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tonyb#startmeeting requirements10:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  8 10:01:57 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.10:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.10:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)"10:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'requirements'10:02
tonyb#topic rollcall10:02
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tonybsigmavirus, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl: ping?10:02
dirko/10:02
toabctlhi10:02
tonybwe have an appology from prometheanfire10:02
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dirkhe's still doing vacation10:03
dirknot sure how allowed him to do that ;)10:03
tonyb;P10:04
tonybHe's on a plane heading home10:04
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tonyb#topic Thawing the current freeze10:05
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tonybIt looks like we'll branch requirements tomorrow (US time)  so once prometheanfire removes the -2 we can start merging patches10:06
dirk+110:06
dirkdid all other projects branch as well?10:06
* dirk isn#t following things atm10:06
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tonybI'd like to start with adding new projects to g-r.txt first as that's prety safe10:06
tonybdirk: yeah10:07
tonybdirk: manila was last but they did a thing10:07
dirkok, great10:08
dirkjust let me know and I'll start reviewing again10:08
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tonybI'd like to hold off on any minimum bumps in g-r but pretty much anything elase shoudl be fair game10:09
dirkok, so new projects and uc first10:10
dirkwfm10:10
tonybcool.10:11
tonybWe'd normally talk about the queue but we're frozen so meh.  We can work out what's controversial next week ;P10:12
tonyb#topic PTG Session10:12
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tonyb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgt-stable-requirements-ptg-pike10:12
tonybSo we have stuff to talk about on Tuesday morning10:12
tonybThere isn't much of an order but it's there10:13
dirkyeah, long list given the time10:13
tonybso start thinking and be ready for dicussion10:13
dirkunless we agree on everything of course :)10:14
tonybdirk: I think we can spill into the afternoon10:14
tonybdirk: we can certainly do some of the work in the afternoon session10:14
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tonybdirk: but yeah it's a lot to talk about ;P10:16
tonybAnything else for PTG?10:17
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tonyb#topic open discussion10:17
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tonybanything?10:18
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tonybWell if we don't have anything else we shoudl just call this a quick meeting10:20
tonyb???10:20
tonybWell thanks all.  Let's get ready for a bigger week ;P10:21
tonyb#endmeeting10:21
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Feb  8 10:21:48 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)10:21
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-02-08-10.01.html10:21
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-02-08-10.01.txt10:21
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-02-08-10.01.log.html10:21
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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  8 14:01:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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caoweihi dev14:01
zhurongo/14:01
devkulkarnihi caowei, zhurong14:01
devkulkarnigreat to see you14:01
caoweime too14:02
devkulkarnilets wait for a minute to see if others join14:02
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devkulkarnihere is agenda for today's meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2017-02-08_1400_UTC14:06
devkulkarni#topic Announcements14:07
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devkulkarni1) PTL election results are out14:07
devkulkarnihttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/111769.html14:07
devkulkarni2) Boston summit submission deadline extended14:08
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devkulkarnihttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/111758.html14:08
devkulkarni3) Boston summit submissions: We have submitted two talk proposals14:09
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devkulkarniTalk 1 focuses on Solum and Zun integration, Talk 2 focuses on comparing different container deployment strategies from our experiences in Solum14:10
devkulkarniall the talks will be available I believe on Feb 16 for voting purposes14:11
devkulkarnizhurong, caowei: will let you know when the voting opens14:12
zhurongthx14:12
caoweiok14:12
devkulkarnihave you submitted any talks?14:12
caoweii have two problems14:13
caowei1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/166245714:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1662457 in Solum "solum devstack keystone v3 support" [Undecided,New]14:13
caowei2. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430080/14:13
devkulkarnicaowei: looking14:13
devkulkarnicaowei: lets discuss the image_builder_service first as we have some comments on it on the patch14:15
devkulkarnidid you see zhurong's point about image_builder_service being referenced in pipeline resource and my comment on it14:16
caoweiyes , i saw14:17
devkulkarnicaowei: so what do you think14:17
devkulkarnicaowei: btw, good bug report about keystone v3 support14:17
zhurongyep, we should support it14:18
devkulkarnizhurong: can you triage the bug in your setup using the steps that caowei has outlined14:18
zhurongthis is not a bug, this indeed a BP14:18
devkulkarnisure14:18
devkulkarnizhurong: so you have also ran into this issue about keystone v3 I guess14:18
zhurongI just keep the v2 enable14:19
zhurongIf disable V2, there will can not work14:19
devkulkarnizhurong: sure..14:19
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devkulkarnicaowei: can you elaborate on your need for v3 a bit14:21
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caoweiKolla only supports Keystone v3  till now14:21
zhurongdevkulkarni I think we exactly need to support V314:21
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devkulkarnicaowei: ah I see14:22
zhurongNot only for Kolla14:22
caoweiI agree14:22
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devkulkarnizhurong: sure. yeah, that makes sense eventually14:22
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devkulkarnicaowei, zhurong: agree14:23
devkulkarniwe would need to understand what all things are required for supporting v314:23
devkulkarnido any of you know/have experience with v3?14:23
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devkulkarnilets do this.. we can create etherpad where we can list out things that need to be done to add v3 support14:24
zhurongI will register a BP, And will to do it14:24
devkulkarnihttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-keystone-v314:25
devkulkarnizhurong: that would be perfect14:25
devkulkarniif any of us find any relevant information, we can add that to the etherpad14:26
devkulkarniany more thoughts on the keystone v3 topic?14:26
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zhurongcaowei, Kolla had disable v2?14:28
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caoweiYes14:29
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devkulkarnion the topic of builder service..14:30
devkulkarnicaowei, zhurong: thoughts?14:31
caoweimost of projects support v314:31
zhurongI vote for stay the same14:32
zhurongyep, we need to support V314:33
devkulkarnizhurong, caowei: sure. lets get back on this topic once zhurong has had a chance to create the BP and had a chance to research on what all is required to support v314:34
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devkulkarnion the topic of builder service, what are your thoughts?14:35
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zhurongI vote for stay the same14:35
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devkulkarniyou mean, keep the builder service. Yeah, that is a simpler option14:36
devkulkarniI am fine with it as well.. but I thought caowei's kolla-ansible patch was running into some issues because of that14:37
devkulkarnicaowei: can you share that patch?14:37
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devkulkarnicaowei: is it this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420407/14:39
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caoweiIt can be kept, but we need to explain the reason.14:41
devkulkarnizhurong: what are the arguments to keep the builder service?14:41
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devkulkarniagree caowei.. if we are not using it, then it unnecessarily complicates deployment tools14:42
zhurongIf caowei can do the clean work, I agree14:43
devkulkarnicaowei, zhurong: I think we can remove the builder service as long as we do not break the pipeline api14:43
devkulkarnizhurong: yes14:43
devkulkarnisee, another view can be to remove the pipeline resource itself.. but that is too big a work right now14:44
devkulkarniwe should not worry about that14:44
devkulkarniwe should fold that resource in some how in our regular api14:44
devkulkarnithen we can cleanly remove any references to the builder service14:45
devkulkarniso that the kolla-ansible role patch can be merged14:45
devkulkarnidoes that make sense?14:45
devkulkarnicaowei: would you be able to take a stab at this?14:48
devkulkarnibasically, look at how we can fold the pipeline resource in our current api14:48
caoweizhurong: I think I have no idea to clean all of them.14:49
devkulkarniI think it should be doable14:49
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devkulkarnicaowei: I think the changes would be restricted only to the parts of the code where we refer to the builder service14:50
devkulkarniif you look here https://github.com/openstack/solum/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=build_service_url14:50
devkulkarnithere are not that many14:50
devkulkarnithe main changes are actually to pipeline_handler.py and mistral_actions/builder.py14:51
caoweiI will try14:52
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devkulkarnisee, the idea at that time was that the pipeline resource would talk to mistral which will invoke the builder service14:52
devkulkarnithe pipeline resource itself is I think available under our current api already (so, my earlier point of folding the pipeline resource within our api might be invalid -- please check)14:52
devkulkarnithe current picture is as follows14:52
devkulkarnipipeline resource (available in solum api) -> mistral_actions -> builder service14:53
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devkulkarniif we get rid of builder service, we can make mistral_actions call back in our api itself to perform the image builds14:54
devkulkarniat least, that's how it would be conceptually14:54
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devkulkarnicaowei: we can try to at least get to the point where it would be possible in the future to add mistral integration in our build step if someone is interested14:56
devkulkarniso, if you can provide a clean point for the mistral_actions/builder.py to invoke an endpoint in our api that would be sufficient14:57
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devkulkarnicaowei, zhurong: another thought is we get rid of builder_service immediately without worrying about mistral stuff right now14:58
devkulkarniwe create a bug/bp to track the work14:58
devkulkarnithat way, the kolla-ansible patch can land14:59
devkulkarniwe are almost at the end of our meeting time14:59
devkulkarnilets continue discussion after the meeting in solum channel14:59
zhurongsure14:59
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caoweiok15:00
devkulkarni#endmeeting15:00
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haleybhi15:00
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Swamihi15:02
Swamijust stepped out15:03
haleybhi swami15:03
haleybnot sure jschwarz is around15:03
haleyb#startmeeting neutron_dvr15:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  8 15:03:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:03
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haleyb#chair Swami15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: Swami haleyb15:03
haleyb#topic Announcements15:03
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Swamimay be then it would be a short meeting.15:03
haleybyes, maybe just the two of us :(15:04
haleybRC1 was cut, RC2 open for critical things, not sure we have anything on the list for it15:05
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Swamihaleyb: at this point we don't have any.15:05
haleybalso, master is essentially pike now, with rc2 code picked to stable/ocata15:05
SwamiIs pike already open15:06
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haleybunless i mis-understood, master is open, but we're trying not to merge too much until we can figure out the memory consumption issue15:07
Swamihaleyb: understood.15:07
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haleyb#topic Bugs15:07
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ravichandranHello15:07
Swamiravichandran: hi15:08
Swamihaleyb: thanks15:08
SwamiRegarding bugs, there are no new reported bugs for this week.15:08
SwamiThere was one bug that was reported last week in newton for floatingip not working on a OS reboot.15:08
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/165798115:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1657981 in neutron "FloatingIPs not reachable after restart of compute node (DVR)" [Undecided,New]15:09
SwamiI was not able to reproduce it in the master branch. But will try to see if the issue is still seen in newton.15:09
haleybSwami: thanks, can you add that to the bug?15:09
SwamiYes I will.15:10
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haleybi just noticed the last comment shows he's running the vpn-agent15:10
SwamiI will add my findings in the bug.15:10
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SwamiHe also mentioned that it is not easy to reproduce, so I am not sure if we would be able to see it.15:11
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1658060 - This bug I have not triaged it yet and will try to triage it this week.15:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1658060 in neutron "FirewallNotFound exceptions when deleting the firewall in FWaaS-DVR" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Yaohua Yan (sleepdream)15:11
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SwamiThe next one in the list is15:13
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/164743215:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1647432 in neutron "Multiple SIGHUPs to keepalived might trigger re-election" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar)15:13
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SwamiThis patch needs review - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407099/15:14
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haleybit was just updated this morning, i'll look again15:14
Swamihaleyb: ok thanks15:14
SwamiThe next in the list is15:15
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/164423115:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1644231 in neutron "fip router config is not created if the vm ports attached to FIPs have no device_owner" [Low,Triaged] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:15
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425919/ - This patch is almost ready for merge, but probably needs worflow.15:16
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haleybI just need to get another core to look at that one, armando should have some free time now :)15:16
Swamihaleyb: ok thanks15:17
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/162953915:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1629539 in neutron "Broken distributed virtual router w/ lbaas v1" [Undecided,Expired]15:17
SwamiThis is again reported against the LBaasv1 and still have to triage it.15:18
haleybSwami: the lbaas tag was removed from the bug, wondering if it's still valid15:19
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haleybi'm fine with not working on it any more, unless there is something of interest15:20
Swamihaleyb: yes I did see that the tag was removed, but the bug description is still the same.15:20
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Swamihaleyb: ok no problem15:20
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157748815:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1577488 in neutron "[RFE]"Fast exit" for compute node egress flows when using DVR" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:21
SwamiSince pike is open, once the memory consumption issues settles down, we should try to merge these two patches.15:21
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283757/15:22
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355062/15:22
haleybYes, they would be first on our list15:22
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/158369415:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:23
Swamihaleyb: I have a quesstion on these patches.15:23
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320669/15:23
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323618/15:24
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SwamiThe previous solution that we had to address the unbound ports with floatingip is on its way while try to address this issue.15:24
Swamihaleyb: my question to you is can we change that behavior and by default go with this approach or will it be an issue if someone is using it in its current behavior.15:25
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Swamihaleyb: we used to inherit the parent port properties of the device_owner and host_id for the allowed_address_pair, but that did not satisfy the Octavia and other regular VRRP use cases.15:26
haleybSwami: just so i'm clear, today this is done in fip namespace, but not fast enough, right?  we were looking at centralizing it15:27
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SwamiYes, in order to do it in fip namespace we inherit the properties of the parent VM port for the allowed_address_pair port and also we only do it when the port is in active state.15:27
SwamiWe do not support active-active configuration for the allowed_address_pairs attached VMs.15:28
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SwamiSo it is kind of a narrow use case.15:28
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haleybright.  has octavia found a way around it, or is just living with it15:29
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Swami_sorry got disconnected.15:30
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Swami_Octavia currently does not work with DVR because of this issue.15:31
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haleybSwami: is this something to just add to the PTG list?  If we can't get approval we can't fix it15:32
Swami_haleyb: yes I have already added this to the PTG list15:32
Swami_haleyb: I can have a discussion in the PTG meeting.15:32
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haleybSwami_: ok, thanks15:33
Swami_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike15:33
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Swami_Yes I have added a section under DVR to discuss about the unbound ports issue.15:34
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Swami_that's all I had for bugs today.15:35
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haleybok, thanka15:36
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haleybis there anyone here working on HA that has additional bugs to talk about?15:36
haleyb#topic Gate15:37
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haleybI put the DVR-multinode job on the back burner until current memory issue is addresses, so it will be a Pike thing15:38
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Swami_haleyb: understood.15:39
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haleyb#topic Stable backports15:39
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Swami_haleyb: I may have spin this patch out of the dependency https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421989/15:40
haleybSwami_: i think your recent change was proposed to stable/ocata?15:40
Swami_haleyb: I also proposed a patch to stable/newton15:40
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Swami_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430384/15:40
Swami_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429985/15:41
Swami_The later one is for /stable/ocata15:41
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Swami_Ihar mentioned that there was some dvr failures and so he had put a -2 on that patch until the root cause is identified in stable/ocata.15:41
haleybyes, i hadn't added myself to that one15:41
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haleybSwami_: you need help with anythign?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421989/ for example?15:43
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Swami_haleyb: if you have some time you can churn this to get rid of the dependency and I can focus on the unbound ports validation.15:44
haleybSwami_: sure, i can try and rebase it to master instead of the dependent15:44
Swami_haleyb: thanks15:45
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haleyb#topic Open Discussion15:45
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haleybanyone have other topics?15:47
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Swamisorry got disconnected again, I am not sure if this is my wireless or the hexchat issue.15:47
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haleybSwami: np, think we're done15:49
Swamihaleyb: I don't have any other topics today.15:49
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haleybok, thanks for getting up early Swami15:49
haleyb#endmeeting15:49
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SukhdevFolks ML2 meeting time16:00
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Sukhdevrkukura: are you here?16:01
SukhdevAnybody here for ML2 meeting?16:01
dasanindhi Sukhdev16:01
Sukhdevdasanind: Hi16:02
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Sukhdevdasanind : Looks like it is you and me today16:03
dasanindSukhdev: yeah16:03
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SukhdevI was hoping others will join in as well16:05
dasanindSo should we have the meeting?16:05
Sukhdevdasanind : I am thinking we cancel it - what do you say?16:05
dasanindmakes sense.16:05
dasanindI saw your comments on the api patch for live migration16:06
SukhdevYup - that is based upon our meeting -16:06
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dasanindYeah makes sense. Do you think we need to discuss it in pTG?16:07
Sukhdev dasanind : yup, that would be a good place16:07
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dasanindSukhdev: cool will add it to the etherpad and add you, rkukura and andreas16:08
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Sukhdevdasanind  sounds good - see you next week same place same time16:08
Sukhdevbye16:08
dasanindsee you16:08
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timsim#startmeeting designate17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  8 17:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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timsimping Kiall mugsie sonuk_17:00
timsim#topic Announcements17:00
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timsimstable/ocata branch created, https://github.com/openstack/designate/tree/stable/ocata17:00
timsimSo if people have things they want in there, we should do that.17:01
* timsim waits to see if his friends show up17:01
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timsimAnyway, I think we've still got a couple weeks before release, so we can talk abut that next time17:04
timsim#topic Action Items from last week17:04
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timsimGraham had a couple, but he did them17:05
timsim#topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring)17:05
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/166217417:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1662174 in Designate "[DOCS] Broken link in docs" [Low,Triaged]17:06
timsimTriaged low17:06
timsim#topic Stable Backport Triage17:07
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timsimI'ma wait for next week for a quorum17:07
timsim#topic Ocata 2 Release17:07
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timsimMentioned above, I'm sure Graham was probably going to say what I said, but if there's something important we'll do it in #openstack-dns17:07
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timsim#topic Open Discussion17:07
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timsimAnyone?17:07
* timsim how are you timsim?17:07
* timsim Pretty good and you?17:08
* timsim pretty great17:08
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timsimAlright, I'm going to go ahead and end this :P17:08
timsim#endmeeting designate17:08
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johnma#startmeeting Trove18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  8 18:00:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnma. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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songjiano/18:01
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johnmahello songjian18:02
songjianhello johnma18:02
trevormco/18:03
johnmaHi trevormc18:03
johnmawill wait for an additional minute or so18:03
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johnmaamrith if travelling this week and next18:04
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peterstaco/18:05
johnmahi peterstac, how are you18:05
peterstachi johnma, I'm good - yourself?18:05
johnmadoing good peterstac - the same old18:05
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peterstacyep :)18:06
johnmaalright, I guess we can get started.18:06
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johnma#info amrith cut rc-1 last Sunday and it looks like it failed due to some issues with the trovestack work18:07
johnmabut that was sorted and changes merged on master and stable/ocata but it looks like the proposal bot changes need to get merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429419/118:08
johnmaanyways we now have a stable/ocata branch and master is open for Pike18:08
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johnmaapart from that I don't have any other announcements.18:09
johnmaI will open this up for any open discussions18:09
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johnmadoes anyone have any changesets that needs review18:10
trevormcI did a little bit of digging into bugs this morning and thought of two I wanted to bring up18:10
johnmapeterstac: I will test the module-reapply patch today and review it. I just havent gotten a chance to test it18:10
peterstacok, thx18:10
johnmasure trevormc18:10
trevormc#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/165631718:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1656317 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "Remove XML support for Trove API" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Shaik Apsar (sa709c)18:11
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trevormcI'm not sure if we need the application/xml as the default for our api requests but I thought we aren't allowed that anymore based on this link18:11
trevormc#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68333/18:11
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trevormchttps://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/common/base_wsgi.py#L295 is what I'm referring to, do we use that for something else?18:13
johnmaand the bug you mentioned above is to reinstate xml support?18:14
trevormcno the opposite, Remove XML support18:14
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trevormcI know our trove/integration directory has xml files and that may be why we use it. I just wasn't sure.18:17
peterstacmaybe push up a test changereq and see what the gate says?18:18
trevormcyeah ok18:18
trevormcso I have another bug I wanted to raise18:18
peterstacit might work, but it also might require more changes ;)18:18
trevormc:(18:18
johnmaoh ok. I am not sure if that is used anywhere else. You could go ahead and put out a patchset for review18:19
trevormc#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/157866618:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1578666 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "Strong password policies enforced in Mysql will break replication" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Simon Chang (changsimon)18:19
trevormcAfter installing the plugin here and using it I faced in error from mysql for weak passwords. I don't think this error is propagated to the user18:19
trevormcI tried running a trove create and I ran into errors but I was just wondering if anyone else has experience with this plugin18:20
trevormcHere is the error that I received from mysql18:21
trevormc#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/59812618:21
johnmawhat plugin trevormc?18:22
trevormc#link https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/validate-password-plugin-installation.html18:22
peterstacI know Simon did some work in that regards (adding a mechanism so that the default passwords would be 'strong')18:22
peterstacI thought that got pushed US, but maybe it's still on the queue :(18:22
trevormcyeah I didn't see any changes from Simon18:22
peterstacI'll check with him next time I see him :)18:23
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johnmait doesn't look like a change from simon was pushed upstream18:23
trevormcthanks, that is all for bugs. Although I have another topic I wanted to bring up.18:23
johnmasure, go ahead18:24
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trevormcHas anyone here ran a fortify scan on trove? It shows security issues, a lot of which are false positivies. I just wanted to hear thoughts on pursuing changes related to those18:24
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johnmaI haven't tried that. what kind of security issues?18:25
trevormcOne in particular is logging passwords in the debug log and try catch pass cases18:25
peterstacwe have support for running bandit18:25
peterstacnot sure how that compares to fortify18:26
peterstacbut it also reveals a bunch of false-positives :)18:26
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trevormcyeah bandit and fortify have some overlap, I just want to say I have a report handy. I'm going to be pursuing some changes where possible.18:26
johnmathat sounds fine trevormc.18:28
trevormcI'd be interested in looking at bandit too, where is that supported?18:28
trevormcI haven't used bandit personally, I've only heard about the overlap by word of mouth18:28
peterstacI believe you can run it through tox18:28
trevormcoh nice18:29
peterstac'tox bandit'18:29
trevormcok thats all I had. Thanks for the info, and I'd like to follow up on the mysql password validation plugin18:29
trevormcexpect a patch soon for the xml stuff too, I'm not sure if Shaik wants to do that or not.18:29
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johnmasounds good trevormc18:31
johnmathanks. anything else?18:31
peterstacJust about the Redis stuff18:31
johnmayou have a link handy peterstac18:31
peterstac#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416361/18:32
peterstacThe Redis stuff is breaking because version 3.2.6 has new config options that we need to deal with18:32
peterstacthe above changereq switches to using a compiled redis18:32
peterstacbut even if we stay with the PPA, it's now pulling down 3.2.6 be default so we'd have to make the code changes at least18:33
johnmaaah ok. let me do this today as well.18:33
peterstac(and to have Newton pass, it'd probably need to be backported)18:33
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ShaikApsartrevormc: I will on Remove XML support for Trove API18:35
trevormcHi ShaikApsar, thanks for the update18:35
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peterstacthat's all I had :)18:39
trevormcso when we create trove cluster what version should we use? I've only used 3.0 :(18:40
trevormcfor redis18:41
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mariamjohnI am so sorry. I got disconnected from my IRC client18:42
trevormcahh I see it's 3.2.6, I should look at the patch first :)18:42
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trevormchi mariamjohn, it was quiet for the most part18:43
mariamjohnok, so #action for me18:43
peterstacthe other choice would be to pin the version to 3.0.718:43
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mariamjohn#action 1: review redis patchset18:44
peterstacmight be a quicker solution (and easier to backport)18:44
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mariamjohn#action 2: look to backport this to stable/newton and stable/ocata, right peterstac18:44
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mariamjohn#action 3: review module-reapply patchset18:46
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mariamjohnanything else peterstac, trevormc,songjian18:47
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peterstacnothing here18:47
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songjiannothing18:47
trevormcnothing too much. Thanks mariamjohn18:47
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mariamjohnawesome. thank you for joining today's meeting.  I will try to get these done today and in case anything else comes up, feel free to ping me on IRC18:48
trevormc\o18:49
mariamjohnhave a great rest of the day.18:49
mariamjohnI dont think I can end this meeting from a different client18:50
mariamjohn#endmeeting18:50
mariamjohnyeah nothing happened :)18:50
trevormcmaybe change your nick to johnma?18:50
trevormcidk how it works18:51
mariamjohntried it18:51
mariamjohnrestarting my other laptop18:51
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johnma#endmeeting18:54
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"18:54
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mariamjohnawesome worked. Thanks trevormc, songjian, peterstac18:54
peterstacthx!18:55
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johnsom-alt#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  8 20:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom-alt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
johnsom-altHi folks.20:00
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johnsom-alt#topic Announcements20:01
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johnsom-altYou are stuck with me for another release cycle20:01
johnsom-alt#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/111769.html20:02
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xgermano/20:02
johnsom-altPTL elections are complete20:02
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johnsom-altSee the link above for the list of the new (or old and new again) PTLs20:02
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johnsom-altAlso don't forget we have a PTG etherpad for topics to cover at the PTG20:03
johnsom-alt#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ptg-pike20:03
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johnsom-altAny other announcements today?20:04
johnsom-alt#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:04
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johnsom-altOn going work on the Octavia v2 API20:05
johnsom-altSame with Active/Active20:05
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johnsom-alt#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Active-_Active_Topology_commits20:05
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johnsom-altThat is the review etherpad for Active/Active.20:06
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johnsom-altrm_work and I have been working on py3x clean up.20:06
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rm_worko/20:06
johnsom-altWe merged the first part of that work which is getting our py3x gates going.20:06
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johnsom-altI have a patch ready to enable py3x functional tests as well, so you will see that soon20:07
rm_workwhich SHOULD pass! :)20:07
johnsom-altThere are a few people here... (I hope)20:07
sshanko/ :)20:08
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johnsom-alt(irccloud is having an opps day, so I'm using an alternate client/nick)20:08
nmagnezio/20:08
nmagnezisorry to be late20:09
johnsom-altAny other progress reports?20:09
johnsom-alt#topic Discuss VIP on the same network as lb-mgmt-net20:10
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nmagnezii have a question about the API patches in general. if it does not fit here i'll wait20:10
johnsom-alt#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/165948820:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1659488 in octavia "Octavia is not handling VIPs on the same subnet as the lb-mgmt-net" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to zhaobo (zhaobo6)20:10
nmagneziokay I guess I'll wait :)20:10
johnsom-altnmagnezi Let's talk about that in open discussion20:10
nmagnezijohnsom-alt, np20:10
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johnsom-altCurrently we have an issue if the user specifies the lb-mgmt-subnet as the VIP subnet.20:11
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johnsom-altI see two paths forward to make this a better user experience20:11
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johnsom-altcurrently we allow it, but we drop connectivity to the amphora-agent because the VIP process reconfigures the port/security groups20:12
johnsom-altI think we can either block the user from using the lb-mgmt-subnet for a VIP20:13
johnsom-altor we work on enabling the lb-mgmt-subnet to work inside the network namespace.20:13
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johnsom-altDo you folks have any comments/thoughts around this?20:14
xgermanis there a use case for having VIP on mgmt net?20:14
johnsom-altBTW, there is already a patch proposed to just block it.20:14
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johnsom-altThe last user I saw doing this was trying to setup a flat network PoC20:15
xgermanok, so no20:15
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jnieszIf it is blocked, couldn't they just create a new network that could reach the mgmt anyways?20:15
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rm_workAh20:16
rm_workI AM doing that20:16
rm_workand i have local patches to make it work already20:16
johnsom-altYes, the way folks normally set this up is with a dedicated lb-mgmt-subnet in neutron20:16
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rm_workjniesz: now always possible20:16
rm_work*not always20:16
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johnsom-altrm_work Can you comment on that bug and the linked patch?20:17
rm_workyes, my fix was VERY simple20:17
rm_workpossibly too simple? but it works... or maybe it's just right :P20:17
johnsom-altrm_work How did you resolve it?20:17
rm_worklooking for the patched file now20:18
rm_workpicking it out of my other patches20:18
johnsom-altHave you posted it or is it just local?20:18
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rm_workjust local20:19
johnsom-altOk20:19
rm_worki'll comment with it later20:19
rm_workbut, I would VERY VERY like to see it upstream20:19
johnsom-altOk, thanks20:19
rm_workso please let's not merge a patch that specifically blocks it :)20:20
johnsom-altI was leaning toward "make it work right" so happy to hear you have a solution20:20
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rm_works/ right//20:20
rm_workmaybe20:20
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johnsom-altOk, happy to hear you are motivated to "make it work"  Grin20:20
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johnsom-alt#topic I18n liaison request20:21
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johnsom-altOur friends on the I18n team have been working to localize our dashboard20:21
xgermanyeah!20:21
johnsom-altWe have a number of languages supported now, so good stuff.20:21
johnsom-altThey are inquiring if we can have a liaison join their meetings and help coordinate the effort.20:22
johnsom-altIs anyone interested in playing that role?20:22
johnsom-alt#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#I18n20:22
johnsom-altThat link has the expectations20:22
johnsom-altFYI, I am still acting as our oslo liaison20:23
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johnsom-altCrickets20:23
johnsom-altHa, I expected that.20:24
johnsom-altI will add that to my list of meetings to attend20:24
johnsom-alt#topic Open Discussion20:24
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xgermanI missed to step forward?20:24
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johnsom-altnmagnezi You had a question20:25
nmagneziaye20:25
nmagneziso.. I actually already asked rm_work about this, but just wanted to hear more opinions (and also ask a follow-up question). what is the best way to cherry-pick and use the API patches? say I want to actually see this code in action, how to trigger it? we don't have a python client to work directly against Octavia obviously.20:25
johnsom-altxgerman Were you volunteering for the I18n liaison?20:25
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nmagneziThe follow-up question is, in what order to cherry-pick those patches?20:25
xgermansure, I can do that20:25
johnsom-alt#agreed xgerman will be our I18n liaison20:26
xgermannmagnezi I am pretty close with the proxy… I can accelerate that20:26
johnsom-altThank you xgerman20:26
rm_workare the api patches all in a chain? I forgot to check20:26
rm_workif not, I would recommend we fix it so they are20:26
xgerman+120:26
nmagnezirm_work, yup that would probably make it more easy to review.20:26
johnsom-altYes, they are in a patch chain20:26
rm_workok20:26
rm_workthen you should be able to just grab the tail20:27
sshanknmagnezi, Right now the patches are in a dependent chain to help solve functional tests. To use them, probably using the last will pick the others as well.20:27
rm_work*checkout*, not cherry-pick20:27
johnsom-altSo, you can checkout the last patch in the chain that you are interested in20:27
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nmagnezixgerman, can you please link the patch so I'll keep track ?20:27
nmagnezirm_work, checkout, correct. sorry.20:27
johnsom-altI setup a devstack, usually with master20:27
sshanknmagnezi, This is the tail: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406328/20:28
xgermanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/418530/20:28
johnsom-altThen, go into /opt/stack/octavia and checkout the last patch in the chain I am interested in.20:28
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johnsom-altThen I do a "python(sometimes 3) setup.py install" as root20:28
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johnsom-altThen, I use screen -r to restart the o-* services impacted.20:29
nmagnezijohnsom-alt, aye, but how can I send the api call directly to octavia?20:29
johnsom-altI then use curl to do testing20:29
johnsom-alt#link https://gist.github.com/sbalukoff/e6cd600b4a12ee582f5e20:29
rm_worknice20:29
nmagnezino creds or anything?20:29
johnsom-altThat is a list of examples for the old v1 API20:29
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rm_workthat's for octavia20:30
johnsom-altYou will need to adjust them for the new v2 API20:30
johnsom-altNo creds are needed if you have "noauth" in your octavia.conf20:30
rm_workfor octavia I use: https://gist.github.com/rm-you/e1c2bf33aa570e310b1cdc7ebdd5dc2e20:30
rm_workmodified to use auth20:30
nmagnezithank you for the examples guys, they look really useful20:31
nmagnezi:)20:31
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johnsom-altYou can also use the postman extension for chrome and build up a library of REST calls.20:31
johnsom-altAs an alternative to using curl20:32
rm_workbut yeah, those aren't for neutron-lbaas, I'd need to look at modifying them for that20:32
johnsom-alt#link https://www.getpostman.com/20:32
johnsom-altFor those interested in the postman option20:33
rm_workoh, off that topic: I'm working on a networking driver to allow for using FLIPs internally instead of AAP to handle failovers, for the case where you can't guarantee all amps will be on the same L2 net -- if this is of interest to anyone, let me know20:33
nmagneziI think curl is fine, the examples you pasted can get me started with this20:33
johnsom-altnmagnezi Great20:33
johnsom-altjniesz I think what rm_work is talking about might interest you as well20:34
jnieszon our new networking design, we are looking to do a pure L3 design20:35
jnieszso depending what rack an amphora lands, it would be a different L2 segment20:36
rm_workI'm interested in how you're aiming to accomplish that20:36
rm_workWe have everything in L3s as well20:36
nmagnezi+120:37
rm_workBasically the same issue20:37
jnieszwas thinking of using anycast with ECMP, and then the distributor would be something like Quagga that updates bgp routes20:37
jnieszfor teh amphoras20:37
rm_workOK, so you're using a distributor20:37
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johnsom-altjniesz So you are looking at the Active/Active topology more than the others?20:38
jnieszthe distributor would not be in data plane20:39
jnieszjust used to update routes to our underlay20:39
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jnieszyes, looking on modeling this and getting a PoC20:39
rm_workwere you planning on putting it upstream?20:39
jnieszyes, definitely something we would wan to get upstreamed20:40
rm_workthis seems like a similar problem that we are solving, so it might be possible to collaborate20:40
jnieszright now we are in the very early stages of modeling it out20:40
rm_workok20:40
jnieszbut definitely would like to work with you on the design20:40
jnieszit seems to solve a lot of issues20:40
jnieszplus it supports IPv620:40
johnsom-altCool.  If we can help, please let us know.  We can also have brainstorming meetings and/or etherpads to collaborate with20:41
xgerman+120:41
rm_workOK. If you have any preliminary documents about the design I would love to take a look with our networking guys and see if this approach would work for us as well20:41
jnieszI can put together some docs, for a follow up discussion20:42
rm_workawesome20:42
johnsom-alt+120:43
johnsom-altSide topic, I forgot to mention I am also working on a patch for how we handle project_id through the API.  It should fix some issues out there with delete and the quota patch.20:44
johnsom-alt#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/162414520:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1624145 in octavia "Octavia should ignore project_id on API create commands (except load_balancer)" [High,New] - Assigned to Michael Johnson (johnsom)20:44
johnsom-altAny other questions/topics?20:44
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johnsom-altOk, thanks for joining today and all of your great work on Octavia!20:46
jnieszthanks20:46
rm_worko/20:46
johnsom-alt#endmeeting20:46
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