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| fultonj | hello | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 3 14:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | * review past actions items | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * one off agenda items | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * bugs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * CI | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Specs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * open discussion | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | who is around today? | 14:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 14:00 |
| mwhahaha | o/ | 14:00 |
| fultonj | o/ | 14:00 |
| marios | hello | 14:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:00 |
| jpich | o/ | 14:00 |
| shadower | hey | 14:00 |
| weshay | o/ | 14:00 |
| gfidente | hello :) | 14:01 |
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| EmilienM | ok first: | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE | 14:01 |
| ccamacho|lunch | hey guys! | 14:01 |
| dprince | hi | 14:01 |
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| ccamacho | o/ | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | I hope you had some rest during the break because we have a lot of things coming up :-D | 14:01 |
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| EmilienM | #topic review past actions items | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | HA & puppet experts to look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408726/ | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | looks like the patch is not in good shape (CI is red and need rebasing) | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | we'll postpone the review | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to organize TripleO Bug Squash Day, that will happen after the break | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | I haven't done it yet, and I'll this week | 14:03 |
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| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to organize TripleO Bug Squash Day, that will happen after the break (postponed) | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | matbu, slagle to figure undercloud major upgrade job status | 14:03 |
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| EmilienM | matbu, slagle: any update on this action? ^ | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM sends an email to start preparing PTG : DONE | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | matbu & slagle seem away now, I'll check later | 14:05 |
| shardy | o/ sorry I'm late | 14:05 |
| shardy | happy new year all :) | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | #topic milienM sends an email to start preparing PTG | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | damn | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | #undo | 14:05 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic milienM sends an email to start preparing PTG | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | that happens when you don't use a keyboard during 10 days | 14:05 |
| adarazs | o/ | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | #topic one off agenda items | 14:06 |
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| EmilienM | I have one topic | 14:06 |
| shardy | EmilienM: I'm looking into the upgrade job problems with matbu - I think there is a problem with the bootstrap script but not yet debugged it | 14:06 |
| shardy | we may need some help from slagle when he's around | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | OpenStack Marketing team is asking PTLs to propose one question per project for the User Survey | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | I started https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-user-survey-2017 | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | shardy: ack, thx | 14:07 |
| jtomasek | o/ | 14:07 |
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| EmilienM | if you would like to ask one question to our users, which one would it be? | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | feel free to give feedback on this etherpad | 14:07 |
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| EmilienM | i'll also send it to the mailing-list after the meeting. | 14:07 |
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| EmilienM | #topic bugs | 14:08 |
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| EmilienM | we have a bunch of untriaged bugs (because of the break) - I'll look today, any help is welcome | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/ocata-3 | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | we still have 1 Confirmed, 89 Triaged, 50 In Progress | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | which is 140 bugs open for Ocata | 14:09 |
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| EmilienM | if you're assigned to a bug, please make sure you've updated it with latest status | 14:10 |
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| EmilienM | also, some bugs seem to be RFE. We might want to move them to Pike. | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | again, any help here is appreciated :-) | 14:10 |
| slagle | shardy: in that job you sent me, you can look in /var/log/deployed-server-os-collect-config.txt.gz for the bootstrap occ log | 14:10 |
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| shardy | slagle: ack, thanks will do | 14:11 |
| slagle | shardy: it's getting that "null" from heat, so must be something wrong in the template | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | slagle: any update on the conversation we had about undercloud major upgrade? | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | slagle: I remember we weren't sure if we perform actual major upgrades | 14:11 |
| slagle | EmilienM: could you refresh my memory on what that conversation was about? :) | 14:11 |
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| EmilienM | matbu was saying that we weren't upgrading newton to ocata | 14:11 |
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| slagle | oh, i think there was a patch to fix that | 14:11 |
| shardy | slagle: ack, thanks for the pointer, that may help isolate the problem - still trying to reproduce locally | 14:12 |
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| slagle | EmilienM: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413106/ | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | slagle: problem solved! | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | any outstanding bug to discuss this week folks? | 14:13 |
| marios | EmilienM: i am hitting this one on my downstream setup after today https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1649341 - shardy looks like that is still in progres/things landed | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649341 in tripleo "Undercloud upgrade fails with "Cell mappings are not created, but required for Ocata"" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Alex Schultz (alex-schultz) | 14:13 |
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| EmilienM | marios: afik mwhahaha is working on this one | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | and afik we're close to have it fixed (if not done already) | 14:14 |
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| shardy | EmilienM, marios: yeah I pulled the undercloud patches locally and it got me past the issues | 14:14 |
| marios | EmilienM: ok i was happy to see it already reported upstream (the downstream trails by at least a week usually plus break) | 14:14 |
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| EmilienM | anything else about bugs? | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:15 |
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| marios | shardy: thanks may ask you about that later | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | 2 infos: | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | Jan 16-20 is Final release for non-client libraries | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | (I think it's Oslo things) | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | and: | 14:16 |
| shardy | We ran into problems here last cycle, as there were some folks considering tripleo-common a library | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | Jan 23-27 is Ocata-3 milestone / Feature freeze / Final release for client libraries | 14:17 |
| shardy | so worth clarifying that with dhellmann prior to the deadline I think | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | #action clarify if tripleo-common should be considered as a library or not | 14:17 |
| shardy | FWIW I think we shouldn't be considering any tripleo repos externally consumable libraries (perhaps with the exception of tripleoclient?) | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | I would like to branch stable/newton as late as possible to avoid backports | 14:18 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: I agree. | 14:18 |
| shardy | EmilienM: cool, it may be we need to change some tags for avoidance of confusion this time | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to update governance/tripleo tags | 14:19 |
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| EmilienM | any question / comment about release management? | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI | 14:20 |
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| trown | +1 to tripleo-common not being an external library | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | it seems like CI was pretty stable during the break | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | I'm trying to create a new CI job that would test composable HA scenario: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414585/ - any feedback is welcome | 14:20 |
| slagle | EmilienM: should we propose moving the 3nodes job to non-experimental? | 14:21 |
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| slagle | might be nice to see how stable that is running on all patches | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | slagle: I think it would be a good idea. Maybe in periodic? | 14:22 |
| slagle | before trying to go to 4 nodes | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | oh, on all patches? | 14:22 |
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| EmilienM | only for THT then, maybe. | 14:22 |
| slagle | sure, that would work | 14:23 |
| shardy | +1 sounds good | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | #action move 3nodes job to THT check -nv | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | any other update on CI? | 14:23 |
| sshnaidm | fyi, the promotion-blocking bug has a patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416078/ | 14:24 |
| sshnaidm | I've tested it yesterday with manual promotion | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: lgtm | 14:24 |
| sshnaidm | I'm talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1651811 seems like alert tag doesn't work.. | 14:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1651811 in tripleo "CI: undercloud idempotency step fails because of out of memory" [High,Triaged] | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | oops | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | do we know where the alert script is running from? | 14:25 |
| sshnaidm | containers patches were merged and promoted, so container CI job task is unblocked and I'm working on it | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: excellent news! | 14:26 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, the script is in infra somewhere.. | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | ok | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | anything else about CI? | 14:26 |
| sshnaidm | that's it | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | #topic Specs | 14:27 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | not sure we need to discuss much here | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | but all specs from now are targeted for Pike. | 14:28 |
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| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:30 | |
| EmilienM | feel free to ask anything or give feedback | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | ok sounds like we're done | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | thanks folks, see you next week! | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 14:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 3 14:31:25 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-01-03-14.00.html | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-01-03-14.00.txt | 14:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-01-03-14.00.log.html | 14:31 |
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| jpich | Thanks | 14:31 |
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| shardy | thanks all! | 14:31 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 3 15:03:30 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:03 |
| tmorin | hi everyone | 15:04 |
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| tmorin | hi bobmel doude eon`lewo matrohon pcarver timirnich | 15:04 |
| doude | Hi tmorin | 15:05 |
| tmorin | hi doude | 15:05 |
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| tmorin | nad happy new year by the way :) | 15:06 |
| tmorin | and | 15:06 |
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| doude | thx happy new year to you to | 15:07 |
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| tmorin | thx ! | 15:08 |
| matrohon | hi | 15:08 |
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| tmorin | hi matrohon ! | 15:09 |
| tmorin | not sure anyone else will join us now | 15:09 |
| tmorin | let's start... | 15:09 |
| tmorin | not much happened during the last two weeks | 15:09 |
| doude | in French ;) | 15:09 |
| tmorin | :) | 15:10 |
| pcarver | hi, joining late | 15:10 |
| tmorin | the key things that happened is (a) that the CI is broken in many places, because of changes beyond our reach | 15:10 |
| tmorin | hi pcarver ! | 15:10 |
| tmorin | and ... (b) ongoing work in neutron-lib on the API | 15:11 |
| tmorin | :) | 15:11 |
| tmorin | I have a fix in progress for one of the CI issues ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416263/ ) | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | another one was recently solved (dep version issue on the Routes package) | 15:12 |
| tmorin | and there is a last issue still unsolved: http://logs.openstack.org/93/414293/2/check/gate-networking-bgpvpn-dsvm-functional-ubuntu-xenial/0cdbd92/console.html#_2017-01-03_14_33_58_453894 | 15:12 |
| tmorin | the dulwich python package installation fails, because some C wrapper compilation fails to create a directory under /opt | 15:13 |
| tmorin | this happens in the functional test job | 15:13 |
| pcarver | tmorin: Would any of this affect devstack locally (i.e. not in OpenStack CI)? I tried to restack a devstack VM yesterday to validate API examples and it failed. | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | presumably because /opt/stack/... is created by root and then used by the stack user | 15:14 |
| pcarver | Since I was technically still on vacation I didn't spend any time investigating why it failed. | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: perhaps the broken dependency on the Routes package could impact a devstack | 15:15 |
| tmorin | pcarver: but I don't believe the other issue would | 15:15 |
| pcarver | ok, thanks | 15:16 |
| tmorin | devstack failing is unfortunately something that routinely happens :-/ | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | #topic neutron-lib & BGPVPN API | 15:17 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: do you want to give us an update ? | 15:17 |
| pcarver | tmorin: Nothing major. I updated for a little reviewer feedback. | 15:17 |
| pcarver | I saw you respond as well. One of the comments was on project ID | 15:18 |
| tmorin | yes | 15:18 |
| tmorin | I'm unsure about this one | 15:18 |
| pcarver | I'm pretty sure that I created the API examples directly through curl commands | 15:18 |
| tmorin | need to revive a devstack to check if our API currently provides the project_id or only the tenant_id | 15:18 |
| pcarver | So they should be accurate, but I'll double check once I get that VM restacked | 15:19 |
| pcarver | I think the API ref is pretty well complete at this point | 15:20 |
| tmorin | pcarver: yes | 15:20 |
| pcarver | There still seems to be some back and forth on the API definition regarding the sub-resource map | 15:20 |
| tmorin | pcarver: on project_id : providing it is certainly what the BGPVPN API /should be/ doing, so perhaps we can document that, and register a bug to track the fact that we don't do that yet | 15:20 |
| matrohon | I think bgpvpn is compatible with project_id | 15:20 |
| pcarver | My understanding is that there's neutron-lib code around manipulating the resource map but not around manipulating sub-resource map | 15:21 |
| matrohon | this has been done directly in the neutron framework | 15:21 |
| matrohon | pcarver, +1 | 15:21 |
| pcarver | perhaps we need to look into whether code we use for manipulating sub-resource maps should be made common to neutron-lib | 15:21 |
| tmorin | I'm lost: who is talking about sub-resource map ? who is talking about project_id ? :) | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: what code have you in mind which would manipulate the resource maps ? | 15:22 |
| matrohon | sorry, I'm talking about project_id for resources | 15:23 |
| matrohon | I didn't check what was happening for subressources | 15:23 |
| pcarver | tmorin: I don't know since I haven't looked in to it, but what I gathered from review comments was that there is common (i.e. shared) code for manipulating resource maps | 15:23 |
| tmorin | matrohon: ok, do you think the neutron framework would create "magically" for us the 'project_id' attribute in our resources, based on the presence of tenant_id perhaps ? | 15:23 |
| pcarver | but not for sub-resource maps | 15:23 |
| pcarver | which seems to be the heart of the objection to our use of sub-resource map | 15:24 |
| matrohon | tmorin : AFAIR, it does | 15:24 |
| tmorin | pcarver: there seems to be unit test code, but is there more ? | 15:24 |
| pcarver | I don't know yet. | 15:24 |
| pcarver | maybe it's just intent to write more vs already existing | 15:25 |
| pcarver | I'll try to figure out more | 15:25 |
| pcarver | but if the idea is that resource maps can be manipulated in a common way across extensions then it might make sense to do the same for sub-resource maps | 15:25 |
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| pcarver | presumably the whole point of putting sub-project API definitions into neutron-lib is to provide some sort of standardized mechanisms to the API of all neutron plus subprojects | 15:27 |
| pcarver | I don't really grasp all the implementation details. I initially thought this was just a cut and paste change. | 15:28 |
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| pcarver | i.e., moving the API definition, I thought I was just copying code from networking-bgpvpn repo to neutron-lib repo and then deleting it from bgpvpn-repo | 15:29 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: what I don't get is what/where is the code reading these datastructures, apart from neutron-lib unit tests and networking-foo reading API foo | 15:29 |
| pcarver | but that alone isn't really a valuable goal, so presumably the motivation behind it from the Neutron team's perspective is more than just cut and paste some code from one repo to another | 15:30 |
| tmorin | pcarver: if these are the only two, then the only thing needing (I presume) is extending the tests to read the sub resource maps as well | 15:30 |
| tmorin | pcarver: perhaps, but I haven't read anything about such a project yet | 15:30 |
| pcarver | tmorin: I'll try to find more details. Perhaps some of it is still ideas in people's heads that haven't been fully fleshed out yet | 15:31 |
| tmorin | yep | 15:32 |
| tmorin | we'll have to ask neutron core on how we can move on | 15:32 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:32 |
| tmorin | doude, any update on OSC CLI things ? | 15:32 |
| doude | work is done | 15:33 |
| doude | just need to write cli usage documentation | 15:33 |
| doude | then I'll submit the review | 15:33 |
| doude | I already submited a review on bgpvpn to revert the OSC patch | 15:34 |
| doude | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411205/2 | 15:34 |
| doude | actually failling due to CI issues | 15:34 |
| tmorin | ok | 15:35 |
| tmorin | let's wait for the python-neutronclient review to land before we removed the OSC extension from our repo | 15:36 |
| tmorin | thanks! | 15:36 |
| matrohon | yep many thanks doude | 15:36 |
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| doude | I though to set a dependency on python-neutronclient review on the bgpvpn revert patch | 15:37 |
| tmorin | next topic ... ? | 15:37 |
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| tmorin | yes, good idea | 15:37 |
| tmorin | #topic Atlanta PTG | 15:40 |
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| tmorin | the PTG is in 6 weeks | 15:41 |
| tmorin | I don't know exactly what will happen there around neutron | 15:41 |
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| tmorin | I'm surprised to not see anything on the list | 15:41 |
| tmorin | i haven't been able to find anything in #openstack-neutron IRC logs either | 15:41 |
| tmorin | I'm still planning to go | 15:42 |
| matrohon | tmorin, well, it's just big tables with a lot of beers, nothing to be proud of :) | 15:42 |
| tmorin | :) | 15:42 |
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| doude | :) | 15:43 |
| matrohon | tmorin, do you plan to go to the PTG? | 15:43 |
| tmorin | yes | 15:43 |
| tmorin | unless it is not confirmed that neutron folks would meet | 15:44 |
| tmorin | I presume neutron would meet | 15:44 |
| matrohon | that's for sure | 15:44 |
| tmorin | but in the absence of anything being said/discussed/announced, I'm a bit unsure... | 15:44 |
| matrohon | maybe armax can tell us more about it? | 15:45 |
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| armax | matrohon: the neutron PTG is scheduled as any other major openstack project | 15:45 |
| armax | if this is what you’re asking | 15:46 |
| matrohon | armax : we're looking for more info about the schedule | 15:46 |
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| armax | matrohon: as soon as I get informed on how to build an official one, I’ll disseminate | 15:46 |
| tmorin | hi armax :) | 15:46 |
| matrohon | armax, ack | 15:46 |
| armax | matrohon: it’s probably a bit early, but I suspect details will become known soon enough | 15:47 |
| tmorin | thanks for the answer, that's all we were needing | 15:47 |
| armax | we plan to go from tue to fri | 15:47 |
| armax | actually I think wed to fri | 15:47 |
| tmorin | armax: for those having to plan for travel, it may actually be a bit late | 15:47 |
| armax | as the first two days are for cross projects parties | 15:47 |
| armax | erm, sessions | 15:47 |
| tmorin | armax: mon-tue seems to be for cross project things | 15:48 |
| armax | tmorin: right | 15:48 |
| tmorin | armax: but neutron might have participation in cross projects things as well I guess... | 15:48 |
| armax | tmorin: yes | 15:48 |
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| pcarver | good to know. A few days would be easier to justify than a week. I haven't yet written up a travel request and I know my manager is going to ask for details on why I would need to go. | 15:49 |
| tmorin | armax: knowing that neutron cross project things would happen only on Tue and not Mon would allow some people to optimize their travel | 15:49 |
| tmorin | +1 | 15:49 |
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| armax | tmorin: agreed, let me find out more in the next few days | 15:50 |
| tmorin | armax: thanks! | 15:50 |
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| tmorin | do we have other topics to discuss ? | 15:52 |
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| tmorin | ok... seems like we don't | 15:55 |
| tmorin | thanks doude pcarver matrohon armax | 15:56 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 3 15:56:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-01-03-15.03.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-01-03-15.03.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-01-03-15.03.log.html | 15:56 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 3 16:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2017-01-03_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:00 |
| Drago | o/ | 16:00 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:00 |
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| jasond | o/ | 16:01 |
| randallburt1 | o/ | 16:01 |
| hieulq_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| jvgrant | Jaycen Grant | 16:01 |
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| hongbin | o/ | 16:01 |
| randallburt | o/ | 16:01 |
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| randallburt | that's better | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | hello jasond jvgrant Drago randallburt and hongbin | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | While we await other attendees, I'll share that I thought it was interesting that there are five Tuesdays in January this year. | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | strigazi mentioned that he will not attend today, but will join us next week. | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) Happy New Year! I'm looking forward to a great 2017! | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | I'm glad to see you back after the holidays, and extend gratitude to those who worked straight through. | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | any announcements from team members? | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) ACTION: adrian_otto to add http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107613.html to our 2012-01-03 team meeting agenda. | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | Status: Complete | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | we will cover this later in the agenda | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | Essential Blueprints | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | I expect many/most of these will have no comments this meeting | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | 1) #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/flatten-attributes Flatten Attributes [strigazi] | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi is not here to comment. Anyone else have remarks on this? | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | 2) #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/nodegroups Nedegroups [Drago] | 16:07 |
| Drago | I'm back from vacation. Happy New Year to everyone. No update. | 16:07 |
| jvgrant | I updated the spec and review a couple weeks ago | 16:07 |
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| jvgrant | to address concerns, waiting on further feedback | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I'll plan to review the spec | 16:08 |
| jvgrant | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352734/ | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks jvgrant | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | any other discussion on this BP? | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | 3) #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-etcd-cluster-coe Secure Central Data store(etcd) [yatin] | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | yatin is not here to comment. Anyone else have remarks on this? | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | I see that it still has at least one review remaining open | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | but looks close to finished to me. | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | any other remarks on this? | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | 4) #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades Cluster Upgrades [strigazi] | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi is not here to comment. Anyone else have remarks on this? | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | Other Work Items (none) | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Managing cluster drivers as individual distro packages | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107613.html | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | My gut reaction is to handle this in tree to keep it simple to begin with, and break it out if it becomes burdensome. Thoughts? | 16:13 |
| hongbin | the tc was discussing a similar topic (how to deal with third party driver) | 16:13 |
| Drago | Is there a way to have them in-tree but be installable, so that they can be uninstalled just like a third-party driver? | 16:14 |
| hongbin | it is better to wait for the tc to make a decision, then come back to how to deal with it in magnum | 16:14 |
| Drago | In-tree is good for development and trying magnum out, but I think it should be easy to remove the default drivers | 16:14 |
| randallburt | hongbin: were they on their way to giving guidance or are they just starting discussion? | 16:15 |
| hongbin | i think they are in the middle of the discussion | 16:15 |
| randallburt | hongbin: cool, then yeah, I think I agree with adrian_otto and hongbin in that its fine for now and then see what tc says in a few weeks | 16:16 |
| jasond | i also like in-tree for ease of development | 16:16 |
| jasond | it worked well for heat resources | 16:16 |
| randallburt | jasond: yeah, makes dev easy but not fun for operators | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | So we could start in-tree (option 1) and revisit that if the tc offers actionable guidance to the contrary | 16:16 |
| randallburt | jasond: its a bit of a pita for Heat resources tbh. This same discussion comes up in Heat ever other cycle too | 16:17 |
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| Drago | If we don't have them in-tree, we'll probably have to have a package for common driver files too or completely duplicate everything. Not fun | 16:17 |
| jasond | randallburt: we could always separate them out once the code becomes more stable | 16:17 |
| randallburt | jasond: agreed. doing it now while the driver interface was just updated isn't a great idea | 16:18 |
| randallburt | and we'll need a stable driver interface if we want to separate and encourage third party driver dev | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: do you have any objections to starting in tree-and breaking out later? | 16:19 |
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| hongbin | adrian_otto: np from me | 16:19 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, I'll record an action item to respond to the thread referencing this chat | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to respond to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107613.html with a reference to this chat. | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | any other remarks on this topic? | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | We plowed through the agenda in record pace. Looks like we can afford to end early today. | 16:21 |
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| hieulq_ | hi adrian_otto | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | hieulq_: hi | 16:22 |
| hieulq_ | I proposed the BP related to integrate OSProfiler in Magnum | 16:22 |
| hieulq_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/osprofiler-support-in-magnum | 16:22 |
| hieulq_ | Can you take a look? | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 16:22 |
| hieulq_ | Thanks :) | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | hieulq: if we approved this blueprint, is this something you could commit to completion in the Ocata release cycle? That gives you less than a month. | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html Ocata Release Schedule | 16:26 |
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| adrian_otto | Jan 23 it would need to be frozen. | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | hieulq: you still there? | 16:28 |
| hieulq_ | adrian_otto: yes | 16:28 |
| hieulq_ | Just thinking about the plan | 16:28 |
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| hieulq_ | I'm preparing some patch-set related to this BP | 16:28 |
| hieulq_ | But it could miss the frozen date | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | I suppose that's not a problem as long as it's added in a way that's disabled by default, and has clear comments that it's not yet supported. | 16:30 |
| hongbin | is there any reason the bp has to land in ocata? | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | I was worried about having a partially completed feature that we may need to patch out | 16:30 |
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| hongbin | there are potentially a few partially completed features (e.g. nodegroup, upgrade). i think that is unavoidable | 16:31 |
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| hieulq_ | hongbin: yes | 16:31 |
| hieulq_ | hongbin: so it's better to wait till next cycle, right? | 16:32 |
| hongbin | hieulq_: personally, i don't think it is necessary to wait, just start the implementation right away should be ok. | 16:33 |
| hieulq_ | hongbin: I'm on my way to implement it :-) | 16:34 |
| hieulq_ | And it could help us a lot in debugging the problem | 16:34 |
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| hieulq_ | so I hope this BP at least got approved | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto | approved | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | thanks hieulq | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | any other discussion before we wrap up today? | 16:38 |
| hieulq_ | Thanks adrian_otto | 16:38 |
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| adrian_otto | Our next team meeting will be on 2017-01-10 at 1600 UTC. See you then! | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 3 16:39:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-01-03-16.00.html | 16:39 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 3 19:00:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| catherineD | Alright, I guess many RefStack team members are still on vacation ... we will resume our IRC meeting next week! | 19:11 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 19:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 3 19:11:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-01-03-19.00.html | 19:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-01-03-19.00.txt | 19:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-01-03-19.00.log.html | 19:11 |
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