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| Alagar | Iam trying to integrate openstack with xen | 03:13 |
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| Alagar | i have installed openstack using devstack script top of xen hypervisor, in this open stack as a virtual machine. | 03:13 |
| Alagar | when i create instance in openstack, the instance should create in xen hypervisor. but its not happening. | 03:13 |
| Alagar | Some one could you please guide me please | 03:13 |
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| lxsli | Alagar: try channel #openstack | 10:20 |
| lxsli | this channel is for meetings | 10:20 |
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| shardy | EmilienM: Hey, ready to start the meeting? | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | is it now? | 14:02 |
| shardy | EmilienM: yup, 14.00 UTC | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | ok sorry | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | I was in CI logs :( | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 22 14:03:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:03 |
| shardy | EmilienM: any google reminders got messed up as they're not UTC aware (mine was an hour from now) | 14:03 |
| shardy | at least in those locations that recently moved an hour for DST | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | my agenda says it's in one hour | 14:03 |
| panda | o/ | 14:03 |
| ccamacho|lunch | hi guys! | 14:03 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:03 |
| jtomasek | o/ | 14:03 |
| gfidente | o/ | 14:03 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:03 |
| shardy | Hi all! | 14:03 |
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| fultonj_ | o/ | 14:03 |
| marios | o/ | 14:03 |
| adarazs_lunch | o/ | 14:03 |
| thrash | o/ | 14:03 |
| akrivoka | hello | 14:03 |
| ccamacho | o/ | 14:03 |
| leanderthal | o/ | 14:03 |
| arxcruz | o/ | 14:03 |
| shardy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 14:03 |
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| adarazs | o/ again | 14:04 |
| mwhahaha | o/ | 14:04 |
| matbu | o/ | 14:04 |
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| shadower | hey | 14:04 |
| shardy | EmilienM: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone/utc | 14:04 |
| jaosorior | o/ | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | #topic agenda | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | * one off agenda items | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | * bugs | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | * CI | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | * Specs | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | * open discussion | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | shardy: yeah sorry for that | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | hi folks! | 14:04 |
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| trown | o/ | 14:04 |
| shardy | EmilienM: np, we had the same issue last week :) | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | if you have off agenda items, please add them to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:05 |
| dprince | hi everyone | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | or propose them here directly | 14:05 |
| weshay | \o | 14:05 |
| d0ugal | Hey all | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | we can start with bugs in the meantime | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | #topic bugs | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | I see 109 bugs targeted for ocata-2 | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/ocata-2 | 14:06 |
| shardy | Yeah I deferred a lot, but we fixed 119 (!) for Ocata-1 | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | do we have outstanding bugs this week? I see that last week you had a blocker with upgrade, fixed now | 14:07 |
| gfidente | /me working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo-common/+bug/1643701 for tripleo-common | 14:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1643701 in tripleo-common "minor update fails: os-collect-config shows: Notice: /Stage[main]/Ceph/Ceph_config[global/fsid]/value: value changed '03d0dd10-b019-11e6-bd00-52540071cf28' to 'fdc8ad96-b016-11e6-88a3-52540071cf28'" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Giulio Fidente (gfidente) | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: the bug title is terrible :-P | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | sounds like "ceph fsid is not idempotent" or something | 14:08 |
| gfidente | yeah I can update that | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | jaosorior: have we reported the selinux problem yet? | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | jaosorior just found out that CI is broken atm, httpd doesn't start | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | and we are investigating why (we think it could be selinux but really not sure at this point) | 14:09 |
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| trown | I thought we had selinux permissive? | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | yes, I 've looked at audit and I don't see any alert | 14:09 |
| weshay | also don't see it here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ci-status | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | weshay: we found it 10 min ago | 14:09 |
| weshay | aye | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM & jaosorior to report httpd issue on launchpad | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else we should prioritize? | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | weshay: is there any bug still open that prevent tripleo CI to be promoted? | 14:10 |
| weshay | EmilienM, I know panda was going to manually kick of a periodic run, others including myself have tests running right now | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | ok | 14:11 |
| trown | there are lots of "uncrossed" items in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ci-status | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | btw, i thought we had a tag for promotion blockers in launchpad | 14:12 |
| trown | not sure if some of those may be fixed though | 14:12 |
| trown | EmilienM: we do | 14:12 |
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| panda | periodic run started 5 minutes ago | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | trown: I updated 2 of them | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | that are fixed | 14:13 |
| trown | EmilienM: hmm... I dont see it actually... | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | nova and neutron | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | trown: yes | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to create launchpad tag for promotion blockers | 14:14 |
| trown | EmilienM: you can cross it off :) I just did via https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+manage-official-tags | 14:14 |
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| EmilienM | #undo | 14:14 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x7fbb9406ce90> | 14:14 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, I'm not sure, but maybe this related to httpd issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1640879 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640879 in tripleo "CI: apache fails to start on overcloud controller" [High,Triaged] | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | trown: thx | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: I don't know, we'll have to compare logs to see if it's the same problem | 14:15 |
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| EmilienM | "httpd doesn't start" is very hasardous | 14:15 |
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| EmilienM | sshnaidm: let's figure out after our meeting | 14:16 |
| sshnaidm | ok | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | anything else for bugs? | 14:16 |
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| EmilienM | #ŧopic one off agenda items | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | I see a question about spec freeze plan | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | so iirc we freezed blueprints on Nov 14th | 14:17 |
| shardy | Yeah, although in the last meetings we discussed some flexibility for specs already posted that haven't got many reviews | 14:18 |
| shardy | which is nearly all of them | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | we should probably freeze specs by end of ocata-2 | 14:18 |
| shardy | main point is nothing *proposed* now should be considered IMO | 14:18 |
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| EmilienM | so we still have 3 weeks | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | shardy: +1 | 14:18 |
| shardy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/ocata-2 | 14:18 |
| trown | +1 | 14:18 |
| shardy | we've got 3 weeks until ocata-2, and 26 blueprints | 14:18 |
| shardy | I'll be amazed if even half of them land | 14:19 |
| shardy | so we probably need to start deferring everything not started to ocata-3, and flagging that they're at risk | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | yesterday, I went through all of them and updated status of it's started or not | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | a lot are not started or very barely | 14:19 |
| fultonj | so some will be pushed to oc3 and some will need to be reproposed for pike? | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | fultonj: most probably | 14:20 |
| shardy | fultonj: well it's too soon to say, but the point is many probably will slip into Pike at this rate | 14:20 |
| weshay | think we're back to the neutron-db-manage error now in the undercloud :( | 14:20 |
| shardy | given the short cycle and lack of progress | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | fultonj: it's also a sign that blueprints are not well broken down | 14:21 |
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| shardy | fultonj: the other thing to consider is we're not going to have review bandwidth for a late cycle mountain of features | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | I see some blueprints as huge features, and ocata is shorter than other cycles | 14:21 |
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| fultonj | makes sense | 14:21 |
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| EmilienM | people who create blueprints should probably break down a little bit more so we can achieve a blueprint within one cycle | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | shardy: right, that's why we need to defer now and flag the ones at risk | 14:22 |
| ccamacho | EmilienM +1 | 14:22 |
| fultonj | EmilienM: so instead of doing x,y,z in one blueprint start with just x? | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | shardy: because otherwise, they'll request FFE and we'll have same thing as last time | 14:22 |
| akrivoka | EmilienM: I was waiting for some reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397296/ before creating individual bps for tasks | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | fultonj: yes and you can configure blueprint dependencies | 14:23 |
| ccamacho | even so, for people trying to get features to implement, the current blueprints are not quite descriptive, right? | 14:23 |
| akrivoka | EmilienM: does that make sense or should I just go and create all bps right away? | 14:23 |
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| shardy | EmilienM: should we communicate (loudly) that we'll bserve the same feature freeze as all other projects this time? | 14:23 |
| shardy | e.g at ocata-3 | 14:23 |
| shardy | https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | akrivoka: I think so, and we need to target the blueprints that you think we can achieve in ocata | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | shardy: yes | 14:24 |
| beagles | shardy: +1 on that. | 14:24 |
| shardy | The other option would be to choose some slightly later date, but I think release quality suffered last time due to all the FFEs | 14:24 |
| akrivoka | EmilienM: ok, I'll go ahead and create blueprints for individual work items | 14:24 |
| ccamacho | A good example IMHO was the initial blueprint for composable services, decomposed by service, so lot of people helped to landed on time | 14:25 |
| shardy | so it'd be great to have a focus on bugfixing during the RC window instead this time | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | ++ | 14:25 |
| owalsh | EmilienM: I've a similar situation to akrivoka, assume I should do the same and create blueprints asap? | 14:25 |
| beagles | short cycle.. timing, everything... FFEs are going to be harder to deal with. Not to mention our bug list | 14:25 |
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| trown | ya, imo it is not really meant to be a feature-full release, so FFE is too much | 14:26 |
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| EmilienM | beagles: given the amount of work here, we need to avoid any rush to push last features like we did in newton | 14:26 |
| * beagles would prefer to go into a P with a longer TODO list than have everything really wobbly at the end of O | 14:26 | |
| EmilienM | and rather focus on what we can actually deliver in ocata, make it good and more stable than previous releases | 14:27 |
| beagles | EmilienM: absolutely. | 14:27 |
| ccamacho | +1 | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | I'll communicate on that | 14:27 |
| shardy | Ok sounds like we're all agreed, we just need to ensure it's clearly communicated | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to communicate on ocata release schedule | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | any other off items? | 14:28 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:28 |
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| fultonj | any thoughts on the containerization blueprint? | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | slagle, shardy: thanks a ton for doing the releases when I was on PTO :-) | 14:29 |
| fultonj | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223182/ | 14:29 |
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| EmilienM | fultonj: it's a multi-cycles blueprint | 14:29 |
| shardy | EmilienM: np! | 14:29 |
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| shardy | fultonj: at summit we discussed it getting completed during Ocata and Pike | 14:30 |
| shardy | time will tell how far along the road we get during Ocata | 14:30 |
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| EmilienM | so tonyb sent an email about Liberty EOL : [openstack-dev] [all][stable][ptls] Tagging liberty as EOL | 14:30 |
| fultonj | ack | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | shardy and I discussed about it and agreed that we should propose a last Liberty release in all TripleO projects, tag it EOL and then remove branches and Ci jobs for liberty, like other projects. | 14:31 |
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| EmilienM | any thoughts ? ^ | 14:31 |
| shardy | +1 | 14:32 |
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| shardy | that also means we may be able to request the stable: follow-policy tag again | 14:32 |
| shardy | follows-policy I mean | 14:32 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: yeah! :) | 14:32 |
| EmilienM | shardy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314485/ - I'll ask you to restore it when it's done | 14:32 |
| trown | +1 | 14:33 |
| shardy | EmilienM: ack, sure will do | 14:33 |
| trown | it does mean we can no longer test liberty->mitaka upgrades, but that is consistent with other projects upgrade testing | 14:33 |
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| shardy | trown: we're not really testing them in CI now, are we? | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | I didn't know we tested it | 14:33 |
| shardy | but yeah, we can test the remaining supported branches | 14:33 |
| matbu | shardy: we have periodic jobs that are testing it on centos.ci | 14:34 |
| shardy | when upgrade CI is landed | 14:34 |
| shardy | matbu: Ah, Ok, but not upstream yet | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to proceed to last Liberty release and sync with tonyb about tripleo liberty EOL | 14:34 |
| matbu | shardy: nop | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | anything else about release management? | 14:34 |
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| EmilienM | #topic CI | 14:35 |
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| EmilienM | slagle has made some progress to have a 3-nodes job, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397441/ | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | if people want to review it and dependencies, it would be cool | 14:36 |
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| EmilienM | sshnaidm: do you mind to give an update about oooq integration? | 14:36 |
| shardy | I was chatting with matbu and wondering if using multinode (ideally based on the 3 nodes job) would be a good idea for upgrades | 14:36 |
| shardy | as the walltime is much less for the initial deployment | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | shardy: why 3nodes and not 2nodes? | 14:37 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, it was broken yesterday and brought alive today | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: what do you expect from this patch? Do you want us to review and merge it sometimes? | 14:37 |
| shardy | EmilienM: because the two node job has an all-in-one openstack | 14:37 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, I hope today the patch will pass again and we can merge it if no objection | 14:37 |
| matbu | yep, EmilienM i re-worked last week on the upgrade review, the whole upgrade jobs works but hit timeout w/ ovb | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: ok | 14:37 |
| slagle | i think we could use multinode jobs for upgrade testing | 14:37 |
| shardy | EmilienM: that would be OK as a starting point tho I guess | 14:38 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, sure, for now only you and slagle reviewed it | 14:38 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: ok, so you want to split in 2 overcloud nodes to avoid timeout? | 14:38 |
| shardy | EmilienM: it just makes it harder to separate the compute upgrade logic | 14:38 |
| slagle | just need to be aware of what is actually being tested | 14:38 |
| slagle | for instance, 2node jobs does not use pacemaker | 14:38 |
| slagle | which is a huge part of the upgrade | 14:38 |
| weshay | ya | 14:38 |
| shardy | EmilienM: No, I just want a faster way to do the initial deployment so we actually have time to test the upgrade | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | shardy: ok, makes sense | 14:38 |
| shardy | which is the blocker for the OVB upgrades patch atm (AFAIK) | 14:38 |
| slagle | the 3nodes job i did though does use pacemaker, although it is a cluster of 1 | 14:38 |
| matbu | slagle: the upgrade review used pacemaker even with 2 nodes | 14:38 |
| slagle | matbu: using multinode jobs? | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | slagle: it's a good start I guess | 14:39 |
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| matbu | slagle: nop i mean ovb + pacemaker with 2 nodes | 14:39 |
| shardy | slagle: nice, I think that would still be a good target for upgrade testing, as we'd at least run all the pacemaker upgrade stuff | 14:39 |
| slagle | the 3 nodes job still runs in under an hours, so we should have time to test an upgrade | 14:40 |
| slagle | although it's 3 or 4 stack-updates? | 14:40 |
| slagle | we might have time :) | 14:40 |
| matbu | yep | 14:40 |
| shardy | slagle: right now it's 3, but my PoC reduces it potentially to 2 | 14:40 |
| matbu | + yum update on non controller nodes | 14:40 |
| shardy | or even 1 if we automate the compute upgrade | 14:40 |
| matbu | shardy: hehe +1 | 14:40 |
| slagle | shardy: ok great | 14:40 |
| slagle | the 3nodes job can be made faster as well, b/c right now i bootstrap the oc nodes sequentially | 14:41 |
| matbu | slagle: well for M to N it's ideally 4 or 5 | 14:41 |
| slagle | and that could be done in parallel | 14:41 |
| shardy | matbu: init, update, converge - the other steps are the per-role scripts, no? | 14:42 |
| matbu | shardy: ceilometer migration as a first step | 14:42 |
| marios | shardy: yeah ignoring migrations | 14:43 |
| slagle | well, we can't test M..N with multinode | 14:43 |
| slagle | multinode jobs don't run on mitaka | 14:43 |
| matbu | shardy: and aodh migration (post converge) | 14:43 |
| shardy | matbu: Ok, we'll have to work through the details, I'm trying to reduce the number of stack updates if possible | 14:43 |
| slagle | we can only test Newton..master | 14:43 |
| shardy | yeah, I'd say lets just start with newton to master | 14:43 |
| matbu | slagle: why not on mitaka ? | 14:44 |
| slagle | multinode jobs don't run on mitaka | 14:44 |
| shardy | matbu: because the upgrade for Newton->master is going to be totally different | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | right, only newton and master now | 14:44 |
| shardy | we could look at extending coverage to stable branches later I guess | 14:44 |
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| * shardy is mostly focussed on ensuringt the upgrades rewrite works for ocata | 14:45 | |
| matbu | shardy: yes, but i'm missing the details here why mitaka diff from newton on multinodes | 14:45 |
| shardy | matbu: because multinode uses composable roles/services I think | 14:45 |
| matbu | shardy: marios yes i think for us the bug number #1 in upgrade is "how to test it" | 14:46 |
| matbu | shardy: ack ok make sense thx | 14:46 |
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| slagle | yes, and also the deployed-server environment did not merge until newton | 14:46 |
| marios | matbu: ack, as shardy points out we will need 2 jobs (you also mentioned this before ) as the n->o upgrade is going to be completely different | 14:46 |
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| shardy | FWIW a control-plane upgrade from Newton->master locally only takes 9 minutes :) | 14:47 |
| EmilienM | do you prioritize n..o or m..n? | 14:47 |
| shardy | marios: you asked how long yesterday ^^ | 14:47 |
| matbu | shardy: woot :) | 14:47 |
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| shardy | there's a few missing pieces so that will go up a bit | 14:47 |
| marios | shardy: wow :) | 14:48 |
| matbu | do we want periodic jobs , M to N ? | 14:48 |
| marios | shardy: note a significant portion of that time is /was bringing the cluster down/up so yeah it will go up | 14:48 |
| EmilienM | also, in the future we could have remove the classic jobs for upgrades and clone the scenarios to test upgrades too (maybe) | 14:49 |
| EmilienM | but I'm maybe too far in the future :-) | 14:49 |
| matbu | btw , i don't have all the details, but if sshnaidm is making oooq usable in tripleo-ci, we can use RDO upgrade ansible roles | 14:49 |
| shardy | marios: yeah, just a starting point, but not to bad for the nonha case | 14:49 |
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| marios | shardy: for sure ! :) | 14:49 |
| matbu | (for periodics i mean) | 14:49 |
| sshnaidm | matbu, great idea | 14:50 |
| EmilienM | matbu: yes, I was interested by this too, as we know it works already downstream | 14:50 |
| EmilienM | ok time is running out | 14:50 |
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| matbu | EmilienM: yes, i'm a bit worring of the gating stuff | 14:50 |
| EmilienM | I don't see much #action | 14:50 |
| matbu | well just to summurize the discussion ^ | 14:51 |
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| EmilienM | matbu: can you take some actions maybe so we track the output of this discussion | 14:51 |
| matbu | EmilienM: yes | 14:51 |
| matbu | i see 2 actions: making periodics upgrade jobs with oooq in tripleo-ci | 14:52 |
| matbu | and making upgrade jobs for N to O | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | matbu: can you use #action please? :-) | 14:52 |
| matbu | EmilienM: hehe lets try :) | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else about CI today? | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | after the meeting, i'll keep digging why it's broken now | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | but any help is warmly welcome | 14:53 |
| matbu | #action matbu lets use oooq in tripleo-ci for periodics M to N jobs | 14:53 |
| matbu | #action matbu build upgrade jobs for N to O | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | #action team to review slagle's work on 3nodes job https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397441/ (and dependencies) | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | #topic Specs | 14:54 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | we still have a bunch of specs without many reviews | 14:55 |
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| EmilienM | if the team could take some time to review our specs | 14:55 |
| akrivoka | I'd like to request reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397296 thanks! | 14:55 |
| marios | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392116/ is pretty close thanks | 14:55 |
| EmilienM | I also would like to get more core reviews on our squad policy, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385201/ | 14:55 |
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| marios | shardy: EmilienM i'll published an edit there for shardy comment in a sec please re-add your +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392116/ | 14:56 |
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| EmilienM | marios: no way! | 14:56 |
| marios | EmilienM: :( | 14:56 |
| marios | pretty please? | 14:56 |
| EmilienM | done :P | 14:56 |
| shardy | marios: ack, will do, thanks! | 14:56 |
| EmilienM | #action team to reviews specs targetted for ocata | 14:56 |
| EmilienM | shardy: so do we freeze specs by end of ocata-2? | 14:57 |
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| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 14:58 |
| shardy | EmilienM: +1 | 14:58 |
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| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to communicate on ocata specs freeze (end of o-2) | 14:58 |
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| EmilienM | sorry for short open discussion, if you have anything to ask or say, please use #tripleo channel! | 14:58 |
| leanderthal | heh | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | thanks all for your time | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| shardy | thanks EmilienM and all! | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 22 14:59:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-22-14.03.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-22-14.03.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-22-14.03.log.html | 14:59 |
| akrivoka | thanks! | 14:59 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 22 17:00:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:01 |
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| ativelkov | o/ | 17:03 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | hi there ) | 17:05 |
| StanLagun | hi | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Core Reviewers update | 17:08 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | so I'm adding Felipe Monteiro (not sure if I know his irc handle) and removing Filip Blaha & Ekaterina Chernova as per my emails =) | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | if you guys have any 2d thoughts — now's the time to voice them ) | 17:09 |
| ativelkov | +1 for for addition and exclusion | 17:10 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | aaaaaand | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | done | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | going to send the letters in a few minutes ) | 17:12 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I still haven't implemented the alternating meeting time T_T | 17:13 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb implement alternating meetings | 17:13 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | should be a pretty straightforward commit | 17:13 |
| kzaitsev_mb | just need to find some time to send it for review | 17:13 |
| kzaitsev_mb | k. | 17:13 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:13 | |
| kzaitsev_mb | ativelkov: StanLagun: do you guys have any important announcements =) | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | or maybe paches that need attention? | 17:14 |
| StanLagun | nothing important from my side | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | freerunner: have you had a chance to look at murano-agent gate failures? Seems like we're still getting those | 17:14 |
| ativelkov | not much from my side, just a notice that we have to revert a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385519/ by zhurong | 17:15 |
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| ativelkov | And to do the thing properly we have to remove the depencency | 17:15 |
| ativelkov | of murano engine on keystone_authtoken cfg section | 17:16 |
| ativelkov | I've filed a bug on this particular issue | 17:16 |
| ativelkov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1643583 | 17:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1643583 in Murano "Murano Engine uses keystone_authtoken configuration section" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Alexander Tivelkov (ativelkov) | 17:16 |
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| ativelkov | we may consider marking it as a low hanging fruit since it is quite a straitforward thing to do | 17:17 |
| ativelkov | (so probably I need to unassign it from myself) | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ativelkov: yep, please unassign, mark the thing as lhf and explain how to fix it (if there is any explanation needed) | 17:18 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ativelkov: StanLagun: do you guys thing we need to make a release? | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I mean | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we've switched to a different release model and we're at O-1 time. | 17:19 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | so we might want to request a release here | 17:19 |
| kzaitsev_mb | would probably be 3.1.0 for murano/murano-dashboard | 17:19 |
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| ativelkov | We probably need to do a realease of yaql, but that's a different story | 17:20 |
| ativelkov | since it is not under the big tent | 17:20 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ativelkov: yeah. well big tent or not — I would advertise to use releases repo for releasing things | 17:21 |
| ativelkov | kzaitsev_mb: can we use releases for non big-tenty things? | 17:21 |
| kzaitsev_mb | theirs infra is really really neat and makes everything pretty straightforward | 17:21 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ativelkov: let's ask release team on next release team meeting? =) | 17:22 |
| kzaitsev_mb | they're on fridays ) | 17:22 |
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| ativelkov | Thanks, I'll try | 17:22 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ativelkov: well, after all say, reno is not big tent | 17:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | but it's uses releases repo, I believe | 17:23 |
| ativelkov | Moreover, I'd suggest to move yaql to big tent at some point: it is used by 3 different openstack projects, is mature enough etc, so I think it could be benefitial for all | 17:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ativelkov: https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/_independent/reno.yaml | 17:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | like this | 17:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | they have this independent folder | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ativelkov: 4 | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | =) | 17:24 |
| ativelkov | oh, forgot about mistral ) | 17:24 |
| ativelkov | then yes, 4 ) | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://releases.openstack.org/independent.html | 17:24 |
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| ativelkov | thanks | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | the upside would be that yaql would be available through ^^^ | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sounds like an overall good idea to me =) | 17:26 |
| ativelkov | StanLagun: any opinion on this? | 17:26 |
| StanLagun | I have a mixed feeling about it | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | StanLagun: why so? =) | 17:28 |
| StanLagun | yaql is not related to OpenStack even though it is used in OpenStack. Making yaql a big tent OpenStack project doesn't seem to be logical | 17:28 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | StanLagun: nobody is talking about making yaql big tent | 17:29 |
| * ativelkov does | 17:29 | |
| kzaitsev_mb | oh | 17:29 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | nah, I'm not sure that it is even possible to big tent yaql %) | 17:30 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I was talking about re-using infra | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | since we're using openstack infra for yaql anyway | 17:31 |
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| ativelkov | OK, let's do the release management | 17:34 |
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| ativelkov | we may come back to big tent idea in the next cycle :) | 17:34 |
| StanLagun | I know very little about release procedure so I have no objections as long as it just a technical decision and doesn't affect project positioning and who control it | 17:34 |
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| ativelkov | OK, so let's do it for the next yaql release | 17:39 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #agreed to use openstack/releases for next yaql release | 17:40 |
| kzaitsev_mb | cool | 17:40 |
| kzaitsev_mb | if there is nothing more to discuss — I'm going to end the meeting in 5-10 mins ) | 17:41 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, thanks for joining =) | 17:47 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 22 17:47:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-11-22-17.00.html | 17:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-11-22-17.00.txt | 17:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-11-22-17.00.log.html | 17:47 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 22 19:00:59 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:01 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-11-22 | 19:02 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: Hi... I expect it will be a quick meeting today .. Let's wait for a few minutes | 19:02 |
| pvaneck | catherineD: sure | 19:03 |
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| sslypushenko_ | o/ | 19:05 |
| sslypushenko_ | Hi, folks! | 19:05 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: Hi ... | 19:06 |
| catherineD | thx for joining .. we can use this meeting to discuss your patch ... | 19:06 |
| catherineD | let go thru the agenda real quick ... https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-11-22 | 19:07 |
| sslypushenko_ | yeap sure) | 19:07 |
| catherineD | #topic Project Team Gathering (PTG) | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Project Team Gathering (PTG) (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:07 | |
| catherineD | RefStack team will not participate at the PTG ... | 19:08 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: will you join PTC? | 19:08 |
| catherineD | PTG | 19:08 |
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| sslypushenko_ | No | 19:08 |
| catherineD | yea we do not either ... | 19:09 |
| catherineD | #topic Pending review | 19:09 |
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| catherineD | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396700/ ( Authenticate user for with public key and signature ) | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko_ | I should put it in WIP again | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko_ | Looks like it needs some work work | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko_ | but I have a good news) | 19:10 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: First of all .. I want to think you for this patch ,... we have been talking about this but never implement ... thx so much for working on it | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko_ | we can depricate publick key signature during uplaod | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko_ | *upload | 19:10 |
| catherineD | that would make thing eaiser .. | 19:11 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: it is my pleasure) | 19:11 |
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| sslypushenko_ | also I will add some docs how to test it | 19:11 |
| sslypushenko_ | because it is not a piece of cake with postman) | 19:12 |
| catherineD | I did some more test http://paste.openstack.org/show/590121/ but I guess without the signature with upload we may not need to work on this problem any more .. | 19:12 |
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| sslypushenko_ | it is true | 19:12 |
| luzC | o/ sorry to be late | 19:12 |
| catherineD | so in the latest test I use curl and the fake pub key .. that way all of us can use the same key to test | 19:13 |
| catherineD | luzC: no problem at all ... thx for joining ... agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-11-22 | 19:13 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: I'll provide some script for signature generation | 19:13 |
| sslypushenko_ | then you can use postman easily | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | great .. but with no signature for upload ... we do not need it anymore right? | 19:14 |
| pvaneck | yea, i think a utility/script for that would be useful | 19:14 |
| catherineD | actually curl will be good because other people can easily duplicate the tests .. | 19:15 |
| sslypushenko_ | it is a bit different things | 19:15 |
| sslypushenko_ | signature during upload pubkey become optional | 19:16 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: do we worry about upload data tempering ? that is the reason why we add signature right? | 19:16 |
| sslypushenko_ | but each request should be signed with signature in order to provide user auth | 19:16 |
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| sslypushenko_ | pubkey signature it is a way how to prevent duplication of pubkeys | 19:17 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: I think that is fine .. because key are lot upload frequently | 19:18 |
| sslypushenko_ | it was a way... | 19:18 |
| sslypushenko_ | but now I found a way how to make it optional | 19:18 |
| catherineD | by now RefStack users are accustomed to upload key with signature | 19:18 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: oh that is great | 19:19 |
| catherineD | I will wait for your update for any further test then ... | 19:19 |
| catherineD | any thing else on this topic? | 19:20 |
| sslypushenko_ | yeap, I'll ping you as far as it become ready | 19:20 |
| sslypushenko_ | I have nothing to add | 19:20 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: again thank you so much for working on this very needed feature .. | 19:21 |
| catherineD | moving on .. | 19:21 |
| catherineD | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398633/ ( Rename key name from 'reason' to 'registration_decline_reason' ) | 19:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398633/ ( Rename key name from 'reason' to 'registration_decline_reason' ) (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:21 | |
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| catherineD | luzC: sslypushenko_: could you please review this patch ... | 19:21 |
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| catherineD | basically the change there is to just use a more descripted name for a free-from key/value info ... no database or business logic change at all ... | 19:22 |
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| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: LGTM | 19:23 |
| catherineD | I realize that further work are needed .. but I think this is good for now ... | 19:23 |
| sslypushenko_ | merged | 19:23 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: thx ... | 19:23 |
| luzC | I already review it, code looks good, | 19:23 |
| catherineD | luzC: thx .. | 19:23 |
| catherineD | As you know we have been working on vendor/product feature for about 1 and a half cycle now ... we have all the code merged to the master branch before the summit but we still have not update the code on the RefStack site | 19:24 |
| catherineD | since we have time now ... that is why we review all the the details .. .this is one of the things that we want to update before the merge ... | 19:25 |
| catherineD | we target to update the website during the first week of December .. | 19:26 |
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| catherineD | Hopefully we can make it so we will wrap up 2016 with Vendor/Product feature published on the RefStack website | 19:26 |
| catherineD | that is our target | 19:27 |
| catherineD | moving on .. | 19:27 |
| catherineD | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400432/ ( Show vendor products on vendor page ) | 19:27 |
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| pvaneck | looks like andrey already reviewed. so will take a look | 19:28 |
| catherineD | every one please review | 19:28 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: ok that is good ... | 19:28 |
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| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: ok | 19:29 |
| catherineD | moving on .. | 19:29 |
| catherineD | #topic Tempest config script | 19:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest config script (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:29 | |
| catherineD | so this effort was leading by dmellado: and gema: | 19:30 |
| luzC | is this related to the hangout from last week? | 19:31 |
| catherineD | #link Tempest config working document ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UCtpUfZBDBecRKzBwbko8PWmXz3T2UQ5QV4dL1G-5lE/edit ) | 19:31 |
| catherineD | luzC: yes .. | 19:31 |
| catherineD | just want to post the link here | 19:32 |
| catherineD | luzC: so we decided that the script and code will be reside in a separated github repository to begin with | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: it is awesome! | 19:33 |
| catherineD | and later move to refstack-client if needed | 19:33 |
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| luzC | cool | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko_ | maybe we can just put in refstack-client / tools | 19:33 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: yea dmellado: had the script already ... once he publishes the location we call can test | 19:34 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: yup | 19:34 |
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| catherineD | I will inivte them to our meeting next week if possible | 19:34 |
| catherineD | #topic Open discussion | 19:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:35 | |
| catherineD | any topic we want to to discuss ? | 19:35 |
| luzC | I have a WIP patch | 19:36 |
| luzC | related for the renaming of Defcore | 19:36 |
| catherineD | luzC: yea the Defcore name change .. | 19:36 |
| catherineD | :-) | 19:36 |
| luzC | yes, but so, should "Defcore guideline" be changed to "Interop Guideline" | 19:37 |
| luzC | ? | 19:37 |
| catherineD | so my suggestion is wait until DefCore complete their change and then we will update our site | 19:37 |
| catherineD | luzC: yea that is something that we should discuss ... | 19:38 |
| luzC | ok, sounds good to me :) but the process is first changing the code via a patch merge it into master and last step moving latest branch into the site? | 19:39 |
| catherineD | to me "Interop Guideline" has a bigger scope ... where DefCore guideline is very precise that this is the guideline for Defcore purpose | 19:39 |
| sslypushenko_ | Interop guideline sounds good | 19:40 |
| catherineD | so customized guideline that Andrey were targeting be would be one type of guildeline and defcore guildeline is an other type ... but all of them are for interop purpise | 19:40 |
| catherineD | purposes ... | 19:40 |
| sslypushenko_ | I gives a chance for non-Defcore guidelines ) | 19:41 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: absolutely .. | 19:41 |
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| catherineD | so I kind of hesitate to call DefCore Guideline --> Interop Guideline ... as I said before Interop Guideline would be something wth a bigger scope | 19:42 |
| luzC | mmm I see... so ultimately is defcore group defining the "public name" for the guideline, right? I mean keep calling it defcore guideline vs something else? | 19:42 |
| catherineD | so today you pass the DefCore guideline you can be verified for OpenStack Logo ... but it does not mean that those cloud are interop (at least not yet). | 19:43 |
| catherineD | we still far away from setting a guideline that guarantee interop .. that is the target but we (DefCore) are not there yet ... | 19:44 |
| luzC | ok, I'll hold on the changes until the other changes land on defcore | 19:45 |
| catherineD | yea we should give some thought on this ...once we allow Andrey's customized guidelines in ... we need someway to differentiate ... the name DefCore Guideline was perfect and prescise ... but they change their name | 19:46 |
| catherineD | luzC: yup ...thx | 19:46 |
| catherineD | anything else? | 19:46 |
| catherineD | luzC: thx for bringing up the guideline topic | 19:47 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko_: this is US Thanksgiving Holidays week ... for IBM at my location we have Thurs and Friday off ... | 19:48 |
| catherineD | luzC: How about you? | 19:48 |
| catherineD | do you have Friday off as well? | 19:48 |
| luzC | yes, me too | 19:49 |
| luzC | both days off :) | 19:49 |
| catherineD | nice | 19:49 |
| catherineD | I guess only sslypushenko_: need to still working :-) | 19:50 |
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| catherineD | if there is nothing else ... let's end the meeting ... Thank you all! Bye | 19:51 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 19:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 22 19:51:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-11-22-19.00.html | 19:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-11-22-19.00.txt | 19:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-11-22-19.00.log.html | 19:51 |
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