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| tonyb | #startmeeting requirements | 10:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 1 10:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 10:00 |
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| prometheanfire | o/ | 10:00 |
| toabctl | hi | 10:01 |
| tonyb | #topic rollcall | 10:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:01 | |
| prometheanfire | o/ | 10:01 |
| toabctl | hi | 10:01 |
| tonyb | sigmavirus, number80, dirk, coolsvap | 10:01 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire, toabctl hey | 10:01 |
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| tonyb | #topic where are we at with requirements reviews .... | 10:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "where are we at with requirements reviews .... (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:03 | |
| prometheanfire | fairly caught up :D | 10:03 |
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| tonyb | So I asked that we wait a little while before we merged stuff that bumped minimes in g-r | 10:03 |
| tonyb | I'd like to keep that up for another week for the cycle-trailing projects | 10:04 |
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| tonyb | but u-c and !='s shoudl be fine | 10:04 |
| tonyb | then once the cycle-trailing have branched we're all systems go! | 10:04 |
| prometheanfire | sure | 10:05 |
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| tonyb | #topic Any controversies in the Queue? | 10:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Any controversies in the Queue? (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:05 | |
| tonyb | for whatever reason there is a lot of red in the queue but the eventlet and pbr chnages are pretty important | 10:06 |
| tonyb | they both mean worhking with other teams to try and get the dependant patches merged | 10:06 |
| tonyb | Oh and webob :/ | 10:06 |
| prometheanfire | for eventlet 1/3 have merged when I last looked | 10:06 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: cool. | 10:06 |
| dirk | o/ | 10:06 |
| tonyb | hey dirk | 10:07 |
| dirk | yeah, the pbr bump to 2.0 is pretty surprising to me | 10:07 |
| dirk | and has a lot of fallout, since everything on the planet has a pbr < 2.0 in its requirements | 10:07 |
| dirk | can someone summarize the plan or did I miss that email? | 10:07 |
| tonyb | dirk: Well PBR's git was broken and if it was released as is it would have blocked the (docs) gate in a way that we (requirements team) couldn't control/fix | 10:09 |
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| prometheanfire | dirk: actually, when I updated ocata's packages I didn't notice much <2.0 for pbr | 10:09 |
| tonyb | dirk: so the we fixed pbr to $do_the_right_thing | 10:09 |
| tonyb | dirk: that got released today and it was decided that it was an API break so we bumped the major version | 10:09 |
| tonyb | that decision was preety quick and we (release team) didn't reliase that people had defensive caps in place | 10:10 |
| tonyb | dirk: so far I've only seen 5 things in g-r that have the cap | 10:10 |
| tonyb | so the fallout was a bit or a surprise | 10:10 |
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| tonyb | dirk: but the main aim of the release was to unblock/fix the sphinx mess we have ATM | 10:11 |
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| tonyb | ironically so far all the projects with defensive caps are unaffected by the API break | 10:11 |
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| tonyb | dirk: the plan to fix it is basically land the fixes in the identified projects and len use pbr | 10:12 |
| tonyb | projects that don't use constraints *and* use one of the 5 projects will need a local patch to get by until then | 10:13 |
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| tonyb | dirk: is that better? tl;dr: you didn't miss anything | 10:15 |
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| tonyb | next topic? | 10:18 |
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| tonyb | #topic Community goals | 10:20 |
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| tonyb | So there are 2 community wide goals | 10:20 |
| tonyb | py3 and wsgi | 10:20 |
| tonyb | I'm pretty sure the latter doesn't matter for us, as it's my understanding that it's limted to API services | 10:21 |
| tonyb | but py3 (well py35) does matter to us | 10:21 |
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| tonyb | I'd like to get us to the point this cycle where we're testing equally on py3 and pu2 and we set the basepython = python3 in the tox 'venv' | 10:22 |
| tonyb | Opinions on how doable that is? | 10:22 |
| tonyb | (keeping in mind the tooling rewrite we have to do) | 10:23 |
| prometheanfire | It'll take some work I'm sure, but it's more of a known quantity | 10:23 |
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| tonyb | Should we focus on testing with the venv thing as a stretch goal? | 10:24 |
| prometheanfire | we are using system libs? | 10:24 |
| dirk | tonyb: thanks, sorry am not fully focused on the meeting | 10:24 |
| tonyb | dirk: it's all good | 10:24 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: I don't follow? | 10:24 |
| prometheanfire | what do you mean venvs? | 10:25 |
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| tonyb | If you run tox venv -- $some_command have it run under py3 | 10:25 |
| tonyb | most of our docs say that's the way to consume our tools | 10:25 |
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| dirk | tonyb: I understand the part of unblocking sphinx, I was the one writing the patch for sphinx enablement and the one unbreaking pbr :) | 10:26 |
| dirk | it is just surprising that we bumped the major version, that is kind of unexpected | 10:26 |
| tonyb | ... Oh no they don't strange | 10:26 |
| dirk | but its fine, after such a long time its ok to bump the version | 10:26 |
| * asettle hears docs | 10:27 | |
| asettle | *looks around* | 10:27 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: ah | 10:27 |
| tonyb | dirk: Yeah it was a bit of a surprise but people with more pbr history made that call | 10:27 |
| tonyb | asettle: not real docs you can ignore us | 10:27 |
| asettle | tonyb: yeah I saw. | 10:27 |
| asettle | *ignoring* | 10:28 |
| prometheanfire | :D | 10:28 |
| tonyb | So python3 ... we need to do some planning and then pick someone to work on it | 10:29 |
| tonyb | Who would like to be that person? | 10:29 |
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| prometheanfire | my next 2 weeks are more or less booked out | 10:30 |
| prometheanfire | beyond that I may be able to | 10:30 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: undertood | 10:31 |
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| tonyb | I'll chat to the TC about what best aligns with the goal and then we can decide | 10:32 |
| tonyb | #topic Open Discussion | 10:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:32 | |
| tonyb | did y'all recover from the PTG? | 10:33 |
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| tonyb | Anything? | 10:35 |
| dirk | sort of, I'll go on vacation in order to recover :) | 10:35 |
| dirk | did we sort out on whether we go first with eventlet or with webob? | 10:35 |
| tonyb | dirk: Oh? when? | 10:35 |
| dirk | I think webob might be less pain | 10:35 |
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| dirk | next week | 10:35 |
| tonyb | dirk: nice. Have fun | 10:36 |
| prometheanfire | I'm dealing with nova fails right now :( | 10:36 |
| tonyb | dirk: I don't think we had an order in mind. I promised to write "all the test webob" changes | 10:36 |
| tonyb | so I'll do that tomorrow to get data on how close we are | 10:37 |
| tonyb | dirk: or if you have time I can shoot you the script to run and you can do it ... | 10:37 |
| prometheanfire | I think it'll end up being whichver one has the deps merge first | 10:38 |
| tonyb | dirk: but we're still blocked on the dependant patches anyway :( | 10:38 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: yeah. | 10:39 |
| tonyb | dirk: but yes I agree webob is likley to less challenging | 10:39 |
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| tonyb | anything else? | 10:41 |
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| tonyb | If we think of anything else there is always #openstack-requirements | 10:43 |
| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 10:43 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 10:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 10:43:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-03-01-10.00.html | 10:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-03-01-10.00.txt | 10:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-03-01-10.00.log.html | 10:43 |
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| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 1 13:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 13:00 |
| alexchadin | o/ | 13:00 |
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| Yumeng__ | Hi | 13:00 |
| acabot | o/ | 13:00 |
| licanwei | hi | 13:00 |
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| pshedimb | hi | 13:01 |
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| ostroverkhov | hi | 13:01 |
| chrisspencer_ | o/ | 13:01 |
| hidekazu | hi, good night :) | 13:01 |
| alexchadin | #info Today we have the following agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#03.2F01.2F2017 | 13:01 |
| alexchadin | #topic Announcements | 13:01 |
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| adisky_ | hi | 13:01 |
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| alexchadin | #info PTG is over, all blueprints have been prioritised | 13:01 |
| alexchadin | We've made it and our launchpad is in order again :) | 13:02 |
| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-watcher-ptg | 13:02 |
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| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 13:02 |
| alexchadin | #info Prudhvi Rao Shedimbi is in Watcher Core now | 13:02 |
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| alexchadin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112313.html | 13:03 |
| sballe_ | congrats! | 13:03 |
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| alexchadin | congratulations! | 13:03 |
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| pshedimb | thank you :) | 13:03 |
| alexchadin | #info Hidekazu Nakamura is in Watcher Core now | 13:04 |
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| alexchadin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112774.html | 13:04 |
| hidekazu | I'm honored. | 13:04 |
| sballe_ | congrats! | 13:04 |
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| hidekazu | thanks. | 13:04 |
| alexchadin | #info licanwei is in Watcher Core now | 13:04 |
| alexchadin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112379.html | 13:05 |
| sballe_ | licanwei: congrats! | 13:05 |
| acabot | #link http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/watcher/180 | 13:05 |
| licanwei | thanks all | 13:05 |
| acabot | nick with stars are core ;-) | 13:05 |
| Yumeng__ | Cool! We have three new cores! Congrats! | 13:05 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 13:05 |
| vincentfrancoise | pshedimb: congrats! | 13:05 |
| alexchadin | It was month was a lot of changes | 13:06 |
| vincentfrancoise | hidekazu: おめでとう | 13:06 |
| hidekazu | ありがとう | 13:06 |
| vincentfrancoise | licanwei: congrats to you too | 13:06 |
| adisky_ | congrats!! to all new cores :) | 13:06 |
| licanwei | 谢谢 | 13:06 |
| pshedimb | thanks all! :) | 13:06 |
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| alexchadin | Unfortunately, jed56 has stepped down from Watcher Core | 13:07 |
| sballe_ | pshedimb: licanwei hidekazu It is well derserved. continue the great work | 13:07 |
| alexchadin | #info jed56 stepped down from Watcher Core | 13:07 |
| pshedimb | thanks sballe_ :) | 13:07 |
| alexchadin | Seems that that all now :) | 13:08 |
| alexchadin | Congratulations to licanwei pshedimb and hidekazu! | 13:08 |
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| alexchadin | any other nnouncements? | 13:09 |
| alexchadin | announcements* | 13:09 |
| alexchadin | well, move on | 13:10 |
| alexchadin | #topic Review Action Items | 13:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 13:10 | |
| alexchadin | Watcher specs | 13:10 |
| alexchadin | audit-tag-vm-metadata needs new PS to provide a way to filter tagged VMs by Watcher itself (according to PTG proposals) | 13:11 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 13:11 |
| alexchadin | #action hvprash update spec with new PS | 13:12 |
| alexchadin | gnocchi-watcher spec needs reviews | 13:13 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437261/ | 13:13 |
| alexchadin | who would like to review it? | 13:13 |
| licanwei | +1 | 13:13 |
| hidekazu | +1 | 13:13 |
| pshedimb | +1 | 13:13 |
| vincentfrancoise | +1 | 13:14 |
| alexchadin | #action licanwei hidekazu pshedimb vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437261/ | 13:14 |
| alexchadin | It is high priority task so it would be great to have as many reviews on it as possible | 13:15 |
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| sballe_ | alexchadin: I can review too | 13:15 |
| alexchadin | #action sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437261/ | 13:15 |
| alexchadin | noisy-neighbor-strategy needs new PS and answer on questions | 13:16 |
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| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 13:16 |
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| alexchadin | licanwei asked to explain algorithm | 13:16 |
| pshedimb | alexchadin, we are still working on algo | 13:16 |
| sballe_ | yes we have that down now | 13:16 |
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| acabot | I'd like to review it | 13:17 |
| pshedimb | i'll update it soon. | 13:17 |
| alexchadin | #action acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 13:17 |
| alexchadin | pshedimb, sballe_ great! Waiting for it | 13:18 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 13:18 |
| alexchadin | workload-characterization-grammar take a look into other frameworks like TOSCA and push new PS | 13:18 |
| alexchadin | hvprash is still not here, so I just mark it for him | 13:19 |
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| sballe_ | BTW that was a great idea to look into Tosca. I am definetly interested in review this spec | 13:19 |
| alexchadin | #action hvprash take a look into other frameworks like TOSCA and push new PS for workload-characterization-grammar | 13:19 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: chrisspencer_ told me he was working on this spec now | 13:20 |
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| sballe_ | I am confused? or misremembering? | 13:20 |
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| alexchadin | sballe_: There are a lot of reviewers already, almost all get notification when it is updated :) | 13:20 |
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| sballe_ | alexchadin: I know. I just like the tosca idea | 13:21 |
| chrisspencer_ | alexchadin, sballe_ +1 yes we will be looking into TOSCA | 13:21 |
| alexchadin | chrisspencer_: when do you plan to update it? | 13:21 |
| chrisspencer_ | alexchadin: will sync with hvprash to make sure it satisfies his original vision. by end of the week | 13:22 |
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| alexchadin | #action chrisspencer_ update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 13:23 |
| alexchadin | it is very long-live spec, we are very interesting in it | 13:23 |
| alexchadin | stale-action-plan needs reviews | 13:24 |
| acabot | alexchadin : wrong link on chris action ;-) | 13:24 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432193/ | 13:24 |
| alexchadin | #action chrisspencer_ update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 13:25 |
| alexchadin | acabot: thanks :) | 13:25 |
| acabot | you can use # undo to remove previous actions from the minutes | 13:25 |
| alexchadin | stale-action-plan has got some +1 already | 13:25 |
| alexchadin | #undo | 13:26 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action chrisspencer_ update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 13:26 |
| alexchadin | #undo | 13:26 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432193/ | 13:26 |
| alexchadin | #undo | 13:26 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action chrisspencer_ update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 13:26 |
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| alexchadin | #action chrisspencer_ update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 13:26 |
| acabot | great job ;-) | 13:26 |
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| alexchadin | who would like to review stale-action-plan? | 13:26 |
| acabot | I do | 13:27 |
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| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432193/ | 13:27 |
| hidekazu | +1 | 13:27 |
| alexchadin | #action hidekazu acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432193/ | 13:27 |
| alexchadin | action-versioned-notifications-api needs core reviews | 13:28 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420612/ | 13:28 |
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| acabot | +1 | 13:28 |
| alexchadin | This is verisoned-related spec and is very similar to others | 13:29 |
| alexchadin | #action acabot alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420612/ | 13:29 |
| alexchadin | reduce-power-consumption needs new PS and answer on questions | 13:30 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/ | 13:30 |
| alexchadin | there are some unanswered questions from vincentfrancoise | 13:30 |
| alexchadin | and from chrisspencer_ too | 13:30 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: when could you update it? | 13:31 |
| acabot | we discussed it at the PTG and it should focus on adding power on/off actions to watcher | 13:31 |
| sballe_ | I will review too once a new patch is up | 13:31 |
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| licanwei | alexchadin:we will update | 13:32 |
| alexchadin | #action licanwei Yumeng__ sync your patch with PTG proposals and update it | 13:32 |
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| alexchadin | #action sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/ once new PS is up | 13:33 |
| alexchadin | cancel-action-plan needs to give some answers and provide new PS | 13:33 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432264/ | 13:33 |
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| adisky_ | alexchadin: I need team opinion on revert action | 13:34 |
| sballe_ | yeah I have some issues with this BP | 13:34 |
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| acabot | we said at PTG that there will be no roll back after canceling | 13:34 |
| alexchadin | acabot: +1 | 13:34 |
| sballe_ | as you can see in my comments | 13:34 |
| acabot | so it probably needs an update | 13:34 |
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| sballe_ | acabot: +1 thx you | 13:34 |
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| adisky_ | i have no problem in removing revert from it. | 13:35 |
| sballe_ | adisky_: if you do I am fine with the bp except for the nits ;) | 13:35 |
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| adisky_ | but we have discussed before that revert is necessary, i think i discussed with vincentfrancoise or acabot or alexchadin | 13:35 |
| acabot | I can review as soon as adisky_ update it | 13:36 |
| sballe_ | same here | 13:36 |
| adisky_ | ok so should i remove revert?? | 13:36 |
| acabot | adisky_ : sorry if we missed your arguments but we agree at PTG to not run the roll back | 13:36 |
| sballe_ | I do not believe we can revert without leaving the cluster in a funky state. and in most scenarios the cluster state will have changed between the actions | 13:37 |
| adisky_ | acabot: ok | 13:37 |
| acabot | adisky_ : any IRC log availbale , | 13:37 |
| acabot | ? | 13:37 |
| adisky_ | opinions on abort as well?? | 13:37 |
| sballe_ | abort should fine right since it stop the action plan. | 13:37 |
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| sballe_ | You can tehn reissue a new audit to get thinsg optimized gaian | 13:38 |
| alexchadin | adisky_: cluster state is changing very fast. Reverting actions may cause unexpected state of cluster | 13:38 |
| pshedimb | adisky_, can you explain abort? | 13:38 |
| adisky_ | acabot: yes it must be in openstack-watcher channel logs. | 13:38 |
| acabot | adisky_ : a day in mind ? :-D | 13:38 |
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| alexchadin | #action acabot sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432264/ when new PS is proposed | 13:38 |
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| adisky_ | sballe_ acabot I will update the specs by tomarrow | 13:39 |
| sballe_ | adisky_: thx | 13:39 |
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| alexchadin | adisky_: thx | 13:40 |
| alexchadin | Watcher | 13:40 |
| alexchadin | gnocchi-watcher implementation needs reviews | 13:40 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438530/ | 13:40 |
| acabot | adisky_: please add IRC log in References if needed | 13:40 |
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| alexchadin | new PS was provided today, feel free to review it | 13:41 |
| alexchadin | action-versioned-notifications-api needs final core reviews | 13:41 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427646/ | 13:41 |
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| adisky_ | acabot: ok | 13:42 |
| alexchadin | who would like to review it? | 13:42 |
| alexchadin | dtardivel? | 13:42 |
| acabot | already +2 by vincentfrancoise | 13:42 |
| acabot | ok you can add dtardivel on this | 13:43 |
| alexchadin | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427646/ | 13:43 |
| alexchadin | suspended-audit-state needs reviews | 13:43 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu uploaded new version today, chrisspencer_ already +1 it | 13:44 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: low priority ;) | 13:44 |
| alexchadin | who would like to review it too? | 13:44 |
| licanwei | +1 | 13:44 |
| Yumeng__ | +1 | 13:45 |
| vincentfrancoise | +1 | 13:45 |
| vincentfrancoise | oh no sorry I already did it I forgot | 13:45 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438800/ | 13:45 |
| hidekazu | vincentfrancoise: not spec, but code. | 13:46 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: you haven't reviewed it yet ;) | 13:46 |
| pshedimb | +1 | 13:46 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: ahaha re-clicked on the link that was above | 13:46 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: so I'll review it then | 13:47 |
| alexchadin | #action licanwei Yumeng__ vincentfrancoise pshedimb review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438800/ | 13:47 |
| alexchadin | Watcher CLI & Dashboard | 13:47 |
| alexchadin | There are some PS: | 13:48 |
| alexchadin | Remove support for py34 needs final core reviews | 13:48 |
| alexchadin | Remove unused logging import needs final core reviews | 13:48 |
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| alexchadin | Refactor the watcher dashboard enable file needs final core reviews | 13:48 |
| alexchadin | Update the path of watcher dashboard enable file needs final core reviews | 13:48 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430627/ | 13:48 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435882/ | 13:48 |
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| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429257/ | 13:48 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429269/ | 13:48 |
| pshedimb | I'll do it now itself | 13:49 |
| Yumeng__ | Thx | 13:49 |
| alexchadin | they are not big, so we need to merge them ASAP please | 13:49 |
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| pshedimb | Looks like I'm not core in dashboard ;) | 13:49 |
| pshedimb | Unable to give +2 | 13:50 |
| alexchadin | I will add all core reviewers to these patches | 13:50 |
| alexchadin | pshedimb: We will fix it ;) | 13:50 |
| alexchadin | Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 13:50 |
| vincentfrancoise | I'll W+1 it then | 13:50 |
| alexchadin | cinder model integration needs to get review from cinder devs and to be assigned | 13:50 |
| pshedimb | alexchadin, okay :) | 13:50 |
| alexchadin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cinder-model-integration | 13:50 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: please assign me. | 13:51 |
| acabot | pshedimb chrisspencer_ : you talked about adding OSIC cinder team in the discussion, do you want to iterate on spec ? | 13:51 |
| acabot | or before | 13:51 |
| pshedimb | acabot, Yeah, Chris already started a mail chain yesterday | 13:52 |
| chrisspencer_ | acabot: I will fwd it to them today | 13:52 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin assign hidekazu to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cinder-model-integration | 13:52 |
| acabot | ok great, please let us know if we need to start a spec already | 13:52 |
| alexchadin | cron-based-continuous-audits provide spec with cron and DB persistence updates | 13:52 |
| pshedimb | I saw a mail yesterday regarding this from chrisspencer_ ? | 13:52 |
| alexchadin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cron-based-continuous-audits | 13:52 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin write spec and upload it | 13:53 |
| acabot | alexchadin : not in pike ;-) | 13:53 |
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| alexchadin | acabot: oh, you are right | 13:53 |
| alexchadin | #undo | 13:53 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action alexchadin write spec and upload it | 13:53 |
| alexchadin | service-versioned-notifications-api needs spec and new PS for implementation | 13:53 |
| alexchadin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/service-versioned-notifications-api | 13:54 |
| ostroverkhov | Sorry, I was sick a few days, today added a new the PS, but without tests. Tests will try to add tomorrow. | 13:54 |
| alexchadin | ostroverkhov: when do you plan to prepare spec? | 13:54 |
| acabot | ostroverkhov: ok could you add a mention to the BP in your commit msg ? | 13:54 |
| ostroverkhov | I think tommorow too | 13:55 |
| alexchadin | #action ostroverkhov add spec and tests to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/service-versioned-notifications-api | 13:55 |
| ostroverkhov | acabot: yes | 13:55 |
| alexchadin | #topic Open discussions | 13:55 |
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| acabot | ostroverkhov: and topic should be bp/service-versioned-notifications-api | 13:55 |
| alexchadin | acabot wanted to talk about Nova discussions at PTG | 13:56 |
| acabot | in 2 min | 13:56 |
| alexchadin | but only 5 minutes left | 13:56 |
| acabot | I had a talk with ttx about respecting nova policies | 13:56 |
| acabot | he had a talk with nova PTL about it | 13:56 |
| alexchadin | So I move left discussions to the next week | 13:56 |
| alexchadin | #action move left discussions to the next week | 13:57 |
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| acabot | we aggreed to send a mail on the ML to explain where we are in Watcher and what we need from Nova to respect nova policies, the technical comitee will respond to it | 13:57 |
| alexchadin | acabot: nice! | 13:57 |
| sballe_ | I need to go. talk to you on the watcher irc channel | 13:57 |
| alexchadin | well, thank you all | 13:57 |
| acabot | I will start an etherpad with the email content so that we can review it next week | 13:57 |
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| acabot | #action acabot start etherpad for mail to nova | 13:58 |
| alexchadin | it was my first meeting as chair :) | 13:58 |
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| acabot | alexchadin : good job !! | 13:58 |
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| pshedimb | good work alexchadin :) | 13:58 |
| alexchadin | We have to end the meeting | 13:58 |
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| alexchadin | thank you! | 13:58 |
| acabot | thx | 13:58 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: Good job! | 13:58 |
| hidekazu | thanks! | 13:58 |
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| alexchadin | BTW there are two minutes left ;) | 13:58 |
| Yumeng__ | Thx bye | 13:58 |
| licanwei | good | 13:58 |
| licanwei | bye | 13:58 |
| pshedimb | bye | 13:58 |
| vincentfrancoise | bye | 13:58 |
| adisky_ | thanks bye | 13:58 |
| alexchadin | thanks, bye | 13:59 |
| alexchadin | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 13:59:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-03-01-13.00.html | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-03-01-13.00.txt | 13:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-03-01-13.00.log.html | 13:59 |
| devkulkarni1 | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 1 14:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| devkulkarni1 | hi zhurong | 14:01 |
| zhurong | hi | 14:01 |
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| caowei | hi | 14:02 |
| devkulkarni1 | hi caowei | 14:02 |
| devkulkarni1 | looks like Ablu and vijendar are not around yet | 14:02 |
| devkulkarni1 | lets discuss the patches first then | 14:03 |
| devkulkarni1 | what say? | 14:03 |
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| devkulkarni1 | zhu, I just commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425001/5 | 14:04 |
| devkulkarni1 | let me know if my comment makes sense | 14:04 |
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| zhurong | let me check | 14:04 |
| devkulkarni1 | sure | 14:05 |
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| devkulkarni1 | caowei: any blockers for this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430080/ ? | 14:06 |
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| caowei_ | sorry | 14:10 |
| devkulkarni1 | no worries.. I was just checking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430080/ | 14:11 |
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| vijendar | o/ | 14:11 |
| devkulkarni1 | hi vijendar | 14:11 |
| devkulkarni1 | we have just started | 14:11 |
| devkulkarni1 | discussing about patches | 14:11 |
| caowei_ | Network is bad | 14:11 |
| devkulkarni1 | we have zhurong and caowei_ with us as well | 14:11 |
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| devkulkarni1 | once we wrap up discussion about patches we can continue discussion that we started last week | 14:12 |
| vijendar | sure | 14:12 |
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| devkulkarni1 | caowei, zhurong: let me know what you think about my comments on the patches | 14:13 |
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| devkulkarni1 | caowei, zhurong: you can also reply on the patch later if that is more convenient | 14:15 |
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| devkulkarni1 | I will wait for another minute and then we can switch to the other discussion | 14:16 |
| devkulkarni1 | alright.. | 14:18 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong, caowei, vijendar: so what are your thoughts on the topic that we had started discussing in the last meeting? | 14:19 |
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| vijendar | I am leaning towards options C now | 14:20 |
| devkulkarni1 | vijendar: ack | 14:20 |
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| devkulkarni1 | vijendar: do you want to elaborate a bit on your thought process behind it? | 14:21 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni1: sure | 14:22 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong, caowei: we just started on the topic that we had started in last meeting | 14:22 |
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| devkulkarni1 | zhurong, caowei, vijendar: please share your thoughts/comments | 14:22 |
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| vijendar | devkulkarni1: I was thinking about option A and was planning to commit for Docker swarm support, but not sure if I will be completing that feature | 14:24 |
| vijendar | in this cycle just by my self | 14:25 |
| caowei | I need someone cooperate with me for the patch. | 14:25 |
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| devkulkarni1 | vijendar: so we don't have to complete it as such.. as long as there are some patches merged and some patches in progress that is fine | 14:25 |
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| devkulkarni1 | caowei: ack. | 14:25 |
| devkulkarni1 | caowei: I was going to suggest we tap pt_15 to work with you | 14:26 |
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| devkulkarni1 | would you be able to guide her on your patch? | 14:26 |
| devkulkarni1 | vijendar: I understand that docker swarm support is big item | 14:26 |
| devkulkarni1 | vijendar, caowei: btw, do you know if you will be traveling to Boston for the summit? | 14:27 |
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| vijendar | devkulkarni1: as of now, I don't have plan Boston plan | 14:28 |
| devkulkarni1 | vijendar: I see | 14:28 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: what are your thoughts? | 14:28 |
| zhurong | I vote for A | 14:29 |
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| caowei | i haven't plan to go.. | 14:29 |
| devkulkarni1 | caowei: ack | 14:29 |
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| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: ack | 14:29 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: can you share your thought process a bit? | 14:30 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni1: how about your vote? | 14:30 |
| devkulkarni1 | vijendar: I am 50/50 between A and C | 14:30 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni1: :) | 14:30 |
| zhurong | I had tested my patch with keystone V3, most of the command can works | 14:30 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: btw, I want to commend your keystone v3 patches | 14:31 |
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| devkulkarni1 | and all the other work that you have done from joining the team | 14:31 |
| devkulkarni1 | it is very good.. shows your commitment for the project | 14:32 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: do you know how would be your participation level after Boston summit? | 14:32 |
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| caowei | I vote for A | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni1 | caowei: I see | 14:33 |
| zhurong | same as usual | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni1 | caowei: can you elaborate on your thought process as well? | 14:34 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: okay. | 14:35 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: btw, do you know if you will be attending the Boston summit or not? | 14:35 |
| zhurong | I am not sure, our company only support the people who have the topic in the summit, If my topic selected, I will be there if I can apply the USA visa | 14:36 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: you also have the option of presenting in the fishbowl session | 14:37 |
| devkulkarni1 | I can nominate you for that | 14:37 |
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| devkulkarni1 | did you check heidi's email that I forwarded to you | 14:38 |
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| zhurong | my boss have in business travel, This should discuss with him | 14:38 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: I can understand | 14:39 |
| zhurong | :( | 14:39 |
| zhurong | I want to attend, but ... | 14:39 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: if you can find it out in next couple of days that will be good.. I need to inform heidi about whether we as a team would be able to present at the fishbowl session | 14:39 |
| devkulkarni1 | lets park the topic of boston summit for a bit | 14:40 |
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| devkulkarni1 | and go back to the earlier topic | 14:40 |
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| devkulkarni1 | caowei: can you elaborate your thought process for choosing option A? | 14:41 |
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| caowei | I'm not very clear the patch's difficulty. | 14:42 |
| devkulkarni1 | caowei: you mean the difficulty of the solum-builder-service removal patch? | 14:43 |
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| caowei | yes | 14:43 |
| devkulkarni1 | caowei: btw, the reason we had said we want to remove the builder-service was to make your ansible role patch merge, right? | 14:44 |
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| devkulkarni1 | I was wondering if there is a way that patch can be merged without us having to remove the solum-builder-service? | 14:44 |
| devkulkarni1 | something for us to think about.. | 14:45 |
| devkulkarni1 | going back to the point on choosing option A, caowei, apart from the solum-builder-service patch, do you have any other feature/patch in mind that you want to work on in this cycle? | 14:46 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: on a related topic, you are still planning to take up PTL role after this cycle, right? | 14:47 |
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| zhurong | devkulkarni1 If you want have a rest, I will take over | 14:49 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: I was just wondering since I am getting swamped by other things and won't be able to commit dedicated time after this cycle | 14:50 |
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| devkulkarni1 | and I get worried about all the community-wide requirements that are coming up | 14:50 |
| devkulkarni1 | also, we don't have enough contributors to completing them | 14:51 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: for this cycle I am fine, but I want to just make sure that we have a good transition plan in place | 14:52 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: glad to know that you are prepared to take up the role :) | 14:52 |
| devkulkarni1 | nothing better than a smooth transition | 14:53 |
| devkulkarni1 | I guess to wrap up the discussion then | 14:53 |
| devkulkarni1 | should we stick with option A? | 14:53 |
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| zhurong | sure | 14:53 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong, caowei, vijendar: please convey your final decisions | 14:53 |
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| zhurong | A +1 | 14:54 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong, caowei, vijendar: ^ | 14:54 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: ack | 14:54 |
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| vijendar | my final vote is for C, but ok with A and I can contribute to docker swarm support | 14:55 |
| devkulkarni1 | vijendar: ack | 14:55 |
| vijendar | but please note that we may not able to complete the docker swarm support completely in this cycle | 14:55 |
| caowei | A +1 | 14:55 |
| devkulkarni1 | vijendar: yes, completely understand | 14:56 |
| devkulkarni1 | caowei: thanks | 14:56 |
| devkulkarni1 | alright.. lets go with option A then | 14:56 |
| devkulkarni1 | I will send a note to tc members accordingly.. will cc zhurong on it as next ptl | 14:57 |
| devkulkarni1 | lets quickly discuss about boston summit | 14:57 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: if you can find out if you can attend boston summit in next couple of days, that would be good | 14:58 |
| zhurong | we can discuss in the chanel | 14:58 |
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| devkulkarni1 | yes, lets continue the discussion in the channel | 14:58 |
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| devkulkarni1 | caowei, vijendar: any other thoughts today? | 14:58 |
| vijendar | nothing from me | 14:58 |
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| devkulkarni1 | ok | 14:59 |
| caowei | me too | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni1 | alright | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni1 | thanks for joining today zhurong, caowei, vijendar | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni1 | good discussion today | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni1 | see you next week | 14:59 |
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| zhurong | see you | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni1 | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 14:59:53 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-01-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-01-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-01-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi Swami | 15:00 |
| haleyb | I got in late last night so might be a little slow today | 15:01 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 1 15:01:55 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
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| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:02 |
| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
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| haleyb | Swami: did you have any announcements? Any DVR things that were discussed at the PTG? | 15:03 |
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| Swami | haleyb: hi welcome back | 15:03 |
| Swami | yes just wanted to go over the PTG discussions that we had on DVR | 15:03 |
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| haleyb | thanks, the floor is yours | 15:04 |
| Swami | PTG DVR discussions | 15:04 |
| Swami | We had four topics that we discussed regarding the DVR. | 15:04 |
| Swami | 1. Handling allowed_address_pairs with DVR. | 15:04 |
| Swami | 2. Adding an config option to allow the Floatingips to be configured in the network node. This is to force all the North-South traffic to go through the centralized node. | 15:05 |
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| Swami | 2.(a). Proactively check the agent health before you schedule a floatingip to a compute node, and if the agent is not running (dead) then move the floatingip to the centralized node. | 15:06 |
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| Swami | 3. Distributed SNAT. We discussed the issues about the inability to share the SNAT namespace between the tenants and we all agreed that if the customer is willing to burn the public ip addresses, then SNAT can be distributed. Still needs investigation if we need a config option or can we run 'dvr_snat' agent on all nodes. | 15:08 |
| Swami | 4. There was another suggestion about implementing the floatingip and SNAT using the openflow rules and getting rid of the namespaces that we use today. This one was suggested by 'ajo'. He trying out a prototype and once it is working, he might push in a spec or an RFE. | 15:09 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1583694 - Allowed address pair RFE | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:10 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667877 - RFE for the config option on Floatingip to be centralized or circumstantial. | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1667877 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Configuring Floatingips in Network Node or in the Compute Node based on Config option." [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:11 |
| haleyb | I could see #4 working now that OVS has conntrack, since that was probably one of the reasons we never looked at it before | 15:11 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes. | 15:11 |
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| haleyb | I am curious about #2 though | 15:12 |
| Swami | ajo will be working on item '4' but he mentioned that he might need some help from ous. | 15:12 |
| haleyb | why is having floating IP on the NN a good thing? that's typically the case you want to go direct | 15:13 |
| Swami | haleyb: #2 megulle might help us in item #2 to come up with an function that can check the agent state or status. | 15:13 |
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| Swami | haleyb: kevin mentioned that there are some customers who are looking for using the centralized node for Floatingip and that is the only reason. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | if agent is broken i can see it, but if things are in a half-configured state and it dies, will that even work? | 15:14 |
| Swami | haleyb: we need to investigate. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | Swami: they can always disable DVR | 15:14 |
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| Swami | haleyb: by disabling DVR they might not get East-West only. | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: The reason may be if someone wants just East-West and not North-South this would help. | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: I agree with your point if all the issues related to IPv6 is solved for the compute node FIP namespace, then they don't need it to be centralized. | 15:16 |
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| haleyb | that is going to severly limit bandwidth as we know too well, I guess I always like to see the reasoning behind the "why" there | 15:16 |
| Swami | haleyb: Yes that was also discussed and it was said that it is upto the customers to choose which way they wanted and providing an option would be nice. | 15:17 |
| haleyb | i'm curious if that's "deployers" or "customers" - deployers should be able to, customers shouldn't need to imo | 15:19 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes I meant the deployers not the tenants. | 15:20 |
| haleyb | ok, that makes me feel better :) | 15:20 |
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| haleyb | Swami: regarding address pairs, what was the decision? or maybe it's in the bug | 15:22 |
| Swami | here is the summary that kevin sent out that captures all the four items. | 15:22 |
| Swami | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/113032.html | 15:22 |
| Swami | haleyb: for address pairs kevin is ok with the current proposal so I have resubmitted those two patches. | 15:23 |
| haleyb | Ah, ok, I have not read all email this morning | 15:23 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437970/ | 15:24 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437986/ | 15:24 |
| Swami | I also had discussion with the Octavia folks on these patches and requested them to test it with their use cases. | 15:24 |
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| Swami | haleyb: that's all I had on the PTG update with respect to DVR. | 15:26 |
| Swami | haleyb: You missed our Neutron Team Photo | 15:26 |
| haleyb | maybe they can photoshop me in :) | 15:26 |
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| Swami | #link https://souminathan.smugmug.com/OpenStack-Neutron-PTG-Atlanta-2017/i-HBdQdZ7/A | 15:27 |
| Swami | haleyb: will do | 15:27 |
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| Swami | That's all I had on the PTG update. | 15:28 |
| haleyb | Well, it sounds like you were productive, sorry i had to miss it | 15:28 |
| haleyb | but the beach was nice too :) | 15:28 |
| Swami | haleyb: no problem | 15:29 |
| Swami | haleyb: May be you should send some good pictures. | 15:29 |
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| Swami | haleyb: Was the weather good in Mexico. | 15:29 |
| haleyb | I will get some together, weather was 85 every day, almost perfect weather, only rained a few hours | 15:30 |
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| Swami | haleyb: that is great | 15:30 |
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| haleyb | work stinks, i need to retire :) | 15:31 |
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| haleyb | moving on though... | 15:31 |
| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:31 |
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| haleyb | I just see the RFE is new | 15:32 |
| Swami_ | Sorry got disconnected again | 15:32 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: which RFE you are talking about | 15:32 |
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| haleyb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667877 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1667877 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Configuring Floatingips in Network Node or in the Compute Node based on Config option." [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:32 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: yes I created it after the PTF meeting. | 15:32 |
| Swami_ | s/PTF/PTG | 15:33 |
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| haleyb | any other bugs to discuss? i don't know what needs reviewing just by looking | 15:34 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: Yes there are no new bugs this week. | 15:35 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: We might have to push the Fast path exit patches. | 15:36 |
| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283757/ | 15:36 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355062/ | 15:36 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: I forgot to mention about the DVR multinode job in gate. | 15:37 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: In PTG we had a discussion and they were planning to get rid of the DVR multinode job and instead have the DVR+HA job in place which is basically multinode with 3 nodes. (2 ctlr and 1 compute) | 15:37 |
| haleyb | i need to update the change, looks like failure rate is below 10% right now | 15:38 |
| haleyb | oh, i don't think that change merged yet | 15:38 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: Yes a decision was made to focus and try to merge those patches. | 15:38 |
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| haleyb | i guess i need to go to more of these meetings | 15:39 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: It is becoming more productive | 15:40 |
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| haleyb | I will try and find the DVR+HA reviews, they're on my review page | 15:41 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: thanks | 15:41 |
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| Swami_ | that's all I have for today's discussion. | 15:41 |
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| haleyb | I guess we can skip talking about gate as it seems ok, and go right to open discussion | 15:42 |
| haleyb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:42 |
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| haleyb | any other topics to discuss? | 15:43 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: I heard that john schwarz will not be working on openstack since his directions have changed. | 15:43 |
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| haleyb | yes, i heard that as well, do not think he is at red hat any more | 15:44 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: I am not sure if you knew this before, but I had a chat with Anil venkata at the PTG summit. | 15:44 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: yes that's what I heard. | 15:44 |
| haleyb | So is anil the main HA contact now? | 15:45 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: yes | 15:45 |
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| haleyb | i do not see him here at the moment | 15:46 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: yes I don't see him. | 15:47 |
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| haleyb | i don't have anything else, so going once... | 15:48 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 15:49:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2017/neutron_dvr.2017-03-01-15.01.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2017/neutron_dvr.2017-03-01-15.01.txt | 15:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2017/neutron_dvr.2017-03-01-15.01.log.html | 15:49 |
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| haleyb | Swami_: bye, i'll catch-up on those reviews | 15:49 |
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| Swami_ | bye | 15:49 |
| Swami_ | haleyb:sure | 15:49 |
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| rkukura | hi ML2’ers! | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev_ | Hello | 16:00 |
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| dasanind | Hi | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | Anyone in addition to Sukhdev and dasanind here for ML2? | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : I did not prepare agenda this morning | 16:02 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev_: I did an initial agenda for today two weeks ago | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev_ | oh - cool | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | ok, lets get started - maybe not too much needed since several of us met on Friday in Atlanta | 16:04 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 1 16:04:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:04 |
| rkukura | Hi everyone! | 16:04 |
| dasanind | Hi | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_March_1.2C_2017 | 16:05 |
| rkukura | anyone want to add/remove anything? | 16:05 |
| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | I don’t have any announcements - anyone else? | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | #topic PTG post mortem | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | Did everyone enjoy the PTG last week in Atlanta? | 16:07 |
| dasanind | yes :) | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | Great, so did I | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | I think we had some productive ML2-related discussions | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev_ | me too | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev_ | it was fun | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev_ | yes - I think ML2 sessions were great | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev_ | it is alway good to meet f2f | 16:09 |
| dasanind | yeah the discussions were very helpful | 16:09 |
| rkukura | ML2-related topics I recall being discussed include the live migration work, enforcing extension semantics, SR-IOV and gluon | 16:09 |
| rkukura | I’m sure I’m missing some | 16:10 |
| rkukura | Lets at least summarize next steps on these (and any I missed) | 16:10 |
| rkukura | we’ll cover live migration next on the agenda | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : I think your list is accurate | 16:11 |
| rkukura | I plan to draft a RFE for extension semantic enforcement this week - hopefully we’ll be able to discuss it here next week | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev_ | that would be fantastic | 16:12 |
| dasanind | For live migration I am almost done with the apis | 16:13 |
| rkukura | I’m not sure what all was discussed regarding SR-IOV - can anyone summarize that? | 16:13 |
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| dasanind | next step is to do the integration with the ml2 | 16:13 |
| rkukura | dasanind: thanks | 16:14 |
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| rkukura | Anyone know next steps regaring SR-IOV? Anything beyond adding/enhancing mechanism drivers? | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : regarding SR-IOV, there is an RFE for extensions for SR-IOV driver | 16:15 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev_: thanks - lets track that in next weeks agenda - do you have a link handy? | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | I recall some discussion of QinQ - was this for SR-IOV? | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | we’ll include the link in next week’s agenda | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev_ | #link - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1662650 | 16:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662650 in neutron "[RFE] Advance configuration of SR-IOV ports- api extension" [Wishlist,New] | 16:19 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev_: thanks! | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev_ | yes QinQ discussion was for SR-IOV related | 16:20 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev_: Is it covered by this RFE, or separate? | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev_ | I do not believe that is covered by RFE | 16:20 |
| rkukura | I do see mentions of “outer vlan tag” | 16:21 |
| dasanind | rkukura: what is QinQ? | 16:21 |
| rkukura | but I think there was a separate discussion | 16:21 |
| rkukura | dasanind: Its vlans-within-vlans | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev_ | I thought that was to be addressed by type driver | 16:22 |
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| dasanind | rkukura: thanks | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev_ | I mean new type driver to deal with QinQ | 16:22 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev_: right, the discussion I caught the end of seemed to be about allocating tags for QinQ, which might require type driver support | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev_ | correct | 16:23 |
| rkukura | OK, lets see if we can find an RFE for this, and include it in next week’s agenda as well | 16:23 |
| rkukura | So, for Gluon, my understanding is that there will be an (or is) an RFE for a “network type” attribute that would select which of multiple core plugins would handle networks of each type | 16:24 |
| rkukura | So ML2 could handle traditional networks, and other core plugins could handle specialized networks | 16:25 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: looks like Sukhdev_ left - are you still here? | 16:26 |
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| dasanind | rkukura: I missed this discussion so I do not have any information about this :( | 16:27 |
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| rkukura | We might have lost Sukhdev, who I was hoping could provide some details on this | 16:27 |
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| rkukura | OK, lets cover that next week as well | 16:28 |
| dasanind | ok | 16:28 |
| rkukura | Anything else on the PTG last week? | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev_ | sorry - did not realize I was disconnected | 16:29 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev_: can you summarize where things stand on RFEs related to Gluon? | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev_ | Actually I was typing those and did not realize I was disconnected :-):-) | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev_ | I filed an RFE for network type - it is out there and we used it for the discussion at PTG | 16:31 |
| rkukura | OK, lets link this into next week’s agenda as well | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev_ | and there is a development effort going on for the plugin - | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev_ | Gluon plugin in being build on top of ML2 plugin - | 16:32 |
| rkukura | My understanding is that this network type would be used to dispatch to one of several core plugins | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev_ | yes - your understanding is correct rkukura | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | So would gluon re-use certain aspects of ML2 while ML2 itself would handle traditional networks? | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev_ | the initial use case is to have a service chain when more than one SDN controllers are involved - each orchestrating different service | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev_ | yes - that is correct | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev_ | the idea is to be able to hybrid deployments - | 16:35 |
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| Sukhdev_ | traditional networks, PnP networks and service chained networks - all orchestrated by multiple SDN controllers, along with Neutron | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev_ | in other words - mother of all :-):-) | 16:36 |
| rkukura | challenge is to coordinate everything | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev_ | right - there is work flow being designed as well - | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev_ | all driven by an auto-generated API | 16:37 |
| rkukura | generated from what? | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev_ | the thing is very involved - | 16:37 |
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| Sukhdev_ | If I tell you all, then I will have to kill you :-):-) | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev_ | just kidding :-) | 16:37 |
| dasanind | :) | 16:38 |
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| Sukhdev_ | there is a proton service plugin is being designed which works with Yang models - | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev_ | these yang models auto-generate APIs - | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev_ | which are then fed to Gluon Plugin | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev_ | some of these APIs are for new type of network | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev_ | and some of the APIs will be traditional neutron APIs | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev_ | hence, the Gluon Plugin needs to deal with both ML2 and new network type use cases | 16:39 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev_: I see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon - is this now an official OpenStack project, big tent, stadium, or what? | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev_ | We only discussed the Gluon Plugin part at PTG | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev_ | most of the other part is all new and will be covered under a new service plugin | 16:41 |
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| rkukura | looks like we lost Sukhdev/Sukhdev_ again | 16:42 |
| rkukura | OK, we should move on with the agenda | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | anything else on the PTG? | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | he’s back | 16:44 |
| rkukura | ok, I’d like to wrap up this part of the agenda - anything else on Gluon and/or the PTG for today? | 16:44 |
| dasanind | nothing else from my side | 16:45 |
| rkukura | ok | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev_ | nothing from me - | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev_ | I might get disconnected again - | 16:45 |
| dasanind | Sukhdev_: Gluon is a separate plugin or is it in neutron tree | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev_ | dasanind : separate plugin in its own repo | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev_ | dasanind : once all done, will be brought under neutron tent | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev_ | stadium | 16:46 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev_: Is gluon official big tent project, part of neutron stadium, or what? | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev_ | not yet | 16:47 |
| rkukura | not official yet? | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev_ | all experimental stuff at this point | 16:47 |
| rkukura | most projects are | 16:47 |
| dasanind | is there a RFE for this? | 16:47 |
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| Sukhdev_ | dasanind : no RFE for Gluon | 16:48 |
| dasanind | ok | 16:48 |
| rkukura | We already touched on the live migration port binding support, and on RFEs, so we can move to open discussion and wrap up | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev_ | it will be done in multiple pieces | 16:48 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:48 |
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| dasanind | Need reviews on the api's for live migration https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414251 | 16:49 |
| rkukura | dasanind: Thanks for the reminder | 16:50 |
| rkukura | anything else? | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev_ | I reviewed the older version - will look at the updated one | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev_ | nothing from me | 16:51 |
| dasanind | nothing else from me | 16:51 |
| rkukura | ok, see you here next week | 16:51 |
| dasanind | thank you rkukura and Sukhdev_ | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev_ | thanks rkukura | 16:51 |
| rkukura | thanks | 16:51 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 16:51:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-03-01-16.04.html | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-03-01-16.04.txt | 16:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-03-01-16.04.log.html | 16:51 |
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| timsim | #startmeeting designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 1 17:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:00 |
| timsim | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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| sonuk | o/ | 17:00 |
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| * timsim tries to think of who to ping besides Kiall | 17:01 | |
| timsim | kiall isn't even in here :P | 17:01 |
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| timsim | #topic Announcements | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | yeah, his bouncer was on one of the servers in the pictures I sent you :P | 17:01 |
| timsim | Anyone want to announce anything? | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | all hail timsim ? | 17:01 |
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| timsim | Obviously | 17:02 |
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| timsim | alright | 17:02 |
| timsim | #topic Bug Triage | 17:02 |
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| timsim | mugsie: I don't even know what this is anymore https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1627941 | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627941 in Designate "Zone transfer accept is forbidden for the non admin users " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Graham Hayes (grahamhayes) | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | I can't repro | 17:03 |
| mugsie | I'll close it | 17:03 |
| timsim | k | 17:03 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1668290 | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1668290 in Designate "First call to designate-worker raise error" [Undecided,New] | 17:03 |
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| timsim | This is interesting, because I've seen the error msg before, but it doesn't actually break anything. | 17:03 |
| mugsie | weird | 17:04 |
| timsim | I'll assign it to myself and hopefully look into it before next week. I'm pretty sure it even happens in the gates. | 17:04 |
| mugsie | OK, cool | 17:04 |
| timsim | #topic Stable Backport Triage | 17:04 |
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| timsim | crap. don't have it | 17:04 |
| mugsie | it just looks like we need to update the state machine | 17:04 |
| mugsie | I'll get it | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/600971/ | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | its 90% docs | 17:05 |
| timsim | Yeah I don't see anything worth bp'ing there | 17:06 |
| mugsie | nope | 17:06 |
| timsim | alrighty | 17:07 |
| timsim | #topic Open Discussion | 17:07 |
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| timsim | Anyone have anything? | 17:07 |
| mugsie | dont think so | 17:07 |
| timsim | I'm working on docs as much as possible | 17:07 |
| timsim | If anyone wants to help, let me know. | 17:07 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:07 |
| mugsie | apart from the next few days | 17:08 |
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| sonuk | timsim: what are the features we planning to add in designate ui this cycle? | 17:08 |
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| mugsie | sonuk: I dont think we have a list | 17:09 |
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| timsim | yeah | 17:09 |
| mugsie | there is 2 bps | 17:09 |
| mugsie | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate-dashboard | 17:09 |
| mugsie | and a suggestion for more | 17:09 |
| timsim | If people come and implement it, we'll be thrilled, but I don't think mugsie or myself are going to be implementing anything. | 17:09 |
| * timsim doesn't have much javascript chops | 17:09 | |
| timsim | many chops? idk | 17:09 |
| * mugsie has not written JS in anger in years | 17:10 | |
| timsim | Oh I have a thing. | 17:10 |
| mugsie | and I have no idea about anguler at all | 17:10 |
| mugsie | sonuk: you have anything you want included? | 17:10 |
| timsim | yeah was there something you were looking for sonuk ? | 17:10 |
| sonuk | timsim: can i get the list of gaps in designate ui because people in my company is interested to help in designate ui | 17:11 |
| timsim | Basically everything in the v2 API except basic zones/recordsets operations, right mugsie? | 17:11 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:11 |
| mugsie | oh, floating IPs we have as well | 17:11 |
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| timsim | So zone import/export, admin stuff (tlds, blacklists, tsigkeys, quotas), zone transfers between accounts | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | triggering XFRs manually | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | abandoning zones (not sure if that should ever be a button though) | 17:13 |
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| timsim | Yeah, only for admins, maybe. | 17:13 |
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| sonuk | yeah that can be added in designate ui. | 17:15 |
| timsim | If you all want to help with that, it would be awesome. | 17:15 |
| timsim | How are your docs coming along sonuk? | 17:15 |
| sonuk | timsim: I found some of my docs duplicate of recently pushed docs so i dint pushed those docs. but I am preparing HA docs for designate | 17:17 |
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| timsim | Cool! We'd love to have them. | 17:17 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:17 |
| sonuk | :) | 17:18 |
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| timsim | Speaking of docs, we're thinking about adding asettle (The docs PTL) as core on the designate repo, so that we can get a professional's perspective, and expedite the review/improvement of our docs, which is going to be an ongoing effort this cycle. We talked about this at the PTG. | 17:19 |
| asettle | o/ hallo | 17:19 |
| asettle | I promise I won't merge anything unrelated. | 17:19 |
| mugsie | yeah, she wont be doing code reviews, but will have the ablility to merge docs changes | 17:19 |
| mugsie | :D | 17:19 |
| asettle | All patches would have to have a DNS person reviewed before I press the green button | 17:19 |
| mugsie | :100: | 17:20 |
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| asettle | But just a casual suggestion to, as timsim say, to expedite docs patches. | 17:20 |
| timsim | So we'll probably give that some more thought and maybe get that in motion soon | 17:20 |
| timsim | Holy crap mugsie dropped an emoji in irc | 17:21 |
| asettle | mugsie: are you on slack bro? | 17:21 |
| asettle | timsim: no problem. If it is not suitable/within the guidelines, it is obviously no drama. | 17:21 |
| mugsie | heh - just the internal slack | 17:21 |
| asettle | Will always review :) | 17:21 |
| timsim | 🔥 🔥 🔥 | 17:21 |
| asettle | Woah emojisssss | 17:21 |
| * mugsie uses most slacks via IRC :P | 17:21 | |
| ianychoi | I just want to check that mugsie is still I18n cross project liaison for Designate - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#I18n ? | 17:22 |
| ianychoi | (for Pike cycle at least) | 17:22 |
| mugsie | unless timsim want me gone, I am good to continue | 17:22 |
| mugsie | wants* | 17:22 |
| timsim | Nah, please continue. | 17:22 |
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| mugsie | ianychoi: yes I am :D | 17:22 |
| ianychoi | Haha - thanks a lot mugsie and timsim ! | 17:22 |
| mugsie | np | 17:23 |
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| timsim | Thank you! | 17:23 |
| asettle | :) | 17:23 |
| timsim | Alright, unless anyone has anything else, gonna go head and wrap this up. | 17:23 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:23 |
| timsim | Going once... | 17:24 |
| timsim | twice... | 17:24 |
| ianychoi | nothing from me :) Just wanted to drop by here | 17:24 |
| timsim | If anyone has anything they need, you can pop into #openstack-dns :) | 17:24 |
| timsim | #endmeeting | 17:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 17:24:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-01-17.00.html | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-01-17.00.txt | 17:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-01-17.00.log.html | 17:24 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:24 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:24 |
| sonuk | o/ | 17:24 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 1 20:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:00 |
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| diltram | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi folks | 20:00 |
| nmagnezi | o/ | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| johnsom | The first OpenStack PTG was last week | 20:01 |
| johnsom | We had pretty good representation for Octavia with five regular team members present | 20:02 |
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| xgerman | +1 | 20:02 |
| johnsom | I tried to keep notes on the etherpad as I attended meetings or we discussed items from the etherpad | 20:03 |
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| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ptg-pike | 20:03 |
| johnsom | I might clean that up a bit if I get time later today. | 20:03 |
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| johnsom | Highlights... | 20:03 |
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| johnsom | We met with barbican and it seems like the cascading ACLs can happen. I opened a bug to track it | 20:04 |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/+bug/1666963 | 20:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1666963 in Barbican "Enable cascading ACLs based on container ID" [Undecided,New] | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Lots of folks are interested in using octavia in container environments | 20:04 |
| johnsom | We also had a lot of interest in amphora in containers | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | We had a good discussion about the state of testing in octavia and a path forward there | 20:05 |
| johnsom | We also highlighted some much needed documentation and put names to those | 20:06 |
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| johnsom | I want to discuss the OpenStack client part later in the agenda so I will wait on that. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | Any questions about the PTG or the notes? | 20:06 |
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| nmagnezi | not at the moment | 20:07 |
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| nmagnezi | maybe after your cleanup :) | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Hahaha, yeah, it got messy | 20:07 |
| nmagnezi | indeed :D | 20:07 |
| johnsom | So many discussions going on.... | 20:07 |
| nmagnezi | yeah.. sorry i couldn't be there | 20:07 |
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| m-greene | py35 is a pike goal, or queens? | 20:08 |
| diltram | pike | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Other announcements, I have put in a request for new git repositories: octavia-dashboard (for renaming and migrating the dashboard), python-octaviaclient (OSC plugin), and octavia-tempest-plugin (tempest plugin) | 20:08 |
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| m-greene | I didn’t see that in the notes, though we discussed | 20:08 |
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| johnsom | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/index.html | 20:09 |
| diltram | johnsom: how about the namespace driver | 20:09 |
| diltram | ? | 20:09 |
| m-greene | thx | 20:09 |
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| johnsom | I have also put in to migrate octavia over to cycles-with-milestones release cycles. This will make i18n, packaging, and some of our end of cycle steps easier. | 20:10 |
| johnsom | diltram Good point, I will need to do that as well | 20:10 |
| diltram | and how about this dashboard? | 20:11 |
| * johnsom thinks he really should clean up the notes.... | 20:11 | |
| diltram | we need to move the code on our own? | 20:11 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, if I may expand on diltram's first question: what about 3rd party drivers support in general? | 20:11 |
| johnsom | diltram Yes, I will take care of that | 20:11 |
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| diltram | nmagnezi: we gonna support drivers | 20:12 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi We did talk about that. It is an open rfe/bug for the lbaas-merge work. We just need to get the base API merged before that task can start. | 20:12 |
| diltram | probably I will be reponsible for delivering those drivers api | 20:12 |
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| nmagnezi | got it. thanks :) | 20:13 |
| johnsom | One item that did come out of the PTG for the drivers is we will be adding an endpoint to the health manager to allow the drivers to submit status and stats. This should allow for good scalability | 20:13 |
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| johnsom | Ok, let's move on | 20:15 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:15 |
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| johnsom | I think we have cleared up the two-three gate issues that were bugging us. | 20:15 |
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| johnsom | It sounds like the qa folks are starting to work on the devstack issue again, so maybe we can pull out that work around soon. | 20:16 |
| johnsom | I am also continuing to work on our API-REF docs | 20:16 |
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| johnsom | Any other notable progress? | 20:17 |
| nmagnezi | is that the time to mention new bugs? | 20:17 |
| johnsom | Sure, if there are bugs you would like to bring attention to, please do | 20:17 |
| nmagnezi | yup | 20:18 |
| nmagnezi | just one bug i have found today | 20:18 |
| nmagnezi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1669019 | 20:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1669019 in octavia "The gates are not testing the latest amphora-agent code" [Undecided,New] | 20:18 |
| nmagnezi | i basically gave as many details as a could. and IMHO it is important to resolve this | 20:18 |
| johnsom | I saw that this morning, but haven't yet looked deeper into it | 20:18 |
| nmagnezi | if we can agree on "how" I can submit the patch | 20:19 |
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| nmagnezi | in short, the agent that is being run inside the amp instance does not include the patch that should be tested | 20:19 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi We did get switched over to Python3.5 in the amphora due to the DIB changes in Ocata | 20:19 |
| nmagnezi | ah. ok so that is expected. just brought it up because i wasn't sure | 20:20 |
| nmagnezi | so good to know. | 20:20 |
| diltram | can we support one more parameter to decide how we're gonna install amphora-agent code? | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Yeah, we were not expecting it, but it happened, so we adapted. You will see we have a number of py3x gates now too (more needed actually). Pike has a goal for full py3x testing and support. | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, devstack is going to use python3 as well? (when it is starting the openstack services) | 20:22 |
| johnsom | We do override the amphora-agent install to pickup the checked out version. It's a bit strange to follow. The element says master, but in reality for the devstack, we override it to the current patch | 20:22 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi yes, there is the USE_PYTHON3=True setting for localrc. But note, if you set this you cannot just un-set it and have devstack work with python2.7 again | 20:23 |
| johnsom | It is not clean | 20:23 |
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| nmagnezi | johnsom, noted. thank god for snapshots :) | 20:24 |
| johnsom | +1 to that | 20:24 |
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| johnsom | I will dig a bit deeper on that bug after meeting. | 20:24 |
| nmagnezi | great | 20:24 |
| nmagnezi | thank you | 20:24 |
| johnsom | Any other progress to discuss or bugs to highlight? | 20:25 |
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| johnsom | #topic Octavia team mascot | 20:25 |
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| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-mascot | 20:26 |
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| johnsom | Well, we got a little "input" from our designate friends..... | 20:26 |
| * nmagnezi reads | 20:26 | |
| johnsom | I am thinking we leave this open for ideas for another week, then next week I will ask for votes | 20:27 |
| diltram | +1 | 20:27 |
| johnsom | I will see if I can come up with a ranked voting thing that isn't over complicated. Otherwise it will be +1s on the etherpad | 20:28 |
| johnsom | #topic OpenStack Client (OSC) commands for octavia | 20:29 |
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| johnsom | At the PTG I spent some time in OSC room discussing our client need for Pike | 20:30 |
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| johnsom | Dean Troyer was very helpful and supportive | 20:30 |
| johnsom | It was agreed that we must put our commands in a OSC plugin repo | 20:31 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | which I don't like or agree with. But he's the big boss | 20:31 |
| johnsom | I think ankur-gupta-f4 was thinking we could do as neutron did and put them in tree, but that sounded like a no-go from the room | 20:31 |
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| johnsom | I kind of like having it under our control | 20:32 |
| xgerman | yeah, having our own repo shields us from being accidentially deleted | 20:32 |
| sindhu | +1 | 20:32 |
| johnsom | +1 | 20:32 |
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| * johnsom thinks "security groups" | 20:32 | |
| johnsom | We also talked about the new "terminology" that is being used for OSC | 20:33 |
| m-greene | do we have an octavia namespace in github to at least create a fork from the OSC repo? | 20:33 |
| johnsom | The command layout folks liked in the room (myself included) are: | 20:34 |
| nmagnezi | this is actually the first time i hear about the octavia client. I'm not sure I'm following on the disagreement ankur-gupta-f4 had with Dean | 20:34 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | question then becomes do you want to have our python-octaviaclient just contain OSC plugin commands or should we also bring up a pure octavia client. So users can run 'octavia * create' and 'openstack * create' | 20:34 |
| johnsom | m-greene I have put in to create our OSC plugin repo. It will not be a fork however, just a plugin. | 20:34 |
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| ankur-gupta-f4 | i.e. something like this https://github.com/openstack/python-neutronclient/tree/master/neutronclient/osc | 20:35 |
| m-greene | got it. I was thinking that we’ve had this problem too, and have had to either restore from someone’s fork, or contact github and ask them to “undelete” (which sometimes works) | 20:35 |
| johnsom | ankur-gupta-f4 For Pike I am mostly interested in just the OSC plugin. I guess we could consider a native client in the future, but not sure that is the direction OpenStack is going. | 20:35 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | okay sounds good and achievable for Pike | 20:36 |
| johnsom | Excellent | 20:36 |
| johnsom | Anyway, the commands we discussed and I would like the team's feedback on: | 20:36 |
| johnsom | "openstack loadbalancer create ..." | 20:37 |
| johnsom | "openstack loadbalancer listener create ..." | 20:37 |
| johnsom | "openstack loadbalancer pool create ..." | 20:37 |
| johnsom | It has tab completion, so that at least speeds it up | 20:38 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | +1 | 20:38 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | we would own the loadbalancer namespace within OSC | 20:38 |
| johnsom | basically our stuff would live under the "loadbalancer" namespace | 20:38 |
| johnsom | Yep | 20:38 |
| ndahiwade | +1 | 20:38 |
| nmagnezi | are the old commands (lbaas-loadbalancer-create for example) going to be deprecated in Pike? | 20:38 |
| rm_work | those don't exist in OSC | 20:38 |
| rm_work | and the neutronclient is ALREADY deprecated, right? | 20:39 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:39 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | yea | 20:39 |
| diltram | yes | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Yes, as soon as we have a replacement available we can mark the old commands deprecated (though neutron kind of already did that to us). | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Any other thoughts/comments on that? | 20:40 |
| rm_work | I wish we could alias "lb" namespace too | 20:41 |
| rm_work | but i guess if tabcomplete ALWAYS works? | 20:41 |
| rm_work | i assume it's only if it installs the bash-completion stuff correctly (and you are using bash?) | 20:41 |
| johnsom | Yeah, the alias is an interesting question. I'm not sure about that. Though "lb" might be confusing for the neutron lbaas v1 hold outs | 20:42 |
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| johnsom | Just to be clear, there will not be support for LBaaS v1 API in the OSC | 20:42 |
| johnsom | rm_work you can run "openstack" and get an interactive environment as an option... | 20:43 |
| rm_work | ah, true | 20:43 |
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| johnsom | Ok, one last item on my agenda and the open discussion | 20:43 |
| johnsom | #topic Proposed Health Manager endpoint for provider health/stats reporting | 20:44 |
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| johnsom | At the PTG we discussed adding another endpoint to the health manager processes so that the drivers can post status/stats updates. | 20:44 |
| johnsom | This would be similar to how the amps report in their health heartbeats. | 20:45 |
| johnsom | I am thinking something simple like another UDP message format, similar signing. | 20:45 |
| johnsom | Any comments on that? | 20:46 |
| xgerman | can we see a spec? | 20:46 |
| johnsom | Are there any other vendor driver folks here? | 20:46 |
| rm_work | is that something the vendors are going to want to deal with? | 20:46 |
| johnsom | Yeah, it would need a spec. Plus I want to write up a "how to write a driver" doc | 20:46 |
| xgerman | rm_work yes | 20:46 |
| rm_work | I mean UDP | 20:46 |
| xgerman | they asked for a similar functionality to neutron agent-list which tell you the status of agents | 20:46 |
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| rm_work | ah, yeah ok | 20:47 |
| johnsom | rm_work Well, currently they are reaching into the neutron DB to post this. I want a scalable way for them to do it that doesn't mean reaching into the DB | 20:47 |
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| xgerman | ah, ok, got confused… the one I mentioned was <the other> health | 20:47 |
| rm_work | i just wonder if they'd be more happy about something like just another REST call | 20:48 |
| johnsom | If we just expose a callback in the API process for the drivers, it is limited to the number of API processes deployed, which I would expect would be a smaller number than the HM would be | 20:48 |
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| rm_work | since they wouldn't need it to deal with failover, the timing would be less of an issue, and it might also be batched | 20:48 |
| johnsom | We could do a full REST | 20:48 |
| xgerman | most installations I know scale them lineary | 20:48 |
| johnsom | Might be a hammer for a fly though | 20:48 |
| rm_work | well, not like we've been accused of that before :P | 20:48 |
| rm_work | I'd just like to hear from some vendors first, before we go and implement something | 20:49 |
| johnsom | Yep, thus the agenda item here.... | 20:49 |
| diltram | plus rm_work m-greene told us that they're really interested in using our internal | 20:49 |
| diltram | internals* | 20:49 |
| diltram | not just plain using of drivers api | 20:49 |
| rm_work | k, i just don't see a lot of vendors at our meetings :P | 20:50 |
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| rm_work | might be a good thing for the ML | 20:50 |
| johnsom | Yeah, sometimes people lurk. I figured this is a good start | 20:50 |
| diltram | yeah, in my opinion | 20:50 |
| diltram | we can start with supporting one really interested vendor | 20:51 |
| m-greene | right.. we need to evaluate how much of the octavia guts we can leverage to not reinvent the wheel. | 20:51 |
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| diltram | I prefer to help someone who is interested in this help that help all of completely not interested in it people | 20:52 |
| rm_work | o/ kk | 20:52 |
| diltram | and companies | 20:52 |
| m-greene | probably health, but not housekeeping.. hence a way to post status/health to allow an operator to self-diagnose | 20:52 |
| johnsom | Ok, at least the topic was brought up. Next steps would be ML or a spec for people to comment on | 20:52 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:52 |
| johnsom | Anyone volunteering to start a spec? | 20:53 |
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| * johnsom thinks it can't hurt to ask..... | 20:53 | |
| m-greene | i don’t know enough, plus hoping to join in on flavors and possibly gui | 20:53 |
| johnsom | Don't trip stepping backward.... Grin | 20:53 |
| johnsom | Ok, I will get to it soon-ish | 20:54 |
| johnsom | m-greene those would be great | 20:54 |
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| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:54 |
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| m-greene | Rich and I posted comments on the flavors spec, not sure next steps | 20:54 |
| xgerman | depending on my osa adventures I might be able to help | 20:54 |
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| johnsom | Since we have a few minutes left , any other items? | 20:54 |
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| xgerman | should we talk flavors? | 20:55 |
| johnsom | m-greene Yeah, I'm not sure if the original poster is still able to work on that or not. | 20:55 |
| johnsom | We have five minutes left. Let's comment on the spec and put it on next week's agenda. | 20:55 |
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| xgerman | +1 | 20:55 |
| xgerman | also ACTIVE-ACTIVE | 20:56 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/392485 | 20:56 |
| johnsom | Yeah Act/Act is another good one for next week | 20:56 |
| xgerman | k | 20:56 |
| johnsom | Done, on next weeks agenda | 20:58 |
| m-greene | I am planning/re-planning my team’s work through June. Is GUI or flavors more important to the community? | 20:58 |
| xgerman | GUI always increases adoption | 20:58 |
| xgerman | so I would vote GUI | 20:58 |
| johnsom | Yeah, GUI is the mass market appeal | 20:58 |
| diltram | +1 | 20:58 |
| m-greene | both are “high” value to me, but not sure we’d be able to tackel both technically. | 20:59 |
| m-greene | ok | 20:59 |
| xgerman | well, once the spec is ironed out we can see if somebody else can pick up flavors… | 20:59 |
| johnsom | I would like to see progress on the flavors spec though. We need some level of "flavors" in the API | 21:00 |
| xgerman | +1 | 21:00 |
| johnsom | Ok, we are out of time today. Thanks folks! | 21:00 |
| xgerman | o/ | 21:00 |
| diltram | thx, cu | 21:00 |
| nmagnezi | o/ | 21:00 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 21:00:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-03-01-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-03-01-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-03-01-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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