | I have some patches which were dependent on patch relocating l3 models, how long it would take to clear l3, if it is going to take long then i can remove the dependency | 15:05 |
| manjeets_ | for other patches | 15:05 |
| tonytan4ever | I see thanks. | 15:06 |
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| ihrachys | after that moment and until master is open for Ocata, new features are generally hold off except when you get an exception from PTL | 15:06 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: ideally we remove dependency from l3 one because it won't land until master is open | 15:06 |
| tonytan4ever | Seems like all the way to Sep 2nd. | 15:06 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets_: due to large number of conflicts that would ensue with it landing | 15:06 |
| manjeets_ | okay need to do that | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | usually stable branches are cut off around RC1 | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | meaning we'll have 1-2 weeks of tight control of the gate | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | during that time it will be hard to justify landing anything non-release critical | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | ok, I hope it's clear. let's move on. | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | #topic Partial Multinode Grenade | 15:08 |
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| ihrachys | for linuxbridge, I asked jschwarz and abregman lately to take a look at what's missing there | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | at least we need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346282/ to land in devstack | 15:09 |
| manjeets_ | for multinode grenade do we just need to add gate jobs for testing upgrades ? | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | but for some reason it does not want to, even with W+1 | 15:09 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346282/ does not want to land, can you try to W+1 it once more? | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: we already have jobs, both dvr and legacy | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: we need a linuxbridge one though, the job is present in experimental gate but it currently fails due to some pieces missing in devstack and devstack-gate. | 15:10 |
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| manjeets_ | what are the missing bits for multinode grenade then ? | 15:10 |
| electrocucaracha | Revert "Revert"? | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: there are also concerns around whether we run all the needed tests, but that's a separate story | 15:11 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: yeah, the first attempt broke the gate so was reverted :) | 15:11 |
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| ihrachys | multiple Reverts are usually a monument of shame for those who pushed the first time :) | 15:11 |
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| tonytan4ever | double negatives... | 15:11 |
| manjeets_ | lol | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | there is more to linuxbridge job than this patch. some work will probably belong to devstack-gate and may project-config. we'll see. | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | also, armax wanted the whole neutron team to move from testing against legacy l3 mode towards dvr+ha gating only. | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | but that's probably in scope of some broader discussion on how we gate, not just grenade. | 15:13 |
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| ihrachys | otherwise, I'll wait until jschwarz gets to the job and has progress to report. :) | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | moving on to... | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | #topic Object implementation | 15:14 |
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| ihrachys | ok, P1 (ports, networks, secgroups) are either in tree or on review | 15:14 |
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| ihrachys | I haven't seen much traction from push-notifications author (kevinbenton) which sucks but... what can I do? :) | 15:14 |
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| ihrachys | networks: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269658/ and ports: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351368/24 | 15:15 |
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| ihrachys | I don't believe there is any known issue there, we just wait for kevinbenton to get to those | 15:15 |
| electrocucaracha | regarding P1 objects, do we have plans to integrate them in newton 3? | 15:15 |
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| manjeets_ | i think port and network (intro ovo ) are very close to clear | 15:15 |
| electrocucaracha | I'm referring to subnet which hasn't been integrated | 15:16 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: I had such plans, but in the end it all depends on whether kevinbenton will have time to make use of them in push-notifications. | 15:16 |
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| ihrachys | the latter may as well slip into Ocata, in which case there is no rush to land those in Newton | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: integrations are out of scope for Newton | 15:16 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: this work should happen start of Ocata though | 15:17 |
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| manjeets_ | ihrachys, would integration be high priority in ocata ? | 15:17 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: yes, as well as convertion of all the code base to objects. | 15:17 |
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| electrocucaracha | it would be nice to have an idea how long take us to merge a single object since the creation | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: this, and making sure that all is ready in tree for contract-less upgrades. | 15:18 |
| dasm | ihrachys: which bp covers it? that one? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/online-upgrades | 15:18 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: it really depends on where you stand in terms of framework. This cycle we spent significant time to prepare base class for actual usage. | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: some of us believe that now it should be an easier path | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | dasm: this bp covers contract-less migrations | 15:19 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: I'm one of them :) | 15:19 |
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| ihrachys | dasm: another one is for object adoption: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | the latter is a dependency for the former | 15:19 |
| dasm | ihrachys: thanks | 15:19 |
| dasm | electrocucaracha: always look for the bright side of life :) | 15:20 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: we have plenty of folks on board now, we should be at good position to make progress. | 15:20 |
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| ihrachys | that said, we have some N things still... | 15:20 |
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| ihrachys | one thing I spotted lately in gate logs is we issue a warning when sorting against keys that do not contain 'id' | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | it's a bug in oslo.db. | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | I sent a patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362061/ | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | will take some time to bake, and also we are past library freeze. | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | so no requirements bump for oslo.db for us | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | though I don't think it's needed if we just backport and release a new version. | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | in the end, the warning does not break anything... | 15:22 |
| ihrachys | another N thing is, we currently pass subnetpool objects instead of models to registered plugin extension functions | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | there are some patches in flight but they are not ready to merge | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348279/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348987/ | 15:23 |
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| ihrachys | jschwarz once started looking at those but I don't know the latest state | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | need to sync with John to make sure it's on radar for N | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | otherwise we potentially break some plugins | 15:23 |
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| ihrachys | (though we did not have any actual reports) | 15:24 |
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| ihrachys | anyone knows of more patches that are Newton-critical? | 15:24 |
| electrocucaracha | more likely he's waiting for passing jekins jobs | 15:24 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: considering pep8 fails there, it may take some time :P | 15:25 |
| ihrachys | I will ask John to take a look | 15:25 |
| ihrachys | oh I remember one more N thing | 15:26 |
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| electrocucaracha | well, the UT for ForeignKeyNotFoundError is not critical but it's nice to have it | 15:26 |
| electrocucaracha | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360699/ | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | the thing when passing an unknown query filter to API makes objects raise an exception. | 15:26 |
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| ihrachys | before objects, those queries were silently ignored, so we need to continue handling those gracefully | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz was looking at filtering those out at API layer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352809/ | 15:27 |
| ihrachys | but we realized that due to the hackish way we evolve and implement our API, we currently don't have enough info to do it there. | 15:27 |
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| ihrachys | (there are plans to move into this direction long term though) | 15:27 |
| ihrachys | so we will probably need to ignore validating filters in objects layer when filters are passed from API | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | afaik there is no patch for that right now | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | and I would appreciate someone to take the piece | 15:28 |
| electrocucaracha | I think that I can | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | basically, it would involve adding a hacking argument to get_objects like validate_filters=True and pass False where we pass filters from API layer. | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | like in get_subnetpools in base db class | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: ok cool, please take that on your plate :) | 15:29 |
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| ihrachys | also, lots of folks currently chew model relocation: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bug/1597913 | 15:30 |
| manjeets_ | ihrachys, I had question regarding online schema migrations ? | 15:30 |
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| ihrachys | I tried to land some of them where I saw they are ready AND don't result in conflicts. Most remaining may need to wait until Ocata is open though. Thanks everyone on getting this covered. | 15:30 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: shoot | 15:30 |
| manjeets_ | we support those with alembic migration scripts ? | 15:31 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets_: depending on what you mean | 15:31 |
| manjeets_ | we can update shcema without putting the service down ? just wanted to check how well they work ? | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: we split the scripts into expansion and contraction | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: only expansion scripts are safe to execute online | 15:32 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets_: so you still need to shutdown all services before contraction | 15:32 |
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| manjeets_ | there is no downtime while expansion ? | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: the plan is to forbid contract data migration in Ocata, and postpone schema contraction to when old data is not accessed | 15:32 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets_: expansion, no, but consider that it's mostly adding columns and tables, nothing time consuming | 15:33 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: most of downtime come from contraction | 15:33 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets_: but the last statement from PTL and other team members is, for Ocata, we start forbidding contraction, and will revert the resolution only if we can't manage the complexity of the new world. | 15:34 |
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| manjeets_ | cool, yea I tried running expansion and contract script at the same time expansion succeeded but contraction failed | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: so it will depend on the team that we deliver alternative solution to existing problems and help the other team members to evolve their features in contract-less manner. | 15:34 |
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| ihrachys | otherwise we will just revert to existing world, and with bad publicity to the rolling scenario :) | 15:35 |
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| ihrachys | everyone should feel motivated to kick ass :) | 15:35 |
| manjeets_ | ihrachys, if we forbid contract completely are we gonna keep dead fields in database ? | 15:35 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets_: schema contraction will happen, but just later (2 cycles since when you introduced the feature that triggered the change) | 15:36 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets_: so that at that time there are no neutron-servers that access that old columns/tables | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | it will be tricky to maintain, we'll see how well we thought it through on paper | 15:36 |
| manjeets_ | ok something like clean up after certain time , thanks | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | does that answer the question? | 15:36 |
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| manjeets_ | ihrachys, yes thank you very much | 15:37 |
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| dasm | ihrachys: afaik cinder is currently doing something like this (or at least preparing to do this) | 15:37 |
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| ihrachys | ok. any other stuff of whole team interest that you have on your plates? | 15:37 |
| manjeets_ | dasm you mean forbiding contract ? | 15:37 |
| dasm | manjeets_: i mean: rolling upgrade without contract phase. everything is phased-out in 3 releases. | 15:38 |
| manjeets_ | ok | 15:38 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: I was wondering if we have plans to merge the devref patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336518/ | 15:38 |
| dasm | manjeets_: fyi: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/rolling.upgrades.html | 15:38 |
| manjeets_ | thanks dasm | 15:39 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: we could take a look at that once we cover release critical bits | 15:39 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: at this point, most of the core team is deep into release preparation | 15:39 |
| ihrachys | so it will probably wait a bit for more feedback | 15:39 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: yeah, documentation who cares | 15:39 |
| ihrachys | :) | 15:40 |
| ihrachys | everyone does. but I don't see your vote there? | 15:40 |
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| ihrachys | please don't think it's on core reviewers to do all reviews. | 15:40 |
| electrocucaracha | I didn at some point | 15:40 |
| ihrachys | ok. eventually it will get its attention. probably some time closer to N release. | 15:41 |
| ihrachys | #topic Other patches on review | 15:42 |
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| ihrachys | anything non-object related to upgrades? | 15:42 |
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| ihrachys | great, nothing | 15:43 |
| ihrachys | #topic Open discussion | 15:43 |
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| manjeets_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354447/ | 15:43 |
| ihrachys | if you have questions/concerns/appraisals, shoot | 15:43 |
| manjeets_ | for this i saw dns-integration is already in list of api extensions | 15:43 |
| manjeets_ | but for some reason test crashes because it is not enabled | 15:43 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: you mean configured in gate_hook? | 15:44 |
| electrocucaracha | I just wondering if someone has tried to generate documentation -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353158/ | 15:44 |
| manjeets_ | ihrachys, yes | 15:44 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets_: yeah, and also the test would be skipped if it would not find the extension configured for tempest. | 15:44 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: sec, checking server logs | 15:44 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: http://logs.openstack.org/47/354447/1/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-api/9c278da/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_2016-08-12_00_35_43_143 | 15:45 |
| ihrachys | "Extension dns-integration not supported by any of loaded plugins" | 15:45 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets_: I think the reason is that ml2 extension driver is not enabled | 15:46 |
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| manjeets_ | should i enable that for adding tests for port and network dns ? | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | manjeets_: in http://logs.openstack.org/47/354447/1/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-api/9c278da/logs/etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini.txt.gz | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | extension_drivers = port_security,qos | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | note no dns | 15:47 |
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| manjeets_ | i see | 15:47 |
| manjeets_ | if i enable dns extension driver it would be fine then | 15:48 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets_: yeah, otherwise your tempest is configured to run dns tests but extension is off | 15:48 |
| manjeets_ | ok, thanks will fix that | 15:48 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: not following the intent of the question | 15:50 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: if you mean this should land, sure | 15:50 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: or was that a legit question? no, I have not tried it | 15:50 |
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| ihrachys | ok, probably we lost Victor :) | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | anyhow, I think it's all we needed to cover today. keep up the good work! | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | cheers and see you next Mon | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | or in the #neutron channel | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 15:52:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-08-29-15.00.html | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-08-29-15.00.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-08-29-15.00.log.html | 15:52 |
| electrocucaracha | sorry, thanks ihrachys | 15:52 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 29 16:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is harlowja_at_home. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, gcb, GheRivero, haypo | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for ihrachys, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for lifeless, lintan, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor, redrobot | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak, stevemar | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 16:00 |
| ihrachys | howdy | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | morning morning | 16:00 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | yo yo | 16:00 |
| bknudson | hi | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | howdayyy | 16:01 |
| osh | \o/ | 16:01 |
| ansmith | o/ | 16:01 |
| stevemar | o/ | 16:01 |
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| harlowja_at_home | alright, let's get started (probably quick today) | 16:01 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:01 |
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| ozamiatin | o/ | 16:02 |
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| harlowja_at_home | any issues from folks, the periodic jobs look fine | 16:02 |
| johnsom | Nothing to report here | 16:02 |
| bknudson | None for keystone that I've heard about | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | my guess is that a set of requirement updates are filtering into projects (the set of newton releases for oslo) | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | so hopefully no issues with those | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | neutron: no red flags, grafana is clear; but a yellow-ish one, we may need another oslo.db release including https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362061/ when/if it lands. otherwise users get warnings in neutron logs on legit sorting requests. | 16:02 |
| osh | looks like no red flags from murano. Can you please share a link to take a look at periodic jobs? | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | ihrachys, k, good to know | 16:03 |
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| harlowja_at_home | osh, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Periodic | 16:03 |
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| harlowja_at_home | the oslobot in the oslo channel can also message u the status of those | 16:04 |
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| osh | harlowja_at_home: great, thank you! | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | np | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Bugs needed attention | 16:05 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs needed attention (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:05 | |
| harlowja_at_home | since I'm holding off on any feature releases, any bugs (or reviews fixing bugs) that people want to raise? | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | or doc changes/additions are fine also | 16:05 |
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| pvinci | https://review.openstack.org/358359 | 16:06 |
| pvinci | I just introduced a typo, so another patch set is coming. | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | kk | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | that one seems useful to get in (as long as it doesn't affect current behavior) | 16:06 |
| johnsom | We posted a fix for oslo.config for the sphinx integration, but it's not critical | 16:07 |
| kgiusti | got some doc updates ansmith is working on - what's the policy for fixes now that we're in freeze? | 16:07 |
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| harlowja_at_home | johnsom, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361773/ correct? | 16:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | kgiusti, i think doc fixes are fine | 16:08 |
| johnsom | Nopehttps://review.openstack.org/360745 | 16:08 |
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| johnsom | Ugh, paste: https://review.openstack.org/360745 | 16:08 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'd like to otherwise only really merge things that have bugs associated and are really critical | 16:08 |
| harlowja_at_home | at least for a little bit :-P | 16:08 |
| harlowja_at_home | johnsom, thx | 16:08 |
| johnsom | Yeah, feel free to tag that one for later | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | k | 16:09 |
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| harlowja_at_home | kgiusti, what seem fair? | 16:09 |
| pvinci | harlowja_at_home: it does not affect current behavior. | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | pvinci, cool | 16:09 |
| ozamiatin | harlowja_at_home: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361600/, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358629/ | 16:10 |
| kgiusti | harlowja_at_home: agreed, tho Mommy taught me that life wasn't supposed to be fair :( | 16:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | k, added to my review list | 16:10 |
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| harlowja_at_home | kgiusti, lol, i'll be your surrogate mommy and say that it can be fair | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | sometimes, lol | 16:11 |
| ozamiatin | lol | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | now go clean the dishes kgiusti | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:11 |
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| kgiusti | harlowja_at_home: fine, just don't forget a story at bedtime, ok? | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | sure | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Opening specs | 16:13 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo-specs | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | i started https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361527/ (gotta fix that) | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | we should probably have a spec cleanup day :-P | 16:13 |
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| harlowja_at_home | if anyone wants to help out with that let me know | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | otherwise feel free to add any new specs, or shuffle them around | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | or close out existing ones | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | o/ Sorry I am late. Got caught in the hall. | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | jungleboyj, np | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | cinder all ok? | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | smooth as smooth can be | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, not aware of any issues. | 16:17 |
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| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:17 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic Summit space | 16:18 |
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| harlowja_at_home | so anyone have any big desires to have a different amount of rooms or sessions than last time? | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | i think it seemed to work out well what we had last time | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | which was | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | 'Oslo: 3fb, 5wr' | 16:18 |
| bknudson | the sessions we had at the last summit worked great | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | (3 fish bowl, 5 working rooms) | 16:18 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ya bknudson i'm thinking we can just repeat that same space (amount) again | 16:19 |
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| harlowja_at_home | seemed to be pretty perfect | 16:19 |
| bknudson | works for me. | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | harlowja_at_home: You the boss. ;-) | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 16:20 |
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| harlowja_at_home | i'm also kgiusti surrogate mommy | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | don't ask, ha | 16:20 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic Summit sessions | 16:21 |
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| harlowja_at_home | so i know we have a live from oslo session | 16:21 |
| kgiusti | :D | 16:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | there is also kgiusti i think giving a messaging talk | 16:22 |
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| harlowja_at_home | anyone else got any oslo-related sessions/talks approved? | 16:22 |
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| kgiusti | Yes Mom... | 16:22 |
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| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:22 |
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| johnsom | Sadly the LBaaS talk got denied this time, so no Taskflow evangelism this time | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | :( | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/ | 16:23 |
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| harlowja_at_home | i guess ^ is the full schedule | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | i gotta go look through that, see if anything interesting, ha | 16:24 |
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| kgiusti | harlowja_at_home: I do have a session re: message routing tech | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | u the man | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'm such a proud mommy | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:24 |
| kgiusti | harlowja_at_home: we discussed doing a dev session deep dive on the AMQP 1.0 driver if there's any interest. | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | +1 | 16:24 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic Open discussion | 16:26 |
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| harlowja_at_home | anything else people want to bring up? | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | if people can focus on stabilizing bugs and docs and such, that'd be super | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 16:27 |
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| harlowja_at_home | (as things all start to freeze up) | 16:27 |
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| bknudson | we can still do bug-fix releases of oslo libs? | 16:27 |
| ozamiatin | harlowja_at_home: one more doc review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358669/ | 16:27 |
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| bknudson | there's going to be stable/ branches created? | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, yes, i gotta figure out when the stable/ branches should be created | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | and then get those created :) | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | ozamiatin, cool | 16:28 |
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| harlowja_at_home | so i'll bug the needed folks about stable/newton stuff | 16:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | get that underway | 16:29 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #action harlowja get the stable branches made | 16:30 |
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| bknudson | they don't need to be created until we need a fix. | 16:30 |
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| bknudson | maybe the gate testing will need it. | 16:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, that's fair also | 16:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'll double check with dims or dhellmann to see whats the recommended strategy here | 16:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | oslo.messaging will have a few things merge that are fixes | 16:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | probably a few other bug fixes expected for other projects to | 16:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | (or that's what i would expect) | 16:32 |
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| harlowja_at_home | alrighty then, guess we can close off the meeting for this week, getting pretty quiet in here :-P | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | until next week! | 16:34 |
| kgiusti | next week is a holiday in the us | 16:34 |
| kgiusti | US | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | oh | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | damn | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | who made that labor day | 16:35 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:35 |
| harlowja_at_home | well then, look at that | 16:35 |
| bknudson | unions!!?? | 16:35 |
| harlowja_at_home | those unions... | 16:35 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:35 |
| kgiusti | damn? A day off and all you can say is 'damn'?? | 16:35 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 16:35 |
| kgiusti | I'm gonna emancipate myself. | 16:35 |
| harlowja_at_home | only if mommy says u can | 16:35 |
| kgiusti | ok. | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | (and awkward) | 16:36 |
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| harlowja_at_home | alright, so i guess we can meet the week after next then :) | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | and people can do fun things (for those in US) | 16:36 |
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| harlowja_at_home | kgiusti, that work for u? :-P | 16:37 |
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| kgiusti | yes mom. | 16:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:38 |
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| harlowja_at_home | okie dokie, #openstack-oslo for anything else folks! | 16:39 |
| harlowja_at_home | thanks for showing up (those who did) | 16:39 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #endmeeting | 16:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 16:39:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2016/oslo.2016-08-29-16.00.html | 16:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2016/oslo.2016-08-29-16.00.txt | 16:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2016/oslo.2016-08-29-16.00.log.html | 16:39 |
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| mfedosin | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, mfedosin, docaedo, dshakhray, kairat, sskripnick | 17:29 |
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| docaedo | o/ (for at least a little bit) | 17:32 |
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| mfedosin | hey | 17:33 |
| mfedosin | #startmeeting glare | 17:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 29 17:33:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mfedosin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glare)" | 17:33 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glare' | 17:33 |
| mfedosin | #topic Updates | 17:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: glare)" | 17:33 | |
| docaedo | hello! I'm traveling this week and next week, but figured I'd tune in a little bit today :) | 17:33 |
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| mfedosin | I'm happy to say that I'm back from vacation | 17:34 |
| mfedosin | and begin to work | 17:34 |
| docaedo | hope you had fun on the vacation! | 17:34 |
| mfedosin | the biggest thing was happened last week | 17:35 |
| mfedosin | we created glare repo | 17:35 |
| mfedosin | #link https://github.com/openstack/glare | 17:35 |
| mfedosin | next steps are: create related artifact types for projects | 17:36 |
| mfedosin | we've scheduled a final meeting with Heat team for tomorrow | 17:36 |
| mfedosin | if they agree with our proposal, then we merge all types tomorrow, as well | 17:37 |
| mfedosin | next thing is client | 17:37 |
| mfedosin | I've created a patch into project-config | 17:37 |
| mfedosin | will send it right after this meeting | 17:38 |
| mfedosin | (just have been waiting while all tests pass) | 17:38 |
| docaedo | cool, seems like good progress | 17:38 |
| mfedosin | our plans to have working client till the end of this this week | 17:38 |
| mfedosin | Darja created all required infrastructure | 17:39 |
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| mfedosin | #link https://github.com/dshakhray/python-glareclient | 17:39 |
| mfedosin | integration with openstack client (CLI) will be done this week, too | 17:40 |
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| mfedosin | then, it's integration with Searchlight | 17:41 |
| docaedo | nice | 17:41 |
| mfedosin | I read docs Travis sent me... | 17:41 |
| mfedosin | Frankly speaking I don't have any plans how much time it will take to create a plugin for Searchlight | 17:42 |
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| mfedosin | because this project is quite new to me | 17:42 |
| mfedosin | but it seems that it won't be too hard | 17:42 |
| mfedosin | other plugins look easy | 17:43 |
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| docaedo | yeah for me/app-catalog it's not a huge priority. will be nice to have when it's ready, but not expecting that for transition to glare backend | 17:43 |
| mfedosin | yeah, I have several topics about integration with app-catalog | 17:44 |
| mfedosin | sskripnick told me that they're working on puppets | 17:44 |
| mfedosin | and when it's done we will be able to merge the code | 17:44 |
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| mfedosin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337633/ | 17:45 |
| mfedosin | afaiu it will be something like test.apps.openstack.org | 17:46 |
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| mfedosin | also, we reworked the external locations | 17:47 |
| mfedosin | I think it will be useful for app-catalog | 17:47 |
| mfedosin | because it allows not to store images there | 17:47 |
| mfedosin | but just redirect download requests to external source | 17:48 |
| mfedosin | I mean GET request to /artifact/images/image_id/file will be redirected to (for example) ubuntu.com/ubuntu.iso | 17:49 |
| docaedo | all sounds about right | 17:49 |
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| mfedosin | yep, now it's done | 17:50 |
| mfedosin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360001/ | 17:50 |
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| mfedosin | those are all updates and plans for today | 17:51 |
| mfedosin | this week suppose to be hot :) | 17:51 |
| mfedosin | #topic Open Discussion | 17:52 |
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| mfedosin | good news is that our talk was accepted to Barcelona summit | 17:52 |
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| mfedosin | it means that we have to work even harder to make an interesting presentation there | 17:53 |
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| mfedosin | I think if there is nothing more left, we can finish | 17:55 |
| mfedosin | docaedo: dshakhray_ thanks for joining :) | 17:55 |
| mfedosin | btw... | 17:56 |
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| mfedosin | agenda is now located here: | 17:56 |
| mfedosin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glare-meeting-agenda | 17:56 |
| mfedosin | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 17:57:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glare/2016/glare.2016-08-29-17.33.html | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glare/2016/glare.2016-08-29-17.33.txt | 17:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glare/2016/glare.2016-08-29-17.33.log.html | 17:57 |
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| rluethi | #startmeeting training_labs | 18:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 29 18:07:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rluethi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:07 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_labs' | 18:07 |
| rluethi | anyone here? | 18:07 |
| rluethi | julen? dguitarbite? | 18:07 |
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| rluethi | yeah, thought so. | 18:08 |
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| rluethi | #topic python-port | 18:08 |
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| rluethi | The Python port of osbash has now overtaken its predecessor. | 18:09 |
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| rluethi | It can now do a PXE install on KVM which osbash cannot. | 18:09 |
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| rluethi | So, it's pretty much feature complete (for now). | 18:10 |
| dguitarbite | hello | 18:10 |
| rluethi | hey dguitarbite | 18:10 |
| rluethi | welcome | 18:10 |
| dguitarbite | my apologizes for being late, tried to run back home asap. | 18:10 |
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| rluethi | No problem, I had a nice conversation with myself. | 18:10 |
| dguitarbite | wow | 18:10 |
| dguitarbite | you beat me at that too! | 18:11 |
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| rluethi | at what? conversation with myself? | 18:11 |
| dguitarbite | yeah! | 18:11 |
| rluethi | That's just how good I am. | 18:11 |
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| rluethi | Anyhow, as I was saying, since the Python port does now everything osbash does and some more, I think I may look at Newton soonish. | 18:12 |
| * dguitarbite jel;ly jelly | 18:12 | |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: That is awesome, I read an interesting article] | 18:13 |
| dguitarbite | which I conclude as to having your way of things bottom up rather than a fine new architecture and top down rewrite from scratch is not ideal for our situation. | 18:13 |
| rluethi | Can you elaborate? | 18:14 |
| dguitarbite | So we should just focus a bit on the architecture for migrating to what we want ideally with realistic baby steps. Basically start merging the current code with little refactoring and then work on improving it to get it to the ideal point. | 18:15 |
| dguitarbite | Do you understand me? AFAIK and what I would love to do is to work on the python port you created and get it merged. | 18:15 |
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| rluethi | I have no idea how to put that into practice. | 18:17 |
| dguitarbite | Ofcourse add the libvirt kvm backend to it too. | 18:17 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Give me one week to finalize the parser, it is near to be done and then we start working on the python port. I could ideally push myself harder and work more but its something I do not wish to promise. | 18:18 |
| dguitarbite | And there is always that doomed day job! | 18:18 |
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| rluethi | I already have a KVM backend that works. What does a libvirt KVM backend buy us? | 18:19 |
| dguitarbite | in that case nothing. | 18:19 |
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| rluethi | I will try to push the current code soonish. | 18:19 |
| rluethi | It has improved quite a bit. | 18:20 |
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| dguitarbite | Please push it to github fork :) | 18:20 |
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| dguitarbite | Then we could refactor it a bit more and finally merge it upstream. | 18:21 |
| rluethi | Will do. I wanted to take care of some TODO and FIXME in the code, but I may push the code with them in it. | 18:21 |
| dguitarbite | Yes :) | 18:21 |
| dguitarbite | How long before you push it? | 18:21 |
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| dguitarbite | So what I would be looking at first is how to refactor and rearrange them | 18:21 |
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| dguitarbite | Then once I have some conclusions there I will move on the run the code and make it deploy the cluster. | 18:22 |
| rluethi | Well, you are busy with the parser anyway, so I guess I'll push some time later this week. | 18:22 |
| dguitarbite | I should potentially finish my python POC for running the same code with distro switch logic | 18:22 |
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| rluethi | are we done talking python port? | 18:24 |
| dguitarbite | Yes | 18:24 |
| rluethi | #topic barcelona | 18:24 |
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| rluethi | I'd like to book the hotel soon. | 18:24 |
| rluethi | Rates won't get cheaper if we wait. | 18:25 |
| dguitarbite | Is it possible to wait for next week? | 18:25 |
| rluethi | Sure. | 18:25 |
| rluethi | What's next week? | 18:25 |
| dguitarbite | My manager is back from vacation next week so I would have some clarity on the summit travel. | 18:25 |
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| rluethi | Of course. Next week it is. | 18:25 |
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| dguitarbite | Awesome, then next week in the evening :) | 18:26 |
| rluethi | #topic parser | 18:27 |
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| dguitarbite | :D | 18:27 |
| rluethi | so, what's the plan for the parser this week? | 18:27 |
| dguitarbite | To make it run and deploy OpenStack :D | 18:27 |
| rluethi | I was more thinking about _how_ :) | 18:27 |
| dguitarbite | Just a few simple tricks and it should be ready to be tested with the training-labs system/. | 18:27 |
| dguitarbite | I had a chat with Andreas today. | 18:28 |
| dguitarbite | So only two things remain from my side apart from some minor bugs. | 18:28 |
| dguitarbite | 1. Distro switch logic | 18:28 |
| dguitarbite | 2. Jijna templates to hook it with all the training-labs format and exceptions like for neutron and nova etc. | 18:29 |
| rluethi | I think you are underestimating "some minor bugs". | 18:29 |
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| rluethi | There's plenty of stuff to consider and fix, we talked about some of them before. | 18:29 |
| dguitarbite | I did take a look at it today and the minor bugs are just some parsing issues. Yes! | 18:30 |
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| dguitarbite | I hoope I could address them all sooner than later. | 18:30 |
| rluethi | So what are you going to do about variable? | 18:30 |
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| rluethi | Are we going to drop our system that lets users change network addresses in a configuration file? | 18:30 |
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| dguitarbite | I thought about it and the simple solution is to introduce some changes to install-guides. | 18:31 |
| rluethi | Heh. Simple for us. | 18:31 |
| dguitarbite | We create and maintain a bash script which does all the variable population which the install guide users would wget/download and run while using it manually :D | 18:31 |
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| dguitarbite | I thought about potential blockers/objections, there should be none to very minimal. Its easy to solve :). | 18:32 |
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| dguitarbite | The other way is to have some sort of NLP with ML to improve the system over time, otherwise its almost impossible to make any logical sense out of the same because things change, API\s are different for different project and commands and tasks and so on | 18:32 |
| dguitarbite | So writing a simple ubiquitous logic is near to impossible,. | 18:33 |
| dguitarbite | It is a np incomplete problem. | 18:33 |
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| rluethi | I know it's hard :). | 18:33 |
| dguitarbite | So let's KISS it ;) | 18:33 |
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| rluethi | The question is rather: how useful can a system that is not too hard to implement be? | 18:34 |
| rluethi | Time will tell, I guess. | 18:34 |
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| dguitarbite | I don't need to butter my ego or pride with the parser, I simply want us to focus on less mundane tasks and also in turn help the community while we help ourself, so is the parser simple or complicated, I honestly dont know and care. | 18:35 |
| dguitarbite | But it is definitely simpler compared to other parsers for sure. | 18:35 |
| dguitarbite | Maybe over time the perfectionist in me would make it much more design principle oriented, although it already is quite so. | 18:36 |
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| rluethi | For now, my focus is on seeing that it can work. I haven't seen that yet. | 18:37 |
| rluethi | It's good to see it make progress :). | 18:37 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Come on what you saw was already magnificent is it not? The last 1% is the highest amount of work :D ... but now I am in the zone so I am faster and more efficient for the same to be done quite soon enough., | 18:38 |
| rluethi | If you make updates to the rst2bash repo, please let me know so I can check it out. | 18:38 |
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| dguitarbite | Yes, my focus is to get it working as per your wishes by Wednesday because I want to present it to AJ on Thrus and finalize some other decisions like where would the parser lie etc. | 18:39 |
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| dguitarbite | s/lie/home|repo location ;) | 18:39 |
| rluethi | I was quite happy to finally see something tangible, but I am afraid there is a lot work ahead of us before it does what it is supposed to od. | 18:39 |
| rluethi | hah, that's a good question. | 18:40 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: Yes, but I am not doing anything else till I finish this and I will do it by Wednesday for sure. Further improvements to the design and datastructures would be a high priority on Friday and I want to get this ready by next week with all the decisions required for the same and be ready to start merging the code and run it as a non-compulsory jenkins test very soon. | 18:40 |
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| rluethi | can't wait to see it. | 18:41 |
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| rluethi | anything else we need to discuss? | 18:42 |
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| rluethi | dguitarbite? | 18:43 |
| dguitarbite | nope | 18:43 |
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| dguitarbite | I think I am all done, lets call it a day :) | 18:43 |
| rluethi | then I wish you best of luck with the parser :). | 18:44 |
| rluethi | ttyl | 18:44 |
| dguitarbite | Thank you. I will work hard :) | 18:44 |
| dguitarbite | TTYL. Thanks and bye, | 18:44 |
| rluethi | #endmeeting | 18:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 18:44:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:44 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-08-29-18.07.html | 18:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-08-29-18.07.txt | 18:44 |
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| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 29 20:05:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:05 |
| redrobot | Sorry I'm late y'all | 20:05 |
| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:05 | |
| woodster_ | o/ | 20:06 |
| alee | o/ | 20:06 |
| arunkant | o/ | 20:06 |
| panatl | o/ | 20:06 |
| kfarr | o/ | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | As usual the agenda can be found here: | 20:07 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:07 |
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| redrobot | #topic Swift Keymaster | 20:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Swift Keymaster (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:08 | |
| redrobot | Question around swift keymaster : Does it have barbican/castellan impl in newton release? | 20:08 |
| redrobot | arunkant this is your topic | 20:08 |
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| redrobot | I don't know the answer, maybe kfarr does? | 20:08 |
| kfarr | last time I looked at it, which was several months ago, it did not | 20:08 |
| arunkant | redrobot: yes, trying to find out what kind of barbican integration is there, if any , for swift keymaster | 20:08 |
| notmyname | you mean in swift itself, or does there exist a keymaster for swift that uses barbican? | 20:09 |
| redrobot | notmyname I think the latter | 20:09 |
| arunkant | notmyname, swift using barbican as one swift keymaster impl ? | 20:10 |
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| notmyname | I don't know about the latter (for the former, no there's nothing in-tree yet that has barbican, although it's on the short-list for next things in crypto) | 20:10 |
| redrobot | thanks notmyname ! | 20:10 |
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| notmyname | happy to help | 20:10 |
| kfarr | notmyname, were there any plans to use Castellan instead? | 20:10 |
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| notmyname | kfarr: oh, yeah. in my mind, castellan and barbican are generically the same ;-) | 20:11 |
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| notmyname | "those things over there that do the hard part" ;-) | 20:11 |
| kfarr | notmyname haha gotcha, I am curious to see what it will look like! | 20:11 |
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| notmyname | IIRC the most recent thinking was to use castellan instead of barbican directly. but it's not somehting I've been paying close attention to in the last month or so | 20:12 |
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| kfarr | notmyname, thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it | 20:13 |
| redrobot | arunkant does that answer your question? | 20:14 |
| arunkant | redrobot: yes it does..so it appears that work is post-newton . thanks notmyname | 20:15 |
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| redrobot | ok, cool | 20:15 |
| redrobot | moving on | 20:15 |
| redrobot | #topic Feature Freeze Exception for Multiple Backend | 20:15 |
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| redrobot | This week is the newton-3 milestone release week | 20:16 |
| redrobot | which includes the Feature freeze | 20:16 |
| redrobot | all implementation is in review, so if we can land by tomorrow/wednesday then we won't need a FF | 20:16 |
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| arunkant | redrobot: I have all of the reviews impl for multiple backend. So was hoping to get exception so that all 5 reviews .. I am not sure if all can be done by this week | 20:17 |
| redrobot | if for some reason reviews are slow we can have a FFE, since there's still a couple of weeks left before RC1 | 20:17 |
| redrobot | #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 20:17 |
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| redrobot | arunkant yeah, I really want this stuff to land for newton | 20:17 |
| redrobot | arunkant we'll do a FFE if it doesn't all land by Wednesday. | 20:17 |
| arunkant | redrobot: okay. | 20:18 |
| redrobot | Any other questions/comments about this feature? | 20:18 |
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| redrobot | cool deal, | 20:19 |
| redrobot | cores, please take a look at the agenda page since all pending reviews are listed there | 20:19 |
| redrobot | or see here: | 20:20 |
| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/multiple-secret-backend | 20:20 |
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| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:20 |
| redrobot | #topic python-barbicanclient release | 20:20 |
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| redrobot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/102451.html | 20:21 |
| redrobot | per Doug Hellman, we need to make a release of python-barbicanclient this week | 20:21 |
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| redrobot | I'll be requesting the release by wednesday along with the newton-3 barbican release unless someone things we shouldnt? | 20:22 |
| kfarr | redrobot +1 sounds good to me | 20:22 |
| woodster_ | redrobot: did the midcycle client work bring up any issues with the barbican client? | 20:23 |
| * woodster_ can't recall if there were any big gaps to try to fill | 20:23 | |
| redrobot | woodster_ nothing that's broken, I think... lots of missing features though | 20:23 |
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| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:25 |
| redrobot | #topic Barcelona Design Summit Room Requirements | 20:25 |
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| redrobot | I need to let Thierry know how much space to set aside for Barbican in Barcelona | 20:25 |
| redrobot | So any potential O-cycle PTLs can chime in | 20:26 |
| redrobot | since this needs to be finalized before the next PTL election | 20:26 |
| woodster_ | curious how many barbican cores are attending the summit? | 20:26 |
| * woodster_ very likely not going myself :( | 20:26 | |
| redrobot | woodster_ afaik nobody at Rackspace has gotten the official go-ahead | 20:26 |
| redrobot | For reference, in Austin we had 2x Fishbowl, 6x Working Room sessions, and 1x half-day contributors meetup | 20:27 |
| redrobot | I think we may only need one fishbowl this time around? | 20:27 |
| woodster_ | may not need a big room this go around :) | 20:27 |
| kfarr | I'll be in Barcelona! | 20:27 |
| redrobot | kfarr \o/ | 20:27 |
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| alee | I'll be there too ! | 20:27 |
| woodster_ | nice! | 20:28 |
| redrobot | alee did you see the workshop was accepted? :D | 20:28 |
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| woodster_ | we'll have some barbican reps then | 20:28 |
| alee | I did indeed :) | 20:28 |
| alee | redrobot, so we have some work ahead of use before the summit | 20:28 |
| alee | did any other barbican related talks get accepted? | 20:29 |
| redrobot | alee yup! I'm crossing my fingers that I'll get to go... still haven't heard from the powers that be | 20:29 |
| alee | redrobot, so yeah - the room we had in austin was sufficient | 20:31 |
| redrobot | alee I agree... I was thinking maybe asking for 1fb, 8wr, 1cm this time around | 20:31 |
| alee | sounds ok to me | 20:32 |
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| redrobot | #topic Open discussion | 20:34 |
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| redrobot | That's all we have on the agenda for today. Any other topics we need to talk about before we call it a day? | 20:34 |
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| alee | redrobot, I believe you and fernando were going to add to the install guide | 20:36 |
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| redrobot | alee ah yes... I need to start chipping away at my midcycle TODOs | 20:37 |
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| alee | can we get folks to look at that, so that we can publish it this cycle? | 20:37 |
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| alee | it would be nice to have an accurate install guide we can point folks to in the summit demo | 20:37 |
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| redrobot | alee +1 | 20:39 |
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| redrobot | Anything else? | 20:42 |
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| redrobot | alrighty guys, thanks for coming! | 20:45 |
| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 20:45:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-08-29-20.05.html | 20:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-08-29-20.05.txt | 20:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-08-29-20.05.log.html | 20:45 |
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